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jackovesk
13th November 2011, 18:37
High-ranking Australian Satanist on Deathbed: Satanists Rule the World..!

Everything Indicates He Is Right..!

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“Petor Narsagonan” or “Frater 616″ was an Australian Adept in the world of Satanism, which is synonymous with the Illuminati. Included here are Henry Makow’s article on Frater 616′s revelations of the Satanic world as well as Frater 616′s two-part manuscript.

Not since Svali’s confessions of some years back has so much been said about the Illuminati’s hidden activities.

January 12, 2010

Summary: Satanism is no longer an exclusively occult movement. The foundation of the New World Order is illuminism, which the EU professes. Illuminism is a global freemasonic brotherhood which declares Lucifer to be its god in an all out endeavour to secure domination of this planet for the benefit of a small clique of international bankers and their political and media henchmen – for the sake of their enrichment at our cost, to make us subservient slaves and to reduce our number by 70% or more.

Here a highranking Satanist allegedly reveals on his deathbed his luxurious sensual reward for promoting that movement: Satanists rule the world, he says and so confirms what Pres. Clinton´s mentor, Carroll Quigley, stated in other words. The dying Satanist belonged to an Alpha Lodge in Sydney and states Sydney to be the centre of global Satanism. He describes a luxurious brothel being used as part of the satanic cult for the Dark Goddess, that child molesting by politicians world wide is ususal – as well as child sacrifices to the Devil, whose temple the world is to be.

They are finishing a gigantic act of treason to our societies. They owe anything and everybody of importance – nearly: Businesses, companies, many Christian churches, people incl. military men, actors, preachers, are even in control of the Vatican. Intelligence services are their tools. They also use tools like the war on terror, taxation, multiculturalism, dissolution of the family – all according to the Hegelian strategy towards total world domination.

People who revealed their identities and plans were put in prison and killed. They imagine to be able to do anything they like. Our sheeple youth is being seduced and corrupted by pop music using Satanic symbols and drugs in order to dull future generations from opposing them. This may seem incredible. But readers who have regularly been reading this blog will recognize this, as most of it constititutes the political elements of the New World Order politics so often depicted as Luciferian here.

The following is so weird that I have been asking myself if this is really true. I came to the conclusion that even if it may be a figment it does explain so many of the irrational phenomena associated with EU´s illuminism (explanatory statement) and Barroso´s, Gordon Brown´s, Sarkozy´s , Angela Merkel´s, Obama´s Ban Ki-moon´s, Henry Kissinger´s and Pres. Bush sr.´s talk about the New World Order.

That Satanism has spread into the pop industry is beyond doubt. See this video performance on TV featuring the rapper Jay-Z and the explanation for this bizarre behaviour. Here is another pop singer, Lady Gaga, sings reversed: Me love Satan – and on this video she makes Satanic illuminist symbols. In particular heavy metal music is connected with Satanism. I have previously described Satanism in the UN and here as well as in the the EU.

Left Rapper Jay-Z – notice his halo, right Lady Gaga – notice S for Satan and her Osiris/Lucifer all-seeing eye sign.

Now, my dear reader, you will have to decide for yourself, the trustworthyness of the following “death bed statement” below. Here is an article by a Satanist – who, of course, stamps the Frater 616 statement as a blatant hoax. On the other side, Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44).

The Satanist states that there are no alpha lodges – not in Sydney either. But there are many such freemasonic lodges, in fact. No. 158 , No. 172 , No 449 here , No 116 here . Her Alpha Lodge 970 in Blacktown, 74 km from Sydney, and here Alpha Lodge No 81 in Cambridge, New Zealand. If the Alpha Lodge in Sydney is so poisonous as stated, it would probably be kept secret. In fact, there is an Alpha Lodge in Sydney – without an obvious homepage: March 9, 2009, The Brisbane Nova Scotia Lodge: We are also about to welcome W.B. Bill Brien into the lodge as an affiliate. Bill comes from Sydney where he attended Alpha Lodge.

The Alpha church course is indeed a Satanic matter – since the 1990es they are encroaching on US Churches, are active in 160 countries, have snared 13 mio people and are running 33.500 alphacourses. The freemasons behind them have hooked the Anglican Church since the 1970es – and are in control of the Vatican according to this book.

Here are lay catholic remarks: “The real aim of the Alpha course it seems is to get everyone to believe in a sort of “lowest common denominator” of Christianity, with nobody causing any offense about doctrinal issues (in other words, “let’s have unity at the expense of truth”), and everyone believing just some of the absolute basics, but leaving out issues like authority, the nature of justification, grace. If, as stated, it is primarily for the “unchurched,” then why try to encourage practising Catholics who don’t fit that definition to attend the course?”

This means: You can do whatever you please. Christ loves you and saved you through his death. Forget his commandments! This is Antichristian and opens the gate to what follows.
I was present at a few such very well attended meetings at Flensburg at the invitation of a friendly colleague, before their superficiality and Antichristian nature became clear to me.

These Alpha churches have as partners i.a. NM Rothschild & Sons, The Warburgs, The Bank for International Settlements, The London School of Economics – the very backbone of the New World Order. I suppose the freemason alpha lodges have been infiltrating the churches, the alpha lodges being much older. They are eager to get information about children

Australia’s Global Satanic Legacy And Future (Pt. 1)

By Frater 616

“I will go down to The Altars in Hell To Satan, The Giver of Life. O! Prince of Darkness, Hear Me! Our Father who wert in heaven Hallowed be Thy Name In heaven as it is on Earth. Give us this day our Ecstasy And deliver us to evil As well as temptation. For we are your Kingdom. For Aeons and Aeons.”

January 3, 2010 Henry Makow Ph.D.: In an explosive deathbed confession, a former head of the satanist “Alpha Lodge” in Sydney, Australia, revealed the pervasive worldwide power of organized Satanism, which is synonymous with the Illuminati/illuminists.

Excerpt

“Things are not as they seem ,” he wrote, describing a wholesale betrayal of society by its ostensible leaders. “Petor Narsagonan” aka “Frater 616″ died March 25, 2004. Recently, his executor, an “Aloysius Fozdyke” (their satanic names) sent the 15 pp. document by email to Arthur Cristian, webmaster of Love for Life – using this contact form. Aloysius Fozdike was Outer Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia.

Among the material was this disjointed essay concerning the Alpha Lodges. It was His intention to have this published in the popular media.

Satanic influence is “now so pervasive as not to be readily noticed,” Frater says.
Satanists are laced throughout Australian society, and the pattern is replicated everywhere. They include politicians, doctors, high ranking police officers, lawyers, decorated military men, media personalities, fashion models and social workers.

“A mentor” in the Satanic network set him up in the travel business and for years Frater live a life of unimaginable wealth, occultism and debauchery.

The US-based “Church of Satan” was the public face of “an ancient body whose very existence had never before been imagined.” He lists as “influential members” J.P. Morgan, Drs. James McDonald and Rene Hardy, the Kennedy’s (including Jackie), Irving Berlin, Groucho Marx, Elvis Presley, Garner Ted Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Ronald Reagan, Edward Heath, Thomas Plantard de St Claire and the Bushes, Stephen Spielberg, George Lucas and Gerald Ford.

Intelligence agencies are instruments of the Illuminati central bankers. “Many of America’s high ranking military men were members of various Satanic Lodges or kindred organizations.” They overlapped with organized crime and drug trafficking. US and Australian Navy ships were used, as well as oil tankers (Russian claim).

Brothels and porn are a small part of the “International Satanic Empire” (i.e. Illuminati.) Most of the money comes from CIA drug trafficking, sophisticated blackmail, money lending and currency trading. “Satanists of the highest order are behind a number of wealthy, Conservative, New Right Christian churches and organizations in America.”

The aim of the Alpha Lodge is 66% illiteracy rates in the Western World by 2010, and “the destruction of at least 70% of the globe’s population by the year 2030.”Most governments count on their “sheeple” to respond in “typical infantile fashion” and to identify with ” a more powerful force– even if it enslaves, brutalizes and humiliates them.”

Frater attributes the following to the “influence of Satanism in the modern world:”
-The developed world is heading toward Third World status because the central banks and here are owned by Satanists. -Multinationals rape the environment and reap the rewards from Australia’s natural resources. -The media in the Free World is “heavily controlled” and in bed with the government. -Fluoride in Australia’s water supply. -Educational standards dumbed down. -Multiculturalism foisted on the First World (with exception of Japan.) -Illuminati Satanists behind 9-11 and here. -Mossad came up with weapons of mass destruction rationale for Iraq Invasion. Illuminati uses Israel to run US foreign policy.

Conclusion

“Homo sapiens are herd animals, after all! …Give them an election with no policy choices and for the most part they are happy. Allow their children no real prospects of success, inhibit their natural drives, particularly their sex drives; limit their options, coarsen their choices and society (such as it still is) quickly falls apart into predetermined categories. No families, just weak individuals free to do as they are told. Satan is a wonderful ‘systems man.’

What do we say about a youth who can’t tell the difference between good and evil? Increasingly this is the condition of society as a whole. The world is indeed controlled by Satanists who indulge in the most heinous crimes with impunity. Membership in this club appears to be the price of success, whether political, economic or cultural. “Progress” and “social change” are synonymous with mass social induction into Satanism.

Frater 616: “Every hour of every day and every night, people are knowingly engaged in Satan’s service. Human sacrifice–whether ritually and quicker, or slowly and degradingly over time — is all harnessed to specific ends. ” “Politicians are introduced by a carefully graded set of criteria and situations that [convince] them that their victims will be “Our Little Secret.” Young children sexually molested and physically abused by politicians worldwide are quickly used as sacrifices.”

Here is more from this Satanistic script...

Remember: Aloysius Fozdike was Outer Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia. “I believe in one Prince, Satan, who reigns over this Earth, And in one Law which triumphs over all. I believe in one Temple Our Temple to Satan, and in one Word which triumphs over all: The Word of ecstasy. I give praise to my Prince The fire-giver and look forward to his reign And the pleasures that are to come!

Satanism finally managed to infiltrate the major left wing and middle of the road political parties on May Day, 1997. Another group long ago bought the American Congress, so the Alpha Lodges concentrated on the Republican Party and this has paid some very high dividends. Currently the U.S. federal government dances to our tune! Unknown – if not always unsuspected – Infernal Temples exist in every major city throughout the world – Vatican City and here included!

I knew her as Lilith, a High Priestess of an ultra-secretive Black Order of Typhon. Hers was the easy smile of a true neurotic and the body of an Angel. Her long cruel fingernails were enamelled in the chic and expensive titillations of her victims and their fantasies. I had first met her at a stately home in an inner Sydney suburb at one of the regular Black Masses held to strengthen the bonds of lust, occult knowledge and perversion. She sacrificed herself to help establish what is considered today, by those in the know, to be the most powerful and important Satanic organization in the world.


That group comprises some of the most educated, wealthy, corrupt and corrupting people that have ever existed. And they operate out of Sydney, Australia – but their influence is international.

Lilith procured children to satiate the debased lusts of many Satanists. These were taken from single girls by promises, for a fee or occasionally, simple stolen. Babies were bred for their various purposes by ‘Broodmares’ – young unemployed girls who were paid to hand over their ‘produce’.The most disturbing aspect of the Black Masses held in Sydney was and remains the ease with which victims were and continue to be obtained and the lack of any effective interest by the police. Sex has a ritual character, (porno being introduced by Obama´s safe schools czar in schoolrooms – even as even homosexuality is taught there.

Now a British NHS leaflet tells school pupils: “An orgasm a day keeps the doctor away!”)

Some of the deadliest, most effective and disarming assassins are women. Within the Alpha Lodges they are worshipped as embodiments of the dark Goddess and here – who is known by many names and is virgin still! Currently the Outer Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia is a very highly placed and successful Federal politician. Together and with time, those at the highest echelons of International Satanism believe that there is nothing they cannot achieve. And if you knew even half of what they have already done you would agree.

The Alpha-Lodge to which I was a member placed a great deal of emphasis upon Magic, both in theory and practice. Demons were evoked and dispatched; sigils made and sacrifice and the letting of blood encouraged.

Kissinger refined Hitler’s ‘Terror Technique’ into the more subtle and powerful ‘Tension Technique’: building tension in society and then finding a scapegoat. (Hegelian thesis, antithesis, synthesis – known from The French Revolution). Dark Path adepts do this in insignificant ways until they have the power and ability to move and direct people to more gross and hideous behaviours.

In Australia recently, the Business Activity Statement for taxation purposes (and here and here – as decided by the Bilderbergers in 2005) and the ‘immigration debate’ have worked exceptionally well. The ‘War on Terror’ has also been of incalculable international influence (even more so than La Vey’s Satanic Bible continues to be). The rhetorical façade for George’s Presidency may be Christian, but the plan is otherwise! (And for all of the new arrangements the sheeple have adopted, it was still safer to walk the streets in the Second World War than it is now. Who owns and controls the Reserve Bank of Australia (hint, it is the same people who own the American Federal Reserve and the Bank of England)?

The emerging set of Satanic leaders is young, savvy, competent and heartless. They use debasement of their victims as a ritual of power to themselves and their Deities.

Souls and agendas are kidnapped with ease and Luciferian style. ‘Rock and Roll’ Gods and Goddesses captivate the hearts and minds of the next generation. The Alpha Lodge has taken steps to try to ensure that after the next war and here, the Tradition is maintained in the intervening centuries, before civilization, as we know it, begins again. At that time, Satanism will be in the only religion and science. The Sheeple gather for their slaughter. Multi-Billionaires increasingly sought the spiritual comfort and insider information the Satanic Alpha-Lodges could provide.

Comment: Yes! This is diabolical. And who are Lucifer´s Super-henchmen? See this video. There are more reports on illuminati satanism: Fritz Springmeyer in The Satanic Bloodlines. He describes the 13 illuminati families who are intermarried, and through the Collins family they are said to participate in Satanic sacrifices, the Rothschild family being at the top of that pyramid (13 is a holy figure in the Great Seal of the US – donated by Mayer Amschel Rothschild).

Fritz Springmayer was sentenced to 9 years in prison in 2003 for alleged participation in a bank robbery. Springmeyer and his wife have always maintained his innocence – and that he was imprisoned for his revelations on the Satanic elitist bloodlines. John Todd said he was one of the Collins bloodline. He gave a description in Springmeyers Satanic Bloodlines of an illuminati Satanic meeting.

You can hear him speaking here about illuminati Satanism: 33. degree masons declare their god to be Lucifer. Tom Collins changed his name to John Todd, became a Christian, was severely discredited – put in prison for alleged rape, where he died mysteriously. William Cooper, a naval officer, who described illuminati Luciferianism and their plans, was gunned down in front of his home by unknown persons.

http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/high-ranking-australian-satanist-on-deathbed-satanists-rule-the-world-everything-indicates-he-is-right/

Is New Oz PM Head of Satanist Lodge?

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Henry Makow – Henry Makow.com July 13, 2010

In a dramatic coup June 24 2010, Julia Gillard took over as Prime Minister from Kevin Rudd and became Australia's first female PM.

Gillard is the first PM to be unmarried and a lesbian. (She is in a relationship with Tim Mathieson - who is a "beard.") She is the first PM to be sworn in without making reference to God. (Gillard is an atheist and has no religious beliefs.)

A reader has suggested that Gillard is head of the Satanic Alpha lodge of Sydney ("Australia`s global satanic legacy and future.")

This is based on the posthumous confessions of a leading Australian Satanist "Frater 616":

"Some of the deadliest, most effective and disarming assassins are women. Within the Alpha Lodges they are worshipped as embodiments of the Dark Goddess - who is known by many names and is virgin still! Currently the Outer Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia is a very highly placed and successful Federal politician - whose Satanic name is Bestia."

We asked Aloysius Fozdyke, (the man who brought Frater 616's testimony to the world,) to comment. He is a member of the Alpha Lodge and we assume acts with their authorization.


His reply on the "Bestia"- Julia Gillard connection: " I'd rather not comment at this stage."

Our reader continues, "there is only one female politician in Australia who fits "Frater 616"`s allusions to a "t"; and that person is Julia Gillard."

He says, "a closer study of photos of Julia Gillard (as well as ... European High Commissioner Herman van Rompuy, btw) clearly point to psycho-pathological traits - in Ms Gillard`s case those of the sadistic personality type. I would therefore venture the claim that Ms. Gillard is not only "a communist lesbian", but that she is in fact the head of the Satanic Alpha lodge - the "Bestia" mentioned by Frater 616; and the very person whose predilection is ritual child abuse."

Our reader continues:"In the same manner as Mr. van Rompuy has been placed at the very epicentre of European power (by his handlers Brzezinski and Kissinger; who "just happened to dine with him" in Belgium, on the very night of his election in November 2009.)"

"Ms. Gillard has now been placed in control of the south-east Asian region, quite possibly in preparation for the soon-to-be implementation of specific "new rules of societal conduct"...to be dictated by these very circles."

"Please also note these further clues: 1) Ms. Gillard is childless; although she obviously "enjoys" (as previous minister of education) concerning herself with children, she does not (as stated in an ABC interview of 2009) "especially like them".

"2) Ms. Gillard is "an atheist". Oh really? this might not be wholly dishonest, but actually a half-truth: if Ms. Gillard`s master is Satan ("the lord of this world"), as I would suggest, then she is -true to her beliefs- simply "hiding" this fact "in plain sight", as Satanists are wont to do.

"3) Ms. Gillard came to power very suddenly and in a most conniving "unusual" fashion; this would seem to point to hidden strings being pulled; strings such as those found in secret societies and brought to bear at the crucial time - and with deadly force. Further "enjoyment" is then drawn from the distress and shock of the opponent; in our case from the tearful downfall of Kevin Rudd (who would seem as decent a human being as they come, in the guise of politicians anyway.)

4) Ms Gillard is currently the only "highly placed and successful federal (female) politician"...her curriculum vitae, her views, as well as her highly suspect private life and "preferences" fit Frater 616`s description perfectly. all said, I`m sure that by following this admittedly still rather basic line of enquiry, others (perhaps more at home in Australian politics) will be able to add further evidence to my thesis.

In conclusion, the thesis that Gillard is the Head of an important Satanic Lodge is consistent with the claims made by both Frater 616 and Fozdyke that leading members of society, especially politicians, are Satanists. The fact that Fozdyke declines to comment is significant.

Here is the rest of the original article by "Matt" on Gillard. She certainly fits the profile in light of the occult and satanic roots of Communism and Lesbianism:

She was sworn in by Australia's first female Governor General (Quentin Bryce.) Bryce has held numerous high offices with the aim of advancing women's and "minority" rights at the expense of the Australia's European majority. Bryce's daughter is married to Bill Shorten who was pivotal in binging Gillard into the office of PM.

When she was at high school, Gillard was mentored by the Jewish liberal (i.e. Communist) Marlene Pilowski. When she moved to Melbourne to attend university, she became the Education Vice President of the left wing (i.e. Communist) AUS (Australian Union of Students), and later was its President.

Gillard was in the Socialist Forum from her university days. The forum's objectives were to create a socialist / feminist society through Labor governments. It originally consisted of ex-members of the Victorian branch of the Communist Party and some ALP members. Gillard was one of the two original paid organizers of the Forum. She wrote numerous documents for the Socialist Forum including 'Being a Socialist Teacher' and 'Future Directions of the Left'. It was also through the Forum that she met Labor heavy-weight Joan Kirner and worked closely with her on Labor's Affirmative Action Plan. Gillard wrote the constitution for the pro-abortion feminist organization EMILY's List (in Australia), which supports "progressive" Labor women.

In 2006, when in opposition, Gillard voted for legalizing the abortion pill RU486 and for stem cell research, which both became law. In March 2010, when she was Education Minister, Senator Ron Boswell said that "Julia Gillard's new [education] curriculum reads like a learners manual for international socialism".

As PM, Gillard has tried to assuage Australians by painting herself as a moderate. She has also distanced herself from Rudd, who had become the fall-guy for a bad government. Gillard however should take more blame as she was one of the "gang of 4" that made the decisions. She was directly behind the Building Education Revolution (BER) scandal over building unneeded overpriced schhools.

In less than three years, the Labor Government has gone from a 20 billion dollar surplus (left by Howard) to 148 billion debt, and is borrowing an extra $150 million every day. The common theme in Federal and state politics is that Labor governments create massive debt, and the Conservatives (Liberal / National party governments) pay that debt off. The main point though is missed - governments shouldn't be borrowing or repaying money from off-shore lenders in the first place.

Before holding the next general election (probably this year), Gillard wll have to straighten out 3 key policy areas. She compromised on the mining tax, which was originally introduced by Rudd to pay off debt. With her dodgy projection figures, she claimed it would bring the budget back into the black, but this is unlikely.

The second issue, that of the "boat people". Boat arrivals have increased at over 50 times the rate under Howard because of Rudd's loose regulations. Boat people are considered queue jumpers. Gillard said that they will be processed in East Timor although there is no centre there. She is ignoring the centre already built at Nauru. Gusmao, the PM of East Timor claims he wasn't consulted and didn't want a centre in his country.

The third issue is the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS.) Rudd initially pushed it hard, but it was defeated in the Senate. The average Australian didn't really understand what it was, but many have since woken up that it is essentially a big expense which will effect ordinary people. The ETS is not about saving the environment so much as social change and the redistribution of wealth.

Gillard who has painted herself to be a bit of a non-scary moderate, is red at the centre. The media distracts and woos the dumb masses with news about about her latest haircuts, etc (her gay boyfriend Mathieson is a hairdresser.) It is her aim however to re-engineer society, but years of the Left's influence in Labor governments, education and the media has already done that.

As PM, Gillard just looks like another version of Rudd. Pretending to listen to the people, she instead pushes the NWO agenda. Being a non-religious 50 year old woman in a de-facto relationship is nothing unusual in Australia anymore. Gillard simply mirrors what Australia already is, while helping to push it ever closer to extinction in the name of "tolerance."

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/oldsite/article.asp?ID=13043

PS - Here is one Solution to the 'JuLIAR Gillard' Problem..!

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Amysenthia
13th November 2011, 18:52
Great material Jackovesk. If you read the thread that I posted today, I sat through an 11 hour lecture by David Icke yesterday. He just came from an Australian tour last week and he talked about the Australian PM during his lecture. His info corroborates everything you present here. He then went on to discuss how the whole network of how the Satanists/Illuminati/Zionists are preparing to start WWIII within the next year.

Seikou-Kishi
13th November 2011, 19:09
Excellent article, but Communist lesbian?

norman
13th November 2011, 19:24
Excellent article, but Communist lesbian?

I think it's just a term of sexist disgust for a person who is seriously anti-family and healthy procreation of families. More of an 'alarm' call than a flat condemnation of those in any family that will never reproduce or fully aspire to manage their own 'family'.

Just my 2 cents, hope I don't need a flame suit now :)

WhiteFeather
13th November 2011, 19:30
Satan Doesn't Exist In My Vortex, This Entity Never Did. Thanks Anyways For Sharing OP!

Sidney
13th November 2011, 19:33
I don't doubt it. Its, disturbing to read on one page how ascension is happening, and everything will be "lovely", yet all around us is sheer evil.

vibrations
13th November 2011, 19:55
Came in mind the procedures how the iluminati education is based in torture of the children to kill any human emotions inside them, to be confused about their own sexuality and use it as a ritual fulfillment of their dark believes. Following this, Gilliard is an example by the book. Everything fits. Thanks Jackovesk.

Maia Gabrial
13th November 2011, 20:45
Isn't it nice to know that Satanists CAN'T escape death? Thankfully, that they won't last forever? Or that they'll never avoid the Karma they've heaped onto their own souls? That they've been shamefully degrading themselves more than their victims? And the biggest thing of all is that nothing they've done has gone unnoticed by the Supreme Creator, all of the spiritually advanced beings, like the Angelic hosts and our cosmic cousins. EVERYTHING, from behind closed doors to dark hidden places, was always being watched by the higher ups. I just wonder how they'll feel when the rest of humanity finally knows what they've been up to....?
My hope is that humanity does raise in consciousness and becomes telepathic. Then there'll be no more hidden secrets from anyone.... That will be the EQUALIZER...

Jonathon
13th November 2011, 21:03
I don't doubt it. Its, disturbing to read on one page how ascension is happening, and everything will be "lovely", yet all around us is sheer evil.

I understand what you mean starchild111. I would say, however, that every force has it's equal and opposite or stabilizing reaction, so in a sense, it's rational to assume that the greater one thing is polarized, the greater it's antagonist is also polarized. Part of the problem seems to be capitalizing on that energetic potential (on our end). There's no doubt an awakening is happening - and this is the proverbial ball in our court. "They" are counting on us not accessing our potential. That's the part that makes me uneasy - I'm pretty sure we AREN'T even close to utilizing our full potential, though I can feel some of that potential pinned up, waiting to unleash - I think most of us do. I think that's what we all "feel coming" - the curtain is about to open and the anticipation of filling the roles we are destined to fill creates great sub-conscious angst. So many of us here express this angst in a variety of ways on this very forum (argument, fear, all around testy behavior etc). I had to get away from it for a while before I could come back. That being said, I don't think we volunteered for this because it was going to be easy (why else would this group of wanderer, walk-in and star seeds have shown up to beef up the line? Competition must be fierce as heck). It's damn near put-up or shut-up time. Are we ready? It's going to be quite a show. Game-on.

shamanseeker
13th November 2011, 21:14
Satan Doesn't Exist In My Vortex, This Entity Never Did. Thanks Anyways For Sharing OP!


Hi Whitefeather,

A lot of people say that but just because "The Devil" does not exist does not mean that Satanism and Satanists don't exist. Satanists and the churches (a lot of satanists in them) have very craftily represented evil with a ridiculous "Satan" figure on purpose in order to protect themselves from being stopped from carrying out these evil deeds.

Sidney
13th November 2011, 22:04
I don't doubt it. Its, disturbing to read on one page how ascension is happening, and everything will be "lovely", yet all around us is sheer evil.

I understand what you mean starchild111. I would say, however, that every force has it's equal and opposite or stabilizing reaction, so in a sense, it's rational to assume that the greater one thing is polarized, the greater it's antagonist is also polarized. Part of the problem seems to be capitalizing on that energetic potential (on our end). There's no doubt an awakening is happening - and this is the proverbial ball in our court. "They" are counting on us not accessing our potential. That's the part that makes me uneasy - I'm pretty sure we AREN'T even close to utilizing our full potential, though I can feel some of that potential pinned up, waiting to unleash - I think most of us do. I think that's what we all "feel coming" - the curtain is about to open and the anticipation of filling the roles we are destined to fill creates great sub-conscious angst. So many of us here express this angst in a variety of ways on this very forum (argument, fear, all around testy behavior etc). I had to get away from it for a while before I could come back. That being said, I don't think we volunteered for this because it was going to be easy (why else would this group of wanderer, walk-in and star seeds have shown up to beef up the line? Competition must be fierce as heck). It's damn near put-up or shut-up time. Are we ready? It's going to be quite a show. Game-on.

I love that!!! Thank-you for the reminder!!!:happy::grouphug:

58andfixed
13th November 2011, 22:54
Thanks jackovesk for digging this up.

The pieces are few, and ignoring this aspect of reality is a denial that will contribute to "The Problem" continuing to be experienced by the 99%.

So far, some of the contributors to this reality have been:

- John Todd
- Fritz Springmeier
- Doc Marquis
- Carroll Quigley
- Adam Weishaupt
- Henry Makow
- Cathy O'Brien
- Brianna Pruett

Of course, I'm but a mortal plebe, and what little I recall of what I've been exposed to represents but a small representation of a huge phenomenon.

To get the mind to a good place with positive attitudes and experience, I believe it to be a good exercise to be familiar with the dark side, rather than ignoring or denying it.

More gory reality at:

http://www.henrymakow.com/

"Sandusky Part of Illuminati Pedophile Network"

November 15, 2011
By Hayden Fox
(henrymakow.com)

"The Penn State-Jerry Sandusky scandal may just be getting started. Undisclosed allegations implicate Sandusky in a massive homosexual pedophile ring. Powerful Penn State sports donors may be investigated - and that list includes powerful politicians."

"The Penn State scandal is part of a worldwide Illuminati pedophile network where powerful homosexuals prey on vulnerable youths. This includes the Franklin Cover-Up (1988-1991) where boys from Omaha Nebraska's Boys Town were trafficked to Washington politicians."

"It includes the 1996 Detroux Affair in Brussels when a sex predator serial killer implicated much of the Belgian elite and many European aristocrats."

"It includes the Casa Pia scandal. Casa Pia is state orphanage in Portugal. Witnesses broke silence in 2004. Since then 800 witnesses came forward in the longest trial in Portuguese history. Several elite members were convicted last year of involvement with a pedophile ring dating back several decades."

"The convicted included Portuguese TV anchorman Carlos Cruz, former Casa Pia governor Manuel Abrantes, and former UNESCO ambassador Jorge Ritto."


- 58

jorr lundstrom
14th November 2011, 05:09
John Todd whistleblowing on Illuminati before he disappeared


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4797172096740150104&hl=en

jackovesk
14th November 2011, 05:22
Great material Jackovesk. If you read the thread that I posted today, I sat through an 11 hour lecture by David Icke yesterday. He just came from an Australian tour last week and he talked about the Australian PM during his lecture. His info corroborates everything you present here. He then went on to discuss how the whole network of how the Satanists/Illuminati/Zionists are preparing to start WWIII within the next year.

Exactly Amysenthia,

I got more timely Answers on what is 'Really Going in This World' from this, which is probably the best David Icke/Alex Jones interview to date!

Their is some 'Real Rolled Gold Truth' in this one..! And was the 'Catalyst' for this very Thread...

Summary of Interview:



"Satanists (Feed Off - Energy)! They want 'Human Energy' from 'Children' before Puberty takes Place hence: Pedofilia, Chlid Sacrifice, this has been going on for Centuries (The Church of Babylon Re-Located)!

Satanic Members control the most Powerful Positions in Politics, Police, Councils, Churches, Health Depts, Crematoriums, they Control "Every Single Base in order to 'Cover Their Tracks)..!"


Definately will be listening to this again...

David Icke is totally 'Head & Shoulders' above ALL the rest in his field by a proverbial 'Country Mile'..!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6aItiHx5s&feature=player_embedded

PS - Strangely enough Alex Jones knows only too well the 'David Icke' is right on the money with his Theories...

RedeZra
14th November 2011, 06:02
not only does Satan exist

and is worshiped by the PTB

but the Father has sent a cloud of confusion

to those that deny His Son


so those who don't love truth

shall fall for lies


shall fall with Satan


this is serious business folks

wake up

modwiz
14th November 2011, 06:19
not only does Satan exist

and is worshiped by the PTB

but the Father has sent a cloud of confusion

to those that deny His Son


so those who don't love truth

shall fall for lies


shall fall with Satan


this is serious business folks

wake up

Jesus showed people how to deal with "Satan'. You decline. You can throw a little scripture in for good effect when it makes the holy books later in history too.

The interesting side story to this scenario is it shows the thoughts Jesus was having. It wouldn't have been temptation if the offers weren't 'tempting'.

161803398
14th November 2011, 06:38
I experienced a witch hunt mentality in the 80s when every man and his dog was a suspected child molester. The problem with witch hunts is that once a finger is pointed at the accused he/she is guilty until proven innocent rather than the other way around. Satanists seem to know a lot of street tricks. It would be good for people to have a few lessons. I always think people should join the carnival for a while to find out how the government and other evil entities operate.

161803398
14th November 2011, 06:56
All you need to do to get people to believe a lot of bull**** is to break down their belief system. That has already happened. In many ways, that can good thing but it can also be dangerous...depending on what happens next.

So, I suppose, something like bombing the world trade centre, then telling outrageous lies about it, could be thought of as a good way to steer people in this direction if that is what you are aiming to do....or a known side effect of the main purpose.

Satanists are dangerous con artists.

Another good one: America helps Al Qaeda take over Libya. That's pretty mind cracking.

Pretty soon people are running around pointing fingers and calling each other devils, crucifying cats and God knows what.

I do believe the Satanists deliberately create negative energy. This year on May day eve, an occult holiday, someone, supposedly Bin Laden, was murdered. It was the same day that Hitler supposedly committed suicide although it was more likely some poor schmuck in his place. The year before, apparently, was an animal sacrifice year and in the thirteen day holiday leading up to May day, there was the Gulf Oil disaster. These things cannot just be coincidentally timed. I don't think that as a matter of statistics that is very likely. So, I do think that the world, at the moment, is in the hands of very evil people. The question is how people will react when this realization comes to greater numbers. I saw what happened in the 80s and it was a mess, because people turned on themselves.

Godiam
14th November 2011, 07:21
Satan Doesn't Exist In My Vortex, This Entity Never Did. Thanks Anyways For Sharing OP!

Thanks WhiteFeather, I'm with you here...... If, as I am led to believe, our thoughts create our reality, then focusing on the (perceived) negatives only feeds the fear! I subscibe to the motto "IT'S ALL GOOD" as that is what I choose to create in my reality! My concept of God is pure unconditional LOVE, and as an extension of that, even if Satan exists, then God has only LOVE for this entity!! even though I don't subscribe to the concept of a devil as such!!

Here is a couple of lines from a poem I wrote several years ago......
The devil s the EGO, inside of you...
The EGO telling you what to do....

I have a favourite T Shirt that says IT'S ALL GOOD, and another that says THOUGHTS BECOME THINGS..... CHOOSE THE GOOD ONES! I try to live by these simple rules and I sometimes suceed, and sometimes that EGO thing gets in the way!

HUGS...... Godiam

RedeZra
14th November 2011, 07:25
but the Father has sent a cloud of confusion

to those that deny His Son


so those who don't love truth

shall fall for lies


shall fall with Satan



Jesus showed people how to deal with "Satan'.



says who ? i hope you don't think that was His only purpose


you don't fancy that those who deny the Creator on the Cross

has in it's place purchased confusion and loss


this is not me saying out of my own head or gut but Scripture


and when we start to cherry pick Scripture or ignore it all together then we will believe anything

Scripture has been preserved by the blood of the martyrs so it stands like a rock to testify to the future an important piece of the past


toss the Book out and we leave the rock and sink in quagmire or quicksand

point is we sink and fall from truth like 'the father of lies'

modwiz
14th November 2011, 07:27
but the Father has sent a cloud of confusion

to those that deny His Son


so those who don't love truth

shall fall for lies


shall fall with Satan



Jesus showed people how to deal with "Satan'.



says who ? i hope you don't think that was His only purpose


you don't fancy that those who deny the Creator on the Cross

has in it's place purchased confusion and loss


this is not me saying out of my own head or gut but Scripture


and when we start to cherry pick Scripture or ignore it all together then we will believe anything

Scripture has been preserved by the blood of the martyrs so it stands like a rock to testify to the future an important piece of the past


toss the Book out and we leave the rock and sink in quagmire or quicksand

point is we sink and fall from truth like 'the father of lies'

OK. With regard to my full post.Thinking people got it. Reading people get stuck. Typical of bible quoters, you only used a portion of my post, the part you needed to make whatever point you were attempting to make.

Ixopoborn
14th November 2011, 07:28
I don't doubt it. Its, disturbing to read on one page how ascension is happening, and everything will be "lovely", yet all around us is sheer evil.

Yes indeed. Highly ambivalent times in which we live. No time for Avalonians to slack. We must keep those intently thoughts and actions going without relent until the controllers/satanists are forced into capitulation.

RedeZra
14th November 2011, 07:45
Typical of bible quoters,...

thnx very much this i take as a compliment ; )


a word to the wise

those with ears to hear


wanna know what's going on in the world ?

pick up the Book and start reading

modwiz
14th November 2011, 07:58
Typical of bible quoters,...

thnx very much this i take as a compliment ; )


a word to the wise

those with ears to hear


wanna know what's going on in the world ?

pick up the Book and start reading

Again? How many times? Each time it was harder than the time before. It was a phase. Please, do what Spirit moves you to do. I found the words of the one identified as Jesus absolute genius and a key to many mansions. The path is narrow and there is only room for one at a time. It is a personal journey we make. The Kingdom of Heaven arrives when there are subjects enough to fill it. It is at hand, and has been, for a couple of thousand years, at least. It does not appear because there are not enough people yet. They will find the answer in their hearts not in books. Every line in a book points to our hearts.

So, in closing. You are arrogant to assume I have not read this material. Your admonition to pick up a book and start reading is not very polite. Perhaps you should find a book on manners.

161803398
14th November 2011, 08:01
One of the most dangerous mind sets in the world is the "presumption of normalcy". You can get led right down the garden path with that one. Its fine to say the devil doesn't exist in my world (I don't happen to believe there is an actual devil either) but you have to look around at the world and see what is going on. And one of the things going on is Satanists, unfortunately for us. To this people sometimes have an overreaction, that is to say, they presume that evil people are necessarily intelligent and that is not the case. They do however have a lot of money and that is a situation that must be corrected.

For those of you who don't believe in evil...call it an imbalance. Too much yang? or yin? I don't remember which is which. We need a detox.

Carmody
14th November 2011, 08:02
The Sermon on the Mount and the Dhammapada

http://www.epinions.com/content_3122241668

modwiz
14th November 2011, 08:09
The Sermon on the Mount and the Dhammapada

http://www.epinions.com/content_3122241668

I went to the site you posted. Very good, brief, comparison of very good ideas. Catholicism even took the Buddhists up on the concept of monks and nuns. They were already established in Alexandria by the time of the Gospels and even before that.

Thanks for the link.

161803398
14th November 2011, 08:11
The Sermon on the Mount and the Dhammapada

http://www.epinions.com/content_3122241668

Yeah, but he didn't do that himself in one case. He got pretty pissed at those money lenders and I think he called them satanists. I don't think we have to love them.

jorr lundstrom
14th November 2011, 08:31
Great material Jackovesk. If you read the thread that I posted today, I sat through an 11 hour lecture by David Icke yesterday. He just came from an Australian tour last week and he talked about the Australian PM during his lecture. His info corroborates everything you present here. He then went on to discuss how the whole network of how the Satanists/Illuminati/Zionists are preparing to start WWIII within the next year.

Exactly Amysenthia,

I got more timely Answers on what is 'Really Going in This World' from this, which is probably the best David Icke/Alex Jones interview to date!

Their is some 'Real Rolled Gold Truth' in this one..! And was the 'Catalyst' for this very Thread...

Summary of Interview:



"Satanists (Feed Off - Energy)! They want 'Human Energy' from 'Children' before Puberty takes Place hence: Pedofilia, Chlid Sacrifice, this has been going on for Centuries (The Church of Babylon Re-Located)!

Satanic Members control the most Powerful Positions in Politics, Police, Councils, Churches, Health Depts, Crematoriums, they Control "Every Single Base in order to 'Cover Their Tracks)..!"


Definately will be listening to this again...

David Icke is totally 'Head & Shoulders' above ALL the rest in his field by a proverbial 'Country Mile'..!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6aItiHx5s&feature=player_embedded

PS - Strangely enough Alex Jones knows only too well the 'David Icke' is right on the money with his Theories...

Adrenal chrome, said to be the most expensive recrutional drog in the world.

It is produced by really scaring the s""t out of young children, then kill them and

tapping the drog by inserting a syringe into the pineal gland. It is one of the

thing the elite get out of their sacrifice rites.

500 000 humans disappear in Europe each year, without any traces.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y4RtVcFnOY&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWgLvgEQAhA&feature=player_embedded

RedeZra
14th November 2011, 08:35
a word to the wise

those with ears to hear


wanna know what's going on in the world ?

pick up the Book and start reading

Again? How many times? Each time it was harder than the time before. It was a phase. Please, do what Spirit moves you to do.

You are arrogant to assume I have not read this material. Your admonition to pick up a book and start reading is not very polite. Perhaps you should find a book on manners.

i was not referring specifically to you

but if you want to take it personal then so be it


and again i am not arrogant but confident ; )

Maria Stade
14th November 2011, 08:45
Here is some more on the drug

https://indianinthemachine.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/secret-illuminati-human-sacrifice-drug-adrenalchrome-adrenal-chromaffin/

jorr lundstrom
14th November 2011, 08:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvBmuOiP4-4

ajyana
14th November 2011, 08:53
i saw an entity thats looks exactly like what peoples described as a devil some ten years ago, standing outside a small christian church.

i was on the bus looking outside the window and saw that red "man", i didn't see a tail with an arrow at the end or any fur, but the feet is more like goat feet, the mostly remember thing was the color of it, its just like the red of the sealing wax, with a bit gloss not totally matt on surface. its a solid/physical form, not blur, no mist/smoke/fog anything like that around.

i was thinking its a statues or some display, but outside a church? even a satan church will not dare to do that huh? and it didn't look like a movie set, 'casue saw no crews, camera or stuffs around...

i'll still pass by that area once a while, but i can't even find the church...

well, the whole thing don't bother me much, and i'm not scare at all (weird?), nothing bad happen to me afterwards, just hesitant to tell anybody even my family. and i think most of the members here will...understand sould i say.:o

jackovesk
14th November 2011, 08:55
http://www.sl-webs.com/custimages/dd395-Horns%20(site).jpg

modwiz
14th November 2011, 09:04
a word to the wise

those with ears to hear


wanna know what's going on in the world ?

pick up the Book and start reading

Again? How many times? Each time it was harder than the time before. It was a phase. Please, do what Spirit moves you to do.

You are arrogant to assume I have not read this material. Your admonition to pick up a book and start reading is not very polite. Perhaps you should find a book on manners.

i was not referring specifically to you

but if you want to take it personal then so be it


and again i am not arrogant but confident ; )

So, you are saying you are confident that I am unacquainted and have not read the material you refer to? There is a word for being confident when one is incorrect. That word is ignorant. You do not strike me as ignorant. So perhaps the first guess of mine was closer to the truth, but since you were not speaking to me specifically, this whole issue can be dropped as we both go in peace. I know you feel the need to pursue a mission of informing. It is not my intention, neither will it be my action, to impede that course.

Your overall civility is appreciated.

RedeZra
14th November 2011, 09:31
I know you feel the need to pursue a mission of informing. It is not my intention, neither will it be my action, to impede that course.

Your overall civility is appreciated.

Peace be upon you child of God


i am a watchman on the wall

and i will not be silent


the work might be done

but i will speak til the end


God bless you

eric charles
14th November 2011, 13:19
im sorry but Jay-z is no satanist , this is a good guy on our side my friends . This man was born and raised in one of New Yorks worst ghettos , called the Marcy Projects ! if you dont know what a project is look it up , this guy is aware of what is going on and tries to raise our awareness of what is going on !! Look it up in his interviews . he is against the illuminists !!

shamanseeker
14th November 2011, 14:13
Satan Doesn't Exist In My Vortex, This Entity Never Did. Thanks Anyways For Sharing OP!

Thanks WhiteFeather, I'm with you here...... If, as I am led to believe, our thoughts create our reality, then focusing on the (perceived) negatives only feeds the fear! I subscibe to the motto "IT'S ALL GOOD" as that is what I choose to create in my reality! My concept of God is pure unconditional LOVE, and as an extension of that, even if Satan exists, then God has only LOVE for this entity!! even though I don't subscribe to the concept of a devil as such!!

Here is a couple of lines from a poem I wrote several years ago......
The devil s the EGO, inside of you...
The EGO telling you what to do....

I have a favourite T Shirt that says IT'S ALL GOOD, and another that says THOUGHTS BECOME THINGS..... CHOOSE THE GOOD ONES! I try to live by these simple rules and I sometimes suceed, and sometimes that EGO thing gets in the way!

HUGS...... Godiam


Hi,
The problem with this though is that while people are ignoring what's happening, babies, children and young adults are disappearing by the thousands, being tortured and killed. The PTB get away with it just because people don't want to believe it or ignore it.

Lord Sidious
14th November 2011, 14:25
Hi,
The problem with this though is that while people are ignoring what's happening, babies, children and young adults are disappearing by the thousands, being tortured and killed. The PTB get away with it just because people don't want to believe it or ignore it.

It's not my business, I don't wanna get involved.
Until it's my kids.
Too late then.

Godiam
14th November 2011, 19:16
Satan Doesn't Exist In My Vortex, This Entity Never Did. Thanks Anyways For Sharing OP!

Thanks WhiteFeather, I'm with you here...... If, as I am led to believe, our thoughts create our reality, then focusing on the (perceived) negatives only feeds the fear! I subscibe to the motto "IT'S ALL GOOD" as that is what I choose to create in my reality! My concept of God is pure unconditional LOVE, and as an extension of that, even if Satan exists, then God has only LOVE for this entity!! even though I don't subscribe to the concept of a devil as such!!

Here is a couple of lines from a poem I wrote several years ago......
The devil s the EGO, inside of you...
The EGO telling you what to do....

I have a favourite T Shirt that says IT'S ALL GOOD, and another that says THOUGHTS BECOME THINGS..... CHOOSE THE GOOD ONES! I try to live by these simple rules and I sometimes suceed, and sometimes that EGO thing gets in the way!

HUGS...... Godiam


Hi,
The problem with this though is that while people are ignoring what's happening, babies, children and young adults are disappearing by the thousands, being tortured and killed. The PTB get away with it just because people don't want to believe it or ignore it.

I understand what you're saying, but I think in the big picture way..... where I believe that we (as extensions of the mind of creation) choose what we will experience in any given lifetime, and that even the baddies are just playing a role, that is beyond our comprehension while we are trapped in duality thinking!

We can choose to get all emotional about events we perceive as bad, but I also believe (as stated in A Course In Miracles) that........

NOTHING REAL CAN BE THREATENED....
NOTHING UNREAL EXISTS!!

I choose to focus on the light side of things!

HUGS.....Godiam

Carmody
14th November 2011, 23:27
Please understand that what is behind them is not Omnipotent.

Not even close.

Simple logic dictates that if this force or whatever was omnipotent, then there would be no struggle.

Period.

Basic simple logic.

This means they can be stopped. Drop the fear and move forward...and they don't stand a chance.

Your basic problem comes from the fears and unbelief, unbelief that lies within the general public - that such a thing could even exist.

Yet it does.

It engages in fear and psychological button pushing tactics. The kind that armies and people have known and used for centuries/millennia. Intimidation tactics.

They have to work through humans, as they themselves are not exactly 'here'.

This is their weak point. It is also the reason they go after 'people' the way they do. If you are awake and aware, this can indeed pose a problem for them. For they rely upon weak humans to do their bidding.

To top it off, the weak humans they use to do their bidding are not literate at the highest levels of incarnation or dimensional knowledge. Awake and aware high level incarnates would never go near these entities.

We are dealing with the weaker parts of human incarnates, not the best. Not by a long shot.

~~~~~~

The other thing is to understand that they always sneak up on their members. their members are brought into the system by lying, trickery, coercion, bribery and murder, extortion etc.

via this, they have created a large hidden network.

OK.

You have a large hidden network.

All of this....means they are weak, not strong.

For if they where strong, they would not need to do it that way... and they would not need to hide it ...and they would not need to do such horrible things --to gain adherents and control.

Would they?

So, a note to some readers... stop cowering and show yourself and the world your strength.

Understand the simple basic logic of the above post I have made.

My frustration and feeling of loss comes not from the bad side of things but the seeming inability of people to get the message ---and wake up.

modwiz
14th November 2011, 23:54
im sorry but Jay-z is no satanist , this is a good guy on our side my friends . This man was born and raised in one of New Yorks worst ghettos , called the Marcy Projects ! if you dont know what a project is look it up , this guy is aware of what is going on and tries to raise our awareness of what is going on !! Look it up in his interviews . he is against the illuminists !!

Jay-Z is a Mason. It cannot be repeated often enough the the majority of Masons are just members of a fraternity, and usually do good works in their communities. It is the very upper level Masons that get caught mucking things up. David Icke makes this point regularly as do some others who make a career out of pointing the finger at Masons.

Maria Stade
15th November 2011, 00:03
Hi,
The problem with this though is that while people are ignoring what's happening, babies, children and young adults are disappearing by the thousands, being tortured and killed. The PTB get away with it just because people don't want to believe it or ignore it.

I understand what you're saying, but I think in the big picture way..... where I believe that we (as extensions of the mind of creation) choose what we will experience in any given lifetime, and that even the baddies are just playing a role, that is beyond our comprehension while we are trapped in duality thinking!

We can choose to get all emotional about events we perceive as bad, but I also believe (as stated in A Course In Miracles) that........

NOTHING REAL CAN BE THREATENED....
NOTHING UNREAL EXISTS!!

I choose to focus on the light side of things!

HUGS.....Godiam

I agree here.... they are as I see it here to push our limits so that we can evolve !
I saw a horrible move once about a girl getting killed and the father discovered that she was killed by a man of power and that this was done often to other kids to.... in the end he was with the killer and asked WHY ....???? The answer was BECAUSE I CAN !

And the cold fact is they do this because they can and we let them !

As long as people give the power to this humans that is guided by arcontic influece They will do is Because they can.

They can call them selves what ever they like they are just GLOBAL CRIMINALS and weak humans !

Carmody
15th November 2011, 00:17
im sorry but Jay-z is no satanist , this is a good guy on our side my friends . This man was born and raised in one of New Yorks worst ghettos , called the Marcy Projects ! if you dont know what a project is look it up , this guy is aware of what is going on and tries to raise our awareness of what is going on !! Look it up in his interviews . he is against the illuminists !!

Jay-Z is a Mason. It cannot be repeated often enough the the majority of Masons are just members of a fraternity, and usually do good works in their communities. It is the very upper level Masons that get caught mucking things up. David Icke makes this point regularly as do some others who make a career out of pointing the finger at Masons.

Yes, true. I have family members who are masons... and some people I know are masons.

They are all good people, trying to do good in this world.

Maria Stade
15th November 2011, 00:19
im sorry but Jay-z is no satanist , this is a good guy on our side my friends . This man was born and raised in one of New Yorks worst ghettos , called the Marcy Projects ! if you dont know what a project is look it up , this guy is aware of what is going on and tries to raise our awareness of what is going on !! Look it up in his interviews . he is against the illuminists !!

Jay-Z is a Mason. It cannot be repeated often enough the the majority of Masons are just members of a fraternity, and usually do good works in their communities. It is the very upper level Masons that get caught mucking things up. David Icke makes this point regularly as do some others who make a career out of pointing the finger at Masons.

Thank you ModWiz ! I heard a cuple years ago that they actually have been split in 2 .
As I got it one is with NOW agenda and the other are more Mystic and spiritulal and in to self development !
So I think it is important today to understand that we must see beyond the symbols and see the man /woman and the action they take !

If a basket with apples have some rotten ones, you just remove the bad ones.

And if you dont they WILL make the others to go bad to.

norman
15th November 2011, 00:30
Jay-Z is a Mason. It cannot be repeated often enough the the majority of Masons are just members of a fraternity, and usually do good works in their communities. It is the very upper level Masons that get caught mucking things up. David Icke makes this point regularly as do some others who make a career out of pointing the finger at Masons.

Thank you ModWiz ! I heard a cuple years ago that they actually have been split in 2 .
As I got it one is with NOW agenda and the other are more Mystic and spiritulal and in to self development !
So I think it is important today to understand that we must see beyond the symbols and see the man /woman and the action they take !

If a basket with apples have some rotten ones, you just remove the bad ones.

And if you dont they WILL make the others to go bad to.

Yea, I know masons around here who haven't got a clue what's going on. They're still dazzled by the glow of having their hand in the sweety jar and getting away with it.

I think that's just the induction stage to get them used to the idea that they will get away with anything.

Maria Stade
15th November 2011, 01:13
The thing is people are not informed and they think they are doing good and support a good thing but things are not as they seems and the time has come to drag out the skeletons ....

People need to start supporting right things !

They like to save the world but do they ever investigate where the money goes ?? and how they are used ? NO
Every year lots of children like to do something good for the planet and make big money to this ...

(hit CC below in the list if you cant see any English text)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mfb03NpsnwI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPO6n1BbVrI&feature=related

jackovesk
15th November 2011, 02:07
David Icke's Explosive Interview On Australian National Mainstream Radio

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/images/triplej.gif


http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1341959381084&id=44d891a442e465cc351d65671178830b&url=http%3a%2f%2f20gramsoul.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2007%2f07%2ffatherbob_safran.gif.....http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1304245317394&id=629ab3bc8686bd3ccfb7490d7a900481&url=http%3a%2f%2fevolvingbeings.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2011%2f06%2fdavid-icke.jpg


David Icke:

"One of the interviewers - 'Father Bob', a really nice guy - to be sacked from his parish by the Roman Church"

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/father-bob-fumes-pull-the-bloody-trigger-for-gods-sake-20111104-1mz4v.html

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/images/triplej.gif

(Short) Interview Starts @ 6mins - Ends @ 34mins

Triple J Podcast:

Link: David Icke Interview - Sunday 6th Nov 2011 (http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/triplej/safran/safran_2011_11_06.mp3)

PS - I'm a Huge Fan of Father Bob Maguire (Champion of the 'Aussie Battlers') he is the 'Epitome' of a what a 'Real Catholic Priest' should be...


Disclaimer:

The 'Interview' does'nt cover the 'Church of Satan' and both John & Bob are more interested in mocking the 'Lizards' rather than 'Listening' to the 'Truth'...

Nothing of Substance here, ONLY Download if 'Curious'...

Enjoy...

taurad
18th November 2011, 03:03
The next Shuttle off the planet Earth departs in 120 sec...

ALL ABOARD...

A reminder about personal belongings...Please, leave everything behind!!!

Don't need any of this super-crap at your Final Destination>>>

Have a Great One Way Trip!!!

DNA
18th November 2011, 13:13
Hey Jack, I just want to say I appreciate you putting the time in, reading up and giving the scoop. :)


For me the term satanist is a tad bit cloudy.
Because,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I don't believe in satan.
Satan didn't even come from Judaisim, the archetype came from zoroastrianism.

But I do believe in entities, I do believe in the astral and intelligent non-organic beings making their presense felt in the physical.

Do these NWO order elites believe iin satanism per se?

Maria Stade
23rd November 2011, 03:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7_-giCCerg&feature=related