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kingmonkey
26th November 2011, 20:26
Hello there folks,

Im asking for advice and inspiration from any wise souls out there.

Im currently 'off track' in my life right now. Before any of you say im exactly where i should be right now, im not sure i resonate with the view that everything is preordained. My current view of the world is that we are continually creating/choosing our lives paths. Lets just say in many areas of my life i could be manifesting more positive outcomes for all involved.

I've been aware of the abraham material and it does agree with me in some way, but i have yet to apply it to my life.

Any of you peeps out there consistently use this stuff to consciously create your lives and do you have any tips for applying this stuff?

Secondly, im just playing with the Silva Life System material. I was wondering if any of you had come across this and used it in your life?

Thank you in advance for any advice.

Bob

Heyoka_11
26th November 2011, 20:41
Im currently 'off track' in my life right now.

G'day Bob,

If things feel a little off-track, then perhaps a brief numerology reading may help. It will assist you to understand your potentials at birth, and where your strengths in life may lie. From personal experience, I can vouch for their life changing potential, as my intended path was made much clearer to me.

Just PM me if this sounds like something you'd like to learn about.

Best Wishes,

Tony :)

NeverMind
26th November 2011, 21:00
If the New Testament doesn't do it for you, then try Neville Goddard.
And then COMMIT to it. This is essential. Stop shopping around for "methods" (who are all repeating the same thing that has been written thousands of years ago).
It's all about unshakeable faith. That's it. If you don't have it, nothing will work.
If you have it, it could not NOT work.

Good luck. :-)

jessamy99
26th November 2011, 21:39
Dear kingmonkey,

I hear you.
I have just a simple way of changing a direction in life.
What I do is to paint a picture of where I would like to be in 6 months time.
I draw a picture - stick men - I put words on the picture. I fill in all the details with sketching or words.
Then I think of one step I can take in that direction - a small step on the staircase - something I can manage.
Then I put the picture under my pillow.
It sounds bizarre, but it always works.

With love, Jessamy.

NeverMind
26th November 2011, 22:01
Dear kingmonkey,
It sounds bizarre, but it always works.


I bet it does. It's not bizarre at all, it's wonderful.
Clearly you have found something that works for YOU, which is invaluable.

For reaffirming and sustaining the faith needed to proceed when obstacles arise, I find the authors mentioned above very valuable (meaning Goddard and the Fab Four :-)).

Mark (Star Mariner)
26th November 2011, 22:12
This above all: to thine own self be true...

Thus said Shakespeare, and if applied properly this can work as a kind of mantra in helping you discover the person you want to be. Only you have the answers you seek. Discard for a moment all expectations, all conventions. Unclutter your mind and think on it: to thine own self be true... Through introspection truth will find us, and we will find truth.

TraineeHuman
26th November 2011, 22:45
The tough times are the times when you have the biggest opportunity to grow. First you have to eat your spinach, and if you keep at it the day will come when you get dessert. The day may even come when you get nothing but dessert -- or maybe it's just that then spinach always really tastes like dessert to you.

NeverMind
26th November 2011, 22:48
This above all: to thine own self be true...

Thus said Shakespeare, and if applied properly this can work as a kind of mantra in helping you discover the person you want to be. Only you have the answers you seek. Discard for a moment all expectations, all conventions. Unclutter your mind and think on it: to thine own self be true... Through introspection truth will find us, and we will find truth.

Shakespeare - or rather, the character that speaks these seemingly beautiful words - meant something entirely different, not quite as positive.
But that doesn't matter. The way YOU use and interpret those words, I could not agree more with you.
For those who want to find their path, there is no compass better than what you described.

Stillness, however, is essential, to hear one's true voice.

Deborah (ahamkara)
26th November 2011, 23:02
I totally understand your position. About one month ago, I was in a deep, nearly suicidal depression. A series of happenings bought the "Stress Free" tape from Louise Hay into my life and I slowly began to change my own vibration. After that I began applying the teachings of Abraham and also Wayne Dyer. It does work. The catch is you can't "want" you can't be attached to the outcome, instead you MUST be in the vibrational space of what you want already being present. This is a bit more difficult than it sounds. When I have been able to do this, the manifestion is nearly miraculous. We do manifest our reality, but we have been conditioned in many ways and for many years to give away our power. Good luck to you as you reclaim yours! Namaste.

TWINCANS
26th November 2011, 23:15
Hello there folks,

Im currently 'off track' in my life right now. My current view of the world is that we are continually creating/choosing our lives paths. Lets just say in many areas of my life i could be manifesting more positive outcomes for all involved.

Bob

(We totally love Louise Hay's material too.)
Here's an idea;

You say that you are off track. Can you write down your own 'on track' scenerio? (Sometimes we can't shift because we aren't clear in our mind what the new life looks and feels like.) Can you feel how that life will feel? Can you see the more positive outcomes for others? Can you feel your new relationships with those others? Be totally clear in what you want.

Now can you hold that feeling until it manifests? (That's the hard part when the reality in front of you hasn't changed yet, or caught up with your new life that you are creating.) The emotional body manifests, not the mental body. What you feel becomes an electromagnet and so if you 'feel' the new life then you will attract it to you. But it takes time, so stick with it.

jessamy99
27th November 2011, 00:05
Dear kingmonkey,
It sounds bizarre, but it always works.


I bet it does. It's not bizarre at all, it's wonderful.
Clearly you have found something that works for YOU, which is invaluable.

For reaffirming and sustaining the faith needed to proceed when obstacles arise, I find the authors mentioned above very valuable (meaning Goddard and the Fab Four :-)).

My surname is Goddard!! Laughing...

NeverMind
27th November 2011, 00:46
My surname is Goddard!! Laughing...

You're joking! Hilarious! :)
Well, it's certainly a propitious name, so... use it wisely! :-)

Muzz
27th November 2011, 00:57
Hi kingmonkey

Bill might be able to help with this. Watch from 32:00 on.

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Hope this helps

CivilDawn
27th November 2011, 02:06
I once heard a saying, If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got. It's simple but it has a truthful ring to it, especially bc our desires can often times be overruled by our habits and mental programs when we dont have enough intent behind our will.

I believe you are right about the fact that we the people are choosing/creating our realities day to day. Whether or not this choice is conscious is another story. Every action involves some kind of agreement. Actually, Don Miguel Ruiz's "The Four Agreements" talks very much about this and is a great source of ancient wisdom communicated in the form of modern prose. Inelia also touches on this idea.

Some people in this thread have mentioned focusing on what you want. I feel this is so important because a lot of times we have a clear idea of what we don't want and we don't focus on benificial alternatives. Creatively visualizing what you want/need will build intention. Intention ultimately creates results.

I'm not sure where you're at on your journey but I do wish you well. :thumb:

kingmonkey
27th November 2011, 19:35
Thankyou everybody for your kind words.

I was having an off day/off month or so and i felt the intuition to post. Im grateful for all the replies.

I was taking stock of my life and realising there was heaps of room for improvement. Im tired of the struggle and im sure it does not have to be this way. All ive read about creating our lives suggest that absolutley anything is possible provided we 'vibrate' at that level.

About 14 mths ago i was fortunate enough to recieve some money. With this i quit my job and went on an extended period of travel. Back then my job sucked and many things sucked (all of my own creation i might add). I had an amazing time away, i relished the freedom i had and in many ways it was a departure from my old life. I decided to return and visit friends and family. The return was difficult as i had posted previously. But part of me needed to return to ground myself. I could not go running forever.

I was offered my old job back, and i took it to build up some savings again. But it sucked then and it sucks now. I cant believe i am back in my old life doing the same thing over and over when i know it is not what i want to do.

So hence my post. I was looking for other peoples concrete examples of how they had creatively made new lives using visualization/manifesting and how one goes about it.

So thanks for the replies.

@tony, thanks for the e-mail very interesting stuff. Im gonna write you an email in the next few days.

@Jessamy, thanks for the idea, i would have to draw stick men because thats all my artistic skills would allow

@Nevermind , I have not read the bible since school but i've been meaning to take a look at it recently, funny you should mention it. I have never heard of Neville Goddard despite all my reading. I took a quick look. As you say he is basically saying what newer 'experts' are saying. I find this quite reassuring, because his writings precede the newer stuff. From my limited memory of the new testament are there similar quotes regarding faith and 'manefesting' ?

@ahamkara " The catch is you can't "want" you can't be attached to the outcome, instead you MUST be in the vibrational space of what you want already being present. This is a bit more difficult than it sounds. When I have been able to do this, the manifestion is nearly miraculous. "

Yes this is the part i forget. At the moment im stuck in a negative vibration of "poor me my life sucks, bla bla" I need to shift this somehow to a more positive way of being.

@TWINCANS yes i agree. Thanks for the advice. I think i need to start cultivating and holding these new ways of being. Thanks.

@Muzz - Excellent, i had watched this but completley forgotten about this. I found this clip really inspiring. I totally resonate with bills belief that we in the past were so much more than we currently are expressing. I especially liked imaging ourselves at the age of 90 and asking ourselves questions.

@ Civildawn - "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got. It's simple but it has a truthful ring to it, especially bc our desires can often times be overruled by our habits and mental programs when we dont have enough intent behind our will. " I laughed when i read this, because what i am doing right now is exactly that. Somone else said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results.


So there you go. I have a few ideas. Now its time to apply these principles! Id like to hear and im sure others would of actual example of how you guys have attracted things into your life by changing your beliefs/vibrations.

Many thanks

Bob

CivilDawn
27th November 2011, 23:01
Somone else said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results.

Might of been Eckhart Tolle. Awesome stuff as well.

TWINCANS
27th November 2011, 23:14
Id like to hear and im sure others would of actual example of how you guys have attracted things into your life by changing your beliefs/vibrations.

I believe strongly in any kind of energy bodywork. It doesn't matter which type you feel drawn to, the release of thought forms/ emotional traumas and the realigning and purifying of the auric field will change what you attract. But you wanted concrete examples. I did it through Rebirthing, Hatha Yoga, Network Chiropractic, Crystal Therapy and Teacher Training courses, Reiki Masters attunement, Tai Chi &Chi Kung, going to power spots like Avebury/Kauai/Mt. Shasta/Rollright Ring/Stonehenge/etc and attending large gatherings in Mt Shasta for Wesak events. There were other luminous events but that'll give you an idea. The body's electromagnetic field is a tuning fork for attracting events so go polish that tuning fork.

Tarka the Duck
27th November 2011, 23:18
Somone else said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results.

Might of been Eckhart Tolle. Awesome stuff as well.

I think it was Albert Einstein who said it.

Mark
27th November 2011, 23:36
Hi. Great thread. First, about predestination, this is the way I look at it. There is a difference between fate and destiny. Fate is our free-will choice, the decisions we make every day. Destiny is the inevitable outcome of our life-path trajectory. We have the free-will to make choices and we do, that will lead to different outcomes, but these outcomes occur within an overall context that is relatively restricted when compared to the infinity of potentialities in existence in a quantum creation. When I think of predestiny, predictions, prophecy, the end of the movie, Men In Black (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119654/) comes to mind. Funny, right?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKnpPCQyUec&feature=related

I interpret this scene as an accurate depicition of scale, As Above, So Below. I believe that as you descend through different levels of materiality, you find the same relationship with us being the giants. In addition, the following understanding of time and space and dimensionality complete the picture:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_ZgAvXsuw

Together, the following understanding is implicit: From without, all timelines can be seen within the 'bubble' of the physical materiality of 3D reality. That means, past, present and future are available simultaneously. Somehow, some people are able to see outside of the 'bubble', and bring back the 'reality' that they see at any given moment. This potentiality is just that, one of a relatively infinite array, given the local restrictions upon possibility within the physical conditions of our particular universe.

Once you 'know' a prediction of prophecy, odds are that, depending upon the particulars of the prophecy, the amount of detail, its importance within a life or within a cultural or planetary context, is subject to change based upon the ability of one person or a group of people to change it.

So Free Will, our ability to change our fate, is our reality. But so is Destiny, as the aspect of our relentless course through space and across time, is also our reality. They are not mutually exclusive. At least, that's how I see it. :)

There are some great comments about changing perspective and outcome in the rest of the thread. The only thing I might add is that it is easy to say that you want to change, but if what comes out of your mouth does not correspond to what you believe and feel inside it is all useless. Making the two match is only as difficult as your commitment to embarking upon a course of change. Daily affirmations that make the conscious and subconscious match, vision boards, all that stuff works, as it all uses the same basic rules to communicate between levels of individual consciousness.

Wish you the best. Bless.

NeverMind
28th November 2011, 02:18
I hope you do have a good and thorough look at Goddard's works.
Why they are not better known, I don't know (and I don't mind that they aren't), but they are highly valued among the most serious "searchers" I know.
Also, many of his works (and spoken lectures) are now accessible free of charge. Maybe that equals worthlessness in some people's minds.
Well, it's their loss.

But, like I said, all boils down to the message hammered by the New Testament: "Nothing is impossible for him who believes".

I have a final suggestion, which may or may not work for you.
It is a book. I know a few people who have been greatly helped by it in their quest to find their "destiny".

Steering by starlight (http://www.amazon.com/Steering-Starlight-Science-Finding-Destiny/dp/1605298646/ref=cm_aya_orig_subj)

Whatever path you choose, I wish you the best f luck.

CivilDawn
28th November 2011, 04:33
The only thing I might add is that it is easy to say that you want to change, but if what comes out of your mouth does not correspond to what you believe and feel inside it is all useless. Making the two match is only as difficult as your commitment to embarking upon a course of change.

I agree, its all about congruence. Manifesting our truths and our goals and our determinations.. I've come to realize that with strong intent, we may carry out just that.

Aetheric Traveler
28th November 2011, 06:09
Friend KingMonkey,

Why are you looking for what works for other people? Do you want to become them? Wouldn't you rather become all you can be that only you are capable of being?

The answer is within you.

You do not want anyone else's life but your own highest potential manifested.

What is Fate? Play with the word, mix it around and it spells Feat. What Feats in your life do you want more than anything?

What is destiny? For you it's whatever you make of your life by the Feats you accomplish for yourself and others. Play with the word and you can get silly, like NY Diets. How many people go on someone else's FAD diet to achieve results for themselves just to fail and be miserable because the program is not right for them? Too many. You don't want to make the same mistake. You've proven it already to yourself.

If you are unhappy with your job, create the job you want.

If you are asking if you're in the right place at the right time doing the right thing, then YOU ARE...... because you are asking, ...... instead of being a mindless automaton, drearily repeating the same days over and over without questioning, questing or wresting a greater satisfaction out of existence for your life.

The old wise saying, "As a Man Thinketh, So Is He" is your simple guide to keeping yourself on the track only you can set for yourself. It means simply that whatever you think you are, you become.

However, there are always old thinking habits that crop up to conflict with your new chosen way of thinking, so you must create new habits of thinking to replace the old, and beat back the old when they try to resurface.

Poverty is the manifestation that people get when they lack abundance consciousness. Let a poverty consciousness minded man win the 10 Million Dollar lottery and in no time at all he'll be broke again because he has not changed his consciousness. But, take away a millionaire's millions and within short period of time he'll create another fortune because he has abundance consciousness that causes him to manifest according to his mental habits.

What all this means is that nobody can change your mental habits but you yourself. I am reminded of the silly kids movie Hallowentown where the statement is made, "Magic is really very simple, all you've got to do is want something and then let yourself have it. " A person must learn to recognize their own self-sabotaging behavior that keeps them from having what they believe they want.

When you believe, then you will see. When you see, .... you will notice the manifestation of the NEW, the limitations of the old and the conflict that arises between them. The hardest thing to do is to break out of you old habits and form new ones because you are creating new trails for yourself instead of walking the well worn path with all the other cows following the tail of the cow in front of you.

Ask yourself what you want. Ask yourself what will it take for you to get it. Ask yourself what do you expect will arise to get in the way and prepare for it so you can overcome the obstacles when they present themselves. Pictures of yourself succeeding are very helpful, both drawn out on paper and in your mind. These are goals you set for yourself and reaffirm you desire or allow you to change it as you see fit.

You can read a hundred books with a hundred methods, all of which will do nothing for you because the magic is within you, and you and ONLY YOU can draw it out to manifest that special talent that YOU and ONLY YOU in this world are here to do. Find the magic that resonates within you and follow the silent musical chord within that only you can hear. The real INNER YOU cannot lie to you or steer you wrong. It's waiting for you to play the music that is YOUR SONG.

And the world is waiting to see the incredible talent expressed by you that only you can manifest for them to share in.

"Do or do not, there is no try" Yoda from Star Wars.

My personal catch phrase to myself is, "Yes, I CAN. Yes, I AM."

Good luck,
Aetheric Traveler