The Dangers of Thinking too much

[Eagle]

As we move into new areas of experience and as we try and understand all that is going on around us a dangerous way of thinking occurs. So many sources, so many answers, and so many conclusions, our mind seeks answers but it is not in the way that it needs to happen. Take a second out of your busy day and shut your mind down for a minute. Start to think with your heart, why you may ask? Understand for a minute if you will the impact of thinking with the emotional rather than the analytical. Most people will tell you that thinking with your emotions is wrong or evil and what has gotten us into this mess; I beg to differ. If you put yourself in someone else’s shoes and feel what they feel and live through their experience how much more understanding will you get.
So much of who we are is taken away when we remove ourselves from a situation, where emotion is not involved we become distant, unfeeling, an observer with no emotional tie to what is happening at hand. If this is done long enough you no longer care about the world around you because it is someone else’s problem. Religion in a way teaches people how to feel again but at the same time limits that feeling to only “Good” things and to reject “Evil” ideas. We are a balance of light and dark we are a construct of energies, Male and Female, when we become out of balance we lose power in ourselves to act as conduits of Source/God.
Conspiracies and Alien visitations aside, changes will come when you bring back your heart into the equation and start to use it not in the sense of having not set guidelines but in the sense of feeling what the other person is feeling and understanding how to communicate without words or written language. The heart is not an “evil” thing, a true follower of the heart seeks to improve him or herself and then shares that experience with others.
May you find your Heart again and then share it with the rest of us.

[WhiteFeather]

That was awesome Dig! Well Said Enlightened One.

[Mad Hatter]

So might you be saying "Love is key to knowledge" ? :p

and to quote Pascal... "If mans dignity lies in thought, then let us all begin to think well"

[seko]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

[lunaflare]

I "love" to read anything related to the heart.
I believe this electromagnetic charge-centre is our true mind; our most powerful star-gate where all chakras converge....
To understand and utilize the force of Love has to be the greatest challenge for us humans.
I do not believe this is a passive walk over me force, but one that is organically alive and infinitely creative.
Religions mostly teach us to un-love ourselves and our capacities- even the Buddhist doctrine of detachment
The oft-quoted phrase that the fox says to the Little Prince has to be my all time faves:

...it is only throught the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye.

[VaughnB]

Thinking, if you carry it to the extreme...is truly insanity "the endless mind chatter".

An old saying is, "Think before you speak", I'd change that to "Feel before you speak."

I must admit, often I get caught up in the rhetoric, information overload, here I am on this forum, when I could be gardening, playing with my dog or just in bliss in my garden watching the Koi fish meander amongst the lily pads.


May we all remember that stillness speaks and it's these moments that are most precious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfl__K0jLOk

[Zillah]

to the OP: AMEN
xo

[Ba-ba-Ra]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

I absolutely agree ~ heart and mind working together. But often that darn old tongue gets in the way.

I always have to remind myself: talk less, listen more and then don't judge or analyze what you just heard, because the Western mind has been elevated over the heart. Let the heart show the way, then the mind can put it into practice.

[spiritguide]

Living through the heart has no bearing on emotions but it is all virtue. Love is not an emotion it is a virtue that must be exercised.

:peace:

[Eagle]

Living through the heart has no bearing on emotions but it is all virtue. Love is not an emotion it is a virtue that must be exercised.

:peace:

Thats what I was trying to convey!

[Jenci]

Yes, to feel with our heart and to feel the whole spectrum of emotions is the greatest gift we have as human beings.

The mind ? endless chatter, compulsive thinking, this is what minds do.

But to shut the mind down, to stop it thinking.........what does this?

...only the mind does this.

This is seen from a place of deeper Awareness. The false is seen from the Real.

This Awareness which observes the mind and observes the mind trying to quieten the mind, is this busy thinking? .....or is it just allowing mind to be exactly as it is, unaffected by all?

Only the questions are needed. Answers are for the mind.

In fact when we ask these questions, very often we find that the mind goes quiet because it can't find the answers :)

Namaste
Jeanette

[Black Panther]

In fact when we ask these questions, very often we find that the mind goes quiet because it can't find the answers :)

Namaste
Jeanette

I'll have to think about that one :p

I agree thinking too much is dangerous and it's an addiction too. The brains have a frequency
and they'll stay in the same frequency by keep on thinking. Thinking about the real world behind
the world most of the people see and trying to find solutions. But as Einstein said we can't find
solutions on the level of thinking. That's why I started the thread about Eckhart Tolle: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32889-Why-Eckhart-Tolle-isn-t-a-member-of-Avalon.
So instead of being on the forum too long, it's better to meditate or doing Yoga. Like VaughnB says:



I must admit, often I get caught up in the rhetoric, information overload, here I am on this forum, when I could be gardening, playing with my dog or just in bliss in my garden watching the Koi fish meander amongst the lily pads.[/FONT]

May we all remember that stillness speaks and it's these moments that are most precious.


But it's difficult to overcome an addiction :)

[Jenci]

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So instead of being on the forum too long, it's better to meditate or doing Yoga. Like VaughnB says:



I must admit, often I get caught up in the rhetoric, information overload, here I am on this forum, when I could be gardening, playing with my dog or just in bliss in my garden watching the Koi fish meander amongst the lily pads.[/FONT]

May we all remember that stillness speaks and it's these moments that are most precious.


But it's difficult to overcome an addiction :)


Addictions can be part of the process of awakening. I liken it to consciousness coming back for itself right back through everything which is still asleep, even lurking away hidden in the dark corners. So addictions/compulsiveness may get worse during awakening.

These are not to be pushed away. These are Grace too.

We can bring our Awareness into our addictions. As Tolle would say, we watch the thinker but we don't judge what the thinker is doing. Only the thinker judges.

About 18 months are my initial wakening I put down all the spiritual books and suddenly became obsessed with celebrity....and I thought I had left all that behind!! This was not a pleasant experience but I had learned by this time to allow everything just to be without any pushing away.

I spent ages on the Sun and Daily mail newspapers websites checking out all the gossip. I downloaded apps on my phone and was getting twitter updates all day long and even getting to sleep late because I couldn't resist the last checking of twitter.

And then it just stopped suddenly.
It had completely exhausted itself .......and I had moved to a greater sense of Awareness and many material things I had been attached to had just fallen away.

If I had pushed away the compulsion, I would have stopped the process and missed the Grace I was being given.

Awareness is a state of allowing everything to be exactly as it is.
Eventually even this happens all by itself and then stillness and silence are present even in the midst of noise and turmoil. All the time I was going through this obsession, I was still at peace in the stillness. The mind doesn't get how this can be but this is beyond mind.

This is a helpful video - How does Awareness affect compulsive thoughts and behaviours


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coi5CTk1lVA

namaste
Jeanette

[sandy]

Absouletly Fabulous Dig : - ) I couldn't agree more !! Love from my HEART TO YOURS

[greybeard]

Identification with thoughts-- my thought-- gives credence to the fallacy that there is an individual person.
Oneness is one without a second--- no person is left when Truth dawns.
Awareness remains and was always present.
Awareness knows there is no this or that only This.
There is no seperation anywhere.
Everything is unified.

Chris

[Eagle]

Identification with thoughts-- my thought-- gives credence to the fallacy that there is an individual person.
Oneness is one without a second--- no person is left when Truth dawns.
Awareness remains and was always present.
Awareness knows there is no this or that only This.
There is no seperation anywhere.
Everything is unified.

Chris
Chris
I am with you up until the point of “everything is unified”. Here is the problem; it has been ingrained into most of us that we are separate from everything, from God, from Spirit, from each other, and from awareness. Telling the 99% that they have been duped (for the lack of a better term) all of their lives won’t exactly bring joy once the realization has set in. imagine if you will for a moment the 99% releasing their anger on the 1% holding the keys to the most destructive force known to man. Won’t be pretty, that’s why it will be imperative that the info we have gets circulated soon and to as many as possible to avoid such a conflict.

[Sidney]

Great thread Dig! It does seem lots of people are experiencing prolonged states of "detachment". It is easier to detach sometimes than to participate. It is a very valid point that you call attention to. Remember the old saying?

"Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits".

You just might miss out on something important.

[VaughnB]

Addictions can be part of the process of awakening.
Jenci, you're right ...it's when we're at the precipice we evolve. This is our moment.

You go onto say about E. Tolle;
Awareness is a state of allowing everything to be exactly as it is. Eventually even this happens all by itself and then stillness and silence are present even in the midst of noise and turmoil.I do believe this to be true, how else could we experience heaven while in hell?

The First Key to enlightenment is to know that you are not, nor have you ever been, a body with a soul. You are a soul with a body. To understand that you are a soul is easy.


To know it takes time.


WE THINK, SOMETIMES, that the deepest secrets of life can only be uncovered in some secret monastery--can only be found as the end of a long and difficult journey to a land somewhere near the roof of the world. We don't even dare hope that we will be one of the lucky ones, who finds a true master to teach us, a true path to follow. It seems too impossible.

We think sometimes that the greatest adventure, the most meaningful quest can only be found by someone not bound by an ordinary life. That we must be free of family and job with our backpack ready, and a ticket to some exotic destination promising possibilities.

The truth is that seekers come in all shapes and sizes. Living all kinds of lives. The truth is that there is a power in each of us, a power that goes largely untapped and unrecognized, hidden even from our own selves.

The truth is that you don't have to go anywhere. There are no plane tickets to buy, no bags to pack. But you do have to be ready to travel.

The quest exists. The journey is real. The traveler is you.

(...in the future perhaps I can share all seven keys of enlightenment)

[Jenci]

The First Key to enlightenment is to know that you are not, nor have you ever been, a body with a soul. You are a soul with a body. To understand that you are a soul is easy.


To know it takes time.


WE THINK, SOMETIMES, that the deepest secrets of life can only be uncovered in some secret monastery--can only be found as the end of a long and difficult journey to a land somewhere near the roof of the world. We don't even dare hope that we will be one of the lucky ones, who finds a true master to teach us, a true path to follow. It seems too impossible.

We think sometimes that the greatest adventure, the most meaningful quest can only be found by someone not bound by an ordinary life. That we must be free of family and job with our backpack ready, and a ticket to some exotic destination promising possibilities.

The truth is that seekers come in all shapes and sizes. Living all kinds of lives. The truth is that there is a power in each of us, a power that goes largely untapped and unrecognized, hidden even from our own selves.

The truth is that you don't have to go anywhere. There are no plane tickets to buy, no bags to pack. But you do have to be ready to travel.

The quest exists. The journey is real. The traveler is you.

(...in the future perhaps I can share all seven keys of enlightenment)


Beautifully put, Vaughn.

Imagine that, we are all the Divine. Perfect as we are......but it does take time to know this.

Conditioning keeps this from us. Much of the constant thinking we do is self-critical. But then we are constantly being told we are not good enough or must do better, so it is not suprising that so many of us are so hard on ourselves.

Please do share the seven keys. There's a lot of interest in this.
namaste
Jeanette

[greybeard]

Identification with thoughts-- my thought-- gives credence to the fallacy that there is an individual person.
Oneness is one without a second--- no person is left when Truth dawns.
Awareness remains and was always present.
Awareness knows there is no this or that only This.
There is no seperation anywhere.
Everything is unified.

Chris
Chris
I am with you up until the point of “everything is unified”. Here is the problem; it has been ingrained into most of us that we are separate from everything, from God, from Spirit, from each other, and from awareness. Telling the 99% that they have been duped (for the lack of a better term) all of their lives won’t exactly bring joy once the realization has set in. imagine if you will for a moment the 99% releasing their anger on the 1% holding the keys to the most destructive force known to man. Won’t be pretty, that’s why it will be imperative that the info we have gets circulated soon and to as many as possible to avoid such a conflict.

Hi Dig
Everything is unified does not mean everything is the same.
We are all of the same energy but its like the light bulb some are 40 watt or even dimmer, some are 100 watt or even shining brighter but in essence the energy is the same, only the degree of energy is different.
Perhaps connected is a better word than unified.
Everything affects the energy/frequency/vibration of everything else.
So if the energy tide is rising it lifts all.
Thoughts are of a frequency that the seeming individual tunes into.
As personal frequency rises, thoughts and therefore actions are of a higher quality.
One own spiritual work raises the frequency of all--- that raises unified/collective consciousness.
A raised conscious is less self centered and therefore the possibility of action that harms the earth or other humans is diminished.
People have thought since time began that they could change the world for the better, that has not happened as far as peaceful co existence goes.
You cant fix any problem at the level it was created--- mind/thoughts cant solve the problems created by mind/thoughts.
Only a raising of consciousness will bring about a good result for all.

Regards Chris

[The One]

Let’s also remember that sometimes time feels like it’s accelerating and thinking to much in continued acceleration is not good.

More and more frequently people are suggesting that time is speeding up. We hear people saying things like “I never seem to have enough time to get everything done anymore” or “where has the time gone to”. The years are certainly flying by faster than ever and there is a scientific reason why time is speeding up.
There are also a number of reasons why we are changing so rapidly and it is all related to time speeding up. Human beings are becoming more consciously aware and people are being drawn towards spirituality and personal development in greater numbers than ever before. Why is this happening.

To live with continued acceleration and all it brings will take more than simply learning to manage better. It will involve a complete revision of our thinking about who we are, what we really want, and what life is all about. Hardly the most startling statement. As most of us are only too aware, change comes more and more rapidly. Technological breakthroughs spread through society in years rather than centuries. Calculations that would have taken decades are now made in minutes. Communication that used to take months happens in seconds. Development in every area is happening more and more rapidly

Love yall :grouphug:

[Eagle]

Chris, Jeanette, Vaughn and The One
Ahhh, there is that evil word “technology” look how far advanced we have become but look how far backwards we have gone. If you were to find and ask a Mayan, Atlantis, or Lumerian person how far advanced they were compared to us now they may laugh in your face. Thousands of years ago they had almost the same technologies just in natural from; crystals, rocks, awareness, nature. If you believe in such things then you understand that we have gone backwards in our ability to communicate with nature, to use natural materials in a non-combustible manner, to be of such a frequency as to travel to other dimensions. When we take out greed, lust, anger, and fear we are left with selflessness, Love, peace, and understanding and like you mentioned Chris with that level of thinking in mind and heart we would definitely raise frequency. It is in Forums like this one in which we can learn the keys to success, where we help each other raise awareness, and where we gain understanding, not from diversified truths but from universal principles that when combined create the understanding of who, what and where we are going.

[ulli]

The Dangers of .................Too Much.

I like to leave that space blank....to fill in whatever.
I admit I often think too much but I also know an awful lot of people who think too little.

So the trick is to identify when the word "too" becomes operational.
Fine line there, I say.

Just thinking out loud here...

[music]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

Or we could view it otherwise: the mind is where we think in terms of duality, the heart is where we think from the perspective of unity, or oneness.

[Eagle]

I like it, fill in the blank
The Dangers of .................Too Much.
Thanks Ulli

[ulli]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

Or we could view it otherwise: the mind is where we think in terms of duality, the heart is where we think from the perspective of unity, or oneness.

....even though the heart has four chambers.....(?)

[music]

The heart truly is the meeting place in the body between that which is "above", and that which is "below". I was shown a while ago that that the root, sacral, and solar plexus equate to the 3D, the throat is the gateway to the higher dimensions of pineal/crown/transpersonals, but the place where all meets is the heart - the abode of God, and of ourselves (for we are God, would we but know it). Rosa Mundi - Rose of the World - this earth is a gift from our Heart-Love. Light/Dark, male/female, +/-, co-exist in the heart. The heart is beyond time and space, and why should we be surprised to find that the destination we have sought so fervently has resided within us all along? The only way to combat the many ills of this world is through the heart. It is, quite literally, the way.

[music]

I was discussing Heart matters with a friend, and he had this to say which some may find interesting:

"There is only one way to change the conditions of oneself within to achieve Heartspace, it is easy to say "love" is the answer but how does one achieve this true love of the heart to make global omnipresent change, Well everyone's root chakra has changed slightly, This was by true Divine Intervention 18 days ago and is confirmed, it is no longer fully red, The new codes that were given are now coming out of the core of the Son(sun) which will give a coral pink to everyone's root chakra. (Consider it a gift for all humanity, all humans deserve it) the earth now has it's true soul heartbeat and compass back and will very gently start to fix it's orbit. This soul embodiment of the earth is generating a coral pink ray that you can connect to by thinking of pink mist rising out of the earth, up your legs to your heart. do not "think" from the head, just breath and let this happen. Then send this coral pink ray from your heart to the other chakras and organs of your body. Everything from the Heart as your new center of thought, presence and consciousness, not the third eye which is false light illumination, Heart meet head, head meet Heart...When you and the planet that you are standing on are in heartspace sync together, you as HUman BEings are unstoppable in your true power and potential of true love force. Reptiles, Vampires and Tin Gods cannot operate in the lower earth grounding vibration 432Hz and higher oscillations of Heartspace that this tuning provides, another cosmic reason why lowering concert pitch to A=432Hz is essential at this time on earth. Spread this post far and wide through all your networks. The Gift is Given, Pick it Up!" -Brian T' Collins

Her is Brian's website omega432 (http://www.omega432.com/) devoted to the return to A = 432 Hz

[ulli]

The heart truly is the meeting place in the body between that which is "above", and that which is "below". I was shown a while ago that that the root, sacral, and solar plexus equate to the 3D, the throat is the gateway to the higher dimensions of pineal/crown/transpersonals, but the place where all meets is the heart - the abode of God, and of ourselves (for we are God, would we but know it). Rosa Mundi - Rose of the World - this earth is a gift from our Heart-Love. Light/Dark, male/female, +/-, co-exist in the heart. The heart is beyond time and space, and why should we be surprised to find that the destination we have sought so fervently has resided within us all along? The only way to combat the many ills of this world is through the heart. It is, quite literally, the way.

I studied quite a bit about it, too...
especially the heart math website and also the Wingmakers 'Energetic Heart" document.

Here is a statement which states in effect what you said.

What had me return to cynicism (though I hope not to stay there)
is seeing how on all the heart forums instead of achieving unity the members told each other off on how heartless they still were.

I learnt more about the dynamics of projection there than found evidence of the unified heart theory...although in my "heart" believe in it.

Here is a paragraph from the Energetic Heart document...I'm sure it is in line with what you were "thinking" of.



Your energetic heart is multi-leveled and holographic, meaning that it encompasses the dimensions of life that range from the mundane, dense, three-dimensional environment to the mystical and supernal dimensions of First Source. At its core energetic frequency it is coupled to the grid of love that interpenetrates all dimensions and all life. At the point of this coupling, the heart beats within the soul, similar to how its rhythms pulse through the body electromagnetically9.
The heart of the human soul is in accord with the heart of First Source. Remember, we are created in the image of our Maker. Within this Heart of hearts is the transmission upon which we all live and have our being. It is from here that we have been diverted—our attentions split into a thousand directions, forgetting—no, underestimating our heart’s intelligence and the ease in which we can apply its special powers.

[music]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

Or we could view it otherwise: the mind is where we think in terms of duality, the heart is where we think from the perspective of unity, or oneness.

....even though the heart has four chambers.....(?)

expressed feminine, unexpressed feminine, expressed male, unexpressed male

[music]

The heart truly is the meeting place in the body between that which is "above", and that which is "below". I was shown a while ago that that the root, sacral, and solar plexus equate to the 3D, the throat is the gateway to the higher dimensions of pineal/crown/transpersonals, but the place where all meets is the heart - the abode of God, and of ourselves (for we are God, would we but know it). Rosa Mundi - Rose of the World - this earth is a gift from our Heart-Love. Light/Dark, male/female, +/-, co-exist in the heart. The heart is beyond time and space, and why should we be surprised to find that the destination we have sought so fervently has resided within us all along? The only way to combat the many ills of this world is through the heart. It is, quite literally, the way.

I studied quite a bit about it, too...
especially the heart math website and also the Wingmakers 'Energetic Heart" document.

Here is a statement which states in effect what you said.

What had me return to cynicism (though I hope not to stay there)
is seeing how on all the heart forums instead of achieving unity the members told each other off on how heartless they still were.

I learnt more about the dynamics of projection there than found evidence of the unified heart theory...although in my "heart" believe in it.

Here is a paragraph from the Energetic Heart document...I'm sure it is in line with what you were "thinking" of.



Your energetic heart is multi-leveled and holographic, meaning that it encompasses the dimensions of life that range from the mundane, dense, three-dimensional environment to the mystical and supernal dimensions of First Source. At its core energetic frequency it is coupled to the grid of love that interpenetrates all dimensions and all life. At the point of this coupling, the heart beats within the soul, similar to how its rhythms pulse through the body electromagnetically9.
The heart of the human soul is in accord with the heart of First Source. Remember, we are created in the image of our Maker. Within this Heart of hearts is the transmission upon which we all live and have our being. It is from here that we have been diverted—our attentions split into a thousand directions, forgetting—no, underestimating our heart’s intelligence and the ease in which we can apply its special powers.

Yes, it does. Would it help your cynacism if I told you I only ever frequent 2 forums, this and another, neither heart forums :) I say "I was shown" which means I was shown in a vision or internal seeing. It's good to see that the same view expressed a little differently resonated with you. It kind of adds a touch of credibility to an idea when two sources arrive at it independently.

Love

[ulli]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

Or we could view it otherwise: the mind is where we think in terms of duality, the heart is where we think from the perspective of unity, or oneness.

....even though the heart has four chambers.....(?)

expressed feminine, unexpressed feminine, expressed male, unexpressed male

Very good!! :thumb: :agree:

[ulli]

The heart truly is the meeting place in the body between that which is "above", and that which is "below". I was shown a while ago that that the root, sacral, and solar plexus equate to the 3D, the throat is the gateway to the higher dimensions of pineal/crown/transpersonals, but the place where all meets is the heart - the abode of God, and of ourselves (for we are God, would we but know it). Rosa Mundi - Rose of the World - this earth is a gift from our Heart-Love. Light/Dark, male/female, +/-, co-exist in the heart. The heart is beyond time and space, and why should we be surprised to find that the destination we have sought so fervently has resided within us all along? The only way to combat the many ills of this world is through the heart. It is, quite literally, the way.

I studied quite a bit about it, too...
especially the heart math website and also the Wingmakers 'Energetic Heart" document.

Here is a statement which states in effect what you said.

What had me return to cynicism (though I hope not to stay there)
is seeing how on all the heart forums instead of achieving unity the members told each other off on how heartless they still were.

I learnt more about the dynamics of projection there than found evidence of the unified heart theory...although in my "heart" believe in it.

Here is a paragraph from the Energetic Heart document...I'm sure it is in line with what you were "thinking" of.



Your energetic heart is multi-leveled and holographic, meaning that it encompasses the dimensions of life that range from the mundane, dense, three-dimensional environment to the mystical and supernal dimensions of First Source. At its core energetic frequency it is coupled to the grid of love that interpenetrates all dimensions and all life. At the point of this coupling, the heart beats within the soul, similar to how its rhythms pulse through the body electromagnetically9.
The heart of the human soul is in accord with the heart of First Source. Remember, we are created in the image of our Maker. Within this Heart of hearts is the transmission upon which we all live and have our being. It is from here that we have been diverted—our attentions split into a thousand directions, forgetting—no, underestimating our heart’s intelligence and the ease in which we can apply its special powers.

Yes, it does. Would it help your cynacism if I told you I only ever frequent 2 forums, this and another, neither heart forums :) I say "I was shown" which means I was shown in a vision or internal seeing. It's good to see that the same view expressed a little differently resonated with you. It kind of adds a touch of credibility to an idea when two sources arrive at it independently.

Love


That was the main reason I was all over the place with my search.
I found before I started my search....
then I searched to find others who had the same experience....
and to develop the "language" with which to impart that which is beyond words.
That way it's all about resonance.

[music]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

Or we could view it otherwise: the mind is where we think in terms of duality, the heart is where we think from the perspective of unity, or oneness.

....even though the heart has four chambers.....(?)

expressed feminine, unexpressed feminine, expressed male, unexpressed male

Very good!! :thumb: :agree:

These also are one aspect of the sides of the tetrahedrons of the merkaba

[ulli]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

Or we could view it otherwise: the mind is where we think in terms of duality, the heart is where we think from the perspective of unity, or oneness.

....even though the heart has four chambers.....(?)

expressed feminine, unexpressed feminine, expressed male, unexpressed male

Very good!! :thumb: :agree:

These also are one aspect of the sides of the tetrahedrons of the merkaba


Yep!
Also the shapes of the planets and stars as they line up at birth...opposites create duality perception, which the Grand Trine (3x 120 degree angles) is about integrated perception.
The duality person is more prone to action, as if to escape from the discomfort of feeling separated
while the trine personality is already "there" and often leads a more passive life and even non-creative life.

[music]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

Or we could view it otherwise: the mind is where we think in terms of duality, the heart is where we think from the perspective of unity, or oneness.

....even though the heart has four chambers.....(?)

expressed feminine, unexpressed feminine, expressed male, unexpressed male

Very good!! :thumb: :agree:

These also are one aspect of the sides of the tetrahedrons of the merkaba


Yep!
Also the shapes of the planets and stars as they line up at birth...opposites create duality perception, which the Grand Trine (3x 120 degree angles) is about integrated perception.
The duality person is more prone to action, as if to escape from the discomfort of feeling separated
while the trine personality is already "there" and often leads a more passive life and even non-creative life.

I like your take on duality people.

The power of 3. Yes, we should never underestimate the power of 3. Another seeing I have had concerns the nature of the trinity - Masculine/Feminine/Magic (Spirit). Myths like Adam/Eve/Serpent, or St George/Maiden/Dragon speak to us of the neccesity to intergrate the male/female/spirit within the heart-space if we wish to "ascend" (for wont of a better word). These signposts to us have been subverted (switched) so as to point us in the direction of isolation, not unity.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

First we are programmed we are separate individuals.

Then we are programmed we are all connected.

Perhaps next will be: We are not at all.

[greybeard]

First we are programmed we are separate individuals.

Then we are programmed we are all connected.

Perhaps next will be: We are not at all.

There never was an individual there in the first place.
One consciousness expressing through various forms.
There is only one soul and we are that.
The mind cant get it.
Enlightenment is that state where this is known experientially.

Chris

[baddbob]

Very powerful and moving and so true. Can you imagine if we had politicians that thought with there hearts instead of logic.We can only pray for this.

[aranuk]

The Dangers of .................Too Much.

I like to leave that space blank....to fill in whatever.
I admit I often think too much but I also know an awful lot of people who think too little.

So the trick is to identify when the word "too" becomes operational.
Fine line there, I say.

Just thinking out loud here...

But not too loud, thank God, and Ulli!

Stan

[Black Panther]

I like it, fill in the blank
The Dangers of .................Too Much.
Thanks Ulli

So than we have "The Dangers of thanking Ulli Too Much, right ? :p

[Black Panther]

We need to know the middle point between the two of them. Heart and mind work together, balance is the key.

Or we could view it otherwise: the mind is where we think in terms of duality, the heart is where we think from the perspective of unity, or oneness.

Very true! Something can feel right or wrong. That's very easy. Working with the mind is always very conflicting. Lately people are contradicting themselves in the same sentence! It's time to focus more
on the heart / intuïtion / feelings instead of only using the endless / contradicting mind.

[Jenci]

[QUOTE=music;366372][QUOTE=seko;365740] Lately people are contradicting themselves in the same sentence!


"Yeah, no....." is a very popular expression these days. :)
jeanette

[Davidallany]

Thank you Dig for making a thread about not thinking too much by relaxing the analytical mind and letting the emotional mind operate as well
It's a wonderful insight that can only be achieved by experience, congratulations. May you have more and more experiences to help humanity and rest in the heart.

[Eagle]

Thank you Dig for making a thread about not thinking too much by relaxing the analytical mind and letting the emotional mind operate as well
It's a wonderful insight that can only be achieved by experience, congratulations. May you have more and more experiences to help humanity and rest in the heart.
we all need to make the tranistion to think with our heart, again emotion is of the mind feeling is of the heart