East China Sea 6.9 quake - undersea reptilian base destroyed

[PathWalker]

In an ExopoliticsTV news (http://youtu.be/a9k0O9_UyCc) interview and a statement dated Nov. 8, 2011, a human representative of the reported Andromeda Council confirmed a communication from a reported commander of the Andromeda Council biosphere spaceship deployed around Earth that a specific reported Draco and Hydra reptilian undersea base on the ocean floor in the East China sea has been destroyed.

In his statement, Tolec, the human Andromeda Council representative stated “The result of the final, crippling sonic energy beam strike the people from Procyon used today destroyed this undersea complex, and created an amazing decompression resulting in a 6.9 quake on the ocean floor. Resulting in the total collapse & destruction of this base.”

The location of the reportedly destroyed Draco & Hydra reptilian undersea base was revealed to this reporter in a Nov. 2, 2011 email from Tolec (reproduced below), with time-stamped maps. The location of the reported reptilian base is almost identical to that of a Nov. 8 - 6.9 undersea quake in the East China Sea reported by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). One observer stated, "I checked the USGS earthquake center against the slide show map of the base location and they are about 200 miles apart."

WATCH INTERVIEW:
a9k0O9_UyCc

6.9 Earthquake in East China Sea on Nov. 8, 2011

The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) in fact reported a 6.9 earthquake in the East China Sea on Tuesday Nov. 8, 2011 at 02:59:06 AM UTC, location 27.291°N, 125.868°E at a depth of 209.5 km (130.2 miles).

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usb0006lpm.php

Location of Nov. 8 East China Sea 6.9 earthquake is identical to Nov. 2 map by Tolec pinpointing location of reptilian base in East China Sea

On Nov. 2, 2011, six days prior to the Nov. 8, 2011 6.9 East China quake, Tolec sent this reporter an email in which he set out the reported location of the reptilian base as being in the East China Sea and attached a map that pinpointed the location of the reptilian base.

The Nov. 2, 2011 maps reportedly showing the location of the reptilian undersea bases together with the Nov. 8, 2011 map of the Nov. 8, 2011 6.9 East China Sea earthquake are set out in the slide show embedded in this article. As stated, the location of the reptilian base is almost identical to (within 200 miles of) that of a Nov. 8, 2011 - 6.9 undersea quake reported by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS).

USGS live internet Seismic Server records energy pulse accompanying 6.9 East China Sea quake as “planet-wide”

The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) live internet Seismic Server recorded the Nov. 8, 2011 6.9 East China Sea quake as “planet-wide”.

Readers can access an 11-page PDF readout of the USGS live internet Seismic Server recording of the planet-wide “pings” of the Nov. 8, 2011 6.9 East China Sea by clicking on the URL below.

[eric charles]

Alfred Webre is another one who is about to be blacklisted , in the same line as David Wilcock and Mr 19.5 Hoagland . All these rediculous claims with no substance to them !

And for Tolec , ive watched a few interviews of this sort in the past month , why doesnt Tolec show himself , why doesnt the suposed Andromeda show itself , its all horsehit , thats why .

thatnks for the post though

[Blueskywalking]

Thanks for the post PathWalker. Been following the Alfred/Tolec "updates" for a while now and I'm truly thrilled!
It all rings true to me.
What's interesting to note with this latest update is that Tolec supplied the coordinates for the undersea base before the attack.

Some people of course will never see the Forest because of all those ridiculous trees...

[Ultima Thule]

Does anyone have links to the map-comparison between 2. nov prediction compared to 8. nov site? 200 mile difference does sound too much difference to me to be considered spot on proof? Here is the link to the 6.9 on 8th Nov: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usb0006lpm.php

[eric charles]

Thanks for the post PathWalker. Been following the Alfred/Tolec "updates" for a while now and I'm truly thrilled!
It all rings true to me.
What's interesting to note with this latest update is that Tolec supplied the coordinates for the undersea base before the attack.

Some people of course will never see the Forest because of all those ridiculous trees...

Ok well can you please provide some pictures , or something of substance ? Please by all means , bring me past the trees

[PathWalker]

This information is matching the them we get from:
David Wilcock in here: http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/988-fulford-owo-defeat
Ben Fulford in here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33246-Latest-from-benjamin-fulford-Private---trading-platforms---have-been-shut-down-in-prep&p=339809&viewfull=1#post339809

There is an interesting discusstion on this subject in this thread as well: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33790-DW-next-incarnation-...-have-at-it&p=346521&viewfull=1#post346521

[PathWalker]

Does anyone have links to the map-comparison between 2. nov prediction compared to 8. nov site? 200 mile difference does sound too much difference to me to be considered spot on proof? Here is the link to the 6.9 on 8th Nov: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usb0006lpm.php


Check the full correspondence in here: http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-east-china-sea-6-9-quake-undersea-reptilian-base-destroyed

[Taurean]

It seems to me that these EBE's have got a pretty wide spread of exotic weaponry to go round nuking and zapping each other with, yet all we've got is love and light to fight with.

[eric charles]

Listen here Pathwalker , Ben Fullford is a crackerjack ok , and he brought D.W along for the ride ! I love Davids research and his films , but when he correlates and tries to substantiate the things fullford says hmmmmmmmmmm
Jeff Rense a few months ago , put Fullford to total shame ! Fullford was lying through his teeth

[vibrations]

Ok, a bit of skepticism, if you allow me. I superimposed two images (bad small picts). The projection of the map is different so there is no way to overlap them correctly. Trying by all means you get quite a different spot where the base should be.

I bit more valuable proof would be if we would see the email before the November 8th and after that receive the "news". Also, we would need an earthquake expert to study seismic data if there is something pointing out no natural origin of the shock.
I doubt that some Andromeda whatever council would have permission to destroy entire base with everybody in it. It looks to me more a fantasy of some individuals who wish some ET intervention than a plausible event.

[RMorgan]

Personally, I don´t buy a single word of what this guy says. A human representative hearing voices in his mind from ETs from Andromeda...

When I was studying psychology, I´ve met lots of men hearing voices in their minds, from God´s voice to Satan´s voice. It´s called schizophrenia. Lots of these men were very intelligent and came up with pretty nice stories.

So, get a person with schizophrenia, with interest in esoteric matters and there you go. He´ll hear voices from any ET of his subconscious choice.

Get a naive person to believe this man and you got it.

I´m not trying to offend anyone here, but there´s a big possibility that this is one of these cases.

We must be careful on what we believe. There´s a lot of mentally ill persons out there, and usually they are very creative and come up with great stories.

Cheers,

Raf.

[muxfolder]

Listen here Pathwalker , Ben Fullford is a crackerjack ok , and he brought D.W along for the ride ! I love Davids research and his films , but when he correlates and tries to substantiate the things fullford says hmmmmmmmmmm


I agree 100%. I was just about to mention Fullford but you were faster.

[Selene]

Hold on. There could be something to this.

Tolec also refers to the ET’s taking out an underground base located in the Gulf of Aden a few days prior to the China Sea attack. If you do a USGS database search of all quakes in the Gulf of Aden for a wide area of 10-15 degrees North latitudes and of 43-51 degrees East longitudes (the coordinates of the gulf) for the entire month of October up to November 6, you get these results:

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6168/gulfofadenequakesoctobe.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/gulfofadenequakesoctobe.jpg/)


Ten quakes over a two day period October 21-22 occurred in a comparatively small area about 85 km (~53 miles) wide and only 26 km (16 miles) high. They were all at the same depth, in a significant 4.0-4.9 range, followed by one more 5.0 on Oct 31 which is not at the same tight location.

Furthermore, a second search for ‘all quakes’ in that same area since then, from November 1 to 11 shows none at all, that is: no aftershocks, as there would otherwise be expected following a series of eleven significant shocks.

Looking at the data surrounding the 6.9 China Sea quake of November 8, using an even wider area about 200 miles wide and high shows 21 events leading up to the 6.9 and again, no aftershocks in the entire field. Furthermore, half of these were within 50 miles of the 6.9, suggesting the possibility that there was some focused activity.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9340/chinaseawiderareaoctobe.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/chinaseawiderareaoctobe.jpg/)

I don’t know whether seismographs of underwater quakes look the same as those from land, but it would be interesting to see whether these quakes looked “typical” – or showed the percussive, explosion type graph similar to an underground nuclear detonation, as the August 23 Virginia/D.C. quake did.

Now, this doesn’t prove anything in total, but it sure does suggest that Tolec’s comments are not completely implausible, doesn’t it? If it wasn’t ET’s – and there is no proof of that – then someone could very well have detonated something in both cases. The “rogue faction” of the US military?

Is Tolec perhaps an insider using an ET ‘fiction’ story as his cover for leaking factual black information?

The focused area and the lack of aftershocks in both cases must surely mean something – unless, of course, you’d like to dismiss it as “happens all the time.” If so, debunkers please supply your data – and your credentials as seismologists here if you’d like to pretend this is “normal”…..

Just observing.

Cheers,

Selene

[Selene]

Does anyone have links to the map-comparison between 2. nov prediction compared to 8. nov site? 200 mile difference does sound too much difference to me to be considered spot on proof? Here is the link to the 6.9 on 8th Nov: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usb0006lpm.php

Pathwalker, you quoted someone unidentified in your original post as saying:


One observer stated, "I checked the USGS earthquake center against the slide show map of the base location and they are about 200 miles apart."

Looking further into this, the distance between the location of Tolec’s claimed underwater base of November 2 and the epicenter of the 6.9 quake of November 8 could be much less than 200 miles and in fact could be as close as damn is to swearing.

Juha, I’ve taken the two maps posted by Alfred Webre here http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/comparison-photos-nov-2-location-of-reptilian-base-and-nov-8-quake-epicenter-picture#slide=39570641 – one is Tolec’s time-stamped November 2 map (number 3 in the slideshow) and the other the Google quake map of November 8 (number 2 in the slideshow), equalized them for size as closely as I could and superimposed one over the other.

I apologize for the small size here, but enlarging the section doesn't really improve visibility. The projections are also slightly different, making an ‘exact size fit’ problematic, but if you squint here, you can see a red dot marking the epicenter of the 6.9.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2417/compositechinaseaquake.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/compositechinaseaquake.jpg/)


It does, indeed, sit very close to the ‘S’ in the blurred words “East China Sea” on the earlier Tolec map visible below it – his location of the underwater base.

Close enough for me, anyway. Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Selene

[christian]

can you please provide some pictures , or something of substance ?

What I found is the smoking gun in the article on the examiner site, is the email, that allegedly was sent to Alfred at November 2nd. If that's true, it's very significant, no way to proove the mail is real, of course, he can photoshop as many screenshots, as he'd like, couldn't he?



From: Tolec
Date: Wed, November 02, 2011 2:02 pm
To: "EXOPOLITICS.COM" <exopolitics@exopolitics.com>

“Alfred, as you know, I will not publicly (as in: to the listening public) reveal my specific knowledge of base location, strategic or tactical plans or details... before a planned strike on any Reptilian underground or undersea base.
-----

“However, in seriously reconsidering this matter - as a matter of strategic reporting - I will TELL YOU the location of the China undersea base. This way, you can confirm your prior knowledge of this base, if you want to, in writing the next story... which in many ways will be similar to the Gulf of Aden story. BTW, I expect this next story, about the destruction of the China base, to be coming to you... in the very near future.

“Therefore: here is the location of the China undersea base:

* take a look at this map [ED: IN SLIDE SHOW]
* look at the middle part of China (relative to North/South)... and follow this far off to the east
* you will see the words in the ocean off of the China coast - "East China Sea"
* the location of this specific undersea base is just above, or just north of, the word "East"... between the "a" and the "s"
* one could also describe this location, based on this map, as being in the East China Sea, on the ocean floor,
just under the ridge of an undersea butte, due east of the city of Hangzhou.
-----

“Alfred, in closing, so now you have prior knowledge of where this specific base is located.

“Again, I was thinking, in order that you can add further credibility to your reported Andromeda Council news stories... the prior knowledge of this base location by you might significantly help in the evidentiary support of this continued police action... the strikes to take out the strategically most important underground/undersea bases... as you write your next story on the China undersea base being taken-out.”

Everyone has flaws, Fulford, Hoagland and others have provided some great contributions, that I highly appreciate, this generalized demonization now is too harsh, I find, maybe they did not just went completly crazy for good.

Walk a mile in their shoes, you know.

[Selene]

Eric, you commented:


And for Tolec , ive watched a few interviews of this sort in the past month , why doesnt Tolec show himself , why doesnt the suposed Andromeda show itself , its all hor***hit , thats why .

Or perhaps you might consider this:

• The information is good. Very, very good – and therefore too high-quality to be merely “telepathy from ET’s”. (I’ve been a high-functioning psychic since, well, before you were born; I know good when I see it.) Calling those numerical coordinates so closely ahead of time is practically unprecedented. It suggests, instead, someone with very, very good insider knowledge of a very earthly kind – a whistleblower inside the black ops community, someone aware of those undersea bases – and their politics.

• If this person was indeed a deep insider, that would give them plenty of motive to conceal their identity and location. This person is taking significant life-threatening risks to contact Webre. Consider that.

• The “Andromeda” thing could very well be the disguise: a nutbar, sure. A great way to put his controllers off the scent, make Tolec merely a lucky-guessing flake…. Perfect. Nobody real.

• His Andromedacouncil.com website is done through a proxy; see point two above.

• The scenario – ‘good’ ET’s vs ‘bad’ ET’s – doesn’t necessarily describe the politics here. It could in fact be a very earthbound internal struggle between two dark human factions for control of world power. You can’t exclude that. Neither group could exactly give a hoot about the rest of us – so let’s not embrace the victors too quickly here as the good guys.

Just a few more thoughts.

Cheers,

Selene

[apokalypse]

he might fool you but he will not fool me because i put these kind of information on the side, on my table right now is underlying messages guys like Alex Collier-David icke and especially Max Igan who i'm really into right now, another day max talking about solutions...ect.

it's stupid and dumb to say why doesn't Tolec show himself, have you consider if he show himself then his family or friends would be in danger? another thing is how do i know one of you i here is not working for those bastard trying to destroy genuine contactee?

[ViralSpiral]

Alfred Webre is another one who is about to be blacklisted , in the same line as David Wilcock and Mr 19.5 Hoagland . All these rediculous claims with no substance to them !

And for Tolec , ive watched a few interviews of this sort in the past month , why doesnt Tolec show himself , why doesnt the suposed Andromeda show itself , its all horsehit , thats why .

thatnks for the post though

Hi Eric

I appreciate the skepticism. Unreasonable judgement, not.
We need both views to get balance, without having to throw horse****...

Being a flower-child (i.e. right-brained) I rely on my intuition, as do many others. If it feels right, it just does. This does NOT mean I follow blindly. I am also a healthy "anti-authoritarian", allowing space for all....


http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens1411200module142954541photo_1293238722left-brain-right-brain-qu


respect

[Ethereal Blue Being]

ok.. I am going to go way, way out on a limb here... When people are claiming that underground Reptilian Bases and bases of TPTB..TPTW.. NWO or any other group of sentient beings underground locations are being killed/destroyed by concussion weapons that destroy beings but leave the structure intact except for entrances or whatever the case may be...or can the "beings" escape ( walk thru walls , beam out , phase shift, jump room etc) before being killed..??? Am I the only one at Avalon that finds this horrendous? How does all this killing raise the vibration of the planet , solarsystem, galaxy etc. Am I so unusual or bazaar that all killing everywhere makes me extremely sad to the very depths of my soul....doesnt all of this continue the never ending cycle of revenge/vendetta type of mentality? I dont want to think about this right now ........

[Ultima Thule]

I did some overlaying also. You need to really twist the projections to get geographical landmarks to fit at least some what.

2. nov, star marks the spot
11244
Add 8. nov, add red dot to mark the spot
11243
In the scale of things it doesn´t look too bad, but there still is distance. To go out one week ahead of this and claim something to happen this accurately is somewhat against odds. I would like to see the original email date confirmed though.

You know how it is, it´s like...I just don´t know, you know?

Juha

[modwiz]

ok.. I am going to go way, way out on a limb here... When people are claiming that underground Reptilian Bases and bases of TPTB..TPTW.. NWO or any other group of sentient beings underground locations are being killed/destroyed by concussion weapons that destroy beings but leave the structure intact except for entrances or whatever the case may be...or can the "beings" escape ( walk thru walls , beam out , phase shift, jump room etc) before being killed..??? Am I the only one at Avalon that finds this horrendous? How does all this killing raise the vibration of the planet , solarsystem, galaxy etc. Am I so unusual or bazaar that all killing everywhere makes me extremely sad to the very depths of my soul....doesnt all of this continue the never ending cycle of revenge/vendetta type of mentality? I dont want to think about this right now ........

I see this as a similar situation to my immune system dealing with pathogens that do not belong in my system. A pathogen in my stomach may be fine in my large intestine and actually belong there. It is all about the integrity of a given system. When a small number of a given life form threaten the established and rightful lifeform then it is incumbent on the original to deal with the situation or perish. The reptilians in this case are an invasive and harmful lifeform. This is just hygiene. We won't even get into diet here.

Revenge vendetta happens within a culture with particulars knowing each other. It is personal. Hygiene and vendetta are not cognate with each other.

I do admire your compassion though.

[Ethereal Blue Being]

Modwiz
.. thank you I think I understand what your saying.. as an example and an homage to the late Gene Roddenerry (creator of Star Trek for those that dont know) It would be like having Earth ( rightful lifeform humans) and then have the Cardassians (Reptilian lifeform from another part of the galaxy) decide they want Earth and all of its resources and humans as "slaves" unbenownst to the average human but known to various monarchy, world leaders, military ,. rogue factions etc down throu the eons and many deals, treaties etc are being made behind the "scenes" without the permission of the populice t..Then add a few beings from Beta Zed/highly intuitive humans ( empathics that feel the emotions of all involved but align with the rightful lifeform of the planet) so it literally comes down to survival..kind of makes me think of the famous bumper sticker "Everything I ever needed to know in life I learned on StarTrek"

[DNA]

What I found is the smoking gun in the article on the examiner site, is the email, that allegedly was sent to Alfred at November 2nd. If that's true, it's very significant, no way to proove the mail is real, of course, he can photoshop as many screenshots, as he'd like, couldn't he?
[INDENT][INDENT]From: Tolec
Date: Wed, November 02, 2011 2:02 pm
To: "EXOPOLITICS.COM" <exopolitics@exopolitics.com>

“Alfred, as you know, I will not publicly (as in: to the listening public) reveal my specific knowledge of base location, strategic or tactical plans or details... before a planned strike on any Reptilian underground or undersea base.
-----

“However, in seriously reconsidering this matter - as a matter of strategic reporting - I will TELL YOU the location of the China undersea base. This way, you can confirm your prior knowledge of this base, if you want to, in writing the next story... which in many ways will be similar to the Gulf of Aden story. BTW, I expect this next story, about the destruction of the China base, to be coming to you... in the very near future.

“Therefore: here is the location of the China undersea base:

* take a look at this map [ED: IN SLIDE SHOW]
* look at the middle part of China (relative to North/South)... and follow this far off to the east
* you will see the words in the ocean off of the China coast - "East China Sea"
* the location of this specific undersea base is just above, or just north of, the word "East"... between the "a" and the "s"
* one could also describe this location, based on this map, as being in the East China Sea, on the ocean floor,
just under the ridge of an undersea butte, due east of the city of Hangzhou.
-----

.

Thanks Chiquet
I've not given this Alfred guy much thought, and his claims seemed reactionary self agrandizing, so I was not even on the fence about this stuff.
I think I've even mentioned to someone "well why don't his supposed aliens tell him of something before it happens, so as to give him more credence"?
I'm going to start looking over this stuff.
I mean, I'm a pretty big fan of Val Valerian, and he talks about this kind of stuff all the time, or atleast did in his matrix books.
And then there are "The Terra Papers" of Robert Morning Sky that talk of a vast Reptilian Empire of which we are the equivelent of the back yard boonies, and left under the rule of a territorial over lord of sorts, I believe the Orions who are not reptilian but of a mamalian decent, and for intensive purposes, would be the Annunaki.

And of course Charles Forte, who said out and out in his 1919 work that "mankind has been owned since the beginning of our race, and that we have been traded and aquired by differing Galactic Empires for so many beads".

I have personally been holding out hope that who ever is currently our "galactic" owner, might be of a kinder provocation than the reptilians, and this is why we have been allowed to advance technologically.

And it could be that our location is in a state of flux so to speak. The downed alien who was rescued by Robert Morning Sky's grand father and tribe, had stated that there was a present war going on in space over the earth, and the humans that live on it, and that this war was far from being decided at the time, just after the end of the second world war.





ok.. I am going to go way, way out on a limb here... When people are claiming that underground Reptilian Bases and bases of TPTB..TPTW.. NWO or any other group of sentient beings underground locations are being killed/destroyed by concussion weapons that destroy beings but leave the structure intact except for entrances or whatever the case may be...or can the "beings" escape ( walk thru walls , beam out , phase shift, jump room etc) before being killed..??? Am I the only one at Avalon that finds this horrendous? How does all this killing raise the vibration of the planet , solarsystem, galaxy etc. Am I so unusual or bazaar that all killing everywhere makes me extremely sad to the very depths of my soul....doesnt all of this continue the never ending cycle of revenge/vendetta type of mentality? I dont want to think about this right now ........

I hear you, I really do.
I personally don't get into all of this reptilians equate luciferians thing.
But, some how, I think it is about organizations.

For instance, imagine a hitler esque galactic third riech, dealing death and genocide on a scale our brains really can not comprehend.
Would you not kill to end such an onslaught?

I for one have been pissed off at the lack of fortitude I have seen from the Billy Meier folk who epitomize the "ass hole hippies from outter space" definition.

You've gotta break some eggs to make an omellete.

[PathWalker]

Method for extracting the truth from information.

I watch an interview video with Enelia Bentz and she provides this method:
1. Close your eyse
2. Tell yourself a truth (your name, your postrue, feeling, color...)
3. Fill how this truth feels in your body, or specific organ.
4. Remember this feeling.
5. Tell yourself a lie (your name, the time, the location... )
6. Fill how this lie feels in your body, or specific organ.
7. Remember this feeling.

8. Tell yourself the specific infromation you are testing (a small part).
9. Fill how the infromation feels in your body.
10. Compare this information with the previous.

This method is prgressive and after a while you will feel immidiatly the infromation.

Good luck.

As for this information: The part about the distruction of underground base is truth.
The rest I do not know.

[mountain_jim]

Concerning dowsing for truth, there was some information in the channelling forum in last week or so, about connecting internally with your higher self, asking a question with a yes or no answer, and then noticing whether your body leaned forward for 'yes' or backward for 'no'. Body Dowsing I think it was called.

I have not tried this yet, though I did in my early years consult the I Ching Oracle for key life decision advice, which certainly seemed to work for me and help keep me on my path, so to speak.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Any of the debree float to the surface? Any dead reptilians? Pieces of the base?

These reptilians make good footwear and belts. They also taste good broiled with a little salsa sauce and french fries.

[Snowbird]

ok.. I am going to go way, way out on a limb here... When people are claiming that underground Reptilian Bases and bases of TPTB..TPTW.. NWO or any other group of sentient beings underground locations are being killed/destroyed by concussion weapons that destroy beings but leave the structure intact except for entrances or whatever the case may be...or can the "beings" escape ( walk thru walls , beam out , phase shift, jump room etc) before being killed..??? Am I the only one at Avalon that finds this horrendous? How does all this killing raise the vibration of the planet , solarsystem, galaxy etc. Am I so unusual or bazaar that all killing everywhere makes me extremely sad to the very depths of my soul....doesnt all of this continue the never ending cycle of revenge/vendetta type of mentality? I dont want to think about this right now ........

Well, from my understanding, which is limited, prior to all/each base destruction, there were many warnings issued. If I am wrong in what I state here, someone correct me, but I understood that those humans in the underground bases were warned and escaped. Those reptilian beings who were removed by force after many prior warnings, now find themselves off-planet and possibly off-galaxy. They were not destroyed. And again from what I understand, there existed a group(s) of reptilian beings who, after repeated warnings, refused to leave and they were destroyed.

We are looking at the rescue of our planet in its totality and its 7 billion human inhabitants. This earth has international and global laws that are in place to protect against invading forces who have been working diligently for thousands of years to divide and conquer. The reptilians and minions are those invading forces. We, of the 7 billion inhabitants, do not have the means or weaponry to eradicate the invading forces. They are highly technically advanced. Therefore, our off-planet benevolent neighbors have been and are accomplishing this for us, so that we can advance into the real neighborhood beyond this earth.

This had to be done.

[PathWalker]

Well, from my understanding, which is limited, prior to all/each base destruction, there were many warnings issued. If I am wrong in what I state here, someone correct me, but I understood that those humans in the underground bases were warned and escaped. Those reptilian beings who were removed by force after many prior warnings, now find themselves off-planet and possibly off-galaxy. They were not destroyed. And again from what I understand, there existed a group(s) of reptilian beings who, after repeated warnings, refused to leave and they were destroyed.

We are looking at the rescue of our planet in its totality and its 7 billion human inhabitants. This earth has international and global laws that are in place to protect against invading forces who have been working diligently for thousands of years to divide and conquer. The reptilians and minions are those invading forces. We, of the 7 billion inhabitants, do not have the means or weaponry to eradicate the invading forces. They are highly technically advanced. Therefore, our off-planet benevolent neighbors have been and are accomplishing this for us, so that we can advance into the real neighborhood beyond this earth.

This had to be done.

If you watch the recent update from Drunvalo in this thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9152-Drunvalo-Melchizedek&p=148104&viewfull=1#post148104), he tells something about this line. From a more higher spiritual perspective. Where technology is redundant.
When free will zone is breached in a planetary scale, the intervention is from a different scale.
I connect more with the information coming from Drunvalo above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9152-Drunvalo-Melchizedek&p=148104&viewfull=1#post148104).

[christian]

In her latest interview with James Gilliland Inelia Benz corroborates Alfred Webre's claims in regard to the destroyed undersea base.

http://ascension101.com/en/interviews/169-inelia-interview-with-james-gilliland-eceti-oct-2011.html

[Snowbird]

Well, from my understanding, which is limited, prior to all/each base destruction, there were many warnings issued. If I am wrong in what I state here, someone correct me, but I understood that those humans in the underground bases were warned and escaped. Those reptilian beings who were removed by force after many prior warnings, now find themselves off-planet and possibly off-galaxy. They were not destroyed. And again from what I understand, there existed a group(s) of reptilian beings who, after repeated warnings, refused to leave and they were destroyed.

We are looking at the rescue of our planet in its totality and its 7 billion human inhabitants. This earth has international and global laws that are in place to protect against invading forces who have been working diligently for thousands of years to divide and conquer. The reptilians and minions are those invading forces. We, of the 7 billion inhabitants, do not have the means or weaponry to eradicate the invading forces. They are highly technically advanced. Therefore, our off-planet benevolent neighbors have been and are accomplishing this for us, so that we can advance into the real neighborhood beyond this earth.

This had to be done.

If you watch the recent update from Drunvalo in this thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9152-Drunvalo-Melchizedek&p=148104&viewfull=1#post148104), he tells something about this line. From a more higher spiritual perspective. Where technology is redundant.
When free will zone is breached in a planetary scale, the intervention is from a different scale.
I connect more with the information coming from Drunvalo above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9152-Drunvalo-Melchizedek&p=148104&viewfull=1#post148104).

Hi Pathwalker! Yes, I have viewed the videos that you have linked above. There is a more recent interview of Drunvalo by Lilou where he describes having been visiting a part of the world that he did not want to name, and while there, the reptilians attempted to take his life several times. They failed because he was protected by very strong and loving forces from his soul group. He was then visited by reptilians in humanoid form when he returned to his home and again, was protected from them.

Not everyone however, is at the level of consciousness of a Melchizadek. These would be in need of technology to protect them.

[eric charles]

Eric, you commented:


And for Tolec , ive watched a few interviews of this sort in the past month , why doesnt Tolec show himself , why doesnt the suposed Andromeda show itself , its all hor***hit , thats why .

Or perhaps you might consider this:

• The information is good. Very, very good – and therefore too high-quality to be merely “telepathy from ET’s”. (I’ve been a high-functioning psychic since, well, before you were born; I know good when I see it.) Calling those numerical coordinates so closely ahead of time is practically unprecedented. It suggests, instead, someone with very, very good insider knowledge of a very earthly kind – a whistleblower inside the black ops community, someone aware of those undersea bases – and their politics.

• If this person was indeed a deep insider, that would give them plenty of motive to conceal their identity and location. This person is taking significant life-threatening risks to contact Webre. Consider that.

• The “Andromeda” thing could very well be the disguise: a nutbar, sure. A great way to put his controllers off the scent, make Tolec merely a lucky-guessing flake…. Perfect. Nobody real.

• His Andromedacouncil.com website is done through a proxy; see point two above.

• The scenario – ‘good’ ET’s vs ‘bad’ ET’s – doesn’t necessarily describe the politics here. It could in fact be a very earthbound internal struggle between two dark human factions for control of world power. You can’t exclude that. Neither group could exactly give a hoot about the rest of us – so let’s not embrace the victors too quickly here as the good guys.

Just a few more thoughts.

Cheers,

Selene


Bwuahaahahah , i dont mean to sounds like an asshole , but this made me laugh ! How can you people beleive all the crap that is being flung at us from every direction . Ive learn to discern truth from B.S when i see it . I call B.S on this one , not on you Selene but on the vericity of this information !

In very very many ways we are being led down the wrong path unintentionally , how about we try stop jumping on everyones bandwagon before the truth is even verified , or even better til some credible evidence is shown ! Stories without evidence is just hearsay , and it is really starting to make us "truthseekers " look like fools and crackpots

[Selene]

Eric, you said:



Bwuahaahahah , i dont mean to sounds like an asshole....


http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3159/absolutelysure.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/absolutelysure.jpg/)


In fact, on looking over your total posts since you joined this forum, your posting behavior very much resembles that of the "Anonymouses" : those paid disinfo agents who populate other forums and whose job it is to "call BS and shout a lot" when any possibly-correct information comes forward. Their purpose is to blow smoke and distract readers from rational discussion, to pull the discussion away from consideration of the facts.

Your posts never put forward your own argument; they all simply throw dung at others' ideas, never approaching the substance of a thread. You are not a true sceptic in the sense of one who sincerely questions ideas. You are a professional BS-er.

So, sorry: I'm calling you out. Either stick to the substance of my argument here and state your counter-arguments - or ..... flush.

Regards,

Selene

P.S. Mods, kindly adjudicate....

[eric charles]

Eric, you said:



Bwuahaahahah , i dont mean to sounds like an asshole....


http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3159/absolutelysure.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/absolutelysure.jpg/)


In fact, on looking over your total posts since you joined this forum, your posting behavior very much resembles that of the "Anonymouses" : those paid disinfo agents who populate other forums and whose job it is to "call BS and shout a lot" when any possibly-correct information comes forward. Their purpose is to blow smoke and distract readers from rational discussion, to pull the discussion away from consideration of the facts.

Your posts never put forward your own argument; they all simply throw dung at others' ideas, never approaching the substance of a thread. You are not a true sceptic in the sense of one who sincerely questions ideas. You are a professional BS-er.

So, sorry: I'm calling you out. Either stick to the substance of my argument here and state your counter-arguments - or ..... flush.

Regards,

Selene

P.S. Mods, kindly adjudicate....

Ok so if i am a Disinfo agent as you state , why the hell would i use my real name and my photo ?

Most posts on these forums have no EVIDENCE whatso****ingever ! Im just trying to point out B.S thats all here ! If you want to belive fantasy stories , go ahead as you wish , when i see something of rational though posted , i aplaud and contribute , but when i see total ludicrous stories , I point them out !

If the mods and Admins dont like me , they can ban me ! Im just a sane regular person on here , who doesnt take B.S ..... end of story !!
Once in a while when i have $ i even donate to Kerry and Bill , 5$ here and there , and have followed them since basically the inception of Camelot !

[ThePythonicCow]

If the mods and Admins dont like me , they can ban me ! Im just a sane regular person on here
OK - we can do that :).

You are hereby on vacation for a week.

If you have trouble after you return understanding how your attitude that I see in your posts on this thread (and other posts of yours) is disruptive, you can look forward to more extended vacations, even early retirement ;).

I don't know if you're a paid disinfo agent or not ... but if you're not ... you might want to sue for back pay.

[Fred Steeves]

You are hereby on vacation for a week.



Can't say I didn't see that developing with Eric a mile away. Good job on that one Paul.

Cheers,
Fred

[ClandestineDisclosure]

When I was studying psychology, I´ve met lots of men hearing voices in their minds, from God´s voice to Satan´s voice. It´s called schizophrenia. Lots of these men were very intelligent and came up with pretty nice stories. So, get a person with schizophrenia, with interest in esoteric matters and there you go. He´ll hear voices from any ET of his subconscious choice.


What if the person hears voices in his head and doesn't have an interest in esoteric matters; is he still schizophrenic? Tolec clams to not have had any interest in this stuff until late 2010 when members of the Andromeda Council (AC) started talking to him. Tolec also claims not to be that creative. So, I wonder...if a person hears voices in his head, does that alone make him schizophrenic? Tolec claims to have received messages from the AC while in the dream state, as well. Are not scriptures (pick a book...any book...it probably doesn't matter) filled with stories of men who've received messages from God in dreams, in their hearts, in their minds, emanating from a burning bush, etc? Therefore, if the measurement of schizophrenia includes hearing voices that no one else can hear -- which I know it can -- then should the men in these scriptures also be considered schizophrenic? If so, then an entire myriad of questions may be further asked about religion, faith, and belief. Personally, you can keep all that belief stuff. I's rather KNOW the truth.

Having written all that, I'll say that I've personally had some extraordinary spiritual experiences. Thus, I know what I know; and I know what's possible. As such, I wonder whether what Tolec is saying is true. Spiritual experiences notwithstanding, my discernment and critical thought processes are still in tact. To believe is one thing. To know is an entirely different matter. Now, I've talked to Tolec on several occasions; and, I'm still trying to discern truth. For evidence, Tolec offers having made three predictions of attacks against as yet unseen reptilians against as yet unseen underground and undersea reptilian bases, which - as evidenced by certain records of seismic events - have come to pass -- Underground bases in the USA; Gulf of Aden; and the East China Sea have purportedly been destroyed. As I write this, one base remains; and, according to Tolec with whom I spoke a few days ago, he's given the location of that base to Alfred Lambermont Webre. He has NOT given it to me.

At this point, I'm not ready to debunk Tolec's story; because, whilst I'll readily admit his story involves some really interesting and fun-to-think-about high strangeness, I can't prove whether what he's saying is true or not. Given recent scientific revelations regarding the unseen dimensions of the universe and my own spiritual experiences, I think it irresponsible and quite possibly arrogant to out-of-hand deem Tolec's story complete and utter poppycock. :ufo:

Probably very much like you, I suspect it may well require an Andormeda Council member to fly down here, land in my driveway, and take me for a spin on his craft in order for me to KNOW what Tolec is saying is true. If that ever happens, hmmmm...I may have to think twice before posting such an outrageous claim...without picture-proof...on this forum.

In the meantime...

Peace

[eric charles]

If the mods and Admins dont like me , they can ban me ! Im just a sane regular person on here
OK - we can do that :).

You are hereby on vacation for a week.

If you have trouble after you return understanding how your attitude that I see in your posts on this thread (and other posts of yours) is disruptive, you can look forward to more extended vacations, even early retirement ;).

I don't know if you're a paid disinfo agent or not ... but if you're not ... you might want to sue for back pay.

So here I am again , coming back for vengeance Paul , gonna sue for payback lol