Science and Islam

[The One]

Physicist Jim Al-Khalili travels through Syria, Iran, Tunisia and Spain to tell the story of the great leap in scientific knowledge that took place in the Islamic world between the 8th and 14th centuries.

Its legacy is tangible, with terms like algebra, algorithm and alkali all being Arabic in origin and at the very heart of modern science – there would be no modern mathematics or physics without algebra, no computers without algorithms and no chemistry without alkalis.

For Baghdad-born Al-Khalili this is also a personal journey and on his travels he uncovers a diverse and outward-looking culture, fascinated by learning and obsessed with science.

From the great mathematician Al-Khwarizmi, who did much to establish the mathematical tradition we now know as algebra, to Ibn Sina, a pioneer of early medicine whose Canon of Medicine was still in use as recently as the 19th century, he pieces together a remarkable story of the often-overlooked achievements of the early medieval Islamic scientists.

Sit back relax and enjoy.Comes in three parts

Science and Islam: Part 1: The Language of Science
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Science and Islam: Part 2: The Empire of Reason
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Science and Islam: part 3: The Power of Doubt
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[Davidallany]

Good videos, but no mention of Aliens, one would think that with all this scientific wealth that spans across hundreds of years, there is a mention of building of the pyramids, Atlantis, UFOs and Aliens. Where are the books concerning these subjects? I am left with one conclusion, the books of great value have been moved to a secure location.

[TWINCANS]

Yet more history that is never taught in schools. This is another example of the repression of knowledge by religious institutions. In the quest for knowledge only the Islamic scientists were free to move forward during these centuries. Thankfully so because they protected the high wisdoms out of Egypt etc, and continued the learning. The western world was systematically shuttered by the roman church. Any inquiry outside of the fiction they stood behind was immediately suppressed, including destroying archeology etc. (We know how the astronomers and mathematicians were treated and excommunicated.) Ironically when they set their forces loose on the 'holy land' they opened the pandora's box that ultimately broke the stranglehold they had on western civilization, and the west could rejoin the human story.

[PathWalker]

Science and religion are oximorons.
Religion will do all it can to twist and subdue the science to its control system.
It works now as it worked then.
The Islam banned the litrarcy till the 15th century.
Now see the literacy of the Arab nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_literacy_rate.svg

[Seikou-Kishi]

Science and religion are oximorons.
Religion will do all it can to twist and subdue the science to its control system.
It works now as it worked then.
The Islam banned the litrarcy till the 15th century.
Now see the literacy of the Arab nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_literacy_rate.svg

Oh I'm not so sure. Religion could be good, but religious people have a knack of making it a birch for one's back

[ktlight]

Organised religions work to entrap the mind and each organised religion houses elements of the same edited/adjusted written truths. True religion comes by taking steps on your own path, inevitably thereby becoming deeply religious.

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Science and religion are oximorons.
Religion will do all it can to twist and subdue the science to its control system.
It works now as it worked then.
The Islam banned the litrarcy till the 15th century.
Now see the literacy of the Arab nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_literacy_rate.svg


Access to literacy was the exclusive domain of the elite everywhere until recent history. I really don't see your point about literacy rates in the Arab world. All it shows is that the more oil a country has, the higher the literacy rate. I don't know what issues you have with Arabs, that is a matter for your own conscience, but it is an undeniable historical fact, that without Islamic patronage of the sciences, we would have lost much ancient wisdom and understanding, and the works of many great philosophers would also be incomplete. It is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who administer religion that turn a thing of beauty into an instrument of oppression.

[shamanseeker]

Good videos, but no mention of Aliens, one would think that with all this scientific wealth that spans across hundreds of years, there is a mention of building of the pyramids, Atlantis, UFOs and Aliens. Where are the books concerning these subjects? I am left with one conclusion, the books of great value have been moved to a secure location.

The Vatican?

[Lord Sidious]

Science and religion are oximorons.
Religion will do all it can to twist and subdue the science to its control system.
It works now as it worked then.
The Islam banned the litrarcy till the 15th century.
Now see the literacy of the Arab nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_literacy_rate.svg


Access to literacy was the exclusive domain of the elite everywhere until recent history. I really don't see your point about literacy rates in the Arab world. All it shows is that the more oil a country has, the higher the literacy rate. I don't know what issues you have with Arabs, that is a matter for your own conscience, but it is an undeniable historical fact, that without Islamic patronage of the sciences, we would have lost much ancient wisdom and understanding, and the works of many great philosophers would also be incomplete. It is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who administer religion that turn a thing of beauty into an instrument of oppression.

From what I know of PathWalker, he doesn't have issues with arabs.
If anything, I would think he is sympathetic to their plight in many cases.

[ktlight]

An Iraqi neurologist whom I used to work for told me with great pride that Iraq produced a complete understanding of the eye. Arabs and Jews are brothers from ages old.

[modwiz]

Science and religion are oximorons.
Religion will do all it can to twist and subdue the science to its control system.
It works now as it worked then.
The Islam banned the litrarcy till the 15th century.
Now see the literacy of the Arab nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_literacy_rate.svg


Access to literacy was the exclusive domain of the elite everywhere until recent history. I really don't see your point about literacy rates in the Arab world. All it shows is that the more oil a country has, the higher the literacy rate. I don't know what issues you have with Arabs, that is a matter for your own conscience, but it is an undeniable historical fact, that without Islamic patronage of the sciences, we would have lost much ancient wisdom and understanding, and the works of many great philosophers would also be incomplete. It is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who administer religion that turn a thing of beauty into an instrument of oppression.

There is no question that Islam passed the light of science to the Christian world after they completely spurned and burned almost everything left to them by the Ancients because of their polytheism.

The Muslims proved the wiser, and kinder, people of the book.

[Davidallany]

The Vatican?
You read my mind :)

[Simonm]

The Arab world giving the rest of us knowledge is no new thing.. Nearly everything we know today is derived from the Sumerians. We still use the sexigesimal number system that is our modern mathematics have emerged from. The Sumerians gave us so many things we take for granted. Medicine, marriage, law, education. In fact so many that if you were to list them they would take up to 30 pages of a4 sheets to list them all.

[Davidallany]

The Arab world giving the rest of us knowledge is no new thing.. Nearly everything we know today is derived from the Sumerians. We still use the sexigesimal number system that is our modern mathematics have emerged from. The Sumerians gave us so many things we take for granted. Medicine, marriage, law, education. In fact so many that if you were to list them they would take up to 30 pages of a4 sheets to list them all.
I didn't know Sumerians were Arabs.

[Simonm]

Sumeria was in present day Iraq. Close enough. My point is, the Sumerians got their knowledge from somewhere. They claim it was their predecessors, who made us what we are and gave us the knowledge to continue.

Modern day Iraq WAS part of Ancient Arabia.

http://www.livius.org/ap-ark/arabia/arabia.html

[Seikou-Kishi]

Science and religion are oximorons.
Religion will do all it can to twist and subdue the science to its control system.
It works now as it worked then.
The Islam banned the litrarcy till the 15th century.
Now see the literacy of the Arab nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_literacy_rate.svg


Access to literacy was the exclusive domain of the elite everywhere until recent history. I really don't see your point about literacy rates in the Arab world. All it shows is that the more oil a country has, the higher the literacy rate. I don't know what issues you have with Arabs, that is a matter for your own conscience, but it is an undeniable historical fact, that without Islamic patronage of the sciences, we would have lost much ancient wisdom and understanding, and the works of many great philosophers would also be incomplete. It is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who administer religion that turn a thing of beauty into an instrument of oppression.

There is no question that Islam passed the light of science to the Christian world after they completely spurned and burned almost everything left to them by the Ancients because of their polytheism.

The Muslims proved the wiser, and kinder, people of the book.

Medicine arose in the Muslim world because not every niggle was a result of God's condemnation. Chemistry arose in the Muslim world because God provided fixed natural laws which could be studied rather than mystical maybes and sinister shadows. Algebra arose in the Muslim world because the intellect wasn't something to subvert beneath blind obedience to the bishop.

Either that, or they just weren't as fanatical as in Christendom.

[TWINCANS]

The Arab world giving the rest of us knowledge is no new thing.. Nearly everything we know today is derived from the Sumerians. We still use the sexigesimal number system that is our modern mathematics have emerged from. The Sumerians gave us so many things we take for granted. Medicine, marriage, law, education. In fact so many that if you were to list them they would take up to 30 pages of a4 sheets to list them all.

Ah, now those folks were not 'giving information'. All those wonderfulnesses mentioned that are the supposed hallmarks of civilization are the ties that bind. Those folks are the ones who are the overseers, the repressors, the alien entities that put humans in the shackles of controlling systems, the very systems we need to turn to dust. Mathematics is a far grander pursuit than the half truths the sumerians allowed the humans to use to count their money. Law is divine law, not their intellectualisms that twist truth. Education reaches for impenetrable truths, encourages individual excellence, not rote time gobbling repetition of fictions that steal the best years of our youths' lives and give little in return.

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Science and religion are oximorons.
Religion will do all it can to twist and subdue the science to its control system.
It works now as it worked then.
The Islam banned the litrarcy till the 15th century.
Now see the literacy of the Arab nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arab_literacy_rate.svg


Access to literacy was the exclusive domain of the elite everywhere until recent history. I really don't see your point about literacy rates in the Arab world. All it shows is that the more oil a country has, the higher the literacy rate. I don't know what issues you have with Arabs, that is a matter for your own conscience, but it is an undeniable historical fact, that without Islamic patronage of the sciences, we would have lost much ancient wisdom and understanding, and the works of many great philosophers would also be incomplete. It is not religion that is the problem, it is the people who administer religion that turn a thing of beauty into an instrument of oppression.

There is no question that Islam passed the light of science to the Christian world after they completely spurned and burned almost everything left to them by the Ancients because of their polytheism.

The Muslims proved the wiser, and kinder, people of the book.

Medicine arose in the Muslim world because not every niggle was a result of God's condemnation. Chemistry arose in the Muslim world because God provided fixed natural laws which could be studied rather than mystical maybes and sinister shadows. Algebra arose in the Muslim world because the intellect wasn't something to subvert beneath blind obedience to the bishop.

Either that, or they just weren't as fanatical as in Christendom.


No offense is meant by this comment but - until now.

[Simonm]

Aye up Twin. Aye, fully agree that the sumerian overlords / gods / whoever, most likely did it for their own gain and not for the benefit of mankind to go it al alone. There is probably a shed load of teachings that most likely will never get to the masses, to be controlled by those with the ultimate knowledge as yet unknown.