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WhiteFeather
18th November 2011, 01:29
Check This Out! Just Stumbled Across This. Very Interesting!
For You Hollistic Avalonian Peeps.

Including Over 100 Case Histories of Persons Cured:
Plus two revolutionary electronic circuits, one to diagnose and monitor progress,
the other to zap parasites and bacteria!


Hulda Regehr Clark, Ph.D.,N.D

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Hulda.pdf

Jonathon
18th November 2011, 14:43
Bump- great stuff Whitefeather - got through a good bit of it, and it seems totally legit. The toxicity rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper. Really good information - I encourage all to read. Covers recipes. how to detox/cleanse, how to modify your foods and environment, handle dental issues etc.

WhiteFeather
18th November 2011, 14:56
I was reading the Parasite Killing Program on page 19,,,, great stuff for my son, he has a slight form of herpes. The Outbreaks occur on his lip every few months. I'm gonna try the home remedy using Black Walnut Hull Tincture.... Extra Strength...sounds legit to me. Hope he goes for it! Its hard to give home remedies to people, when they rely too much on mainstream medicine.

conk
18th November 2011, 16:13
Thanks! I have several of Dr. Clark's books. She is defininately hot about parasites, solvents, chemicals, and other toxins. I've used her detox protocol. Not unpleasant.

Krullenjongen
18th November 2011, 19:05
Thanks for posting, it's good to have a digital copy also.
Too bad Hulda recently died, i hope her work will go mainstream sometime and someone will follow in her footsteps.
This would help a lot of people get cured from cancer.

Muzz
18th November 2011, 19:15
Many thanks WhiteFeather.

seko
18th November 2011, 19:18
I was reading the Parasite Killing Program on page 19,,,, great stuff for my son, he has a slight form of herpes. The Outbreaks occur on his lip every few months. I'm gonna try the home remedy using Black Walnut Hull Tincture.... Extra Strength...sounds legit to me. Hope he goes for it! Its hard to give home remedies to people, when they rely too much on mainstream medicine.

Hi WF, I treated a couple with Herpes with MMS and it got rid of it within two months. This couple was almost breaking apart because no one knew from where they got it, but now that it's gone, they are happy and now they use MMS for many more things and are spreading the word about MMS.

Jonathon
19th November 2011, 18:14
After getting through a good bit of the information, I have to say my overall feelings are mixed. The dietary advice is pretty weak and poorly cited - it's in direct opposition of the multitude of sources and information I have been gathering and applying. The claim that sticks out the most is the "Milk best source of calcium" claim which is patently false, yet is asserted as if it were undeniably proven. That doesn't mean all the info is necessarily wrong, but it does mean I am having trouble resolving it all.

The information regarding HIV/AIDs I find un-credible. There is far more evidence that HIV is 'manufactured' than it originating from a parasite. Doesn't mean there isn't a correlation somehow, however I don't feel that Hulda did a very convincing job of demonstrating it. She seems to rely very heavily on the devices of her own invention, however if she was correct in her assertions, they would be relatively easy to validate scientifically. The same goes for her assertions on cancer and other illnesses. NOTE: I have not read her HIV book and have only seen excerpts and have read the data in this cancer book linked above.

I do believe there is a strong parasitic connection to some illnesses, however this is just one part of the story. The claim that 'all cancer' and other diseases is purely parasitic is fully unsubstantiated and borders on totally ignorant/irresponsible. Once again, I have not studied her full body of work completely - this is my impression after a few hours of reading and referencing.

I do think she is on to 'something' but it doesn't appear this was fully realized - not even close. Bob Beck, Gerson and others would be important to understand fully prior to considering Hulda's work. Many of the supposed cancer cures out there that we are familiar with from baking soda, juicing, THC and so on could be considered refuted and disproven should Hulda's work be taken at face value; and chemo/radiation would have a much higher cure rate. These things don't add up for me.

I do find the work interesting - some of the ideas resonate, however due diligence is missing in a big way. This cancer book is a "silver bullet claim", and most reasonable people would agree that there is no such thing. We are too varied, as is our environment, nature, purpose and make-up.

I did check the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulda_Regehr_Clark) however I find most of it unreliable and riddled with heavy western medical bias. There are a couple of telling points that should be considered however - such as her claims of university degree (zoology, not physiology as she claimed) and her apparent death from the very disease for which she claimed to have the cure (that being cancer).

Once again - I have only covered some of the surface here. I think Hulda was heading in the right direction **sort-of**. I think she got derailed, backed into a corner and either fear, greed or pure survival mode took over, eliminating the needed scientific neutrality that she needed to realize the full and accurate potential of this work.

I absolutely agree that everyone should take the level of responsibility that Hulda recommends in cleaning up their diet, environment and freeing themselves from as many potential invaders and toxins as possible. However I also believe in internal harmony. Your inner body is an elaborate bio-chemical machine and ecosystem that must be kept in proper balance. As most of us know, this balance is very difficult to achieve because we rely on a limited pool of information, products and sources.

My opinions here are partially speculative; partially on firm ground. However I would recommend being careful with this information. Do your own due diligence.

Lord Sidious
19th November 2011, 18:19
Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

Jonathon
19th November 2011, 18:31
Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

I resonate highly with that info as well LS, however because of the information-squeeze, disinfo and outright suppression, the full nature and understanding of the work is missing. The question must be asked: what exactly are the full short and long term effects of zapping and under what conditions? I would love to take 1st chair in that research, whether as a subject or direct participant. I don't refute it, I'm just saying we don't have all of the information.

WhiteFeather
19th November 2011, 18:33
By Jonathan "The claim that sticks out the most is the "Milk best source of calcium" claim which is patently false, yet is asserted as if it were undeniably proven. That doesn't mean all the info is necessarily wrong, but it does mean I am having trouble resolving it all".


At the time the Cancer Book was written in 1993 is it possible that milk is/was the best sort of calcium? I'm not sure. But Good Point though, Jonathan.

By Jonathan: I absolutely agree that everyone should take the level of responsibility that Hulda recommends in cleaning up their diet, environment and freeing themselves from as many potential invaders and toxins as possible. However I also believe in internal harmony. Your inner body is an elaborate bio-chemical machine and ecosystem that must be kept in proper balance. As most of us know, this balance is very difficult to achieve because we rely on a limited pool of information, products and sources.

Nice Ad, that works for me as well Jonathan. Awesome Statement There!

Jonathon
19th November 2011, 18:40
Pasteurized milk depletes calcium due to the acidic pH effect. If she is going to make the claim, then it needs to be supported with citations and studies in the book. "Common knowledge" of the time is speculative at best. If you are going to speculate, that's OK - just say so. If you are asserting a fact, then that requires some evidence. If you are using that fact as a driver for your thesis, it better darn well be cited from multiple sources. My understanding is: an acidic blood condition creates a more hospitable environment for parasites. If this is true (and it appears to be), then it's a contradiction to a large part of her work that she needs to clarify.

Lord Sidious
19th November 2011, 18:42
Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

I resonate highly with that info as well LS, however because of the information-squeeze, disinfo and outright suppression, the full nature and understanding of the work is missing. The question must be asked: what exactly are the full short and long term effects of zapping and under what conditions? I would love to take 1st chair in that research, whether as a subject or direct participant. I don't refute it, I'm just saying we don't have all of the information.

I would be of the opinion that if you set the machine to resonate at a certain frequency and the only thing in your body at that frequency was a parasite, then you should have no after affects at all.
In theory.
I have had someone use one on me and I seem to be ok.
Maybe. :p

WhiteFeather
19th November 2011, 18:45
I totally agree with you on that Jonothan with regards to an acid body, I have read that a normal or higher alkaline body/PH Body is much more likely not to get illness/disease/cancer etc That definitely resonates with me.. http://www.b17.com.au/copy.asp?sect=q3&page=ph a great wealth of info here!

WhiteFeather
19th November 2011, 18:58
Jonathan When You Get A Chance See If This Resonates With You, Can You Please Research This As Well. Colloidal Silver - a simple homemade remedy for most illnesses: cancer, AIDS, Lyme's disease, arthritic pain, skin burns. Here's The E-book. http://www.free-energy-info.com/Silver.pdf http://www.free-energy-info.com/Silver.pdf

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Silver.pdf

modwiz
19th November 2011, 18:59
I totally agree with you on that Jonothan with regards to an acid body, I have read that a normal or higher alkaline body/PH Body is much more likely not to get illness/disease/cancer etc That definitely resonates with me.. http://www.b17.com.au a great wealth of info here.

When I was in massage school, during our anatomy and physiology studies we conducted an experiment with our urine with a tape that could reveal certain contents in it. Of course, one of the things indicated was pH. The average pH in the class was 5. All of the vegetarians averaged 8. Mine was 8. To say I am impervious to illness is really not an overstatement. It would be remiss of me to leave out my attitude/intent. I tell myself and my immune system that being ill is being weak and we both believe it. Consequently, I am superwiz. Only really bad eating habits or extremes of emotional stress can lower my immune system. The less than a handful of colds in over twenty years has always occurred during a downer period.

When I speak of my immunity and general disease free body, people will tell me to knock on wood and my reply is, "My health is not a superstition".

Just a little more attitude for my immune system to hear.:p

WhiteFeather
19th November 2011, 19:02
The mind also attributes to a healthy body, Indeed thats true for me as well....Thanks Mod. Now Pass The Pipe! Stop Bogarting It.


http://annieais101.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/indian_with_peace_pipe.jpg?w=500&h=357

modwiz
19th November 2011, 19:04
The mind also attributes to a healthy body, Indeed thats true for me as well....Thanks Mod. Now Pass The Pipe! Stop Bogarting It.


http://annieais101.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/indian_with_peace_pipe.jpg?w=500&h=357

Perhaps one day we should meet in Albany for lunch.

WhiteFeather
19th November 2011, 19:06
That is a possibility my vegetarian brother! We could eat mushrooms and dandelions, who needs steak dam it..... LoL : )

modwiz
19th November 2011, 19:09
Jonathan When You Get A Chance See If This Resonates With You, Can You Please Research This As Well. Colloidal Silver - a simple homemade remedy for most illnesses: cancer, AIDS, Lyme's disease, arthritic pain, skin burns. Here's The E-book. http://www.free-energy-info.com/Silver.pdf http://www.free-energy-info.com/Silver.pdf

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Silver.pdf

Colloidal silver is great stuff and can be very effective when made correctly. I, however, like to have my very hardy immune system handle all interlopers, sometimes with an assist from vitamin C and Echinacea that work with the immune system instead of for it. To my mind taking colloidal silver might insult my immune system. Kinda like if my wife had some guy come into the house to do my 'work'.

That's just me and my wacky self though.

modwiz
19th November 2011, 19:13
That is a possibility my vegetarian brother! We could eat mushrooms and dandelions, who needs steak dam it..... LoL : )

I was thinking more of veggie Mexican. There is a good place on Wolf Rd. that I went to during school.

seko
19th November 2011, 19:18
That is a possibility my vegetarian brother! We could eat mushrooms and dandelions, who needs steak dam it..... LoL : )

I was thinking more of veggie Mexican. There is a good place on Wolf Rd. that I went to during school.

Please share that veggie mexican Modwiz, salsas and mushroom quesadillas may be?? I might be eating in a similar way. :p

HORIZONS
19th November 2011, 19:32
That is a possibility my vegetarian brother! We could eat mushrooms and dandelions, who needs steak dam it..... LoL : )

I was thinking more of veggie Mexican. There is a good place on Wolf Rd. that I went to during school.

Please share that veggie mexican Modwiz, salsas and mushroom quesadillas may be?? I might be eating in a similar way. :p

I always get very strange looks when I order a Mexican dish with no meat, or like yesterday at the local authentic Mexican place in town I ordered a veggie-burrito supreme, and they brought me a chicken burrito supreme with no veggies - sometimes the language barrier is really a drag. It took some explaining, but they finally got it right. lol!

HORIZONS
19th November 2011, 19:58
I was reading the Parasite Killing Program on page 19,,,, great stuff for my son, he has a slight form of herpes. The Outbreaks occur on his lip every few months. I'm gonna try the home remedy using Black Walnut Hull Tincture.... Extra Strength...sounds legit to me. Hope he goes for it! Its hard to give home remedies to people, when they rely too much on mainstream medicine.

Hi WF, I treated a couple with Herpes with MMS and it got rid of it within two months. This couple was almost breaking apart because no one knew from where they got it, but now that it's gone, they are happy and now they use MMS for many more things and are spreading the word about MMS.

Does anyone know where a good safe reliable place to purchase MMS in the USA is?

modwiz
19th November 2011, 20:14
I was reading the Parasite Killing Program on page 19,,,, great stuff for my son, he has a slight form of herpes. The Outbreaks occur on his lip every few months. I'm gonna try the home remedy using Black Walnut Hull Tincture.... Extra Strength...sounds legit to me. Hope he goes for it! Its hard to give home remedies to people, when they rely too much on mainstream medicine.

The herpes outbreaks will lessen over time as long as his overall immune system s0tays healthy. There is a reason they got the name cold sores. It is during lowered immune times, exhibited by symptoms of a cold, that the sores most often appeared.

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Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

Unfortunately, the World isn't rife with these machines currently. :p

modwiz
19th November 2011, 20:17
Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

I resonate highly with that info as well LS, however because of the information-squeeze, disinfo and outright suppression, the full nature and understanding of the work is missing. The question must be asked: what exactly are the full short and long term effects of zapping and under what conditions? I would love to take 1st chair in that research, whether as a subject or direct participant. I don't refute it, I'm just saying we don't have all of the information.

I would be of the opinion that if you set the machine to resonate at a certain frequency and the only thing in your body at that frequency was a parasite, then you should have no after affects at all.
In theory.
I have had someone use one on me and I seem to be ok.
Maybe. :p

Rife had a separate kind of microscope that allowed him to identify the specific frequency of a given pathogen. He would then zap the body with this very narrow bandwidth, utterly 'shattering' the cause of the illness.

Lord Sidious
19th November 2011, 20:31
I was reading the Parasite Killing Program on page 19,,,, great stuff for my son, he has a slight form of herpes. The Outbreaks occur on his lip every few months. I'm gonna try the home remedy using Black Walnut Hull Tincture.... Extra Strength...sounds legit to me. Hope he goes for it! Its hard to give home remedies to people, when they rely too much on mainstream medicine.

The herpes outbreaks will lessen over time as long as his overall immune system s0tays healthy. There is a reason they got the name cold sores. It is during lowered immune times, exhibited by symptoms of a cold, that the sores most often appeared.

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Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

Unfortunately, the World isn't rife with these machines currently. :p

You can get them integrated into the SCIO machine, from what I recall.

modwiz
19th November 2011, 20:35
I was reading the Parasite Killing Program on page 19,,,, great stuff for my son, he has a slight form of herpes. The Outbreaks occur on his lip every few months. I'm gonna try the home remedy using Black Walnut Hull Tincture.... Extra Strength...sounds legit to me. Hope he goes for it! Its hard to give home remedies to people, when they rely too much on mainstream medicine.

The herpes outbreaks will lessen over time as long as his overall immune system s0tays healthy. There is a reason they got the name cold sores. It is during lowered immune times, exhibited by symptoms of a cold, that the sores most often appeared.

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Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

Unfortunately, the World isn't rife with these machines currently. :p

You can get them integrated into the SCIO machine, from what I recall.

The rife machines had a tube that contained a noble gas like Argon or Krypton, which the frequencies passed through, that supposedly potentized and somatized the rays. The word supposedly is operative here.

ThePythonicCow
19th November 2011, 21:03
Does anyone know where a good safe reliable place to purchase MMS in the USA is?
I got mine from www.theMMSstore.com. I've only placed one order with them, but from everything I've seen, and what little I experienced, they are excellent.

Jonathon
19th November 2011, 21:19
Lord Sidious: I would be of the opinion that if you set the machine to resonate at a certain frequency and the only thing in your body at that frequency was a parasite, then you should have no after affects at all.
In theory.
I have had someone use one on me and I seem to be ok.
Maybe.
Absolutely - makes perfect sense, however things have become more complex these days. There are a greater number of toxins/pollutants/medications and resulting biological responses/processes that could be impacted in some way by this treatment. In a petri dish or other isolated environment, you can certainly see the effects. But that doesn't mean that this result necessarily carries across into all biological environments. The question might be: does the frequency cause collateral damage or compensatory/reactive processes that are potentially imbalancing (if that's a word) or hazardous, whether directly or indirectly. I love simple answers, however when it comes to the complexity of the Mind-Body-Spirit complex, processes are rarely consistently simple. The work needs to be carried on in a place that is free of outside intimidation and tampering.


Whitefeather: Jonathan When You Get A Chance See If This Resonates With You, Can You Please Research This As Well. Colloidal Silver - a simple homemade remedy for most illnesses: cancer, AIDS, Lyme's disease, arthritic pain, skin burns.
I'm definitely familiar with colloidal silver - it works. Where I would bring caution to the subject is with regard to matter and frequency of use. In a manner of speaking, 'absolutism' is a common human ailment. And what I mean by that is - truth can be as relative as anything else! There are few if any absolutes. I guarantee there are people who have never found any benefit from colloidal silver and therefore say, across the board, that it's bogus and they will never use it again. On the other hand, there are those who have had such tremendous success with it, that they believe it is the perfect medicine - a silver bullet (pun intended) that will work against anything - the proverbial snake oil. When it comes to health, there is no one answer. The more I read about and unravel my own spiritual nature, the more sense this makes. Balance is natural law. Your balance, while perhaps similar on the surface (physical level) and within the dimension of "scientific proof of processes", is likely nowhere near my own. This is the folly of western medicine - one size fits all (within a variance of dosages) and everything is physical in manifestation.

This is why I resonate so well with the Cayce material. Cayce treatments take into account the building process of the mind, karma (current and past brought with you), elements of the energy bodies and their respective physical manifestations, musculoskeletal and systems condition/performance, the diet and level/type of activity and so on. The process is focused on balancing all of these things in such a way that the "problem" is no longer needed or supported, therefore it falls away. That's not to say that the multitude of various treatment products and strategies aren't useful in the known "healing" world for a variety of issues - everything has some use. But no individual product or solution will bring you into balance - that's your job and a critical part of the human experience. The day we find "the" solution is the day we die ;) These bodies aren't meant to transcend mortality and the entire investigation of it (immortality), while interesting, is futile. Like Nassim Haramein says (to paraphrase) - you can look and look until the end of time and continue to find something new and smaller (regarding CERN and particle research), however the key to the universe doesn't exist from without - it exists within. Like Bono (U2) sings - "I have climbed the highest mountains, I have run through the fields, only to be with you; But I still haven't found what I'm looking for." The answer lies within.

It isn't my intention to refute anything - I don't know diddly. The very second I know something is the very moment in time that my mind and will fail. (It happens more than I would like!) Sometimes that's a good thing =) Most of the time it isn't.

WhiteFeather
19th November 2011, 21:35
Jonathan Thank You, And you are starting to grow on me, you have a great wealth of info and speak your truths and knowledge mixed in with the spices of spirituality.... Namaste Brother! PS I hope you dont think im blowing smoke up yee arse, thats just the way i operate when i resonate with someone. Keep the info flowing like a river ~*Again Thanks*~. ~WF~


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJaIqLKBVuw

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Modwiz, The mexican food sounds great, I just need a lot of hot sauce to accompany it. Too much Hot Sauce is never enough.

Jonathon
19th November 2011, 21:35
Jonathan Thank You, And you are starting to grow on me, you have a great wealth of info and speak your truths and knowledge mixed in with the spices of spirituality.... Namaste Brother! PS I hope you dont think im blowing smoke up yee arse, thats just the way i operate when i resonate with someone. Keep the info flowing like a river ~*Again Thanks*~. ~WF~

Wow thank you - that's a tremendous compliment! Probably not deserved, but I'll take it =) Like most of us, I have my moments - some that bring me deep satisfaction and others that make me cringe LOL.

Namaste to you as well. Blow that smoke - I can take it =)

WhiteFeather
19th November 2011, 21:39
With respect to the smoke....LoL, Hey Modwiz is Bogarting The Peace Pipe. Hurry put some more Auyhasca in that bad boy! Its starting to go out.

Maria Stade
20th November 2011, 01:38
Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

Wot ?? :twitch: machines ??

Forgive me M lord this nugget dont get it:blink:


Thanks White Feather I will read this book later !

Seikou-Kishi
20th November 2011, 02:08
Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

Wot ?? :twitch: machines ??

Forgive me M lord this nugget dont get it:blink:


Thanks White Feather I will read this book later !

Rife machines were invented by a US inventor called Royal Raymond Rife. The Rife Machine (as far as I understand it) was a frequency generator which harmonised unhealthy frequencies into healthy frequencies.

Maria Stade
20th November 2011, 02:11
If the walnuts dont work for some reason you can try this !

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy77/Vitabuffeln/renfana.jpg

Make an extract !
It is a old medicinal herb I use it to keep bugs away they dont like the smell !

They rubbed meat with this to protect from flies and also cattle.

It has been used oraly also to get rid of parasites in the body !

Maria Stade
20th November 2011, 02:18
Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

Wot ?? :twitch: machines ??

Forgive me M lord this nugget dont get it:blink:


Thanks White Feather I will read this book later !

Rife machines were invented by a US inventor called Royal Raymond Rife. The Rife Machine (as far as I understand it) was a frequency generator which harmonised unhealthy frequencies into healthy frequencies.

Ah...... sound like a good start :music: vibrate the system right !

Thank you :hug: I have never heard of Rife !

Arrowwind
20th November 2011, 02:44
A
I do believe there is a strong parasitic connection to some illnesses, however this is just one part of the story. The claim that 'all cancer' and other diseases is purely parasitic is fully unsubstantiated and borders on totally ignorant/irresponsible. Once again, I have not studied her full body of work completely - this is my impression after a few hours of reading and referencing.

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Having watched the cancer issue intently for over 35 years covering a wide base of modalities and protocols I agree with Hulda Clark that ALL cancer has a strong parasite component.
Parasites include virus and mutated bacteria that are not friendly to the system. A parasite is anything that requires you, as a host. They may be large or small, very very small.
Some cancer is caused by toxins or radiation, but theses issues cause an over lay of parasites.. or virus or fungus that must be contended with in order to cure.

I have done Clarks herbal parasite protocol... alternating her herbs as directed over 6 weeks. It is what knocked out all the nasties and I watched my numbers go down as the weeks went by. ... and thats when my cancer went too. I would not count on Black Walnut extract to take care of everything and you also have to be aware that parasites can build a resistance to herbs just like they can to antibiotics, hence timing and alternation of herbs is required, I had to make a chart to keep it all in my head as I went through the process.

HORIZONS
20th November 2011, 02:53
This may help as well~
http://www.healthforce.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/resized/Internal_Parasit_493afd4310f42_90x90.jpg


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modwiz
20th November 2011, 03:06
Rife machines are great to kill all manner of things in the body.

Wot ?? :twitch: machines ??

Forgive me M lord this nugget dont get it:blink:


Thanks White Feather I will read this book later !

Rife machines were invented by a US inventor called Royal Raymond Rife. The Rife Machine (as far as I understand it) was a frequency generator which harmonised unhealthy frequencies into healthy frequencies.

What it did was match frequencies of the pathogen and shatter them like and opera singer and the glass. It was so weffective he had to taper his treatments to allow the debris to be cleaned from the bloodstream and body generally. In the beginning, too frequent treatments were causing overload on the body. The definitive book on this, if still in print, is "The Cancer Cure That Worked" by Barry Lynes. That is where I got all my information about Dr. Rife and the nefarious AMA.

Morris Fishbein was the man who stopped all of the treatments and persecuted Rife into prison, had him stripped of his license and had research and machines destroyed. All because Dr. Rife wouldn't overcharge poor cancer patients and give Fishbein a cut of the profits or partnership. In other words, Dr. Rife refused to let the lethality of cancer be a good business model. Morris Fishbein, a name to be reviled.

Jonathon
20th November 2011, 04:27
A
I do believe there is a strong parasitic connection to some illnesses, however this is just one part of the story. The claim that 'all cancer' and other diseases is purely parasitic is fully unsubstantiated and borders on totally ignorant/irresponsible. Once again, I have not studied her full body of work completely - this is my impression after a few hours of reading and referencing.

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Having watched the cancer issue intently for over 35 years covering a wide base of modalities and protocols I agree with Hulda Clark that ALL cancer has a strong parasite component.
Parasites include virus and mutated bacteria that are not friendly to the system. A parasite is anything that requires you, as a host. They may be large or small, very very small.
Some cancer is caused by toxins or radiation, but theses issues cause an over lay of parasites.. or virus or fungus that must be contended with in order to cure.

I have done Clarks herbal parasite protocol... alternating her herbs as directed over 6 weeks. It is what knocked out all the nasties and I watched my numbers go down as the weeks went by. ... and thats when my cancer went too. I would not count on Black Walnut extract to take care of everything and you also have to be aware that parasites can build a resistance to herbs just like they can to antibiotics, hence timing and alternation of herbs is required, I had to make a chart to keep it all in my head as I went through the process.


Hi Arrowwind! Thanks so much for joining the discussion. I would love to hear more about your experience. Please expand as much as you are willing and able - any substantiation of Hulda's protocols would be welcome for sure.

To your response: I certainly don't discount the parasitic component, however this doesn't necessarily create a causal relationship. Just as a quick aside, if you haven't read THIS (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#bechamp) over on Wade Frazier's site, I would definitely recommend it. This outlines some of the work of Naessens and Bechamp. Here is a great quote from that link:


When a body's biochemistry becomes unbalanced, through factors such as smoking, drinking, poor diet, stress and chemical poisoning, the somatids undergo thirteen more stages of their mutation cycle, which is a pathological process. Naessens found that the somatids would mutate into bacterial, yeast and other forms. Again, the pleomorphic observations of Béchamp were confirmed. Naessens dubbed his microscope a Somatoscope, after the little bodies it was able to see.

Here is confirmation of the parasitic connection. Note that these invaders are inherent to a process initiated by an unbalanced condition - they do not (all) come from outside of the body. As an aside, it stands to reason that this could be the missing link to manifestation-of-health and the placebo effect. I believe that the somatids could be intention-driven, at least in part, which is why when a physically healthy person wants to die, the body finds a way to grant that wish; or when a person believes that they are cured, somehow they become cured. Perhaps this is the process catalyzed by energy healing and other means. The placebo is the greatest medicine ever discovered -- statistically and otherwise.

Cancer is caused by an unbalanced condition. To play devil's advocate (in red), that condition could be catalyzed by absolutely anything from negative thoughts to paint chips to karmic conditions. Parasites are part of your internal ecosystem and will obviously multiply when conditions are ripe for them to do so - this is nature's way. However, even if the parasites are the foot-soldiers acting by nature's directive in your eventual demise, you can't really call them the cause. If you don't have a cause, you do not have a cure by definition. This would be a treatment - an ongoing, probably lifelong process (which Hulda's seems to be). So is she clear on what she's doing? How can she or anyone else be sure?

It's interesting that the parasite (Flukes) Hulda claims is the source of all cancer are not indigenous to North America nor are they common (rare was the word chosen by another source). There is an obvious conundrum here. Could it be that they are created by the somatids? Possible, however, once again, not substantiated. From the surface level, it makes Hulda's claim weak. She could have easily resolved this by taking specimens directly and confirming under other scientific conditions. As far as I can tell, she chose not to do that with the entire body of her work. Once again - doesn't show due diligence. No scientific verification to check your own work? Really? The case studies are also ambiguous in parts.

Apparently when the Indiana authorities were after Hulda they setup a sting operation by sending an agent in to receive her services. She claimed that the agent had AIDs and requires a couple thousand dollars worth of treatment. When the masks came off, she said that she made a mistake. Now I'm not saying the source for this is credible necessarily - I've read enough about hit-jobs to know the methods of these people. However my question would be, where is her side of the story? Why did she flee? Did she mount any defense etc? I'm not accusing - I just don't have the data.

Like I said in the above post, I think Hulda was on to something (the presence of the big boys going after her shows that) however the body of her work does not make it clear nor does it demonstrate full realization. Further, there are too many unsubstantiated absolutes in her work, which leads me to believe that she was a 'true-believer'. True-believers take big risks, offer little substantive evidence, and usually fall hard and short as a result of their own bias. If you can help me fill in the gaps, that would be amazing! If even 50% of what she claims has real merit, then thousands to millions could potentially benefit.

Daughter of Time
20th November 2011, 06:39
I read Hulda Clark's books some years ago. For those who do not, at the moment, have the time to read the attachment posted by WhiteFeather above, this is what Dr. Clark's books on cancer say, in a nutshell: in order for a body to develop cancer, the body must be laden with the following: toxins, bacteria, viruses, moulds, fungii and parasites. There are natural ways to eliminate all these offenders, and if one follows these natural, cleansing, detoxifying ways, then the cancer will be cured. Of course, it takes time and a great deal of patience, but it's totally doable.

I have a friend who will be dead any day now and all because he chose to follow the poison/slash/burn methods which don't cure cancer at all. But those methods sure make billions for big pharma and friends.

If only the veil could be removed from people's eyes! If only the brain-washing could be stopped! If only...

Arrowwind
20th November 2011, 17:10
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When a body's biochemistry becomes unbalanced, through factors such as smoking, drinking, poor diet, stress and chemical poisoning, the somatids undergo thirteen more stages of their mutation cycle, which is a pathological process. Naessens found that the somatids would mutate into bacterial, yeast and other forms. Again, the pleomorphic observations of Béchamp were confirmed. Naessens dubbed his microscope a Somatoscope, after the little bodies it was able to see.

Here is confirmation of the parasitic connection. Note that these invaders are inherent to a process initiated by an unbalanced condition - they do not (all) come from outside of the body. As an aside, it stands to reason that this could be the missing link to manifestation-of-health and the placebo effect. I believe that the somatids could be intention-driven, at least in part, which is why when a physically healthy person wants to die, the body finds a way to grant that wish; or when a person believes that they are cured, somehow they become cured. Perhaps this is the process catalyzed by energy healing and other means. The placebo is the greatest medicine ever discovered -- statistically and otherwise.

Cancer is caused by an unbalanced condition. To play devil's advocate (in red), that condition could be catalyzed by absolutely anything from negative thoughts to paint chips to karmic conditions. Parasites are part of your internal ecosystem and will obviously multiply when conditions are ripe for them to do so - this is nature's way. However, even if the parasites are the foot-soldiers acting by nature's directive in your eventual demise, you can't really call them the cause. If you don't have a cause, you do not have a cure by definition. This would be a treatment - an ongoing, probably lifelong process (which Hulda's seems to be). So is she clear on what she's doing? How can she or anyone else be sure?

I believe that the somatids could be intention-driven, at least in part, which is why when a physically healthy person wants to die, the body finds a way to grant that wish; or when a person believes that they are cured, somehow they become cured. Perhaps this is the process catalyzed by energy healing and other means. The placebo is the greatest medicine ever discovered -- statistically and otherwise.

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For anyone who has doubts about pathogens being involved in cancer or other disease or in polymorphism please watch this video. It is quite amazing, and although a little long and it has put me to sleep a couple of times I forced myself though it to learn what they are trying to tell you. It is actually a promotional video for a dark field microscope... but don't let that keep you from the info they offer.

http://www.grayfieldoptical.com/symbiosis_or_parasitism.html

First of all I do not believe in placebo effect. There is a cause for disease and there is a cure for disease. Each requires a real and significant change in the body. If the change could not be determined that does not mean that it did not exist as a real energetic factor. Things to not just happen out of thin air or belief... now this moves into the quantum level of physics which we a a human race are just starting to look at. Prayer is a quantum process it is not placebo, as is homeopathy and other healing arts and sciences. I do not accept placebo.. it is a term designed to keep us from the truth by people who do not understand science nor what healing truly is and by those who do not accept subtle energy as a real force of nature.... placebo is their write off for what little minds refuse to comprehend. Please understand that it is time for us to wake up to the greater universe and not discredit with the insulting word "placebo" anymore for what is a truly dynamic function of our reality.

Yes, cancer is caused by an unbalanced condition and there is always a cause and when it is cured there is always a reason that could be tracked scientifically if we knew how. Karma may be a cause but there is within my belief system some chaos to the universe, so sometimes "**** just happens"... Im sure you have heard that term before. Bad things happen to good people... and good things happen to bad people and it is not all karma... but of course what they do with those events turns into Karma.

Toxins may be the initiating cause of a cancer but really in some cases the cancer does not develop until the parasites start making an impact. Almost all of us have heavy metals but for some it is a death sentence. Maintaining homeostasis it what it is all about... and even in the presence of toxins some people maintain a balanced condition and they don't get sick for thier energetic system is capable of maintaining homeostasis... so it really gets down to what came first, the chicken or the egg, the parasite or the toxin... and in the end it really doesn't matter all that much. If both are there they both need to be addressed in the healing process in some kind of way... as well as the more mystifying issue of how to return to homeostasis, which I think is as individual as anything could possibly be... for in homeostasis is the greater impacts of Karma and the need to reorient the mental and spiritual processes.... but still healing is possible.


Hulda had to run. What she did was illegal and she dam well knew it. Does Hilda make mistakes.... Im sure she did and she made a huge one at that time. I have highly mixed feelings about results from dowsing and essentially this is what Hida Clark does... but that being said, she it a great intuit, and she has been right in enough cases to bring fame and fortune to herself as well as save lives. She deserves her place next to the saints as well as a large grain of salt.

I no longer have the protocol for the herbs I did that came from Clark. It required several herbs as well as HCL drops. The herbs rotated on an weekly or biweekly basis and most taken several times a day if I recall correctly. Of course there was no proof that it would work but I selected the protocol because of the long standing historical use of the herbs. I also knew that these herbs didn't always cure ... so what Hilda said, rotating them, made a lot of sense, as it is essential so that you don't' create resistant pathogens.. and that made full sense to me. Why would a pathogen mount its defense in the presence of a toxic antibiotic but not in the presence of a toxic herb?

Anyway, I was being monitored with the Phazyx (sp?) biomerdian computer program, a pre - program to some of the more modern units like QXCI and others.. actually I have found the phazyx more useful than the others...unlike the QXCI it does not treat but only gives information and information that was easy to decipher. I read the reports it produced on a number of cancer patients and I was totally impressed at its accuracy in detecting the cancer, the type of cancer, its location and all the contributing factors like metals, pathogens, vaccinations, other negative conditions, as well as exposures to the chemo and radiation treatments some had had... All of them had pathogens underlaying their disease process... as I did also... As I did the herbs the pathogen numbers dropped... I was also doing rife... but it seemed to me that changes really started happening when the herbs were added. ... I saw that i did not have any heavy metal issues which I found a relief, I had done quite a bit of heavy metal detox with homoepathy previously. It was interesting to see the program actually detect toxic effects to some of the medicines people were trying... for instance, cesium. One woman was using cesium and it went off the charts on the program report for toxifying her.. she persisted with it. Eventually i think it killed her. When she finally realized it was a toxin to her and stopped listening to those who put her on it... it was too late. She died.

I disagree with Clark about flukes being the cause of all cancer... It certainly is not the cause in melanoma nor breast cancer.... where virus or fungus respectively, likely is, and tapeworm on other cancers. Liver flukes is not all that rare in the US. Doctors do not accept it... but I have known quite a few people who have passed them... tapeworms also. If you want to save your life you have to stop listening to most doctors and wake up and start thinking for yourself.

... and in the video that I presented you will see that there are many other pathogens that could cause cancer... ones that western medicine refuses to look at as dark field microscopy is illegal in the USA as a diagnostic tool

WhiteFeather
20th November 2011, 17:47
I read Hulda Clark's books some years ago. For those who do not, at the moment, have the time to read the attachment posted by WhiteFeather above, this is what Dr. Clark's books on cancer say, in a nutshell: in order for a body to develop cancer, the body must be laden with the following: toxins, bacteria, viruses, moulds, fungii and parasites. There are natural ways to eliminate all these offenders, and if one follows these natural, cleansing, detoxifying ways, then the cancer will be cured. Of course, it takes time and a great deal of patience, but it's totally doable.

I have a friend who will be dead any day now and all because he chose to follow the poison/slash/burn methods which don't cure cancer at all. But those methods sure make billions for big pharma and friends.

If only the veil could be removed from people's eyes! If only the brain-washing could be stopped! If only...

Chemotherapy has a very therapeutic name doesn't it.....notice the word they use for this toxic poisoned maltov cocktail of hot magma, but what it does is torches all the cells in the body. Doesn't sound like therapy to me one bit!

As far as Hollis-tics and brainwashing by the medical monopoly of millionaires....People i believe won't wake up because they are being mislead and hypnotized constantly by the many Dr. Frankenstein's whom in my eyes, should be arrested immediately...But if they do wake up, Remember the old phrase: You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink. If Only! Thanks for that Daughter In Time!

Daughter of Time
21st November 2011, 04:32
I visited my dying friend today. Months ago they sliced him open to remove part of his lung. Then they poisoned him with chemo. Now he's lying in a hospital bed looking like a skeleton, unable to eat, speak, talk, walk, and spitting blood. Finally, his wife has come to the realization that her husband has been just another money machine for THEM! How sad, to realize that so late. I had to bite my tongue to refrain from saying "I told you so". All I could do was hug her and stifle my tears.

Lord Sidious
21st November 2011, 04:42
I visited my dying friend today. Months ago they sliced him open to remove part of his lung. Then they poisoned him with chemo. Now he's lying in a hospital bed looking like a skeleton, unable to eat, speak, talk, walk, and spitting blood. Finally, his wife has come to the realization that her husband has been just another money machine for THEM! How sad, to realize that so late. I had to bite my tongue to refrain from saying "I told you so". All I could do was hug her and stifle my tears.

Sorry to hear of your friend and the suffering they put him through.
Hopefully, the system is on its' last legs.

Daughter of Time
21st November 2011, 04:44
To add to my grief, while visiting my dying friend at the hospital for which i had to travel out of town since I don't live there anymore, there were two more old friends, from school days, on the same floor, suffering the same fate. And later I learned that recently another school friend who also suffered the same fate died on that floor. These are not old people! Two men and two women who should be in the prime of their lives - TRUNCATED! by a system which doesn't work and it knows it doesn't work. But money is their God and bodies are their currency.

I am exhausted, angry, frustrated and know not what to do!

Lord Sidious
21st November 2011, 04:54
To add to my grief, while visiting my dying friend at the hospital for which i had to travel out of town since I don't live there anymore, there were two more old friends, from school days, on the same floor, suffering the same fate. And later I learned that recently another school friend who also suffered the same fate died on that floor. These are not old people! Two men and two women who should be in the prime of their lives - TRUNCATED! by a system which doesn't work and it knows it doesn't work. But money is their God and bodies are their currency.

I am exhausted, angry, frustrated and know not what to do!

Well, for one thing, let go of the anger, it won't help them and it certainly won't help you.

Arrowwind
21st November 2011, 05:01
To add to my grief, while visiting my dying friend at the hospital for which i had to travel out of town since I don't live there anymore, there were two more old friends, from school days, on the same floor, suffering the same fate. And later I learned that recently another school friend who also suffered the same fate died on that floor. These are not old people! Two men and two women who should be in the prime of their lives - TRUNCATED! by a system which doesn't work and it knows it doesn't work. But money is their God and bodies are their currency.

I am exhausted, angry, frustrated and know not what to do!

The only thing there is to do is to educate yourself and educate others and work diligently to block the system from taking over alternative medicine.
At the rate cancer stats keep going up no one will avoid cancer by the year 2040 if they live to be 80.... so that is you and me and everyone else on this forum and everyone else you know, unless they fight back by learning how to care for their bodies by detox and nutrition.

Daughter of Time
21st November 2011, 05:05
Lord Sidious, you are so right! Let go of the anger! It doesn't serve any purpose other than to make me ill. That would mean they have won!

Ruby L.
21st November 2011, 05:06
Yes, Arrowwind-- and, alongside learning how to care for our physical wellbeing as a defence against cancer, also to look out for our emotional and mental wellbeing, as well: Mind, Body and Spirit.

Jonathon
21st November 2011, 06:24
For anyone who has doubts about pathogens being involved in cancer or other disease or in polymorphism please watch this video. It is quite amazing, and although a little long and it has put me to sleep a couple of times I forced myself though it to learn what they are trying to tell you. It is actually a promotional video for a dark field microscope... but don't let that keep you from the info they offer.

http://www.grayfieldoptical.com/symbiosis_or_parasitism.html

Thanks Arrowwind - will definitely check it out. If you haven't had a chance to check the link I provided from Wade's site, please do - it's along the very same lines.


First of all I do not believe in placebo effect. There is a cause for disease and there is a cure for disease. Each requires a real and significant change in the body. If the change could not be determined that does not mean that it did not exist as a real energetic factor. Things to not just happen out of thin air or belief... now this moves into the quantum level of physics which we a a human race are just starting to look at. Prayer is a quantum process it is not placebo, as is homeopathy and other healing arts and sciences. I do not accept placebo.. it is a term designed to keep us from the truth by people who do not understand science nor what healing truly is and by those who do not accept subtle energy as a real force of nature.... placebo is their write off for what little minds refuse to comprehend. Please understand that it is time for us to wake up to the greater universe and not discredit with the insulting word "placebo" anymore for what is a truly dynamic function of our reality.

Belief is entirely valid in the quantum and is a very powerful force that should not be underestimated. Psychosomatic illness is belief driven. Prayer is belief driven. Hypnotherapy is suggestion driven - this also enters the realm of belief. Intention and will are also belief driven. And one could say that absolutely everything happens out of thin air =) If the nature of all is illusory, what binds each of us to it? Belief plays a part in that too. Perception drives reality - isn't this a fundamental tenet of quantum physics?

I can appreciate what you are saying with regard to the placebo and would agree that there is a lot more to it that is being hidden through scientific indoctrination. Certainly Naessens, Bechamp, Rife and many others were heavily involved in areas that apparently required serious suppression. You and I are basically saying the same thing - there is something to the "placebo effect" - doesn't matter what we call it if the term is causing you grief. It is what it is. Pharmaceutical whistle-blowers have confirmed the need to downplay it substantially. In my field (rehabilitation), belief is absolutely fundamental to progress and eventual wellness. Belief creates a potential and initiates the will to move through it. There is a cause and effect relationship here, of course. There is a 'movement' or 'manifestation' so to speak in the mind-body-spirit complex on all levels - they are intertwined (one thing). This is precisely the 'greater universe' of which you speak in my opinion.


Yes, cancer is caused by an unbalanced condition and there is always a cause and when it is cured there is always a reason that could be tracked scientifically if we knew how. Karma may be a cause but there is within my belief system some chaos to the universe, so sometimes "**** just happens"... Im sure you have heard that term before. Bad things happen to good people... and good things happen to bad people and it is not all karma... but of course what they do with those events turns into Karma.

In my opinion "Chaos" is the far greater "insult word" if we were to use such a strong term - conveying a position of scientific arrogance by suggesting that anything beyond our own intellect must ultimately be incomprehensible and in disarray. The universe is magnificently ordered. S*** happens only at a low level of perception. On some higher level, it makes perfect sense. Over the years I have spent a good bit of time reflecting on the S*** that happened in my life. Now that my perception has expanded, those incidents make perfect sense. It was my low level of consciousness at the time (that of the victim) that created the S*** happens belief - my own ego defense mechanism. In any case, it probably won't serve us to create such strong bias as to feel insulted by terminology - clouds the water.

I consider karma 'unfulfilled contracts' or unfinished business. As all things seek to return to their maker, the universe is an evolving expression of this journey. Cycles require completion for integration of learning for their eventual evolution. Within the limits of our purview, this would exist on a multitude of levels which naturally reflect in the personal vehicle (whatever we want to call the body complex). The somatid cycle seems to be a reflection of this - a really exciting and telling discovery!


Toxins may be the initiating cause of a cancer but really in some cases the cancer does not develop until the parasites start making an impact. Almost all of us have heavy metals but for some it is a death sentence. Maintaining homeostasis it what it is all about... and even in the presence of toxins some people maintain a balanced condition and they don't get sick for thier energetic system is capable of maintaining homeostasis... so it really gets down to what came first, the chicken or the egg, the parasite or the toxin... and in the end it really doesn't matter all that much. If both are there they both need to be addressed in the healing process in some kind of way... as well as the more mystifying issue of how to return to homeostasis, which I think is as individual as anything could possibly be... for in homeostasis is the greater impacts of Karma and the need to reorient the mental and spiritual processes.... but still healing is possible.

Totally hear you - all I'm saying is we have barely scratched the surface and there is so much we don't know. Therefore any positive assertions are difficult to make with any level of accuracy. We're still in the dark ages of medicine. We shouldn't be - the information has been there for years, but we know how that story goes.

It may not be the toxin or the parasite. The intention could be first - intention sets the wheel of experience in motion. If that's the case, toxins and parasites are effects and not causes. Failure to forgive is known to create illness such as cancer - if this is true, there is something much deeper we are missing. I realize this is heading down the hole a bit, however I really feel there is a strong connection here - a mirroring of the somatid cycle with the mind complex. I see the physical evidence of it all the time. To your credit - absolutely: if something works, we should be compelled to use it and test it; if something is known to create a disharmonious condition (metals etc) certainly we should consider avoiding it -both cases will progress the learning regardless of initial cause.



Hulda had to run. What she did was illegal and she dam well knew it. Does Hilda make mistakes.... Im sure she did and she made a huge one at that time. I have highly mixed feelings about results from dowsing and essentially this is what Hida Clark does... but that being said, she it a great intuit, and she has been right in enough cases to bring fame and fortune to herself as well as save lives. She deserves her place next to the saints as well as a large grain of salt.

She was on to something, however like many others, was unable to fully capitalize on it. I don't think she was aware of exactly what it was yet. Seems in the right direction but on the wrong track - we have all experienced this in some way or another.


I no longer have the protocol for the herbs I did that came from Clark. It required several herbs as well as HCL drops. The herbs rotated on an weekly or biweekly basis and most taken several times a day if I recall correctly. Of course there was no proof that it would work but I selected the protocol because of the long standing historical use of the herbs. I also knew that these herbs didn't always cure ... so what Hilda said, rotating them, made a lot of sense, as it is essential so that you don't' create resistant pathogens.. and that made full sense to me. Why would a pathogen mount its defense in the presence of a toxic antibiotic but not in the presence of a toxic herb?

Guess it depends on the herb. Certainly the parasites have the capacity to learn/adapt. Makes good sense. I assume it depends on dosage and internal coverage - like she said, you want to knock all of it out at the same time if possible. This is why deeper scientific exploration would have been nice. I just can't see how she wouldn't do that to protect her work if nothing else. Makes we wonder if she did and didn't find what she was expecting - what rational, intelligent person wouldn't do such checks??? Maybe she ran out of time, resources - just don't know, but it creates a big void in her work.

If you happen to think of anymore details on your protocol, would love to record it (the specific herbs - and even good sources for those).


Anyway, I was being monitored with the Phazyx (sp?) biomerdian computer program, a pre - program to some of the more modern units like QXCI and others.. actually I have found the phazyx more useful than the others...unlike the QXCI it does not treat but only gives information and information that was easy to decipher. I read the reports it produced on a number of cancer patients and I was totally impressed at its accuracy in detecting the cancer, the type of cancer, its location and all the contributing factors like metals, pathogens, vaccinations, other negative conditions, as well as exposures to the chemo and radiation treatments some had had... All of them had pathogens underlaying their disease process... as I did also... As I did the herbs the pathogen numbers dropped... I was also doing rife... but it seemed to me that changes really started happening when the herbs were added. ... I saw that i did not have any heavy metal issues which I found a relief, I had done quite a bit of heavy metal detox with homoepathy previously. It was interesting to see the program actually detect toxic effects to some of the medicines people were trying... for instance, cesium. One woman was using cesium and it went off the charts on the program report for toxifying her.. she persisted with it. Eventually i think it killed her. When she finally realized it was a toxin to her and stopped listening to those who put her on it... it was too late. She died.

Were you also diagnosed from a mainstream physician and/or diagnostic test? If so, how did that correlate with this diagnostic device? Also what was your condition/diagnosis, if I may ask (sorry if it's personal - happy to withdraw the question if so).


I disagree with Clark about flukes being the cause of all cancer... It certainly is not the cause in melanoma nor breast cancer.... where virus or fungus respectively, likely is, and tapeworm on other cancers. Liver flukes is not all that rare in the US. Doctors do not accept it... but I have known quite a few people who have passed them... tapeworms also. If you want to save your life you have to stop listening to most doctors and wake up and start thinking for yourself.

... and in the video that I presented you will see that there are many other pathogens that could cause cancer... ones that western medicine refuses to look at as dark field microscopy is illegal in the USA as a diagnostic tool



Radiation is one cause of cancer, and the research doesn't appear to implicate parasites, rather the spawning of a new and contrary anaerobic cell form due to damaging/disrupting the cell's DNA/RNA communication. You could technically call that a parasite, but it wouldn't exactly be accurate either. I would make sense that parasites would become involved secondarily and exacerbate the problem, however in this case they wouldn't be the primary driver.

The Flukes, as the core of Hulda's argument, should have been confirmed in every single case study, by a secondary means - a direct means. The absence of this makes it weak. Combine that with emphatic claims and it becomes fishy and weak. I'm hoping your story will bring more light to these apparent weak areas. Thank you for offering your wisdom and experience!

WhiteFeather
21st November 2011, 15:11
I visited my dying friend today. Months ago they sliced him open to remove part of his lung. Then they poisoned him with chemo. Now he's lying in a hospital bed looking like a skeleton, unable to eat, speak, talk, walk, and spitting blood. Finally, his wife has come to the realization that her husband has been just another money machine for THEM! How sad, to realize that so late. I had to bite my tongue to refrain from saying "I told you so". All I could do was hug her and stifle my tears.

Sorry to hear of your friend and the suffering they put him through.
Hopefully, the system is on its' last legs.

Hopefully the medical monopoly on the false cures for cancer, will crumble soon and The Holistic method/approach will come into play soon Sid.

WhiteFeather
21st November 2011, 15:41
Here's another two pdf's.... Cures for general illnesses by Hulda Clark. size 5.1 Mb. And a Lab Manual As Well.

Here's The Preface by Hulda Clark on the pdf/book Cures For General Diseases:
The sick have been held hostage for their money or intangible
assets since time immemorial. Doctors, even primitive and
natural healers, surround themselves with mystery as they use
herbs or chemicals and incantations or “prognoses” to help the
sick recover. Today, the medical industry (doctors and their
suppliers and insurers) take a significant amount of the worker's
earnings. Wouldn't it be nice if they could all go back to gardening
or some other primitive and useful endeavor? Wouldn't it
be wonderful if the sick could join them?


Diseases
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Hulda2.pdf
Lab Manual
http://www.free-energy-info.com/HuldaLab.pdf

Arrowwind
21st November 2011, 16:26
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Radiation is one cause of cancer, and the research doesn't appear to implicate parasites, rather the spawning of a new and contrary anaerobic cell form due to damaging/disrupting the cell's DNA/RNA communication. You could technically call that a parasite, but it wouldn't exactly be accurate either. I would make sense that parasites would become involved secondarily and exacerbate the problem, however in this case they wouldn't be the primary driver.

The Flukes, as the core of Hulda's argument, should have been confirmed in every single case study, by a secondary means - a direct means. The absence of this makes it weak. Combine that with emphatic claims and it becomes fishy and weak. I'm hoping your story will bring more light to these apparent weak areas. Thank you for offering your wisdom and experience!

Well yes, there are many causes of cancer as a toxin impinges upon a system and damages it... I consider radiation just another toxin. Hulda mentions the case of a young boy with brain cancer caused by a tapeworm.. so she doesn't even hold to her own theory. She claims that boy was cured by her work.

I think words to matter and please read this definition regarding placebo..

pla·ce·bo (pl-sb)
n. pl. pla·ce·bos or pla·ce·boes
1.
a. A substance containing no medication and prescribed or given to reinforce a patient's expectation to get well.
b. An inactive substance or preparation used as a control in an experiment or test to determine the effectiveness of a medicinal drug.
2. Something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure another.


The whole concept of placebo propagates a lie. We are not free if we are lied to and accept the lie as truth.

Placebo clearly states, by definition, that no medicine is there.. it does not address the quantum level of what is happening (which is the medicine) and in a sense actually by implication negates the possibility ... as NO MEDICINE IS THERE... and there is no INTRINSIC REMEDIAL VALUE .... this has been the assault against homeopathy which IS quantum medicine and has little to nothing to do with belief in its ability to cure. It is the same assault against prayer or belief... appeasements and reassurances do not give merit to the actual process and the concept of placebo clouds the truth which is that the dynamic function of belief is scientific and has nothing to do with religion or any philosophical system.... We will not advance in our healing capacities until the truth is revealed for what it is and all people can understand that their beliefs are not placebo, but are a dynamic activity that has an impact on all aspects of life. Instead of the current scientific world insinuating that placebo is really no medicine, all effort should be applied to understanding what the placebo medicine is in all its various manifestations and applications. When this is done then the quantum aspect will come out of the closet and become a working tool for all people. This is why I really like the Church of Religious Science which promotes the science of mind as initially taught by Ernest Holmes, with others to follow in that lineage. It takes the voodo out of it all, eliminates false and mythical gods and puts our human power into crystal clear perspective, thus validating what religions have claimed to be true but could not get to the essence of as all was shrouded in false belief, fear, hysteria and fundamentalism and the desire to control the people.

I was not diagnosed by a conventional doctor but through a naturopath and the phazyx machine. It printed out a detailed outline of all asaults that had occured to my body over its lifetime. It was highly accurate for all those things that I knew about right down to surguries and vaccines and some of the diseases I had had over the years. I remember taking particular note that my heavy metals was extremely low, to the point of inconsequential.. and that the other patients had very high metals. I had been doing a homeopathic heavy metals detox. It also scores the intensity of the assault or impingement and any previous assault that was now healed would still show up as nothing can be fully erased. I had opportunity to read the reports for a number of cancer patients who did have conventional diagnosis.. the correlations to their conventional diagnosis were stunning !

I did Hulda Clarks herbs for a parasite cleanse and a kidney cleanse as found on this page but this page does not offer how to schedule the rotation of the herbs:
http://www.drhuldaclarksupplies.com/

I used her products along with diet, Rife (2 different machines), multiple wave oscillator, iodine.

After this the numbers on the phazyx really stopped dropping and I did feel like a new person... and it seems that the biggest shift came after the herbs but I could not verify that it was only the herbs. I also went through some thyroid healing, which is the one thing that didn't show up on the test.. I had some benign thyroid cysts that I believe are gone now... at least I cant feel them like I use to. Perhaps those cysts, since benign where not really making an impingement on my system. I don't know but they sure scared me for a while and I went to a conventional doc for diagnosis of that. One was large enough to make a visible lump on my throat. The thyroid doc said they would never get smaller nor go away. I think he was wrong.

Although I realize that some do not believe in chaos theory I do and I will hold to that for the time being. My core spiritual teaching is in shamanism and ceremonial work.. my teacher says that chaos is a very real thing and as I dream into it I can see its reality.. this link below gives a very simplistic image of how chaos is expressed... as in clouds. But it is much bigger than that. ... and please, I am not a scientist nor mathematician ... so lets not get into this too much. I cannot do the math ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
http://chaosbook.org/

Jonathon
21st November 2011, 16:26
Here's another two pdf's.... Cures for general illnesses by Hulda Clark. size 5.1 Mb. And a Lab Manual As Well.

Diseases
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Hulda2.pdf
Lab Manual
http://www.free-energy-info.com/HuldaLab.pdf

Thanks Whitefeather - maybe this will help me clarify.

Arrowwind
21st November 2011, 16:35
[

Hopefully the medical monopoly on the false cures for cancer, will crumble soon and The Holistic method/approach will come into play soon Sid.

It is already happening in small corners of the world... the blending of conventional and naturopathic. We have some excellent doctors of Naturopathy in my area that combine things and do excellent work, repeatedly curing the incurable in things like joint degeneration, Lyme, cardiac issues, Hep C and some cancers.

WhiteFeather
21st November 2011, 16:58
[

Hopefully the medical monopoly on the false cures for cancer, will crumble soon and The Holistic method/approach will come into play soon Sid.

It is already happening in small corners of the world... the blending of conventional and naturopathic. We have some excellent doctors of Naturopathy in my area that combine things and do excellent work, repeatedly curing the incurable in things like joint degeneration, Lyme, cardiac issues, Hep C and some cancers.

That's Great To Here! Thank You, Arrowwind.

Maria Stade
22nd November 2011, 00:34
It is sad to see someone you love go with cancer and taking all the treatment I have a close family member that is getting his first treatment now and I know that It will take some time and then it has spread maybe by the blood after they have been cutting in his body.

I have treated animals for a long time with medicinal plants and I was going to a friend to help here with the sick animals (they got cured)
But I was so shaken after I hade got the knowledge that She was dying in cancer and all her 4 children had cancer !
I just had to pull off the road and cry ! This family is living in Finland where the chernobyl radiation fell down !

I culdnt help her or her children and I cant help my uncle because they belive in the great development of modern treatments !

But I can share this article that maybe can help some one that is open !

I also belive that proper breathing can help a lot as the will to get well !

I eat MSM my self now and got a great ace relife LOL and Jorr has stopped as he started to change skin and all the cell activity made it itching all over :shocked: Maybe he is transforming to something else LOL well he isnt turning green anyway LOL !

by R. Webster Kehr
Independent Cancer Research Foundation, Inc.

NOTICE: This article is not about a cancer treatment, rather it is an article about a product currently being researched by the Independent Cancer Research Foundation to be part of a future cancer treatment. This discussion is very theoretical and there is no doubt that MSM will eventually be a major part of a major cancer treatment.
Article on Natural Treatments For Advanced Cancer Patients

How It Works

MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) is an incredible form of sulphur, the third most common chemical in our body. MSM makes cells permeable (which is known to aid in the treatment of cancer), strengthens collagen (which helps stop the spreading of cancer and thus may turn malignant tumors into benign tumors), helps maintain a proper pH (which cancer cells don't like), and causes a host of other benefits for treating cancer, some direct and some indirect.

MSM Plus Vitamin C and B12

I will start with a quote from the good folks at Minnesota Wellness: "We've just run across some old research on MSM, a form of nutritional sulfur, that piqued our interest. Currently MSM is being widely used by people suffering from arthritis. It supports connective tissue, and results (lower pain, increased movement) appear quickly. The reason we mention it here [in the cancer section] is that it was discovered in the fifties that MSM tends to turn malignant tumors into benign tumors. And then the research stopped. Why? MSM is cheap (if purchased in bulk, even cheaper) and cannot be patented."

While the substance this quote refers to may have been DMSO, the fact is that MSM is critical to making collagen, the primary constituent of cartilage and connective tissue. It is the largely strength of collagen that stops the spreading of cancer.

The oxidative energy production of cells requires reactive sulphur compounds. Without sufficient organic sulphur as in the form of MSM cells and body structures lose their elasticity and flexibility. MSM's main benefit is to keep cells and blood vessels elastic. It keeps cell walls permeable so that nutrients can freely flow into the cells and wastes and toxins can easily be removed. Puple grape juice is known to have this property also, and purple grape juice is not only a treatment for cancer, but also for heart disease and dementia.

MSM helps the body maintain a proper pH. Cancer thrives in an acidic environment.

MSM tends to reduce or eliminate allergic reactions to foods, chemicals and inhaled allergens (Note: it is possible some cancer is a result of allergies or that they both have the same cause).

MSM is needed to detoxify the body. Amino acid chains are usually linked with each other through flexible sulphur bridges.

Sulfur is present in every cell of every plant and animal. Sulfur is an important element in more than 150 compounds in the body, including tissues, enzymes, hormones, and anti-oxidants. MSM is a nutritional mineral that can help to normalize the immune system.

MSM easily gets past the blood-brain barrier and thus is an important part of any brain cancer treatment program.

In vitro and in vivo tests suggest that MSM has ameliorating or curative activity against a variety of medically important parasitic, microbial, and fungal problems of the intestinal and urogenital tracts. Several prominent alternative cancer experts believe cancer is a microbial problem.

Some researchers are pointing to MSM as the possible explanation for why some cancers go into spontaneous remission. The answer here may lie in MSM's ability to assist in moving free radicals and foreign proteins out of the system.

A study published in 1986 showed that MSM was "effective in the chemoprevention of ... mammary cancers." (Study by Dr. D. McCabe, Dr. P. O'Dwyer, Dr. B. Sickle-Santanello, Dr. E. Woltering, Dr. H. Abou-Issa and Dr. A. James, published in the Archives of Surgery, 12/1986)

Glutathione is the most plentiful antioxidant found inside your cells. It is critical to keep the immune system functioning at peak efficiency. For example, HIV infected cells lose the ability to produce glutathione and will not accept any from the blood. MSM is critical to the formation of glutathione, and many other molecules in your body.

From an oxygen perspective, MSM:
Oxygenates the blood so that red blood cells can deliver more oxygen and nutrients to the cells.
Improves the lung and all cell permeability to increase lung capacity and increase oxygen intake to the body.
Protects against the harmful effects of toxins, radiation, and pollution.
Disinfects the blood, resists bacteria and protects the protoplasm of the cells.
Is excellent in maintaining flexibility in arteries, improving oxygen flow and keeping the arteries clean and clear of arterial plaque from forming.

Now the bad news.

Since the advent of inorganic fertilizers, our bodies are not getting enough nutritional sulfur. Due to the over-farming, chemical fertilizers, long term storage, pesticides, and the over processing of the foods we eat today, much of the sulfur content of these foods is either destroyed or missing completely.

MSM or Methylsulfonylmethane occurs naturally in many fresh foods but is lost during processing. With today's diet of cooked and processed foods, most diets of civilized cultures are deficient in this critically important ingredient (Note: this may be one reason so many cancer diets focus on "raw foods").

Note: Individuals with plenty of sulphur in their diet (e.g. from eggs and onions) may not experience any benefits from using MSM supplements. Furthermore, individuals who are sensitive to sulphites (often used as preservative) also may react to MSM. This is usually due to a deficiency of molybdenum and can be overcome with supplementation.

Perhaps the "Bible" on MSM is the book: The Miracle of MSM - The Natural Solution to Pain by Stanley W. Jacob, M.D. [the DMSO guru as well], Ronald M. Lawrence, M.D., PhD, and Martin Zucker

Here is an article on the easiest way to take MSM:
How To Make MSM Water

Supercharging This Treatment

MSM should always be taken with Vitamin C and Vitamin B12. Start at about 1 gram of MSM per day, then build up over the period of a week to at least 3 grams a day. Start at about 3 grams of Vitamin C per day (one gram, three times a day), then over the period of two weeks build up to 12 grams per day (4 grams, three times a day). Take the maximum dose of a high quality Vitamin B12 supplement. A person should also take spirulina in order to get organic Vitamin B12 (e.g. 12 grams a day). Spirulina is a food, like celery, not a supplement, thus there is no limit to how much you can safely take.

If you get diarrhia, then take smaller doses of Vitamin C, more times a day, or build up more slowly.

An alternative cancer treatment should be a complete treatment protocol. Do NOT forget to study the complete treatment protocol for Stage I, II and III cancer patients and the complete treatment protocol for Stage IV cancer patients:
Treatment For Stage I, II and III Cancer Patients
Treatment For Stage IV Cancer Patients
Note

Additives to MSM in order to make it flow more easily or for other reasons, such as silcon dioxide, may have a significant negative affect on the body's ability to absorb MSM. The two vendors I list below claim to have zero silicon dioxide or other additives in their products.

http://www.cancertutor.com/Other/NoCancer.html

Maria Stade
22nd November 2011, 00:47
[

Hopefully the medical monopoly on the false cures for cancer, will crumble soon and The Holistic method/approach will come into play soon Sid.

It is already happening in small corners of the world... the blending of conventional and naturopathic. We have some excellent doctors of Naturopathy in my area that combine things and do excellent work, repeatedly curing the incurable in things like joint degeneration, Lyme, cardiac issues, Hep C and some cancers.

I was actually reading about how to survive in wilderness to day and this book was to millitarys (kind of survivel guide )
Sadly poor knowledge of what all that they can eat in nature (poor buggers if they follow that they will go hungry often)

But what supriced me was that they had put in Plants as medicine even though they stated that there was no sientific facts but that they have been used by native people and had active substance that is known to work !

Lol it was a funny reading !

But yeas there is a change clearly !

WhiteFeather
22nd November 2011, 01:00
[

Hopefully the medical monopoly on the false cures for cancer, will crumble soon and The Holistic method/approach will come into play soon Sid.

It is already happening in small corners of the world... the blending of conventional and naturopathic. We have some excellent doctors of Naturopathy in my area that combine things and do excellent work, repeatedly curing the incurable in things like joint degeneration, Lyme, cardiac issues, Hep C and some cancers.

I was actually reading about how to survive in wilderness to day and this book was to millitarys (kind of survivel guide )
Sadly poor knowledge of what all that they can eat in nature (poor buggers if they follow that they will go hungry often)

But what supriced me was that they had put in Plants as medicine even though they stated that there was no sientific facts but that they have been used by native people and had active substance that is known to work !

Lol it was a funny reading !

But yeas there is a change clearly !

Can you find the ebook or pdf of the book, and post it. That would be cool.

Maria Stade
22nd November 2011, 01:06
[

Hopefully the medical monopoly on the false cures for cancer, will crumble soon and The Holistic method/approach will come into play soon Sid.

It is already happening in small corners of the world... the blending of conventional and naturopathic. We have some excellent doctors of Naturopathy in my area that combine things and do excellent work, repeatedly curing the incurable in things like joint degeneration, Lyme, cardiac issues, Hep C and some cancers.

I was actually reading about how to survive in wilderness to day and this book was to millitarys (kind of survivel guide )
Sadly poor knowledge of what all that they can eat in nature (poor buggers if they follow that they will go hungry often)

But what supriced me was that they had put in Plants as medicine even though they stated that there was no sientific facts but that they have been used by native people and had active substance that is known to work !

Lol it was a funny reading !

But yeas there is a change clearly !

Can you find the ebook or pdf of the book, and post it. That would be cool.

Yes her it is In Swedish but I think you can manage with some translation program !

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/downloads/pdf/h_overlevnad.pdf

Starseed_Dorina
22nd November 2011, 23:02
Thank you!
I've tried to post a new thread as we have also read and worked on, another alternative medicine against cancer and other heavy weigth illness, but I do not seem to have (yet?) the permission to create a new thread. So sad.

So, meanwhile I'll wait.
Greetings from Mexico!

Daughter of Time
23rd November 2011, 22:12
A few days ago I posted about visiting a dying friend. He passed away yesterday. I'm glad that at least his physical suffering is over.
Spirits have communicated with me since I was a young child, so whenever someone passes, they always show up. It took a whole 24 hours for me to feel his presence.
Although his body no longer feels pain, he is very angry at the system which he trusted but now he feels totally let down. He had donated so much money to the very hospital that butchered and poisoned him and treated him like a number.
I guess my job now is to calmn him down. I talk to him but he's so upset, and since only my mother and I can feel his presence, we get the brunt of his anger.
Strange, as I write this, I can feel him calming down. i know this is not the appropriate thread to be writing about spirits, so my apologies for the misplacement of my thoughts.
May you nor your loved ones never have to suffer my friend's fate.
I am grateful for this site. Best wishes to you all.

Lord Sidious
23rd November 2011, 23:33
A few days ago I posted about visiting a dying friend. He passed away yesterday. I'm glad that at least his physical suffering is over.
Spirits have communicated with me since I was a young child, so whenever someone passes, they always show up. It took a whole 24 hours for me to feel his presence.
Although his body no longer feels pain, he is very angry at the system which he trusted but now he feels totally let down. He had donated so much money to the very hospital that butchered and poisoned him and treated him like a number.
I guess my job now is to calmn him down. I talk to him but he's so upset, and since only my mother and I can feel his presence, we get the brunt of his anger.
Strange, as I write this, I can feel him calming down. i know this is not the appropriate thread to be writing about spirits, so my apologies for the misplacement of my thoughts.
May you nor your loved ones never have to suffer my friend's fate.
I am grateful for this site. Best wishes to you all.

Tell him his anger is misplaced.
He is in a better place right now and there is nothing anyone can do about what happened.
Tell him to release the anger and move onto his next role.
When he is ready to take that up.
And above all, everything is as it is meant to be, there is no reason for sorrow or anger.

Daughter of Time
23rd November 2011, 23:48
Thank you Lord Sidious.
He enojoyed earthly life and is sorry he hate to give it up so young.
He had a good heart and always tried to help in any way he could, but he did not believe in the continuous existence of the soul, so this is all very confusing to him.
I'll keep talking to him. I'm sure sooner or later he will understand.

Lord Sidious
23rd November 2011, 23:51
Thank you Lord Sidious.
He enojoyed earthly life and is sorry he hate to give it up so young.
He had a good heart and always tried to help in any way he could, but he did not believe in the continuous existence of the soul, so this is all very confusing to him.
I'll keep talking to him. I'm sure sooner or later he will understand.

You might want to ask him why could he possibly be angry when he is free and we are not, not yet?
All of the physical limitations and ailments he had are now gone.
Why should the butterfly be angry about coming out of the cocoon?

Daughter of Time
24th November 2011, 00:50
I have asked other discarnate beings why they missed the earthly experiences so much. It is usually attached to food, wine and sex. Eventually, they understand how much more free they are, but initially they really miss the pleasures of the flesh.

buckminster fuller
24th November 2011, 01:26
found this : http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clarkaff/primack.html

always good to have a counter-opinion..

Edit : wrong link posted... would have avoided some confusion.. my bad. link updated

yet another link, looking at what is said in the previous one.

http://www.hulda-clark-quack.com/Hulda_Clark_Quack2.html

Lord Sidious
24th November 2011, 01:52
If it is of value, sure.
If it is not, then no.

buckminster fuller
24th November 2011, 02:29
well this is the part where discernment comes into play...

Lord Sidious
24th November 2011, 03:09
There wasn't much to discern from that link really.
They said a lot, but said nothing.

ThePythonicCow
24th November 2011, 04:10
found this : http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/immuneboost.html

always good to have a counter-opinion..
Informed counter opinions are good, yes.

Quackwatch has a reputation on the health forums I frequent for attacking any form of alternative health however, rather than for its informed opinions.

In this case, the article you linked ends with:
Thus the notion that cancer represents a failure of the immune system is simplistic. ... Thus the odds that any dietary measure, herb, or other "alternative" approach will solve the problem of cancer by increasing immune surveillance should be regarded as zero.

Bzzt ... non sequitur. "It's not that simple" does not imply "zero chance".

I'm sure that the "standard Western medicine" measures to address cancer and heart disease are more complicated than thought earlier. But you can bet you bottom dollar that Stephen Barrett (operator of Quackwatch) is not about to say that there is zero chance of such procedures having any value.

I do not find that quackwatch link to be "good" - sorry.

buckminster fuller
24th November 2011, 13:01
found this : http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/immuneboost.html

always good to have a counter-opinion..
Informed counter opinions are good, yes.

Quackwatch has a reputation on the health forums I frequent for attacking any form of alternative health however, rather than for its informed opinions.

In this case, the article you linked ends with:
Thus the notion that cancer represents a failure of the immune system is simplistic. ... Thus the odds that any dietary measure, herb, or other "alternative" approach will solve the problem of cancer by increasing immune surveillance should be regarded as zero.

Bzzt ... non sequitur. "It's not that simple" does not imply "zero chance".

I'm sure that the "standard Western medicine" measures to address cancer and heart disease are more complicated than thought earlier. But you can bet you bottom dollar that Stephen Barrett (operator of Quackwatch) is not about to say that there is zero chance of such procedures having any value.

I do not find that quackwatch link to be "good" - sorry.

Where did I say it was THE good opinion to follow...? You are measuring intents over arguments in a way. I think there are valuable points made in this paper, and of course it is one sided... As much as the "cures for all cancers" book is...
Thus discernment is needed, as it is for everything.

No need to be sorry, my well being hopefully doesn't rely on other people's opinions.

ThePythonicCow
24th November 2011, 22:31
Where did I say it was THE good opinion to follow...?
You're engaging in a common rhetorical fallacy - denying something you weren't accused of, in an effort to distract the reader.

My point stands - warning readers that that quackwatch article you linked was a bogus attack on alternative cancer treatments, and as such, was typical for that site (and not worth posting here.)

music
24th November 2011, 23:13
Many good points raised here. Low body pH is good, my recent return to vegetarianism is making me feel better every day. I wouldn't say occasional use of colloidal silver might insult my immune system. Rather than an interloper doing it's job, my IS would see it as a helping hand every now and then. Same as echinnacea, or garlic and horseradish, or tea tree. Attitude is everything, and every illness and pain is not a judgement, but an indication that something needs addressing, either physically, spiritually or emotionally. I practised as a reflexologist for many years, and have interest and knowledge in many alternative medicine areas, and in all of them, attitude is the key, and listening to our body is the oil that smooths the tumblers of the lock.

ThePythonicCow
25th November 2011, 00:59
Low body pH is good
This sounds backwards to me. I thought low pH was more acidic, and that vegetarians were seeking a more alkaline (higher pH) body.

Lord Sidious
25th November 2011, 01:07
Yeah, it is backwards.
PH should be around 7, so yeah, alkaline.

Arrowwind
26th November 2011, 23:00
Thank you Lord Sidious.
He enojoyed earthly life and is sorry he hate to give it up so young.
He had a good heart and always tried to help in any way he could, but he did not believe in the continuous existence of the soul, so this is all very confusing to him.
I'll keep talking to him. I'm sure sooner or later he will understand.

You might want to ask him why could he possibly be angry when he is free and we are not, not yet?
All of the physical limitations and ailments he had are now gone.
Why should the butterfly be angry about coming out of the cocoon?

The problem is Lord Sidious, is that he is not free. He is only free of a body. Daughter of Time be sure to tell him that he is dead and that he is still responsible for creating his reality.

Lord Sidious
27th November 2011, 01:42
Thank you Lord Sidious.
He enojoyed earthly life and is sorry he hate to give it up so young.
He had a good heart and always tried to help in any way he could, but he did not believe in the continuous existence of the soul, so this is all very confusing to him.
I'll keep talking to him. I'm sure sooner or later he will understand.

You might want to ask him why could he possibly be angry when he is free and we are not, not yet?
All of the physical limitations and ailments he had are now gone.
Why should the butterfly be angry about coming out of the cocoon?

The problem is Lord Sidious, is that he is not free. He is only free of a body. Daughter of Time be sure to tell him that he is dead and that he is still responsible for creating his reality.

Ok, you got me on a technicality.
He is free of this reality, the physical one.
That is what I meant, but I didn't type that up as I didn't think I had to.

music
27th November 2011, 09:34
Low body pH is good
This sounds backwards to me. I thought low pH was more acidic, and that vegetarians were seeking a more alkaline (higher pH) body.

True, I meant the other way round. Thanks :)

buckminster fuller
28th November 2011, 12:59
Posted the wrong link earlier, here : http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35002-The-Cure-For-All-Cancers-On-PDF&p=362623&viewfull=1#post362623

link updated, sorry for confusion, and subsequent "judgmentality".

learninglight
2nd December 2011, 11:33
Hi all

My best friend is in remision with breast cancer and my sons partners father has throat cancer so i was doing a bit of digging and came across Rife...what a man!!!
As he has been mentioned here i thought i'd post the docu i watched the other night, its riviting and will show those who don't know about him what he did and the outcome...disgusting what they did to him imo

gEt5zd3YYHw

much love

Violet
3rd December 2011, 18:10
Check This Out! Just Stumbled Across This. Very Interesting!
For You Hollistic Avalonian Peeps.

Including Over 100 Case Histories of Persons Cured:
Plus two revolutionary electronic circuits, one to diagnose and monitor progress,
the other to zap parasites and bacteria!


Hulda Regehr Clark, Ph.D.,N.D

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Hulda.pdf

I'm now reading the dishwater, deodorant and other stuff...So interesting. I was already applying various of these tips and so this one won my confidence as far as that part is concerned. So: Thanks so much!

However, can anyone here on the forum actually testify to having cured from cancer using any of the advice in this book?

WhiteFeather
9th December 2011, 13:58
Check This Out! Just Stumbled Across This. Very Interesting!
For You Hollistic Avalonian Peeps.

Including Over 100 Case Histories of Persons Cured:
Plus two revolutionary electronic circuits, one to diagnose and monitor progress,
the other to zap parasites and bacteria!


Hulda Regehr Clark, Ph.D.,N.D

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Hulda.pdf

I'm now reading the dishwater, deodorant and other stuff...So interesting. I was already applying various of these tips and so this one won my confidence as far as that part is concerned. So: Thanks so much!

However, can anyone here on the forum actually testify to having cured from cancer using any of the advice in this book?

I'm sure there are some people here that can respond to that question perhaps. Maybe someone could start a thread on this subject.

WhiteFeather
9th December 2011, 14:09
Does anyone know where a good safe reliable place to purchase MMS in the USA is?
I got mine from www.theMMSstore.com. I've only placed one order with them, but from everything I've seen, and what little I experienced, they are excellent.

Bumping this quote. Thanks Paul not many people know where to purchase MMS, I as well.

ZAINA
9th December 2011, 15:23
http://kelleyeidem.hubpages.com/hub/How-I-Cured-Stage-4-Cancer-in-Two-Weeks-For-Less-Than-The-Cost-Of-A-Night-At-The-Movies#comment-6988664

This simple Diet seems to be working for a few people with Cancer ..