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jackovesk
26th November 2011, 18:01
Climategate scientists DID collude with government officials to Hide Research that didn't fit their Apocalyptic Global Warming..!


5,000 leaked emails reveal scientists deleted evidence that cast doubt on claims climate change was man-made
Experts were under orders from US and UK officials to come up with a 'strong message'
Critics claim: 'The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering'
Scientist asks, 'What if they find that climate change is a natural fluctuation? They'll kill us all'

25th November 2011

More than 5,000 documents have been leaked online purporting to be the correspondence of climate scientists at the University of East Anglia who were previously accused of ‘massaging’ evidence of man-made climate change.

Following on from the original 'climategate' emails of 2009, the new package appears to show systematic suppression of evidence, and even publication of reports that scientists knew to to be based on flawed approaches.

And not only do the emails paint a picture of scientists manipulating data, government employees at the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) are also implicated.

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Former Chancellor Nigel Lawson was strongly critical of those who supported the 'Climategate' scientists

One message appeared to show a member of Defra staff telling colleagues working on climate science to give the government a ‘strong message’.

The emails paint a clear picture of scientists selectively using data, and colluding with politicians to misuse scientific information.

‘Humphrey’, said to work at Defra, writes: ‘I cannot overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a message that the government can give on climate change to help them tell their story.

'They want their story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made to look foolish.’
Professor Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at the centre of the affair, said the group findings did stand up to scrutiny.

Yet one of the newly released emails, written by Prof. Jones - who is working with the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) - said: 'Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden.

'I’ve discussed this with the main funder (U.S. Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.'

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The University of East Anglia, where most of the emails originated - none of the newly released emails appear to be post 2009, but clarify the extent of government involvement in the scandal

In another of his emails, he wrote: 'I’ve been told that Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is above national Freedom of Information Acts.

'One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process.'

Other scientists are clearly against such a policy, but some seemed happy to collude with concealing and destroying evidence.

One nervous scientist wrote: 'The figure you sent is very deceptive.'

'I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run,' wrote another.

The lead author of one of the reports, Jonathan Overpeck, wrote, 'The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guide what’s included and what is left out.'

A weak performance by Environment Secretary Chris Huhne on Question Time has helped to inflame the row over the second leak of private UEA emails - now described as Climategate 2.0.

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Professor Phil Jones, Director of the Climatic Research Unit, appears before the Science and Technology Committee after the last dump of leaked climate-change emails

Former Chancellor Nigel Lawson's Global Warming Policy Foundation warned against ignoring 'shortcomings' in a letter strongly critical of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

It said: 'The BBC, in determining its policy towards the coverage of global warming, which is of course not simply a scientific issue but an economic and a political issue, too, ought to shred that section of the Jones review and revert to the impartiality laid down in its charter.'
He was also strongly critical of sections of the media who lent support to the scientists.

Andrew Orlwowski, UK science site The Register's science correspondent comments on one email that says, 'What if climate change turns out to be a natural fluctuation? They'll kill us all'

Orlowski says, 'That won't be necessary.'

Clive Crook, a commentator for the Atlantic, who described the earlier inquiries into the Climategate emails as 'ineffectual' and 'mealy mouthed', reportedly said, 'The closed-mindedness of these supposed men of science, their willingness to go to any lengths to defend a preconceived message, is surprising even to me.


'The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering.'

There is other correspondence from scientists such as Prof Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Centre at Penn State University, some of which have a distinct feel of PR 'spin'.

The release of the information echoes the 'Climategate' leaks of hacked private emails two years ago ahead of crunch climate talks in Copenhagen that referred to ways to ‘hide the decline’ in global warming.

A series of independent reviews cleared the East Anglia researchers of impropriety, but they were told they had been too secretive.

Today's leak may also be timed to disrupt the next session of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change next week in South Africa.

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The new email leak is accompanied by a text file which appears to protest against the huge expense of anti-warming technologies - highlighting deaths from poverty against the $36 billion expense of 'green' energy

The emails have been released in the form of quotes carefully 'chosen' to show bias, or that scientists were pursuing a particular agenda in their research.

The unnamed individuals who released them chose the 5,000 emails from keyword searches, saying, 'We could not read every one, but tried to cover the most relevant topics.'

The emails were posted on a Russian server - Sinwt.ru - as a downloadable ZIP file in an apparent attempt to cause disruption in advance of next week's climate change conference in Durban.

They were rapidly reposted on climate-sceptic blogs such as The Air Vent.

It is not clear, though, whether they are new, or indeed whether they indicate any kind of conspiracy.

The release of the data was accompanied by a 'press release' in the form of a readme file, which said, 'Over 2.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day.'

'Poverty is a death sentence. Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilise greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels.'

'Today's decisions should be based on all the information we can get, not on hiding the decline,' said the file.

The identity of the people who posted it was not revealed - although the clear political statement is new.

The file also contains more than 200,000 other emails, which are encrypted, and no password is provided.

Presumably, this is to protect the individuals involved - or simply because the material is so non-controversial or boring that it's not worth releasing.

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NASA thermal satellite image showing the world's arctic surface temperature trends: Today's emails appear to show scientists interested in painting a particular picture of such trends - but the information is not new

The University of East Anglia has not confirmed whether the material is genuine.
None of the material appears to be new, either: it seems to date from the first release in 2009.
It also occurs against a rather different scientific background, after the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature review of climate-science data by prominent climate sceptic Richard Muller, which analysed 1.6 billion temperature records, and concluded that global warming was a genuine effect.

It is still unclear what effect - or combination of effects - is causing the current warming of the atmosphere, which has risen around one temperature in the past 50 years.

Professor Mann, speaking to the Guardian, described the release as 'truly pathetic.'

'Well, they look like mine but I hardly see anything that appears damning at all, despite them having been taken out of context.

'I guess they had very little left to work with, having culled in the first round the emails that could most easily be taken out of context to try to make me look bad.'

A police investigation is ongoing.

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PS - To those who invented and still support the 'Global Warming (SCAM)..!

Your 'Day of Reckoning' is coming, you 'Low Life' Scumbags (Especially Govts.)..!!!

Seikou-Kishi
26th November 2011, 18:40
Excellent read, thanks, Jacko, despite its having come from the Daily Mail. It's amazing how few people seem to give a damn about it though.

NewFounderHome
26th November 2011, 18:52
Did someone get a hand on the emails?

Amysenthia
26th November 2011, 19:15
Again the David Icke material supports this. During his Cleveland lecture on Nov 12th he spent a significant amount of time discussing that the whole climate change rubbish is a plan by "those who should not be named", to gain money selling carbon footprint credits or something like this. He contends that the global warming symptoms are a natural phenomena and part of the earth changes that are to take place at this time.

music
26th November 2011, 20:23
Is climate change science flawed and tainted by vested interest? Yes, on BOTH sides.
Will carbon taxation prevent climate change? No, it will merely convey the money of the poor to the rich without causing any reduction in CO2 outputs.
Is the situation regarding climate change complex? Yes, much more so than most appreciate.

Do we understand the systems involved? No, not fully, and it’s doubtful we ever will because we are talking about the interactions of multiple chaotic systems.

Is there purity of intent involved in the debate? Rarely.

In regard to climate change, the situation is far too complex, and the consequences too far reaching for us to allow politics or the flow of riches to dictate our responses. Data sets that contain all currently understood variables are too complex for sensible analysis, so we compartmentalise the data, then over-analyse it by e.g. inappropriate logarithmic transformation prior to already suspect statistical analysis methods to get the numbers we want. It happens on both sides here, and in much science. That said, while the role of CO2 in climate fluctuation is not understood, when one examines temperature and atmospheric CO2 levels of, say, 400 mya (Devonian period), we find the mean temperature was some 7 degrees C above what many would call the “optimum” climatic conditions for life on earth evidenced during the early Holocene. In fact, apart from the blip of the little ice age (1550-1850), we had a fairly stable climate for the last 9000 years. Atmospheric CO2 in the Devonian was up to 10 times the average for the Holocene (modern) period.

It is possible that the higher than expected rise in temperature evidenced after the little ice age may be CO2 related, or then again, it may not be related. It is also possible that CO2 is one of many factors, and indeed, this is the more likely scenario. Comparing atmospheric CO2 from ice cores to historic temperature estimates, or even using current data for both is fraught with difficulty. There are several possible reasons for observed temp/CO2 lags. Henry's Law deals with the absorption of gases by liquid. Basically, cold water absorbs up to 30% more CO2 from memory. There are also potential issues with differences in metabolic rates (plant and chemical) at different temperatures, and the issue of deposition, liberation (and C oxidation) of methane chelates (deep sea methane ice) to CO2 upon exposure. Excess atmospheric CO2 may not be the initial driver of climate change, but it may be an important catalyst in accelerated and extreme climatic fluctuations. The Greenhouse effect still works, CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and one which it is within our power to regulate. I don’t say tax carbon, I say phase out and cease the burning of fossil fuels as soon as we can. To do otherwise is insanity.

Jay
26th November 2011, 20:54
COP17 climate change talks are underway in Durban South Africa. Conference in itself is costing millions. It is UBER sickening how few people in the country seem to be aware of the foregoing. No outrage or discussions on what impact further scams will have... nada...
This in spite of the fact that the country is falling apart under the ANC regime. A country crippled with crime & corruption & forever pleading poverty. Govt hospitals go derelict, education etc. appalling. ANC have also set aside R100 mill ($11.7 mill) for their so-called birthday "celebrations". They are all over the place with COP17 & their celebrations but no-one bats an eyelid .......... :(