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panopticon
14th November 2011, 14:06
G'day All,

The 2011 Sydney Peace Prize was awarded to Noam Chomsky in early November.
A transcript of his Sydney Peace Prize Lecture is available here (http://sydneypeaceblog.org/2011/11/03/2011-city-of-sydney-peace-prize-lecture-by-prof-noam-chomsky/).

Below is his acceptance speech. Video of his lecture has not been released yet (as far as I can find anyway).


On Thursday 3rd November, Australia's Father of Reconciliation and 2008 Recipient of the Sydney Peace Prize, Patrick Dodson, presented Prof Noam Chomsky with the Sydney Peace Prize at a Gala Dinner in the beautiful surrounds of the MacLaurin Hall, the University of Sydney.

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The official website for the Sydney Peace Prize and source of the above:
http://www.sydneypeacefoundation.org.au/

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

panopticon
7th December 2011, 14:45
G'day All,

Here is the ABC (Australia) link to the 2011 Sydney Peace Prize Lecture by recipient Noam Chomsky titled 'Revolutionary Pacifism':
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2011/11/29/3378072.htm

Downloads:
Video: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/sydneypeace_noamchomsky_full.mp4
Audio: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/sydneypeace_noamchomsky_full.mp3

I haven't found a version online anywhere else as of yet.

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

jackovesk
7th December 2011, 16:00
Can anyone explain to me Why the Old Fossil Noam Chomsky deserves to win a Peace Prize anywhere, let alone Australia..?

Seikou-Kishi
7th December 2011, 17:10
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

jackovesk
7th December 2011, 18:21
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

Fair Call - Seikou-Kishi :)

buckminster fuller
7th December 2011, 18:42
Can anyone explain to me Why the Old Fossil Noam Chomsky deserves to win a Peace Prize anywhere, let alone Australia..?

ever listen to the guy ?

jackovesk
8th December 2011, 04:41
Can anyone explain to me Why the Old Fossil Noam Chomsky deserves to win a Peace Prize anywhere, let alone Australia..?

ever listen to the guy ?

Yes many times, to the point where he had a sort of cult following, he was here there and everywhere...

Until he started supporting a 'World Government' under the 'United Nations' & Dismissing the '911' Truth Movement..!

Never again will I follow anyone blindly without using my own Discernment & Research...

Here is just 1 example...


His formula over the years has stayed consistent: blame "America" and "corporations" while failing to examine the hidden Globalist overclass which pulls the strings, using the U.S. as an engine of creation and destruction. Then after pinning all the worlds ills on American imperialism, Chomsky offers the solution of world government under the United Nations.

911

Noam Chomsky has acted as the premier Left gatekeeper in the aftermath of the 9-11 crimes, lashing out at the 9-11 truth movement and claiming any suggestions of government complicity are fabrications.

The "radical" Chomsky takes a position so deeply rooted in denial that it makes the staged 9-11 whitewash commission look like an honest study. He belligerently refuses to discuss any of the massive evidence proving government foreknowledge and participation in the crimes, claiming it would destroy the activist movements worldwide:


Chomsky Quote: "If the left spends its time on this, that's the end of the left, in my opinion: the mainstream would be utterly delighted. It is highly likely that nothing significant will be found. And if -- which I very greatly doubt -- something is found that would quickly send everyone in Washington to the death chamber, the left is unlikely to emerge triumphant." - Chomsky

In other words, Chomsky is telling his followers to ignore the evidence because according to him, none exists.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/noamchomskygatekepper26sep05.shtml


Remember this: Chomsky is an 'Expert Linguist' and he can use his 'Wordcraft' to (Spin) an opinion any which way he chooses, or another way of putting it using 'Carefully Crafted Words' any which way in support of those who are paying him..!

So for me, I don't completely Trust him...

I suggested those Chomsky followers here do a little more research by typing 'Noam Chomsky Fraud' into a Google search, you'd be surprised what you might find...

Rgs

Jack

modwiz
8th December 2011, 04:53
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

He gives it all back around 9/11. If as great a mind as his can accept the official 9/11 story, then he has a nugget in his shorts. His is without a doubt the sly-est fox and the slipperiest eel of all. When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul. Neither walks or talks like a duck. Still , they must be hiding webbed feet in their shoes.

If you disagree with me, please don't ask for proof. Just disagree with me and rip me a new one. That will be easier than demonstrating the craft of these masters of disguise. I post this for those who have seen, or smell, the same thing.

jackovesk
8th December 2011, 05:00
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

He gives it all back around 9/11. If as great a mind as his can accept the official 9/11 story, then he has a nugget in his shorts. His is without a doubt the sly-est fox and the slipperiest eel of all. When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul. Neither walks or talks like a duck. Still , they must be hiding webbed feet in their shoes.

If you disagree with me, please don't ask for proof. Just disagree with me and rip me a new one. That will be easier than demonstrating the craft of these masters of disguise. I post this for those who have seen, or smell, the same thing.

Ok Modwiz, I'll rip you a new one...


When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul

Explain Why Ron Paul is (Controlled Opposition) are you saying he's in bed with the PTB..???

If you are, you better be able to back that statement up - Or..?

modwiz
8th December 2011, 05:06
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

He gives it all back around 9/11. If as great a mind as his can accept the official 9/11 story, then he has a nugget in his shorts. His is without a doubt the sly-est fox and the slipperiest eel of all. When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul. Neither walks or talks like a duck. Still , they must be hiding webbed feet in their shoes.

If you disagree with me, please don't ask for proof. Just disagree with me and rip me a new one. That will be easier than demonstrating the craft of these masters of disguise. I post this for those who have seen, or smell, the same thing.

Ok Modwiz, I'll rip you a new one...


When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul

Explain Why Ron Paul is (Controlled Opposition) are you saying he's in bed with the PTB..???

If you are, you better be able to back that statement up - Or..?

Jack, I say in my post if you disagree with me don't ask me for proof and just rip me a new one. These things are subtle and I don't collect the data because I have no point to prove. I am so worn out by being surrounded by hypnotized zombies that I forget their are some people worthy of good data. If I come across any thing, again, I will share.

His case may be situational. He is having a hell of a time without dealing with 9/11, so that black eye may be makeup.

jackovesk
8th December 2011, 05:12
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

He gives it all back around 9/11. If as great a mind as his can accept the official 9/11 story, then he has a nugget in his shorts. His is without a doubt the sly-est fox and the slipperiest eel of all. When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul. Neither walks or talks like a duck. Still , they must be hiding webbed feet in their shoes.

If you disagree with me, please don't ask for proof. Just disagree with me and rip me a new one. That will be easier than demonstrating the craft of these masters of disguise. I post this for those who have seen, or smell, the same thing.

Ok Modwiz, I'll rip you a new one...


When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul

Explain Why Ron Paul is (Controlled Opposition) are you saying he's in bed with the PTB..???

If you are, you better be able to back that statement up - Or..?

Jack, I say in my post if you disagree with me don't ask me for proof and just rip me a new one. These things are subtle and I don't collect the data because I have no point to prove. I am so worn out by being surrounded by hypnotized zombies that I forget their are some people worthy of good data. If I come across any thing, again, I will share.

His case may be situational. He is having a hell of a time without dealing with 9/11, so that black eye may be makeup.

You do agree that in today's environment if Ron Paul came out in total support of the 911 Truth Movement it would be (Political Suicide), the Presstitutes would have a field day..!

One thing I'm sure of 'If' Ron Paul was elected President in 2012, he would definately (Re-Open) the 911 Investigation...

modwiz
8th December 2011, 05:22
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

He gives it all back around 9/11. If as great a mind as his can accept the official 9/11 story, then he has a nugget in his shorts. His is without a doubt the sly-est fox and the slipperiest eel of all. When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul. Neither walks or talks like a duck. Still , they must be hiding webbed feet in their shoes.

If you disagree with me, please don't ask for proof. Just disagree with me and rip me a new one. That will be easier than demonstrating the craft of these masters of disguise. I post this for those who have seen, or smell, the same thing.

Ok Modwiz, I'll rip you a new one...


When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul

Explain Why Ron Paul is (Controlled Opposition) are you saying he's in bed with the PTB..???

If you are, you better be able to back that statement up - Or..?

Jack, I say in my post if you disagree with me don't ask me for proof and just rip me a new one. These things are subtle and I don't collect the data because I have no point to prove. I am so worn out by being surrounded by hypnotized zombies that I forget their are some people worthy of good data. If I come across any thing, again, I will share.

His case may be situational. He is having a hell of a time without dealing with 9/11, so that black eye may be makeup.

You do agree that in today's environment if Ron Paul came out in total support of the 911 Truth Movement it would be (Political Suicide), the Presstitutes would have a field day..!

One thing I'm sure of 'If' Ron Paul was elected President in 2012, he would definately (Re-Open) the 911 Investigation...

I do agree.

jackovesk
8th December 2011, 05:27
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

He gives it all back around 9/11. If as great a mind as his can accept the official 9/11 story, then he has a nugget in his shorts. His is without a doubt the sly-est fox and the slipperiest eel of all. When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul. Neither walks or talks like a duck. Still , they must be hiding webbed feet in their shoes.

If you disagree with me, please don't ask for proof. Just disagree with me and rip me a new one. That will be easier than demonstrating the craft of these masters of disguise. I post this for those who have seen, or smell, the same thing.

Ok Modwiz, I'll rip you a new one...


When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul

Explain Why Ron Paul is (Controlled Opposition) are you saying he's in bed with the PTB..???

If you are, you better be able to back that statement up - Or..?

Jack, I say in my post if you disagree with me don't ask me for proof and just rip me a new one. These things are subtle and I don't collect the data because I have no point to prove. I am so worn out by being surrounded by hypnotized zombies that I forget their are some people worthy of good data. If I come across any thing, again, I will share.

His case may be situational. He is having a hell of a time without dealing with 9/11, so that black eye may be makeup.

You do agree that in today's environment if Ron Paul came out in total support of the 911 Truth Movement it would be (Political Suicide), the Presstitutes would have a field day..!

One thing I'm sure of 'If' Ron Paul was elected President in 2012, he would definately (Re-Open) the 911 Investigation...

I do agree.

You had me going there for a moment, I thought you may have been on some kind of...

:fish2:..Expedition, but you were on the wrong end of the Hook...:)

Mike
8th December 2011, 05:46
Why doesn't he deserve it? He's braved incessant accusations to criticise the way the Israeli government behaves.

He gives it all back around 9/11. If as great a mind as his can accept the official 9/11 story, then he has a nugget in his shorts. His is without a doubt the sly-est fox and the slipperiest eel of all. When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul. Neither walks or talks like a duck. Still , they must be hiding webbed feet in their shoes.

If you disagree with me, please don't ask for proof. Just disagree with me and rip me a new one. That will be easier than demonstrating the craft of these masters of disguise. I post this for those who have seen, or smell, the same thing.

Ok Modwiz, I'll rip you a new one...


When it comes to controlled opposition he is right there with Ron Paul

Explain Why Ron Paul is (Controlled Opposition) are you saying he's in bed with the PTB..???

If you are, you better be able to back that statement up - Or..?

Jack, I say in my post if you disagree with me don't ask me for proof and just rip me a new one. These things are subtle and I don't collect the data because I have no point to prove. I am so worn out by being surrounded by hypnotized zombies that I forget their are some people worthy of good data. If I come across any thing, again, I will share.

His case may be situational. He is having a hell of a time without dealing with 9/11, so that black eye may be makeup.

You do agree that in today's environment if Ron Paul came out in total support of the 911 Truth Movement it would be (Political Suicide), the Presstitutes would have a field day..!

One thing I'm sure of 'If' Ron Paul was elected President in 2012, he would definately (Re-Open) the 911 Investigation...

I do agree.



you agree? then prove it (i just couldn't resist:))

with Perry as good as gone and Bachmann just being...Bachmann, and with Romney flip-flopping like a fish out of water and Newt's sordid past now being regurgitated, i am expecting a very unexpected surge here from Ron Paul.

this excites me. i have to admit that i am on the bandwagon, however naive that may turn out to be. though i do like to hear opposing views from intelligent folks - to stay balanced and open. i understand your "proof" frustration, as i too no longer keep a roladex of stored data in my brain - i no longer feel the need to convert, and even when i've backed my points up with "proof" in the past, i was still considered suspiciously by family and friends.

but if you see something in the future overtly suggesting that i'm drinking the kool-aid, do tell! i'm actually considering voting here for the first time in years.

modwiz
8th December 2011, 06:04
I do agree.
you agree? then prove it (i just couldn't resist:))

with Perry as good as gone and Bachmann just being...Bachmann, and with Romney flip-flopping like a fish out of water and Newt's sordid past now being regurgitated, i am expecting a very unexpected surge here from Ron Paul.

this excites me. i have to admit that i am on the bandwagon, however naive that may turn out to be. though i do like to hear opposing views from intelligent folks - to stay balanced and open. i understand your "proof" frustration, as i too no longer keep a roladex of stored data in my brain - i no longer feel the need to convert, and even when i've backed my points up with "proof" in the past, i was still considered suspiciously by family and friends.

but if you see something in the future overtly suggesting that i'm drinking the kool-aid, do tell! i'm actually considering voting here for the first time in years.

He intrigues me as well. I genuinely like him and the way he handles himself. He says a lot of things I agree with. Obama deja vu for me? Maybe. There is something wrong here. He did hire a man for his campaign that is a zionist affiliate. It surfaced a month or two ago on places like Rense and then subsided. It was huge, a dancing with the devil deal. You could say Ron Paul was being let into the game by having this guy as a 'handler.' I wish I could remember his name. I do know he is still there running things. Very convenient to get this snake in and then count on people, even awake ones like me, to lose the story in one important way or another. I do hope the Universe will pop up a 'blast from the past' so I can grab hold of this information. Some might think it all means nothing. Some think Muslims did 9/11 and hate our freedoms. :doh:

Mike
8th December 2011, 06:17
interesting. i wonder if that could even be considered "good news" by Paul fans, as an initiation into the fraternity is likely the only way to get elected. though the question begs: will he have enough of his soul left to truly be effective? would 'they' even give him enough room to be effective?

i always get mixed feelings playing the NWO's answer to 6 degrees of kevin bacon. i sometimes wonder if it's even possible to operate without being influenced somehow by their sticky tentacles, and that perhaps we should judge based on the strength of the connection rather than the connection itself. though your example is certainly not easily dismissible. in fact, it's intriguing. i'm going to have a look into it.

jackovesk
8th December 2011, 08:04
you agree? then prove it (i just couldn't resist:))

with Perry as good as gone and Bachmann just being...Bachmann, and with Romney flip-flopping like a fish out of water and Newt's sordid past now being regurgitated, i am expecting a very unexpected surge here from Ron Paul.

this excites me. i have to admit that i am on the bandwagon, however naive that may turn out to be. though i do like to hear opposing views from intelligent folks - to stay balanced and open. i understand your "proof" frustration, as i too no longer keep a roladex of stored data in my brain - i no longer feel the need to convert, and even when i've backed my points up with "proof" in the past, i was still considered suspiciously by family and friends.

but if you see something in the future overtly suggesting that i'm drinking the kool-aid, do tell! i'm actually considering voting here for the first time in years.


with Perry as good as gone and Bachmann just being...Bachmann, and with Romney flip-flopping like a fish out of water and Newt's sordid past now being regurgitated, i am expecting a very unexpected surge here from Ron Paul.

You got it right the 1st time Chinaski...http://www.unisuper.com.au/images/niceTick2.jpg

but the very 'unexpected surge' is only coming from the 'MSM and their Controllers'..!

I guess we should stop hijacking Panopticon's Thread...

:focus:

panopticon
8th December 2011, 08:23
G'day Jacko,

Thanks for your opinion on Chomsky.

I may not agree with some of Chomsky's perspectives and opinions, for example he can be interpreted (http://www.flagrancy.net/khmerchomsky.html) as having been a supporter of the Khmer Rouge in the 1970's, however I still respect his willingness to say what he does believe. Just because he supports some main stream ideas (that many at Avalon do not) I do not see it as relevent to his being a "personal truth speaker". I have some beliefs that contradict what might be considered as main stream at Avalon, however that does not mean that I am unwilling to participate and put my perspective forward. That form of "groupthink" would stem both personal and group growth. We all know that no-one knows everything as the layers, depth and inter-relationship between everything makes that impossible.

As for Chomsky receiving the 2011 'Sydney Peace Prize' I reckon it is possible to find a lot of conservatives in Australian politics and the media that agree with you that it was a bad choice, or at the very least a controversial one.

His out spoken opposition to US foreign policy (in particular Pinochet, the Nicaraguan Contra and Latin America in general) kept the information in the "public arena" and the debate alive. He condemned the Soviet totalitarian regime and is a vocal advocate for human rights. He was one of the first intellectuals to come out against the so called "War on Terror" and continues to speak to the abuses against state sovereignty perpetrated by Western countries to this day.

His views on a world government, as far as I understand anyway, are not the same as the usually portrayed "top down" pyramidal scheme. As I understand it, as an anarcho-syndicalist he would prefer the grass-root approach of local groups coming together to form what could be called a "global network of co-operation" (hence his praise of the "Occupy" movement). That's one way it can be viewed anyway. Classic anarchism relies on individuals being educated and able to understand and respect (not merely tolerate) different ways of viewing the world. I am not an expert in Chomsky's "One World" view so am only talking generally about anarchist perspectives on the issue. As I understand it his views in this respect are not accepted by the main stream as he advocates that we should no longer pay for things just to support the multi-national corporations and corrupt nation-states. While the idea is extremely complex, I view it is one approach to overcome "corporate globalisation". I hear this quite often at Avalon and elsewhere in the "alternative media" so wonder what the problem is there?

So while he has made some errors, and agrees with some main stream understandings, his depth of knowledge to do with the history of politics (noteably the relationship between power, control and politics), willingness to speak out against power imbalance and his loud opposition to human rights abuse place him as a worthy (though controversial) recipient in my opinion.

Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

music
8th December 2011, 13:29
Chomsky and John Pilger - both men who would be able to discern the truth of 9/11 yet stay strangely quiet. Illuminati. Ron Paul - I distrust him, and not just because he's the darling of the multiple agency co-opted or founded "what is the plan" website, and of right-wingers who cling to the idea that a system that values scarcity over essentials is redeemable, but solely because he doesn't smell right. For me, he is another of "their" cards in the hand, another one silent on 9/11, the only can of worms that (if opened) could disrupt the NWO timeline. The truth of 9/11 is not a matter of political expediency - either you are honest about it, or you are not.

Seikou-Kishi
8th December 2011, 18:31
If you disagree with me, please don't ask for proof. Just disagree with me and rip me a new one.

You wound me MW