The lawsuit that could end the gangster rule of Western civilization

[Muzz]

From Benjamin Fulford -

November 24th, 201

A lawsuit was filed today (November 23rd US time) that could end the secret government that has ruled Western civilization for at least the past 300 years. The lawsuit claims that close to $1 trillion was stolen by, among others, UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and the UN, former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and the Italian government, Giancarlo Bruno and the Davos World Economic forum and others believed to include many of the owners of the US Federal Reserve Board. The lawsuit was filed in New York by Neil Keenan, acting as representative of the Dragon family, a reclusive group of wealthy Asian families. This filing is the result of extensive evidence gathering by international police and law-enforcement agencies including Interpol, the CIA, the Japanese Security Police, Eastern European secret services and has the backing of the Pentagon as well as the armed forces of Russia and China.

The ultimate defendants in this legal action are believed to be the same cabal behind the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy and many other major international crimes. more (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/)


The lawsuit has been filed as Civil Action #8500 at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on November 23, 2011.


Does anyone know if we can check this on the court website. I'm interested to see if there is any substance to this. A lot of his stuff is not backed up by anything.
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/forms.php

[modwiz]

Just the details of this lawsuit could create ripples that turn into tidal waves. The JFK part is huge.

[Lord Sidious]

Besides the fact that this is fulfordnugget, if you truly believe you can put a stop to them in their courts, you are sadly mistaken.

[eric charles]

Fullford :confused: is all i can say , its entertainement only :popcorn:

[buckminster fuller]

Courts are presided by men. Not all of them are evil slaves to the NWO. Actions can be taken. Justice still can prevail.
Giving up is no answer. Try one time, try a hundred times if needed.

Fatalism is our worst enemy here. Without the will for it, nothing will happen.

[Lord Sidious]

Courts are presided by men. Not all of them are evil slaves to the NWO. Actions can be taken. Justice still can prevail.
Giving up is no answer. Try one time, try a hundred times if needed.

Fatalism is our worst enemy here. Without the will for it, nothing will happen.

Nothing you said is wrong.
What I would ask you is this, have you ever attempted to use the courts to get a remedy against government?

[Snowbird]

Courts are presided by men. Not all of them are evil slaves to the NWO. Actions can be taken. Justice still can prevail.
Giving up is no answer. Try one time, try a hundred times if needed.

Fatalism is our worst enemy here. Without the will for it, nothing will happen.

With all due respect Lord Sid, but IMO, the above is :thumb: :thumb:

[Operator]

Nothing you said is wrong.
What I would ask you is this, have you ever attempted to use the courts to get a remedy against government?


You may not win the case in their own system ... it will raise consciousness however.

I see similar things happen in the Netherlands ... certain pedophiles are not convicted that's sad but
it draws more and more attention to the fact that the system isn't working as expected.
The more people that get dissatisfied the more likely it's gonna get detected soon.

I would like to see that happen sooner rather than later ... but at least there is some progress.

[Lord Sidious]

Courts are presided by men. Not all of them are evil slaves to the NWO. Actions can be taken. Justice still can prevail.
Giving up is no answer. Try one time, try a hundred times if needed.

Fatalism is our worst enemy here. Without the will for it, nothing will happen.

With all due respect Lord Sid, but IMO, the above is :thumb: :thumb:

As I said, he isn't wrong.
It depends on what you are trying to get out of the litigation.
If you expect a remedy, you may be disappointed.
But if like our friend Operator says, you are doing it for attention to be brought to the matter, that is a different thing entirely.
I have done both.

[KosmicKat]

Does anyone else see more and more cracks opening in the status quo?

[aranuk]

From Benjamin Fulford -

November 24th, 201

A lawsuit was filed today (November 23rd US time) that could end the secret government that has ruled Western civilization for at least the past 300 years. The lawsuit claims that close to $1 trillion was stolen by, among others, UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and the UN, former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and the Italian government, Giancarlo Bruno and the Davos World Economic forum and others believed to include many of the owners of the US Federal Reserve Board. The lawsuit was filed in New York by Neil Keenan, acting as representative of the Dragon family, a reclusive group of wealthy Asian families. This filing is the result of extensive evidence gathering by international police and law-enforcement agencies including Interpol, the CIA, the Japanese Security Police, Eastern European secret services and has the backing of the Pentagon as well as the armed forces of Russia and China.

The ultimate defendants in this legal action are believed to be the same cabal behind the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy and many other major international crimes. more (http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/)


The lawsuit has been filed as Civil Action #8500 at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on November 23, 2011.


Does anyone know if we can check this on the court website. I'm interested to see if there is any substance to this. A lot of his stuff is not backed up by anything.
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/forms.php

Hi Muzz, there wasn't anything there in that url. #8500 was not recorded as far as I could see.

Stan

[buckminster fuller]

This one came out recently too : kpFijwVTOLs

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

If this were real I would expect to see strong proof of it by way of a mainstream media scramble of sensational proportions. And very soon.

I trust very little of what this Fulford claims. For example the 'Kennedy' assassination theory claimed on the linked paged is wrong. Completely wrong. I think Fulford is either a fantacist, an opportunist (you have to pay to get his latest editorials, right?) or he's planting disinformation deliberately.

Wait a few days. Such a story could never be supressed for long. If nothing happens surrounding these high profile people, then Fulford is at last exposed.

[Muzz]

Thanks for that aranuk. I had a look but couldnt find where the cases were listed.
Cheers

[Kimberley]

Hello my friends.... funny I have not been on line this morning so just found the Fullford report on facebook an hour ago...and before coming here to Avalon have spent the past hour searching for the case that Fullfor aledges was filed in New York by Neil Keenan.

.."The lawsuit has been filed as Civil Action #8500 at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on November 23, 2011."

My husband is an Attorny and he loged into Pacer.gov (a suscription service see below) and as of right this moment there is NO record of a case filed By Neil Keenan on November 23 2011. There are other cases filled by him on record , however the most recent case listed was filed in 1999.

This does not mean it was not filed although it is not on the record at this time. Today is a holiday and the courts are closed so perhaps it was not posted into the system yet. So I will keep checking ... Lets wait and see if it shows up tomorrow...

I am on the case about this...thats my job to find the proof ... So I will keep an eye on this and report back. If anyone else can find the proof I too am wanting to see it with my own eyes. I like Fullford..however ...

Much Love to us ALL!! :luv:

http://www.pacer.gov/
Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) is an electronic public access service that allows users to obtain case and docket information from federal appellate, district and bankruptcy courts, and the PACER Case Locator via the Internet. PACER is provided by the federal Judiciary in keeping with its commitment to providing public access to court information via a centralized service.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thank you Kimberley that is exactly the kind of independent source I was hoping to see that could discover tangible confirmation, one way or the other, as to whether this is true or not.

Fulford certainly knows how to spin a good story, but if this goes up in smoke like I think it will then it'll do his reputation no good whatsoever as a whisleblower / alternative news source. There's enough confusion right now as there is, it's time to expose the frauds.

[Maia Gabrial]

I received this from ECETI News today that I'd like to share. Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually SEE the results finally happening?



"I was told Nov was the end of tyranny, clean up may take a bit longer but this may very well be the big event we have been waiting for along with the revolution. "

The lawsuit has been filed as Civil Action #8500 at the United States District Court for

the Southern District of New York on November 23, 2011. (details can be found there)

A lawsuit was filed today (November 23rd US time) that could end the secret government that has ruled Western civilization for at least the past 300 years. The lawsuit claims that close to $1 trillion was stolen by, among others, UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and the UN, former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and the Italian government, Giancarlo Bruno and the Davos World Economic forum and others believed to include many of the owners of the US Federal Reserve Board. The lawsuit was filed in New York by Neil Keenan, acting as representative of the Dragon family, a reclusive group of wealthy Asian families. This filing is the result of extensive evidence gathering by international police and law-enforcement agencies including Interpol, the CIA, the Japanese Security Police, Eastern European secret services and has the backing of the Pentagon as well as the armed forces of Russia and China.
The ultimate defendants in this legal action are believed to be the same cabal behind the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy and many other major international crimes.

This particular lawsuit was triggered by the illegal detainment of two Japanese citizens, Akihiko Yamaguchi and Mitsuyoshi Watanabe, as well as the seizure of $134.5 billion in bonds they were holding in Italy on June 3, 2009. After the bonds were stolen, self-described 33rd degree Freemason Leo Zagami contacted this writer and said the Monte Carlo P2 Masonic lodge could cash the bonds with the help of Vatican banker Daniel Dal Bosco. This writer forwarded the information, via a member of the UK Royal family, to the dragon family who entrusted a further $1 trillion worth of similar bonds to the plaintiff Neil Keenan. Keenan then, after much negotiation, entrusted the bonds to Dal Bosco.

Dal Bosco subsequently absconded with the bonds and was followed 24-hours a day by various intelligence service agents to see what he would do with them. The Dal Bosco trail led to the Davos World forum, the UN, the Italian government and the Vatican, among other places. Following this, Keenan was approached by a who's who of powerful figures including top Vatican officials, Wall Street bankers, European nobles and former US presidents, most offering him astronomical bribes to go away. He was also poisoned with ricin and nearly killed.

According to Keenan "The roots of this case go back to between 1927 and 1938, when, under arrangements made between T.V. Soong (Finance Minister of China) and Henry Morgethau, Secretary of the Treasury, The United States Government purchased some 50 million ounces of silver and leased vast amounts of gold from the Nationalist Chinese Government, known as Kuomintang. For all the treasure handed in, certificates were given to those who surrendered their precious metals."

Many of the bonds seized by Dal Bosco are backed with the Chinese gold taken by the Federal Reserve Board during those years and never returned to its legal owners.

Other bonds seized were Kennedy bonds. These bonds were backed by gold held in trust for the people of the planet and were supposed to be used to finance the economic development of the world. Instead they have mostly been stolen and misused by members of the cabal that has seized control of the Western financial system on behalf of private interests.

The original signatory to the Kennedy bonds was former Indonesian President Soekarno. Soekarno's heir Dr. Seno Edy Soekanto has given Keenan power of attorney to return their rightful owners the Kennedy bonds and other property allocated to the people of the world via something known as the global collateral accounts.

The lawsuit is only the first salvo in a legal battle to restore control of the global financial system to the people and governments of the world as well as the rightful owners of historical assets that have been seized by members of the banking cartel.

Background information on the problems with the global financial system

By Neil Keenan and Keith Scott.

The entire cause of the problem.

The United States is a private corporation owned by the British Crown (Rothschild's), the Bank of England (Rothschild's) and the Vatican (Rothschild's again). It was previously called the Virginia Company until 3/9/33 when it was dissolved by Roosevelt under the Emergency Banking Act. On 5/5/33 Congress elected to dissolve the Gold Standard and Sovereign Authority of the U.S. and all of its official capacities including government offices, departments and officers. The U.S. is a corporation, not a nation. The Federal Reserve is neither Federal, nor a Reserve. It is a private counterfeiting organization run by Jewish bankers who lend the money they print out of thin air at interest while we keep on paying these criminals to fleece the People.

That technology of theft and deception that has been exported from the United States through their promotion of this fraud as the paradigm of global finance is an obscenity that has set the seeds of its own destruction.

This has been compounded by the refusal of ordinary people to realize, know and understand that it is the duplicity of Governments and the deceit and endless greed of bankers that combined to simply fleece them like the apathetic sheep they are. Apathy and ignorance of the truth, creates belief in the lie. The truth is self-evident, but most people choose to neither hear it nor understand it. The debts of the Federal Reserve are the debts of a private corporation that is robbing the people of the United States.

The United States Dollar is a Federal Reserve Note and the obligations against the currency are the obligations of the Federal Reserve, not the people of the United States.

Understanding the History

1. Between 1927 and 1938, under arrangements made between T.V.Soong (Finance Minister of China) and Henry Morgethau, Secretary of the Treasury, The United States Government purchased some 50 million ounces of silver and leased vast amounts of gold from the Nationalist Chinese Government, known as Kuomintang. During this period China was partly occupied by Japanese troops and there was the fear of China being overrun by the Japanese.

2. For all the treasure handed in, certificates were given to those who surrendered their precious metals. The surrendered precious metals and gemstones were sent to the United States under a lease agreement made between T.V. Soong and Henry Morgenthau. The Certificates became the underlying funds of the Kuomintang and were good and accepted securities.

3. In 1934 a new Securities Act was promulgated in the United States, together with the Gold Act, which required all bullion gold and gold coin to be surrendered to the Federal Reserve, a private corporation chartered to operate as the Central Bank of the United States and to be the issuer of the currency known as the United States Dollar.

4. Domestically owned gold was purchased. Foreign Gold held by the Treasury was also surrendered to the Federal Reserve, so, was leased to the Federal Reserve. This began the series 1934 Notes issued by the Federal Reserve. These have never been redeemed and the interest cost was met by further issuances of the 1934 series FRN's.

5. These 1934 FRN's guarantee the lease payments and to allow the Chinese Government to continue financially. These came under the control of the Kuomintang, the Nationalist Government in China from whom the Gold had been received. Many were left in China when the Kuomintang had to flee to Taiwan. The Gold had been nationalized by the Kuomintang who moved much of the FRN's (but not all) to Taiwan which was built on these notes. These Notes were the underlying wealth of Taiwan and they were good for value as they were backed by gold.

6. During the war in China, most owners of the depository notes issued by Chinese Banks were killed by the Japanese, others later being killed by both the Kuomintang and the Chinese Communists, thus the Gold became property of the Nation, especially so, the Kuomintang. In Europe, Jews who had owned wealth were stripped of that wealth through various means and were then eliminated. The gold was taken either by stealth or by force, that is a reality of history.

7. The Kuomintang appointed guardians of this Gold and the securities issued by the United States; they are euphemistically known as the Dragon Family. The Dragon Family is in fact an organization that operates between old families within China and Taiwan, and as such is above the political divide of the two independent Chinese Governments. Chinese are remarkable in this regard, that old family ties and functions supersede political arrangements which, though they might last for generations, are regarded as inconsequential over the passage of time to most Chinese. Attached to this is the wealth of several nations. The United States in support of the Kuomintang and resistance groups actually printed more of these FRN notes inside China itself. These operations were run by the CIA to buy loyalty of various factions in the fight against the communists, eventually being driven out into Burma around 1960. Largely due to the additional printing of these notes, the additional Notes were given in lieu of interest, but directed to specific persons and parties.

8 At the end of the World War II, with Communist and Kuomintang factions at war in China, the International Community and the Chinese assented to the Gold being placed under the overt control of Indonesian President Soekarno. Soekarno then, on August 17, 1945, came to be known as M1 under United Nations Approval No. MISA 81704 "Operation Heavy Freedom. This was because much of the world's gold had been delivered into Indonesia and the Philippines. Canada, Australia, Great Britain, India and other British Colonies sent their gold to the so called "impregnable Singapore" The Japanese, as per the arrangements agreed to by Hirohito in the 1921 Pact Between Nations made in London, delivered much of this gold to Indonesia (Then a Dutch Colony) and to Philippines (Then a US Colony) into secret bunkers that had been mostly constructed by the Japanese between 1924 and 1945. This is why the Allied troops in Malaya had no air cover or sufficient supplies to that would have allowed them to resist the Japanese. Singapore had to fall so most of the global wealth could be "lost" into a secret system that made the gold standard redundant and fiat currencies a reality.

This gold was documented into accounts through the Swiss Commercial Bank Union Bank of Switzerland, placed under protection of the Swiss Attorney General, registered through the Swiss National Bank into the Bank for International Settlements International Collateral Combined accounts and then from within the BIS, blocked to form the Institutional Parent Registration Accounts of the Federal Reserve System.

Later President Marcos of the Philippines was appointed and held the position of M1 until 1987 and then the position was transferred to Dr. Ray C. Dam, in October of 1987, under Legal Decadency to Heir RCD1087 Far East Entire with formal Power of Attorney and Assignment of Indonesian Assets signed by Sarinah Soetiwi (holder of the assets on behalf of the Nation of Indonesia as assigned by President Soekarno) in 1992, Dam's authority later promulgated January 20, 1995. Dam proved to be impossible for the entire system to work with, (either because he refused to allow those who placed him in authority to steal, or because of his personal arrogance…. Difficult to know which is correct) and his authority over the Institutional parent registration Accounts set aside and the system reverted to the three Nations who had controlled these accounts since World war II, United States, Great Britain and France, who systematically and illegally subverted the established system since 1996.

9. From this we can see that there are two functional operations. One was ownership and Depository control by the owners of the Gold and the other a control system set in place to administer and control the Collateral Combined Accounts as an independent Arbiter. Ownership rights are held by the signatory to the Depository Accounts in Commercial Banks and Control Rights have been held by M1.

10. So it was, that the entire world supply of bullion and coinage gold was withdrawn and fiat currencies became the order of the day. However, underneath the notes and money issued by the Federal Reserve was the underlying wealth within a centralized system that Nations was intended to be used equitably, but Bankers determined they would use to raid national economies.

11. In 1963, President John F. Kennedy entered into an Agreement with President Soekarno to provide the funds to allow the United States Treasury to print its own currency, thus subverting the "right" to print the currency held by the Federal Reserve. The Agreement would have transferred some 59,000 tons of gold to underpin this currency. The problem with this was that the US domestic currency would have then been backed by gold which would have been a violation of international agreements meant to stabilize currencies. 11 days after signing this agreement, President Kennedy was assassinated. President Johnson the suspended EO11110 as issued by Kennedy and transferred the bullion to the Federal Reserve. The Green Hilton Agreement was not implemented until 1968 when Soekarno fell from office and when Global Trade made it imperative that the world have a Global Currency. As the Gold had been transferred to the US Treasury in 1968, a series of Bonds known as Kennedy Bonds were issued in order to honor the terms of the Green Hilton Agreement made between Kennedy and Soekarno, the 1968 terms of the gold delivery to the United States being different than made in 1934. When after 30 years, interest had not been paid as promised, a reissue of the bonds in an increased number were issued as commemorative notes and were accepted by the owners of the Gold, the Dragon Family.

12. From copies of Bank documents received by Neil Keenan, within the Green Hilton Memorial Agreement, the funds the amounts of gold and platinum are specified. These amounts of gold are certificated and the certificates and ledger copies with full and exact identification and recognition codes are available. These certificates are further proven by the bank reports, copies of which are now held by Neil Keenan. The truth of these instruments can be vigorously defended through documentation in our hands and further through interrogation of the Black Screens where the off ledger collateral is held, together with an interrogation of the grey and blue screens where we will find enormous fraud from the illegal use of these assets.

13. In the few documents we present with this complaint we can see that the assets have been deposited, the counter-assets created and presented to the depositors, the depositors have been cheated for over 70 years through the intentional and fraudulent failure of the Obligor to honor the Agreements.

14. In recent weeks we have come into possession of the books and records of the late President Soekarno, and all the codes and ledgers of the Global Accounts. The size of these accounts can be seen by reviewing the Collective Agreement between the Garuda Memorial Hilton Indonesia and the Green Memorial Hilton Geneva, established, structured and made operational between 1961 and final signature in 1972. Under this Agreement the assets of the international collateral combined were established and brought forward, then, within a short period of time misused to change the operating systems of banks.

15. Reviewing these books, we can now see that Banks set aside the notion of operating under the Charters they hold as banks, instead of being Banks they became like very poor casino operators and traders, selling what they do not own. The records in our possession, signed and registered by the receiving and managing commercial bank, show the underlying funds in numbers and amounts that stagger the imagination. The Green Hilton and Garuda Memorial Agreements demonstrate clearly the value of the global account system.

a) Gold and Platinum Deposits ran into millions of tons.

b) 1934 series Federal Reserve System Bonds, Notes issued in 1928 , Kennedy Bonds ran into Quadrillions of US Dollars, Dragon Bonds are all recorded and acknowledged within the Green Hilton and Memorial Hilton Collective Agreements. Both Assets in the form of Bullion surrendered to the Global Accounts through the United States Government and then entrusted to a private corporation, the Federal Reserve System.

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[Muzz]

Hello my friends.... funny I have not been on line this morning so just found the Fullford report on facebook an hour ago...and before coming here to Avalon have spent the past hour searching for the case that Fullfor aledges was filed in New York by Neil Keenan.

.."The lawsuit has been filed as Civil Action #8500 at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on November 23, 2011."

My husband is an Attorny and he loged into Pacer.gov (a suscription service see below) and as of right this moment there is NO record of a case filed By Neil Keenan on November 23 2011. There are other cases filled by him on record , however the most recent case listed was filed in 1999.

This does not mean it was not filed although it is not on the record at this time. Today is a holiday and the courts are closed so perhaps it was not posted into the system yet. So I will keep checking ... Lets wait and see if it shows up tomorrow...

I am on the case about this...thats my job to find the proof ... So I will keep an eye on this and report back. If anyone else can find the proof I too am wanting to see it with my own eyes. I like Fullford..however ...

Much Love to us ALL!! :luv:

http://www.pacer.gov/
Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) is an electronic public access service that allows users to obtain case and docket information from federal appellate, district and bankruptcy courts, and the PACER Case Locator via the Internet. PACER is provided by the federal Judiciary in keeping with its commitment to providing public access to court information via a centralized service.

Thats great. Thankyou Kimberley for your investigative work.

[modwiz]

If this were real I would expect to see strong proof of it by way of a mainstream media scramble of sensational proportions. And very soon.

I trust very little of what this Fulford claims. For example the 'Kennedy' assassination theory claimed on the linked paged is wrong. Completely wrong. I think Fulford is either a fantacist, an opportunist (you have to pay to get his latest editorials, right?) or he's planting disinformation deliberately.

Wait a few days. Such a story could never be supressed for long. If nothing happens surrounding these high profile people, then Fulford is at last exposed.

This is exactly the kind of story that will be suppressed for as long as the MSM can get away with it, just like OWS. When it cannot be contained any longer talking heads will try to marginalize it and make the filers of the suit seem like loons or some other kind of subversive. Then, things could get very interesting.

Unless Kimberly finds out the suit does not exist and we have been punked.

[eric charles]

This comes from Fullfords blog Maia ,

[Lord Sidious]

Unless Kimberly finds out the suit does not exist and we have been punked.

I bet you already know the answer to this.

[Maia Gabrial]

Thanks. The email didn't say where it came from. It doesn't really sound like Fulford's writing, though....

[Jonathon]

Given IF this were true, what force and effect do they expect a civil suit will render? Civil and not criminal? Not to mention it's in the wrong court (as if any court was the right one)... should this not be in an international criminal tribunal of some kind? And who would enforce any action? What are they going to do, put a lien on Rockefeller Center?

[VaughnB]

For those registered with PACER court record search tool, let's wait a couple business days.
Any findings please post a follow-up here.


THEN:



If confirmation on filing: let's do our part to make it viral



If NO confirmation of filing: Let's file our own lawsuit.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Interesting, but as always, Ben Fulford needs to deliver the goods. Ever piece of correspondance that has come from him regarding the white dragions, the lawsuits, has not ever materialized, and although he seems to knwo what is going on, there has never been any shreds of proof that could be taken seriously.

One can only hope that it at least get some exposure and lets some more light in

PVM

[Lord Sidious]

For those registered with PACER court record search tool, let's wait a couple business days.
Any findings please post a follow-up here.


THEN:



If confirmation on filing: let's do our part to make it viral



If NO confirmation of filing: Let's file our own lawsuit.


I would suggest you stay away from law suits unless you have the ability to do it yourself or a stack of funds for representation.
And that you can afford to lose.

[Muzz]

For those registered with PACER court record search tool, let's wait a couple business days.
Any findings please post a follow-up here.


THEN:



If confirmation on filing: let's do our part to make it viral



If NO confirmation of filing: Let's file our own lawsuit.


I would suggest you stay away from law suits unless you have the ability to do it yourself or a stack of funds for representation.
And that you can afford to lose.

Guess we'll have to activate those ninja's then. :)

[Calz]

Courts are presided by men. Not all of them are evil slaves to the NWO. Actions can be taken. Justice still can prevail.
Giving up is no answer. Try one time, try a hundred times if needed.

Fatalism is our worst enemy here. Without the will for it, nothing will happen.

Nothing you said is wrong.
What I would ask you is this, have you ever attempted to use the courts to get a remedy against government?


Not personally but on occasion you get an honest man as prosecutor like Patrick J. Fitzgerald in the Scooter Libby case.

Now ... perhaps that was a matter of someone "falling on their sword" to protect those above them ...

Regardless ... just citing one example (from memory) where the judicial system going after government is an honest attempt at justice.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Libby

[Lord Sidious]

Courts are presided by men. Not all of them are evil slaves to the NWO. Actions can be taken. Justice still can prevail.
Giving up is no answer. Try one time, try a hundred times if needed.

Fatalism is our worst enemy here. Without the will for it, nothing will happen.

Nothing you said is wrong.
What I would ask you is this, have you ever attempted to use the courts to get a remedy against government?


Not personally but on occasion you get an honest man as prosecutor like Patrick J. Fitzgerald in the Scooter Libby case.

Now ... perhaps that was a matter of someone "falling on their sword" to protect those above them ...

Regardless ... just citing one example (from memory) where the judicial system going after government is an honest attempt at justice.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Libby

Unless I misunderstood our friends intent, he is talking about us launching a suit, not the government.
I mean, yeah, you could try a RICO deal on them, but you really have to be up to it.

[Aryslan]

Fulford is as much news as the local tabloid. Can we please stop posting his nonsense in the 'News and Updates' section? :p He's another money maker, and probably doing quite well at it, considering all the sheeple out there that'll believe anything that's given the proper spin.

[jackovesk]

One thing I know for sure...

Sooner or Later, something Has to Give..!

[GlassSteagallfan]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf

You decide

[Lord Sidious]

I am still reading the Statement of Claim, but this so far is very interesting.
He is opening the biggest can of worms I ever saw in a court.
On a side note, I wonder if this is in anyway connected to a couple of Japanese being arrested in Italy a few years ago whilst in possession of ''fake'' bonds worth billions?

Ok, just viewed the blog.
It is about that.
Interesting, very interesting.

[Pete]

It's nice to see it in black and white, isn't it?

[Lord Sidious]

Check out what I found on page 37 of the statement of claim.


E. The Events of July 2009 and the Introduction of DAL BOSCO to KEENAN
70. Upon information and belief, on or about July 9,2009, following a long period of
emails between the two, Mr. Leo Zagami, a self-described 33rd degree Free Mason, who, as of
Apri12008, had reportedly claimed to be the leader of a breakaway faction of the Knights
Templar and high-level Freemasons centered around the elite of the Masonic P2 (Propaganda
Due) Lodge in Monte Carlo, arrived in Japan to speak with Fulford. According to Fulford,
Zagami had claimed to be a representative of the Vatican Illuminati and other European sect
societies and had been looking to make contact with certain Asian Secret Societies.

I bet that will get Bill going!

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Now that was a nice touch...

As the saying goes... "Them's fightin words!" lol

PVM

[miqeel]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf

You decide

I have been always skeptical towards all Fullford's claims, but that pdf is actually making me stop and think twice about disqualifying his updates.
Great find! I'm really curious how is that going to develop.

[araucaria]

So Ben Fulford has come up with the goods big time.

It would be big of the doubters to acknowledge that, not necessarily as vocally as they dismissed him. :)

[merecat]

one to watch.

[Lord Sidious]

So Ben Fulford has come up with the goods big time.

It would be big of the doubters to acknowledge that, not necessarily as vocally as they dismissed him. :)

Don't count your chickens yet nugget.
Yes, this is the summons and statement of claim.
Wait until it can be tracked online, so that we know for a fact this is real.
Man, I would love to be there for every part of this action.
I hope they don't toss this on a technicality.
It seems to be well written and covers the jurisdiction and cause of action parts well.
I am halfway through it and I haven't gotten to the relief sought part yet.

[araucaria]

So Ben Fulford has come up with the goods big time.

It would be big of the doubters to acknowledge that, not necessarily as vocally as they dismissed him. :)

Don't count your chickens yet nugget.
Yes, this is the summons and statement of claim.
Wait until it can be tracked online, so that we know for a fact this is real.
Man, I would love to be there for every part of this action.
I hope they don't toss this on a technicality.
It seems to be well written and covers the jurisdiction and cause of action parts well.
I am halfway through it and I haven't gotten to the relief sought part yet.

not counting chickens. What would 'tracking online' involve that hasn't just been done?
Relief sought is a few trillion, as expected.
Someone should be able to identify the first two pages as genuine. I agree the rest looks pretty ok

[Lord Sidious]

So Ben Fulford has come up with the goods big time.

It would be big of the doubters to acknowledge that, not necessarily as vocally as they dismissed him. :)

Don't count your chickens yet nugget.
Yes, this is the summons and statement of claim.
Wait until it can be tracked online, so that we know for a fact this is real.
Man, I would love to be there for every part of this action.
I hope they don't toss this on a technicality.
It seems to be well written and covers the jurisdiction and cause of action parts well.
I am halfway through it and I haven't gotten to the relief sought part yet.

not counting chickens. What would 'tracking online' involve that hasn't just been done?
Relief sought is a few trillion, as expected.
Someone should be able to identify the first two pages as genuine. I agree the rest looks pretty ok

The summons does indeed appear to be prima facie genuine.
But I have seen this before, so I never assume.

[Kimberley]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdfYou decide


Great Find GlassSteagallfan ...will read this a little later today. My attorney says this document looks legit to him. He checked Pacer.gov and it is not showing up there yet... We will keep looking for it to confirm from the Pacer perspective.

My intuition is telling me that this is real...where it will go is going to be of interest for sure...

Much :luv:

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Awesome. How long can this be kept quiet, or dodge media scrutiny? I wait with bated breath..

[GlassSteagallfan]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdfYou decide


Great Find GlassSteagallfan ...will read this a little later today. My attorney says this document looks legit to him. He checked Pacer.gov and it is not showing up there yet... We will keep looking for it to confirm from the Pacer perspective.

My intuition is telling me that this is real...where it will go is going to be of interest for sure...

Much :luv:

Link was found on this blog:

http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/

As you read the blog, the link is at an underlined 'here'.

With real estate recordings, it takes a few days - sometimes weeks, before the online version is available. RE records are first microfilmed and then put online. Now apply same procedure to civil records.?

[gripreaper]

First of all, you have "jurisdiction" both venue and subject matter. The fact that this is filed in the United States District Court, puts it in the venue of the "de facto" Corporate Unites States under the British Accredited Registry system of jurisprudence (BAR Association attorneys) subject to statutory resolutions and interpretations by a de facto private corporate judge, acting in his own interests and pocketing funds from the case which go into his CRIS (Court Registry Investment Systems) account. Judges are acting in the capacity of private contractors and are not subject to any oath of office under any public servant mandates. Do your due diligence.

The venue should have been a chancery court of equity under Common Law, or the district court of the united states, the true "de jure" venue. The spelling may seem immaterial, but it is crucial. A retired Common Law judge should be brought in under an oath of office, as a magistrate without the authority to rule on the case, and the jury should be allowed to vote their conscience as per Common Law and not be subjected to the mandates of statutory interpretation. Those who go "under" the statutory courts , which are not subject to laws or the constitution, will most likely get the same success rate as we are seeing in the foreclosure nightmare, where 95% of all foreclosure cases go against the homeowners and in favor of the banksters.

I'm sorry to say that our courts have been hijacked and sold out a long time ago. See Erie Railroad v Thompson in 1938 where this case explains how the Common Law has been suspended and how the constitution cannot be used in court. Although I do agree that any noise is better than no noise, and that energetically on the quantum level, these types of events do cause the energy to merge and coalesce, I will save my conclusions until I see how this plays out.. Hopefully these energies then begin to bring about further manifestations of the awakening.

Godspeed!

[jackovesk]

Can Ben's 'Secret Ninjas' take 'Out' the 'Secret Masters' and their Minions, is the $64m Question..???

http://media.adamdodson.org/var/resizes/Illuminati-Card-Game/ninjas.png?m=1276953744 http://media.adamdodson.org/var/resizes/Illuminati-Card-Game/secret%20master.png?m=1276954081

[ThePythonicCow]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf

You decide
That is filed in the Southern District of New York, one of the most corrupt courts in America, and absolutely in the control of the financial criminals. See Martin Armstrong's case (such as in this 2007 article: http://princetoneconomics.blogspot.com/2007/04/latest-on-martin-armstrongs-legal.html ) for one example of what I speak.

There is zero chance of this filing getting any traction.

[araucaria]

So Ben Fulford has come up with the goods big time.

It would be big of the doubters to acknowledge that, not necessarily as vocally as they dismissed him. :)

Don't count your chickens yet nugget.
Yes, this is the summons and statement of claim.
Wait until it can be tracked online, so that we know for a fact this is real.
Man, I would love to be there for every part of this action.
I hope they don't toss this on a technicality.
It seems to be well written and covers the jurisdiction and cause of action parts well.
I am halfway through it and I haven't gotten to the relief sought part yet.

not counting chickens. What would 'tracking online' involve that hasn't just been done?
Relief sought is a few trillion, as expected.
Someone should be able to identify the first two pages as genuine. I agree the rest looks pretty ok

The summons does indeed appear to be prima facie genuine.
But I have seen this before, so I never assume.

I don't like chicken nuggets and other fast food either, Sid.
But remember we are pushing this the only way we know how from here

[Guaxini]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf

You decide32. Defendant, the ITALIAN FINANCIAL POLICE, or Guardia di Finanza, meaning
"Financial Guard" ("GdF") is a militarized Italian police force under the authority of the Minister
of Economy and Finance of the ITALIAN REPUBLIC and ultimately, at all relevant times
herein, acted under the authority of defendant BERLUSCONI. It is a part of the Italian Armed
Forces and is essentially responsible for dealing with financial crime and smuggling. Its
activities are financial, economic, judiciary and public safety and, among other things under its
jurisdiction are smuggling, money laundering, customs and border checks, and political and
military defense of the Italian borders.


this actually mention Berlusconi..my god the guy is already been charged of several convictions. money laundering, white collar crime you know.
this is really something :D

[Ba-ba-Ra]

BIG THANK YOU GLASSTEAGALLFAN By the way (I'm slow) just got your name.

Just grazed through the Civil Action. "IF" it is real, and I suspect it is:

1) I have to reevaluate my opinion of Fulford

2) I realize international intrigue is more complicated than I realized (and I'm far from naive)

3) Even if nothing comes of it, It shows me the main characters are caving in on themselves

4) Also confirms to me that Disclosure is happening at many levels and that the Universe is no longer supporting that which is wrong for the whole.

5) And probably lots of other things I'll think of after I post this, but I must say I'm encouraged.

[Muzz]

Wow. Just finnished work and wasnt expecting this. Many thanks to Glassteagalfan for your post. Very interesting.

[Kimberley]

Hey... I do not have many answers for you ... I am only little me...being the best I am... I am doing my best to be a conscious reporter... and will continue to be just that...Much love to us all... :luv:

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

I just have a question, and maybe someone with a little more knowledge of how the whole system works could help, would there have been any other court where this particular case could have been filed?

The reason that I ask is, was it purposefully done at this particular court for that reason, if it is one of the more corrupt? I only thought this since it could be a possibility that if the MSM doesn't pick this up, it coulr widen the gap open for the general populace to see it for themselves how corrupt that something so serious, and damning (potentially) can be hushed by the courts.

Maybe I am going out on a limb with that, but anyone that has any more knowledge about the system could provide more info...

Thanks
PVM

[araucaria]

Having read most of the Sherman Skolnick reports in his “campaign to clean up the US courts”, I’m not sure which court might be relied upon to do a decent job. If it going to do a lousy job anyway, let’s make sure it does so with maximum publicity.

However, Ben Fulford’s reputation does not hang on the honesty or otherwise of the US jurisdiction. He announced this action and the corresponding document has surfaced, period. If it were a hoax, it would be an extremely elaborate one with a very short half-life. While we cannot check whether this is indeed case #8500 at that court, right now we can check its ballpark likelihood by looking for #8400 or #8300 and seeing if they line up.

It is not the outcome of the trial, but the very existence of the document that some people were stating as very unlikely. We hear plenty of what ‘resonates’ or otherwise with folk on Avalon and elsewhere. This is no more than distracting noise unless they are willing to recalibrate their BS-meters when they get things wrong. (Obviously this does not concern you, Sid).

[cellardoor]

Bill Ryan 15/10/11

"Reliable personal testimony (off the top of my head - this list is almost certainly incomplete):
Bill Hamilton
Gary McKinnon
Henry Deacon
Clifford Stone
Bob Dean
Ralph Ring
Dan Sherman
‘Mr X’, the ET archivist
Duncan O’Finioan
Dave Corso
Jim Sparks
Bill Holden
George Green
Luca Scantamburlo
Miriam Delicado
Bill Deagle
Brian O’Leary
The Norwegian Politician
Jim Humble
Paul LaViolette
Peter Levenda
Wade Frazier
David Icke
Jim Marrs
Jordan Maxwell
Joseph Farrell
Erich von Däniken
Klaus Dona
Pete Peterson
Ricardo Silva
Jane Bürgermeister
Richard Dolan
Dane Tops"
-------------------
Leo Zigami?
Benjamin Fulford?

[Cjay]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf

You decide

So it would seem Fulford was right this time. Perhaps a few Fulford-bashers were a bit hasty in their judgement.

[onawah]

I have been one of the forum members who has been posting David Wilcock's info which was based on Fulford's info, knowing full well how controversial it all has been, and not convinced myself, but still feeling there must be some truth to it.
So this is very gratifying news.
I'm still waiting for Wilcock's 3rd article on the alleged emptied DUMBs, but this story is just as big in it's own way.
Imagine a 2012 in which all this turns out to be true and a victory!

I'm not nearly as afraid of being disappointed as I am of having no hope in the first place.
Been there, done that.

[KosmicKat]

Bill Ryan 15/10/11

Don't forget, Bill is just a man. A very courageous, and intrepid man. But subject to the same weaknesses as all of us. Be open to the possibilities, but hold on to those things that you know because it happened to you !


I'm not nearly as afraid of being disappointed as I am of having no hope in the first place.
Been there, done that.
Whatever the outcome, it's just part of the ride. Don't get too distracted by the details (see the Mandelbrot thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35167-The-Mandelbrot-Set.....Proof-of-infinity&highlight=Mandelbrot)), you can see the same thing later, from a broader perspective.

[WhiteFeather]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf

You decide

So it would seem Fulford was right this time. Perhaps a few Fulford-bashers were a bit hasty in their judgement.

Maybe just maybe he was telling some truth, and yes he was bashed pretty good.

[AllThatIs]

Well, as always I'm hoping the story is true. Unfortunately my intuition (I think the best compass) has some doubts, which is originated by the feeling I get when listening/reading to Benjamin Fulford. I like to give everybody a serious benefit of the doubt, but following him for several years now, he seems to me like somebody living in his own fantasy world. Maybe watching too much television and movies in his past, explains his constant sensationalism and profound drama in (almost) all of his stories, and (almost) never backing them up with some concrete evidence or results. And his "permanent cold" or "allergy to cats" (always sniffing) doesn't help too much either, although - of course - people can live their lives and believe whatever they want to. However, intelligent people like David Wilcock is taking him very serious, which makes me wonder even a bit more. But I guess it is my personal issue, because after spending so much time on these issues, and investigating so many stories, it's probably too hard for me to see what the "real truth" is nowadays...

[cellardoor]

Don't forget, Bill is just a man. A very courageous, and intrepid man. But subject to the same weaknesses as all of us. Be open to the possibilities, but hold on to those things that you know because it happened to you !

I fear his weaknesses have interfered with our timelines . If you read this Bill, why on earth did you and Kerry blow the whistle in Nov 2009? I stumbled across it the other day and was very confused. Think how different it could have been now if that hadn't happened.

[Guaxini]

This might be what your looking for:

114 pages
Name and address of the attorney, etc...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf

You decide
That is filed in the Southern District of New York, one of the most corrupt courts in America, and absolutely in the control of the financial criminals. See Martin Armstrong's case (such as in this 2007 article: http://princetoneconomics.blogspot.com/2007/04/latest-on-martin-armstrongs-legal.html ) for one example of what I speak.

There is zero chance of this filing getting any traction.
i believe that corruption issue depends on the person, depends on the judge.

[ThePythonicCow]

i believe that corruption issue depends on the person, depends on the judge.
Indeed :).

(Though I suspect an honest judge would not be allowed to sit on some courts :p.)

[Muzz]

This is probably a daft question but, does anyone know why 5 and 10 are missing in the Schedule A Defendants?


1. DANIELE DAL BOSCO
2. THE OFFICE OF INTERNATIONAL TREASURY CONTROL
3. RAY C. DAM, individually, and as President ofOITC
4. DAVID A. SALE, individually, and as Deputy Chief of the Council for the Cabinet of
OITC
6. THE UNITED NATIONS
7. BAN KI-moon, individually, and as Secretary General of the UN
8. H.E. Ambassador CESARE MARIA RAGAGLINI, Individually, and as Permanent
Representative of the Italian Mission to the UN in New York
9. H.E. Ambassador LAURA MlRACHIAN, Individually, and as Permanent Representative
of the Italian Mission to the UN in Geneva
11. ITALIAN REPUBLIC
12. ITALIAN FINANCIAL POLICE
13. SILVIO BERLUSCONI, Former Prime Minister of Italy
14. THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM
15. WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM U.S.A., INC.
16. GIANCARLO BRUNO, individually, and as Head of the Banking Industry of WEF

At first I thought it was the individual and their role, but that doesnt fit 7,8 & 9 if you catch my drift.

However this turns out, we still have the issue of the bonds being intercepted in Italy. I'll post this Bloomberg article (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a62_boqkurbI) simply because its mainstream, but has interesting points.


News that’s more fitting for international spy novels than the financial pages won’t help that effort.


Think about it: These two guys were carrying the gross domestic product of New Zealand or enough for three Beijing Olympics. If economies were for sale, the men could buy Slovakia and Croatia and have plenty left over for Mongolia or Cambodia.


It almost fits with the surreal nature of today that a couple of travelers have more U.S. debt than Brazil in a suitcase and, well, that’s life.
Clancy Bestseller

S_6HTRTtMs0

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net article (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_bigcrash47.htm)

The other thing with this story is the lack of info on Keenan. Who is he?

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

there are alot of holes in this, but I agree it is quiter elaborate.

I will be the first to admit, that I am a Fulford Basher, but I also will read everything that he comes out with. It is unfortunate that there is never real evidence to back up his claims, but in this case it could be completely different.

I am not here to hail him a hero, or a disinfo agent, though I think monitoring and investigation, in this case esxpecially, are highly important.

PVM

[ThePythonicCow]

It is unfortunate that there is never real evidence to back up his claims, but in this case it could be completely different.
It's real evidence - yes - but - it's real evidence that could have been created by any sufficiently skilled small team. Any person or small team of sufficient competence can file such a lawsuit.

I have yet to see any evidence that would determine whether the special things that Fulford claims are true, or whether he is just the point man for a fantasy production.

[Muzz]

there are alot of holes in this, but I agree it is quiter elaborate.

I will be the first to admit, that I am a Fulford Basher, but I also will read everything that he comes out with. It is unfortunate that there is never real evidence to back up his claims, but in this case it could be completely different.

I am not here to hail him a hero, or a disinfo agent, though I think monitoring and investigation, in this case esxpecially, are highly important.

PVM

Thanks for honest post. A lot of people wrote him off a while ago. I understand totally. I'm still neutral on him, which is generous. I'll read his info and post threads, but will also pick holes and crack a wee joke here and there. Either way, we (or maybe its just I) need to get to the bottom of this.

My old boss used to say "experience is what you get when you didnt get what you wanted". If it is all baloney, at least I'll be a bit wiser.

[onawah]

Either way, we (or maybe its just I) need to get to the bottom of this. .

I definitely am in the same boat with you, Muzz, and I'm sure other Avalonians are too.
If the info that Fulford has been putting out is all false, then the alternative community ought to take action and put him and others like him out of business.
And though I think David Wilcock, Alfred Webre and others are basically sincere people, doing their best to sort the gold from the garbage, if they have been deluded by Fulford, then they certainly need to be alerted and to come clean as well, about being duped themselves.

[Kimberley]

Reporting back that this filing has NOT shown up on in Pacer yet... We will keep looking...

Much love :luv:


http://www.pacer.gov/
Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) is an electronic public access service that allows users to obtain case and docket information from federal appellate, district and bankruptcy courts, and the PACER Case Locator via the Internet. PACER is provided by the federal Judiciary in keeping with its commitment to providing public access to court information via a centralized service.

[Mitm]

Well I think we should wait until it does show up in the Pacer website, to make sure it has actually been filed... first thing I did once I heard of the lawsuit was try to confirm it.....

[Muzz]

This has just been posted on the Divine Cosmos forum. I couldnt confirm if it was actually Davids words (no source link provided) but here it is anyway.

David's HUGE comment in Fulford's Nov 28th blog entry in four parts

**Part One**

Hello Everyone,

I’ve been through the entire legal document, line by line and page by page, as of Saturday night. I contacted Ben for an interview and it will happen Tuesday.

While this is very obviously a legal document, backed by extensive research, I was alarmed by the fact that the entire section on the World Economic Forum, beginning at number 33 in the document, is copied almost word-for-word out of Wikipedia with very few changes:


Again, I am not drawing definitive conclusions at this point, but I cannot publicly support this as a valid document. Fulford admitted that the “OITC” is fraudulent and that raises many questions, as it is referred to extensively in the document.

link (http://divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?9480-Benjamin-Fulford&p=62511#post62511)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks for that, interesting to hear Wilcock's analysis of the situation.

[modwiz]

This has just been posted on the Divine Cosmos forum. I couldnt confirm if it was actually Davids words (no source link provided) but here it is anyway.

David's HUGE comment in Fulford's Nov 28th blog entry in four parts

**Part One**

Hello Everyone,

I’ve been through the entire legal document, line by line and page by page, as of Saturday night. I contacted Ben for an interview and it will happen Tuesday.

While this is very obviously a legal document, backed by extensive research, I was alarmed by the fact that the entire section on the World Economic Forum, beginning at number 33 in the document, is copied almost word-for-word out of Wikipedia with very few changes:


Again, I am not drawing definitive conclusions at this point, but I cannot publicly support this as a valid document. Fulford admitted that the “OITC” is fraudulent and that raises many questions, as it is referred to extensively in the document.

link (http://divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?9480-Benjamin-Fulford&p=62511#post62511)

Wikipedia? Huge red flag for me. Why don't we ask Lucifer for his input while we're at it. :rolleyes:

[Zillah]

David Wilcock’s Comment on Ben Fulford’s 11-28-11 article, and the Lawsuit Document… (http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/david-wilcocks-comment-on-ben-fulfords-11-28-11-article-and-the-lawsuit-document/)

Posted on November 28, 2011
from Kauilapele’s blog

Well, having just finished the Ben Fulford 11-28-11 post (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/benjamin-fulford-11-28-11-chaos-prevails-at-the-highest-levels-of-government-in-the-west-as-the-financial-fraud-unravels-truth-is-stranger-than-fiction), I searched for “dwilcock” on the same page, and there was this quite extensive comment. Pretty long, so I’ve done a “Read more” halfway through (note: much of the “neater” stuff is in the “Read More” section).

Most of the comment is related to the legal complaint (lawsuit) pdf document, available here (RMN link) (http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf) or here (KP link) (http://tinyurl.com/7t66mwa). David expresses doubt about the authenticity of the document, and why it was constructed was it was. He says that this could be an (cabal) insider attempt to bring Ben down. He says the document may have “been the target of a DDT (Decoy, Distract and Trash) campaign”.


David has scheduled an interview with Ben for tomorrow (Tuesday, 11-29-11) to clarify some questions he has about the document, and the entire situation. Surely he will upload the interview so we all may listen. Keep an eye on DivineCosmos.com (and this blog) for more.

Here are highlights from my end.

Highlights


I contacted Ben for an interview and it will happen Tuesday [11-29-11].
I would say my number-one concern out of all this is that the document alleges that the Dragon Family has “thousands of trillions” of dollars in metals-backed bonds and is only giving Neil Keenan control of one trillion…
The document sets up the possibility of a single-point failure. Kill Neil Keenan and there is not one written provision for a backup in terms of who the equity would transfer to in that event.
The document refers to the OITC as if it were a real entity, or at least constructed as part of a front for an elaborate scam.
The idea that so much content would be plagiarized from Wikipedia in a lawsuit that the future of humanity is supposedly riding on seems troubling to me.
…I don’t like the fact that this document provides no structure as to how Neil Keenan would distribute the equity in the event it is transferred to him. The statement they gave Fulford on his typepad blog blames the world’s problems on “Jewish bankers,” which is not what Fulford agrees with and this poses another problem, as it is clearly untrue.
All that being said, I have direct insider knowledge of how the Bretton Woods / international banking system really works. There is a LOT of info in this document that is accurate about how the system runs and is NOT public.
There is no question that the BRICS alliance is rising up against the Old World Order.
Many things Fulford has said corroborate very nicely with what my own insiders have shared with me and I did not make public. This has happened so many times as to be dazzling.
So, my point is that something real is going on here. I do not want to definitively conclude that this new legal document is fraudulent. It is too early to tell…
I told Ben it is possible that he has been the target of a DDT (Decoy, Distract and Trash) campaign… the idea would be to possibly even take it so far as to start soliciting “investments” in a “prosperity program” so that some people get excited and expect to be rich…
However… this is a hyper-complex legal document…does not have grammatical errors… is highly intricate… names many people by their full name and gives detailed allegations. The effort it would take to fake something of this complexity would be vast.
…this document has powerful insider knowledge that is not public. It aligns very nicely with a variety of things I’ve heard about and have not published. It clearly aligns with data that Fulford has independently obtained from witnesses firsthand.
There is still excitement and sizzle in this story for me because the document may have been deliberately created to LOOK LIKE it was nothing more than a scam… Every insider I know says that the big game is always that “the truth is sandwiched between two lies.”
Fulford is a marvelous antidote to the fear porn that dominates the alternative conspiracy media and I support him and his work. That’s why I took the time and studied this [legal document] as if it were a contract I myself was reviewing…
…I personally do not support this document as legitimate unless compelling new information addresses the inconsistencies.
I highly encourage you to maintain a positive attitude and not give into fear. One of the cornerstones of my work is that our thoughts are not private — they influence the world around us.
—————————————————————————


Hello Everyone,

I’ve been through the entire legal document, line by line and page by page, as of Saturday night. I contacted Ben for an interview and it will happen Tuesday.

While this is very obviously a legal document, backed by extensive research, I was alarmed by the fact that the entire section on the World Economic Forum, beginning at number 33 in the document, is copied almost word-for-word out of Wikipedia with very few changes:

Fulford Document:



33. Upon information and belief, defendant the World Economic Forum (hereinafter, “WEF”) is a Swiss registered non-profit foundation best known for its annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, which brings together top business leaders, international political leaders, selected intellectuals and journalists to discuss the most pressing issues facing the world, including health and the environment.

The WEF was founded in 1971 by Klaus Martin Schwab, a German-born business professor at the University of Geneva. It was originally named the European Management Forum, but changed to its present name in 1987 and sought to broaden its vision further to include providing a platform for resolving international conflicts.

The WEF is headquartered in Cologny, Switzerland, near Geneva. In 2006 it opened affiliate offices in Beijing, China and New York, New York. The WEF purports to strive to be impartial, and is not tied to any political, partisan or national interests.

In 2009, it opened an office in Tokyo, Japan. It is committed to improving the State of the World and has observer status with the United Nations Economic and Social Council, and is under the supervision of the Swiss Federal Government.

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_economic_forum



The World Economic Forum (WEF) is a Swiss non-profit foundation, based in Cologny, Geneva, best known for its annual meeting in Davos, a mountain resort in Graubünden, in the eastern Alps region of Switzerland.

The meeting brings together top business leaders, international political leaders, selected intellectuals and journalists to discuss the most pressing issues facing the world, including health and the environment….

The foundation was founded in 1971 by Klaus Schwab, a German-born business professor at the University of Geneva.[2] Originally named the European Management Forum, it changed its name to the World Economic Forum in 1987 and sought to broaden its vision further to include providing a platform for resolving international conflicts….

Headquartered in Cologny, the foundation opened, in 2006, regional offices in Beijing, China; and New York City, New York, United States. It strives to be impartial, and is not tied to any political, partisan or national interests.

The foundation is “committed to improving the State of the World”,[9] and has observer status with the United Nations Economic and Social Council, and is under the supervision of the Swiss Federal Council.

DW: I also noticed that the only thing that was added to this document that was not in the Wiki version was the sentence about an office having opened up in Tokyo, Japan. My initial fear was that this office may not even exist except as part of a vast fraud being perpetrated on Fulford.

I would say my number-one concern out of all this is that the document alleges that the Dragon Family has “thousands of trillions” of dollars in metals-backed bonds and is only giving Neil Keenan control of one trillion (the matured value of the 134.5B, most of which was issued in 1934 and has built in interest ever since.) However, if I were the Dragon Family and watching the world’s economies going down the toilet, including China’s, I doubt I’d hand over all power of attorney and trusteeship to a single representative.

The document becomes very repetitive in the last 40 pages, and again and again the reader is presented with the idea that Neil Keenan has been wronged, Neil Keenan has suffered financial damage, and Neil Keenan needs to be paid a trillion dollars to make up for this.

The document sets up the possibility of a single-point failure. Kill Neil Keenan and there is not one written provision for a backup in terms of who the equity would transfer to in that event. Hardly anyone in the “Dragon Family” is even named as a potential beneficiary. China obviously could desperately use the control of legitimate money to prop up their economy now, but we are supposed to believe the Dragon Family has given Keenan exclusive control of this money to do whatever he wants.

In addition, the OITC website is painfully amateur and obviously fraudulent. It forced me to reload my entire browser in 32-bit mode to run the videos. There are lots of obvious grammatical errors. The two “videos” are both very amateur Power Point presentations that anyone could have easily cooked up on their PC. The Illuminati-based symbol at the beginning of the first video is too obvious and therefore appears to be deliberately planted to make conspiracy theorists think they “found something.”

The document refers to the OITC as if it were a real entity, or at least constructed as part of a front for an elaborate scam. However, a quick Wikipedia search on “Office of International Treasury Control” reveals that the same people named in the lawsuit appear to have been involved in fraudulent activity, including an attempt to finance Fiji with billions of dollars that did not materialize.

All those are the principal negatives. The idea that so much content would be plagiarized from Wikipedia in a lawsuit that the future of humanity is supposedly riding on seems troubling to me. If I were paying a lawyer 400 an hour, I would at least expect that “due diligence” would require him to rewrite those sentences, or add something inspired by our knowledge of this organization on an insider level that supersedes whatever is public on Wikipedia.

If at any moment Neil Keenan begins saying that he expects to take possession of this trillion dollars and will distribute it to “shareholders” in a “prosperity program” he is offering, and in order to reserve your money you need to “buy in”, then I would consider that to be the kill-shot that proves this entire document is a highly elaborate scam.

We have seen before how people create vast stories about how the Federal Reserve owes some entity money, and based on the accrued interest it would wipe out the Fed to pay it back. Then they rope in “investors” who have a minimum buy-in of 100 dollars and are told they could increase their yield by a factor of 1000 percent or more once the “prosperity funds” are “Financed.”

Back in 1998 and thereafter I had the first of a series of contacts from people, sometimes in large numbers, telling me it was “urgent” that I get in by Friday, let’s say, or the “window” was going to close.

Then we found out that one of the perpetrators of a scam like this went to Federal court. He defended himself and actually laughed about what he had done. He told the judge that if people were dumb enough to believe him and send him money, they deserved to lose it and just bought themselves a valuable lesson. The judge did not agree. His followers then blamed the “Dark Illuminati” for this man ending up in prison. This all happened about a decade ago now.

So I don’t like the fact that this document provides no structure as to how Neil Keenan would distribute the equity in the event it is transferred to him. The statement they gave Fulford on his typepad blog blames the world’s problems on “Jewish bankers,” which is not what Fulford agrees with and this poses another problem, as it is clearly untrue. It clouds the legitimacy of this legal instrument for one of its principals to be publicly saying that it is a suit against “Jewish bankers.”

All that being said, I have direct insider knowledge of how the Bretton Woods / international banking system really works. There is a LOT of info in this document that is accurate about how the system runs and is NOT public. In fact, I was told never to type in certain keywords online as it will get the SEC tracking you as someone who “knows”. I do believe this is true.

There is no question that the BRICS alliance [Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa] is rising up against the Old World Order. There is no question that they are planning on launching their own financial system. There is no question that a large number of underground bases have been completely cleared of materiel and personnel as of the end of September.

I have direct insider confirmation that the Monaco Colloquium did take place. Many things Fulford has said corroborate very nicely with what my own insiders have shared with me and I did not make public. This has happened so many times as to be dazzling. The China’s October Surprise story I’ve been documenting on my website divinecosmos.com is heavily backed by provable evidence of stunning equipment failures and bizarre events, like mass bird and fish deaths around the world apparently due to HAARP being used as a defense.

Let’s also not forget that my insiders told me the 50 ICBMs that were powered down in Wyoming in October 2010 were hit by a UFO, and then Robert Hastings revealed that following July that a cigar-shaped metallic ship was seen hovering over the base for hours as this took place.

So, my point is that something real is going on here. I do not want to definitively conclude that this new legal document is fraudulent. It is too early to tell and copying from Wikipedia is not a damning indictment. However, others with more legal acumen than me may decide to pursue this and see how well it holds up under further examination.

I told Ben it is possible that he has been the target of a DDT (Decoy, Distract and Trash) campaign. Simply put, we have extensive evidence BRICS is turning against the Old World Order. Fulford himself has bonafide contacts with insiders that give him information that extensively corroborates what I’ve heard from insiders as well… a pool of people that I gained access to, in part, due to my connections with Project Camelot. Their connection to insiders is easily provable with all the videos they have released, featuring live interviews with them.

If this is a DDT campaign, the idea would be to possibly even take it so far as to start soliciting “investments” in a “prosperity program” so that some people get excited and expect to be rich, whereas everyone else thinks it’s a total ripoff. Then it would appear that’s all there is to the story.

However, I must say that this is a hyper-complex legal document. It does not have grammatical errors (I found one) and is highly intricate. It also names many people by their full name and gives detailed allegations. The effort it would take to fake something of this complexity would be vast. If it were a scam to make money, why put Wikipedia quotes in the document that people would find almost immediately? If someone went to this much trouble just to try to rip off unsuspecting Internet “investors,” then I would expect them to do more.

Movies like Thrive are putting the truth in black and white. I consider the release of that film to be a seminal event in world history, even though I would have done it differently in certain ways. There is an entire hour, from about 38 minutes to 1:37, in which an airtight, damning indictment of New World Order / Illuminati material is given. I think the people who attack and hate on this movie are probably doing so because they are severely traumatized by being hit with so much information about the real nature of the world in that one-hour burst of time.

In this case, we know the document had to be written by a lawyer or someone intimately familiar with legal structure. I’ve been through many contracts in my work and this document is very intricate. It’s an awful lot of work to do just to hopefully rip off a few thousand people at best, although if some “investors” gave 10K or more, you could potentially become a millionaire from something like this. It has been done before and is still being done now. The people who get roped into these things believe it with religious fervor and you cannot tell them otherwise.

Again, though, this document has powerful insider knowledge that is not public. It aligns very nicely with a variety of things I’ve heard about and have not published. It clearly aligns with data that Fulford has independently obtained from witnesses firsthand.

If this lawsuit were to be taken seriously on the world stage, the ensuing discussion could pry open many doors. We do need to follow up regarding the legal firm that is cited in the document… are they a real firm, do they have a history, do they affirm the validity of the document. We need to verify that this was actually filed as a civil suit and get the dedicated link that proves it, from an official site. So far pacer.gov does not have it on record.

Again, I am not drawing definitive conclusions at this point, but I cannot publicly support this as a valid document. Fulford admitted that the “OITC” is fraudulent and that raises many questions, as it is referred to extensively in the document.

There is still excitement and sizzle in this story for me because the document may have been deliberately created to LOOK LIKE it was nothing more than a scam. Think about it. If insiders created something like this, what could it do?

Every insider I know says that the big game is always that “the truth is sandwiched between two lies.” There is Pavlovian-type research that shows that if you give a dog two opposing pieces of information strongly enough, so the dog has no idea which one is correct, it actually will go into seizures and ultimately die of a heart attack.

This is THE most classic mind-control / disinformation tactic there is. You can see it every time UFOs are written about or presented in mainstream media. They give you interesting info that is likely true, but then end it with skeptical dismissive statements that make it seem likely false.

They ALWAYS have to work this way. Any time there is something out there that is true, that they don’t want you to know, they have to fight that truth by putting out something that discredits it. The best way to do this is to embed the information you don’t want people to know directly into the mechanism you then use to destroy it.

In this case, if the document Fulford posted is a total fraud, then its purpose would be to rope people in for a period of time, get them all excited, and then at a certain point someone pops the balloon and everyone who believed it is humiliated. The average person now says “Fulford is totally full of $#!+ and this whole thing was a lie. Everything was a lie. No one is going to save us. The Illuminati are still in control. WHY GOD, WHYYYYY?!!?”

That’s the game. They want you to be disgusted, horrified and hopeless. Fulford is a marvelous antidote to the fear porn that dominates the alternative conspiracy media and I support him and his work. That’s why I took the time and studied this as if it were a contract I myself was reviewing for a potential signature as a binding agreement.

Fulford has accepted my interview invitation, so there is more to come. He knows these are the types of questions I’m going to be asking. More will be revealed. I do believe that “where there is smoke, there is fire,” and we are heading into some very interesting and very positive events. This document may be a highly sophisticated way to cloud the truth with disinformation and attempt to completely destroy Fulford, his career and his credibility.

So again… I personally do not support this document as legitimate unless compelling new information addresses the inconsistencies. However, I have no trouble believing it is an insider creation that neatly matches the truth and could be intended to distract and derail an international effort to bring these perpetrators to justice.

And justice will be served. You cannot run a “secret evil government” when everyone knows about it. Thrive [the movie] [or here or here] is the proof that it is now only a matter of time before it all unravels, and as soon as BRICS’ squeeze play on the Western economies makes them collapse (my insiders are saying they are trying to hold this off until Spring) then we will see all sorts of things happen quickly.

I highly encourage you to maintain a positive attitude and not give into fear. One of the cornerstones of my work is that our thoughts are not private — they influence the world around us. That has now been proven in my book The Source Field Investigations beyond any reasonable doubt, with extensive, verifiable scientific evidence.

From this body of data, we can demonstrate that there is a severely disproportionate positive effect upon our world when people think positively as opposed to negatively. That’s why seven thousand people were able to reduce worldwide terrorism by seven percent, simply by meditating as a group.

THIS is actually the real secret. The occult groups have to keep us feeling tired, weary, hopeless and miserable, because otherwise we create changes in the world that dismantle their power structures. It’s all part of a shared, subconscious connection we have to each other that influences our thoughts, decisions and behaviors.

So please don’t let my criticisms of this document make you feel hopeless. If this was “built to fail” I highly doubt they expected it to unravel this quickly. I do not see it as a negative. Someone went to a great deal of trouble to put this together. If it is totally legit, that is a fantastic thing for the planet. I have no difficulty with supporting it if it turns out to be true.

What I do want to stress, again, is that this is all ultimately a battle for hearts and minds. Your heart. Your mind. How do you feel? Are you confident and optimistic about the future? Or, do you feel despondent, wiped out, paranoid and fearful? That is the choice that is before you each and every moment of each and every day. What thoughts will you take? Do you support love or fear?

Choose.

- David

[onawah]

Whatever may come of this debate, I can certainly agree with this:


One of the cornerstones of my work is that our thoughts are not private — they influence the world around us. That has now been proven in my book The Source Field Investigations beyond any reasonable doubt, with extensive, verifiable scientific evidence.

From this body of data, we can demonstrate that there is a severely disproportionate positive effect upon our world when people think positively as opposed to negatively. That’s why seven thousand people were able to reduce worldwide terrorism by seven percent, simply by meditating as a group.

THIS is actually the real secret. The occult groups have to keep us feeling tired, weary, hopeless and miserable, because otherwise we create changes in the world that dismantle their power structures. It’s all part of a shared, subconscious connection we have to each other that influences our thoughts, decisions and behaviors.

So please don’t let my criticisms of this document make you feel hopeless. If this was “built to fail” I highly doubt they expected it to unravel this quickly. I do not see it as a negative. Someone went to a great deal of trouble to put this together. If it is totally legit, that is a fantastic thing for the planet. I have no difficulty with supporting it if it turns out to be true.

What I do want to stress, again, is that this is all ultimately a battle for hearts and minds. Your heart. Your mind. How do you feel? Are you confident and optimistic about the future? Or, do you feel despondent, wiped out, paranoid and fearful? That is the choice that is before you each and every moment of each and every day. What thoughts will you take? Do you support love or fear?

[Lord Sidious]

Thanks for that post Zillah.
Wilcock should stick to what he knows and leave law alone.
If there is an express or implied trust, then that trust would retain the cause of action that entitles it to a remedy for the theft of the negotiable instruments that this case is about.
Keenan has that right to a remedy as a trustee, not on his own standing alone.
Secondly, distributing the funds isn't a big deal, that is entirely what the Private Placement Programmes are about and that would be a separate agreement to anything we see here and being private, it isn't in the public domain.
For me, I wouldn't care that someone copied a definition from wiki word for word.
If I needed to do it, I would.

[Dennis Leahy]

Reporting back that this filing has NOT shown up on in Pacer yet... We will keep looking...

Much love :luv:

Hello Kimberley,

So, did it show up today (Monday, Nov 28th)?

Dennis

[jackovesk]

Thanks for that post Zillah.
Wilcock should stick to what he knows and leave law alone.
If there is an express or implied trust, then that trust would retain the cause of action that entitles it to a remedy for the theft of the negotiable instruments that this case is about.
Keenan has that right to a remedy as a trustee, not on his own standing alone.
Secondly, distributing the funds isn't a big deal, that is entirely what the Private Placement Programmes are about and that would be a separate agreement to anything we see here and being private, it isn't in the public domain.
For me, I wouldn't care that someone copied a definition from wiki word for word.
If I needed to do it, I would.


David Wilcock: "What thoughts will you take? Do you support love or fear?

Choose."

That's a 'Given' David - Love will always conquer Fear..!

I know that this won't go down well here...(Oh Well)..!

I'll say it anyway...

I'm more inclined to believe what Ben Fulford has to say, moreso than David Wilcock..!

:behindsofa:

[Aetheric Traveler]

This is the kind of story and misinformation that goes along with it that forms the basis of high-level Perceptioneering to discredit any belief in something that guilty "someones" are trying secretly to cover up.

Consider this scenario: Bad Guy 1 is a criminal and a lawsuit is filed by Not-So-Bad-Bad-Guy 1 to expose him for taking advantage of NSBBG1 during their combined crimimal activities.

NSBBG1 succeeds in creating the filing in a major court, however, just as soon as it is filed, BG1 uses his influence to "remove and expunge" any evidence that NSBBG1 has filed a complaint.

NSBBG1 is threatened so successfully and/or so effectively removed from the game that he is now powerless to do anything about BG1, but the word got out that NSBBG1 had filed the complaint.

Naturally, all of the people who want "confirmation" are going to look in the system which is controlled by BG1 for proof but BG1 is going to make sure nothing is there. However, BG1 is going to circulate even more rumors that NSBBG1 has filed the complaint in order to have people "look" for the proof, not find it and then discredit NSBBG1 even further. This effectively makes "find-the-proofers" stop looking, which is just what BG1 wants.

QUESTION: How would you know if it (the complaint) was quickly stopped by the "powers that be" at some high level?

I am reminded of the ending of the movie "3 Days of the Condor". Just when you think the whistleblower is going to bring justice and truth to light by telling everything to the big city newspaper, the chief for the bad guys puts the perspective on the situation about the newspaper spilling the story when he (played by Cliff Robertson) asks Condor, "What makes you sure they'll print it?".

Expecting thieves that are all in the same boat to convict each other of stealing a blind man's water is like expecting Dracula not to drink the blood of a baby left on his doorstep.

Cheers,
AT

[GlassSteagallfan]

The law office listed is real.

William H. Mulligan, Jr.
Bleakley Platt & Schmidt, LLP
One North Lexington Avenue
White Plains, NY 10601
(914) 949-2700

Web site: http://bpslaw.com/

Whitepages info:

Bleakely Platt & Schmidt
1 N Lexington Ave Ste 700
White Plains, NY 10601

(203) 422-5050
(914) 287-6100

Hours:
Sun: Closed
Mon: 9:00am-5:00pm
Tue: 9:00am-5:00pm
Wed: 9:00am-5:00pm
Thu: 9:00am-5:00pm
Fri: 9:00am-5:00pm
Sat: Closed

[araucaria]

Just on this single point of quoting Wikipedia.

The very fact that we find it unreliable in the controversial areas we are interested in is one very good reason for finding it an excellent source for this sort of use. The material has been passed by the other side, which is exactly what you want.

[Kimberley]

I felt all along that the Neil F. Keenan, 11 Civ 8500 case filling was true and now I have the proof I just called William H. Mulligan, Jr.
Bleakley Platt & Schmidt, LLP and he stated in an audio recording that the case was filed on November 23, 2011

I will be back with more in a little while I have a show that starts in 10 minutes I will play the recording on my show...
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/belovenow/2011/11/29/living-in-the-now

Much Love :luv:

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Did any of you see the movie Syriana with George Clooney (political thriller). Not a great movie, but I think accurate. Bottom line was there are so many agents who are double agents and triple agents that no one's sure any more who is on what team.

The man Headley (sp?) who masterminded the Mumbai incident back in 2008 was an american agent who turned double agent to work for the Pakistani's. He's now being held waiting for trial in an undisclosed place. I wouldn't be surprised if instead the US Govt is again using him as an agent.

Our world has become very convoluted and complicated on so many levels that it's difficult to understand the fine points of what's happening.

Even if this is a real lawsuit ~ it could just be a frivolous lawsuit. Can't you sue for anything in this country, doesn't mean it has merit or actually happened. I don't know what the penalty of a frivolous lawsuit is (or if there is one) but it could be worth it to some to complicate and confuse public opinion.

Think about it: If this proves to be a real lawsuit ( even though frivolous, which we wouldn't know) many would now hang on Fulford's every word and they could feed him some real diversionary stuff.

[Muzz]

I felt all along that the Neil F. Keenan, 11 Civ 8500 case filling was true and now I have the proof I just called William H. Mulligan, Jr.
Bleakley Platt & Schmidt, LLP and he stated in an audio recording that the case was filed on November 23, 2011

I will be back with more in a little while I have a show that starts in 10 minutes I will play the recording on my show...
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/belovenow/2011/11/29/living-in-the-now

Much Love :luv:

Many thanks for keeping us updated Kimberly.

[Kimberley]

Ok back at you....

I sent the mp3 audio link of the audio statement from William H. Mulligan, Jr. Bleakley Platt & Schmidt to David Wilcock. David did an hour and a half interview with Ben Fullford last night and he will be posting it tonight or tomorrow. David said it is a great interview and Fullford revealed some things that David did not know...so keep an eye out for it.

So we now have confirmation that the case was filed. Mr Mulligan suggested that a copy of the case would also be available for the asking directly at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. He also said the case will show up on pacer.gov sooner than later...and be sure to know I will continue to watch that also.

So as has been stated already where this all goes is yet to be seen...however I know this is a big story and it is fun to be watching it play out with all of us paying attention.

Much love to us all always in all ways.... :luv:

[onawah]

Kudos to you, Kimberly! The right woman in the right place at the right time!
:cheer2: :rockon: :high5: :angel: :first: :thumb: :yes4:

[jp11]

My gosh, what a fantastic group of people here. All these different points of view, plus a willingness to share with the rest of us (like myself) that don't have access to all the different aspects of a story. I love it! I thank you all for keeping me informed.

I stated in another thread, can't remember which one, that I believe everything tracks back to either love or fear...and for me love has it in spades.

Exciting times in spite of the $hit that tptb/tptw is trying to send our way. We're now pretty savvy to their game plan and it don't work so well for 'em anymore. :focus:

jp :hippie:

[KosmicKat]

As a side note, why do you think we now have the internet, which the U.S. Government would like at least to be able to censor? We are proceeding inexorably through changes that have long been foreseen. This process will not end on December 21st, 2012 but I believe that day will mark the cusp. Now, depending on your view of how we are doing, either fasten your safety harness or spread your wings.

[Kimberley]

FYI The case showed up on pacer.gov today

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=223093

Much love :luv:

[Muzz]

Thanks Kimberly

Heres the post

Reader J. (thanks, J. :) now reports he checked the PACER system today after having checked it for us yesterday - and today, Keenan's filing can be found in the system, identified as:

Case 1:11-cv-08500-JFK Document 1 Filed 11/23/11

Reader J. also sent along a PDF of the filing (114 pages) downloaded via PACER, essentially identical to the one provided by Keenan on the 24th that is available through a link in the above-referenced post.

--hobie

It would help if we could corroborate this with a screen shot or another source.

[onawah]

This isn't quite on topic, but it looks like a related, promising development


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/citigroup-settlement-sec-judge-jed-rakoff_n_1119029.html

When federal judge Jed Rakoff tossed out a proposed settlement between the Securities and Exchange Commission and banking giant Citigroup on Monday, he signaled to both the SEC and the nation’s largest financial institutions that the two parties can no longer snuggle up together in cozy settlements that enable misbehaving banks to pay a fine for their bad deeds without ever requiring the institutions to admit wrongdoing.

According to some legal professionals, Judge Rakoff’s decision could be a game-changer, requiring the SEC to really step up to the plate in terms of enforcement.

“If the SEC expects to be suing investment banks in the future — and I know they do — this creates a real problem for them if they have to justify their settlements in some detail,” said Adam C. Pritchard, a law professor at the University of Michigan Law School.

Judge Rakoff, a Clinton appointee who serves the southern district of New York, wrote in his decision that the SEC’s “long-standing policy, hallowed by history but not by reason,” of allowing financial institutions to avoid admitting guilt betrays the public interest — both individual investors and society at large — by leaving the question of what really happened unaddressed. As long as the bank does not have to acknowledge the facts, the truth remains unknown.

Robert Khuzami, director of enforcement at the SEC, said in a public statement that Judge Rakoff’s ruling “ignores decades of established practice throughout federal agencies and decisions of the federal courts.”

But Pritchard asserts that it is exactly this history that Judge Rakoff is challenging. “These settlements have traditionally been an easy way out for the SEC. It’s been the agency’s way of putting the financial institutions on notice, of saying, ‘This is how we think the industry should behave, and if you don’t want to get in trouble with us, you will do it the way we think you should do it, as represented by the settlement.’ Judge Rakoff is saying that he thinks it’s time to figure out what the law is, what the obligations are for these banks.”

Though Judge Rakoff is only one man in one federal court, he is an especially important judge in the world of finance because his district includes Manhattan. “Cases against large financial institutions tend to be brought in Manhattan because that’s where a huge number of the large financial institutions are headquartered,” Pritchard explained.

The ruling will likely affect others, as well. “Generally, Judge Rakoff is considered a very thoughtful, well-respected judge, so certainly judges all over the country are going to look at this and think about what he has said,” said Daniel Berger, a securities lawyer who has worked on similar cases.

Others are less certain of the decision’s long-term significance. “This is not a binding legal precedent,” said John C. Coffee Jr., a Columbia University law professor and friend of Rakoff’s. “Judge Rakoff is not ruling that in all cases the defendant has to admit or deny the allegations. What’s he’s saying [to the SEC] is that they haven’t done enough. This is a rejection of a first offered agreement. There may well be a sweetened agreement.”

This is not the first time Judge Rakoff has thrown out an SEC settlement. In 2009, he dismissed a proposed settlement between the SEC and Bank of America that would have required the bank to pay a $33 million fine for the $3.6 billion the bank paid out in executive bonuses after acquiring Merrill Lynch and shortly before receiving federal bailout funds. In that case, Rakoff argued that the financial penalties were too small in relation to the crime, and eventually agreed to a $150 million fine instead.

“This is just the Bank of America ruling all over again,” said Coffee, “with the judge being a little stiffer and a little more determined.”

In the immediate term, it’s unclear what will happen next, as the SEC declined to comment beyond its public statement. Regarding the specific Citigroup case, Judge Rakoff has ordered both the SEC and the bank to prepare to go to trial in July 2012. It’s possible that the SEC would try to appeal Judge Rakoff’s decision, but that could prove challenging as the appeals court would have to agree to hear the case, said Berger.

Alternatively, the SEC could proceed with a trial, but that could also prove problematic for the agency. “These cases against financial institutions are wickedly hard to win at the end of the day because in most cases you have to actually show fraudulent intent,” said Michael Perino, a law professor at St. John’s University. “When you have teams of advisors, lawyers and everybody else saying that the firm complies with the various rules and regulations they’re subject to, defense attorneys are often able to show that the firm acted in good faith. So, the SEC’s perspective is ‘well, we could bring far fewer cases and have more trials and run the risk that we’re going to lose a fair number of those trials, or we can bring more cases and get settlements and have at least some deterrent effect.’”

While it’s too early to accurately predict the implication of the decision on future SEC settlements, it’s clear that Judge Rakoff has gone beyond just firing a warning shot to the federal agency whose job is to be the cop on the beat on Wall Street.

As Coffee explained, “What Judge Rakoff is saying is that if the SEC continues to bring these cases, the agency becomes not a watchdog but a yapping small dog incapable of biting.”

[Zillah]

David Wilcock adds a comment to Ben’s recent post . . . thanks DrinkDeep
Posted on November 30, 2011
update from Ben’s (by David W):

Another significant development. I called the main attorney on this case and he knew who I was. He said he would ‘perhaps’ talk to me later. I then wrote him an email on their website and told him if this was a fraud perpetrated against him, I would help him quickly put it to an end.

Right after I sent this out, I got an email from a female radio show host who had called him and gotten a call back, which she recorded and presented to me as an MP3. In this call, a man with the same voice I had just heard identified himself as William Mulligan, of Bleakley Platt and Schmidt, and confirmed that 11civ8500 had been filed by him and his firm as a civil complaint.

Amazing! I am hoping to get an interview with Mulligan, but this story has now become vastly more substantiated. I will tag my brief discussion with the radio host onto the end of the MP3 that will be released.

- David
Comment by dwilcock on November 30, 2011 @ 4:41 am



Daivd Wilcock speaks again – thanks to DrinkDeep
Posted on December 1, 2011


Dear Cafe Members,

I would like to formally apologize to Ben Fulford and to Neil Keenan for how I talked about this case in my initial post.

It is certainly OK to be skeptical and to conduct your own investigation. However, at that point I so believed I was right that I didn’t even stop to consider that this might actually be a real case.

Now that I’ve interviewed Fulford, spoken to the prosecuting attorney and to Keenan, I realize I came across too harshly in the original letter.

Specifically I said that if the cited parties were to murder Keenan, they could potentially make the problem go away.

Obviously this is a real danger, and I never would have written it up that way if, at the time, I’d believed it was true. Now that I have confirmed the validity of the filing, I wish to apologize for how nonchalantly I spoke about such a sensitive subject.

The interview transcript is complete and the posting should occur within the next 2 days. It was a lot of work! Whew.

- David
Comment by dwilcock on December 1, 2011 @ 10:03 am

[Muzz]

Many thanks ZIllah for the above post


Right after I sent this out, I got an email from a female radio show host who had called him and gotten a call back, which she recorded and presented to me as an MP3. In this call, a man with the same voice I had just heard identified himself as William Mulligan, of Bleakley Platt and Schmidt, and confirmed that 11civ8500 had been filed by him and his firm as a civil complaint.
and thanks to Kimberley.

[Kimberley]

Yes great find ZIllah Thank you...I am glad to see Davids apology...I am looking forward to hearing the interview...

Much Love ! :luv:

[mountain_jim]

I just read the complete David post prior to apology in the General Discussion thread. This subject is in threads across at least 3 forum areas. (also Current Events)

[Zillah]

Perhaps we should merge the threads - might make keeping track of everything easier... is this possible mods?? :D

These are exciting times! xo my Friends.

[Muzz]

This a question to anyone with knowledge of the American legal system. Whats the next stage for this lawsuit?

Am I right in saying that they have 21 days to respond? Then what?

[onawah]

While we wait to hear more, there is a nice speech from Dennis Kucinich here:
oUpXDZFtEHw

[Kimberley]

This a question to anyone with knowledge of the American legal system. Whats the next stage for this lawsuit?

Am I right in saying that they have 21 days to respond? Then what?

Hi Muzzz....
The first step is that the defendants need to be served with the summons and the complaint... but everything after that depends on who the defendant is ... if you were the defendant yes it would be 21 days..however such as in this case one of the defendants is the UN... so they may have 60 days to respond... I am not a lawyer but married to one for 25 years :-)...He has been advising me with my reporting of this story. So here is one of many links to the "Federal Rules of Civil Procedure" http://www.federalrulesofcivilprocedure.info/frcp/

much love :luv:

[Zillah]

Hey guys, going back a couple days but wanted to tac it onto this thread anyhow - some more info:

The Nov 23rd suit confirmed by David; update on the Asian gold situation
Here are some more comments from David on Nov 29th, to wit:

**Begin Quote**

Hey Cafe Members,

I just finished the interview with Fulford about an hour and 15 minutes ago and my brain is finally not aching anymore.

Ben talks really fast — and in order to intelligently participate at that speed, you have to actually listen to everything he says while also thinking of your next response, and/or looking at the big picture and trying to toss things in that will add to the discussion, and/or steer it in directions he may have overlooked.

As a result, what we have here is a commercial-free one-hour-and-40-minute tour-de-force… way more comprehensive than anything I’ve ever seen or heard before from Ben. I was able to get significant clarifications on a variety of things that were overlooked or had remained unmentioned in earlier postings.

Due to the extreme urgency of this, I’m going to transcribe it myself, which I can do almost at conversational speed. It could take 2-3 days to post but hopefully will be out by this weekend at the very latest.

We will soon have a much more robust view of Ben’s background and credentials, the scope of who he is talking to, the number of insiders he’s in contact with in a given week including where they’re from and what they do, his direct firsthand involvement with the Asian Secret Societies, et cetera.

In particular, it was amazing to track the gold. I was unaware of how the Asian families came into contact with this gold by trading silk, spices and china with the Romans, who invariably paid in gold — which they in turn had plundered from elsewhere.

Much of this gold — we’re talking seven Olympic-sized pools’ worth, if not more — was deliberately removed from the “official” financial system and blacklisted. Other gold was removed from China and brought to the US in 1938 on seven US destroyers, ostensibly to protect it from Japanese thieves — who apparently were working for the Rothschilds.

This gold is what is under dispute. Ben said we should be able to find magazine/newspaper records and other documented evidence of the transfer of this gold to the US for “safe keeping” in 1938. Apparently there was also a trial where the US returned a much smaller amount of gold and tried to say it was full payment due to appreciation of its interest value. This did not fly and they lost the case.

One surprising twist is that Ben said there is NO consensus right now as to when to do the mass arrests, or how to proceed. There are ideas. It seems clear that they are waiting for a “window” to arrive, and this window by necessity will involve things collapsing first, or at least getting worse than they are now.

I do hope they form a consensus and stick to the original plans for the mass arrests. However, they clearly do not want to do so until they have the right opportunity. This lawsuit is one, but not the only way in which they apparently are trying to open those doors.

I will do my part in transcribing and posting this interview to aid in the efforts of the just. I’ve barely even started to cover the scope of what we just went through.

- David

[Cottage Rose]

Hello my friends.... funny I have not been on line this morning so just found the Fullford report on facebook an hour ago...and before coming here to Avalon have spent the past hour searching for the case that Fullfor aledges was filed in New York by Neil Keenan.

.."The lawsuit has been filed as Civil Action #8500 at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on November 23, 2011."

My husband is an Attorny and he loged into Pacer.gov (a suscription service see below) and as of right this moment there is NO record of a case filed By Neil Keenan on November 23 2011. There are other cases filled by him on record , however the most recent case listed was filed in 1999.

This does not mean it was not filed although it is not on the record at this time. Today is a holiday and the courts are closed so perhaps it was not posted into the system yet. So I will keep checking ... Lets wait and see if it shows up tomorrow...

I am on the case about this...thats my job to find the proof ... So I will keep an eye on this and report back. If anyone else can find the proof I too am wanting to see it with my own eyes. I like Fullford..however ...

Much Love to us ALL!! :luv:


Thanks Kimberley;)

I applied for a Pacer account username and password to attempt to verify the complaint when I heard about this. I'm still waiting for my account to process. Knowing court systems, there is a definite possibility the complaint may not have been recorded in the system yet. I am anxious to find out.

[Cottage Rose]

Given IF this were true, what force and effect do they expect a civil suit will render? Civil and not criminal? Not to mention it's in the wrong court (as if any court was the right one)... should this not be in an international criminal tribunal of some kind? And who would enforce any action? What are they going to do, put a lien on Rockefeller Center?

I saw that Judge Holwell handles Federal Civil suits in the state of New York. And, I noticed he has some rather significant cases on his docket. As I recall, he was hearing a large complaint against Goldman Sachs.

[onawah]

Thanks so much to the legal minds here who are keeping us updated on this story.
Wouldn't it be amazing even just to find out half of what this whole story is about!
Even just for some of this info from Fulford to finally be verified would be great, so we will know he and we haven't been complete suckers...
But it sounds like--dare I say it?-- there really.... might...... actually..... be...... potential.... for.... something REAL.... happening here!!

But then, we are still waiting on hearing part 3 of DW's report on the alleged emptied DUMBS. :clock:
Though I hate to even mention that at this point. :tape2:
I sure wish I had a crystal ball so we wouldn't have to wait to find out if we are being duped :doh: yet again or not.
Frustrating! :frusty: :mad2: :gaah: :mamba:

[Kimberley]

Hello my friends.... funny I have not been on line this morning so just found the Fullford report on facebook an hour ago...and before coming here to Avalon have spent the past hour searching for the case that Fullfor aledges was filed in New York by Neil Keenan.

.."The lawsuit has been filed as Civil Action #8500 at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on November 23, 2011."

My husband is an Attorny and he loged into Pacer.gov (a suscription service see below) and as of right this moment there is NO record of a case filed By Neil Keenan on November 23 2011. There are other cases filled by him on record , however the most recent case listed was filed in 1999.

This does not mean it was not filed although it is not on the record at this time. Today is a holiday and the courts are closed so perhaps it was not posted into the system yet. So I will keep checking ... Lets wait and see if it shows up tomorrow...

I am on the case about this...thats my job to find the proof ... So I will keep an eye on this and report back. If anyone else can find the proof I too am wanting to see it with my own eyes. I like Fullford..however ...

Much Love to us ALL!! :luv:


Thanks Kimberley;)

I applied for a Pacer account username and password to attempt to verify the complaint when I heard about this. I'm still waiting for my account to process. Knowing court systems, there is a definite possibility the complaint may not have been recorded in the system yet. I am anxious to find out.

Hello dear sister Rose the case was filed and is now online and available on pacer.gov...

[Cottage Rose]

Hello my friends.... funny I have not been on line this morning so just found the Fullford report on facebook an hour ago...and before coming here to Avalon have spent the past hour searching for the case that Fullfor aledges was filed in New York by Neil Keenan.

.."The lawsuit has been filed as Civil Action #8500 at the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on November 23, 2011."

My husband is an Attorny and he loged into Pacer.gov (a suscription service see below) and as of right this moment there is NO record of a case filed By Neil Keenan on November 23 2011. There are other cases filled by him on record , however the most recent case listed was filed in 1999.

This does not mean it was not filed although it is not on the record at this time. Today is a holiday and the courts are closed so perhaps it was not posted into the system yet. So I will keep checking ... Lets wait and see if it shows up tomorrow...

I am on the case about this...thats my job to find the proof ... So I will keep an eye on this and report back. If anyone else can find the proof I too am wanting to see it with my own eyes. I like Fullford..however ...

Much Love to us ALL!! :luv:


Thanks Kimberley;)

I applied for a Pacer account username and password to attempt to verify the complaint when I heard about this. I'm still waiting for my account to process. Knowing court systems, there is a definite possibility the complaint may not have been recorded in the system yet. I am anxious to find out.

Hello dear sister Rose the case was filed and is now online and available on pacer.gov...

I was behind in the thread. Just listened to your radio conversation with Atty Mulligan. Great work!

[Kimberley]

Thanks so much to the legal minds here who are keeping us updated on this story.
Wouldn't it be amazing even just to find out half of what this whole story is about!
Even just for some of this info from Fulford to finally be verified would be great, so we will know he and we haven't been complete suckers...
But it sounds like--dare I say it?-- there really.... might...... actually..... be...... potential.... for.... something REAL.... happening here!!

But then, we are still waiting on hearing part 3 of DW's report on the alleged emptied DUMBS. :clock:
Though I hate to even mention that at this point. :tape2:
I sure wish I had a crystal ball so we wouldn't have to wait to find out if we are being duped :doh: yet again or not.
Frustrating! :frusty: :mad2: :gaah: :mamba:

Hello onawah... I am pretty sure that when David W posts the Fullford interview that he is not going to " report on the alleged emptied DUMBS. " (And I could be wrong) I spent 25 minutes on the phone with him on Tuesday afternoon...and that was not were he was focused... he will get there when he gets there.. that is how he operates.. all in good time.. David also said that he was going to post the Fulflord interview on Wednesday and today is Thursday night and not yet posted.... it is what it is... I love David and I love you and I love us ALL@@ :luv:

[jp11]

I just have to say again...thanks to all of you who are updating us with the latest info. Amazing! I so much appreciate it. :thank_you2:

So pleased I am privy to this forum. I got sidetracked last night on another thread...dare I say which one...:rolleyes: even went in late to work today by about 2.5 hours because I stayed up way too late trying to get to the end of it. Jeeeeeesh. :dizzy:

Looking forward to David W's interview for more info. :wave:

[Kimberley]

I just have to say again...thanks to all of you who are updating us with the latest info. Amazing! I so much appreciate it. :thank_you2:

So pleased I am privy to this forum. I got sidetracked last night on another thread...dare I say which one...:rolleyes: even went in late to work today by about 2.5 hours because I stayed up way too late trying to get to the end of it. Jeeeeeesh. :dizzy:

Looking forward to David W's interview for more info. :wave:

Hahahah jp11 so you too got sucked into the "not to be mentioned" thread and were late to work hahhha I am not laughing at you but laughing with you :-) I had a lot of laughs following that thread...

As far as this Thread glad you and everyone else is/are here and appreciating the importance of this case!!

Much love to us all :luv:

[araucaria]

UNless I'm mistaken no one has reported on Rayelan's (Rumormill) personal take on this in "The revealing TRUTH and timeline behind Neil Keenan's disinformation and defamation attacks against OITC" (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=223210).

On Neil Keenan: "I think he is a low level player with a very large ego. I suspect that even Ben Fulford will soon realize that he has been sucked into something that he really didn't understand and he will try to save his reputation as best he can."

"The revealing TRUTH and timeline behind Neil Keenan's disinformation and defamation attacks against OITC (Office of International Treasury Control). On 11/23/11 Neil Keenan filed a fallacious civil suit complaint and is using Ben Fulford, Rumor Mill News, and David Wilcock, etc as his disinformation and distribution tag team channels."

As she admits, no one knows what is really going on. Maybe that is the point A system meltdown is by definition not something that anyone is in control of.

[mountain_jim]

If Rayelan of Rumormill is defending OITC, then that lowers her credibility in my book and does not hurt David's and Fulford's. OITC's web-site does a pretty good job of removing any OITC credibility by itself.

On the whole, I will keep an open mind and await further developments.

Thanks to all you contributors - this forum has some deep resources of knowledgable and aware beings, all of us trying to further awaken and share.

[Kimberley]

UNless I'm mistaken no one has reported on Rayelan's (Rumormill) personal take on this in "The revealing TRUTH and timeline behind Neil Keenan's disinformation and defamation attacks against OITC" (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=223210).


Great find araucaria thanks... I just want to note that David W and Ben F have nothing to do with "the" case they were just reporting that it had been filed... as soon as Ben F reported it the important thing was wanting to have the proof that it was indeed filed and the proof it was filed came to light on Tuesday.

Whether it is a "fallacious civil suit" is yet to be seen, however I do not think that a law firm that was founded in 1937 http://www.bpslaw.com/firm.html or a long standing partner of the firm, William H. Mulligan, Jr. , http://www.bpslaw.com/bio-william-mulligan.html would be associated with this case if they deemed it "fallacious". Do you?

Much love :luv:

[onawah]

Thanks Kimberly.
I realize this new issue takes priority, but they are both important in my view, and to many others, I am sure.
I was just venting some frustration.
Things are really heating up now, and at 63, I've waited for so long for all this to finally unfold so we can get to the other side of it at last.
David Wilcock has my full sympathy. He is playing a very pivotal role in this disclosure movement, and I respect him highly for his willingness to do that.
I send him lots of support and good wishes for his well-being and success.
Given the mess our world is in, evinced by the financial meltdown, it only highlights the importance of the question as to how much are we really being helped by the ETs.
I have no doubt we are being helped, but I would rest easier knowing they would actually go to the extent of eliminating TPTW's hideouts from the equation.
It would also inform us as to what desperate lengths TPTW will be willing to go to now on the financial front if that story about the DUMBs is proven true.
And whether Obama feels supported enough to actually veto S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act as he has threatened to do may be a good indicator too.
Thanks again for your help in keeping us up to date and informed. :love: :grouphug: :hug: :wub:

BTW, if you haven't looked at the "thread that is not to be named" recently, Daft Ada has come clean with some info that really sheds a lot of light on the main issues, and I think it can finally all be laid to rest now.
Except for those who just WANT to keep on arguing, :fans: of course.... :lol: That's on page 35 (!!) of the not-to-be-named thread.



Thanks so much to the legal minds here who are keeping us updated on this story.
Wouldn't it be amazing even just to find out half of what this whole story is about!
Even just for some of this info from Fulford to finally be verified would be great, so we will know he and we haven't been complete suckers...
But it sounds like--dare I say it?-- there really.... might...... actually..... be...... potential.... for.... something REAL.... happening here!!

But then, we are still waiting on hearing part 3 of DW's report on the alleged emptied DUMBS.
Though I hate to even mention that at this point.
I sure wish I had a crystal ball so we wouldn't have to wait to find out if we are being duped yet again or not.
Frustrating! :

Hello onawah... I am pretty sure that when David W posts the Fullford interview that he is not going to " report on the alleged emptied DUMBS. " (And I could be wrong) I spent 25 minutes on the phone with him on Tuesday afternoon...and that was not were he was focused... he will get there when he gets there.. that is how he operates.. all in good time.. David also said that he was going to post the Fulflord interview on Wednesday and today is Thursday night and not yet posted.... it is what it is... I love David and I love you and I love us ALL@@ :luv:

[Kimberley]

This is a copy of the actual court
docket, downloaded via Pacer a few minutes ago...

[Cottage Rose]

Hi Kimberley ;)

Did your husband download this himself from Pacer, or is it from the web?

I notice this document lists the Judge's name as Keenan, instead of Holwell. I did a search and learned there is a Judge John F Keenan in the New York Southern District. But, it is a coincidence for the Plaintiff and the Judge to have the same last name.

Thanks!

[Kimberley]

Hi Kimberley ;)

Did your husband download this himself from Pacer, or is it from the web?

I notice this document lists the Judge's name as Keenan, instead of Holwell. I did a search and learned there is a Judge John F Keenan in the New York Southern District. But, it is a coincidence for the Plaintiff and the Judge to have the same last name.

Thanks!

Yes Rose it was downloaded from pacer...note the time stamp on the top of the page....

And yes I noticed the same thing Judge John F. Keenan JFK hmmmm

Rose have you read the whole case yet? I have not I read several of the first pages and then skimmed through it.. It is on my list to finish reading it this weekend...

I would love to know others comments/thoughts on the case..

Much :luv:

[Cottage Rose]

Hi Kimberley ;)

Did your husband download this himself from Pacer, or is it from the web?

I notice this document lists the Judge's name as Keenan, instead of Holwell. I did a search and learned there is a Judge John F Keenan in the New York Southern District. But, it is a coincidence for the Plaintiff and the Judge to have the same last name.

Thanks!

Yes Rose it was downloaded from pacer...note the time stamp on the top of the page....

And yes I noticed the same thing Judge John F. Keenan JFK hmmmm

Rose have you read the whole case yet? I have not I read several of the first pages and then skimmed through it.. It is on my list to finish reading it this weekend...

I would love to know others comments/thoughts on the case..

Much :luv:

Thanks!!

I got my PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records) username/password in the mail today and verified it, too.

My search link: https://pcl.uscourts.gov/view?rid=ckVQEXjo7egWIETc19WCDY6sjhHwMdVljWTOAjGj&page=1

I did read over the entire complaint, but I am going to it read again more closely now.
I am so happy to know it has been filed. :party:

Have you heard any more news about the new Fulford/Wilcock interview?

Luv back to you!

[onawah]

I would also love to hear anything more you might be able to share on that subject.
Thanks! :dance: (<-- dancing in anticipation!) :lol:

[/QUOTE]Have you heard any more news about the new Fulford/Wilcock interview?[/QUOTE]

[Kimberley]

I would also love to hear anything more you might be able to share on that subject.
Thanks! :dance: (<-- dancing in anticipation!) :lol:

Have you heard any more news about the new Fulford/Wilcock interview?[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Hey Rose... For the record I am a bit disappointed that David did his interview Monday night and has not posted it as of yet.. but he will when he does hehehe...
I have been in direct e-mail & phone contact with David and he will post when he is ready...
I too am waiting with baited breath to hear the interview....
Much love :luv:

[onawah]

Thanks so much Kimberly!
You are the kind of person who helps make this forum special. :angel::love::luv::cheer2:
We could use a red letter day here on Avalon, and I am hoping David will be able to provide it with the new interview and the 3rd article on the DUMBs.

[Zillah]

Hmm well the weekend is almost officially over and no post from DW -- no updates on his forum or on other sources I've been checking - I hope all is ok, perhaps the delay is in ironing out the details, I'm sure he'll want to get this one right.

Still waiting in anticipation!!! <3

[onawah]

Agreed. Better to get all the facts straight than do it in haste and then have to back up.


I'm sure he'll want to get this one right.<3

[Kimberley]

WOW!!!!!! I found this thread posted by Viking this morning please check it out if you have not seen it..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36076----INTEL-UPDATE----30-Days-to-Showtime

Great find Viking!!!! This is fabulous!!! I have been listening..and looking for the source of this information.

I found the direct source...

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2011/12/must-hear-phone-recording.html

"Fran a whistle-blower discusses the current state of affairs occurring in the United States and around the World. He updates listeners about the coming arrests of major public figures in the political, financial, and corporate arenas. FRAN talks about the coming collapse of the corrupted financial markets, free energy technologies, medical cures for cancer and other major health problems, White Dragon Society, Prosperity Programs, Federal Reserve, IRS, Government Corruption, Currency Revaluation of Iraqi Dinar, President Obama and his role in the coming political changes and much more. If it is to hard to believe it will be at least an entertaining moment of your time. Otherwise if this is true, it will be an exciting time for humanity. This discussion took place on November 29th, 2011 on Midnight Think Tank." "If you never heard of this type of information than I suggest a visit to www.ascensionwithearth.com , as it contains updates from about what is actually happening behind the public scenes. The blog presents information for individuals to start researching the coming changes happening to mother earth and humanity. Enjoy the ride!"

I have many comments that I am going to add to this thread and will be back later with them...

I will leave you all with this reminder... You are all powerful creators...Please please please remember this NOW!!! Your thoughts, emotions and words create! So PLEASE chose them consciously and very carefully!!! Chose Love not fear. Please keep your sights on what you envision for the world!!!

oh and PLEASE BELIEVE!!!!

Ok I'll be back later with more... oh and by the way I had a powerful dream last night that confirmed all of this for me yet again :dance: ...

Much love to us all :luv: and thank you for being here creating the new earth!!!
:dance3: Congratulations we are doing it Whoo WHooo!!! :dance3:

[Zillah]

I will leave you all with this reminder... You are all powerful creators...Please please please remember this NOW!!! Your thoughts, emotions and words create! So PLEASE chose them consciously and very carefully!!! Chose Love not fear. Please keep your sights on what you envision for the world!!!

oh and PLEASE BELIEVE!!!!


NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE, what is keeping us LOCKED in is the mere thought that we cannot be free. In an infinite universe, knowing I can exist primarily from any aspect of myself, I choose something like NESARA - however I will look at this with no definition so the universe can give us something EVEN BETTER THAN THIS.

<3

[onawah]

Since one of the first things mentioned was NESARA "prosperity packages", I tuned it out. That is one of the oldest scams around.
Good news is certainly welcome, but it must be something more credible than that to qualify.

[YvonneG]

Greetings Everyone,

I have been following this thread for a few days now and only just now got approved to post. I was going to share the midnightthinktank.com but someone beat me to it.

I have been following Ben Fulford from the first tiem I discovered him on Project Camelot. I tend to feel he is saying alot of what is so. One thing I know for sure, is that about 3 weeks he said the media was going to start reporting things and it did and still is.

As for the Nesara thing, I have heard it was scam. But this how do we know that the misinformation is that it is a scam. The only reason I would tend to believe a lot of what Fran is saying is because it correlates to a lot of what Ben has said and also what some other contacts of mine have said. Not identical, but close enough.

Additionally, it looks like the lawsuit is legit. I don't for one minute believe that this lawsuit is going to be the end all, but surely is a beginning, even if it is an attorney that is putting forth. There are many very good attorneys with souls even if they are part of the Defacto system.

And on another note, it so happens that I have a very good friend, who has a friend in what he calls one of the "alphabet" agencies, and he has confirmed to my friend that there is something definitely coming down. My friend also has a dual citizenship in US and Italy, and he has family and friends in Italy who have also confirmed...something is definitely happening. He could not tell me more. My friend has no reason at all to lie to me about this. So yes, this is hearsay, but for me it is a great confirmation.

I also know some friends who are involved in communication with the "countries" that Ben speaks to. I am sure it is the same "countries". I also know that this friend would gain nothing in lying to me. He is a sick man and has much better things to do then waste his energy lying to me :-)

I share this because I honestly believe that Ben has given us a lot of truth. I always remember that as he once said, he is reporting what he was told, which in the end is what any of us do, unless we are there first hand. And my one friend I mention in previous has been. I can't say more then that. Of course they could all be crazy, including David Wilcock, right :-) :cool: And I don't believe that for one moment. They are going to make mistakes.

I want to thank all of you, esp. Kimberly, who gave some of the missing pieces.

Glad to be able to join you all.

And watching the movie Thrive is possibly the best encouragement and education for people who have no idea of what is happening and what is coming down the pike...it is going to shake people's worldviews, no matter how good everything is going to work out. I feel the kindest thing I can do for my friends and family is just have them watch Thrive instead of throwing up all my "information" on them. I have been at this for many years and I still have trouble "digesting" it all.

May Peace be with us all!
Yvonne

[Kimberley]

Greetings Everyone,

I have been following this thread for a few days now and only just now got approved to post.
May Peace be with us all!
Yvonne

Yvonne welcome to Avalon!! Much love to you dear sister!! Thank you for your post. I am so looking forward to getting to know you better... I love your optimism!

I concur with all you wrote..thank you!
Much love to us all!!! :luv:

[YvonneG]

Thanks Kimberley.!

[Kimberley]

Ok my brothers and sisters of Avalon, I am so grateful to be in connection/communion with us all!!! ... I am a much better verbal communicator than a written communicator...so I am conducting a test by posting an audio response on this thread.. the content is in full resonance with this thread discussion... If this audio response works for you please thank this post wether you agree with the message or not.. If you are not able to hear this audio or access it via this forum please private message me or post on my profile page that you were not able to access this audio... and for those that are not members of the Avalon forum I would welcome your feed back as to whether you were able to listen to the audio post or not... you can contact me via e-mail at w1n1111@yahoo.com

All comments that relate to this message and this thread are welcome with open arms!!!

(Thank you for commenting on the technology being send privately are welcomed!!! )

To listen to the audio file click on the play , triangle button in the audio player this is 17 minutes

http://www.kjinterviews.com/Audio/PATest.mp3

http://www.kjinterviews.com/Audio/PATest.mp3

Much love to us ALL !!! :luv:

[buckminster fuller]

hi kimberley !

it seems it doesn't work here, status bar in firefox says "transferring data from projectavalon.net", but nothing haens. Have you tested it?


EDIT: ok, downloading... thanks
EDIT2 : listening :)

[Kimberley]

hi kimberley !

it seems it doesn't work here, status bar in firefox says "transferring data from projectavalon.net", but nothing haens. Have you tested it?

EDIT: ok, downloading... thanks
EDIT2 : listening :)

Ok it is coming to my attention that the mp3 player is not working very well so please try this link..

http://www.kjinterviews.com/Audio/PATest.mp3

[onawah]

The link is working fine for me.
http://www.kjinterviews.com/Audio/PATest.mp3

Apologies for my negative reaction re "NESARA prosperity packages".
Some history there...not my own, but someone I know, who got ripped off.
I am really disgusted with the kind of people who would prey on the hopes of others.
Bill Ryan and other credible resources have confirmed many times that the NESARA"prosperity packages" are a huge hoax, and so I had to wonder about the guy speaking on the original link who referred to the "packages" as a reality.

But the conversation with Greg Braden was very nice, and I certainly look forward to hearing more about the current alleged lawsuit, and any of the info from David Wilcock that you can share.

Much appreciated!
Namaste

[jp11]

Thanks, Kimberley, this link
http://www.kjinterviews.com/Audio/PATest.mp3
worked for me too. And I would appreciate knowing up front how long the audio is. I don't always have the time to listen to a video and/or audio...like this one. It's on as I type this but I'm going to have to stop listening now. And I don't have any idea how much longer it will last.

It looks like it's at about better than half way through.

[Cottage Rose]

While we are waiting for news, I am posting Fulford's latest blog post:

The US Senate and Obama claiming the right to murder and imprison Americans without trial was a fatal mistake Benjamin Fulford, December 5, 2011

The word is that the Pentagon, the agencies and the militias are on the brink of taking violent action against President Obama and the Senators who claimed the right to kill and/or indefinitely imprison Americans without trial. The criminal cabal in Washington D.C. and Wall Street may be able to pretend they are setting up a fascist/totalitarian dictatorship in the US for a while longer but no serious armed group is going to support them. The same is true in Europe were [where] Freemason P2 lodgers and Bilderbergers will make a move towards fascist control this week and will seem to be on the offensive but will ultimately fail. The simple fact of the matter is that these fascists simply do not have any reality to back up the numbers they are putting into their financial computers to bribe people and hire bully boys.

They are mathematically doomed. The awareness in the thinking part of the population of Western countries has reached a critical mass. The group that is sitting brainwashed in front of their TVs is irrelevant because the contents of their TV mind-programming will change once police and the military remove the criminals now occupying the corporate media.

Anyone who still believes there is an ounce of truth or decency in the large corporate media establishments has to ask themselves why these organizations do not write 911 truth or about the murder of 2 million Iraqis or about the vast bribes most top Washington D.C. corporate government officials have received. They must ask why people are being railroaded into an agenda of war against Iran as a precursor to World War 3.

More than anything else, they need to ask themselves why the so-called governments of the West do not make any serious future plans for the planet other than fomenting war.

In signs of imminent revolution, the Senators who voted to kill and imprison Americans without trial are being confronted in their offices by angry constituents. The military has told Obama to buzz off, which is exactly what he did by running off to Hawaii. [according to the WhiteHouse.gov schedule, however, he is still in the Whitehouse (as of 12-5-11)]

There are many militia groups, many with over 10,000 members each, that have contacted the White Dragon Society and are just waiting for the word to take up arms against the corporate federal government. White Dragon allies in the Pentagon and the agencies are asking the militias to stand down because they say the Washington and Wall St. criminals will be dealt with by the law. Clearly, when a group of men who have been bribed by foreign powers occupy the seat of government in Washington and claim the right to murder and imprison Americans without trial, then Americans can legally claim self-defense when preventing these scum from carrying out their murderous criminal acts.

The question for the decent people in the Pentagon and the agencies is, “are you going to be like the German army that just let Hitler take over or are you going to uphold your vows to protect the US constitution and the American people?”
In Europe as well, there is going to be a concerted move by the old world order people to enforce central government control. The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, reported to be Hitler’s daughter, has openly called for a political union of Europe that will be dominated by Germany.

Also, the new Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti, Romano Draghi the head of the European Central Bank and EU President Herman van Rompuy are all Jesuit-trained, leaders believed to be linked to the fascist P2 Freemason lodge.
The summit meeting of 27 EU heads of state this week will feature a push towards an unelected centrally controlled technocratic government. This will be disguised as an effort to make sure there is “coordination of fiscal policy.” What it will mean though is that the process of compiling a national budget, main job of a democratically elected government, will go unelected bodies.

However, as mentioned before, the European nations do not have enough money to finance the overall European external deficits. That means electorates in debtor countries like Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal, Ireland and the Baltic states will have a choice between being forced into having extreme cuts in their standards of living dictated to them by Eurocrats or renouncing their debts and going back to national currencies. The most likely outcome given this scenario is that the Euro will be reduced to a rump of 10 countries.

In Japan, meanwhile, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds remain cut-off from Japanese financing. This may be connected to an announcement by the Japanese Financial Services Agency that Citibank, Japan will be facing penalties for deceiving its clients. These penalties are expected to include separating the Japanese part of Citibank from the rest of Citigroup and shutting down some of their operations. This is the third time Citibank has been penalized in Japan. The last time was a few years ago when they were caught money-laundering for the Goryo Kai, Yakuza gangster syndicate.

The head of Citibank Japan as well as the top executives of three other major foreign financial institutions in Japan all quit in October. The behind the scenes clean up in Japan will continue over the coming weeks and months.

Finally, it is worth noting that a full moon and a full lunar eclipse will be visible on December 10th. The moon will be visibly red in the sky. A red moon is a sign of war. The Western criminal elite says the Red and Blue are paper tigers and that the White Dragon Society is just a toothless entity. They forget that patience and tolerance is not the same as weakness. Time is on the dragon’s side and the Western elite’s system is falling apart without any need for violence. However, we are getting very close to the point where it will be necessary to make some arrests to prevent war.

NOTE: I see now this has already been posted in another thread, but I will leave it here because it is pertinent to this discussion.

[YvonneG]

I can say that the militia piece is definitely true. I have known folks who are in the militia and some of my non-violent Patriot friends very active in what is going have told me about what the militia / Patriot folks would like to do. Hopefully it is not going to come that. I know my friends here in the USA have been working for things to happen non-violently. I can not know for sure if my one friend has been telling me the complete truth, not that he would lie, but you know how we can see things the way we want them. All that being said, it is because of these Patriot Friends that I have believed Ben a bit more than I might have at the beginning with my "wishful" thinking and wanting it to be true.

Should I find out anything from my patriot friend or my "Italian citizen" friend I will post it soon as I can.

I so enjoyed listening and being reminded of Gregg Braden's emphasis on how we "pray". I remember daily that Fear is the main instrument that is used by those who would control, and I imagine they love it when we are afraid or even manufacture or exaggerate any event that they may or may not have done.

Blessings
Yvonne

[YvonneG]

I listened to this Ex-New World Order Banker Tells out years ago when I spent a long time researching what in the world was going on and after I discovered Catherine Austin Fitts, former asst housing secretary, who tells a lot and how all of this that is happening was planned. I knew about this from her years ago and then I started seeing it. Anyway, I found this youtube video again and I think that it validates very much what Ben is saying.

I no longer feel that because 2 or 3 or 5 points are not identical in what people say, that this means everything is not true. I want to confess that this happened to me with David Wilcock years ago, where I felt he was wrong about one thing and then turned off to everything else! That was my loss!!

anyway, here is the video
http://youtu.be/TyA6J66SwgI

¤=[Post Update]=¤

http://youtu.be/7r-pbD1kIUE and in this one

CIA Officer Explains New World Order's Demise

this one is a must watch

[YvonneG]

ok...here is another one...think this is all of this on this Former CIA officer...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoUMyudlYFY

[araucaria]

YvonneG
The former NWO banker is George Green, interviewed several times by Bill & Kerry :)

[YvonneG]

YvonneG
The former NWO banker is George Green, interviewed several times by Bill & Kerry :)

That is not who was supposed to be in that one youtube video...you can see they switched out.. Look at the other ones. CIA Officer Explains New World Order's Demise --Robert Steele. He is not a banker. http://youtu.be/7r-pbD1kIUE

Yvonne

[YvonneG]

Hi Everyone,

I found out yesterday that Deepak Chopra has not just spoken at the OccupyLA BUT he has joined them. Offering himself, his resources and his friends (I am paraphrasing). I have seen the Occupy Movement as part of the Organic way the Universe/Goddess/Insert your own word :-) is going about organizing and bringing us into freedom. Whether or not Ben knows all the details, I have for a long time seen him as part of that, and remember that none of us perfect nor are any of us going to totally agree. When I heard Deepak yesterday I was thrilled because in the SPIRITUAL consciousness of our world he is a major player. Below are several videos which show up on a site that was created for Worldwide sharing of the Occupy movement groups.

http://studiooccupy.org/#!/media/d57p8h

http://studiooccupy.org/#!/media/85p73k

Enjoy!
Yvonne

PS On another note, my friend who knows people who have "boots on the ground" as he called it yesterday, confirm to him that these arrests are going to happen. When is the unanswered question. He also gets Cliff High's webot report and said that the report also says the same.

[Zillah]

HAPPINESS - LETS NOT FORGET THAT OUTCOME.

amen... this seed that was planted on WS is birthing into something that goes beyond the financial crisis --- lets use our greater vision to see that this is what will change humanity and transform us to something even greater.

KEEP MOVING AND KEEP OCCUPYING!!! <3

[onawah]

I was just checking on David Wilcock's Facebook page to see if there was any news of the 3rd article he is working on and saw these posts from readers and his Mods:


Lee Love
Hello David ..hope you are ok ... 10 days later no news about your interview with Benjamin .... just say hello to let us know all is ok for you ....

Christine Cox likes this.
Susan Denison Here's what someone wrote: <What's going on David? Needing some updates.

[Moderator: Patience kiddies, the story keeps getting better!! It's coming so soon I swear!!]>

Christine Cox And in another post: [Moderator: David is doing his very best and working all day and all night to get the complete info for this article.]

They mentioned in a third response that the story has become "really involved". This should really be good!

Apparently the delay has been because he has been getting more information, which I hope will be worth the wait! :clock: :target: :ear:
Alex Collier's claim that the "Recessives" have actually been responsible for destroying some of their own DUMBs to prevent them being taken over by the White Hats sounds like something they would do, and may possibly shed some light on why there has been so much confusion around this subject.

[modwiz]

I was just checking on David Wilcock's Facebook page to see if there was any news of the 3rd article he is working on and saw these posts from readers and his Mods:


Lee Love
Hello David ..hope you are ok ... 10 days later no news about your interview with Benjamin .... just say hello to let us know all is ok for you ....

Christine Cox likes this.
Susan Denison Here's what someone wrote: <What's going on David? Needing some updates.

[Moderator: Patience kiddies, the story keeps getting better!! It's coming so soon I swear!!]>

Christine Cox And in another post: [Moderator: David is doing his very best and working all day and all night to get the complete info for this article.]

They mentioned in a third response that the story has become "really involved". This should really be good!

Apparently the delay has been because he has been getting more information, which I hope will be worth the wait! :clock: :target: :ear:
Alex Collier's claim that the "Recessives" have actually been responsible for destroying some of their own DUMBs to prevent them being taken over by the White Hats sounds like something they would do, and may possibly shed some light on why there has been so much confusion around this subject.

There was a whole lot of shaking in NJ in the past 24 hours with the USGS reporting nothing. DUMB demolitions maybe?
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/something-shook-new-jersey-on-saturday-but-it-wasn-t/article_7e9db9ea-2343-11e1-ab94-0019bb2963f4.html

[onawah]

Hmmmm...I could not get that link to open.

I found this:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/12/dozens_in_nj_report_feeling_ea.html

Dozens in N.J. report feeling earthquake, but U.S. Geological Survey detects none
Published: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 5:40 PM Updated: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 10:02 PM
Floors shook, bottles rattled, bells jingled, and scores of New Jersey residents up and down the state cried "earthquake!" yesterday morning. Was this the state’s second rattler in four months?

Despite more than 60 residents who claimed to have felt shaking yesterday morning, a spokesman for the U.S. Geological Survey said none of the seismometers stationed around the state picked up even a hint of trembling.

"It’s not an earthquake," said geophysicist John Bellini, speaking from the U.S. Geological Survey’s Colorado office. "My guess would be it’s more likely thunder or sonic boom."

New Jersey has been rocked this year by half a dozen extreme weather and geological events, including a 5.8 magnitude earthquake centered in Virginia that shook buildings across the Garden State in August.

This time, the first-hand reports began streaming in around 10 a.m. yesterday from Egg Harbor, Cranbury, East Brunswick, North Brunswick, Trenton, Somerset, Edison, Plainfield, Piscataway, Iselin, South Plainfield and others, Bellini said.

At 11 a.m., Anthony Camaioni tweeted from his family’s dry cleaning shop in North Brunswick, "Yea I think it definitely happened again. #earthquake in #NJ The bells jingled in the store." Others posted on Twitter around the same time that they felt their homes sway and heard glass bottles clinking for between 10 and 30 seconds.

Bellini pointed to a band of thunderstorms off the state’s coastline or covert activities at Fort Dix or McGuire Air Force Base in southern Jersey as possible explanations for what residents might have felt.

A spokesman for the National Weather Service said its unlikely that even severe thunderstorms could make the ground feel as through it’s shaking.

Fighter jets used in drills near Virginia and North Carolina have caused sonic booms — the noise and vibration associated with traveling faster than the speed of sound — which can be mistaken for earthquakes, Bellini said.

A spokesman for Fort Dix did not return calls for comment.

Salvatore Saieva of Woodcliff Lake in Bergen County initially took to Twitter to report the earthquake to friends, but later said the military could be responsible for what he felt.

"My experience could be explained by a sonic boom," Saieva wrote on Twitter. "Bottles rattled, but I didn’t feel anything shaking beneath me."

Staff writer Nic Corbett contributed to this story.

[Calz]

Hmmmm...I could not get that link to open.


Something shook New Jersey on Saturday, but it wasn't an earthquake

Posted: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:45 pm | Updated: 8:28 am, Sun Dec 11, 2011.

Something shook New Jersey on Saturday, but it wasn't an earthquake By DAN GOOD

Local residents felt a slight tremor at about 10 a.m. Saturday. Residents in Newark, Bergen County and Sussex County felt it, too — something that made houses shake and water ripple.

It wasn’t an earthquake.


But what was it?

U.S. Geological Survey geophysicist Paul Caruso isn’t sure.

“We received a number of reports that people felt something,” Caruso said from the National Earthquake Information Center in Colorado. “We don’t know what it was.”

Local residents took to Facebook and Twitter to describe what they thought was an earthquake.

“I felt it in Margate, thought i was having a stroke!” wrote Patti Fiore.

“I think it was everyone’s imagination!” wrote Juanita Rivera.

“Maybe it was God Bowling and he a gotta 7-10 Split?!” wrote Ocean City resident Kevin DeCosta.

Caruso has some theories as to what caused the shaking sensation, but at this point it’s merely speculation.

“It could have possibly been a thunderstorm off the coast,” Caruso said. “A sonic boom, that’s another possibility.”

Caruso said this sort of thing happens several times a year, usually off the coast of Florida.

New Jersey has become more earthquake-conscious since August, when a 5.8-magnitude earthquake shook the East Coast.

There would be no repeat Saturday — just some concern and speculation, as New Jersey residents struggled to figure out what made the ground shake.

[YvonneG]

-- Very interesting on the NJ not-earthquake thing :cool:

Here is Ben's Report

Cabal struggles desperately to create fascist world government as multiple criminal investigations zero in on them
Posted by benjamin

December 12, 2011

The fascist cabal known as the Bilderbergers, CFR, committee of 300 etc., is desperately and without hope trying to start WW3 and install a fascist world government in an attempt to pre-empt criminal investigations closing in on them from all sides. Their efforts will fail because the Pentagon and the agencies in the US (with the exception of homeland Gestapo) are preparing to remove them from power, according to CIA and other sources. For example, multiple investigations are closing in on alleged President Obama, including one for illegally declaring war on Libya. A count among US representatives show the votes necessary to impeach him are there, US law enforcement officials say. In addition, evidence of bribery and other forms of illegally tampering with government is being compiled against George Soros, among others. There is also a lot going on under and on the surface in Europe, Japan and the Middle East.

In Europe, an agreement was reached by most countries, including the 17 in the Eurozone, to agree to cede national sovereignty over fiscal policy in order to protect the Euro. This is all part of a long planned central power grab by unelected secret Khazarian groups that was meant to be a major milestone on the road to a global fascist regime. Create the crisis, offer the solution.

In the US, as mentioned last week, the Obama regime has asserted the right to murder and imprison Americans without due process, meaning he has declared the US to be a fascist dictatorship. Again, it looks on the surface like the plans for a world fascist government are proceeding smoothly.

Fortunately for the rest of the human race, the fascist power grab is really just a sign of desperation.

The EU, agreement, for example, is like a dead-beat borrower promising to be good in the future saying: “Now that I have agreed to German autocratic control could I have some money please?” The answer remains, “sure, just borrow from the Germans.” The Germans, of course, do not have enough money. As mentioned before, the Euro zone still needs money from the rest of the world in order to stabilize its financial situation and that money will not be forthcoming until more fundamental problems with the global system, such as 1.1 billion hungry people and rampant environmental destruction, are dealt with. The upcoming belt-tightening, however, is a healthy process that will be good for Europe in the medium to long term.

Living within your means is always a wise policy for both individuals and nations.

The fact of the matter is that the European financial elites have been hogging the world’s financial assets since the end of World War 2 and have been plotting genocide so they are not going to get any money. End of story.

The UK was the only nation to veto the new EU treaty because the interests of the City of London financial district and the average citizen happened to coincide. The City did not want a financial transaction tax because it would gut their business and the average Britton was not willing to surrender to the Germans.

The situation in the US is a bit more complicated. The problem is that almost the entire leadership structure in Washington D.C. is corrupt and compromised but people in the pentagon and the agencies are so used to taking orders they do not know what to do when their leaders become dysfunctional.

For example, there are enough votes in the US Congress and Senate now to impeach Obama but the problem is nobody can agree on a replacement.

The various corruption investigations against the Obama regime can remove him from power but nobody knows what to do next. The only answer is for the military to set up a temporary government headed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff until the garbage can be removed from Washington D.C. and Wall Street. The military rightly claim that armies are not good at governing. However, they are good at cleaning up a mess and restoring constitutional order.

The US military also worry about being able to meet the payroll but the backers of the new financial system have already promised generous financing to ensure a restoration of US economic might and a gradual transition of the military industrial complex into something that can be self-supporting and good for the planet.

In any case, the Khazarian Satanic bankers in both Europe and the US are being cut off from their credit by the rest of the world. Since the only product they know how to create is debt, that means that without somebody gullible enough to provide them with credit, they have nothing but illusion to offer. These debts they claim the rights to are not owed by the people of Europe or the US because they were never anything but illusions placed upon them by rapacious bankers. No matter how many zeros and how many astronomical numbers they invent to put into their banking computers, there is simply nothing in the real world to back them up.

Their efforts to take over the rest of the world outside of the EU and the US are also failing big time. The sham attempt to sabotage Russian Parliamentary elections with paid saboteurs got nowhere. Efforts to start World War 3 in Iran continue to be blocked.

Attempts to get money from Asia to finance the Satanic cabalists are also going nowhere. According to a CIA representative, a senior member of the Du Pont family and a Rothschild representative are in Indonesia trying to get access to rights for Asian treasure but are getting nowhere.

In Japan too, there is a desperate attempt to re-establish Khazarian control.

Democratic Party of Japan power broker and Rockefeller stooge Ichiro Ozawa, police corruption beneficiary Shizuka Kamei and corrupt Tokyo mayor Shintaro Ishihara are trying to drum up support for a new political party. They have been sucking up to recently elected and very popular Osaka mayor Toru Hashimoto. The plan seems to be to use the nuclear fear they are fanning in Tokyo to promote a shift of government functions to Osaka. That, of course, would mean a lot of construction contracts and other means to bribe the Japanese political elite back into submission. It is such a pathetic plan that more than anything it shows how desperate these hoodlums have become.

[Mark]

At least's Ben's reports are consistent. The worldview and perspective he champions seems airtight and accompanies global events that are generally known as well as some that are on the fringes and not being discussed by the MSM. That's a few points in his favor. I can understand the problem about finding a replacement for Obama. One that wouldn't result in tearing the country apart even further.

[YvonneG]

A new lawsuit against bank from Mass. AG

[Zillah]

Daid Wilcock comments on his long-awaited interview with Ben Fulford – thanks to DrinkDeep

Posted on December 12, 2011
LOL… I say this without hesitation: the story behind this lawsuit is much, much bigger and more complex and amazing than Ben has been giving.

I have now been in extensive contact with the people named in the lawsuit, who have welcomed me into their trust. I have now seen extensive documentation. The book of Maklumat. Lots of elaborate contracts. Lots of bonds. Pictures of boxes the bonds were in were produced a mere 20 minutes after I told them what another insider told me the bonds looked like.

I may not produce any of this photographic documentation, as it could potentially break international laws and make it too easy for the loyal opposition to cause trouble. I still haven’t decided. If I do anything I will at least have to black out the serial numbers. Someone else may want to release this data in its virginal form, and when this lawsuit moves forward it will probably all happen anyway.

Ben has been focusing on one small subset of the story. However, I have now found the rest of the story, and it is vast. On some levels it is extremely complex, and that is the part that has ended up taking me so much time. I also feel it is important to post it all at once, for the sake of security. Once it’s done it’s done and there’s no turning back, nothing more to add, that’s it.

I have earnestly, if not desperately wanted to get this done sooner. However, the size of the data to put together is equivalent to writing a book. The Fulford transcript alone is over 70 pages long. I have another 40 pages of transcripts of interviews with the people named in the lawsuit. Then I have all the data from other sources that I found as a result of learning all this — sources with verifiable documentation already posted online.

It is stunning to discover that Fulford was totally telling the truth about this lawsuit, and even more stunning to find out that this is vastly more secret than the UFO issue. Despite the staggering complexity, the story is actually very elegantly simple on another level.

I also think the positive changes are utterly inevitable. I’m not filing this lawsuit. I’m not named in it. All I’m doing is putting together a picture that it seems will inevitably emerge, and probably a lot sooner than we think. This is a question that could become the most hotly-debated issue in any recent, recorded history. It’s stunning.

This will not be posted until it is ready. I do apologize. It will be worth it. If my plans go well, it will happen… gulp… uh, hm… right… sometime, uh…

SOOON!!!!!

- David

Comment by dwilcock on December 12, 2011 @ 2:07 am

[Calz]

Well here we go ... duncan vs david (and goliafulford) ... crowd please be seated.

:pop2:

[Bill Ryan]

Does anyone know if we can check this on the court website. I'm interested to see if there is any substance to this. A lot of his stuff is not backed up by anything.
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/forms.php

http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/05/41930.htm

[Dennis Leahy]

Definitely cause to pop some more popcorn... :popcorn:

Fulford and Wilcocks are two people I suspect are sincere, but I believe that they are generally gullible and easily placed into a position as unwitting disinfo agents. I guarantee that I will offer a heartfelt apology if and when 51% of what they have to say proves to be true.

But, it does provide fuel for the imagination, and that may be the finest and most important thing they do for me: fuel my imagination, freeing sticky hinges on a few more doors so that I am more free to visualize and dream. (I would love to believe that this lawsuit really will unravel the cabal.)

Dennis

[mountain_jim]

That link Bill provided does provide the best summation of this I have seen, though the article could use some editing and spelling help.

It was my intuition when the story of the 134.5 billion Kennedy bonds first broke (in the mainstream media even), that there was something going on here - as who would fake and expect to cash a bond that large? Or so it seemed to me at the time.

The bonds were claimed to be fake, and then the story seemed to go away.

I believed they were real, but had no clue of why they existed or who might really own them. Just goes to show how murkey all this historical financial stuff really is, and I bet the stories of missing Fort Knox gold and fake gold bars also contain some truth. Then there were tie-ins to gold and huge electronic sums in the 9/11 conspiracy stories also.

[onawah]

Even if this only plays out to no great resolution, it is akin to the Suffolk County ban on Chemtrails, or the international justice tribunal that Alfred Webre belongs to, in that somebody is doing something, and is bringing more attention to the problems that must be resolved. It may just be the first baby steps, but that can lead to the big grown up steps that must come.
We must continue to exercise Imagination, lest we succumb to Cancer of the Imagination, however faltering our first steps may be.
I am convinced there are helping hands assisting us, as long as we continue to do our best, as in the story of David and Goliath.

[000]

Remember that article David Wilcock was working on for this? Well, it appears things may be getting fairly interesting.


LOL… I say this without hesitation: the story behind this lawsuit is much, much bigger and more complex and amazing than Ben has been giving.

I have now been in extensive contact with the people named in the lawsuit, who have welcomed me into their trust. I have now seen extensive documentation. The book of Maklumat. Lots of elaborate contracts. Lots of bonds. Pictures of boxes the bonds were in were produced a mere 20 minutes after I told them what another insider told me the bonds looked like.

I may not produce any of this photographic documentation, as it could potentially break international laws and make it too easy for the loyal opposition to cause trouble. I still haven’t decided. If I do anything I will at least have to black out the serial numbers. Someone else may want to release this data in its virginal form, and when this lawsuit moves forward it will probably all happen anyway.

Ben has been focusing on one small subset of the story. However, I have now found the rest of the story, and it is vast. On some levels it is extremely complex, and that is the part that has ended up taking me so much time. I also feel it is important to post it all at once, for the sake of security. Once it’s done it’s done and there’s no turning back, nothing more to add, that’s it.

I have earnestly, if not desperately wanted to get this done sooner. However, the size of the data to put together is equivalent to writing a book. The Fulford transcript alone is over 70 pages long. I have another 40 pages of transcripts of interviews with the people named in the lawsuit. Then I have all the data from other sources that I found as a result of learning all this — sources with verifiable documentation already posted online.

It is stunning to discover that Fulford was totally telling the truth about this lawsuit, and even more stunning to find out that this is vastly more secret than the UFO issue. Despite the staggering complexity, the story is actually very elegantly simple on another level.

I also think the positive changes are utterly inevitable. I’m not filing this lawsuit. I’m not named in it. All I’m doing is putting together a picture that it seems will inevitably emerge, and probably a lot sooner than we think. This is a question that could become the most hotly-debated issue in any recent, recorded history. It’s stunning.

This will not be posted until it is ready. I do apologize. It will be worth it. If my plans go well, it will happen… gulp… uh, hm… right… sometime, uh…

SOOON!!!!!

- David
Source (http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/daid-wilcock-comments-on-his-long-awaited-interview-with-ben-fulford-thanks-to-drinkdeep/)

I have to laugh at the title of the courthouse news service article "Bizarre Claim for $1 Trillion"... okay... so the 'too big to fail' banks in the US who received bailouts totalling $29.6 Trillion *isn't* perceived as bizarre and a $1T claim which may have very real implications is? Pfff.

Here is another article, unrelated, mentioning in passing some P2 Lodge mischief: CIA Opens Books with Surprises for Lee Wanta, Libya and More (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/20/cia-opening-its-books-some-surprises-in-store-wanta-libya-and-more/#.Tt1v1CY2UmE.email)

Oh nothing to see here... just things that are actually happening. Ho hum!

[Muzz]

Davids posted this on his blog.

CONFIRMED: The Trillion-Dollar Lawsuit That Could End Finanical Tyranny (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny)

[Calz]

Davids posted this on his blog.

CONFIRMED: The Trillion-Dollar Lawsuit That Could End Finanical Tyranny (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny)

Thanks for posting the link Muzz.

At last we have something to sink our teeth into regarding the legitimacy of what Fulford and Wilcock have been talking about for some time now.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Link to David Wilcock interview with Ben Fulford on this subject:

http://divinecosmos.com/podcasts/Wilcock_Fulford_2011-12-02.mp3

[YvonneG]

WILCOCK INTERVIEW WITH BEN IS NO ON KIMBERLEY'S SHOW:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/belovenow/2011/12/13/living-in-the-now
David's transcript and back up is on his site now. divinecosmos.com

I can not imagine any naysayer continuing to bad mouth or criticize David and Ben.

Enjoy! and thank you dear Kimberley

love
yvonne

[mountain_jim]

This interview transcript, along with the whole content of The Source Field Investigations, is another example of why I got a little ticked off at the trashing of David by a certain super-soldier we all know about and want to support in the process of disclosure of so many things.

David has worked for years and providing HUGE amounts of his researches for free. To trash him for the things he gets paid for ticks me off.

David means well, has an big ego I admit, but dang his heart is and has been in the right place, and he works hard towards a positive future for us.

As does our super-soldier in the other thread who has no good use for him.

[astrid]

Just in and not yet passed through the BS meter...

"Benjamin Fulford is Kidnapped by CIA ? December 13th 2011
Show More
Bydandomina
300 views"

Also we need a translator it's in Japanese ...


vMUMntRMaD0

[Kimberley]

Just in and not yet passed through the BS meter...

"Benjamin Fulford is Kidnapped by CIA ? December 13th 2011
Show More
Bydandomina
300 views"

From YouTube I can't pull up URL
I'm on my iPhone can someone please search this
And post it up thanks
Also we need a translator it's in Japanese ...

Try this one
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvMUMntRMaD0%26feature%3Dyoutu.be&feature=youtu.be&v=vMUMntRMaD0&gl=AU

Hi Atrid... this was brought to my attention a few hours ago... I sent the Links to David Wilcock and am expecting him to responds to tell us Ben is fine...
I chose to not post these until they came up from someone else... Lets all expect protection for both David & Ben and all the rest of us...

Please remember that as of right now this is just a rumor... these are two different posts...

And yes "Also we need a translator it's in Japanese ..."

I will let you/us know if I find out anything further as to the validity of these...

Much love :luv:



FLASH REPORT: Mr. Benjamin Fulford DETAINED?

NvPDEMcvum8

Benjamin Fulford is Kidnapped by CIA ? December 13th 2011

vMUMntRMaD0

[astrid]

Ok I just wasnt sure if anyone had seen it yet .
Quite the story this is turning out to be
What the bet someone is working on
the screen play as we speak ..

Btw great work Kimberly!

[RMorgan]

Ok I just wasnt sure if anyone had seen it yet .
Quite the story this is turning out to be
What the bet someone is working on
the screen play as we speak ..

I don´t know about the legitimacy of this tv show. Maybe they are just a crappy news show trying attract some attention.

If this is indeed true, we will soon know from more reliable sources.

Anyway, I hope this is all a bad joke.

Cheers,

Raf.

[astrid]

Agreed again i was just posting it so others could
dig more, can't really cross check from phone
too slow .

[Billy]

Oh Lordy, more drama, Positive thinking, I reckon they were his own CIA contacts escorting him to safety. Be safe Benjamin

[000]

Ok I just wasnt sure if anyone had seen it yet .
Quite the story this is turning out to be
What the bet someone is working on
the screen play as we speak ..

I don´t know about the legitimacy of this tv show. Maybe they are just a crappy news show trying attract some attention.

If this is indeed true, we will soon know from more reliable sources.

Anyway, I hope this is all a bad joke.

Cheers,

Raf.

No, it is legitimate. Ben is a regular on this show. Go to youtube, type in Benjamin Fulford Mopal and you shall see.


Oh Lordy, more drama, Positive thinking, I reckon they were his own CIA contacts escorting him to safety. Be safe Benjamin

This is what I am suspecting too at the moment. I'm not going to speculate any more about it though. All I can say is, if anyone were to try and make Benjamin a martyr at this moment they would be doing themselves in for eternity. The game is over for the non-empathic.

Much safety to Benjamin no matter what his situation is at the moment.

[Open note to potential watchers with non-positive intentions: The dreamers are watching you constantly. Make your choices wisely.]

[Zillah]

Agreed again i was just posting it so others could
dig more, can't really cross check from phone
too slow .

Thanks Astrid! I have a deep feeling things are OK even if this is true.

Kimberly, your work is appreciated - you are doing wonderful service.

HOLD SPACE for BEN and DAVID - we create reality and can shift anything.

[mountain_jim]

I refreshed David's blog page

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny

and saw he and Keenan have responded to this 'news'.

Good vibes for these folks.

[astrid]

Yes well ... If this whole story, (thread topic
I mean here) , is legit both parties would be
on lots of radars right now . Friends in high
places you would hope and pray would
step in to assist Ben in his quest .
Unless the other side gets to him first that is .
But we do know from past interviews that he has
loads of documented evidence hidden away
to be released if anything happens to him .
He's not silly. The question or the main one
was always whether he was being used or not.
As happens as soon as someone gets a big
enough following . Mind control being
what it is .

[Kimberley]

Alright I found the below up date from David Wilcock on his article
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny


And I have now had 2 friends that are fluent in Japanese confirm the English interpretation to be accurate...

So I know you join me in expecting protection for Ben & David and us ALL!!
Much :luv:

*******************************

*****************************************************


UPDATE NEXT MORNING: FULFORD BEING DETAINED BY "CIA KIND OF GROUP" IN A HOTEL AGAINST HIS WILL?

Just when you thought this story wasn't dramatic or overwhelming enough, now we have even more to add to it.

Fulford was supposed to appear on mopal.jp's popular online show, "State Emergency Committee," on December 13th -- during the exact same time that this article came out. I had already telegraphed that it was imminent -- and tremendous in scope.

However, the producers of the show were informed that Fulford was being detained by a "CIA kind of group" in a hotel, against his will. They suspected that his life may be in danger -- which could be true, but it is too early to know.

Here is a short synopsis of what they said, from one translator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMUMntRMaD0

Here is a longer version of the same video, complete with the opening sequence of the show, performed by a different translator. Unfortunately, the CC overlays other text that is already on-screen, making it a mess -- so just hit the CC button to turn it off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPDEMcvum8

WE WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED

I do not believe Fulford to be the type of person who would lie about this or stage such an event. If anything happens to him, this story will explode into view much faster than it already is.

The genie is out of the bottle. You cannot stop this. Stand down and do not harm us. This is not your planet to abuse anymore.

Spread the word. Tell everyone you know about this story. Share the link. Write. Blog. Comment. Publicity is protection. Thank you!


OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM NEIL KEENAN, 12:07 PM, DEC. 13, 2011

Dear Mr. Wilcock,

I am very concerned for Ben’s safety. He has been a friend of mine for two years and I see him traveling and risking his life in order to provide his readers with stories. I know more than I tell, but he is a very gentle, concerned person -- and he really wants to see the deserts green.

I pray that what we are hearing is not happening -- and if so, I pray they release him safely.

I fear that Benjamin is being held because of his mentioning of holding the Book of Codes and Maklumat.

This simply is not true.

Not even I have them -- but they are in safe hands.

[DW: All I've seen is low-resolution JPEG images of it that are not even sharp enough to actually make out any of the codes. I will not be releasing them, nor ever planned to. I do not wish to get in trouble... just to report on a public story.

Those named in this suit should be smart enough to know that if they create martyrs, they will have a much more serious problem on their hands. You are being offered a settlement. Take it.]

So if this is it, please let Benjamin go -- so he can return to his rightful position, advising the world of its wrongs.

[YvonneG]

For what it is worth dear friends. If indeed those want to "stop" Ben having really accomplished holding him on "house arrest", then they are not very smart. Doing so would only prove to those who don't believe Ben that there just is something to all that he has shared through the years. On the other hand, if for some reason it "were" true, then I trust that the protection that Ben says he now has will be able to save the day, along with us holding a "space" for him in our hearts.

It is interesting, because although I have always liked Ben, even when I wasn't sure how much of what he said was true, I know feel great love for him. I meant to post something here yesterday and will find it if anyone is interested. One of the top Reverse speech experts actually analyzed one of Ben's videos and said that Ben is true blue and really believes what he is saying.

Ben we thank you and are with you my Brother and we thank you David Wilcock for your risk taking and sharing all that you do, inspite of the nay-sayers who are just afraid or possibly or?

And of course thanks to you Kimberley, who have brought so much to us. I am very glad to be part of this thread.

Love
Yvonne

¤=[Post Update]=¤

The TV show is legit, I have seen Ben on it many times. There are bunches of youtube videos with Ben speakin' in Japanese.

[YvonneG]

Not sure how much you guys know about reverse speech, but this is very interesting and was one of the many "factors" that over the last years caused me to believe Ben for the most part and not just naively 'cause I wanted to believe like at first when I first discovered him on Project Camelot and disparately needed some "good news" :-) My reason for posting this here is so that Ben can be validated more concretely. ;)

An Ultimatum to the Illuminati - Reverse Speech Analysis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egF1NoG3iH0

[YvonneG]

HOLD SPACE for BEN and DAVID - we create reality and can shift anything.


YES! I concur;)

[WhiteFeather]

I have been one of the forum members who has been posting David Wilcock's info which was based on Fulford's info, knowing full well how controversial it all has been, and not convinced myself, but still feeling there must be some truth to it.
So this is very gratifying news.
I'm still waiting for Wilcock's 3rd article on the alleged emptied DUMBs, but this story is just as big in it's own way.
Imagine a 2012 in which all this turns out to be true and a victory!

I'm not nearly as afraid of being disappointed as I am of having no hope in the first place.
Been there, done that.

Alex Collier speaks of The Dumbs being destroyed as well in his latest video with Robert Stanley On Blogtalk radio, i will dig it up Peeps. Here it is,,,At the 39:00 minute mark, Alex speaks of The D.U.M.B.S. Deep Underground Military Bases.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2011/12/09/the-unicus-radio-hour

[Muzz]

Thanks to you all for keeping us updated. I hope Ben is ok.

Isnt it tomorrow that the 21 days is up for the defendents to respond to the lawsuit?

[norman]

I fear that Benjamin is being held because of his mentioning of holding the Book of Codes and Maklumat.




I think he's being 'held' because the case is so important that even he might say something that the opposion lawyers could use to kill the case. I think the guys 'holding' him are on his/our side.

[Muzz]

I fear that Benjamin is being held because of his mentioning of holding the Book of Codes and Maklumat.




I think he's being 'held' because the case is so important that even he might say something that the opposion lawyers could use to kill the case. I think the guys 'holding' him are on his/our side.

I was thinking the same thing.

[DreamsInDigital]

Lets remember, Thought Influences Matter, and thought is the basis for reality. This is a Holographic Universe, we can influence it, we are all very strong collectively, and as individuals. If we all focus our thoughts and energies together on a peaceful (For Ben and the Good Guys) outcome, and are intent on that being the only outcome possible. Then, it will be what happens.

We should all message our local News people , like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and try to get them to cover this story. Specially CNN. Or Associated Press. Like DW said, Publicity is Protection!

[Zillah]

I fear that Benjamin is being held because of his mentioning of holding the Book of Codes and Maklumat.




I think he's being 'held' because the case is so important that even he might say something that the opposion lawyers could use to kill the case. I think the guys 'holding' him are on his/our side.

I was thinking the same thing.

I brought the topic up to my family, everyone interjected and said the exact same thing - he's being held for safety. If this is in the field, then I choose to align to this potential -- a much safer, reasonable and better reality.

[Kimberley]

Thanks to you all for keeping us updated. I hope Ben is ok.

Isnt it tomorrow that the 21 days is up for the defendents to respond to the lawsuit?

Muzz and all ...it depends on the position of the defendant... I told you this already but will repeat it... if it was you or me just plain folk with no political clout it would be 21 days... although if it is the UN it could be 60 -90 days... I or William (my husband the attorney) did not research and define the detailed definition but there is one ... so depending on the position/title/stature or the defendant they could have a longer time to respond than 21 days... I hope this makes sense..
Much :luv:

[DreamsInDigital]

That was and primarily still is my first thought/feeling on this situation. That it is for his safety, he talks so much about being aligned with the CIA. It would be completely logical.

[Kimberley]

Lets remember, Thought Influences Matter, and thought is the basis for reality. This is a Holographic Universe, we can influence it, we are all very strong collectively, and as individuals. If we all focus our thoughts and energies together on a peaceful (For Ben and the Good Guys) outcome, and are intent on that being the only outcome possible. Then, it will be what happens.

We should all message our local News people , like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and try to get them to cover this story. Specially CNN. Or Associated Press. Like DW said, Publicity is Protection!

YES, YES, YES... take action and please remember to feel what ever you vision as already a done deal... do not give it the energy of "want it" or "hoping" for it because the way to manifest is to feel it as already being....

I am so grateful to be in connection with this group of powerful manifesters... You are so loved and so powerful... bring it on my brothers and sisters.... We are victorious!!!

and here is a song from my top favorite prophet, singer, composer, poet, etc...


-Wl_FsEc_Gk

Seal - Bring It On

Lyrics:

Bring it on
...it on it on it on it on it on it on...

...Bring it on bring it on bring it on bring it on...

First I didn't have the will to carry on
...carry on...

Illusions in my mind
...illusions in my mind...

Like that picture when you feel you can't go on
...go on...

Like you've been left behind
...behind...

Life goes on, now
Take me to that funky place where you and I were born.

Carry on, now
...now...

Psychedlic tendencies of love will bring it on
...bring it on...
Bring it on
Bring it on, Bring it on
Don't wait until tomorrow
Bring it on
Bring it on
Bring it on

Give me something for the dream that I am in
...in...
You know I love the way you save me
A broken pawn,
I depended on.
Was only life, I was feeling

It goes on, now
Take me to that funky place where you and I were born
Carry on, now
Ain't no reason you should feel for shorn,
Unconditioned love will bring it on.....

Bring it on
Bring it on
Don't wait until tomorrow
Wait until tomorrow
Bring it on

Bring it on, bring it on bring it on

Bring it on, bring it on bring it on
...Bring it on.............

Bring it on, bring it on bring it on
Bring it on, bring it on bring it on
Bring it on, bring it on bring it on

Bring it on, bring it on bring it on
...Bring it on.............

Bring it on, bring it on bring it on
Bring it on, bring it on bring it on
Bring it on, bring it on bring it on

Unconditioned love will bring it on

La da..da de da...

So what lies under.
Is your Kingdom Come?
Chase it way,
Down low.
It's only life.

Don't wait until tomorrow.
Don't wait until tomorrow.
Don't wait until tomorrow.
Don't wait until,
Wait until tomorrow.

Bring it on, bring it on bring it on
Bring it on

Seal ""

[Calz]

As I posted in a related thread ... if this was due to those representing the cabal then Ben would have been killed outright.

Let us keep our thoughts positive and send Fulford protection.

[GlassSteagallfan]

David Wilcock writes:
"It is the single biggest real problem the Powers that Were have ever had. That also means it's extremely good news for everyone else."

I've been following this story, but I do not understand or grasp the meaning of what David says here. Could anyone please explain what I am missing?

[Zillah]

David Wilcock writes:
"It is the single biggest real problem the Powers that Were have ever had. That also means it's extremely good news for everyone else."

I've been following this story, but I do not understand or grasp the meaning of what David says here. Could anyone please explain what I am missing?

It means the Powers that Were are in the biggest poo poo yet (lawsuit) - so yes this is very good for the rest of us - game over for them.

[modwiz]

David Wilcock writes:
"It is the single biggest real problem the Powers that Were have ever had. That also means it's extremely good news for everyone else."

I've been following this story, but I do not understand or grasp the meaning of what David says here. Could anyone please explain what I am missing?

It means the Powers that Were are in the biggest poo poo yet (lawsuit) - so yes this is very good for the rest of us - game over for them.

Whoever thought that poo would smell so sweet.

[jp11]

I love your interpretation Zillah. :) Sounds good to me...and feels good to be reading it here.

Great energy. Pass it on and on and on... :lol:

[Ultima Thule]

Worth a :bump:
Any news of Ben, Kimberley?
For my part, I wish him and his circumstances the highest possible guidance and protection!

UT

[161803398]

There is probably good people in the CIA and bad people in the CIA. Maybe they are there to protect him. ??

[Muzz]

Update from davids site


UPDATE TUESDAY NIGHT / WEDNESDAY, 12:44 AM: BEN IS ALIVE AND OKAY!

I just got word from Neil Keenan that he is now on the phone with Ben and he is alive and OK. That is literally all the info I have.

The most probable guess I have seen out there right now is that Ben was actually being detained for his own safety against another threat -- of which there have been several.

More information will be provided as it comes in.

[Kimberley]

Good morning....

latest up date From DW's page..

Glad to know they are ok...



UPDATE TUESDSAY NIGHT / WEDNESDAY, 1:05 AM: SAY WHAT?

This story just gets stranger and stranger. Fulford told Keenan he just forgot about the show and went off for a happy trip to the mountains with his wife, then came home to sleep.

The network apparently was supposed to call and remind him, but forgot. They reached him on the phone at some point, but by that point it was too late, he was too far away and he couldn't go.

Ben's side of the story, as he explained it to Keenan, was that "the hotel incident story was not accurate, and was totally made up by the network."

This may be true, and it may not be true. Keenan doesn't know, and there is no way for any of us to know at this point. Even if the network admits they made it up, we can't prove that is actually a true statement either. Fulford has had strenuous threats lately.

Let's be glad that Fulford is alive and well. If he was narco-interrogated and/or threatened and sworn to secrecy, and the network told the truth, that's all the more reason for us to double and redouble our efforts to get this astonishing story out into public view.

It's time to take the planet back. This was a very healthy reminder for me of the stakes. I will not rest until humanity is free.

[YvonneG]

I thought you would want to see this which a friend just shared. If you type illuminati backwards and add .com in your browser it takes you to the NSA site!!

[Kimberley]

I thought you would want to see this which a friend just shared. If you type illuminati backwards and add .com in your browser it takes you to the NSA site!!



Wow interesting here is the google search I did on itanimulli.com

https://www.google.com/search?q=itanimulli.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

and it indeed re-directs to this site... http://www.nsa.gov/

and there are reports of this back in 2009... So NSA would know about this and if an outsider was re-directing don't you think it would have been stopped b now???? hmmmmm for sure

[Kimberley]

By the way there is another thread "Fulford-released" that all of you following this thread need to see... I do not want to keep posting back and forth... there is a new development that has us questioning what is going on???

Much love :luv:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36766-Fulford-released...

[YvonneG]

I wasn't going to share this because it is far too lengthy to get into, but decided I could share a little. There has been a group of people (good people) who have been "fighting" those in Power via the Constitution and Common Law. This group was approached back in 2010 think by the Pentagon or they alleged said that. I didn't make up my mind at first because it seemed to fantastic, but because of Ben and because I met one of them personally and is now my friend, I couldn't believe my friend would be lying to me.

The main person who is at the main contact for lack of a better word, about 6 months ago had 3 attempts against his life. "CiA" types took him into custody for a number of weeks to PROTECT him. I know this first hand from my friend who is one of his closest associates and friends.

Sooo...I thought of this last nite and felt it could help our consciousness to see more positive possibilities.

love
yvonne

PS how interesting I had not seen the previous post when I posted this one. And then I read Kimberley's post on the other thread where David feels it was for his protection--there is more reason to believe it was for his protection. :clap2:

[YvonneG]

Wow interesting here is the google search I did on itanimulli.com

https://www.google.com/search?q=itanimulli.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

and it indeed re-directs to this site... http://www.nsa.gov/

and there are reports of this back in 2009... So NSA would know about this and if an outsider was re-directing don't you think it would have been stopped b now???? hmmmmm for sure


My sentiments exactly :thumb:

[Kimberley]

I think this belongs in this thread too.... we are so powerful!!

Thank you for being you!

This 13 minute video is perfect... Enjoy ... :luv:


FR7GmHyNV5U

[Kimberley]

Latest update from David Wilcock:


WEDNESDAY 12/14, 8:36 AM Pacific time: CHODOIN DAIKAKU SAYS FULFORD "RELEASED AFTER NEGOTIATION"

Why would Chodoin Daikaku go on television and rather haltingly make this statement... offering very little information as if he were concerned about saying anything more?

Even further -- why would a man with such a prestigious, easily provable public position go on a popular program and tell such a blatant lie?


MLo7hXub8uo

FEMALE: We have got some questions about Benjamin Fulford situation via the Internet. Please let us know.

CHODOIN DAIKAKU: Yesterday, we got information that Benjamin was captured and detained by foreign agents (spies).

After the program, I managed to find out his location. He was detained at Roppongi (Central Tokyo).

After various negotiations at onsite, I (we) have managed to release him. He is in safe at his home now.

He will attend the next meeting (a Mopal program on December 27th), and he will express his opinion, I suppose.

This is the only comment from myself.

DW: Fulford disappeared for an entire day and on through an overnight to the next day. He did not answer email or phone. He may have been forced to give a cover story for his own protection, as Daikaku is saying something altogether different.

Let's be glad Ben is alive. He's also been naming specific names lately and that could also have been something that got him in hot water.

There is every reason to believe that the timing of what Daikaku is calling a "capture and detaining" was not an accident, considering we just released the definitive article proving everything he's been saying about this lawsuit all along is true -- and I telegraphed it on Ben's blog for two weeks before it came out.



I am not sure why David writes
why would a man with such a prestigious, easily provable public position go on a popular program and tell such a blatant lie?


How does David know what is the truth or what is not... He has not spoken with Ben directly?

Much love :luv:

[YvonneG]

Kimberley, I took David's statement, not that he believes it is a lie, but that there would be no reason for this man to lie.

[Muzz]

Now David is saying that he has recieved a death threat.


WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 14TH, 3:39 PM: DEATH THREAT

For the first time in my entire career as a journalist, I have been given a very severe threat, handed to me from one of my top insiders.

I was told that I have tonight only to get Part Two out -- "it would be a very good idea" for my own safety, as publicity is protection.

Although the exact nature of the threat is unspecified, I was told I might be "lucky" if all I got was torture.

If I am savvy, so I am told, I may get away with spending the rest of my life in a top-secret facility in a "deep, dark hole" working as a black-ops scientist.

The best protection I have is publicity. For that same reason I will be releasing Part Two as soon as possible, even if I have to stay up all night.

It has been an honor serving you. Never forget how much you are loved. If I am to die, then I die with honor -- a noble soldier of the Light. I thank you for all the love and care you have shown me over the years and am grateful that I have left such a vast legacy of helpful material for you.

I have to get to work now. Thank you and God bless you.

[mountain_jim]

And more updates following that one, including a radio show he did with Kerry, at the same blog link

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny


WEDNESDAY 12/14, 5:37 PM: NOTICE TO ALL HOLDERS OF THE WILCOCK FILE

DO NOT attempt to call. DO NOT attempt to email. Answer ANY anonymous phone call that comes in over the next week.

DO NOT release Category 1 under any circumstances except as directed below. DO NOT inspect the video, audio, photographs or document files.

You will be receiving a large update shortly. All of this is Category 1 material and belongs in the Category 1 folder.

Proceed with Category 1, as directed, if I do not speak further over the next four days. DO NOT, under any circumstances, release Category 2 unless at least three of the events listed in the Revealing folder have occurred.

Remember your code phrases. If you see any of them in my next article, proceed with Distribution Plan 1 in the Revealing folder, but DO NOT release Category 1.

No further public statements will be made. Please do not ask for clarification if you do not know what I am talking about. I did not expect to ever have to use this, but I am also not stupid.


AS FOR EVERYONE ELSE



This is not a joke or a publicity stunt. The best way you can help is to send us your prayers and good thoughts, and SPREAD THIS INFORMATION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. Thank you and I know you are with me, always.

I am told the most critical period is the next 3-4 days, depending on how fast Part Two spreads. I was also told if I make it through that, it will be impossible for anyone to hurt me. Once we hit a critical mass of views, they must completely back off.

There is true horror at the highest levels that I have done this.

Please be assured that if the Wilcock File is released it will be much worse for you. We can end this peacefully and with a minimum of trouble.

I will be your best public advocate for a fair trial and / or immunity. Very few people are the real problem. Remember.



UPDATE 6:40 PM


I will be appearing on Kerry Cassidy's radio show in the next half hour to speed up the process of telling the rest of the story.

7:21 pm: We are on commercial break with American Freedom Radio. I have already given a synopsis of the most important points.

8:40 pm: So many people are trying to listen to the show that it has completely maxed out the streaming servers. Please be patient.

An MP3 version will be posted within one hour after the show is completed -- circa 10PM Pacific time. We will have it up here on this site and it will be on Project Camelot as well.

9:41 pm: I have been in conversation with various folks and I do not believe I will be harmed. The bulk of what I needed to reveal in Part Two was shared on live radio. I may give myself time to sleep and post this tomorrow rather than stay up all night, as this has been an emotional time for me.

Thank you for all the beautiful letters of support. At this point it would be very unwise for anyone to attempt to hurt me, for several different reasons -- including those revealed on the radio program from "Anonymous."

I will continue doing my best to give you the highest-quality inspirational material... for so long as I shall live.


UPDATE WEDNESDAY 9:48 PM: BIG, POSITIVE SYNCHRONICITY



Kerry just sent out the following message I got on Skype:

December 14, 2011

The SHOW STREAM WILL BE AVAILABLE IN 1 HOUR... we will post it here and on the Camelot Forum please send it around the world. David is now safe and protected.

Thank you to everyone listening for all the help and love. Please continue to send your love and stand in solidarity with David and all of us during this time. We place arms around the world in blessing and stand together - for together, united we are strong.

click here for music to raise the spirits

Breaking News! David Wilcock receives Death Threat
9:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJFiaX3hLQE

I clicked on the link and it wasn't until I was almost a minute into it that I looked at the number of hits... check it out, I did not make this up:




Wild stuff... I believe "Management" has spoken once again. Thanks to your support in publicizing this and spreading the word, no harm will come to me. I do appreciate it!



THE LINK TO THE RADIO SHOW

Only seconds after I just posted this 22,222 synchronicity, I got the next update from Kerry under the same window. She sent me the link where you can now download this radio show, in which I was very emotional and cried a lot, but did manage to summarize everything that is going to be appearing in Part Two -- all the main points.
http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-121411.mp3

This has been a very surreal and difficult day, but we moved quickly and I think it saved my ass. The YouTube sync I just had is very reassuring. I thank you for all your support.

Another commercial-free version of the radio show is being edited for YouTube distribution. Once that becomes available I will post a link to it here.

This link is to the same radio show, with commercials, but saved locally on our super-fast Divine Cosmos server in the event that American Freedom Radio's service is hacked or compromised in any way.
http://divinecosmos.com/podcasts/Project-Camelot-32k-121411.mp3

This is our best form of defense. You have the power to make this all turn out for the best, and I do appreciate your help. It means a lot.

As further protection, here is a link to a PDF file of this article that you can distribute far and wide in case you have trouble seeing this site or if it ever goes offline:

http://divinecosmos.com/media/The_Trillion-Dollar_Lawsuit_That_Could_End_Financial_Tyranny.pdf

[Calz]

There was quite the lively thread going on at the time covering it.

Some could not access the radio show live (for various reasons) and so several of the members were doing a great "play by play" reporting of what was happening.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36794-David-Wilcock-receives-very-serious-death-threat-after-Fulford-gets-kidnapped

[mountain_jim]

I came to this forum before that one, thanks for the tip.

[mountain_jim]

Have any of you been to the site David mentioned yet:

http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/deepblacklies_new.htm

I had been following info about financial corruption for years, but was unaware of this site until today, and it appears on first look to have a lot about the history that Ben and David are referencing there.

[YvonneG]

The threat youtube video on David is NO longer that but a song! any clue any one?

[Calz]

The threat youtube video on David is NO longer that but a song! any clue any one?

Scroll down to the bottom (above the comments) and you have MP3s and PDF for everything you need to be up to speed on the situation ...


http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny

[YvonneG]

I just started listening to the show...So Much Love to David...

[Whiskey_Mystic]

The threat youtube video on David is NO longer that but a song! any clue any one?

It is the theme song to a popular computer game. The song speaks of the coming of a messiah. The Dragonborn.

Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan
Fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin, fah hin kogaan mu draal

[YvonneG]

The threat youtube video on David is NO longer that but a song! any clue any one?

It is the theme song to a popular computer game. The song speaks of the coming of a messiah. The Dragonborn.

Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan
Fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin, fah hin kogaan mu draal

Thanks Whiskey, I did listen to it. Not sure how this is a threat to David? Can you explain :confused:

[Whiskey_Mystic]

The threat youtube video on David is NO longer that but a song! any clue any one?

It is the theme song to a popular computer game. The song speaks of the coming of a messiah. The Dragonborn.

Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan
Fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin, fah hin kogaan mu draal

Thanks Whiskey, I did listen to it. Not sure how this is a threat to David? Can you explain :confused:

I'm not sure why it is posted. I know Kerry linked it to her site so I am guessing she feels moved and inspired by it. It is certainly beautiful.

[Calz]

It would appear this portion of the "mystery" has been "clarified" ...


http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
About my “kidnapping.”

2011/12/15

For the past couple of days the internet has been filled with reports that I have been kidnapped. The reason for this is that through a misunderstanding. I missed an appointment with Chodoin Daikaku, the head of many of the world’s largest martial arts societies and an important ally. When all attempts to contact me failed, he assumed something nefarious must have happened to me. Given the various attempts on my life and other harassment directed towards me by the cabal, that was an entirely realistic assumption.

The truth, however, is that I went to a stream by the mountains in order to have a private conversation with a certain individual. These days mobile phones are GPS enabled portable listening devices while drones and other surveillance technology make having a private conversation almost impossible. For that reason, I find it necessary to go near a loud (lots of static) stream in a narrow mountain valley to make sure I can have a private conversation. However, I can assure everybody that I am just fine and was not “kidnapped.”

[Kimberley]

Last Night Sean David Morton interviewed Benjamin Fulford in the first hour and Kerry Cassidy in the last segment.

Defiantly worth a listen if you are following this story!!

Much love to us all!! :luv:

*****************************************************


December 12/15/2011 Thursday - Sean David Morton brings you a Strange Universe of information and fun. Sean's Special guests were Benjamin Fulford in the first hour and Kerry Cassidy in the last segment.

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/Strange_Universe_11.html

Note: To Listen To Archived Show Click On The Show Date Below. If You Wish To Download Any Show To Your Computer, Right Click On Show Date And Select "Save Target As" Option.

[YvonneG]

Last Night Sean David Morton interviewed Benjamin Fulford in the first hour and Kerry Cassidy in the last segment.

Defiantly worth a listen if you are following this story!!

Much love to us all!! :luv:

*****************************************************


December 12/15/2011 Thursday - Sean David Morton brings you a Strange Universe of information and fun. Sean's Special guests were Benjamin Fulford in the first hour and Kerry Cassidy in the last segment.

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/Strange_Universe_11.html



Great...I love Sean...thanks so much Kimberley. I was listening To David at the Awake and Aware conference earlier and I honestly trust him more and more as a truly loving and genuine human being.

love to you
yvonne
:cool:

[YvonneG]

Interesting, Sean thinks the court case is not on Pacer.gov (yet we have seen it eh?) and then he reads the court case # and it is the wrong one--:rolleyes:

[NewFounderHome]

I was wondering, how long a court case like this can take to see true? How many years?

[Kimberley]

Interesting, Sean thinks the court case is not on Pacer.gov (yet we have seen it eh?) and then he reads the court case # and it is the wrong one--:rolleyes:

I was going to mention something about that...Sean obviously did not do his "home work" :-) But Ben straightened him out. FYI I like Sean he has become a new friend of mine. I filled in on his show on 11-11-11 and my guest was Santos Bunacci. And the a week or so later Sean had Santos on the show wow the two of them together was so high energy.

Yes Yvonne, I have always seen/felt David as a sweet kind loving man. I wish I could have been able to give him a big hug when he was feeling so upset. But like Sean & Ben said death threats are part of their life. David is so protected obviously since this was the first time he has been threatened.

Well it is feeling that this story is going to be a wait and see situation now that this drama has passed.

I do want to make a note that I do not think many are fully understanding and that is do not hold you breath for part 2... David said several times that he said all that was needed to be said in his interview with Kerry that he felt was the protection he needed. And I have not heard what he said on coast to coast last night but he was glad about that also.

I will be back in a few. I am going to find the coast to coast audio and I will post it...

Much Love :luv:

[YvonneG]

:party:
you simply rock Kimberley...thank you so much...
am now listening to Ben on Sean's show. I had never heard this before, the good guys now have the codes to the black screen...where the financial system creates money.

And given what I have heard for 2 years from some of the people who have been in touch with the "countries" etc would say that "the funding" was there. And of course, many people involved just felt it was BS and walked away. I wondered as well, but I have just waited and stayed inform. I hate to be so vague, I just don't want to bring up a discussion about "these people", but suffice it to say that they have been working on this using our Constitution and working with whatever is required with International law.

All I want to say here is that, this is yet another piece of puzzle of things that, although I believed it because a friend was the one to give firsthand info about this, as Ben said in his interview with David, it is all too fanatastic for the normal person to grok. And honestly, I ain't normal, and I still find myself in absolute amazement.

anyway,
lots of love to all...and I don't mean gushy love, but the Power of Love

[Kimberley]

Ok Here is the 3:30 minute clip of DW on Coast to Coast last night.

http://www.kjinterviews.com/Audio/DW-C2C.mp3

http://www.kjinterviews.com/Audio/DW-C2C.mp3

[YvonneG]

David's most recent update...if someone wants to post this on the other thread about David etc. they can. I do not wish to visit the other thread where it seems there is more venting therapy going on then anything else. Peace

UPDATE SATURDAY 12/17, 10:45 PM

The new article has forced me to do a lot of research and preparation, including a summary overview before I go into the interview section. However, I must say it is truly remarkable to see how it is all coming together.

I really love writing, and other than The Source Field Investigations, this is the most invigorating and amazing trail of research I've ever gotten involved in. The stakes are high -- but the amazement factor is off the charts.

Once I finish Part Two, I have to send it off to the others involved for a final proofread and approval -- but hopefully we can get this all cleared up and posted tomorrow.

Thanks again for all your courage and support in helping me promote this vitally-needed truth. I do truly owe you my life, as if you didn't care about this story, I could have disappeared.

The truth will not be stopped. Humanity will be set free. This is what we need to do to create the world we deserve.

[Kimberley]

Hey for those of you watching this thread I just learned something that is so interesting...

check this out:

"Benjamin Fulford's great grandfather was G.T. Fulford. He was one of the richest men in the world – George Taylor Fulford. You can find him on Wikipedia. He was one of the richest men on Earth, and he was the largest single shareholder in General Electric. He was going to finance Nikola Tesla, but he was murdered by the Rockefellers in 1905. It was made to look like a car accident."

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/ben-fulford-some-personal-information-you-might-find-of-interest-thanks-to-espritkelly/

and be sure to read this too..

http://rense.com/general77/ful2.htm

Much love :luv:

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey for those of you watching this thread I just learned something that is so interesting...

check this out:

"Benjamin Fulford's great grandfather was G.T. Fulford. He was one of the richest men in the world – George Taylor Fulford. You can find him on Wikipedia. He was one of the richest men on Earth, and he was the largest single shareholder in General Electric. He was going to finance Nikola Tesla, but he was murdered by the Rockefellers in 1905. It was made to look like a car accident."

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/ben-fulford-some-personal-information-you-might-find-of-interest-thanks-to-espritkelly/

and be sure to read this too..

http://rense.com/general77/ful2.htm

Much love :luv:

Yes this was mentioned in one of his very first interviews...excellent reminder of why he is where he is now !!

Thanks Kimberly for the timely reminder...

viking

[humanalien]

What does RV mean? Ben and others talk about it
but i can't find a meaning for it?

In one of bens Q and A interviews, he is saying that
the prosperity package will happen before the RV does
and i'm at a loss as to what RV means...

[araucaria]

RV = remote viewing?

Thanks for reminding us of that, Kimberley. A fatal car accident back in 1905 does sound a little suspicious, doesn't it? Notice how Ben's great-grandfather was the one advising Mackenzie King through his great-grandmother.

[Kimberley]

What does RV mean? Ben and others talk about it
but i can't find a meaning for it?

In one of bens Q and A interviews, he is saying that
the prosperity package will happen before the RV does
and i'm at a loss as to what RV means...

When talking about money and currency's they are talking about Iraq dinar ReValuation..

In this case he is not referring to remote viewing but great guess :-) I still see acronyms that I have no clue what they mean such as what does "fwiw" mean?

Here is more info about what they are talking about as far as RV

"HISTORY The Iraq Dinar was worth $3.22 USD (U.S. Dollars) in 1992. After the first Gulf War the Dinar dropped in value to approximately $0.30, under the U.S. Embargo. Iraq is now free to trade internationally and most of it's international debt has been relieved. If the Iraq Dinar returns to pre-war levels of $0.30 a 1000 Dinar note would be worth $300.00!"

More of the story is here: http://buydinar.org/DinarFacts.html FYI Bill Ryan believes there is NO way the Dinar will RV.


And just to be sure this is noted at 7:33pm Pacific tiem David WIlcock posted part 2 "The Trillion-Dollar Lawsuit That Could End Financial Tyranny, Part II: History Lesson"

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1022-lawsuit-end-tyranny-ii

I have not read it yet...

Much love :luv:

[humanalien]

In that same interview, Ben and a caller, i think, are talking
about a beast that is about 5 football fields long. Any idea
about what type of beast they are referring to?

[araucaria]

Thanks Kimberley. I've just remote viewed an acronym finder, for what it's worth (fwiw)!

[Kimberley]

In that same interview, Ben and a caller, i think, are talking
about a beast that is about 5 football fields long. Any idea
about what type of beast they are referring to?

Sorry I can not help answer this question...I have no Idea...

[humanalien]

I made a small and incomplete rundown of things that
are suppose to happen. I don't see how all of this is
going to happen in a two week period.

All of this is suppose to happen when all of our soldiers
in Iraq come home and they just finished doing that.

If i have any incorrect info in here, please let me know.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RV means Revalue our money. Thanks Kimberly

The prosperity package, is money from the government
that they are going to give us, free and clear. Quite
a large sum to. Possibly 100 thousand a year for 11 years.

All americans and possibly all people, all over the world
that are over 21, will receive money back from their governments.

Prosperity package comes out before the money RV

All debts that involved using your S.S. number will be wiped out.

Obama is a good guy. He is acting the part of a bad guy.

Obama has two parents, both are american citizens, regardless
of what you may have read about him.

All bad people in governments, world wide, will be arrested
and executed.

The reason why all tv station had that emergency broadcast system
test, was so that later on, all of this news will be broadcast live.
Everything will be told to us.

Everything should happen before the end of this year.

The money value system will change. Something now that costs 10
dollars, will cost 1 dollar. A five hundred thousand dollar home
will cost 50 thousand dollars. The dollar will be backed by gold,
silver and platinum.

Medical care will change completely. There are cures for about every
disease out there but they have been suppressed. These will be made
available.

Free energy sources will be made available to all.

Cell phone service will be free. You just buy the phone. A five
hundred dollar phone now, will cost you 50 bucks when this all
comes down.

We are going back to using the U.S. treasury again. The central
and federal banks will be shut down and the people running them
will be arrested and executed.

This is a world wide thing, not just america.

Our government will be severely downgraded. We don't need all that
power. The world will live in peace.

A new home will be taxed but if you decide to sell it, there will
be no taxes on it. No property or income taxes either.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Like i said, this is just a partial list of what i got out of bens interview.

[sunnyrap]

Just happened to have read up on this:



Photo of UFOs taken by Corral Gayle and Mary Sutherland
over Pine Street in Burlington, Wi 8-7-2004

This is cropped and enlarged. Notice the lights on the horseshoe and
dark spots.
SPACE CRITTERS
Inspired by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's "Horror of the Heights," the writings of Charles Fort, and
perhaps H.P. Lovecraft's "From Beyond," Constable postulated that we share our world with
huge invisible creatures related to the protozoa. The sky overhead is filled with these beings,
who may have some intelligence, and are sensitive to radar and radio waves. Some of them are
perhaps carnivorous, and responsible for the spate of cattle mutilations which has become such
a problem in the past half-century. Constable's discovery of these creatures makes him the
equal of Anton van Leeuwenhoek, inventor of the first microscope, and discover of another
invisible world which exists outside the reach of our unaided vision.

Just as Leeuwenhoek had his microscope, so too did Constable have his camera, fitted with
black lens filter and loaded with infrared film, with which he took photographs of a seemingly
empty sky. When developed, the pictures showed organisms nearly identical to the amebae,
euglenae, and paramecia which exist all around us, but with the difference that Constable's
critters were vastly larger, like invisible whales and sharks of the atmosphere. These creatures
are perhaps responsible for some of the sightings of UFOs throughout the ages. Through his
application of technology, Constable had made visible a new world with strange new creatures
in it, which had previously remained unknown to us.
The discovery itself would be sufficient cause for celebration, but the book also includes an
account of the psychologist Wilhelm Reich's battle with these creatures at Orgonon, his estate in
Maine

These critters, about which official science neither knows nor wishes to know anything, may
have inhabited the earth's atmosphere for millions of years. Since they exist just beyond the red
end of the spectrum, they are normally invisible to the naked eye. They can, however,
occasionally be glimpsed under special conditions. They are regularly detected by radar, when
they are often mistaken for mechanical UFOs, although in one reported sighting the USAF
described their behavior as being more like that of "animals." More usual is that when pilots are
sent up to buzz them they report seeing nothing. Critters also, as Constable discovered, can be
photographed using an ordinary camera, infra-red film, and an 18a filter which blocks visible
light.

There are evidently many different kinds of critter. Although they are often disc-shaped and can
easily be mistaken for flying saucers, they can also look like giant bacteria, amoeba, or even
glowing jelly fish. Also, like flying saucers, they can attain to incredible speeds, execute rapid
manoeuvres, and become invisible at wish by suddenly fading from sight.

From Wikipedia:

The extraterrestrial energyzoa hypothesis can be dated back to Trevor James Constable's "Sky Critter Theory", which is perhaps one of the strangest theories advanced as an explanation for the UFO phenomenon. Trevor James Constable was one of the proponents of the theory, claiming that UFO's came from a parallel universe known as Etheria and that there were two categories of UFO, some were machines and others living creatures. These invisible creatures he called "Sky Critters" and that they live in the atmosphere. Constable claimed to have captured both types of UFO on film, while working with James Woods during the 1950's and 60's. He wrote several books on the theory "They live in the Sky" in 1959, [2] under the pen name Trevor James, and "Sky Creatures: Living UFO's" in 1978. [3]
According to Constable, these bioforms, which are invisible to normal sight, can be recorded by infrared film and special techniques devised by Constable and described in his book "The Cosmic Pulse of Life: The Revolutionary Biological Power Behind Ufo's". [4] These objects, which Constable claims are an integral part of the overall UFO scene, are biological organisms native to our atmosphere and not extraterrestrial spaceships. When such bioforms enter the spectrum of visible light, they appear as rapidly moving, pulsatory light sources and are mutually confused with the more classical, structured interdimensional machines known as flying saucers.

[Bo Atkinson]

Hi and thanks everyone for thoughts and links...

Ben said he was sending a pdf and Sean seemed to acknowledge receiving the file... The file seemed to distinguish the real case from the first posted case # David made on his site...

Has anyone found a link for the actual case itself, as much as it is publicly displayed?

In any case it does seem that Ben was in the process of telling the bad guys to stand down and allow multiple? lawsuits to go through due process and arrests. (Even a tip to body guards, perhaps trolls too: "Get out now", look the other way and not get arrested themselves).

I have been trying to understand a number of lawsuits, possibly now becoming just a little 'aligned' with this lawsuit.... I wonder if this case also ups the pressure.

“Dissolving the IRS and the Federal Reserve: Christmas Gift for America” with Thomas Bradford Schaults, Private Attorney General

http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/truth-and-freedom/ 12/02/11 podcast

[humanalien]

Just happened to have read up on this:



Photo of UFOs taken by Corral Gayle and Mary Sutherland
over Pine Street in Burlington, Wi 8-7-2004



I think you put this in the wrong forum.

[ThePythonicCow]

Just happened to have read up on this:



Photo of UFOs taken by Corral Gayle and Mary Sutherland
over Pine Street in Burlington, Wi 8-7-2004

I agree with humanalien -- looks like you might have intended to post this on some UFO thread -- not on this thread?

[Muzz]

Hi folks. Part 2 (http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1022-lawsuit-end-tyranny-ii) is out and I can see theres already a new thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37011-DAVID-WILCOCK-...Part-2&p=384178#post384178) started by viking which has a healthy dicussion ongoing. Just though Id post here for who didnt know.
Cheers
Muzz

[sunnyrap]

Oops. I did paste it in the wrong box. Apologies, everyone.



Just happened to have read up on this:



Photo of UFOs taken by Corral Gayle and Mary Sutherland
over Pine Street in Burlington, Wi 8-7-2004

I agree with humanalien -- looks like you might have intended to post this on some UFO thread -- not on this thread?

[ThePythonicCow]

Oops. I did paste it in the wrong box. Apologies, everyone.
I can move it if you like ... or delete this one if you've already reposted it elsewhere.

[YvonneG]

Hey for those of you watching this thread I just learned something that is so interesting...

check this out:

"Benjamin Fulford's great grandfather was G.T. Fulford. He was one of the richest men in the world – George Taylor Fulford. You can find him on Wikipedia. He was one of the richest men on Earth, and he was the largest single shareholder in General Electric. He was going to finance Nikola Tesla, but he was murdered by the Rockefellers in 1905. It was made to look like a car accident."

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/ben-fulford-some-personal-information-you-might-find-of-interest-thanks-to-espritkelly/

and be sure to read this too..

http://rense.com/general77/ful2.htm

Much love :luv:


Very sweet...I knew Ben's great grandfather was owner of a Bank or something. I heard Ben on the youtube video when he interview Rockefeller mention something about his Great Grandfather's ghost visiting the Canadian Prime Minister...Ben is far more then we imagined.

thanks Kimberley...this is a great find.

love
yvonne

[humanalien]

I was just wondering if anyone here believes that there
is any truth about this NESARA thing.

I wasn't believing in it to much, until i went to Duncan O's
blog and read his latest reply to kerry's post about him.

He was telling kerry that all NESARA has to do is snap a
finger and the whole country could be shut down, instantly.

I tend to believe Duncan when he speaks because he isn't out
there looking for a fan base or popularity. Nor is he looking
for handouts and making money selling books about his
past. He pretty much keeps to himself.

Because of that, i put a lot of trust in him and believe that
he tells the truth, whether anyone is ready to hear it or not.

This is why i was wondering if anyone else thinks that
NESARA might be real.

[YvonneG]

Canadians go against Global Banks in Canada's Federal Court! ;)

http://canadianawareness.org/2011/12/global-financial-powers-challenged-in-the-canadian-federal-court/

[JoshERTW]

Canadians go against Global Banks in Canada's Federal Court! ;)

http://canadianawareness.org/2011/12/global-financial-powers-challenged-in-the-canadian-federal-court/

I was just about to post this same story - Going to put it up on Facebook etc. when I get off work. Have already emailed it to as many people as I think will care and maybe pass it on or take action themselves.

I've got to wonder if these developments are related...

[Muzz]

Hi folks

Kerry has posted this on her blog (http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html), which is relevant to this thread.

Preliminary summary and comments: The above are excerpts from the Keenan Lawsuit. As the lawsuit details the funds have been stolen by a host of devious players... Not the least of which is Leo Zagami... who was instrumental in this clearly preplanned and orchestrated scheme. It's actually fascinating reading.

What is clear is that the bonds were stolen from Keenan and the Dragon Family and that the group of characters involved in what is in essence a sting operation to steal the funds and force Keenan to enter into a trading program in secret without the knowledge of the Dragon Family....

However, it seems that the lawsuit itself is not enough to convict the United Nations, Davos Forum or certain individuals such as Berlusconi. Only releasing the information within the Book of Codes and related documents would have the impact on the financial system or cause members of governments to go down or to be charged, as far as I can see. The deception involved in perpetrating the farce behind the financial systems of the world is too vast. Clearly this is the beginning of the breakdown of the secrecy surrounding methods of operation, those involved and the massive Ponzi schemes that are used by the very rich to build 'projects' in 3rd world countries, run them into debt and then take control of their resources... all of it is wrapped into this story. Releasing the info in the Book of Codes is absolutely key... and at least according to this lawsuit that does not appear to be the intention. It is possible and even plausible that they will get some settlement on this lawsuit if only to prevent the release of anything to do with the Book of Codes.

I wager right now there are deals being offered and bargaining taking place madly behind the scenes in order to keep this case from ever seeing a courtroom and to keep the information cantained in the Book of Codes and Maklumat from ever seeing the light of day. It all depends what the real purpose is behind the lawsuit. Whether this was a ploy to raise the consciousness of the world as to how these people operate or whether simply cashing in their bonds and obtaining gold was the motivation remains to be seen.

Sorry, I guess I neglected to reply explicitly to that area of your post regarding why he held on to releasing until a few days later after the big build up to having to release Part II that night... Well, the whole point is what happened during the radio show!! Because of the counsel of Anonymous (not to be confused with any other person claiming to be Anonymous of which there are many all over the internet that being a generalized title for someone who prefers to remain uh, anonymous..

To continue. One must be able to grasp that what happened on my show was I brought on someone who represented a group who then made statements ON AIR that made it clear that David was not to be touched or there would be repercussions of the kind that those types (he said lower level on the power chain) understand. If you listen closely it was unmistakable. And after the show, he spoke with David to assure him of his safety.

That being achieved, and I had further confirmation from another source that it was.... David then didn't have to "obey" those threatening him who had been insisting he release the Part II by such and such a time (as I said) and it must have so many views etc or he wouldn't make it past 3 days. Why is this so hard to understand?

As I wrote on my blog... David could at that point say F--k you and do it in his own time. Which he did.

Again, one has to examine the situation from all angles. Regardless of how David took it this was a PSYOP and therefore the demands of the perpetrators could have simply been the trigger.

According to Rayelan from Rumor Mill News... (and no Anonymous is not the Shamus / Gunther's higher self) that she remembers although he may have been on a few starships... and yes I know him very well.... anyway, Rayelan insists that actually Keenan and group are part of the Bush cabal and they are using David and the lawsuit to try to steal more gold... I have no more info than that. But I will endeavor to get Rayelan on my show and get more details on her pov or theory on all of this.

There is simply no doubt that David is late to this whole who is hiding the gold game (at least in this incarnation) and so he is trying (as we all are) to get up to speed on the convoluted aspects of this story. Meanwhile, although I haven't finished reading Part 2 yet... I can say that I know from other sources unrelated to David's sources that this is a story that goes off world and does involve the Anunnaki...

As far as sales of his book, web traffic spikes and so on.. Well if you don't think his fear and crying were real then you need to check your heart chakra for signs of life... He is not that desperate in fact with a best selling book he really didn't need threats on his life in order to get more sales!!

Please try to wrap your minds around the notion that he, I and many like us are in this for the SERVICE TO OTHERS aspect and we want to change the world and save humanity... That's our priority. And yes, we would all like to pay the rent in order to continue to fight another day. In fact we would all like to live well because among other things it's fun and as they say living well is the best revenge. Indeed it is... f----k em. The PTW that is... Scarcity is the old world paradigm by the way.... just sayin.

I think that answers the questions you wrote me about.

Best wishes,

Kerry

[araucaria]

In that same interview, Ben and a caller, i think, are talking
about a beast that is about 5 football fields long. Any idea
about what type of beast they are referring to?

I may be mistaken, but wasn't it some underground vault of gold bullion in Tawan or thereabouts?

[humanalien]

In that same interview, Ben and a caller, i think, are talking
about a beast that is about 5 football fields long. Any idea
about what type of beast they are referring to?

I may be mistaken, but wasn't it some underground vault of gold bullion in Tawan or thereabouts?

I don't know. I got lost on that part...

[Semnyi]

gold vault

[GlassSteagallfan]

This lawsuit is gaining alt media attention. Here it is on Activist Post: http://www.activistpost.com/2011/12/unprecedented-lawsuit-reveals-bizarre.html
Other websites have linked to it also.

[YvonneG]

Thank you Kerry for this post on your blog.

;)

[Kirsten_in_LA]

This is my first time posting to this forum, so forgive my inexperience at editing and doing things correctly the first time...

This lawsuit seems to be a confusing matter for lay people who don't understand how cases get filed, tracked, etc., so I'm going to do my best to lay it out for y'all...

There is no "link for the case being publically displayed" unless you pay for it. The closest thing to a publically displayed link of the case is what David posted on his website. (http://divinecosmos.com/media/Keenan_complaint_11-23-2011_SDNY.pdf)

1. A case gets filed, ya get a case number that is FILE STAMPED with the case number, the date it was filed with the court and the name of the assigned judge.

2. David posted a FILE STAMPED copy of the complaint that shows it was FILED with the court on his blog post and here's the URL of the 111 page Complaint in PDF:
http://divinecosmos.com/media/Keenan_complaint_11-23-2011_SDNY.pdf

3. I looked at the copy of the complaint, saw the FILE STAMP from the Court (looks legit to me) and used the case number to search PACER

4. PACER is the document storage and service system for all pleadings (i.e. "documents") filed with the U.S. Federal Courts so that anyone can access copies of the documents for a fee (i.e. you have to sign up with a credit card because any time you search for a case number and get the docket information or any time you want a copy of a pleading, then you have to pay the court for their maintenance of these copies - about 8 cents a page or a search depending on what it is)... this is a normal, typical practice for the Federal Court system and any law firm who practices litigation within the Federal Court system has a PACER account (i.e. bankruptcy cases, appeals and anything that is Fed. jurisdiction)

David provided us with the 111 page document for free so that we can all read it (i.e. he saved us all $8.88 in going to get our own copies). I have no idea why Sean David Morton said in his interview with Ben Fulford, "David has incorrect case information posted on his blog about this case." Because David has CORRECT information posted on his blog, I went and searched it myself and the case number right on the PDF version of the Complaint, no need to search for a "keenan".

The PDF version David posted appears to be what was filed with the Southern District of New York. If you're not convinced its the same document, simply go to www.pacer.gov, sign up for an account, search for the case number and this will pop up (see attached PDF for the screen shot of the case number docket search)... Notice #3... I copied this directly from PACER... same case number as what is on the PDF version David posted in his blog. All three of these are active, pending cases because there is no date entered in the "Date Closed" section.

[Grizzom]

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I found the source of this M1 character talked about in the trillion dollar law suit.

I heard about this about a year ago from a guy named Kieth Edwards of yashua nation, he has a mp3 that goes over this M1 brief.

http://50.76.131.106/tyn/archives.html

Public TYN Broadcast 2 http://recording.freeconferencecalling.com/mp3/1019857/832954/IA1205_03022011155951362_1152894.mp3

Here it is, seems to orginate from fourwinds.com? http://www.scribd.com/doc/53334150/history-banking

Here's Bens original story, compare it with the M1 brief and you'll see what I mean The lawsuit that could end the gangster rule of Western civilization

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2011/11/the-lawsuit-that-could-end-the-gangster-rule-of-western-civilization.html

I hope this story is for real, but after all the source has the nick name "Bull**** Ben" so we shall see.

Cheers

[Muzz]

From David Wilcocks new article

Pentagon sources have said the trillion-dollar lawsuit I have reported on, and will cover again here, is one of several key strategies to make us aware of the urgent need for these mass arrests.

The group must be tackled by strictly legal means, so there is no possibility of confusion. Then, in the ensuing investigation, many other suppressed truths will emerge.

also discussed here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38595-FINANCIAL-TYRANNY-by-David-Wilcock&p=402645#post402645)