Tycoon sentenced to death in real estate funding scam

[Carmody]

A Note to wall street, Goldman Sachs, and all banks in the the Federal Reserve system, and their rotating chairmanship of the Treasury board.

time to begin sweating:

Tycoon sentenced to death in real estate funding scam


A real estate tycoon in Lishui, Zhejiang Province, has received a death sentence for illegally raising 5.5 billion yuan ($800 million) from the public, reported the Procuratorial Daily on Monday.

Ji Wenhua, the president and legal representative of Lishui Yintai Real Estate Investment Company, was found guilty of fraudulent fund raising and embezzlement.

Five other shareholders and senior managers from the Lishui Yintai group received death sentences with reprieves and imprisonment.

Lishui Yintai Real Estate Investment Company Group was founded in 2002. It has several subsidiaries and branches in Zhejiang, Jiangxi and Hunan provinces.

From 2003 to 2008, Lishui Yintai real estate group concealed its continual losses while using advertising to convince the public it was profiting.

In order to continue operating, Ji and his accomplices raised funds from investors in Zhejiang and Hunan, knowing the company was unable to fulfill the contract.

As of 2008, when Ji and his accomplices were arrested, Lishui Yintai had raised 5.5 billion yuan from the public through fraudulent methods, the court said.

The intensified national macro policies in 2008 were a major cause of the capital chain break of the group, said Zheshang magazine.

During the depression of the real estate industry in 2008, moneylenders began calling their loans from the real estate industry.

Lishui Yintai group faced the same difficulty.

In addition, the procuratorate found Ji and the senior managers accused led a lavish life relying on the money they raised from stockholders. It was submitted as evidence of illegal fundraising with purpose, said Zheshang magazine.

Zhou Lei, a lawyer from Beijing-based Jianhao Law Firm, said it is illegal to raise funds from the public without the legally prescribed conditions and procedures.

"The real estate industry requires a large amount of money to ensure construction," Zhou said. "When the debt is due, they are inclined to raise funds to avoid going into receivership."

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/682998/Tycoon-sentenced-to-death-in-real-estate-funding-scam.aspx

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I'm not interested in such 'endings'.

Others might feel differently.

I have the audacity to remember what happens between lives, when you die, and my two prior lives.

So..... I don't wish you death. Things will be bad enough.


Let me put it to you this way. One good way to have a closed system with a control structure..where the system is closed and effective, but workable..is one where that control structure..is left to feel it is immune to the external systems. Therefore the system remains true to it's intent.

Since the gravitation of the type required for the control structure will be a natural condition, the ones who try to blind others, will be blinded themselves. A simple case of human body and incarnation effects and realities.The means begets the ends, etc, etc. Ego does it's job to perfection. And the game is sealed and ensues. The foolishness comes in the form of expectation of immunity.

I am not involved, I am only aware of that aspect.

There is still time.

[58andfixed]

One thing I've dwelt upon a lot, is an appropriate sentence for the breach of public trust.

I believe the issue transcends that of treason.

I think a death sentence is more appropriate for these types of crime, because it seems to me that fines are simply a 'cost of doing business.'

There is no incentive to do the moral or ethical choice.

I'd be curious for thoughts on such a timely and topical issue.

- 58

[JoshERTW]

Banish 'em all to an island somewhere - preferably off the coast of Alaska

I also don't wish death upon these people, but anyone who is actively working against the free will and wellbeing of the majority of the people of the world for personal gain, should be removed from the systems and people they are exploiting and left to their own devices in a location where their behaviour cannot directly impact the physical reality of any other individual - except maybe for other individuals with the same behavioural patterns/disorders.

[modwiz]

Banish 'em all to an island somewhere - preferably off the coast of Alaska

I also don't wish death upon these people, but anyone who is actively working against the free will and wellbeing of the majority of the people of the world for personal gain, should be removed from the systems and people they are exploiting and left to their own devices in a location where their behaviour cannot directly impact the physical reality of any other individual - except maybe for other individuals with the same behavioural patterns/disorders.

Although against the death penalty personally, I am left with a feeling of what do you do with a tick you pull off your dog? Put it in some out of the way place and give it some blood for sustenance?:nono: These people are not humans. They are human bodies with some kind of parasitic virus-like consciousness in them, (Archons?). Something basically identical to an invasion of the body snatchers scenario. I don't know if the Chinese have figured it out, but they are acting as if they have.

The above is an honest assessment and not some hyperbolic rant.

[Calz]

Send em to Gitmo for a hopeless life of mind control and waterboarding ...

[modwiz]

Send em to Gitmo for a hopeless life of mind control and waterboarding ...

Especially if they can ever be found having supported either. That would be karma. Then we are faced/confronted with extending grace. The Chinese are sparing themselves that spiritual hurdle.

"Hmm, maybe we shouldn't have put a bullet into the back of his head."
"Yeah. Well, too late. Tea anyone?"

[Carmody]

"Yeah. Well, too late. Tea anyone?"

I nearly choked on my food, there.

[aranuk]

Life sentences in prison without any chance of parole.

Stan

[conk]

Heck, even the rock and roll rag, Rolling Stone, laid out enough juicy info for 10 grand juries, but the bankers are still not in jail. It seems they can do absolutely anything they desire and no one calls them on it. I don't see any death sentences for the swindlers any time soon....or ever.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Heck, even the rock and roll rag, Rolling Stone, laid out enough juicy info for 10 grand juries, but the bankers are still not in jail. It seems they can do absolutely anything they desire and no one calls them on it. I don't see any death sentences for the swindlers any time soon....or ever.

True, but the Fat Lady hasn't sung yet..... At some point, they're going to have to begin to sweat. One scenario is that the Aryan Brotherhood, Mexican Mafia and other prison gangs (which they promoted thru their prison system) might just surprise them and come together under a common cause. These gangs are now highly organized both inside and outside the prison system, and while their focus has been on drug wars, etc., with each other, they could join forces against the elite. It is said that these guys are brutal and well equipped with guns.

While I'm a pacifist, and would much prefer to see the future resolve in a more pleasant fashion, the PTB seem not to understand that we all have limits and are refusing to give even the smallest of crumbs to the 99%. As much as I hate to admit it, there is a part of me that would enjoy watching them slowly sink into the quick sand that they've created.

[onawah]

Do you have a solution, Carmody?

While Ben Fulford is highly vilified even on PA as a disinfo agent, I think what continues to keep people interested is the scenario he presents, whether real or fictional, of an order of Ninjas of a sort, who, though they deal in murder and crime on one level, on another, like Robin Hood and his Merry Men, can lay claim to be on the side of Justice and will actually take action to restore power to the people.
This has been a recurring theme in our fiction, if not actually in history, for a long time.
Given the scenario Carmody has presented us with, perhaps the Chinese as a people are still so unjaded (or perhaps naive, as the case may be) as to believe that good vs evil is really this simple, and so there is fertile ground there still for this type of action to actually be carried out.
And perhaps at this juncture in human history, we are being presented with that simple a solution, or for awhile at least, until more balance has been achieved.
But then, of course, there may be another future dilemma, which has to do with how humanitarian are these "Ninjas" in reality, and how corrupt might they become if they should truly overcome TPTW?
Would they be able to relinquish their power to the people?
These are age-old questions.
The real question is, how does the transfer of power to a humanitarian kind of government actually come about when a planet is going from 3D to 4D?
This would be something I would like to see discussed in channeled information, assuming there are any beings out there who can tell us about how it was done on other worlds.
Or any beings in actual bodies who can tell us, which would be fine too.

[Lord Sidious]

Heck, even the rock and roll rag, Rolling Stone, laid out enough juicy info for 10 grand juries, but the bankers are still not in jail. It seems they can do absolutely anything they desire and no one calls them on it. I don't see any death sentences for the swindlers any time soon....or ever.

True, but the Fat Lady hasn't sung yet..... At some point, they're going to have to begin to sweat. One scenario is that the Aryan Brotherhood, Mexican Mafia and other prison gangs (which they promoted thru their prison system) might just surprise them and come together under a common cause. These gangs are now highly organized both inside and outside the prison system, and while their focus has been on drug wars, etc., with each other, they could join forces against the elite. It is said that these guys are brutal and well equipped with guns.

While I'm a pacifist, and would much prefer to see the future resolve in a more pleasant fashion, the PTB seem not to understand that we all have limits and are refusing to give even the smallest of crumbs to the 99%. As much as I hate to admit it, there is a part of me that would enjoy watching them slowly sink into the quick sand that they've created.

The Aryan Brotherhood will never co operate with what they see as ''muds'', especially Mexicans.
I know people who had connections to them and they are not just radical, they are RADICAL.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Heck, even the rock and roll rag, Rolling Stone, laid out enough juicy info for 10 grand juries, but the bankers are still not in jail. It seems they can do absolutely anything they desire and no one calls them on it. I don't see any death sentences for the swindlers any time soon....or ever.

True, but the Fat Lady hasn't sung yet..... At some point, they're going to have to begin to sweat. One scenario is that the Aryan Brotherhood, Mexican Mafia and other prison gangs (which they promoted thru their prison system) might just surprise them and come together under a common cause. These gangs are now highly organized both inside and outside the prison system, and while their focus has been on drug wars, etc., with each other, they could join forces against the elite. It is said that these guys are brutal and well equipped with guns.

While I'm a pacifist, and would much prefer to see the future resolve in a more pleasant fashion, the PTB seem not to understand that we all have limits and are refusing to give even the smallest of crumbs to the 99%. As much as I hate to admit it, there is a part of me that would enjoy watching them slowly sink into the quick sand that they've created.

The Aryan Brotherhood will never co operate with what they see as ''muds'', especially Mexicans.
I know people who had connections to them and they are not just radical, they are RADICAL.

Perhaps you're right, BUT there are many other prison gangs (I'm told at least six), then there are the Hell's Angels and the Michigan Militia, etc. I was just using the AB and the MM as examples. Any of the above, including all the VETS that have come home disillusioned that could join forces if and when this really goes South.

[Lord Sidious]

I think the 1% clubs will be looking for revenge on those who have spent years harassing them.
When it all goes down, there is going to be a lot of chaos.
Just as ''they'' want.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I think the 1% clubs will be looking for revenge on those who have spent years harassing them.
When it all goes down, there is going to be a lot of chaos.
Just as ''they'' want.

I hear you and I oscillate on that point myself. One the one hand I think: violence is what they want, then they can use force and trample us. On the other hand: Should we just BOHICA (bend over here it comes again). I was raised by parents who kept saying "you can't fight City Hall". In other words, take it and swollow it. And by school teachers who when kids were bullied, said: Man up, you have to learn to take it. The teachers never said to the bullyies: This isn't right, you will have consequences for your behavior. So now we have this world where the bullies rule and we have learned to accept it.

Again, I consider myself a Pacifist who realizes that if wars ended wars we would have been living in peace a long time ago. I also would like to see this all resolved by evolution not revolution. But we must learn to stand up and that's very difficult for most of us, because we are afraid and yes, as in the Middle East, lives will be lost and people will be injured and yet these brave people continue to stand up. Would I have the courage if and when the time comes? I don't know and I keep hoping, praying and believing that I'll never have to be tested.

[Lord Sidious]

I hear you.
I am lucky, I have been tested on numerous occasions and passed easily every time.
I go ice cold in emergencies and everything slows down and I can see the solution every time.
But then again, I am only here to be an actor, so it should be easier for me.
I am a pacifist, but only until someone comes and tries to kick me.
Then the Dane in me kicks in and in conjunction with the Celt, it's party time.
I really, really despise bullies, but at the same time, I realise they only do it because of low self esteem.
My stepfather is a huge reason I am like I am.
Even in his sixties, security guards/bouncers/police were very cautious about dealing with him physically.
And just as well, he taught me many different ways to both protect oneself and to kill, all hand to hand.
So I was raised to not accept bullies and to not run away.
I would probably fare well in a 1% club myself.
Except I don't like to be controlled by ''rules'' and I don't like to associate with potential bad influences.

[Flash]

The Alaskan or Canadian Gulag, the gulag for them. I have been in contact two years in a row with extremely rich kids, in their late teens early twenties, and at least half to two third are kind of without conscience (I still cannot come to term with saying really without conscience). Bright, bubbly, manipulative in the extreme and without guilt.

So, where is the hope. The gulag may be....

[mosquito]

The whole issue of punishment is nowhere near as clear-cut as some people believe, I've gone round in circles with it many a time in my life.
Right now I'm not against the death penalty per se, but I thinik it can only work in a society where the criminal justice system is more than a glorified debate between a couple of bods in wigs. I also believe that if we have it, it needs to be carried out effectively and humanely (unlike the electric chair !)

I have no knowledge of the system here, so can't comment. The only cases I'm aware of where someone has been sentenced to death, other than this one are - a man and woman found guilty of trafficking underage girls; a student who ran over a mother and baby then got out of his car and shot them. (Obviously there are more than this, but I don't watch TV and don't read a paper, so I'm not aware of any others for now). And I have to say that in all 3 of these cases I don't feel particularly inclined to shed tears for the executee.

[58andfixed]

Thanks for your input MaripoSafe.

This is my essential point. The idea of a death penalty is not well formulated nor discussed, and not even as well discoursed as 'dignity in death.'

http://www.deathwithdignity.org/

http://www.deathwithdignity.org/media/images/photostripe.gif

What personal emotions will tolerate any system to do seems to be too low a standard to compare the trafficking of young girls against the trust extended by a nation for those in authority.

It seems that mortal death is too delicate a topic for too many for a reasonable discourse for most forums at this point in time.

A seed of an idea for future generations to develop, for surely the process of a public execution needs a clear guide for the purpose of it -- if indeed there is any value at all.

Personally, I have compassion and care for even those that are processed by a justice system and executed, however this process is fundamentally quite different than that of assassination.

And the essence for this thread, is that of 'rights granted corporations' of "Legal Fiction" are not balanced by consequences extended by the justice system that are not higher than a monetary cost, and some individuals incur prison time, while "People who are Persons' can be extended judgments of order, prison time, fines and execution.

There is an apparent imbalance.

However in different nations, such as China, their standards indicate a different perspective than here in North America.

Where is there an opportunity to insert motivation for potential future offenders ?

- 58





The whole issue of punishment is nowhere near as clear-cut as some people believe, I've gone round in circles with it many a time in my life.
Right now I'm not against the death penalty per se, but I think it can only work in a society where the criminal justice system is more than a glorified debate between a couple of bods in wigs. I also believe that if we have it, it needs to be carried out effectively and humanely (unlike the electric chair !)

The only cases I'm aware of where someone has been sentenced to death, other than this one are - a man and woman found guilty of trafficking underage girls; a student who ran over a mother and baby then got out of his car and shot them.

And I have to say that in all 3 of these cases I don't feel particularly inclined to shed tears for the executee.

[Carmody]

I don't really have an answer for any of this, myself. I can only say that I recognize that things are coming to a head.

I know how the animal inside would like to respond but that has nothing to do with ending the pendulum swing as opposed to creating a more favorable situation that eventually...perpetuates it.

this recent news of a new lab created super(bird) flu, this news being made public .....does make one wonder. Added in is that it mutated in 5 generations to being airborne. I mention this as it seems to be moving along at a decent speed.

http://rt.com/news/bird-flu-killer-strain-119/

I said what I said... as many of the people in the banking system that support the top if this thing ---will have no where to hide. And they all have to die, eventually.

If those who are into satanism are thinking that what they are involved in will save them, well, I think they have may not have complete information about what they have stepped into. (but then again, who does) (choices) I think they missed the essential point of how that 'area' of human complex existence operates. That there is literally no place, no dimension, no time, ......to hide. It simply cannot be done, IMO and IME. I think can say that. And that they must make their own decisions. And that it is best done while in the flesh... More seriously -it cannot be stated.

[music]

I don't really have an answer for any of this, myself. I can only say that I recognize that things are coming to a head.

I know how the animal inside would like to respond but that has nothing to do with ending the pendulum swing as opposed to creating a more favorable situation that eventually...perpetuates it.

this recent news of a new lab created super(bird) flu, this news being made public .....does make one wonder. Added in is that it mutated in 5 generations to being airborne. I mention this as it seems to be moving along at a decent speed.

http://rt.com/news/bird-flu-killer-strain-119/

I said what I said... as many of the people in the banking system that support the top if this thing ---will have no where to hide. And they all have to die, eventually.

If those who are into satanism are thinking that what they are involved in will save them, well, I think they have may not have complete information about what they have stepped into. (but then again, who does) (choices) I think they missed the essential point of how that 'area' of human complex existence operates. That there is literally no place, no dimension, no time, ......to hide. It simply cannot be done, IMO and IME. I think can say that. And that they must make their own decisions. And that it is best done while in the flesh... More seriously -it cannot be stated.

We might reasonably argue that most recent killer virus scares have been man-made and/or overhyped to get us to take the vaccine. Perfect delivery vector for all sorts of nonsense we really don't want messing with our insides. If the virus is that deadly, the hoi polloi will only receive a placebo jab with added extras, while the "elites" get (or already are) protected. I'll take my chances with the virus thank you very much.

Back to topic, the force of change in the world is Love, but that doesn't mean that things won't get messy while we achieve equalibrium.