So how much more are people going to allow?

[Lord Sidious]

Have a look at this disgusting video avalonuggets.
How much more of this are people going to allow before they say enough?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=channel_page&v=bJF5cUWXA_A

http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2009/12/quick-update-on-my-husbands-border.html

[Heyoka_11]

I really try to not hate, but s**t like that makes it a hard task.

Just another night at the office for those uniformed thugs.

Cheers Rob.

OK , I'll add to that..........

It's not so much the thugs that I hate, it's what's controlling them; the collective mentality.

For the individual thugs, as hard as it may be, I have to feel sorrow, very deep sorrow.

[Lefty Dave]

Sad days for amerika and the world...

Often wonder what kind of mindset these 'officials' must have... to act in the manner shown above....are they even human?
Doesn't appear to be any end to this madness...in reality...it gets worse here every day....

[Seikou-Kishi]

This is nothing new. These are common thugs surrounding uncommon villains because those villains can give them the opportunities to exercise the vicious and vindictive part of themselves — oh, all in their service, personal violence is unseemly, after all, but when it's state-endorsed, it's not only justified it's bloody good fun!

[Ernie Nemeth]

The ignorance of the blind masses is starting to truly irritate me.
So many lost in a dream.
I wish I wasn't awake.

[Lord Sidious]

The ignorance of the blind masses is starting to truly irritate me.
So many lost in a dream.
I wish I wasn't awake.

Don't let it get to you Ernienugget.
Everyone is working at their own pace.
Many here wouldn't have dreamed they would be on a forum like this five years ago and I include myself in that, even though I knew stuff back then.
So, despair not, tomorrow is another day.













































Or some s**t. :p

[Intranuclear]

This is why I have stopped traveling. If enough people stop traveling, maybe these A$$holes may just lose their jobs. I can at least hope.

[Lord Sidious]

This is why I have stopped traveling. If enough people stop traveling, maybe these A$$holes may just lose their jobs. I can at least hope.

Wrong way around.
We need MORE to travel and go through their checkpoints and not play their game.
Then they won't be able to continue.

Check this out.
Same checkpoint.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7U82ehS9Q&feature=player_embedded

[Heyoka_11]

Or some s**t. :p

Hush Rob! Now is not the time for humour; it's a sirri-arse thread :lol:

Love ya' man!

[Mark]

It's not much better to the north. My lady and her mother go down to the states to shop for food cause its half the price and last time, a few days ago, the border patrol interrogated her mother, telling her to take her glasses off, asking her about her non-existent criminal record and otherwise intimidating her. She's over 70 years old.

I like how in the second video, when asked if he was an American citizen, the guy responded, "Is that a legal question?" The officer looked at him for a moment and then waved him through the checkpoint, 50 MILES FROM THE BORDER. SMFH.

[58andfixed]

Very human. It's in our nature, of how humans abuse power, conform to peer pressure, follow authority, even with guilt, cognitive dissonance and conflict with our morals.

Time to review "FFV Doc: The Stanford Prison Experiment ."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_huJo9FOkI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_huJo9FOkI

29m 1,334 views

Posted May 7, 2011

"The Stanford prison experiment was a study of the psychological effects of becoming a prisoner or prison guard."

"The experiment was conducted from August 14th to 20th, 1971 by a team of researchers led by Psychology professor Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University."

"Twenty-four students were selected out of 75 to play the prisoners and live in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building."

****

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

"..a study of the psychological effects of becoming a prisoner or prison guard."

****

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

".. a series of notable social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram, which measured the willingness of study participants to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts that conflicted with their personal conscience."

****

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments

"The Solomon Asch conformity experiments were a series of studies published in the 1950s that demonstrated the power of conformity in groups."

"These are also known as the Asch Paradigm."

****

Philip Zimbardo, both the 'Obedience Experiment' [aka Stanley Milgram Experiment] and the 'Prisoner Experiment' were featured in "I Am Fishead" documentary.

http://www.fisheadmovie.com/

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The essence is the abuse of power, and how people not only deeply divide, but how absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It is not that this information is unknown. It is only the common man is not familiar with this information -- we don't know what we don't know.

- 58




Often wonder what kind of mindset these 'officials' must have... to act in the manner shown above....are they even human?

[Fred Steeves]

Does anybody remember the rationale during the big rollout of tasers a few years ago? Remember how many lives their implementation was supposed to save because the cop had a 'tool' to use in lieu of a gun in a life or death situation? Yeah right.

Thanks for pointing out our daily dose of reality Rob. You know what? The more I see this happen, the more I'm thinking when they taser one of us in this manner, they taser us all. Sure it may not have been you or I yet, but the noose is tightening, and the corral is narrowing.

This must stop...And stop it will...

[mahalall]

Watched a few times to enable a deeper understanding of what is occurring, what is the problem and how we can develop from this.
Working through the issues one comes to police training. When one views boarder police training it is clear that more emphasis is placed on a strong arm than on good mediation and conflict resolution communication skills.
Is this the way it should be done? I'm not sure but it is certainly better than the present police model!
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valuable police advice from 4.04

[Jonathon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5DHv3aNe-8c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5DHv3aNe-8c

[Lord Sidious]

Excellent.
Thanks for that Jonathon, I take back most of the bad things I said about you. :eek:

[Jonathon]

LOL much obliged...

[truth4me]

The ignorance of the blind masses is starting to truly irritate me.
So many lost in a dream.
I wish I wasn't awake.I won't go as far as saying "I wish I wasn't awake" but believe me I understand your frustration with the blind masses. I connect with the spirit within and it tells me if I'm on the right course. Also I meditate hard on helping control my emotions dealing with the asleep ones. Understand or better yet think about this. If earth is a school room and the only way to advance a grade is to be awake spiritually then we are on our way. So just like a regular school on earth--- as long as you finish the school year out by finishing your work you will graduate on time if you blunder at the end you might have to take summer school classes to finish. As long as we stay the course and help our asleep siblings and try to do it right till we die then maybe we skip another lifetime here in summer school earth.......:angel:

[Seikou-Kishi]

"Violence, when it's sanctioned by the state, is acceptable to us because we regard individual acts of violence with repugnance"

A poignant quote (apparently sampled from a film) in a song I like.

[blake]

Does anybody remember the rationale during the big rollout of tasers a few years ago? Remember how many lives their implementation was supposed to save because the cop had a 'tool' to use in lieu of a gun in a life or death situation? Yeah right.

Thanks for pointing out our daily dose of reality Rob. You know what? The more I see this happen, the more I'm thinking when they taser one of us in this manner, they taser us all. Sure it may not have been you or I yet, but the noose is tightening, and the corral is narrowing.

This must stop...And stop it will...

Hello Fred,

And just how is it going to be stopped? "With the currency of love" that some on this forum like to speak of? You write it will stop.............I would like to know how becasue I don't see the majority of people, including on this forum, doing much thinking about how its going to be stopped, let alone taking any well thought out action to make it stop. So are your words just an emotional reaction to an ugly situation or do they have any teeth behind them?

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

[Cartomancer]

I've had the bounce the ball in front of the dog and say it is hitting on narcotics gambit played on me more than once sans the tasering and beating. This is one of the biggest lies in law enforcement meant to search what they damn well want to search regardless of what the law says. These guys think that the law is b.s. and circumvent it in any way possible simply for their convenience. They have lots of prison guards who need jobs after all. It's like a freaking meant grinder with these people. They truly are vampires and don't even realize it. See how easy it is people? Is search and seizure this easy in Europe or elesewhere? This is like an extremely poorly produced and poorly written WWII movie. Achtung, Achtung!! "May I see your papers?" Sig Heil!!!!

[Etherios]

did you guys see how they ganged up like hyenas? there were like 10 police thugs against 1 tasered pastor. Nice they overwelmed him lolol...

lets see these cowards when they are hunted by thousand of angry people ... they will cry while running like headless chickens.

[kersley]

Wow.
i'm just speechless. Surely these beings are mind controlled or completely removed from the rest of us.. Where is the love? what about respect?
A good question Sid, How much more?

[Kindling]

I agree Sid! How much more?? So crazy.

I actually understand the desperate need for border control – because of the terrible drug related violence that occurs in border towns (on both sides of the border).

I have to admit that part of me wondered when I first watched the vid in the op why he didn't just get out of the car, allow the search, and answer their questions. But the horrible abuse of power that followed was inexcusable!!! The authorities are just so out of control and sadistic – imo anyway.

I live in a border state and this immigration issue is SO heated with the people I know. Seems that most are just no longer capable of being rational about it. I have lost relationships trying to debate the issue with close family and friends.

Yes, border control is absolutely necessary – to stop the violence and drug trafficking. As usual though, the government's answer is to give sadistic law enforcement people permission to violate our rights, break any law, etc... in the name of protecting us.

I'm very glad the pastor was found innocent of all charges. I would love to see the Mexicans, Mexican Americans, (and anyone who happens to look like they might possibly be Mexican) stop being treated like criminals just because of the color of their skin. What happened to the pastor is happening to them all the time now, and the atmosphere is so filled with hate for the Mexican people that nobody even cares how horrible they are being treated. The Mexican Americans I know want fair immigration laws that really work and strong border control just as much as we do and don't deserve to have their human and American rights violated.

Anyway, I don't claim to know the answers but I know what happened to that pastor and what is happening to others is damn sure NOT the answer.

Love and light even tho this makes me very angry - lol :-)

[Lord Sidious]

I agree Sid! How much more?? So crazy.

I actually understand the desperate need for border control – because of the terrible drug related violence that occurs in border towns (on both sides of the border).

I have to admit that part of me wondered when I first watched the vid in the op why he didn't just get out of the car, allow the search, and answer their questions. But the horrible abuse of power that followed was inexcusable!!! The authorities are just so out of control and sadistic – imo anyway.

I live in a border state and this immigration issue is SO heated with the people I know. Seems that most are just no longer capable of being rational about it. I have lost relationships trying to debate the issue with close family and friends.

Yes, border control is absolutely necessary – to stop the violence and drug trafficking. As usual though, the government's answer is to give sadistic law enforcement people permission to violate our rights, break any law, etc... in the name of protecting us.

I'm very glad the pastor was found innocent of all charges. I would love to see the Mexicans, Mexican Americans, (and anyone who happens to look like they might possibly be Mexican) stop being treated like criminals just because of the color of their skin. What happened to the pastor is happening to them all the time now, and the atmosphere is so filled with hate for the Mexican people that nobody even cares how horrible they are being treated. The Mexican Americans I know want fair immigration laws that really work and strong border control just as much as we do and don't deserve to have their human and American rights violated.

Anyway, I don't claim to know the answers but I know what happened to that pastor and what is happening to others is damn sure NOT the answer.

Love and light even tho this makes me very angry - lol :-)

Oh, I know the reasons for border control too, pity there isn't any.
The reason the guy didn't get out?
He doesn't have to and what they are doing is unlawful.
Those who co operate with unlawful actions become part of the problem.
I would not play the game, let me tell you.

[John Parslow]

Hello M'Lord

To say I was incensed by that video is to put things very mildly it begs the question how these cowardly thugs appear to have so much brutal power over the very people they are in place to protect! Much like the bully who pepper-sprayed those young students kneeling quietly in another thread how would he have dealt with it were his own daughter amongst the crowd? I just don't understand how these neo-Nazi's can live with themselves or their famies knowing what they just did. It is despicable bullying of the worse kind - I would love to get these animals on a one-to-one basis and just see what they are really made of ... sorry - rant over, once again thanks for bringing us this video and once again I beg all subjugated Americans to wake up before you have no rights as a human left.

Best regards. JP :cool:

[Cartomancer]

Those guys were fired up for the big game. Coach says that if we beat a pastor this week we might go to nationals. Rah Rah. Roids anyone?

[Fred Steeves]

Does anybody remember the rationale during the big rollout of tasers a few years ago? Remember how many lives their implementation was supposed to save because the cop had a 'tool' to use in lieu of a gun in a life or death situation? Yeah right.

Thanks for pointing out our daily dose of reality Rob. You know what? The more I see this happen, the more I'm thinking when they taser one of us in this manner, they taser us all. Sure it may not have been you or I yet, but the noose is tightening, and the corral is narrowing.

This must stop...And stop it will...

Hello Fred,

And just how is it going to be stopped? "With the currency of love" that some on this forum like to speak of? You write it will stop.............I would like to know how becasue I don't see the majority of people, including on this forum, doing much thinking about how its going to be stopped, let alone taking any well thought out action to make it stop. So are your words just an emotional reaction to an ugly situation or do they have any teeth behind them?

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

Unbending and unyielding intent comes to mind. In a universe of infinite possibility, once this is established in all purity, the details rest with the four winds. They will have their say, rest assured.

[Calz]

Interestingly enough the pepper spray incident has really hardened and heightened resolve at least on college campuses from what I have been hearing.

Some of the other violence has an effect as well, no doubt, but the vids of the pepper spray have gone viral worldwide.

[eric charles]

This reminds me of a very recent film , called The Experiment with Adrian Brody and Forrest Whitaker , very strange film indeed http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0997152/ wich depicts exactly the video 58and fixed posted , put very ordinary people in a possition of power , and CHAOS will ensue .

[Calz]

Always enjoy this one regardless of how many times I have heard it.

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[KosmicKat]

...are they even human?

Careful there! Once we start deciding who is and who is not human, we are on a very slippery slope!

[Ecnal61]

Heyoka 11 like you i try not to bring my self down with negativity..but its hard not to when watching those bast..ds. truly bad and yet this crap is being perpetrated on innocent peeps all over the world which is why ascension cant come soon enough.

[Jenci]

Shocking video. I found it very difficult to watch.....but thanks for posting it.
Jeanette

[modwiz]

...are they even human?

Careful there! Once we start deciding who is and who is not human, we are on a very slippery slope!

We might be on the path of liberation as well. The situation at hand is not what it appears to be and certain trains of thought, like yours, are already factored in and a risk/benefit ratio is formed. There are those who even having been born human have abdicated. Being unaware of this is a very slippery slope, into our own hell.

Your kind and generous heart is noted and appreciated.