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Fred Steeves
17th November 2011, 22:32
Hi everybody, I know a lot more about science now than the average guy on the street, but with the company I keep here I'm a mere babe in swaddling clothes on those matters. I want to pick a brain or two on something that's been bothering me.

Every now and then I'll come across a show describing how astronomers are hunting for distant earth like planets by aiming their telescopes on a given star, and then watching for a potential planet's orbit to reveal it's presence by moving in between the star and the observer. Sounds like a winner, except for one thing: What if the orbit doesn't take the planet in that in between path? Is it really that hit and miss? It can't be...Can it?

It seems to me the whole thing is presented to us in the same fashion as our little solar system here, with the planets all in a nice little orbital line, and if you were entering from elsewhere you would naturally pass them one by one as you made your way towards the sun, right? Well, if you were approaching from a perpindicular direction under that model, you wouldn't pass by any planets at all, would you? You would just go straight to the sun.

In the same manner, whenever we're shown an animation of a craft approaching earth, we always see the beautiful equatorial approach, but what if you were approaching straight towards a pole, wouldn't it look completely different, atleast til you got there and checked out elsewhere?

See what I'm getting at? We're always shown this straight on perspective, like we see daily driving down a road, but me no think it's that way in interstellar space exploration.

Cheers,
Fred

Eagle
17th November 2011, 22:44
Do you mean that in Star Trek the ships dont actually face each other head on? I get what you are saying again we are told to think in a Linier concept and not actual 4D

hectorlca
17th November 2011, 23:12
Hi Fred!

The way they can tell (or so we're told) is not by catching the planet between the star and the telescope. It is mostly through indirect observation; they observe the star and somehow determine if there is a body having gravitational effects on it.

Does the star show an object is pulling on it? -- That type of question. I'm not sure how they can tell if there are multiple planets orbiting around a star...got me thinking.

Cheers.

hector

Heyoka_11
18th November 2011, 00:09
Hiya Fred,

Mate, I am going to stick my neck out here, with the distinct potential to miss by a stellar mile.

Could it be as simple as all the solar systems in a galaxy having their individual planes of rotation basically parallel to the galaxies own plane of rotation?

Kinda makes sense to me when taking into account centrifugal forces.

Kimberley
18th November 2011, 00:16
Hey there gentlemen... Fred, Dig, & Hector... Hector is a new-be here in Avalon however he and I have been friends for 3 years... Hector was at my home with my family for 11-11-11 I suggest you all friend each other here on Avalon and connect....

As far as the topic here .. I could contribute but need to put dinner on the table for the family... I will do my best to revisit this discussion if I can...
But the most important part of me finding this thread was to suggest that the tree of you ...Dig, Fred, & Hector know that you three are in sync from my knowing of the three of you!!!

Much love my brothers!!! I can not express in words how gratefull I am to be in communion with you all!!!...

Much love to us all!! :luv: