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ktlight
28th November 2011, 10:17
"There are many singers or pop stars who were murdered and still we dont know those murderers but we should go in deep to know the reason also. IT MAY BE THAT U DONT AGREE WITH IT but what else everybody has is own perception. BUT WATCH IT WITH BROAD MIND"

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Lord Sidious
28th November 2011, 11:45
Very sad.
Michael never hurt anyone, yet they never left him alone.

truth4me
28th November 2011, 11:46
Music,rock music to me, was one of my "awakening triggers". I used to be a big fan of David Bowie. I was "drawn" to him from the age of 9. Something about him....his voice ,his style just pulled me in. Back then I wasn't "awake" and I got to where I started dressing like him. Even went as far as trying bisexuality.

As I got into my late 20's early 30's I listen to his music because I liked it but in my 40's when I started waking up I did a deep research on him and he was/is part of the Illuminati music people.

He studied the occult and even said that an entity would take over when he was writing his music.

One album of his is called "Hunky Dory" one song Quicksand has these lyrics.

I'm closer to the Golden Dawn
Immersed in Crowley's uniform
Of imagery.............
this was 1972.

What does this have to do with Michael Jackson ? plenty in the sense that the Illuminati has all the bases covered when it comes to the music world.
So maybe just maybe there is some truth to Robert Johnson selling his soul way back in 1927 on a old Mississippi dirt road......

ktlight
28th November 2011, 11:46
They hated his influential power and the fact that he owned the Beatles catalogue.

Star1111
28th November 2011, 14:00
Because Michael knew 'stuff' and tried to tell us in full via his music. Listen to the words (particuarly the later works)
He wouldn't 'play the game' and he was getting too close (as far as they were concerned) in warning us all of what was/is going on.

He was a messenger sent to us from Source and to try to heal the world.........................make it a better place!

RIP Michael. YOU ARE NOT ALONE XXXXXXXXX

WhiteFeather
28th November 2011, 14:14
Michael was/is a true Starseed Indeed!

Mark
28th November 2011, 14:18
Well said, Star1111. Too many people still believe the lies. That he molested boys. That no man could be that good. Just listen to his music. It tells almost all. What is left out is a lot of the possible Monarch stuff from his youth, but even that is alluded to by the deep, abiding emotional pain that he and the rest of his siblings display that cannot be explained by a few whuppins from his father. Perhaps we'll never know the full truth, but the musical legacy he left us is a gift for the ages.

STATIC
28th November 2011, 16:11
Wow I have never heard of any of this stuff.

I was at the Rothbury music festival when Michael died. 3/4th's of the bands out of about 90 did a tribute to him. Was a pretty special event for me.

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Mark
28th November 2011, 16:20
Whenever I look at this video I am reminded of the pain Michael felt and that he expressed when he talked about all of his so-called hollywood friends who abandoned him during his trials and tribulations. He was so good to them and loving in his ways. And he got what all beautiful souls get from the world in return. I suppose, for the sake of their careers, they had to create distance so as not to be destroyed themselves. Still ... a beautiful song, reflective of a fleeting, good time for Michael.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3V-7DEAgdc

learninglight
28th November 2011, 16:48
Hi ktlight

Thanks for posting theses vids...had them book marked to watch already...came to the conculsion a while ago poor Micheal was doomed... he tried to tell us so much with his music

'Earth song' just gets me every time

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much love

Black Panther
28th November 2011, 19:31
Hi ktlight

Thanks for posting theses vids...had them book marked to watch already...came to the conculsion a while ago poor Micheal was doomed... he tried to tell us so much with his music

much love

I have to admit I believed a lot of the media was telling about Michael. Before I came here on the forum I've
seen those videos too about Michael an the influence of the Illuminati in the Music Industry. It's really obvious what really happened. Listening to the Earth Song with the clip right now. It's really a great song, very strong! Thank you Learninglight.

It's really hard to think about people like Michael or John Lennon. Most people really believe they lost it,
but they are the ones who didn't fall for the fame and the money. It's great they are still with us by listening to their songs. Through their songs they can still reach all of us, so their suffering wasn't in vain.

I've chosen the Black Panther as my Avatar. Really like what's it symbolises: Strength, Power, Control of Territory, Freedom from opression and often signals a Time of Rebirth after a period of suffering.

bodhii71
28th November 2011, 20:05
Anyone see the irony that there are Lady Ga Ga adverts with these videos ( Michael Jackson)? :sick:

Mark (Star Mariner)
29th November 2011, 00:20
Hi ktlight

Thanks for posting theses vids...had them book marked to watch already...came to the conculsion a while ago poor Micheal was doomed... he tried to tell us so much with his music

'Earth song' just gets me every time

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much love

Get's me too. There are hugely powerful energies resonating with that song. I remember when it came out I saw the video on TV at a friend's house. A few 'mates' were there, including one troubled soul, a bit of a nutcase, and kleptomaniac, and womanizer – basically as 'asleep', down to earth, and aspiritual as you can get.

…yet this song shut him up; he watched, and he listened, and the tears fell down his face… It was very moving. Such is Earthsong.

jackovesk
29th November 2011, 01:26
"BUT WATCH IT WITH BROAD MIND"

No "BROAD MIND" required ktlight..! Just 'FACT'..!

Watch these 2 Video's if your still not convinced..!

Michael Jackson's message before he was killed! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOWP-Lu5g1g&feature=related

Michael Jackson Symbolism Part 1 of 13


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8VIDBs_TX4

Jenci
29th November 2011, 07:28
When you start to wake up to the Illuminati symbolism in the music industry, you see it everywhere. You don't get to make big money in that business unless you promote their agenda. And those that want to break out of that........well, Michael is not the only one they have killed.

When you watch the young, rising stars with a spirit in their eyes being replaced with something very dark indeed as their fame grows, it's difficult to watch. But we must see what they are doing to wake up to what is really going on. Michael tried to tell us.

Lauryn Hill was a rising star, destined for the big time but she got out. The lyrics of this song are well worth listening to.
Jeanette


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnA1kSY6VlA

Violet
29th November 2011, 09:13
Well said, Star1111. Too many people still believe the lies. That he molested boys. That no man could be that good. Just listen to his music. It tells almost all. What is left out is a lot of the possible Monarch stuff from his youth, but even that is alluded to by the deep, abiding emotional pain that he and the rest of his siblings display that cannot be explained by a few whuppins from his father. Perhaps we'll never know the full truth, but the musical legacy he left us is a gift for the ages.

Michael had a very sad youth. From that perspective and looking at his character it only makes sense that he would invest all his wealth into preventing other children from feeling the same thing.

And he really didn't care about what people thought or didn't think. His focus was just on the children. Must help the children, must save the children, .... Whenever he talked there was a great chance the topic of children would be brought up.

In my opinion, he was right to want to save the children. These children will determine the world tomorrow.
After watching many crime docs one thing became very clear to me: it all went wrong in their youth, sometimes as far as the early years. Abused babies, children that get molested in one way or another, poverty locking so many doors and then going to school and all the other children are having like Spongebob pens and stuff,...

The fantasy world he created for them was genial, it came right out of a child's mind.

Violet
29th November 2011, 09:28
So strange Latoya says the doctor was the fall guy. Wasn't she recently cheering at court when he was found guilty and saying justice was done?

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When you start to wake up to the Illuminati symbolism in the music industry, you see it everywhere. You don't get to make big money in that business unless you promote their agenda. And those that want to break out of that........well, Michael is not the only one they have killed.

When you watch the young, rising stars with a spirit in their eyes being replaced with something very dark indeed as their fame grows, it's difficult to watch. But we must see what they are doing to wake up to what is really going on. Michael tried to tell us.

Lauryn Hill was a rising star, destined for the big time but she got out. The lyrics of this song are well worth listening to.
Jeanette


Isn't Lauryn Hill a different case? I mean the woman has like 7 children or so.

Jenci
29th November 2011, 11:32
Isn't Lauryn Hill a different case? I mean the woman has like 7 children or so.

Hi Violet

It is about connecting the dots and seeing the bigger picture. If the celebrity world was as they portrayed it, Lauryn Hill could have had it all - the money, cars, houses, fame, awards.....and all the kids.

But it doesn't work like that. To have it all, the artist has to, quite literally some say, sell their soul to promote the illuminati agenda. If you listen to the lyrics in that video she is saying No to their agenda, no to their mind control, no to them stealing her soul, no to their slavery.

She's saying the same as Michael was. But she got out and he couldn't.

George Michael said no to being their slave and even stopped performing for them and look what happened to him. We are led to believe that he likes nothing better than to spend his time than hanging around public toilets looking for strange men. Hmm....don't believe it myself. "They" manipulate the public image of these celebrities if they try to break free, just like they did with Michael. Or they kill them and there are plenty who have died.

This whole issue is a huge topic. There are a lot of videos around about the Illuminati, symbolism, blood sacrifices etc..... Once you start connecting the dots, you start to see how it all works.

Like Michael, the young Britney was taken as a child and put into this system. When she tried to break free they put her in "rehab" where they put a lot of them.

Do they go there for rehab or more mind control?

Anyway when she got out, they took all her rights away. Legally she is not entitled to her own life because she is not 'mentally capable' and yet somehow seem seems to be 'mentally capable' to perform in hugely stressful and exhausting world tours.

She even went on camera and said her life was not out of control, the problem was that it was too in control - groundhog day for her every day. The public, instead of seeing a young woman being kept as a slave, just say "look how fat Britney is!!"

I had better stop there, I am in danger of getting up on a soap box. However tragic his death, Michael was just the tip of the iceberg. Each week on X factor, they line more up for the slaughter while the people celebrate how great it all is to be famous.


Jeanette

Lancelot
29th November 2011, 14:46
I was at the Glastonbury music festival when Michael died and it was fantastic to hear his music played in respect of him everywhere that weekend.
The outpouring of love and emotion towards him was overwhelming and a real indicator of the importance his music had on people everywhere.

1derer
29th November 2011, 15:38
97nAvTVeR6o This might be a message that p'd off the powers that be among others...

Also look into Randy Quaid and the so called Hollywood Mafia,

http://theweek.com/article/index/207293/what-happened-to-randy-quaid

I think that if you do not join them, then your career takes a crash. Look at all the successful stars, they all advertise Masonic and illuminati symbols and ideas some would claim.

The satanic horn sign seems to also go with this connection of stars and their allegiances, but I am not sure if it is all done innocently or if there is any substance in this.

You decide........

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Today the Doctor at the heart of his death is being judged, wither he will get off lightly or they will throw the book at him and give him 1 or two years for taking a life.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/29/justice/california-conrad-murray-sentencing/index.html?hpt=us_c1

Lord Sidious
29th November 2011, 19:03
Excellent point there about Randy Quaid.

Cartomancer
29th November 2011, 19:35
I remember laughing at conservative Christians that talked about the satanic music industry when I was a kid. Really if you look into it this is the only conclusion you can come to. Maybe not satanic in the classic definition but the occult overtones are hard to dismiss. This does fit the paradigm of artists always being controlled by the occult powers. Art did not become an object of aesthetic appeal until around the beginning of the twentieth century. Prior to that it was always used and controlled for political reasons. This is one of the concepts the ruling class has always understood. Art appeals to a part of your brain that you are not consciously aware of kind of like the way advertising does. This is why all media is controlled by those preoccupied with manipulating you in ways you do not even understand. More than once in my life I have seen people fighting over what kind of music is better. Ridiculous when you really think about it.

Also interesting is the phenomena of the African American blues musician meeting Lucifer at the crossroads to trade his soul for fame and fortune. Even this legend has a basis in the religion of the Greeks and Romans. Athena/Hecate was the triple headed goddess of the crossroads among other things. This is a direct Luciferian reference. It has to be more than a coincidence that this activity developed with the reference to the crossroads. It makes you wonder who the ringmasters were that developed this tradition. My next youtube movie will be on this subject.

At first, years ago I fed into the bad hype about Michael Jackson. Recently I did look into it more given the other info I learned about the music business. I have gained a whole new respect for Michael Jackson and do believe he was worked over by these people because later in his career he didn't want to play ball anymore. I'm not saying the dude was "normal" or anything but that just made it easier to smear him. There are several objective views of what happened to Michael on the internet.

Black Panther
29th November 2011, 19:38
When you start to wake up to the Illuminati symbolism in the music industry, you see it everywhere. You don't get to make big money in that business unless you promote their agenda. And those that want to break out of that........well, Michael is not the only one they have killed.

When you watch the young, rising stars with a spirit in their eyes being replaced with something very dark indeed as their fame grows, it's difficult to watch. But we must see what they are doing to wake up to what is really going on. Michael tried to tell us.

Lauryn Hill was a rising star, destined for the big time but she got out. The lyrics of this song are well worth listening to.
Jeanette


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnA1kSY6VlA

I've just looked at the YouTube video of Lauryn Hill. It's pretty obvious: "I get out, you can't hold me in these chains". Thank you for pointing that one out. I've watched a lot of videos where people exposes the music industry as I said before, but it's weird we don't talk about it more often. But maybe other people think the same as you do, Jeanette:

I had better stop there, I am in danger of getting up on a soap box
I don't think we are getting on a soap box. It's very real. They are all real people being used as puppets
to brainwash all of us. We were talking about Amy Winehouse too in another thread and people
said: "it's very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here" :confused:. She was brilliant and it's a shame she 'died' so young!

Yesterday ktlight started a thread about John Lennon's song "I found out". Looks very similar to "I get out".
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35686-John-Lennon-I-Found-Out&p=365556&highlight=lennon#post365556

There are a lot more examples of musicians who expose the industry or musicians who love to be a slave.
Imo it's very important to talk about them, because they expose the industry in their songs. By listening to those songs and spreading them on the internet we help them. They don't want to kill them, because
it will wake people up. That's why people like David Icke and Alex Jones are still alive.

In this YouTube video you'll see Eminem, Jay Z, Rihanna, Bob Dylan, 50 Cent, Snoop Dog, Tupac
amongst others. Imo it's very important to know the truth. Did they die or have they been killed.
We have to bring out the truth in the world about them, because some of them can't tell it themselves anymore....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iDq0Tdja4A

Mark
29th November 2011, 19:52
Also interesting is the phenomena of the African American blues musician meeting Lucifer at the crossroads to trade his soul for fame and fortune. Even this legend has a basis in the religion of the Greeks and Romans. Athena/Hecate was the triple headed goddess of the crossroads among other things. This is a direct Luciferian reference. It has to be more than a coincidence that this activity developed with the reference to the crossroads. It makes you wonder who the ringmasters were that developed this tradition. My next youtube movie will be on this subject.

It's basis is not in Greece, it's the other way around. The Greek legends basis is in Africa, such has been the migratory pattern of culture, even considering the extraterrestrial origins. A Luciferian reference as you say is just a lazy way of discussing ancient religious practices and giving them the veneer of evil as dictated by a strictly Christian - thusly limited - perspective. I look forward to seeing what you speak of in this video and critiquing it if you're coming from this same perspective.

Here is a song I did that is directly related to your comment, called Crossroads (http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11203942&q=hi&newref=1), quite appropriately.

Here's another, older video that I created some years ago that is directly related to your erroneous comment about Luciferianism/Satanism:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKq0YPjcWag

Cartomancer
29th November 2011, 20:29
[QUOTE=Cartomancer;366675]Also interesting is the phenomena of the African American blues musician meeting Lucifer at the crossroads to trade his soul for fame and fortune. Even this legend has a basis in the religion of the Greeks and Romans. Athena/Hecate was the triple headed goddess of the crossroads among other things. This is a direct Luciferian reference. It has to be more than a coincidence that this activity developed with the reference to the crossroads. It makes you wonder who the ringmasters were that developed this tradition. My next youtube movie will be on this subject.

"It's basis is not in Greece, it's the other way around. The Greek legends basis is in Africa, such has been the migratory pattern of culture, even considering the extraterrestrial origins. A Luciferian reference as you say is just a lazy way of discussing ancient religious practices and giving them the veneer of evil as dictated by a strictly Christian - thusly limited - perspective. I look forward to seeing what you speak of in this video and critiquing it if you're coming from this same perspective."

Hey, Thanks for the tip. What you say makes a lot of sense and some of the things I read suggested this too. Most sources say it derived from the African religions that you spoke of that kind of evolved into "Voodoo" in the Caribbean and America. When I noticed the similarities to Greek and Roman religion it was kind of mind blowing. Some of the things we take as being myths are really based in reality. In addition I'm sure these practices had manipulative aspects as well. It is just wild to think that this phenomena has been around for so long and still seems to exist in one form or another today. I will send you a message when the video is done so you can check it out.

To me selling your soul for success is evil no matter what your faith is.

Maia Gabrial
29th November 2011, 20:57
I'm sad to say that I believed all the lies about him, too. Now that I'm aware of how Lame Stream and their masters work, I question the validity of almost everything now.
Rest in Peace, Michael. Your message got out in spite of THEM...

Mark
29th November 2011, 21:03
Hey, Thanks for the tip. What you say makes a lot of sense and some of the things I read suggested this too. Most sources say it derived from the African religions that you spoke of that kind of evolved into "Voodoo" in the Caribbean and America. When I noticed the similarities to Greek and Roman religion it was kind of mind blowing. Some of the things we take as being myths are really based in reality. In addition I'm sure these practices had manipulative aspects as well. It is just wild to think that this phenomena has been around for so long and still seems to exist in one form or another today. I will send you a message when the video is done so you can check it out.

To me selling your soul for success is evil no matter what your faith is.

Selling your soul isn't really what happens. You offer libations, which is really offering an honorific, considering that the entities are non-physical and therefore cannot really partake of what you offer in any way that we can understand. Often the honorific is in the form of food, drink, or something else physical.

An understanding of not just African religious traditions but indigenous traditions the world across is really necessary if you wish to speak authoritatively about these subjects. In Tibet, the traditions are similar, in Mesoamerica, the traditions are similar as well. Often these dieties are available to certain genetic lineages, my most recent studies are bringing me swiftly to the conclusion that the same energetic practices that we ascribe to the Illuminati are only reflective of these deeper, ancient relationships with disembodied entities that humans have been engaged in since time immemorial.

I could write much, much more about this but I really don't want to hijack the thread. Perhaps another thread might be appropriate. Suffice it to say, when the blues musicians go to the crossroads, they'er not meeting the devil, they're meeting Papa Legba, which is a form of the Yoruban Elegba, a diety which has its counterparts in Vodun, Santeria, Sangoma and all other African-descended spiritual practices. The ancient traditions state that many of the dieties were once physical beings, that is why they are offered food and alcohol and smokes.

You're not selling anything to them, basically. It's just a way of saying you've entered into a relationship with a non-corporeal entity which requires some form of physical libation in order to cement the relationship. You give, and they give back to you.

It certainly isn't as symbolically horrific as the ritualistic cannibalism that the Eucharist of pretty much all forms of Christianity represents. Eat your god and drink its blood? Really? ;)

Cartomancer
29th November 2011, 21:08
Wow. Now the myth is shattered. I'm sure people put a bad spin on this and made it seem evil. This will be good to show in the video to make the point.

What really interests me in that I am researching geomancy is the need for the ritual/ceremony to be at the crossroads itself. This physical location of things in a gridded pattern is an odd little understood aspect of many things considered to be occult or secret philosophies. Any insights there?

Mark
29th November 2011, 21:15
What really interests me in that I am researching geomancy is the need for the ritual/ceremony to be at the crossroads itself. This physical location of things in a gridded pattern is an odd little understood aspect of many things considered to be occult or secret philosophies. Any insights there?

All of these spiritual practices are very geometrically and mathematically precise. They are fractal in nature, numerological and also incorporate sacred geometry. The basic form of a crossroads is, of course, a cross. A cross means many things, but in its most basic form it is a symbol of manifestation, the dichtomy of potentiality, positive and negative spaces, externalization of what is internal. The intersection itself is the point of dimensional intensification and the location where your greatest chance of breaking through the barrier exists. Again, there is much more to the symbology ... have fun with your research.

Jenci
29th November 2011, 22:26
I had better stop there, I am in danger of getting up on a soap box
Hi BlackPanther, I downloaded that Lauryn Hill song today and listened to it when I was out on repeat and my heart wept for all of them. They are up there in the big, bright lights as stars......but they are just victims.

Michael Jackson said Tommy Mottola was a devil


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z8632lVgVs

....and Tommy Mottola was married to Mariah Carey and this is what she had to say about him

"I am thankful to [Mottola] in a lot of ways. I try not to vilify him. I have to forgive him for being so restrictive. I understand him not wanting me to go out and hang out all night, but going to a spa with friends every now and then, or doing things on my own would have made a world of difference. And I'd probably still be with him if I had. Maybe it's for my own good that I wasn't 'allowed' to do those things, but that's not how it felt."
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1567613/mariah-carey-tommy-mottola-was-restrictive.jhtml

How does a woman supposedly at the top of her profession end up saying that maybe it was for her own good that she was not allowed out to the spa with her friends?

This is a picture of Monarch butterfly. Monarch was the name of a mind control programme.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Monarch_In_May.jpg/250px-Monarch_In_May.jpg
Mariah made an album called Butterflies. She has a large tattoo of one on her back. She's been in and out of rehab for "breakdowns". And she is not allowed out with her friends when married to the man Michael called the devil. Here's her greatest hits album. Does the butterfly look familiar?

http://991.com/newGallery/Mariah-Carey-Greatest-Hits-201659.jpg

Incidently there is supposedly a porcelain face mind control programme where the victim has a hot mask put on their face until in the end they only see the mask when looking in the mirror. I remember Michael saying that he was unable to look at himself in the mirror in an interview and with regards to his face, we never understood what he did.......but there was plenty of ridcule. Who knows what he endured.







We were talking about Amy Winehouse too in another thread and people
said: "it's very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here" :confused:. She was brilliant and it's a shame she 'died' so young!
really..I didn't see that.

The whole celebrity thing is a big part of the conspiracy. It's funny, it was only when I saw all the illuminati and mind control symbolism with celebrities that I started to look wider issues. Seeing through it was a big part in waking me up to it all.




Yesterday ktlight started a thread about John Lennon's song "I found out". Looks very similar to "I get out".
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35686-John-Lennon-I-Found-Out&p=365556&highlight=lennon#post365556
Interesting lyrics. He was a very awake and aware man


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqau8U1j5s

About his death, was it part of the conspiracy and how big was it? Dare I mention the subject of Paul McCartney and whether he died and was replaced. I know it brings up a lot of disinfo claims ....but then again that can suggest it's worth looking at.

What I know for fact is that here in the UK Heather Mills was absolutely slated in our media when she was divorcing him. I never understood why and people would tell me that they absolutely really hated her. I never understood that either. I actually felt sorry for her.

This was an interesting interview with Heather where she says that she was lied to in a way that was not infidelity but was so big it pushed her towards suicide and that "people don't want to know the truth because they could never, ever handle it, they would be too devastated". What was she talking about?

...But by this time she was a crazy goldigger, ridiculed by everyone so no one (almost) was listening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQtP4AjVg8





Imo it's very important to talk about them, because they expose the industry in their songs.
I agree and while some people may not be interested in the industry angle on the conspiracy, it may be the one thing which wakes another up - when they see through the facade of their star or idol.

And yes many of these artists are telling us what is going on in their music.
Jeanette

TargeT
29th November 2011, 23:04
Jenci, have you seen www.theindustryexposed.com ?

quite facinating it delves into more current pop-stars & how almost every concert is really a massive ritualistic cerimony...

that web site &

http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/

have changed "entertainment" a lot for me; infact I find spotting the symbols & trying to figure out the hidden messages the whole reason for watching movies now... hahaha

Lord Sidious
29th November 2011, 23:13
Jenci, have you seen www.theindustryexposed.com ?

quite facinating it delves into more current pop-stars & how almost every concert is really a massive ritualistic cerimony...

that web site &

www.hollywoodinsiders.com

have changed "entertainment" a lot for me; infact I find spotting the symbols & trying to figure out the hidden messages the whole reason for watching movies now... hahaha

The last link appears to be no good.
Looks like the domain name may have expired.

TargeT
29th November 2011, 23:17
the problem with working from memory is... well mine's not the best for details.. haha

http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/ ;)

Lord Sidious
29th November 2011, 23:23
the problem with working from memory is... well mine's not the best for details.. haha

http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/ ;)

Don't tell me, you have a memory like a steel trap, but the springs are cactus? :p

Cartomancer
30th November 2011, 00:10
This is a phenomena that has been in pop music for a long time. I got a clue when I started to realize that one of my favorite bands had nothing but gnostic and masonic imagery in all their album covers and songs. Not to mention their name: The Grateful Dead

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CivilDawn
30th November 2011, 00:38
Another good one crosses over:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG2zyeVRcbs

VS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSG6z_13-Q&ob=av2e


All kinds of dark imagery in the second one. Couldn't have just let her sing about positivity and self growth, could they?

PS. Thank you to everyone who has posted valuable information about this painfully real tragedy with Michael.

ghostrider
30th November 2011, 01:14
he always spoke with words like awareness, awakening... to raise awareness. he was ahead of time it seems.

Jenci
30th November 2011, 06:50
Jenci, have you seen www.theindustryexposed.com ?

quite facinating it delves into more current pop-stars & how almost every concert is really a massive ritualistic cerimony...

that web site &

http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/

have changed "entertainment" a lot for me; infact I find spotting the symbols & trying to figure out the hidden messages the whole reason for watching movies now... hahaha

Thanks for the links. I hadn't seen those sites and I agree, it changes the "entertainment" when you start to watch for all the hidden symbols and messages.......and not so hidden
Jeanette

Jenci
30th November 2011, 07:15
Another good one crosses over:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG2zyeVRcbs

VS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSG6z_13-Q&ob=av2e


All kinds of dark imagery in the second one. Couldn't have just let her sing about positivity and self growth, could they?

PS. Thank you to everyone who has posted valuable information about this painfully real tragedy with Michael.

The Miley videos are excellent example of what "they" are doing - it's this type of change that I was talking about.

Miley hooked in a whole generation of young girls with her pink, fluffy Hannah Montana series and merchandise and once they are all following her, she takes them to the dark side. No, they couldn't let her sing about positivity and self growth - it seems that they are saying that growth from child to adult is this type of change. I noticed too that in the 'innocent' video of Miley on the Climb she is standing in front of a huge pyramid. A sign of things to come.

They are getting more blatent. This is the lastest Disney star, China Ann McClain. Born in 98, she only just has become a teenager. She has her own TV series and a few weeks ago this video was playing every ad break on the Disney Channel. It's got 5 million views on youtube. It's very much like Michael's Thriller. The music is very hypnotic and all the dance moves with hip thrusting and the facial expressions with the way she uses her mouth are not what you would expect from such a young girl.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmSpn3EnsE0&ob


Jeanette

Black Panther
30th November 2011, 17:55
This is a picture of Monarch butterfly. Monarch was the name of a mind control programme.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Monarch_In_May.jpg/250px-Monarch_In_May.jpg
Mariah made an album called Butterflies. She has a large tattoo of one on her back. She's been in and out of rehab for "breakdowns". And she is not allowed out with her friends when married to the man Michael called the devil. Here's her greatest hits album. Does the butterfly look familiar?

http://991.com/newGallery/Mariah-Carey-Greatest-Hits-201659.jpg

Incidently there is supposedly a porcelain face mind control programme where the victim has a hot mask put on their face until in the end they only see the mask when looking in the mirror. I remember Michael saying that he was unable to look at himself in the mirror in an interview and with regards to his face, we never understood what he did.......but there was plenty of ridcule. Who knows what he endured.

That's a good one. If they are talking about 'breakdowns' or 'rehab' maybe they are actually
updating the mind control program. So they come back 'fresh' and 'energised'.
Maybe that's why Amy sang: I don't go to 'rehab'!

There are two threads about Amy:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26034-Amy-Winehouse-death-Neighbour-in-Camden-heard---screaming-and-howling--
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32601-Amy-Winehouse-Brilliant-Chanteuse....&p=332703&highlight=winehouse#post332703


Interesting lyrics. He was a very awake and aware man


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMqau8U1j5s

I started a thread about John: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33793-John-Lennon


About his death, was it part of the conspiracy and how big was it? Dare I mention the subject of Paul McCartney and whether he died and was replaced. I know it brings up a lot of disinfo claims ....but then again that can suggest it's worth looking at.

There is a thread about Paul McCartney:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15069-Is-Paul-McCartney-a-CLONE

I haven't got time to study Paul McCartney, but there are some wild stories out there.
I know for sure John and Paul weren't friends in the end anymore. Haven't studied Heather Mills
too. By believing the lamestream media she is just a golddigger, but I guess the truth will be totally
different again.

TargeT
30th November 2011, 19:39
Jenci, have you seen www.theindustryexposed.com ?

quite facinating it delves into more current pop-stars & how almost every concert is really a massive ritualistic cerimony...

that web site &

http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/

have changed "entertainment" a lot for me; infact I find spotting the symbols & trying to figure out the hidden messages the whole reason for watching movies now... hahaha

Thanks for the links. I hadn't seen those sites and I agree, it changes the "entertainment" when you start to watch for all the hidden symbols and messages.......and not so hidden
Jeanette

looks like he just posted some new stuff, I cant wait to watch it: I suggest watching full disclosure first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNyuEKqUJ88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNyuEKqUJ88

You'll never watch movies the same way again...

Violet
1st December 2011, 15:56
So but what do you guys think about Latoya?

First she said she was convinced the doctor was set up and recently she was filmed cheering at court when that same doctor was found guilty. She was even saying justice was done?

Jenci
2nd December 2011, 16:59
So but what do you guys think about Latoya?

First she said she was convinced the doctor was set up and recently she was filmed cheering at court when that same doctor was found guilty. She was even saying justice was done?


Hi Violet,

We can only guess but with "their" track record I would suspect they got to her. Considering the history of the whole family I would also suspect that mind control plays a big part with all of them.
Jeanette

Black Panther
14th December 2011, 18:39
There are some nice Symbolic Pics to see on this website:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/pics-of-the-month/symbolic-pics-of-the-month-1211/

11911

Talking about hiding in plain view!



This is a picture of Monarch butterfly. Monarch was the name of a mind control programme.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Monarch_In_May.jpg/250px-Monarch_In_May.jpg

Also some pictures with the Monarch butterfly.

Jenci
14th December 2011, 18:50
Hi Black Panther,

Vigilant citizen do some very thorough work on analysing.

Illuminati symbolism is everywhere in the media, paritcularly in the music and modelling world. Once you start to see the images, far from seeing creativity you begin to notice that it is more like copy and paste.
Jeanette

jackovesk
17th December 2011, 04:19
Saw this on Australian News this morning, thought it may be of interest to some of you..?

FULL Paris Jackson Interview on the Ellen Show (Complete)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZSG24oMhaI&feature=related

Ellisa
17th December 2011, 05:55
Reading this topic has made me think that perhaps William Booth (the founder of the Salvation Army) , was absolutely correct when he remarked that the devil had all the best songs. Since he said it more than 100 years ago I guess once again we have to agree that there is nothing new under the sun!

Sirius White
17th December 2011, 08:53
Intuition is powerful.

I've always known this.

I always knew they killed Tupac as well.

I knew because I remember that he was free from Sony, and beat them in some case. I knew because he had massive assets and people loved him. I knew because I also knew that Michael was aware of the people (all I want to tell you is they don't really care about us!).

I also knew he was a reincarnation of someone "special." He had a magnetism, AND an electricity that is unparalleled. I also knew he was an innocent and beautiful soul taken advantage of Sexually by many people throughout his life, which is common in Elite and high up circles.

I also knew he was "chosen" by the Illuminati because of his talents, and his energy. IMO the ritual abuse as a kid, and being Jehova's witness was a part of his dissaciation from sexual attraction to others. He was also "asexual" both in his voice, and even looks. This kind of thing gave him the power of both magnetism and electricism, made him incredibly powerful.

I mean so powerful everywhere in the world no matter where he went parades and people followed him and loved him. I had a huge affinity to him as a child. He had an energy that could not be matched or duplicated.

If they couldn't kill him, then of course they would ruin his career and credibility. Which they did. After that, he wanted to go on Tour (his last one) and TELL people what was going on.

In the movie "This is it" he is filmed talking to a group of people about 2012, and how there isn't much time to save the environment. He wanted that to be the message. He was also going to talk more about the "controllers."

He was also obsessed with Egypt, and bought countless artifacts concerning Egypt.

May you rest in peace Michael. You were always loved.

-Your Sirian Brother.

transiten
17th December 2011, 09:11
Sirius! Just read your post in the Duncan vs Hoagland thread and also happened to watch the Michael Jackson thread before that, but i swear, i'm not following you...talking about Egypt they're talking about Cleopatra on a Swedish humour radio show at the moment...

Mark
18th December 2011, 00:43
I remember reading about something about Michael and Bob Hope a long time ... ah. here it is. Michael Jackson as Monarch Slave (http://www.henrymakow.com/was_michael_jackson_another_il.html).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc&ob=av3e
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc&ob=av3e

Logan
20th December 2011, 14:21
Not certain about any plot to kill Michael, but I am a lifelong fan of Michael. I am certain that the lawsuits against him for touching those kids were complete and utter bull****. That stuff hurt me to see, and the jokes people make about Michael hurt a lot more. Michael went through so much in his life whether it was from his own father or complete strangers. I have nothing but the greatest respect for Michael Jackson and I still listen to his music a few times a week.

I know Michael had a great knowledge of the way the world worked and he did try to tell us things in his music. I've been listening to a lot of "They Don't Care About Us" recently.

I got into a debate with a good friend of mine though. He says "I don't mean to be controversial, but I think Rhythm Nation 1814 is a better top-to-bottom pop album than Thriller". That blew my mind!! No way man.. better than Thriller? I love me some Rhythm Nation too but no way. Nothing tops Thriller.

Sirius White
21st December 2011, 03:04
Even the mainstream media "suspected foul play."

Probably wasn't hard because of his addiction to prescription medication. Word is he was so skinny because he was hardly eating, thinking people were trying to poison him. Who knows.

RIP

andrewgreen
21st December 2011, 04:02
Tu Pac has a very similar story. His family were black panthers and are still serving time for it. He was the leader of the Youth Panthers and was helping stop gang violence. They wanted to stop his message and movement and they succeeded.