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Bill Ryan
21st March 2010, 05:38
Hi, All:
This thread is an opportunity to discuss the recent interview with Marcel Messing:
http://projectavalon.net/marcel_messing.html
This is a wonderful man, and a wonderful interview. Quite a few people have said that this is one of the best they've yet seen. One friend blew me away by writing: The interview with Marcel Messing is the greatest gift you have given to us. It is so beautiful, it brought tears to my eyes.
High praise! But it was Marcel's gift, not mine. Do find time for this, if you've not yet done so.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8irRLv2Vz1A
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HORIZONS
21st March 2010, 13:15
Thank you for posting the Marcel Video, I was very moved - yet silenced - by it all. A very profound and focused message for our times. He is very fortunate to have been able to study the old literary works he has had access to, and to have spent time with true spiritual teachers, and we are fortunate to hear him speak from those studies and experiences. I would like to hear more! I can understand his need to get away at times and be in a place of solitude for inner contemplation ~ I find I need to do this as well. I would be interested in the book he is currently working on - I hope it is printed in english as well.
Jenny
21st March 2010, 13:28
Marcel Messing is a messenger pur sang. A light beacon for all of us.
He is very well educated and well connected to all kinds of people.
The first book by Messing I read was a book about the songs of the troubadours in medieval times as they would visit the Cathars ( Katharen) and their castles in the south of France
It is only in Dutch and that is a shame as I would love to put up some strophes of these songs and poems.
I bought it as a present for a good friend who needed an uplifting message to his higher self.
I got a bit more insight in who Marcel is and what he stands for as I met his nephew Martijn who was my NLP teacher a few years back. We talked about his uncle several times.
Bill, I loved the way you let Marcel talk and spin out his thoughts and views to the end. You never interrupted or changed his line of speech and thought.
That is what I need to really " get " it.
Thanks.
dim
21st March 2010, 15:48
From Dan Burisch to Marcel Messing the collective consciousness of Avalon seems to be evolving right on track, isn't it ...
kinsuemei2
21st March 2010, 15:58
This was a wonderful interview and I think should be required viewing.
Swami
21st March 2010, 17:10
I would like to hear more!
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2332685
Tango
21st March 2010, 17:20
Bill,
Outstanding production quality... Lighting, is outstanding; Perfect POV of camera.... Nice Audio... Fine job on the editing also...
I See NO shadows.... You have a Great DP...
Trooly,
Tango
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HORIZONS
21st March 2010, 17:35
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2332685
Thanks Swami
Shairia
21st March 2010, 18:07
Thank you Bill for providing us with that interview. This was a very powerful reminder to all of us in opening ourselves up for our missions here at this time. I had just finished listening to another interview of his last night so this was very timely. Again thank you.
lunaflare
21st March 2010, 20:28
to sense marcel's stillness and to feel his inner silence in a spoken interview was indeed a gift- like having a golden shower (the ones i remember as a child- running under huge tress, through sun-rays).
marcel's deep sense to understand evil was an interesting motivator for his studies and personal quest for inner knowing.
even the tibetans monks know (some first hand) the other side of life's paradox: the cruel and dark side-that is expressed here on earth.
i would have liked to have heard his thoughts as to the "mind" who engineered, and thus made happen the act of the falling towers.
mike1414
22nd March 2010, 20:24
really ejoyed this interview, what a lovely being. he seems to radiate a sense of love and wisdom
thank you for making it
peace always
mike
golden lady
23rd March 2010, 12:59
Thank you so much Bill for this beautiful interview. What a wondeful role model Marcel is. Something for us all to aim for. I would to hear more.
Love and Peace
Gollden
sunnydaze
24th March 2010, 11:10
This was a tremendous interview, thankyou Bill, and many many thanks to Marcel Messing for his beautiful spirit, it really did bring tears to my eyes. An education on what being human really is. This is definitely the sort of stuff we need to draw on when negative feelings of fear start creeping in,
love and light,
Jo
Jacqui D
25th March 2010, 23:42
Best interview i have heard ever!! thanks Bill, what a beautiful soul, i truly connected i would love to hear more.
blessings,
Jacqui
cloud9
27th March 2010, 03:56
Great interview indeed, he's a very gentle human being who knows what reality is.
JoshERTW
27th March 2010, 13:10
Marcel mentioned that this is not a time "to start new projects" in his interview. That struck me as something to keep in mind, but I was wondering if anyone could clarify what was meant by this comment? For me personally, my work consists of "starting new projects" on a daily basis, and I still need to continue this to support family etc. Is he saying to maintain more of a 'holding pattern' until something happens or what? I took it to mean not getting involved in additional frivolous pursuits - and have curtailed some of the more time draining ones since hearing the interview.
samvado
27th March 2010, 13:56
Had listened to it when it came up, but didnt save the audio. wanted to re-listen but cant download it (fully). the d/l always breakes at 1-5 mb. any pointers anyone?
Terra
28th March 2010, 02:57
Thanks for making this video Bill.
Marcel Messing is one of my favorite characters from all of the Camelot archives, he seems such a colourful and wonderful person, inspiring.
Cheers
irishspirit
28th March 2010, 09:37
Bill, thankyou very much for this one. Excellent quality and and excellent to see an interview where the guest has been able to put his point across without being stopped. This man has an amazing way of think. I will be researching his work alot more now. Kepp it up Bill, with work to that quaility, you will done fine my friend.
jeannacav
12th April 2010, 23:39
Thank you, bill.
I especially appreciate Marcel's attitude of compassion and forgiveness toward those caught in their own evil doings.
This is powerful love, and so rare.
I am also very grateful you met with him and gave him the permission to drive his own interview.
I think we are all the more informed and able to spiritually connect with him as a result.
Thank you,
jeanna
freespirit
13th April 2010, 13:34
Quality ! nuff said.
Astra
13th April 2010, 14:01
Thank you, bill.
I especially appreciate Marcel's attitude of compassion and forgiveness toward those caught in their own evil doings.
This is powerful love, and so rare.
I am also very grateful you met with him and gave him the permission to drive his own interview.
I think we are all the more informed and able to spiritually connect with him as a result.
Thank you,
jeanna
This was a great interview, Bill. Marcel emanates pure Love... very inspiring to listen to. His wisdom and his gentle heart was a real gift! Thank you.
Peace and Love for all,
Astra
thedot
12th May 2010, 21:33
Loved it all, from the first to the last word! Closer to the end got a little bit worried when he said, "We are the One". Thought, "Hell, he cannot support that New Age's Oneness Doctrine bull****!" And, lol, it's as if he had heard me, and immediately corrected himself: "We are the ONES"!! Meaning "individuals", "INDIVI-DUALS", "indivisible duality" in each and every one. :)
grace
12th May 2010, 23:26
would anyone be interested in translating anything interesting on Marcel's website that he didn't talk about in the video? i tried an online translator but they are never any good.
http://www.marcelmessing.nl/content.asp?m=M2&l=NL
AlphaZebra
22nd June 2010, 23:40
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Bill Ryan interviews Marcel Messing : a Project Avalon video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8irRLv2Vz1A&feature=youtube_gdata)
Marcel Messing is a 21st century Renaissance Man: trained in anthropology, philosophy, and comparative religion, he is a writer, speaker, teacher and visionary for whom English is his fourth language.He has traveled widely, has studied in India, has written 25 books, and took time from writing his 26th to meet with me to give a fascinating interview in which he creates a strong bridge between the practical problems of our time, the plans and intentions of the controllers of Planet Earth, and our fundamental, unassailable, spiritual nature. Marcel's own wake-up call occurred while visiting New York twenty years ago - a full decade before 9/11. Standing on top of the Empire State Building, he was looking at the Twin Towers... and saw them fall with his own eyes. Listen to the message that this remarkable man brings us in this video. http://projectavalon.netbill@projectavalon.net
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greybeard
3rd July 2010, 11:47
Thanks Bill excellent interview / video.
Chris
yiolas
3rd July 2010, 21:03
Bill, rarely has another human being spoken to my heart of hearts like Marcel Messing did in your interview. His words flowed like a cool spring in the middle of a hot desert. Thank-you from the center of my heart.
I must mention as well, the beautiful chant at the beginning of the video. Can you please tell us where we can find more of this ?
If you ever find yourself in this part of Europe, please know that you have a friend in Cyprus.
kriya
3rd July 2010, 22:21
Bill, rarely has another human being spoken to my heart of hearts like Marcel Messing did in your interview. His words flowed like a cool spring in the middle of a hot desert. Thank-you from the center of my heart.
I must mention as well, the beautiful chant at the beginning of the video. Can you please tell us where we can find more of this ?
If you ever find yourself in this part of Europe, please know that you have a friend in Cyprus.
Absolutely!! A beautiful soul......
Yiolas, I agree about the OM chant at the beginning of the video. Meditate upon that, and you will experience the Divine, as that sound is the creative vibration of the universe.
Love,
Kriya
I hope there will be a transcript for the interview.
Bill Ryan
4th July 2010, 09:42
I hope there will be a transcript for the interview.
The transcript's here...
http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/marcel_messing_wake_up_call_en.html
Absolutely!! A beautiful soul......
Yiolas, I agree about the OM chant at the beginning of the video. Meditate upon that, and you will experience the Divine, as that sound is the creative vibration of the universe.
Many people have asked about the stunningly beautiful mantra in the introduction. It's the Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra for Healing, sung by Hein Braat:
http://www.yoga-ez.com/gayatri-mantra.html
yiolas
4th July 2010, 10:20
Marcel mentioned that this is not a time "to start new projects" in his interview. That struck me as something to keep in mind, but I was wondering if anyone could clarify what was meant by this comment? For me personally, my work consists of "starting new projects" on a daily basis, and I still need to continue this to support family etc. Is he saying to maintain more of a 'holding pattern' until something happens or what? I took it to mean not getting involved in additional frivolous pursuits - and have curtailed some of the more time draining ones since hearing the interview.
Hi, Josh ! Thanks for bringing this topic up. I agree with your interpretation of what Marcel said about starting new projects. I think his reasoning may be two fold. One is that we will not have the time to bring any new project to its fruition whether it be a new business or a new relationship. I too find that I am in a holding pattern. Eventhough I always try to be polite, I do not actively try to make new friends any more, but rather step back and allow others to come to me. I am content with what I a doing professionally just try to maintain the household.
The other is that perhaps we should focus more on resolving all of our existing karmic ties and not create any new ones . We might not have the time to resolve any newly created karma.The new energies coming in from the center of the universe are assisting us in breaking up and resolving these issues. We should take advantage of this.
On another note, I too wish to agree with jeannacav about Marcel's attitude of compassion and forgiveness toward those caught in their own evil doings. This is the only way to react if we wish their actions to cease being a part of our own realities and too help them on a karmic level to break their bad karmic cycle.
greybeard
4th July 2010, 10:48
One spiritual teacher said. " Give it up before it is taken from you"
That just means dont be attached to anything.
Without going into detail, I have been reasonably successful in business however when I got really serious and committed to the path of enlightenment about 15 years back, relationships / people left my life, every attempt at being "successful" even with the best intention ( a healing center started) failed rapidly.
I was being made homeless and at the last moment the local council stepped in declared me vulnerable and against all the odds I am placed in a small bungalow.
All my needs are taken care of in a modest way, I have no responsibility, I am free to concentrate on my chosen path, while living life to the full in the moment.
Challenges come up but are seen in a different way from the ways of old.
Like everyone else I need encouragement, confirmation if you will that I am being guided correctly, The Interview of Marcel Messing is a strong indicator that yes Love prevails, forgiveness essential. What we sow we reap
Its that simple.
We want a New Earth then we have to be the change we want to see.
Marcel in the last twenty minutes of the interview, ably prompted by Bill defines HOPE.
The love flows out of the man. No agenda, genuine love for all expressed from the heart.
What else do we need?
How much prompting by souls such as Marcel do we need before we get it?
No enemy, nothing to prove, no need to be right.
Just Love in action.
Lets look forward fearlessly to our new world after all we did ask for it.
Namaste
Chris
Hi Bill,
Thank you so much for the transcript. Much appreciated.
Hi Greybeard,
I have a lot of respects for you after reading all your posts. I have thought about commitment to the path of enlightement for a long time, but still haven't started yet, as I still have responsibilities with my family. But the feeling is there. Something inside me keeps reminding me that I need to start soon. I remember reading this saying from Yogananda from this forum, that really struck me as a big reminder: "This can wait, and that can wait, but the search for God should not wait."
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and wisdom.
truthseekerdan
5th July 2010, 03:56
One spiritual teacher said. " Give it up before it is taken from you"
That just means dont be attached to anything.
Without going into detail, I have been reasonably successful in business however when I got really serious and committed to the path of enlightenment about 15 years back, relationships / people left my life, every attempt at being "successful" even with the best intention ( a healing center started) failed rapidly.
I was being made homeless and at the last moment the local council stepped in declared me vulnerable and against all the odds I am placed in a small bungalow.
All my needs are taken care of in a modest way, I have no responsibility, I am free to concentrate on my chosen path, while living life to the full in the moment.
Challenges come up but are seen in a different way from the ways of old.
Like everyone else I need encouragement, confirmation if you will that I am being guided correctly, The Interview of Marcel Messing is a strong indicator that yes Love prevails, forgiveness essential. What we sow we reap
Its that simple.
We want a New Earth then we have to be the change we want to see.
Marcel in the last twenty minutes of the interview, ably prompted by Bill defines HOPE.
The love flows out of the man. No agenda, genuine love for all expressed from the heart.
What else do we need?
How much prompting by souls such as Marcel do we need before we get it?
No enemy, nothing to prove, no need to be right.
Just Love in action.
Lets look forward fearlessly to our new world after all we did ask for it.
Namaste
Chris
Thanks to you Bill and Chris. :) Really great insights interview. :thumb:
It is now posted on the Spiritual Oasis Forum also.
Love you all, :wub:
Dan
Rimbaud
11th July 2010, 02:39
It's probably too late to post this now, But i saw marcel in the Leclerc supermarket in Tarbes several years ago when I first moved to the Haute Pyrenees...I didn't know who he was then; but he stood out as I bet Bill can confirm...The spirituality of the man is very evident when you see him in real life.
Rimbaud
heyokah
13th July 2010, 08:03
Probably a bit late too, but years ago I saw an interview on the Dutch television with Marcel Messing taken in his house in the Pyrenees .
This man really "got" me.
I was so glad to see him here with Bill !! :):)
Operator
13th July 2010, 08:49
No agenda, genuine love for all expressed from the heart. What else do we need?
Hi Chris,
I sometimes try to tell people that there is no good and bad ... just a bunch of people each with their own agenda. Some of the agendas
appear to be benevolent for the community and some of them are straight out malicious.
I try not to have an agenda anymore ... it will make you manipulative. But did you know you can be blamed for not having an agenda ?
They will tell you that you are passive and that you don't contribute. If you do not acquire and gather stuff they will tell you that you are not
successful and probably suffer from a depression or so ... In the mean time they seem to forget they also get free help themselves and then
think of it as being just normal ...
If you don't have an agenda you're not asserting force on them ... people are not used to that, they miss it like a training boxer needs a
sparring partner. Having said that ... it looks like a chicken and egg problem. When there would be no agendas there would be no
learning/training for the souls coming here to do so. Or would it simply mean we're all ready then ?
Cheers, Op.
greybeard
13th July 2010, 09:20
Hi Chris,
I sometimes try to tell people that there is no good and bad ... just a bunch of people each with their own agenda. Some of the agendas
appear to be benevolent for the community and some of them are straight out malicious.
I try not to have an agenda anymore ... it will make you manipulative. But did you know you can be blamed for not having an agenda ?
They will tell you that you are passive and that you don't contribute. If you do not acquire and gather stuff they will tell you that you are not
successful and probably suffer from a depression or so ... In the mean time they seem to forget they also get free help themselves and then
think of it as being just normal ...
If you don't have an agenda you're not asserting force on them ... people are not used to that, they miss it like a training boxer needs a
sparring partner. Having said that ... it looks like a chicken and egg problem. When there would be no agendas there would be no
learning/training for the souls coming here to do so. Or would it simply mean we're all ready then ?
Cheers, Op.
Ho rah you got it Operator.
Not easy but simple.
Yes you are correct in every way.
Congratulations.
People want to change the world, if everyone left well alone it would all come right without our interference.
That does not mean you do nothing, it is well neigh impossible to do nothing.
Your higher Self will guide you to take right action.
Congratulation Observer
Regards Chris
John Parslow
14th July 2010, 15:45
Hello Bill
Just got round to viewing the excellent interview with Marcel Messing what a lovely fascinating human being, do you have plans for any future discussions with him?
Once again top marks. JP
Bill Ryan
14th July 2010, 15:51
Hello Bill
Just got round to viewing the excellent interview with Marcel Messing what a lovely fascinating human being, do you have plans for any future discussions with him?
Once again top marks. JP
Thanks, John - I didn't have to do anything apart from turn the camera on :)
Marcel is a totally remarkable man. I'm privileged to know him. We're in good touch, and I'll certainly do another one sometime.
Loren
14th July 2010, 18:29
Everything you need to know in one interview. When the time is right the teacher appears to you. Thanks Bill.Thanks Marcell
greybeard
14th July 2010, 19:05
Everything you need to know in one interview. When the time is right the teacher appears to you. Thanks Bill.Thanks Marcell
Agree with you Loren
Truth has an authority all of its own.
Thanks again Bill and as you said there was no need for you to ask questions of Marcel it just flowed though you prompting him at the end brought the interview to a magnificent close.
Thanks again we are indebted to you..
Chris
sojorner
24th July 2010, 22:24
I'm not sure if this has been posted already...I found an interview where Marcel Messing is talking with David Icke....I found it such a treat to watch two wonderfully insightful men coming together..
They are both so different and yet you're left with a sense that it's our common goals that unite us all.
http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=21785
Soj
Bill Ryan
24th July 2010, 23:06
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That is completely fabulous - thank you so much. I never even knew they'd met!
And I've never seen the interview. I'll watch it right now.
Moemers
24th July 2010, 23:16
Really excited to watch this tonight after dinner.
Thank you!
greybeard
25th July 2010, 22:36
I'm not sure if this has been posted already...I found an interview where Marcel Messing is talking with David Icke....I found it such a treat to watch two wonderfully insightful men coming together..
They are both so different and yet you're left with a sense that it's our common goals that unite us all.
http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=21785
Soj
Sonjer a truly amazing David Icke Marcel Messing interview.
I hope many watch.
It just cuts through everything to get to simple truth.
Thank you so much.
Chris
Arpheus
26th July 2010, 03:28
I still think that the marcel messing interview with bill ryan was the best he has ever done on avalon to this very day,marcel messing made me cry like a little baby thats how much that man touched my soul when i listened to him talking,he was so humble simple and direct to the point,anyone with a heart must felt this way.
Wookie
26th July 2010, 03:49
Non-Violent Non-Cooperation I love it, makes me think of Ganhdi.
Peaceful Journeys. Wookie
Arpheus
26th July 2010, 04:08
That was a good one tks for posting it!!
heyokah
26th July 2010, 11:33
I offer you a YouTube version of an interview with Marcel made in February this year.
It is part 1 of a Playlist of 11, so it requires a little effort to watch the other 10. LOL
But, alá.....to see Marcel ;)
Swami posted it in another version before, as a reply on Bill's block about Marcel Messing in March .
Maybe some of you missed it.
Iwys0gDTqrI
Scott
26th July 2010, 11:54
Thanks for posting this I had never seen it :)
quote " If it vibrates its illusion"
Also seen a new video on David Icke's site under Headlines.
Davids got fire in him when he see's injustice that's for sure.
Warning graphic police violence be aware and forward to 3:20 to just hear Davids message.
jNoduSUwN8Y
Moemers
26th July 2010, 18:47
Loved this interview.
Man. Just seeing these 2 people together trying to get this message out is so comforting.
Merlin
26th July 2010, 18:58
Great find sojorner....Thanks for the post
:madgrin:
K626
26th July 2010, 19:58
David says some really important things in that conversation with regard to silence and infinity possibility. I was saying to a friend of mine they other day how David is really coming to his peak now and has certainly IMO gone up a couple of gears. His connection to the universal is becoming clearer by the day.
K
John Parslow
26th July 2010, 20:39
Hello sojorner
Thank you so much for the link to this brilliant interview with David and Marcel. A meeting of two beautiful souls, I had not realized they had even met so a fantastic discovery. Love and peace. JP
watchZEITGEISTnow
26th July 2010, 22:28
Ahh Icky - he just never gets dull. Timeless being he is indeed!
Thanks for posting :)
Wood
4th August 2010, 21:31
Wow, this interview is exceptional. Thank you sojorner!
MariaDine
4th August 2010, 22:44
Loved the interview ...specialy the end !!!..... 10 last minutes of your Life ...what maters? ....................................... LOL :)
In the end all comes down to this (keep it simple, stupid!) ...Pay attention to what is around you !
MariaDine
4th August 2010, 23:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEnrmbc_-6w&feature=related
Dale
10th August 2010, 02:21
I watched this interview for a second time the other day. Absolutely profound. Marcel Messing is one of the most sincere, knowledgeable teachers we, as a planet, have. He is truly a teacher in the deepest, most spiritual sense.
hyundisonata
9th October 2010, 18:51
Really nice guy and someone you could be proud to call a friend. Ok I have my own version of events direct from the big guy in the sky. So I do not agree with all he said. But that does not matter to me as he is genuine in his promoting love peace and harmony on this violent world and this would be a better world to live on if more had his heart.
wolf_rt
25th January 2011, 14:00
This is by far the most important information i have ever seen on the internet.
Jendayi
25th January 2011, 14:21
Thank you so much bill for bringing this great dutch teacher to the attention of the avalon community..
i have had the privilige to meet with marcel on several occasions.. which gave me the possibility to look into his eyes.. i saw genuine compassion and a sincere wish to further the evolution of mankind.. just my 2 cents..
namaste en keep up the amazing work you are doing!
We say atoms are bound by
Weak Attractions.
Why not admit the Truth:
The Universe is held together by Love.....
lishka
25th January 2011, 16:05
very much appreciate this video, thanks for it. Very wise enlightened man.
greybeard
25th January 2011, 18:45
Truth is eternal
Some speak about it.
Some are it.
Marcel is one of the few enlightened souls on the planet at the moment
Consciousness is rising, it is inevitable that more who follow the path pointed to by such Master will be Masters.
There is a radiance, an essence, a vibration, a frequency, that flows out from Marcel Messing, all who enter into the vibration / auric field of an elightened one has their own essence uplifted.
Even watching a video of one such as Marcel is "uplifting" in the true sense of that word.
It diminishes ego.
Chris
Namaste
OneLittleFrog
25th January 2011, 20:39
Apologies if this has already been posted, but last spring I came across a transcript of another, longer Marcel Messing interview. I printed it off then (all 20 pages!) and I read it from time to time; it always makes me feel stronger and comforted.
The DVD is called "Will We Wake Up" and I'm not sure who translated and transcribed it - whoever it was, my gratitude. I've linked it and copied a very small segment below....PLEASE READ. :)
http://www.wijwordenwakker.org/content.asp?m=M101&s=M112&ss=M93&l=EN
...the heirs of the Annunaki have found this out. They are eminently aware that if man is allowed to develop into a spiritual being of Love, he will rise above the Fallen Guardians.
I: Then the Guardians will have lost their power.
MM: Then they will have lost their power. So what is to be done? You can use a war on terror as a front behind which you can swiftly carry out your real agenda. It is now 2006. Let us assume - contrary to what our contemporaries often think - the Maya were not deranged, that the other seers were not deranged either, that there is some truth to the advent of this momentous change, and therefore there are only six years that remain for the Guardians to take action...
How can this change be cut short? Take the capstone of their plan, i.e., of the pyramid. The pyramid with the All-Seeing Eye surmounting it is the one you also find on the dollar bill. Put a magnifying glass to it: do you find it pleasant to look at? That eye is the emblem of what you, the potential prey, are going to stop.
:horn:
heyokah
25th January 2011, 20:49
Here is another video (playlist) in which Marcel Messing speaks to Freedom Central about the state of the planet, the dark agenda, human manipulation by ET's and the awakening.
Nr 1 of 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwys0gDTqrI
Caren
25th January 2011, 20:57
Wow! Very interesting find, thanks One Little Frog. :)
"If man is allowed to develop into a spiritual being of love, he will rise above the Fallen Guardians."
"Then the Guardians will have lost their power." Marcel Messing
Jetsam
25th January 2011, 21:22
Thank you for this!
I didn't know he was from the Netherlands, and he gives talks in Belgium too... I'm going to one of his lectures soon.
I almost can't believe it actually, I've been looking for someone like him for so long (in the neighborhood and not dead...), and suddenly there he is!
sevenarrow
27th January 2011, 09:01
Excellent. Thank you for your tireless commitment to your work. I have been starving to hear dialogue along Marcel's lines of perception. In the majority of family / social contacts, I must hold back entire veins of subjects. I was delightfully surprised with Marcel. He seems to have a way of experiencing as he speaks. And visualizing as he speaks.
I was first educated by Mr. Holland in a history class at Rhodes High School in Cleveland, Ohio to question and not accept at face value. He used the Readers Digest as an example because of the manipulation of people through ideas. That was 1958. And I remember thinking after 9/11 (I hesitate to put this in writing) that my beloved country had something to do with the event. The more I thought about it, the more likely it became.
I find I don't have fear about the upcoming developments. Rather a caring, and a great curiosity. I truly care about this planet and the forms of life upon it. But I cannot afford to grieve in depth.
I am most happy to be a part of this unique group. Thank you!
Norsec
27th January 2011, 09:46
Thank you so much for this interview.
I've seen it yesterday and after watching it i needed to take a rest for me, my life, my world.
At the moment it's going so fast in my life... i can't thank you enough for your work.
Peace and love to all of you.
Mike
30th January 2011, 03:07
"I thought either the people around me were carzy, or i was crazy. I decided that I wasn't crazy." Marcel Messing.
Beautiful comment. Great man. Great interview.
DevilPigeon
3rd February 2011, 21:47
i concur with others, it's probably the best interview i've seen.
DevilPigeon
3rd February 2011, 21:53
i'm gonna watch this shortly, the marcel/bill interview was superb, and i also resonate with a lot that david icke says.... should be a treat!
str8thinker
3rd February 2011, 22:34
I was unsuccessful in locating this video from the link in the first post in this thread. A search on the Dutch website for "Icke" or "Messing" each returned nothing.
However, I did find something similar on YouTube:
Marcel Messing interviews David Icke. Recorded on September 17th, 2009 in Amsterdam, Holland.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hatt5oMUrPk
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ2AWOkKPow
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6sTAbna6P0
Would someone who has seen the original please check these links and let me know if this is the same interview? Thanks.
Also, if the original video is still available to view or download as a single file, can anyone post a link to it? Thanks again.
DevilPigeon
3rd February 2011, 23:05
I was unsuccessful in locating this video from the link in the first post in this thread. A search on the Dutch website for "Icke" or "Messing" each returned nothing.
However, I did find something similar on YouTube:
Marcel Messing interviews David Icke. Recorded on September 17th, 2009 in Amsterdam, Holland.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hatt5oMUrPk
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ2AWOkKPow
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6sTAbna6P0
Would someone who has seen the original please check these links and let me know if this is the same interview? Thanks.
Also, if the original video is still available to view or download as a single file, can anyone post a link to it? Thanks again.
hi
i also noted the original link no longer worked, a quick google soon found an alternative though! it's youtube, and the links you gave are the 3 videos, this is a link to the playlist of those 3:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1537B0256E27BC3C
all the best, happy viewing!
1159
3rd February 2011, 23:21
Had listened to it when it came up, but didn't save the audio. wanted to re-listen but cant download it (fully). the d/l always breakes at 1-5 mb. any pointers anyone? PM me if you still need the audio mp3. I'll tranfer it to you https://www.transferbigfiles.com/
greybeard
3rd February 2011, 23:42
Here is another video (playlist) in which Marcel Messing speaks to Freedom Central about the state of the planet, the dark agenda, human manipulation by ET's and the awakening.
Nr 1 of 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwys0gDTqrI
This is great I have it on my hard drive and listen regularly.
It covers virtually very subject that I have an interest in.
There are only two videos that I am inclined to recommend with great enthusiasm
This one and Nassim Haramien "Sacred geometry" its on U tube.
The videos work together well.
chris
DevilPigeon
3rd February 2011, 23:50
greybeard
i watched the naseem haramein video from a previous post you posted, have to agree with you, well worth watching.
:thumb:
wolf_rt
7th February 2011, 15:17
if the original video is gone perhaps somebody can re-upload it? this is far more worth wile than the Charles shenanigans.
greybeard
7th February 2011, 18:58
if the original video is gone perhaps somebody can re-upload it? this is far more worth wile than the Charles shenanigans.
Page one Chris
steven69
8th February 2011, 22:05
Hello Bill
Just got round to viewing the excellent interview with Marcel Messing what a lovely fascinating human being, do you have plans for any future discussions with him?
Once again top marks. JP
Thanks, John - I didn't have to do anything apart from turn the camera on :)
Marcel is a totally remarkable man. I'm privileged to know him. We're in good touch, and I'll certainly do another one sometime.
Thank you Bill - that was an amazingly beautiful interview. It encapsulated everything that was truly important and in such a simple and clear manner. I would say that this is a must see video and one that I will probably come back to help me on my journey - thank you Marcel.
Any follow up interview would surely be another delight for us all.
Benign
11th February 2011, 00:45
Messing is a pleasant humanist and very enjoyable to listen to.Very likeable person although a bit too idealistic.
Journeyon
7th February 2013, 23:59
This interview seems to be so timely and of such importance. Marcel shares his message of how he believes we are at a critical time, where our actions must match our spiritual development.
IMO this is a critical video for today. I plan on sharing it with many friends and family to hopefully open their minds to reality.
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This interview was shared here in another thread on another topic but I couldn't find it today. I am so grateful for the wealth of information I find here on a daily basis.
In Peace,
Journeyon
Earth Angel
4th March 2013, 18:15
here is 15 minutes of Lilou discussing abundance......very inspiring , discussing her time 2 years ago when she lost her job and only had 10 euro in her bank account......she has a great message here
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greybeard
4th March 2013, 18:42
This interview seems to be so timely and of such importance. Marcel shares his message of how he believes we are at a critical time, where our actions must match our spiritual development.
IMO this is a critical video for today. I plan on sharing it with many friends and family to hopefully open their minds to reality.
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This interview was shared here in another thread on another topic but I couldn't find it today. I am so grateful for the wealth of information I find here on a daily basis.
In Peace,
Journeyon
It was posted here journeyon last September.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=561832&viewfull=1#post561832
I am very pleased you posted it here and get a lot from it as I do.
regards Chris
Wide-Eyed
12th February 2016, 07:19
Hi, All:
This thread is an opportunity to discuss the recent interview with Marcel Messing:
http://projectavalon.net/marcel_messing.html
This is a wonderful man, and a wonderful interview. Quite a few people have said that this is one of the best they've yet seen. One friend blew me away by writing: The interview with Marcel Messing is the greatest gift you have given to us. It is so beautiful, it brought tears to my eyes.
High praise! But it was Marcel's gift, not mine. Do find time for this, if you've not yet done so.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8irRLv2Vz1A
8irRLv2Vz1A
What can I say.... I've done quite a bit of wandering through PA , glad I landed here. BUMP!
:bump:
Bill Ryan
12th February 2016, 13:48
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Thanks for the bump!
I've had several people tell me that they thought Marcel Messing was one of my very best interviewees. (Indeed, I think he is.)
It'd be a misuse of the word to say it was one of my best interviews! I asked something like 6 questions in an hour and a half, including introducing him at the start. All Marcel needed was the space to talk. He picks up the ball and runs with it, a very long way indeed.
Many interviewers and radio show hosts out there don't yet understand what their principal job is — simply to get themselves out of the way. :)
DbDraad
12th February 2016, 15:49
I'll read the thread and watch the video later, just wanted to say, when I read his wiki page, i did not have to use translate. Being South African, Dutch is quite understandable. And adds to my interest.
Delight
11th October 2021, 04:02
Just came across this interview....I feel his love of books too. He mentions the difference in the Eastern and Western mind. Very great man IMO.....
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Artemesia
20th January 2025, 00:08
If you are interested in Marcel Messing, this film The Wisdom Keepers is well worth the subscription to see.
Here is the free trailer:
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Mike Gorman
20th January 2025, 05:26
This is an interesting review of Bill's old interview, I see that Cliff High is declaring the return of the Cathairs, the Gnosis of original Christian love and insight, Cliff says this time we won't fail them and stand by when they are killed off - the time has arrived for the sleeping warriors to fulfil their destiny. These really are interesting times, I feel it more strongly than ever. The Universe is unfolding more visibly.
Delight
21st January 2025, 03:31
If you are interested in Marcel Messing, this film The Wisdom Keepers is well worth the subscription to see.
Here is the free trailer:
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Thank you for bringing this to my attention!
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Artemesia
21st January 2025, 03:45
Thank you for bringing this to my attention!
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I am so glad to see there is a free to view version now! Thanks for finding this!
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