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Ruis
29th June 2010, 17:59
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has anyone got any new updates on this subject as I have heard that they are planning to introduce it here for 2020

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Ruis
29th June 2010, 18:04
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this is being touted as good for you

I have been informed that schools are profiling children including their responses to authority, there is a plan to verichip all children from 2020 who attend school and to also encourage adults/compulsorise later

morguana
30th June 2010, 07:32
hi ruis, they already have biometrics in place in some uk schools, this verichip thing is soooo not cosher, there is absolute no way i would volentery concider being chiped (or my kids, i am afraid i would cut the chips out) this is scarey stuff! they really have worked out their marketing ploy havent they? i can not understand how anyone would concider having this done!


Introduction

The VeriChip Personal Identification System is a small radio frequency identification device (RFID) that is implanted into the human body. VeriChip raises the same privacy issues as RFID tags.

* VeriChip FAQ, VeriChip Corporation.
* EPIC RFID Page.

VeriChip is marketed as a universal means of identification, intended for use in a variety of settings, including financial and transportation security, residential and commercial building access, and military and government security. For an initial "chipping" fee, as well as a monthly $9.95 subscription fee, customers' arms are implanted with a glass chip about the size of a grain of rice, containing a unique verification number. When activated by a VeriChip scanner, that number is emitted by a small radio frequency, providing instant access to information logged in the Global VeriChip Subscriber (GVS) Registry.

On October 12, 2004, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved VeriChip for medical applications in the United States. The approval will allow VeriChip to be used to confirm identity, and check the blood type, potential allergies and medical history of unconscious patients. The device is subject to Class II special controls to mitigate potential risks identified by the FDA, which include adverse tissue reaction, electromagnetic interference, and magnetic resonance imaging incompatibility.

* Process: How VeriChip Works, VeriChip Corporation.
* Letter from Donna Bea-Tillman, Phd., Director, Office of Device Evaluation, Center for Devices and Radiological Health, to James Santelli, Vice President, Finance and Chief Financial Office, Digital Angel Corporation 1 (October 12, 2004).

In March 2004, a nightclub in Barcelona began using VeriChip as a sort of embedded VIP card for its customers. Patrons of the Baja Beach Club can pay 125 Euros to have the chip implanted, then use it to bypass entry lines and keep track of bar tabs.

Planned future uses for VeriChip include a variety of financial, security, defense, homeland security and secure-access applications. ASDX sees its product as "tamper-proof personal identification" for use in credit card and ATM access, airport security, and port congestion management, as well as admission to military bases, government installations, and private-sector buildings. The system is marketed as a stand-alone product or for use in conjunction with biometric devices. ASDX has started a marketing campaign under the slogan "Get Chipped", that includes a traveling van called the "ChipMobile".

VeriChip Corporation is a wholly owned subsidiary of Applied Digital Solutions, Inc (ASDX). According to a recent report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, ASDX "focuses on a range of life enhancing, personal safeguard technologies, early warning alert systems, miniaturized power sources and security monitoring systems combined with the comprehensive data management services required to support them". ASDX customers include several federal agencies, such as Departments of Defense, Agriculture, and Justice, the Social Security Administration, the Veterans Administration and the United States Postal Service, as well as the insurance, utility, communications, and high tech industries.
http://epic.org/privacy/rfid/verichip.html


Fingerprinting in schools over the world

Many schools have implemented fingerprint locks or registered children's fingerprints. In the UK biometrics in schools have been largely used for library book issue, but are increasingly being used for cashless catering systems, enabling parents to deposit money into students catering accounts, to be debited by a child's biometric fingerscan at the point of sale. Biometric technology for registration is also used in the UK. In the USA biometrics systems are used primarily for catering, as mentioned above, with library and registration biometrics in use also.

Fingerprint locking systems happened in the United Kingdom (fingerprint lock in the Holland Park School in London [1], databases, etc., in Belgium (école Marie-José in Liège [2][3]), in France, in Italy, etc. The NGO Privacy International has alerted that tens of thousands of UK school children were being fingerprinted by schools, often without the knowledge or consent of their parents [4]. In 2002, the supplier Micro Librarian Systems, which use a technology similar to US prisons and German military, estimated that 350 schools through-out Britain were using such systems, to replace library cards [4]. In 2007, it is estimated that 3,500 schools (ten times more) are using such systems [5]. By 2009 the number of children fingerprinted was estimated to be two million [6].


Under the Data Protection Act (DPA), schools in the UK do not have to ask parental consent for such practices. Parents opposed to such practices may only bring individual complaints against schools [7]. Concerns have been raised about the civil liberties implications of fingerprinting children in schools [8]. In 2007 Early Day Motion 686, which called on the UK Government to conduct a full and open consultation with stakeholders about the use of biometrics in schools, secured the support of 85 Members of Parliament [9].


The alleged use of taking children's fingerprints is to struggle against school truancy and/or to replace library cards or money for meals by fingerprint locks. In Belgium, this practice gave rise to a question in Parliament on February 6, 2007 by Michel de La Motte (Humanist Democratic Centre) to the Education Minister Marie Arena, who replied that they were legal insofar as the school did not use them for external purposes nor to survey the private life of children [10]. Such practices have also been used in France (Angers, Carqueiranne college in the Var — the latter won the Big Brother Award of 2005 for its hand geometry system, etc.) although the CNIL, official organism in charge of protection of privacy, has declared them "disproportionate." [11]. The CNIL, however, declared in 2002 hand geometry systems to be acceptable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometrics_in_schools

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/fingerprinting_final_view_v1.11.pdf

morguana
30th June 2010, 08:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW8ccyVm7P8&feature=player_embedded
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Verichip Fact Sheet

1. The VeriChip can be hacked
2. Security researcher Jonathan Westhues has shown how easy it is to clone a VeriChip
3. VeriChip cloning demo online at http://cq.cx/verichip.pl
4. Eighteen employees in the Mexican Attorney General's office who use an implanted chip to enter a sensitive records room
5. Company's own literature indicates that chipped patients cannot undergo an MRI if they're unconscious.
6. Digital Angel Corporation (formerly Destron Fearing) has been involved in the development and manufacture of livestock identification products since 1948.
7. The company admits that critical medical information linked to the chip could be unavailable in a real emergency.
8. Chipped patients might also have to wear a Medic Alert bracelet as a back-up in case the VeriChip database containing their critical medical information is unavailable
9. Physicians are told the product might not function in places where there are ambient radio transmissions--like ambulances
10. Verichip Waiver "Patient...is fully aware of any risks, complications, risks of loss, damage of any nature, and injury that may be associated with this registration. Patient waives all claims and releases any liability arising from this registration and acknowledges that no warranties of any kind have been made or will be made with respect to this registration. ALL WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, HOWEVER ARISING, WHETHER BY OPERATION OF LAW OR OTHERWISE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MECHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE EXCLUDED AND WAIVED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COMPANY BE LIABLE TO PATIENT FOR ANY INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING LOST INCOME OR SAVINGS) ARISING FROM ANY CAUSE WHATSOEVER, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THEIR POSSIBILITY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER SUCH DAMAGES ARE SOUGHT BASED ON BREACH OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, OR ANY OTHER LEGAL THEORY."
11. VeriChip corporation tries to ease consumer fears by referring to the chip as being "about the size of a grain of rice."
12. Scott Silverman, Chairman of the Board of VeriChip Corporation, promoting the the Verichiop human tracking device as a way to identify immigrants and guest workers
13. Silvermann has stated the Verichip "be used for enforcement purposes at the employer level." He added, "We have talked to many people in Washington about using it...."
14. Columbian President Alvaro Uribe. He reportedly told Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA) that he would consider having microchips implanted into Colombian workers before they are permitted to enter the United States to work on a seasonal basis.
15. Tommy Thompson, former Secretary of Health and Human Services joined the board of VeriChip Corporation after leaving his Bush administration cabinet post.
16. Tommy Thompson, former Secretary of Health and Human Services went on national television recommending that all Americans get chipped as a way to link to their medical records.
17. Tommy Thompson, former Secretary of Health and Human Services stated VeriChip could replace military dog tags, and a spokesman boasted that the company had been in talks with the Pentagon.
18. Privacy advocates warn that once people are numbered with a remotely readable RFID tag like the VeriChip, they can be tracked. Once they can be tracked, they can be monitored and controlled
19. Electrical hazards, MRI incompatibility, adverse tissue reaction, and migration of the implanted transponder are just a few of the potential risks associated with the Verichip ID implant device, according to an October 12, 2004 letter issued by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
20. Albrecht cites MRI incompatibility is perhaps the most serious issue. An MRI machine uses powerful magnetic fields coupled with pulsed radio frequency (RF) fields. According to the FDA's Primer on Medical Device Interactions with Magnetic Resonance Imaging Systems, "electrical currents may be induced in conductive metal implants" that can cause "potentially severe patient burns."
21. FDA letter also cites the risk of "compromised information security" among its concerns. The VeriChip ID implant, about the size of a grain of rice, uses radio waves to transmit medical and financial account information to reader devices. There is a risk that these transmissions could be intercepted and duplicated by others or that the devices could be used to track an individual's movements and location.
22. "Once you're chipped, you can be identified by doorway portal readers without your knowledge,"
23. News reports earlier this year indicated 160 employees in the Mexican Attorney General's Office had been implanted with Verichip RFID devices. New information indicates that only 18 individuals received the device
24. Among the potential problems the FDA identifies are: "adverse tissue reaction," "migration of the implanted transponder," "failure of implanted transponder," "electrical hazards" and "magnetic resonance imaging [MRI] incompatibilty." Not to mention the nasty needle stick from the "inserter" used to inject it.
25. VeriChip-MRI incompatibility means that doctors will be unable to order this potentially life-saving diagnostic procedure for patients with VeriChip implants, unless the patient undergoes a surgical procedure to remove the VeriChip first.
26. VeriChip implant can be read whenever you pass through a doorway equipped with a special VeriChip "portal scanner"?
27. Under the FDA guidelines , the human implantable RFID Verichip was approved by default without testing at any level, as the Verichip was not considered a ‘regulated medical device’ .
28. The patent, No. # 7,116,230, combines RFID tagging technology with a portable receiver to track the location of assets within a fixed setting, such as a building or warehouse
29. VeriChip'sinfant protection systems, with one-out-of-three Hospitals and Birthing Centers in the United States
30. VeriChip Corporation Signs 3-year, $750,000 Distribution Contract with iChip Corporation of South Africa
31. Derek Brandon Jacobs, one of the first people in the world to bear an identification microchip, died at 18 in a Florida motorcycle accident.
32. Verichip is lobbying the Pentagon to choose its RFID tags as a replacement for the famous metal dog tags for ALL USA military!
33. The company has gone on record to say that the implantable GPS-tracked chip could be worth a whopping $100 billion comprising 26 potential vertical markets. That sort of revenue by any company’s standards is stupendous and would require a great part of the world’s population to be ‘chipped’ .
34. Two hackers (Annalee Newitz and Jonathan Westhues ) demonstrated that the chip named RFid (Radio Frequency Identification) could be easily scanned and cloned during their intervention in the 6th Hope Conference .
35. Newark’s Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, the state’s largest health insurer, is launching a two-year pilot program with Hackensack University Medical Center that will implant microchips in 280 Horizon members.
36. Four hospitals in the US Caribbean territory plan to begin using the Verichi patients who have significant health problems or illnesses that cause memory loss. Free will?
37. Verichip IPO will offer 4.3 million shares between $6.50 and $8.50 per share from underwriters Merriman Curhan Ford, C.E. Unterberg Towbin, and Kaufman Bros.
38. The company's chief scientist, Dr. Peter Zhou, who has gone onto record to say "Before there may have been resistance, but not anymore. People are getting used to implants. New century, new trend."
39. American Medical Association’s (AMA) Council on Ethical and Judicial Affairs has adopted a policy stating that implantable radio frequency identification (RFID) devices may help to identify patients, thereby improving the safety and efficiency of patient care, and may be used to enable secure access to patient clinical information BUT "These devices may present physical risks to the patient," the report said. "Though they are removable, their small size allows them to migrate under the skin, making them potentially difficult to extract." [Verichip cherry picked the press release maintaining it's leadership in deceiving the public. ]
40. New Jersey has actually passed legislation that will require "smart gun" technology on all handguns sold, which would be three years after the state attorney general certifies that "smart guns" are available on the market.
41. "In principle, a device of this type should never be forced on anybody," Scott Silverman has gone on record to say. Please view the Operation Lie and Deceive Verichip Style video before you accept shape shifting Scott's word as gospel.
42. Lawmakers in Indonesia's remote province of Papua have thrown their support behind a controversial bill requiring some HIV/AIDS patients to be implanted with microchips
43. Upon successful completion of the in vivo glucose-sensing RFID development program, this self-contained, implantable bio-sensing device will, for the first time, have the ability to measure glucose levels in the human body through an external scanner, thereby eliminating the need for diabetics to prick their fingers multiple times per day.
44. The glucose sensor is a promising example, combining a unique application of the technology and an extremely valuable market. While there is much more to do, development of the binding environment was a big step towards reaching that future."
45. VeriChip Corporation announced that its personal health record used in conjunction with its VeriMed Health Link system will be accessible through Microsoft(R) HealthVault(TM), an online platform designed to put consumers in control of their health information.
46. VeriChip Corp has been notified by NASDAQ that it is not in compliance with the listing requirements . NASDAQ said that for the past 30 consecutive business days prior to Oct. 16, its stock bid price closed below the minimum $1-a-share price requirement for continued listing.
47. In addition, the stock has not maintained a minimum market value of $5 million as required.
48. September — shortly after the first 90 or so Alzheimer's patients received its chips in Florida , Verichip came under fire when cancer was linked to embedded RFID chips
49. A Dutch prototype for an RFID embedded in a passport was hacked in two hours by a local TV station. Hackers could access fingerprint, photograph, and other data on the RFID tag, perfect for creating a cloned passport.
50. Successful hacks of the Exxon Mobile key fob, the VeriChip human RFID implant, the California State Capitol building access system, and the new RFID passports show how easy it is to skim and clone poorly protected RFID devices and compromise RFID-dependent security systems.
51. India, with the Health Hiway initiative of Apollo Hospitals and IBM, which connects 250 users across 75 providers. The goal is a centralised database of patient records across the country.
52. 100 million e-prescribing initiative, supported by a consortium of IT biggies like Dell, Google and Microsoft
53. Xega is the name for Verichip in South America
54. State banning microchipping Wisconsin and North Dakota California Missouri
55. To date, about 100 patients and caregivers with Alzheimer's Community Care have undergone successful RFID implants with another 100 expected to be implanted by February 2009.
56. UK Ministry of Justice is exploring the possibility of injecting prisoners in the back of the arm with a radio frequency identification (RFID)
57. Every single Metropolitan police officer will be 'microchipped' so top brass can monitor their movements on a Big Brother style tracking scheme, it can be revealed today.
58. UK Chipping According to respected industry magazine Police Review, the plan - which affects all 31,000 serving officers in the Met, including Sir Ian Blair - is set to replace the unreliable Airwave radio system currently used to help monitor officer's movements.
59. The new electronic tracking device - called the Automated Personal Location System (APLS) - means that officers will never be out of range of supervising officers.
60. VeriChip US military. According to the DC Examiner, the company is lobbying the Pentagon to choose its RFID tags as a replacement for the famous metal dog tags, making information like a person's name and complete medical record instantly available with the swipe of an RFID reader
61. The process developed by Somark involves a geometric array of micro-needles and a reusable applicator with a one-time-use ink capsule. Pydynowski said it takes five to 10 seconds to "stamp or tattoo" an animal, and there is no need to remove the fur. The ink remains in the dermal layer, and a reader can detect it from 4 feet away.
62. Digital Angel, the manufacturer of animal microchips, exclusively makes the Home Again microchip and is the sister company of VeriChip.



http://www.wethepeoplewillnotbechipped.com/main/news.php

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Sets record straight after misleading claims by HomeAgain and VeriChip implant manufacturers

A new paper titled "Microchip-Induced Tumors in Laboratory Rodents and Dogs: A Review of the Literature 1990–2006" has been released today by CASPIAN. The full, 48-page paper provides a definitive review of the academic literature showing a causal link between implanted radio-frequency (RFID) microchip transponders and cancer in laboratory rodents and dogs. In addition, a brief, four-page synopsis of the full report is being made available.

Benezra QuoteEleven articles previously published in toxicology and pathology journals are evaluated in the report. In six of the articles, between 0.8% and 10.2% of laboratory mice and rats developed malignant tumors around or adjacent to the microchips, and several researchers suggested the actual tumor rate may have been higher. Two additional articles reported microchip-related cancer in dogs.

In almost all cases, the malignant tumors, typically sarcomas, arose at the site of the implants and grew to surround and fully encase the devices. In several cases the tumors also metastasized or spread to other parts of the animals.
http://www.wethepeoplewillnotbechipped.com/main/viewpage.php?page_id=58


Inventor's terminal cancer courtesy of Verichip?

Bob Boyce, who has invented a super-efficient electrolysis method, as well as a self-looping electrical circuit capable of charging batteries, discovered a microchip implant in his shoulder when having a tumor removed from that spot, which metastasized. It turns out the chip was made by VeriChip; and he has no idea how it got there.

by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
Copyright © 2009

Bob Boyce is a famous inventor in the world of ultra-efficient electrolysis and hydroxy research. The chip found in his shoulder at the point of tumor formation turns out to be manufactured by VeriChip.

On Nov. 12, we reported that a South African experimenter has modified an electrolysis circuit developed by Bob Boyce so that now it recharges his daughter's electric vehicle riding toy. We said that what makes this remarkable is that the energy is not drawn from the wall but from the environment somehow; and that he's done this around 35 times now and knows of three replications of the effect by others. We created a feature page and a discussion list to facilitate additional replications and development of the technology.

We also reported in the same story that we had become aware the day before that Bob Boyce, of Tennessee, has "terminal" cancer, and that his days are numbered if some kind of remedy isn't found.

full artical (http://pesn.com/2009/11/28/9501591_Bob_Boyce_cancer_by_Verichip/)

bluestflame
30th June 2010, 08:34
looks like that thing they pulled out of NEO's bellybutton in "the matrix"

Swanny
30th June 2010, 09:30
No ones putting a chip in me unless it comes with a piece of fish :p

conk
30th June 2010, 13:46
Haven't they been shown to cause cancer?

JoshERTW
30th June 2010, 14:18
This is straight out of the X-files... microchip implants causing cancer... craziness.

Peace of Mind
30th June 2010, 16:41
http://www.bing.com/videos/?FORM=MFEVID&publ=61FA4790-3C4B-45F5-9ED3-D2EEEE722E89&crea=STND_MFEVID_Core_Q4NetSh_CustomVidLink_1x1&q=World+Smallest+RFID&docid=63881938128&FORM=NSHLTR#

Peace

Ethereal Blue Being
28th October 2010, 22:22
Yes it reeks of being assimilated just like the Borg in Star Trek and the Native Americans.-- appauling

Ammit
28th October 2010, 22:33
Cooooor 7 of nine............

Just kidden, I will never , nor will my children be chipped, simple and fact.

Blessings

Ammit

Martin
28th October 2010, 23:48
It's insane alright! I remember reading about a club/ disco in spain or portugal that already "offered" such service to its visitors ... isn't it convenient to have a friggin microchip under your skin instead of a horrible wallet which is only used by stone age people anyway!? Or whats about grandpa, he forgets things all the time ... let's get him chiped! :rolleyes: And yes it is already very well known that implants can inflict cancer.

1984 my ass!

MfG

Martin

bluestflame
28th October 2010, 23:52
that's the marketing technique , offering something as a convenience , to make life easier and less complicated

Barron
2nd November 2010, 07:29
I know they are putting chips into UK police officers, Mexican Politicians and others that are sacred of being kidnapped etc. And even in a nightclub in Barcelona you can get the chip inserted so that you get quicker entry into the club avoiding queueing and clock your drinks up to a tab via the chip etc.
But it will never be compulsory - some have had them inserted by dentists in USA against their will when they thought they were simply getting some dental work done!!! I believe the smart ID card with embedded RFID chip that transmits as well as being read is the real worry! Cashless society etc. In India i understand they are quickly heading down this path.

There must be a mass revolt against this when the time is right.

Swami
2nd November 2010, 08:34
Biometrics are already in place....
Take a close look at this video and look for the red squares


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WG_qEHcGU

In this vid you can see how you can destroy RFID' s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0vZigwn09I

Swami
2nd November 2010, 09:28
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eob532iEpqk

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Swami
2nd November 2010, 09:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAv1D1SIPss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTIXB8a9GM

noxon medem
2nd November 2010, 19:22
This is how they push the border of our tolerance.
A chip in the body is both appauling and frightening for most of us.
So, is this were we draw the line in the sand ?
And then we tolerate everything up to this outrageousness ?

Ammit
3rd November 2010, 18:20
The rfid chip zapper was a fantastic movie clip. Many thanks for that Swammi.
All we need now is a way to detect them in the human body and a harmless way to zapp them, after all, we dont wanna kill our selves in the process.
I was actually wondering if the ghost hunting units that you can buy would detect the electrical energy from an inplanted chip?

Kari Lynn
3rd November 2010, 18:38
When my youngest son was born, (he's now 10)
The hospital really pushed for me to have a chip put in him. It was manitory that I watch an hour long movie that showed kids being kidnapped and missing, etc.... and how the chip would have saved them.
Each time I had to sign a paper stating that I had watched movie, been counciled by personel/staff, etc... and state that I was refusing to put the chip in my infant.
The entire 3 days I spent in the hospital with my son they came in once and twice a day to ask me if I wanted the chip. And even a doctor himself came in to talk to me about it when the nurses got no where with me.
I seriously wonder if he does have a chip. Without my consent or knowledge.

I say the same thing. I will not accept a chip in me, or my children. But.... I'm not so sure they and I don't already have some.

Ammit
3rd November 2010, 19:21
Kari Lynn, well if that was 10 years ago, god only knows who has them as we could even have had them done as operations, dentist visits or vacines.
I personally think it is important to be able to perform a personal scan to determine if we had one and where we had it. I would be happy to blow the **** out of it if I knew I did but only a worthwhile venture if I did not blow the **** out of my self too.

Blessings

Ammit

Leon
10th November 2010, 12:23
I heard several stories, not sure how true they are but worth investigating: In Spain some hospitals are chipping patients in order to process them quicker. I also heard that they were chipping trouble kids in the UK. and the latest I heard that in Holland they are chipping all new born kids without saying anything.
It wouldn't be difficult to chip the whole population...
It has begun...

MichalPtacnik
10th November 2010, 14:49
Well, not to be controversial or anything, but I would not want to be in the shoes of a person that talked someone out of verichiping their kid and the next night he dissapeared and several days later, found dead and raped; all that would have saved him would be the Chip.

The same with the controled shops, technology, etc. We are coming into an era where technology is going to be more and more dangerous and the network will just get tighter. We have an oportunity to act intelligently and to moderate this, but without totally oposing any and all control, because in the current state of mankind, control is necessary. For proof, just look at the news or out on the street. If we don't do it, initiate it ourselves, as a people, someone else will do it, outside and around us. Control of goods, for instance, as opposed to people, could easily bring us a Zeitgeist like near utopia, since there would be a barrier on who can take what and bellow that all common goods could be free, etc. And control does that, because it helps eliminate those who would take too much. On the other hand, control could harm, infringe into your own personal rights and even kill you. The difference is who controls and on the behalf of whom and of what agenda. :)

In a "consciousness shifted" world, yeah, screw control. But we don't live in such a world, we need crooks to control bigger crooks, in essence, because otherwise we'd be ruled by the worst of them. Even now we already are, because we have surrendered... well, control to them.

Of course as for the Chip, I understand that in it's current state it is probably not healthly, so yeah, don't use it, but what if tomorrow it could be OK after the poisonous substances or whatever it is that is causing the negative reactions are removed?

The evil lays in the intent, generally, not in the technologies.

Ammit
10th November 2010, 15:12
I think I would still try and zap it. Alex Collier mentions strong ultraviolet light to kill them, hopefully there would not be some form of failsafe involved. I would still like more information on the chips and if anyone has any ideas about frequencies they send out...

MichalPtacnik
10th November 2010, 15:16
It would be probably easier to infringe with the outcomming signal. Carry a strong magnet in the right position and voila, the chip is useless unless it radiates something REALLY exotic.

Barron
10th November 2010, 19:27
And i just read this yesterday too!!! - Novartis announced today that it would begin microchipping pills, enabling sensors to track the "compliance" of pill-popping patients.

But this technology is raising huge red flags here at NaturalNews. In today's story, I explain why this may be dangerous medicine that could violate your privacy:
http://www.naturalnews.com/030341_microchips_drugs.html

Scary!

bluestflame
27th November 2010, 14:12
no doubt as part of the clever mass marketing campaign they'll be offering free giveaways , these are the people behind advertising, marketing and surveys seeing what moves people and customising the packaging to suit the individual

witchy1
9th January 2011, 00:28
but I would not want to be in the shoes of a person that talked someone out of verichiping their kid and the next night he dissapeared and several days later, found dead and raped; all that would have saved him would be the Chip.

This will be THE very message given to the public to ensure compliance. Prey on fears and instill guilt....... problem chaos solution

ADDIT: watch for media shows and disinfo forum regarding missing people/children