Talking To One's Past Self

[Fred Steeves]

Hi everybody, a couple of weeks ago when we were up north in Maine, I had the unusual opportunity to interact with about the exact person I used to be. My Uncle Mike the family lawyer flew up also, and somehow we got to talking about world events over breakfast one morning. He's very intelligent you see, especially being a prominent lawyer here locally for the last 40 years, so who is this dumb carpenter 20 years his junior who dares think he might know something better? Mind you I seldom divulge in regular conversation things we talk about here, but if pressed I certainly will.

After disagreeing about the value of vaccines, property taxes, the state of education, war and government, I suddenly heard myself saying something very close to: "And THAT takes us right into 9/11". Oh boy, did I hear all about how I should just go ahead and kill myself if I'm so miserably delusional to believe such drivel, and of course the old you should just leave the country if you think it's so aweful. EXACTLY HOW I USED TO FEEL!!! AMAZING!!!

I never got angry really, even when he wouldn't look at me saying goodbye to him at the airport later the same day. I must have told him easily a half dozen times that I know exactly how he feels because I used to feel the same way, and that it's o.k. if we see the world differently. Nope, nothing doing, the only clear thinking outcome is for me to move to Romania. (How's the beer there Ilie?)LOL.

Anyway, I just wanted to share that little bit of my personal life because I used to cheer when Bill O'Reilly would slam someone and then cut them off saying "if you don't like it, then shut up and get out!" My o my how things have changed. Four years ago, it wouldn't have been Uncle Mike advising me to leave the country, it would have been me! What a trip, and what a mirror.

Cheers,
Fred

[vibrations]

That unstoppable need to share the knowledge you gain seeing the past-you in him. I know, I think a lot of us were there. But you know what. It's changing so fast, I have experiences all the time, people I would never say they would think just a bit like me, they came to the conclusions one by one, little by little but accelerating. And about your Uncle Mike, the best way is to respect the path he choose, the speed of travel and the direction. Maybe he is just not prepared yet to change the way of thinking. When someone builds his world all his life, it has to be tremendous shock throwing away all the values and start from the bottom (for him).
And about Romania. I think you'll be surprised how happy would you feel there, less wealthier but happier. Cheers.

[GlassSteagallfan]

100% Fred! Especially the part about the eye contact after the 'event'. People will fight hard to hang on to their illusions.

To keep things positive, believe that you planted a seed.

Cheers!

PS. Why Romania and not South America?

[Fred Steeves]

100% Fred! Especially the part about the eye contact after the 'event'. People will fight hard to hang on to their illusions.

To keep things positive, believe that you planted a seed.

Cheers!

PS. Why Romania and not South America?

It was a 17 year old kid who planted the seed for me a few years back, so you never know. Very true. Boy did I think how dumb and misguided that kid was at the time. BTW, I had the opportunity to thank him a couple of years later, I may still be into watching The O'Reilly factor otherwise...

As for Romania? It just popped out of my mouth during the conversation. No reasoning what so ever behind that one.:)

Cheers,
Fred

[13th Warrior]

Nope, nothing doing, the only clear thinking outcome is for me to move to Romania. (How's the beer there Ilie?)LOL.

My only advice is if you're a Budlight drinker you'd better stick with American ales...

[Fred Steeves]

Nope, nothing doing, the only clear thinking outcome is for me to move to Romania. (How's the beer there Ilie?)LOL.

My only advice is if you're a Budlight drinker you'd better stick with American ales...

I'll drink whatever Ilie recommends.:behindsofa: In the meantime Bud regular works.

[Loveisall21]

Fred, your story of awakening gives me a hopeful feeling. If someone as dyed in the wool right wing as you used to be can now be here posting on Avalon this world just might have a chance.

By the way it takes alot of courage to talk to people who are so polarized (left or right). It almost always ends like it did for you. One of my frequent prayers are for people who are like you used to be, the really extreme fundamentalist right wingers or left wingers to awaken. I think it speaks volumes to the people around them (freinds and family) to see someone change so dramatically in their views which will in turn hopefully make them question what they have always believed.

Plus it's just darn exciting to see such a metamorphosis.

[Fred Steeves]

If someone as dyed in the wool right wing as you used to be can now be here posting on Avalon this world just might have a chance.


That's one of the many things that gives me assurance as well Loveisall. It's like, if it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone, even you Uncle Mike. I love you man, ya nugget...:nod:

Cheers,
Fred

[LisAlien]

I was chuckling while I read your post because, man o' man can I relate. I used to think people didn't have to be alike to like one another. And although to a certain degree that still holds true, but I gotta say, once you start down that rabbit hole, it's hard to relate to the outsiders again.

I also want to ask you, do you really think you were once like your uncle? I mean, I think I know what you meant where....you were once blind to the deceit too. Right? But I really really wonder if there aren't two sets of people roaming this planet. One set who are just more in tune therefore more disgruntled (and tend to be spiritually awaken). And the other set, more tuned out therefore more content (who tend to be, more religiously driven). Of course that's a very basic overview and I realize there are variations in between and among. But that's fundamentally how I see it.
For instance, very few UFO believers---believe in the official story of 9-11. And vice-versa. Those who DO believe in the fairy tale (OS) version of 9-11 usually tend not to believe in off-world intelligent life.
So I think it's a mindset. A very diametrically different way we're hardwired and inner connected.

I also want to say, you look very very familiar to me. Not sure why that is.

[Loveisall21]

Fred, maybe you've written about it here on Avalon before but I would love to know what the 17 year old kid said to you that planted the seed.

[aranuk]

Why did you open up Fred and say what you do believe in now? I like you watch my words when I am with certain people. Others if I think will be more agreeable I will chance it. If they react strongly, I back off usually. Strangley enough my astrology friends are not the ones I CAN speak to. Spiritual stuff they find acceptable though. Oneness theory they can understand, but there are limits.

Stan

[Fred Steeves]

I also want to ask you, do you really think you were once like your uncle? I mean, I think I know what you meant where....you were once blind to the deceit too. Right? But I really really wonder if there aren't two sets of people roaming this planet. One set who are just more in tune therefore more disgruntled (and tend to be spiritually awaken). And the other set, more tuned out therefore more content (who tend to be, more religiously driven).

That's a very deep section of the old wascly wabbit hole you're opening up there LisAlien. I'm always game to take that leap, and we can if you want to go there. Wanna trade parachutes?:)

[LisAlien]

That's a very deep section of the old wascly wabbit hole you're opening up there LisAlien. I'm always game to take that leap, and we can if you want to go there. Wanna trade parachutes?:)


I never want to crawl out of this hole. Because although it may be dark but it's very enlightening.

Parachute? Fred, I'm looking for a faster way to descend. :p Like one of them-there Deep Underground Military Base monorails that purportedly travels Moc-5!
Because the deeper I go--- the more awake I become. And I started awakening in 1997. So I am more than rested.

[Fred Steeves]

Fred, maybe you've written about it here on Avalon before but I would love to know what the 17 year old kid said to you that planted the seed.

His name is Manny, and him and a younger kid that we used to help look after lived next door. We used to have one or both of them up to our weekend place on the river from time to time, and one Sunday morning Manny just starten asking questions, and saying things he had learned which I thought to be absurd. Questions such as: "Where did humanity REALLY originate?" And stupid things he had learned like "9/11 was an inside job."

I tried to explain to the poor misguided young lad about how we can never know how modern man really started, and that Al Qaida was our true enemy, but he persisted. Damn kids, LOL.

Looking back I think we had a bargain before we came into this incarnation the two of us did. We agreed that he was going to enter the scence just at the point in life where I was ready for one of the many alarm clocks that seemed to go off almost all at once.

Cheers,
Fred

[Fred Steeves]

Why did you open up Fred and say what you do believe in now? I like you watch my words when I am with certain people. Others if I think will be more agreeable I will chance it. If they react strongly, I back off usually. Strangley enough my astrology friends are not the ones I CAN speak to. Spiritual stuff they find acceptable though. Oneness theory they can understand, but there are limits.

Stan

Hi Stan, great question! I'm usually very mild mannered and somewhat shy, (believe it or not) but more often these days things just "happen". I'll just blurt something out, or do something I wouldn't "ordinarily" do. Like when Pinellas county's finest were roughly slapping the cuffs on me a couple of months ago, I found myself blurting out things like "you guys should be ashamed of yourselves".

Same with my uncle, and other times where I simply find meself speaking my truth unabashadly, and meanwhile wondering" where the hell did THAT come from? "It's usually very calm, not like with the cops, but it happens regardless.

I guess I just feel that time is running short, and those who are here to help transcend the great shadow are activating right on schedule. Make sense?

Cheers,
Fred

[Loveisall21]

Kids say the darndest things!

[Lord Sidious]

Fred, maybe you've written about it here on Avalon before but I would love to know what the 17 year old kid said to you that planted the seed.

His name is Manny, and him and a younger kid that we used to help look after lived next door. We used to have one or both of them up to our weekend place on the river from time to time, and one Sunday morning Manny just starten asking questions, and saying things he had learned which I thought to be absurd. Questions such as: "Where did humanity REALLY originate?" And stupid things he had learned like "9/11 was an inside job."

I tried to explain to the poor misguided young lad about how we can never know how modern man really started, and that Al Qaida was our true enemy, but he persisted. Damn kids, LOL.

Looking back I think we had a bargain before we came into this incarnation the two of us did. We agreed that he was going to enter the scence just at the point in life where I was ready for one of the many alarm clocks that seemed to go off almost all at once.

Cheers,
Fred

Or did you attract him to you EXACTLY at the time you needed to?

[Ilie Pandia]

Great story Fred,

Even though I was expecting something else :biggrin:

I was lucky enough to be more like your Manny kid, and I am grateful that my parents were very open to subjects like aliens, alternative science and what is generally called "conspiracy theories" or to be more precise the private corporate interests make the rules and not the governments.

And, if you want good beer your should probably try Germany. You'll find pretty good wine here though, and ţuică (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A2uic%C4%83)

[GlassSteagallfan]

But I really really wonder if there aren't two sets of people roaming this planet. One set who are just more in tune therefore more disgruntled (and tend to be spiritually awaken). And the other set, more tuned out therefore more content (who tend to be, more religiously driven). Of course that's a very basic overview and I realize there are variations in between and among. But that's fundamentally how I see it.

Quoting from "10-11-2011 Infowars Nightly News with guests Alessio Rastani_ Max Keiser", to this effect: As more and more people wake up, and more and more people are being programmed by the corporate drivel - the two sides are beginning to clash.

[aranuk]

Why did you open up Fred and say what you do believe in now? I like you watch my words when I am with certain people. Others if I think will be more agreeable I will chance it. If they react strongly, I back off usually. Strangley enough my astrology friends are not the ones I CAN speak to. Spiritual stuff they find acceptable though. Oneness theory they can understand, but there are limits.

Stan


Hi Stan, great question! I'm usually very mild mannered and somewhat shy, (believe it or not) but more often these days things just "happen". I'll just blurt something out, or do something I wouldn't "ordinarily" do. Like when Pinellas county's finest were roughly slapping the cuffs on me a couple of months ago, I found myself blurting out things like "you guys should be ashamed of yourselves".

Same with my uncle, and other times where I simply find meself speaking my truth unabashadly, and meanwhile wondering" where the hell did THAT come from? "It's usually very calm, not like with the cops, but it happens regardless.

I guess I just feel that time is running short, and those who are here to help transcend the great shadow are activating right on schedule. Make sense?

Cheers,
Fred

Makes lotsa sense Fred, I understand. I grew from age 9 as an athiest after my mum left home with another man, I prayed to God and he didn't send my mum back. No God at all. Simple stuff really. Then Judo at age 11 and meditating and Zen budhist books. Age 16 introduction to politics, communism of course. Marriage 19. Hard work in the building trade in my dads business. Two daughters to look after. Reconsideration of the existence of God and confirmation that it was so. Playing competitive chess for 25 yrs. Reading books on spiritual stuff. Joining freemasonry after having a spiritual experience with my dad asking me to join. Studying freemasonry for many years and studying Anthroposophy (Rudolf Steiners thing) astrology for many years. All that was so natural like breathing. Until I had shingles a year almost to the day. I was loaded with painkilling drugs and wandering aimlessly around the internet and came accross David Icke and instead of reading what he had to say I clicked on a link to Camelot and listening to the videos my mind was blown to pieces. I most likely have not recovered my sensibilities yet but I am still here. Unlike you Fred my friends and family have always thought I was a wee bit off target anyway. If I say anything to almost anyone I know about ET's Ufo's 9-11 they usually shrug and smile at me as they always did. Except strangers. With them I pretend to be "normal." and talk about the weather.

Stan