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letmedanz
14th November 2011, 17:34
Hi all,

Been reading up on all the dreams and tales that have been noted here & i wanted to share a very scary & difficult experience i had about a year back...

I was at my girl friend's (now my wife) place having a good time, a couple of drinks. We were just watching some stuff online, TV, etc.

at one point i fell asleep and woke up a few hours later and realized i had dozed off.
Got out had a shower, she had woken up.

Wat we realized at that moment, was that we had no idea wen we had fallen asleep, or how.
the last recollection was a certain point in a tennis match that we were watching, so we could gauge the approximate time which had passed.
It was very weird, cos after this moment in our memory, it's a blank. Completely blank.

Then looking around, the room was perfectly clean. We had food, drinks, clothes all over the place...
Now, the room was cleaned out, lights & TV turned off, shoes & clothes arranged, the dishes at wash.
Neither of us did it! or even remember doing it. It was quite surprising not to remember falling asleep AND cleaning the place.

2 things to remember - there was no one else in the house, the room was latched.
and, we were not at all close to being drunk, both of us remember having the first drink at that point in the match and that's about it.
Besides she's always been a little fish, i try to keep up...

This conversation just passed, she wanted to go back to sleep. I wasn't too sleepy then, got back to my laptop.
A few hours later, i did actually feel kinda tired, kept the laptop away and got into bed - fell asleep.

This is the weird part.

I am usually a good dreamer, have vivid dreams, very life like and abnormal at times - in different worlds, doing funny things- you get the drift.
I dream a lot. I've dreamed of fighting creatures with weapons, in a very futuristic place, done things that i, in my present time in life can't.

But this was different. In my dream (or what i thought, i am in the exact same scenario as in my real life.
My partner next to me, TV spewing some rubbish, laptop by the side, but am awake (or so i feel).
At this very moment a feel a cold pair of hands choking me. I could just see the hands, nothing else and the pressure just increased.
I am unable to move my limbs, unable to shout. All i could do was make these very feeble, muffled noises in an intent to wake her up to help me.
A couple of times after these noises were 'emitted' from me, she awoke with a start and shook me.
i could finally breathe! opened my eyes, hugged her and asked her what happened.
She had heard those 'noises' and awoke, realized i was really making them...

The crazy bit is that, i have NEVER ever felt anything the way i felt at that moment.
I couldn't differentiate between my REAL life - when i was sleeping on that same bed, and my dream (was it?) - where i was in EXACTLY the same room, role, scene, etc.

i am not sure if am making myself clear, what i want you to know is that the dream felt as if it was real. It was like that DREAM was my real life. It was like living the present physical world in a different dimension.
And those horrible hands! i have had instances when i want to run but i can't, when i want to scream, but i can't in my dreams. But never experienced anything like this.

She seems to have been my guardian angel of the moment..
i really felt like i was gonna die if she hadn't shaken me up

To note, i had no marks on my neck

If i made any sense, please let me know your thoughts...
Not sure if this looks very usual, it wasn't for me..

The idea of sleep paralysis struck me, but i have never had the problem ever before, or after (now that it has been a year or so since this happened).

letmedanz
15th November 2011, 04:08
This really happened ! :P

Hughe
23rd November 2011, 06:41
Trust in yourself and embrace any dreams with open mind.
Don't afraid of anything while in you are in a dream.
Maybe meditation or hypnosis experience bring you confidence.

I enjoy having various experiences in my dreams. Lately I got killed three times in one dream, saw many deceased people that I'v known in past. Hmm... When I'm in a dream state, my split consciousness kicks in so that I don't get sucked in the dream and be panic or scared.

The more you opens up yourself to spirituality, non-physical realm, you will have experiences and interact various entities. Last night I was invited to undersea world, interacted with non-human citizens and saw their massive structures and machines. Interesting. I've been to many places in universe, past and probably future too. This is my private exciting journey.

My dream land slowly changed over the years. In the past when I was a normal guy who barely know about spirituality, stuck in materialistic world most of my dreams were extended version of real life. Sometimes I had nightmare and woke up in a dream, afraid of going back to sleep. The non-human entities, seeing ghosts were unpleasant. Even though I quickly carried on daily living.

Some dreams I wish I wouldn't wake up at all. Having good time with beautiful females.
Do drug addicts or alcoholic have lucid dreams like us? I doubt it. Experiences without no memory is kind of in zombie state or being possessed by other entity IMHO.

There is a well-known metaphysical story which questions about what's reality all about. It's a story of a man in ancient time.
A man was walking in a beautiful, warm spring day on the road. He got tired and looked for a resting place. There was a big tree so that he would have quick nap out of sun light. He laid down under the tree. He felt a sleep and had colorful, vivid dream that he was a butterfly, living in the land of flowers. And then, he woke up. "I wish I would live in the dream land as a butterfly!"
Suddenly irresistible question stuck his head 'How do I know I might be an imaginary being created by the butterfly I was in the dream? How do I know this reality is real or not? How can I?' To me it's a lovely fascinating story but shares the core understanding of Buddhism, Quantum theory in physics - holographic universe. Going down this area leads to spoon bending, telepathy, remote viewing, time travel, FTL (Fastst Than Light) travel, free energy, instantaneous healing, universal collective mind, past lives, aliens, and a lot more. I realize that where I'm standing on.

Having vivid dreams is definitely good sign.

Mark
23rd November 2011, 06:57
Alright, a couple things:

1) I also dream the same, I'm always in groups, often on different worlds, sometimes technological, sometimes fantastic. A lot of fighting, also a lot of quests. Lot of aliens or creatures after me, or entities of one sort or another.

2) I've had exactly 2 dreams like what you describe above, where something reached out from the dream state and actually touched me in real life. both times were fearful both times they were conscious, malevolent entities, once a witch, and another time a giant, albino creature that walked like a spider with its belly and chest facing upwards and its arms and legs bent backwards to walk.

3) I've never seen anybody else ever write about it so I also look forward to hearing from anyone who may know about this. If your dream was like these I had, you know for a fact you were actually touched, in real life, by an entity in a dream.

letmedanz
27th November 2011, 02:41
Trust in yourself and embrace any dreams with open mind.
Don't afraid of anything while in you are in a dream.
Maybe meditation or hypnosis experience bring you confidence.

I enjoy having various experiences in my dreams. Lately I got killed three times in one dream, saw many deceased people that I'v known in past. Hmm... When I'm in a dream state, my split consciousness kicks in so that I don't get sucked in the dream and be panic or scared.

The more you opens up yourself to spirituality, non-physical realm, you will have experiences and interact various entities. Last night I was invited to undersea world, interacted with non-human citizens and saw their massive structures and machines. Interesting. I've been to many places in universe, past and probably future too. This is my private exciting journey.

My dream land slowly changed over the years. In the past when I was a normal guy who barely know about spirituality, stuck in materialistic world most of my dreams were extended version of real life. Sometimes I had nightmare and woke up in a dream, afraid of going back to sleep. The non-human entities, seeing ghosts were unpleasant. Even though I quickly carried on daily living.

Some dreams I wish I wouldn't wake up at all. Having good time with beautiful females.
Do drug addicts or alcoholic have lucid dreams like us? I doubt it. Experiences without no memory is kind of in zombie state or being possessed by other entity IMHO.

There is a well-known metaphysical story which questions about what's reality all about. It's a story of a man in ancient time.
A man was walking in a beautiful, warm spring day on the road. He got tired and looked for a resting place. There was a big tree so that he would have quick nap out of sun light. He laid down under the tree. He felt a sleep and had colorful, vivid dream that he was a butterfly, living in the land of flowers. And then, he woke up. "I wish I would live in the dream land as a butterfly!"
Suddenly irresistible question stuck his head 'How do I know I might be an imaginary being created by the butterfly I was in the dream? How do I know this reality is real or not? How can I?' To me it's a lovely fascinating story but shares the core understanding of Buddhism, Quantum theory in physics - holographic universe. Going down this area leads to spoon bending, telepathy, remote viewing, time travel, FTL (Fastst Than Light) travel, free energy, instantaneous healing, universal collective mind, past lives, aliens, and a lot more. I realize that where I'm standing on.

Having vivid dreams is definitely good sign.


Thank you for your words Hughes.
I definitely believe that dreaming is a kind of ability that we possess in our subconscious mind that allows to reach into other dimensions and interact with beings there..
I also think it possible to travel forwards or backwards in our life time in this state.
Whatever the reasoning, we, the human mind is actually capable of these states.. if not, it simply wouldn't happen!

Our reality is something we have no clue about.. we could just be created due to someone's thought, or in a simulation or anything even our mind can not imagine

Rantaak
27th November 2011, 08:52
I've experienced something very similar to this before, I was laying in bed with my (for lack of a better word) girlfriend, and her face started mutating and slurping and melting onto my chest like some sort of radiated dog crocodile. Fortunately, my body was awake enough to yell and the vision ended abruptly. I had never felt a vision touch me physically before then. Another time, I awoke in a similarly dreary haze to that which you described. I was unable to breathe, and I felt like I was being attacked by something that I could not see or hear but instead sense and feel. It took all of the might of my will to pry one of my eyes slightly open and croak towards my partner who fortunately possessed the sensibility to wake me. Other times this has happened, she has been either asleep or showering. Fortunately this has not happened in quite a while (a healthy dose of dark shamanism can often right ones velocity in such a manner that they escape the etheric shackles of fear), but it is interesting to hear of other peoples' accounts. I will share my observations.

Dreams open us up to a state where the mind is less easily confined by the limits of the body it normally inhabits. This can allow for lucid dreaming, hypnogogia, out-of-body experiences, astral space-time travel, and even possession by Logos. The function responsible for this process on a neurological level is allowed by a particular neurotransmitter which scientists are calling N,N-DiMethylTryptamine. Very similar to serotonin, one of our waking-state neurotransmitters. It really makes you question the extent of the difference of validity between these states of consciousness.

My theory is that the chemical and metaphysical (same) process of experiencing fear compromises ones defenses and spiritual presence. This can lead to feeding entities that reside within the lower astral levels of vibration, as many of them literally eat fear the same way that we eat ice cream. Fearing them feeds them, allowing them to make use of the power that you have given away in order to heighten how freaked out you are by manifesting further symbolic atrocities. I don't eat ice cream (adverse sugar reaction in my enigmatic nervous system) but I do know that fear is not the only emotion that feeds these entities that exist beyond the edges of the serotonin bubble of cognition. Events such as the one you have described to us are indicative of a need to advance spiritually to a point where you are naturally well-defended enough to relax, smile and carry on as usual.

letmedanz
28th November 2011, 14:42
Thanks Rantaak.
I have also considered sleep paralysis & related issues as a reasoning (suggested by some friends), but considering that this was the only time this ever happened up until now, makes me wan to think twice.

Also after i have spoken about this incident, which i thought was rare, i have met and heard so many more people who have experienced if not the same, a very similar 'dream'.

Flash
28th November 2011, 15:17
What disturbs me in your dream Letmedanz is that your house was cleaned while .... being asleep or at least unconscious. If your drink was laced with something, you would have been knocked out but your house would not have been cleaned.

And how could you, with an unconscious agreement between you, unconsciously clean the house? And feeling tired after waking up? Strange indeed.

Hypnosis may help uncover what went on during that night, who knows.