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Black Panther
15th November 2011, 22:19
Eckhart Tolle describes the conscious state with the moment right before
falling asleep. It feels great, so being in that state for the rest of my life
would be nice ;). It makes me think of people talking about an Out of Body
experience. The emotions people describe having an OOB experience
are calmness, happiness, blissfulness etc.

When I almost fell asleep the other day I was thinking of trying to stay in
that state. Is it possible to meditate on that state without falling asleep ?
To stay in it ?

I don't have OOB experience and I haven't done research about this subject,
but maybe there are others with experience ?

Eckhart explained the feeling of bliss because of reduced thinking before
falling asleep.

Time to sleep :wink:

:sleep:

Margi
15th November 2011, 23:12
Yes, I try to stay in that state longer.
My body gives me a signal when I almost fall asleep - blink, twitch muscle ... And I returned in the same condition.
Just then I happened to hear words in my head or sharp noise (usually no sense to me) or I see colors, shapes or pictures that I can not follow because they are moving in fast motion.
I hope I am able to express understandable :sorry: :)
I will be interested to read the shared experience.

Cjay
16th November 2011, 13:17
You CAN learn to consciously go into this state. Google "Alpha Dynamics". I first heard about it from my parents, about 20 years ago.

Zillah
16th November 2011, 13:40
AHHHH yes the 'right before sleep' feeling -- it is so the best.

I have mastered this throughout the years as I also feel this particular moment, you can sense particular things you cannot in all other states.

I use music as a key. Right before I'd like to enter, I put on a very long piece (uninterrupted) of something meditative (like Tibetan Bowls, or other) and close my eyes. For me, the music (with the perfect volume) doesn't allow me to enter full sleep, but it relaxes me enough (along with my tired body willing) where it allows me to get right there, and stay there.

As mentioned above, my body will slightly twitch/snap a few times, but I then calm myself and re-enter very easily.

During this moment I see very clear visuals, multiple realities play out right before me, sensations I can fall into (and stay if i love it). A'ha moments will occur, or in some cases I will even face and clear fears during this state.

Once I had my partner massaging me and I entered the state while he was doing so -- I remember coming back to full reality an hour or two later with my first thoughts --- WOW, he actually massaged me for this long?!?!?... he sure does love me today!! haha!! But then I realized moments later, he was actually gone (to later find was gone for nearly the WHOLE TIME) but my conscious/ subconscious took that imprint of him massaging me in that few minutes -- and actually made occur with him being completely out of the room.

Its wonderful!

RMorgan
16th November 2011, 14:17
Yes, my friend. Itīs possible to achieve this state of mind by meditation. You just have to practice. Itīs not that easy, but if you practice meditation daily, for about 6 months to 1 year, Iīm sure youīll get it. Itīs really wonderful indeed.

Black Panther
16th November 2011, 16:47
Yes, I try to stay in that state longer.
My body gives me a signal when I almost fall asleep - blink, twitch muscle ... And I returned in the same condition.
Just then I happened to hear words in my head or sharp noise (usually no sense to me) or I see colors, shapes or pictures that I can not follow because they are moving in fast motion.
I hope I am able to express understandable :sorry: :)
I will be interested to read the shared experience.

Thank you for sharing. When I almost fell asleep the other day I suddenly had the idea to start a thread about this subject. But because of that I returned to the thinking state in stead of the falling asleep state :).

Most of the time I am aware of falling asleep, but I actually fall asleep very soon afterwards without being consiouscess of words / noise / colours etc.

It's a great way of experiencing the-not-so-much-thinking state. I think the most important reason people having difficulties falling asleep is because of thinking too much. Because it's dark, dark thoughts will rise and it won't solve anything. By being conscious at daytime we can do the rights things at the right time.

Margi
16th November 2011, 19:52
Thank you for sharing. When I almost fell asleep the other day I suddenly had the idea to start a thread about this subject. But because of that I returned to the thinking state in stead of the falling asleep state :).

Most of the time I am aware of falling asleep, but I actually fall asleep very soon afterwards without being consiouscess of words / noise / colours etc.

It's a great way of experiencing the-not-so-much-thinking state. I think the most important reason people having difficulties falling asleep is because of thinking too much. Because it's dark, dark thoughts will rise and it won't solve anything. By being conscious at daytime we can do the rights things at the right time.

I am asleep very difficult. I have enough time to settle my mind to relax my body.
Not necessarily something to happen. Just soar weightless and as ignoring mind if he goes somewhere.
Interestingly, the mind finally silent, apparently tired of his role of headstrong donkey. :)
Does not apply "power", be an observer, watching ...
Do not analyze if you can. :)
I remember many years ago, maybe 7-8, I deliberately stopped all attempts towards meditation. Scared, not knowing what happens ...
I started to feel a swing in my body ever stronger and stronger ...
As a liquid in a bottle.
I jump out of bed and thought crazy. :)
Now I am glad that there are other crazy enough with which to share. :)