Is it wise to have wisdom teeth removed?

[East Sun]

My son who is 21 was told by his dentist that he should have his wisdom teeth removed. They are not bothering him in any way.

I think he should leave them alone and in the future if there's a problem he can have them taken care of then.

Any one have info. on the benefits or dangers of removing or leaving them as they are?

[Siberia9]

There is one downside to leaving them in, and that is that the bottom of the tooth at the root continues to grow and gets longer as we get older, like fish hooks. I just found that out and its going to make it harder to get mine out now that Im 42. These Drs are trained that they can not leave more than 4mm of tooth in the jaw. I think this is stupid buy anyway.

[Jonathon]

Definitely leave them alone if they aren't causing any problems. Here is some info from Walter Last (LINK (http://www.health-science-spirit.com/dental.html)). Also the Weston Price material would be good to consult for dietary management. You can search for "teeth healing diet" in your browser and find many resources. This would be preventative in your son's case if there are no current issues.

TEETH - ORGAN CONNECTIONS
(Teeth are numbered from 1 to 8 starting at the mid-line of the jaw).
1 & 2 upper & lower jaw
kidney, bladder, pineal gland (upper jaw), adrenals (lower jaw), frontal sinus, sacrum, coccyx, foot.

3 upper & lower jaw
liver, gall bladder, hip, eye, pituitary (upper jaw), gonads (lower jaw).

4, 5 upper & 6, 7 lower jaw
lung, large intestine, shoulder, elbow, thymus (upper jaw), arteries, veins (lower jaw).

4, 5 lower & 6, 7 upper jaw
pancreas, spleen, stomach, breast, thyroid (upper jaw), lymph system (lower jaw), jaws, knee.

8 upper & lower
heart, small intestines, shoulder, elbow, ear, nervous system, pituitary (upper jaw).

[marielle]

My wisdom teeth weren't bothering me but my orthodontist told me to have them removed because they were threatening 2 years of progress with my braces. The threat of having to wear a horse collar again (remember those?) was enough to convince me to do it. If it hadn't been for that, I wouldn't have gone through the pain and expense.

[lightning23]

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[conk]

Yes Jonathon, Dr. Price clearly showed how indigenious cultures had zero issues with their teeth until western foods (sugar and refined flour mainly) were introduced. Once they began eating junky foods their whole dental and facial structures changed in one generation! This is one reason so many of us have had major dental work. It's the crap we ate as kids!!! Or what our mother ate during pregnancy.

Teeth are pizo electric conductors. Keep them all if you can.

[wolf_rt]

all mine came through on angles and hit the teeth in front, i had one out as it was giving me headaches, the others are hard to keep clean due to the fact they arn't all the way through, but no dramas

[vibrations]

My son who is 21 was told by his dentist that he should have his wisdom teeth removed. They are not bothering him in any way.

I think he should leave them alone and in the future if there's a problem he can have them taken care of then.

Any one have info. on the benefits or dangers of removing or leaving them as they are?

The answer is included in the question. Our ancestors related the growth of this teeth with a age of (apparent) physical maturity but also it looks like this teeth has another, absolutely unknown connection with a energetic flux of our body. The inner wisdom is telling you not to touch them, because the human body is perfect and doesn't need some smart medical "experts" to tell you "remove this, remove that". If the wisdom teeth are making problems, the best would be investigate with which psychological behavior are connected and rebalanced that and not put away a part of the body. Off course it's easy for the dentist to advise you that and he's even payed for it from your pocket, so don't trust what they say, explore other options. The traditional Chinese medicine established relations among all the organs of the body and the new psychosomatic approach goes even further to identify the real cause of any dis-ease.

[Karma Ninja]

I had a similar experience to some here where my wisdom teeth were growing in fine and were not causing any problems but my dentist insisted to my parents that I have them removed. The parents in our neighborhood always said it was a cash grab by dentists if they took them out without a reason.

My wife had headaches for years and when she had them removed got instant relief. For her it seems it was a good thing...

[Connecting with Sauce]

I'd check out the dental health section of oneradionetwork... if teeth are removed by standard dentists 99.9% they most likely will cause a cavitation to form... many shows discuss this and a specific method is used to allow the clot to heal correctly.

[WhiteFeather]

I don't recommend it!


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[seehas]

so whats the point if u dont got any wisdom teeth? ... years ago the dentist told me that i dont have any...

i dont got wisdom .. :(

[Anchor]

About 23 years ago I was self employed, and started to have problems which required my Wisdom teeth out. I was worried about loosing time, and I was pretty gung-ho about it at the time and hired a dentist and anesthetist to do it after work one day and had the lot out in one go.

In hindsight I recognize that this is known as a total loss of perspective :)

So rather than saving time and being back at work fast... I spent the next two days in bed looking like a freaking chipmunk and soaking my pillows in blood.

No pain, but I was not fully under when they did it and I remember everything they did, (all the noises - yuk) and I think I went semi-OOB at one stage. One of the teeth, the last one was hanging on and was not going to go - Anethetist was holding my body down, Dentist had his knee on my chest and was furiously working with something that looked medieval rock mining equipment - doing battle to the death with my tooth.

I retreated inwards and I had a conversation with the tooth and tell it that it was ok, this is what I wanted and that it had done its job and I wanted it to let go... Crunch - out it came.

Afterwards, the Dentist was telling me he was worried that it wasnt going to come out, then all of a sudden it let go.

I learned a lot from this - on all kinds of levels.

Loosing my Wisdom teeth, gave me an opportunity to gain some!

C'est la vie.

Do what feels right and what your heart wants and you'll be fine.

[Lily de Cuir]

Hi All,

Anchor, I can relate to your story! When mine came through they kept going up and down! All four of 'em. It was a nightmare. They would break through the gum then recede into the gum, then after a few weeks the dang things came up again. This went on 6 months or more, until I couldn't stand it.

Dentist said all of them had straight roots, so should be no probs. Yup. Well, the anaesthetic didn't work, had laughing gas (which they kept turning up), meanwhile I could feel everything. I was moaning and groaning like I was in labour.

Cut a long story short, I looked like one of those puffer fishes for awhile, then the gums got infected. Was on major painkillers. In the end I refused to pay the bill because of what I went through. He agreed and never charged me.

Anyway, I had no choice in the matter, they had to be yanked out...

Just thought I'd share that little horror story with y'all.:jaw:

Love Lily

[skyflower]

If the teeth are not causing any problems, then keep them. You might need them in the future.

I read an article earlier this year about the breakthroughs of modern medicine which makes "growing" teeth in a near future a possibility. (sorry, can't locate the article :( )
But here is the catch: the stem cell needed to grow the teeth comes from your wisdom tooth. So by all means, if they are not causing you problems, keep them. :)

[enfoldedblue]

Back when I was about 19 my dentist told me I had to get my wisdom teeth out. So I went ahead to make the apointment, but when I found out the cost...ouch....I said no thanks maybe later. They weren't bothering me so I decided to wait till I either had more money, or was being affected in some way. Well a couple of years later when I was back in the dentist chair, my dentist (the same one) said "well your wisdom teeth have come in nicely"!!!! They have never caused me any problems, I'm so glad I didn't follow his advice at the time. I think it has just become common practice, and dentists often recommend ripping them out as par for the course. If they are not causing any problems I would recommmend a wait and see approach...no need to suffer for nothing.

And on the suffering note....One of my best friends was getting his wisdom teeth pulled by his dentist. SHe gave him a local and began to yank...he said it was incredibly painful, but worse was the nervous breathing and look of fear on his dentists face. Half way through the extraction, she said "oh I'm sorry I just can't do it", and put him in a cab (with his tooth halfway out) and sent him to another dentist!!! (Not that this is likely to happen of course...just a shocking wisdom tooth story lol)

[DeDukshyn]

My son who is 21 was told by his dentist that he should have his wisdom teeth removed. They are not bothering him in any way.

I think he should leave them alone and in the future if there's a problem he can have them taken care of then.

Any one have info. on the benefits or dangers of removing or leaving them as they are?

Here's my story:
Never had water with fluoride in it until I was an adult, never brushed my teeth, ate all the sugar in the world you could imagine as a kid (used to take my lunch money and just buy candy for lunch), and I have seen the dentist about 3 times in my entire life. I have all my wisdom teeth and have the best teeth of anyone I know (I think they may be able to use a little work now (I'm 37), they aren't bothering me in the least though).

The main issue with wisdom teeth for me was that when they came in they pushed all my lower teeth forward a bit and now I have one crooked tooth in the front (big whoopty doo). So if he's 21 and they are already up - I'd say leave them. If they aren't up yet, then consider when they do come up they'll be pushing things around.

I can tell mine are a little bit more maintenance than my other teeth, so I treat them well and spend far more time brushing them than the others - I think this important.

I just did a bit of quick research and pretty much the only reason to remove them is if they are sideways (which isn't uncommon) because they likely won't grow in properly anyway. I'm pretty sure any other pitch is a sales tactic.

Dentists are used car salesmen pitching snake oil. I have no idea how these dental organizations have been able to function as they do and even encroaching in areas that are clearly healthcare issues and not "dental" issues. I'm 99% sure that all these "Dental Association of <insert country name here>" groups were merely instituted as agents of authoritative "positive reasoning" of the forced fluoride poisonings of the masses.

Here's another story: My sister is told she needs $3000 work done. Gets the work started, has to move to a new city, actually stumbles across an honest dentist who fixes up what was wrecked and told her her teeth were fine (because to "fix" you teeth they have to wreck your teeth - that way once it starts you can't go back - this seems less significant than it should be because most don't know that teeth can repair themselves - albeit a slow process)

So there's my anecdotes and clearly biased opinion on dentists, (I'll suggest to get 5 or six "professional" opinions before deciding to do it, lol ;-), take it for what it is worth ;)

[DeDukshyn]

There is one downside to leaving them in, and that is that the bottom of the tooth at the root continues to grow and gets longer as we get older, like fish hooks. I just found that out and its going to make it harder to get mine out now that Im 42. These Drs are trained that they can not leave more than 4mm of tooth in the jaw. I think this is stupid buy anyway.

I think this is also tactic. A good dentist can do the job. I did a bit of searching (albeit not a whole lot) and can't find support for it being that big an issue. If they are still in good shape just try to take care of them - teeth can repair themselves but one needs to get sugar out of their blood first which means no sugars or simple carbs, and a diet rich in full spectrum minerals and lots of water. Unfortunately, western diets are almost entirely consistent on sugars and carbs (which get turned into sugar in the blood -- get rid of processed grains too - well, I'm not telling you to, I'm just doing a general speech now ;-). The sugars in the blood pull minerals from teeth and bones - particularly calcium (wonder why osteoporosis is increasing so much these days, eh?) -- it's a PH balancing thing I believe but someone can correct me if I am wrong. So if one eliminates those, and keeps their hydration level high (The majority of the population is chronically dehydrated), then the minerals that are naturally are present in your saliva are more in abundance to be absorbed to strengthen the enamel; not to mention every adult tooth has a blood supply to give it nourishment from the inside.

All that huge rant said (again - this turned into a soapbox speech - no longer directed at the person I quoted ;-), teeth are meant to be treated from the inside of your body, and only on the outside when extreme issues call for it (i.e. infections, major cavities, abscesses) which is usually best dealt with by pulling the tooth. I know way too many people that have infections carry on under their dental work. But it keeps them coming back to the dentists delight. Ever notice that the price for pulling teeth has skyrocketed? That's called deterrence.

Ok I'm done, really. I have to take my 5 yr old back to the dentist at 7:00 am tomorrow and it's way across the city. This is after $2500 worth of work that was over my dental plan, that I had to pay out of pocket and my son still has a mouthful of pain. So lot's of bias here - but my anecdotes are factual and my claims are verifiable.

[angel in disguise]

so whats the point if u dont got any wisdom teeth? ... years ago the dentist told me that i dont have any...

i dont got wisdom .. :(

Yes ditto... I never had wisdom teeth and at 38 probably never will... BUT... I certainly consider myself wise. What does it mean?

[DeDukshyn]

so whats the point if u dont got any wisdom teeth? ... years ago the dentist told me that i dont have any...

i dont got wisdom .. :(

Yes ditto... I never had wisdom teeth and at 38 probably never will... BUT... I certainly consider myself wise. What does it mean?

And a few people I know don't have their teeth that should be on the front side of their incisors. Evolutionarily, the explanation is due to a more refined diet - less hunted/gathered food and "eat all you can digest" of old times no longer applies so the adaptation is smaller mouths, and thus less teeth.

Either that or we are slowly being mutated into greys by chemtrails ;-)

[Ellisa]

I have 3 adult kids. One had all her wisdom teeth out. She has a small mouth and not only was there not a lot of room for the teeth but 2 were growing sideways! She had the extraction done in hospital, which was good because that was how we found out she was allergic to penicillin! She was in hospital for 2 days.

Second one (actually the eldest) had 3 removed in day surgery. The 4th tooth is still there 20 years later.

The third still has all 3 of her wisdom teeth. Number 4 tooth vanished!

I still have the 2 of mine that appeared.

However nowadays they do seem to be removed more often, almost routinely. I was told this actually is because the jaw is slowly getting smaller. (all those soft Big Macs instead of tearing the meat from the bones and chewing I suppose.)

So- should you have them out. Yes , if it is necessary. They can decay under the skin and that spreads to the jaw-bone- very painful and nasty to fix. But take them out for no reason--- probably not.
The best idea is find a dentist to trust and find out exactly why he wants to remove healthy looking teeth. There could be a valid reason. If there isn't, wait a while!

[East Sun]

Thanks everyone. I'll give the pros and cons to my son and let him decide. His Mom wants him to have them taken out so that's probably what he'll do. If it was me I'd keep them.

[Arrowwind]

You should NOT take them out unless they are bothering you. Many people do not have a mouth big enough for them.. so why suffer?