Getting angry at the actions of people.....

[truth4me]

I believe we as awaken people here on the Avalon Forum have a certain "obligation" to our siblings who are still asleep. We all are truly brothers and sisters IMHO on planet earth.

The question is this. How much lead way do you give a non awake person? I've raised 2 kids and now have 3 grand kids and believe me after roughly 24 years and counting of raising kids I've learned a thing or two.

I work with the public daily and it's something I choose to do. I understand that kids can get on your nerves BUT one thing that really makes me mad is to see a person abused a child mentally or physically. I do understand discipline of a child but today when I seen this women call her grandchild stupid and was going "to beat him down" I almost went off on her! I was biting my bottom lip. I kept my cool and tried to understand that the non awaken are caught up in it <3-D world> she didn't realize she was IMO causing more harm then good.


I feel for kids,I truly do. My first week on the job I seen a guy slap his son upside the head for bringing a can of coke to my counter yet this guy tells his son he "can't afford it" but turns around and ask me to sell him 3 lottery tickets.


I've made my mind up and be damned my job ,the next time I see something like a kid being slapped or told they are going to get a beat down I'm getting involved. Greedy ,self centered "the world has done them wrong" people. WAKE UP !


excuse my rant but the lead way when it comes to kids is right at the end....:mad2:

[Kristo]

I understand the frustration T4M. I do think how we handle the situation can have the desired affect. The initial knee-jerk reaction may be as hostile as what we are witnessing, but temperence may be more effective. An example: I once had a patient who was very 'harsh' with her daughter. The medical staff warned me of this before I took her back into my room. I 'read' the child and intuitively knew she was low in energy due to the way she was treated, but a very special child. That is what the mother was perceiving as being 'defiant'.... the child knew better than the mother. The mother was my patient, and due to the radiation during the exam, the child was in a neighboring room to protect her. During the exam I asked for Higher Guidance to interject some lasting impression upon the mother... What came through was powerful (I was a conduit...the words flowed from me) "Your daughter is beautiful." Mother"Yeah, 6 going on 24! What a stubborn handful!" Me "It's a gift she's so insightful and knows herself.... (long pause) Do you believe children choose their parents? I do.... Sometimes our children are the wise ones, and are here to teach us. Age can be irrelevent." Her tears flowed. I let them. I think she needed to go through the thoughts and whatever guilt she was experiencing. After her exam, she collected her daughter with a warm, patient hug.
Who knows if it lasted.... but the seed had been planted.
Blessings :)
Kris

[truth4me]

I understand the frustration T4M. I do think how we handle the situation can have the desired affect. The initial knee-jerk reaction may be as hostile as what we are witnessing, but temperence may be more effective. An example: I once had a patient who was very 'harsh' with her daughter. The medical staff warned me of this before I took her back into my room. I 'read' the child and intuitively knew she was low in energy due to the way she was treated, but a very special child. That is what the mother was perceiving as being 'defiant'.... the child knew better than the mother. The mother was my patient, and due to the radiation during the exam, the child was in a neighboring room to protect her. During the exam I asked for Higher Guidance to interject some lasting impression upon the mother... What came through was powerful (I was a conduit...the words flowed from me) "Your daughter is beautiful." Mother"Yeah, 6 going on 24! What a stubborn handful!" Me "It's a gift she's so insightful and knows herself.... (long pause) Do you believe children choose their parents? I do.... Sometimes our children are the wise ones, and are here to teach us. Age can be irrelevent." Her tears flowed. I let them. I think she needed to go through the thoughts and whatever guilt she was experiencing. After her exam, she collected her daughter with a warm, patient hug.
Who knows if it lasted.... but the seed had been planted.
Blessings :)
KrisI can relate to what your saying and yes I also try to "inject" some light into people but the slapping of a child in my presence ......nah, I not going for that. Protection of children,no matter who's child it is, is one of the most important things a person can do. Example of failure to protect kids=Penn State University.

[58andfixed]

I can see and agree with both perspectives Kris & Truth4Me.

Both situations require their delicate handling, and are in different and unique envirionments.

In a situation that Kris relates, I can recall nick-naming a child in question in the midst of a messy divorce 'Princess Margaret.' It help to lift her demeanor.

In a public display of physical abuse to children, as an employee of an enterprise - there has been blow-back, and I'm not so sure that my experiences are worth repeating.

Seeds can be planted in soil that is hungry for some 'light of day,' and some seeds need to go in the midst of nettles.

I think about all I can say, is that the First Source would know my intention, and there may be a reconciling of justice in eternity -- however in the meantime, there may be a price to pay for verbalizing the planting of a seed to remain planted once vile parents like that leave the premises.

It seems that more protection goes into the protection of pets, than that of children.

I'm sure a case for socially engineered opportunities for dysfunctional future adults can be made with little speculation.

- 58

[Cjay]

truth4me, I feel your frustration and share it too. I think if more people stood up for strangers, especially for children who are being verbally/mentally or physically abused, the world would be a much happier place. We all witness things. We turn a blind eye. We often fear (or hesitate) getting involved because we think it is none of our business or because the abuse might escalate and/or turn on us or the abuse might intensify when they are out of our sight. In most cases, the abuser was abused at some time in their lives. I think it is better to speak up than do nothing. We need to break the cycle of abuse.

Kristo, I love the way you handled that situation. I wish someone had a similar conversation with my ex 30 years ago, before she started abusing our children. One of them is a psychological mess today.

A few days ago, I read a newspaper headline that I felt was the best I had ever read. It went something like:
Feeding kids junk food is abuse.

[mosquito]

I agree with what you say in principle Cjay, but the unfortunate reality is that the majority of people (all but 1) who I've witnessed abusing children have been women. And in the UK, there is absolutely no way a man could confront such a woman without getting himself into trouble. Similarly, I witnessed it a lot when I lived in Peru, but being the gringo I wasn't in a position to complain and my girlfriend at the time advised me to just ignore it, treat it as part of life.
That was a lovely story Kristo, you did what you could at the time, the seed was planted and the rest is now up to her ;)

[The One]

We abuse the world very day

You just have to look at our brothers and sisters in the less developed countries that are being left to die (we can do something about it but we choose not to)

No child should have to die young or suffer from abuse but i am a firm believer that what goes around comes around and that these bastards of society who inflict this will pay one day.

I prey one day that all suffering stops FULL STOP xxxxxx :grouphug:xxxxxxxxxx

[Lord Sidious]

I understand the frustration T4M. I do think how we handle the situation can have the desired affect. The initial knee-jerk reaction may be as hostile as what we are witnessing, but temperence may be more effective. An example: I once had a patient who was very 'harsh' with her daughter. The medical staff warned me of this before I took her back into my room. I 'read' the child and intuitively knew she was low in energy due to the way she was treated, but a very special child. That is what the mother was perceiving as being 'defiant'.... the child knew better than the mother. The mother was my patient, and due to the radiation during the exam, the child was in a neighboring room to protect her. During the exam I asked for Higher Guidance to interject some lasting impression upon the mother... What came through was powerful (I was a conduit...the words flowed from me) "Your daughter is beautiful." Mother"Yeah, 6 going on 24! What a stubborn handful!" Me "It's a gift she's so insightful and knows herself.... (long pause) Do you believe children choose their parents? I do.... Sometimes our children are the wise ones, and are here to teach us. Age can be irrelevent." Her tears flowed. I let them. I think she needed to go through the thoughts and whatever guilt she was experiencing. After her exam, she collected her daughter with a warm, patient hug.
Who knows if it lasted.... but the seed had been planted.
Blessings :)
Kris

No, blessings on your for helping that family.
That is priceless.