MMS - tasteless and odourless. the new CDS (chlorine dioxide solution)

[kevlor]

jim humbles newsletter today explains the benefits of the new way to take MMS. the CDS - clorine dioxide solution.

the following link will take you to the - MMS FORUM - with a 10 minute utube video and discussion by people applying the new methods.

http://genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=16&id=8260&Itemid=66

enjoy the new improved way to use MMS ... kev

[bennycog]

great because i have not been able to hold it down thank you heaps for this

[Arrowwind]

geesh, I just joined that mms forum and they sent me a link to activate my account and when I did a big red box came on and said my access was denied or I didnt yet activate my account.

anyone know what it up with that? there is no way to contact a forum administrator there..

[kevlor]

arrowwind - check your pm.

i had the same problem, but the next day, a email from the moderator of the forum,
explained they need to vet new members, so you should get a similar email soon ... kev

[kevlor]

bumping this up for anybody who might otherwise miss it.

i have made up the new CDS - chlorine dioxide solution - and it works a treat.

very easy to do, the link above will take you to the video that explains how.

cheers ... kev

[Wiremu2011]

Lets be honest here about mms, but hype was bigger than the expected results..right? People i know who used it meticulously had less than spectacular results. And I havent seen much great testimony going viral. Just my observation.

[kevlor]

your attitude noted - wiremu - i will just -- agree to disagree ... kev

[Wiremu2011]

Its not my attitude at all, just the observation from my viewpoint has been less than the results i anticipated. As you say, lets agree to disagree

[Jonathon]

Fantastic - thanks for this!

[Arrowwind]

Well I think that if you use mms for diseases that are not of a parasite or microbe cause you will have less than spectacular results. That being said the use of mms is indicating that perhaps many more diseases than we thought have significant microbial involvement including some that are classified as autoimmune disorders... including diabetes for some people. It may also help alleviate diseases caused by heavy metal toxicity as it does detox some metals as revealed by hair analysis studies.

Recently in my neck of the woods a little boy had a serious rash all over his body. Antibiotics were prescribed which indicates that the doctor thought it was a bacterial skin infection, but the family chose to use mms instead. He was cured in just a few days.

[Carmody]

great because i have not been able to hold it down thank you heaps for this

Very simple:

Unsweetened cranberry juice.


Unsweetened cranberry juice.


Unsweetened cranberry juice.

(no ascorbic acid, no sugars added)

I can't say it enough times. :)

I've done up to..just to say I tested it..over 20 drops, with only 3.5-oz of unsweetened cranberry juice.

[bennycog]

carmody you treasure thanx..

[Arrowwind]

I think that I would add to my above post that mms clearly fortifies the blood improving the immune system clearly indicated with exam of RBC and WBC with dark field microscopy.. so with improved blood you will have better immune response and better oxygen supply to all cells which of course theoretically will improve general health even in issues not related to microbial invasion.

Geesh, I wish some real studies were done on this stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ICUzPOAqE=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ICUzPOAqE&feature=player_embedded)#!
People are working on how to mix everything to get the optimum ppm solution of CDS which has not yet been established. The opinon is that it will be somewhere between 150 to 500 ppm. You will need some kind of tool to measure this.. Ill give details on dosage when when I know but the general thought is about one cc per dose. Apparrently people are tolerating this product much better than the old mix. Please consider this information only at this point. I need to provide more clarification on dosage... so please be patient and dont try this yet.

hot plate
pot or coffee pot
one 2 ounce baby bottle with plastic nipple
one 8 ounce baby bottle
one hard plastic line
vessel to hold ice water and 8 ounce bottle
Two 4 ounce bottles with tight lids to hold CDS
One ounce of MMS 28% solution
One ounce of citric acid 50% solution
Funnel
candy thermometer, digital (best buy found in Harbor Freight)

This is a video of the man who developed the process for Jim. This man uses normal saline to make the CDS. It seems that Jim does not think this is necessary. I will try to get clarification. Saline would certianly be of choice if you were going to inject it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t2V7NOsnJM=related

[GaelVictor]

great because i have not been able to hold it down thank you heaps for this

Very simple:

Unsweetened cranberry juice.


Unsweetened cranberry juice.


Unsweetened cranberry juice.

(no ascorbic acid, no sugars added)

I can't say it enough times. :)

I've done up to..just to say I tested it..over 20 drops, with only 3.5-oz of unsweetened cranberry juice.

That would probably be a bad idea as cranberries contain 10 mg of vitamine C per 100 grams, and as you know vit.C catches away the chlorine dioxide, which is the working component of MMS.
I would suggest applejuice from the big stores, definately no vit.C in them and takes away the horrible taste.

[Wiremu2011]

Well I think that if you use mms for diseases that are not of a parasite or microbe cause you will have less than spectacular results. That being said the use of mms is indicating that perhaps many more diseases than we thought have significant microbial involvement including some that are classified as autoimmune disorders... including diabetes for some people. It may also help alleviate diseases caused by heavy metal toxicity as it does detox some metals as revealed by hair analysis studies.

Recently in my neck of the woods a little boy had a serious rash all over his body. Antibiotics were prescribed which indicates that the doctor thought it was a bacterial skin infection, but the family chose to use mms instead. He was cured in just a few days.

Thanks Arrowind. That is interesting. I truly want to believe the results are above and beyond what I've researched and there have been some "good" outcomes. Because like all of us, we are so angry at what the the elites are withholding from us in the form of "cures", and that something like MMS would come along and be, if I may say - our saving grace from disease. I like everyone else on this open minded forum are searching deep and wide for the mysteries that behold us, and something like a great non conventional cure is always welcoming and encouraging. Out of interest (my son also occasionally gets skin infections), how was the MMS administered to get the desired result? Thank you.

[witchy1]

Hey there Wiremu2011. I have taken it - its absolutely disgusting after a while - but extremely effective. There are some truely miraculous reports inlcuding from my own family and appears to have cured my cuzzie of breast cancer.

I have to say I didnt find it good for atopic dermatitis / eczema - sometimes the Docs have the goods and steroids are the way to go. Also not great for foot fungus (YEW - I know). Not sure what your son has technically speaking. You apply it directly to the area - maybe a spray on wait 5 mins and rinse off (like for sunburn). Its also THE best for mozzie bites

For any pussy thing on the body I have to go with home made colliodal silver. Will even cure a boil not yet ready - if you catch my drift. (have to soak a gauze and cover it overnight) at 20ppm

MMS for burns tho, specifically oil splatters - all the way

This is my experience thus far.

Give it a shot but bring on the new "tasteless" receipe

[Arrowwind]

how was the MMS administered to get the desired result? Thank you.

Sorry I dont know. If it were me I would have taken it orally and done a topical spray that would be rinsed off after 3 minutes. I might also have considered a tub bath with it in it. It can be rough on tender skin sometimes so you dont want to leave it on very long. Jim humbles website tells may protocols for different kinds of applications.

I've used it for many things over the last 4 years

My son had a huge red boil on his but. He thought it was a spider bit. Topical mms got rid of it in short order.. I used it for spider bit recently and it dried the ulcer up in less than 2 days.

I have a friend who has pretty well gotten rid of crohns disease with it but he also uses low dose naltrexone.. But he said the gut symptoms went with the mms.. the naltrexone keeps them away.

Many canses of eczema are caused by allergy, which mms is not that effective with.

Its so hard to say what will cure what at times. I have seen cases where mms cured psoriasis but when I did mms it didnt touch the psoriasis I had, not even a little bit. Only vitamin D3 got rid of it.

witchy, you should try to get your cuzzie to post her cancer cure story on Jim Humbles website in the testimonial section. I've heard of at least 4 breast cancer cures with mms now.. www.jimhumble.biz (http://www.jimhumble.biz)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

This procedure will make your MMS much easier to take ( doesnt taste as bad) and works just as good as you are used too

You will need,

1 small baby bottle
1 aquarium airpump
1 mason jar, 2 holes poked in lid
some airhose for the pump
MMS
Activator
eggtimer ( 20 minutes does it for me)
some music ( i used Lee Perry and Mad Proffessor for the occasion "super ape inna good shape)
happy artwork worksurface
happy test tubes to make things more fun
3 cocktail umbrellas.
1 partypopper ( succes must be celebrated)

What you do!

Cut 2 tight slits in the babybottle top, cut off your airhose at an angle for easy insertion, insert, stick other side of hose in airpump, cut of another piece of airhose, insert in bottletop on opposite side, drill two tight holes in the lid of the mason jar, insert the secondhose through the lid, fill jar with water, screw top on and push hose through till hits bottom on jar, drop 25 drops of activator and MMS in the baby bottle, screw bottle on top of bottle, shake, plug airpump in, bubble away for 20 minutes ( set egg times) you are done. ( your water has turned yellow now)

Poor water in 1 liter bottle, divide bottle in pieces of 1/8 ( start in the middle, use sharpy), drink 1/8 every hour.

BYEBYE nasty bugs, do not come back please.

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[Alan]

I appreciate the effort, but my God that music is annoying. I would much rather have heard you explaining what you were doing.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I appreciate the effort, but my God that music is annoying. I would much rather have heard you explaining what you were doing.

Turn your sound off and read my description will work too.

Thank you, have a nice day too.

[kersley]

I'm on the floor rolling in laughter listening to those lyrics. What's the name and artist of that song?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I'm on the floor rolling in laughter listening to those lyrics. What's the name and artist of that song?

Lee Perry & Mad Proffessor............ Super ape inna good shape;)

[conk]

Most have not heard of Lee Perry, but he's the man! Rolling Stone layed out a great story on him a few years ago.

Thanks for the MMS tip. It does get pretty yucky at times.

One more anecdote regarding MMS. My sister cured persistant toenail fungus using it. She had tried near everything and MMS finally did it.

[ThePythonicCow]

This procedure will make your MMS much easier to take ( doesnt taste as bad) and works just as good as you are used too
What do the letters "CDS" stand for (in this thread's title) ?

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Aha - I figured it out (well, Google figured it out.)

CDS stands for Chlorine Dioxide Solution.

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I merged your new thread on CDS into an earlier CDS thread MMS - tasteless and odourless. the new CDS (clorine dioxide solution) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35807-MMS-tasteless-and-odourless.-the-new-CDS--clorine-dioxide-solution-), as there was too much good stuff on both threads, on the same topic, that I didn't want getting lost.

[ThePythonicCow]

Here is a video by of one of the creators of CDS, Andreas Kalcker, explaining how to make it and its advantages. The video was posted earlier in this now merged thread, and I posted it again in the newer thread before merging. It's worth keeping the double post :).
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From the Youtube comment from that video:



In this video Andreas describes his new development of CDS ( chlorine dioxide solution) For all those that can not support the taste of the standard MMS . It is easy to make and the taste is not nearly as bad as the original MMS making it possible to take higher doses if necessary, special for terminal diseases.
If you prefer the written word, this site has more information about CDS: New - * CDS * - No more taste problem !! (http://www.miraclemineral.co.nz/cds.html).

[ThePythonicCow]

This page: The Basic Science of MMS (Chlorine Dioxide) (http://educate-yourself.org/mms/chlorinedioxidebasics004sep12.shtml) has an excellent and recent overview of MMS, it's chemistry, and of the various ways to make MMS, including MMS1, MMS2, and 3 ways to make CDS.

Here are three more videos from that page explaining CDS and how to make it:

Improved technique using an air pump to pump heated chlorine dioxide gas into multible water bottles using silicone tubing


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Jim Humble: Information on making CDS:


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[ThePythonicCow]

As I researched Andreas Kalcker further, I realized that Bill Ryan and Project Avalon have been helping him get his word out for almost two years now. See a major thread started by Bill on both Jim Humble and Andreas Kalcker in April 2010 at Jim Humble update (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?937-Jim-Humble-update).

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Improved technique using an air pump to pump heated chlorine dioxide gas into multible water bottles using silicone tubing

First video of the three you posted was excellent Paul, very efficient, had not seen it before but makes complete sense, a 1000 thank you's are still not enough.

Something you still may consider, use glass as much as you can, supposedly many plastic bottles contain hormone disruptors (conspiracy right there for you), i have no idea how this reacts chemically with the CDS, so when you are done making it, store in glass, for on the go, plastic will do since you drink your bottle during the day.

Thanks again Paul, i make CDS for over a year now and just decided to film the batch i made this time and post it, i was not aware of the three bottle method at all, again, muchas gracias for digging into it and posting/merging.

[william6565william]

jim humbles newsletter today explains the benefits of the new way to take MMS. the CDS - clorine dioxide solution.

the following link will take you to the - MMS FORUM - with a 10 minute utube video and discussion by people applying the new methods.

http://genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=16&id=8260&Itemid=66

enjoy the new improved way to use MMS ... kev

Regarding cds, I have recently come accross the shot glass method of making cds, which involves putting one glass of activated mms into another larger glass of water with a flexable sealed top. I have tried, with success, using a pressure cooker pot and found that the pot gave me more room to work with in addition to having a pressure valve if needed. Just thought this might be a way of making cds more efficiently.

[Bill Ryan]

Lets be honest here about mms, but hype was bigger than the expected results..right? People i know who used it meticulously had less than spectacular results. And I havent seen much great testimony going viral. Just my observation.

It seems to work differently with different people. Some folks respond rapidly and even miraculously (and I have personally witnessed one miracle, and I don't use that word lightly: see below). Some others don't seem to respond at all.

I spent time with a Swiss medical doctor who went to Africa with Jim Humble to document the dramatic effects of administering it to malaria victims. It worked like a charm -- and this spurred the doctor to do his own research into how and why it worked. He concluded that MMS did not work the way that Jim Humble described (referencing my video interviews) -- and stated that there was something about the mechanism that was not properly understood. But work -- it (usually) did.

The miracle I experienced was with a Swiss woman in her 40s whom I knew personally. She had had mild brain damage when she was a child, which resulted in her eyeballs pointing in slightly different directions. This affected her eyesight, her appearance, and her confidence. She'd had the condition for most of her life.

She took 4 or 5 drops of MMS twice for a cold. Maybe it was three times. Then, suddenly... her eyes straightened out. It was clearly visible. I and a whole group of her friends got together, and we all witnessed this.

Most people were crying. It was extraordinary. No-one could believe it.

We half-expected this to be a temporary effect. But it wasn't. Three years later, her eyesight is still restored. As stated above, there's something about the action of MMS that's not understood. Whatever remedied this longstanding physical condition did not seem to be simply killing a virus. Something astonishing occurred which allowed the body to fix itself; that's the only way I can describe it.

[ThePythonicCow]

Here's a well written explanation of MMS, with a bit of its history, chemistry, instructions and uses: No Miracle, Just Wonderful Chemistry (http://phaelosopher.com/2007/09/09/no-miracle-just-wonderful-chemistry/). It includes links to three audio interviews that the author, Adam Abraham (phaelosopher), did with Jim Humble (see near the bottom of the article.)

In addition to this article (updated several times since first posted in 2007), phaelosopher has written other posts on MMS, including MMS: Evolving New Insights, New Protocols (http://phaelosopher.com/2010/04/22/mms-evolving-new-insights-new-protocols/) and In His Own Words: The Chlorite Matrix (http://phaelosopher.com/2012/09/23/in-his-own-words-the-chlorite-matrix-2/).

Phaelosopher is also the producer of UnderstandingMMS: Conversations with Jim Humble (http://shop.understanding-mms.com/understandingmmsdvd.aspx). He's a pleasure to listen to and to read. His Youtube channel is at http://www.youtube.com/user/phaelosopher. If you use the Youtube feature to search on a channel, and search his channel for "MMS", you will find some 43 Youtube videos that phaelosopher has done on MMS over the last 5 years.

[araucaria]

I see from New - * CDS * - No more taste problem !! (http://www.miraclemineral.co.nz/cds.html). that CDS has FDA approval - sounds like a big breakthrough. When did that happen?

[ThePythonicCow]

I see from New - * CDS * - No more taste problem !! (http://www.miraclemineral.co.nz/cds.html). that CDS has FDA approval - sounds like a big breakthrough. When did that happen?
A long time ago :).

To quote the article you linked:



Chlorine Dioxide is FDA approved for food contact use:
Food Contact Substance CAS Reg. No. 10049-04-4.

Food producers can, and do, spray Chlorine Dioxide on meats and produce as a germicide.

[araucaria]

I see from New - * CDS * - No more taste problem !! (http://www.miraclemineral.co.nz/cds.html). that CDS has FDA approval - sounds like a big breakthrough. When did that happen?
A long time ago :).

To quote the article you linked:



Chlorine Dioxide is FDA approved for food contact use:
Food Contact Substance CAS Reg. No. 10049-04-4.

Food producers can, and do, spray Chlorine Dioxide on meats and produce as a germicide.

Yes but MMS is not, or is it?

[ThePythonicCow]

Yes but MMS is not, or is it?
The last I knew, which might be out of date (or just plain wrong), is that the FDA put out a warning on the dangers of MMS in 2010.

P.S. -- Yes -- See Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) Warning Issued by FDA Over Health Risks (July 2010) (http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/miracle-mineral-solution-mms-warning-11838/)

[araucaria]

'bout time the FDA tried a bit of consistency then

[ThePythonicCow]

'bout time the FDA tried a bit of consistency then

They're plenty consistent alright ... just not in the way I'd prefer.

[araucaria]

CDS ok MMS no no? where's the consistency in that?

[shadowless]

It worked for my dog's so called skin allergies for sure. I went to the dermatologist who did all sort of scientific test like a robot yet all she could offer was vaccination which i refused. She tested that the antibiotics works on the bacteria on the sore wounds so the dog has been on months of antibiotics. Every time she recovers i stop the drug, the allergies would recurred. This went on for half a year till i gave her MMS and it works.

[william6565william]

I am going to have my dog spayed and would like to know if someone can comment on using mms spray or DMSO to spray on the incision to help it heal. Would this sting in any way. Also is pharmaceutical grade DMSO suitable for internal use for adults and animals.
Any other comments regarding efforts to help the healing process would be greatly appreciated.

[Arrowwind]

for what its worth Adam Abraham has been interviewing some scientist guy who says mixing activated mms with baking soda is a big no no. The resulting chemical is not a good idea. I haven't looked into this really. Just letting you know what I came across. I dont use baking soda with mms so its not an issue for me. We always must assume that chlorine dioxide is reactive. Be careful of what you do and dont stray from the original protocols.

[meat suit]

Lets be honest here about mms, but hype was bigger than the expected results..right? People i know who used it meticulously had less than spectacular results. And I havent seen much great testimony going viral. Just my observation.

It seems to work differently with different people. Some folks respond rapidly and even miraculously (and I have personally witnessed one miracle, and I don't use that word lightly: see below). Some others don't seem to respond at all.

I spent time with a Swiss medical doctor who went to Africa with Jim Humble to document the dramatic effects of administering it to malaria victims. It worked like a charm -- and this spurred the doctor to do his own research into how and why it worked. He concluded that MMS did not work the way that Jim Humble described (referencing my video interviews) -- and stated that there was something about the mechanism that was not properly understood. But work -- it (usually) did.

The miracle I experienced was with a Swiss woman in her 40s whom I knew personally. She had had mild brain damage when she was a child, which resulted in her eyeballs pointing in slightly different directions. This affected her eyesight, her appearance, and her confidence. She'd had the condition for most of her life.

She took 4 or 5 drops of MMS twice for a cold. Maybe it was three times. Then, suddenly... her eyes straightened out. It was clearly visible. I and a whole group of her friends got together, and we all witnessed this.

Most people were crying. It was extraordinary. No-one could believe it.

We half-expected this to be a temporary effect. But it wasn't. Three years later, her eyesight is still restored. As stated above, there's something about the action of MMS that's not understood. Whatever remedied this longstanding physical condition did not seem to be simply killing a virus. Something astonishing occurred which allowed the body to fix itself; that's the only way I can describe it.

Bill,
the OP video on this thread has a possible explantion to the ladies eysight restoration.... http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54590-Why-we-are-ALL-sick-Dr-R.E.-Tent-It--s-not-Autoimmune----You-Have-Viruses-
somewhere around 1.30 -1.40 he talkes about a lady who s face went into spasm because a virus had attacked a facial nerve... the whole thing is a must watch anyway....

[sineck]

wiremu, hope this finds you happy happy. im not going to disagree with you, however i can say in my field i have seen many incredible things accomplished with mms, and im saying incredible. not going to get into everything, but will have to say that if used correctly and with a diet that is sufficient to balance the condition or disease it does work. For example. If i have a patient that comes to me with diabetes and starts to use mms, however everyday or so continues to partake in things that he or she should not. how could it work. Also there are protocols. For instance you cannot use any citrus while on your dosage. These are just a couple of things in a myriad that you need to look into. MMS does work. I have seen it. And will stand firm. It is not a hype. It is a science. One that many medical practitioners including myself will swear on. THANKS. S

[ThePythonicCow]

I have been refining this method of producing CDS over the last year or two.

Presently I use six 8 oz glass baby bottles, with silicon nipples in each, connected by silicon tubing, and with fish tank airstone diffusers. A fish tank air pump force feeds air into the first bottle. That bottle is immersed in hot water, and contains the reactants, which are a 2 tablespoons of water, 2 teaspoons of sodium chlorite (dry) flakes, and 2 teaspoons of citric acid powder. This gives off a potent chlorine dioxide (ClO2) gas which is sequentially absorbed by the 8 ounces of cold water in each of the other four bottles, which are immersed in ice cold water (preferably below 11 C, 52 F, the boiling point of ClO2 gas). For the airstones, I expect to start using the small Sweetwater® Silica Airstones (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=8121) in future batches, which I just received. I've used cheaper stones in the past.

Both tube connections to the first bottle, sitting in hot water and holding the reactants, extend only a short distance into the bottle. One of these tubes comes from the air pump, and the other goes to the first cold water bottle. The input tube to each of the cold water bottles goes all the way to an air stone in the bottom of the bottle, and the output tube is short, ending -above- the water level, going to the next cold water bottle. The output tube from the final cold water bottle just exhausts into the air, though not much ClO2 gas makes it that far, having been absorbed by all the cold water in the 4 bottles it had to traverse first.


The most essential step in this process is making sure almost no gas leaks out from improperly connected tubing. ClO2 is nasty stuff to breath, hard on the lungs, and at higher air concentrations, actually explosive. So I put the 2 Tbsp water and 2 tsp sodium chlorite into the reactant bottle (which causes no reaction), and connect everything up, making sure that all four cold water bottles are bubbling air nicely when the air pump is turned on. If only some of the cold bottles are bubbling, then there's an air leak, which must be fixed first. Only then, when the setup tests to have no air leaks, do I quickly remove the top from the reactant bottle, dump in the pre-measured 2 tsp of citric acid powder, and put the top back on, making sure that the bubbles resume showing up in all four bottles.

I then let the reaction run for 30 to 60 minutes, until the reactant solution is about as lightly colored as it's going to get. The reactant solution starts out as a deep, brownish, yellow, and ends up as a nearly clear greenish yellow.

I then rotate my cold bottles, as the one nearest the reactant bottle will end up with a stronger concentration. Dump out the light yellow water in the reactant bottle and use fresh water, on each cycle -- that water ends up having a very high concentration of dissolved salt, and if more than one test run is attempted using the same water, the salt will come out of solution as damp, solid, salt.

While the reaction was running, I have kept the 6th baby bottle, also containing water, in the refrigerator during the above time. I take that bottle out, move the highest concentration bottle into the refrigerator, and connect up the cold bottles again with the one containing the least concentration (lighest yellow color) closest to the reactant bottle. I then add fresh water (2 Tbsp) and sodium chlorite powder (2 tsp), test the setup again to ensure no air leaks, and add the 2 tsp citric acid powder.

I repeat that reaction process and rotation 4 or 5 times, taking several hours to produce 5 bottles of ClO2 (CDS) solution, which I then can store in the refrigerator indefinitely. So long as it is kept capped tightly, in a glass bottle and below 11 C (52 F), CDS will last essentially forever.

The resulting CDS solution, measures out, using LaMotte's now available Insta-Test High Range Chlorine Dioxide test strips, at (quite) approximately 6000 ppm, which is fairly strong. These test strips only test up to 500 ppm, so I dilute my product to 1 part in 30 in order to test it.

The sodium chlorite powder (flakes) and citric acid powder can be purchased in bulk for lower cost and more efficient shipping than the liquid forms, and they have indefinitely long storage times. So one can have on hand, in long term storage, the raw materials required to make large quantities of CDS, for minimal cost.

The essential difference between CDS and MMS is that CDS contains just the chlorine dioxide gas in solution, with none of the other reactant bi-products and none of the other (supposedly inert) elements found in the input ingredients. I see some statements that CDS is less effective than MMS for some purposes; I have so far been quite unable to validate those statements.

[Bob]

Paul, is what you are describing, basically the process that water treatment plants use, but in a microscopic scale in your illustration?

In other words, creating a high concentration of "free-chlorine" in drinking water? Good to see you using those test strips for active chlorine..

Second question, since different types of hypochlorites are available such as for swimming pools and hot tubs, has anyone tried using those? One would assume that chlorination (water disinfection) substances are available then in department stores, or spa or swimming pool stores, is that correct?

[Hervé]

[...]

Second question, since different types of hypochlorites are available such as for swimming pools and hot tubs, has anyone tried using those? One would assume that chlorination (water disinfection) substances are available then in department stores, or spa or swimming pool stores, is that correct?

Yep, some people have used "Pool Shock" or the like to produce MMS. I think I even posted a report on it somewhere...

Try this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74817-How-do-you-best-use-MMS&p=875122&viewfull=1#post875122

[Bob]

Hervé hia - thanks, i was wondering. Then using the two substances, the pool disinfectant plus the shock substance to create active gas liberation, using Paul's capture system/bubbler, should then produce copious quantities of chlorine dioxide gas with minimal off-the-shelf, readily obtainable substances (not requiring sodium chlorite). I think one would not want to drink the pool shock stuff, but only use it to create the water sterilization gas..

[Hervé]

Yep, that would work to produce either since the commercial pool stuff contains a certain amount/% of sodium chlorite,

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, is what you are describing, basically the process that water treatment plants use, but in a microscopic scale in your illustration?

In other words, creating a high concentration of "free-chlorine" in drinking water? Good to see you using those test strips for active chlorine..

Second question, since different types of hypochlorites are available such as for swimming pools and hot tubs, has anyone tried using those? One would assume that chlorination (water disinfection) substances are available then in department stores, or spa or swimming pool stores, is that correct?

MMS is NOT chlorination, and I am NOT using chlorine test strips :).

MMS and its cousins are chlorine dioxide, and the new test strips that I am using are for chlorine dioxide.

A few municipal water supplies do use chlorine dioxide for water treatment, though most use chlorine and variants. The chemistry of chlorine dioxide is quite different from that for chlorine (aka bleach) ... as the voltage of the chlorine dioxide molecule is lower, less aggressive, so more selective in what it interacts with.

[ThePythonicCow]

Yep, some people have used "Pool Shock" or the like to produce MMS. I think I even posted a report on it somewhere...

Try this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74817-How-do-you-best-use-MMS&p=875122&viewfull=1#post875122

Hervé hia - thanks, i was wondering. Then using the two substances, the pool disinfectant plus the shock substance to create active gas liberation, using Paul's capture system/bubbler, should then produce copious quantities of chlorine dioxide gas with minimal off-the-shelf, readily obtainable substances (not requiring sodium chlorite). I think one would not want to drink the pool shock stuff, but only use it to create the water sterilization gas..


No ! :).

Pool Shock does not contain sodium chlorite. It contains calcium hypochlorite. From that one link above, calcium hypochlorite might be relevant to making MMS2 (not MMS) ... but I've not paid any attention to MMS2, so could easily be wrong there.

One can purchase sodium chlorite flakes (aka powder), one of the two essential ingredients for MMS and its cousins (CDS, CDH, ...) from various places, such as

http://www.shop.a2zhealthproducts.com/Sodium-Chlorite_c5.htm
http://www.wps4sale.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=Sodium+Chlorite%2FCitric+Acid+Powders
http://www.discovermms.com/
http://sodiumchloriteshop.com/sodium-chlorite-powder-products

[Bob]

Paul, Where did you get CHLORINE DIOXIDE test strips then and why won't active chlorine test strips work, if the substance that is being determined is how much active chlorine is there present?

And my question about the bubbler, then is that the same way that is used to inject "regular chlorine gas" into water for disinfection? I am wanting to understand your logic.

I am reading that chlorine dioxide in water breaks down over time (possibly light may contribute to breakdown, not sure yet) to the formation of a by-product chlorite, so I am not sure about how the chlorine with the 2 Oxygen molecules doesn't split over time. Does your test strip set check for chlorites? I have no data on how long it remains stable in water in other words.

[Bob]

Yep, that would work to produce either since the commercial pool stuff contains a certain amount/% of sodium chlorite,

I've been looking at the chemistry reactions to wrap my mind around what happens with organics such as when one had that (organic) biscuit the night before and then ingests chlorine dioxide water, what happens, to understand if there is a chloride formation, or chlorosoamines (organic amino acids for instance plus chlorine dioxide)..

The chemistry reaction of what happens, and why interests me to understand why this substance works when ingesting, what is happening, is there decomposition.. Data says chlorine dioxide works as a disinfectant because it is a strong free radical generator - causing oxidation reactions, so that would explain its disinfection ability..

I did see this that chlorine dioxide when it is mixed with organics (like food), can produce this:
Gilli (1990) showed the formation of

carbonyl compounds (34 :g/litre) such as n-valeraldehyde (7–15 :g/litre),
formaldehyde (3.4–9 :g/litre),
acetaldehyde (4.5 :g/litre) and
acetone (3.2 :g/litre)

after using chlorine dioxide.

Chlorite formation -

Chlorite ion is also produced when chlorine dioxide reacts with organics (Gordon & Rosenblatt, 1996) and

Chlorine dioxide can also undergo a series of photochemically initiated reactions resulting in the formation of chlorate ion (Gordonet al., 1995).

Something interesting -
I've noticed that there are chlorine dioxide pills available in WalMart, or other department stores used for water treatment (they say they are based on the sodium chlorite substance plus something that looks like pool shock to cause the gas liberation)..

The references for the chlorite and chlorate production from coming in contact with organics (various interesting substances formed), and the sunlight reaction is here:
http://www.who.int/ipcs/publications/ehc/216_disinfectants_part_2.pdf

What I found fascinating is although the formation of the valeraldehyde formation is generally innocuous, the formation of the other organic compounds byproducts could be concerning specifically this:

Ivancev-Tumbas and Dalmacija (2001) reported that formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, glyoxal and methylglyoxale are the by-products of natural organic matter oxidation by ClO2.

The authors (Dąbrowska et al., 2003, Świetlik et al. 2004) have previously shown, that the reaction of ClO2 with "humic" substances present in disinfected water is responsible for the formation of aldehydes and the formation of carbonyl compounds takes place as long as chlorine dioxide disinfectant is available in water.

Well is having formaldehyde in your body, or acetone, or acetaldehyde useful?

If those carbonyl compounds then will form with chlorine dioxide plus an organic is present, (i.e. food? sugar? vitamins? amino acids, blood components?) are those carbonyl products useful?

Are the chlorites useful?

more reference data on chlorine dioxide plus organics - what is produced: (here (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:k_NYAIfWy2AJ:journal.gnest.org/sites/default/files/Journal%2520Papers/7_1_Dabrowska-332_61-71.pdf+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us))

Chlorine dioxide is a fascinating substance to kill viruses, bacteria, spores, giardia in the test-tube or in a water treatment plant.. Just wondering about those organic reactions..

[avid]

Bob - you are scaring me! What on earth can I take that won't make me have terrible 'gas', be poisoned, balance my bodily functions without in-fighting foods, yet kill the wee nasties that seem to be all-pervasive now? I'm still drinking a wee bit of colloidal silver, eating organics veggies, having an odd 'vape' (since I had to stop smoking), and going to bed at reasonable hours.
I seem to remember we use sodium metabisulphite to cleanse critical vessels prior to using for distillation processes. *Hopefully didn't make a spelling error* Nontheless, how clean can one be? It's all hairy stuff. :confused:

[778 neighbour of some guy]

This procedure will make your MMS much easier to take ( doesnt taste as bad) and works just as good as you are used too

You will need,

1 small baby bottle
1 aquarium airpump
1 mason jar, 2 holes poked in lid
some airhose for the pump
MMS
Activator
eggtimer ( 20 minutes does it for me)
some music ( i used Lee Perry and Mad Proffessor for the occasion "super ape inna good shape)
happy artwork worksurface
happy test tubes to make things more fun
3 cocktail umbrellas.
1 partypopper ( succes must be celebrated)

What you do!

Cut 2 tight slits in the babybottle top, cut off your airhose at an angle for easy insertion, insert, stick other side of hose in airpump, cut of another piece of airhose, insert in bottletop on opposite side, drill two tight holes in the lid of the mason jar, insert the secondhose through the lid, fill jar with water, screw top on and push hose through till hits bottom on jar, drop 25 drops of activator and MMS in the baby bottle, screw bottle on top of bottle, shake, plug airpump in, bubble away for 20 minutes ( set egg times) you are done. ( your water has turned yellow now)

Poor water in 1 liter bottle, divide bottle in pieces of 1/8 ( start in the middle, use sharpy), drink 1/8 every hour.

BYEBYE nasty bugs, do not come back please.

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Yay, my annoying noisy lab vid is still here, almost forgot all about it, lol, I am watching it again.

[Bob]

Bob - you are scaring me! What on earth can I take that won't make me have terrible 'gas', be poisoned, balance my bodily functions without in-fighting foods, yet kill the wee nasties that seem to be all-pervasive now? I'm still drinking a wee bit of colloidal silver, eating organics veggies, having an odd 'vape' (since I had to stop smoking), and going to bed at reasonable hours.
I seem to remember we use sodium metabisulphite to cleanse critical vessels prior to using for distillation processes. *Hopefully didn't make a spelling error* Nontheless, how clean can one be? It's all hairy stuff. :confused:

Well all i asked was what about what this research says when chlorine dioxide combines with organic substances. I don't know how to get organics out of the body and not have the stuff be formed. I suppose someone bright with a chromatograph could study (maybe an FTIR would work..) looking at what is produced and in what amounts. What I am asking is are those amounts significant? Are they dangerous? Folks are saying the chlorine dioxide is not dangerous, I am just asking about when those other substances are produced by the reaction, what does that mean? Somebody could answer that who is familiar with organic and inorganic chemistry, specifically those carbonyl reactions..

I think what could be anecdotally interesting is DCA (dichloroacetate) has been found with the chlorine dioxide plus organics... specifically acetic acid, or vinegar.. Anyone following DCA should be able to connect the dots why some folks with CANCERS have reported diminished tumors.. DCA a byproduct of the organic chemistry was being studied in Canada as a way to stop tumors from growing.. I would think understanding more of the "organic chemistry" happening in the stomach, what vitamins, or amino acids, foods present could be very enlightening.. Who knows maybe there is a great stuff going on. I don't have the lab equipment to test that stuff, that is WHY I am asking. I can find the research reports and try to wrap my head around the chemistry, and put "it" in English, and we could then have a discussion about what all MMS's chlorine dioxide does, and how.

[elearah]

I am going to have my dog spayed and would like to know if someone can comment on using mms spray or DMSO to spray on the incision to help it heal. Would this sting in any way. Also is pharmaceutical grade DMSO suitable for internal use for adults and animals.
Any other comments regarding efforts to help the healing process would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,
my dog caught his ear in a wire and opened it. When I found it it was a couple of hours later when I got home. I cleaned the wound with aloe vera, and added some castor oil afterwards (I don´t usually use mms for skin if I have aloe or castor oil at hand, it can burn in high concentrations and I never got the hang of it). It was not enough, he had a fever some hours later. So I started giving him mms with his water. Two drops in each change of water, and put cold water to numb the taste (he likes cold water when the temperatures are warm/hot). The first time I did use my hand to show him what I wanted. He understood fast, and took the water in spite of the taste. I gave him about 6 drops a day. In four days his ear was healed and had no fever at all. He was also jumping like a puppy, and he is six.
With mms in these cases you start seeing the results fast, and witness the recovery. They get better and better.

[elearah]

I have a question about CDS. I have seen it done with normal water and with saline solution, but what called my attention was Kerri Rivera mentioning something of doing it with sea water.
Someone tried it? How about concentration? Isotonic? That would be a powerful combination if they could work together.

[kevlor]

hi BOB, i have been reading with a lot of interest, your deliberations re MMS and what is actually going on inside the human body.

you might note, i was the person who started this thread.

i have been useing jim humbles various varities of mixtures of mms for close to seven years now. as i am 69, i now use the maintenance recommendation of three drops of activated sodium chlorite each night before bed. (i went through the recommended protocol to elimate problems in a hurry at the very start, and since then the three drops a day, in the main, have been enough to enable me to say, i have had exceptional health for over six years).

i appreciate your efforts to better understand how sodium chlorite, in its various forms, has various beneficial effects.

moderator - paul - has been very much on top of this through the years, i have read everything published on mms, watched all the utubes, read all the stories. i can only conclude at this stage of our human ignorance, there is possibly a huge amount of unknown benefits plus detrimental side effects, that dont appear to be big enough to overcome our bodys natural ability to elimate them.

thanks bob, i remain interested in any clarifications that may come your way ... kev

[gripreaper]

and we could then have a discussion about what all MMS's chlorine dioxide does, and how.

That would be great. Anecdotal testimonies from users are great, and I am one of those who has had great success similar to what kevlor has indicated. After initial detox from a more aggressive MMS protocol, supported by the introduction of organic minerals and raw fruits and vegetables, I now use MMS as maintenance to daily detox from the daily introduced toxins we cannot avoid, with a mere few drops.

Once the body has eradicated and been cleansed from pathogens, as well as the storage of toxins in the intestinal wall, the liver, kidney and cells, and the ability to absorb nutrients returns, then the immune system can do the job it is designed to do.

Once we consciously, as maintenance, avoid the introduction of toxins and introduce the necessary organic minerals and vitamins in such a way that they can be absorbed, I can concur that I have not even had so much as a cold in the last 6 years since I did my initial MMS cleanse.

Some of those who shout out about adverse reactions are eliminating toxins too quickly, or are so down the path of toxicity, that any MMS protocol seems too evasive. I'm not suggesting that all of our physiology is the same and one size fits all, but continued research on how MMS works and what protocols to use to support a massive detox, to restore balanced homeostasis, is definitely in order.

[kevlor]

hi GRIPREAPER, we are obviously in a relatively small, but fast growing club, of people who have discovered the ongoing benefits of MMS.

i could write volumes about the underreported everyday benefitis that the maintainance dose (3 drops) affords a person.

like you, the common cold has been elimated. i have gone so far as to even expose myself to colds, viruses, even the H1N1 of several years back, to convince myself and friends of my obvious strong immunity to same.

my biggest regret is, my inability to influence others to - give it a go.
it seems "too simple" "cant possibly be that good" "how come its so cheap?" or just plain disinterest, at their unknown loss.

i must confess to being a renegade, in so much that i do not have the perfect diet, am not vegetarian, and continue to abuse my body with ordinary fare. funny thing is, i seem to be getting away with it. i am absolutely blown away how resilient the human body is, when it has been given the chance to look after itself. if people are reading that i am being contradictory here, then no, i dont think so, because all MMS mainly does is add more oxygen to the blood stream, and its your immune system, thus fortified, doing the work.

there are many other way to add oxygen to the blood system. some are expensive, invasive, way to strong, some with known side effects, but from my understanding MMS is very tame compared to the others, but yet affords the desired benefits.

i have had a personal reason to study quite a bit about alternative medicines over the last fourteen years. my conclusion is -- i will stick to MMS.
... kev

[Alan]

Here's a very interesting update about MMS versus CDS that I got in my inbox:

Understanding the differences between MMS1 drops, CDS and CDH
Technical update newsletter

The difference between MMS drops activated, (MMS1) and CDS and CDH is important to know especially when you are fighting a life threatening disease. Jim and I want to give the world the best information we can to get the best results when it comes to “restoring health”. It has been three years since we started using CDS and in that time we have seen many people’s health restored using this formula. We have only been using CDH for a little over a year and teaching the process of how to make it in our Genesis II Seminars worldwide. Both CDS and CDH have their place and we continue to use them both in our protocols however, after extensive use with all three forms of MMS, and gathering feedback from people firsthand in several countries who have or are using the various forms of MMS, and then after further testing, we now want to share with you the following important conclusions:

Jim has been telling me for some time now to stick with using the activated drops, (MMS1), especially when dealing with people with severe or life threatening diseases. He always thought the results to be quicker and more complete with the drops. Even though we have seen many people have “good” results using the CDS or CDH, we have noticed that many using CDS and CDH had been increasing the dosage a lot with some even doing 30 cc’s (or mls) a day! We have noticed that when using CDS or CDH sometimes extra cc’s above that recommended by the written protocol is required.

Months ago Jim found that when he added a certain amount of extra HCl to a dose of MMS1, simulating stomach acid, the strength of the chlorine dioxide increased 10 times! In other words, the 25 ppm of chlorine dioxide increased to 250 ppm when the amount of stomach acid was added. This is a very significant finding because now we know that the small doses of MMS that we have been taking all along often turn into quite large doses in the stomach and is probably one of the reasons why the classic MMS drops often seem to get really good results.

Jim decided to test the CDS by adding some carefully simulated stomach acid to a dose of CDS the same as that which was added to the MMS. He found another amazing discovery which especially explains so much to me. What Jim observed was that when he added the stomach acid (that’s a certain strength of hydrochloric acid, which is what is normally produced in the stomach) to the CDS, it almost instantly neutralized the CDS. In other words the chlorine dioxide in the CDS was almost immediately destroyed preventing it from benefitting the body.

Now, what does that tell us about CDS being ingested in the body? When CDS is introduced into the stomach through the mouth, and the average amount of stomach acid or more is present, the CDS (chlorine dioxide in solution) is destroyed! This explains to me why we had to “ramp” up the doses for the members at the different Health Restoration Centers to get results or to overcome the little stomach acid most people have these days. The advantage of the CDS not having a really bad taste was being outweighed by the destruction of CDS in the stomach.

Jim went on to test CDH in the same way he tested CDS. He found the same results! When he added stomach acid to the CDH in a dose of CDH, the CDH (chlorine dioxide holding) was destroyed in seconds! So now, we have CDS and CDH being neutralized almost immediately when reaching the average amount of acid found in the stomach, but MMS drops activated (that’s MMS1), are getting up to 10 times stronger and they never get weaker under the same condition.

The big question then is—why did many get “good” results when taking high doses of CDS or CDH? There are a couple of answers, some of these people probably had less than the average amount of stomach acid (not uncommon in today’s world), or secondly, they added enough extra CDS or CDH to outweigh the stomach acid that was present. The people who have little acid available for digestion were getting results because the chlorine dioxide was “getting through” into the intestine and into the blood. They still had to “ramp” up the doses considerably.

Let me give you a couple of practical examples of CDS verses the activated drops:

1. A man at our recent seminar had been taking 1-3ml of CDS for four months and couldn’t get rid of his continuous cold like symptoms. He also said he really didn’t see concrete results when doing the Protocol 1000 with CDS. While at the seminar for the first time he took a standard 3-drop dose of MMS1 and then immediately began to see improvement. We are hearing this more and more.

2. Kerri Rivera, who deals with thousands of Autistic children worldwide had “no recoveries” when she switched from using activated drops to CDS but, when she changed back to the original activated drops she again started seeing “recoveries” from the symptoms of Autism.

Notes:

1 Jim has also tested the MMS tablets to see if they keep the same ppm when the stomach acid is added to the 3-drop dose, and is seems that there is no change in the strength of the pills.

The inventor of CDH has now changed the CDH formula to help it get a similar increasing results from stomach acid. The new formula may make it more useful in different uses on or to the body. No new tests have been done at this time to determine added usefulness of the new CDH, but such tests are planned for the immediate future.

1 Scott McRae is the inventor of CDH and he has posted the new formula at: http://www.mmsinfo.org/ (under "INFO Sheets") and Scott’s Website at http://www.cdhinfo.org/

Note: If you have a life-threatening disease ONLY use the activated drops, (MMS1), to make sure you are getting the best potency.

1 Around the world, thousands of people are still using the old formula for CDH, so if you know of anyone doing so, please pass this new information on to them.

We have come to the conclusion that taking MMS drops orally is usually better, except on those occasions where someone still needs to use CDS for a few days to adjust to the taste or in the case where someone may be so sensitive to MMS and CDS is good to help them adjust overall to taking chlorine dioxide into their body. But, with the addition of HCl as an activator the taste is smoother than Citric Acid as well as the bad reactions to citric acid being introduced into the stomach are gone as well.

REMEMBER: All these following protocols can be also made with activated MMS drops, (MMS1).

We do recommend CDS and CDH for the following protocols:

Note: These are protocols that don’t involve chlorine dioxide coming in contact with stomach acid.

• Applications such as:

- Eye, ear and nose Protocols
- Bath Protocols
- Skin Protocols
- Mouth Protocols
- Douche Protocol
- Enema Protocol
- Protocol 3000
- Any other protocols that do not involve entering the stomach
- Use as mentioned above where someone still needs to adjust to the taste or when someone is super sensitive to MMS and needs to start out with the purest chlorine dioxide possible

The very best way to learn the Genesis II Church Sacramental Protocols is to attend one of our worldwide seminars or take an online video course. Both options can be seen at: genesis2church.is website.

We hope this has helped everyone understand the need to use the activated drops, MMS1, whenever possible when ingesting the protocols to achieve the best results. Let’s see many more worldwide with their “health restored” and maintained throughout their lives.

We are trying to show thorough information about how our MMS works and report to you our findings after many travels, and corresponding with people all around the world. We encourage people to be responsible for their own health to listen to their body and do as they feel led in deciding what course of action to take thus we would never discourage anyone in using CDS and CDH if they feel it’s needed. It is our intention only to show you what is the very best way to go at all times.

We are changing the world by the 1000’s

Archbishop Mark S. Grenon
Approved by Archbishop Jim Humble

[ThePythonicCow]

.
Chlorine Dioxide has seen renewed interest here on the Avalon Forum, and elsewhere.

It seems to be an excellent treatment for covid, the virus and/or spike protein that has been a major concern around the world, since early 2020.

See for example these posts:


MMS question: Post #7 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110808-MMS-question&p=1448127&viewfull=1#post1448127)
]MMS question: Post #9 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110808-MMS-question&p=1449187&viewfull=1#post1449187)
Covid-19 Treatment and Prevention: Post #444 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109824-Covid-19-Treatment-and-Prevention&p=1420224&viewfull=1#post1420224)
Covid-19 Treatment and Prevention: Post #573 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109824-Covid-19-Treatment-and-Prevention&p=1449131&viewfull=1#post1449131)

See the last post above, here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109824-Covid-19-Treatment-and-Prevention&p=1449131&viewfull=1#post1449131), for a link to a rather geeky article explaining the possible mechanism that chlorine dioxide uses, to so effectively target small viral, bacterial (and spike protein) pathogens, with no adverse side effects or toxic residues.

Thanks to the continued success that others report with chlorine dioxide, and thanks to this explanation of how chlorine dioxide works, I now suspect that chlorine dioxide is the premier prophylactic and therapeutic remedy for both the covid viral illness, and the spike proteins created by the vaccines and then shed onto others close to the vaccinated.

I see that earlier posts in this thread from several years ago that explain various methods to generate chlorine dioxide (MMS) have had all the Youtube videos they refer to taken down.

I also see that the method I outline in Post #44 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35807-MMS-tasteless-and-odourless.-the-new-CDS--chlorine-dioxide-solution-&p=893651&viewfull=1#post893651), above is out of date. I am working now on a refined method to produce chlorine dioxide gas, dissolved in water, in bulk. The biggest problem I had with my prior method was keeping the tubing connections from leaking.

I was using silicon tubes, because I was confident that they would not react with the chlorine dioxide gas, but silicon materials don't stick to any of the cements or caulks I could find. So I am currently ordering PVC tubing and JB Weld MarineWeld Epoxy (the tubes, not the syringes, as they have different chemistry and the tubes might provide a more chemically resistant result). My brief research convinced me that PVC (polyvinyl chloride) does not significantly react with chlorine dioxide gas.

I expect to continue to use the baby bottles, as they still seem well suited to this application. Hopefully I will get around to posting more details, once I have all the parts and have refined the process.

My usage pattern is to make perhaps a quart of 3000 ppm chlorine dioxide solution (CDS) and store it in my refrigerator, in small dark brown glass bottles with tops that I have found to remain tight. CDS seems to store for a year or two at a time this way, while retaining a useful potency. Then whenever I have a use for it, it's readily available, pre-made.

For example, I got a wasp sting on a finger a couple years ago, and within a couple of minutes had my finger soaking in a small glass of CDS. A couple of hours later I literally could no longer figure out which finger had been stung -- it was one of a couple of the fingers on my left hand, but I was no longer sure which one and the wound was 100% cured.

[ThePythonicCow]

By the way, I happened upon this good documentary, of the history and success of MMS and CDS, in my travels earlier today:


The Universal Antidote (https://rumble.com/vdey7t-the-universal-antidote.html)


===

P.S. -- Now, as I close some browser tabs, I realize that the reason I happened upon this documentary was because it had already been posted, at least twice, here on Avalon, by each of:


Frankie Pancakes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110808-MMS-question&p=1448736&viewfull=1#post1448736)
Gwin Ru (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109824-Covid-19-Treatment-and-Prevention&p=1446143&viewfull=1#post1446143)

[Delight]

IF YOU HAVE TAKEN THE JAB, THIS IS GREAT NEWS‼️

Proof that chlorine dioxide aqueous solution can inactivate the binding of the variant spike proteins to the human ACE2 receptor protein.

This means that if you have had the VAX and you need to get rid of the spike proteins chlorine dioxide can do it.

If you want to learn more on Chlorine dioxide (CDS), ie. how to make it, how to take it, different protocols etc go to Dr Andreas Kalcker’s website:

https://andreaskalcker.com/en/

https://t.me/LauraAbolichannel

telegram link to recent webinar with Andreas Kalcker

https://t.me/ChlorineDioxideTestimonies/112607


Bio-Physicist Dr Andreas Kalcker joins me to discuss Chlorine Dioxide, the substance he's spent the last 14 years of his life studying, whats been called the Universal Antidote.
Published February 16, 2022

Dr Kalcker invented Chlorine Dioxide Solution (CDS), a gas which is an incredible substance healing people from all kinds of ailments the world over.

As you can imagine the mainstream media have vilified Chlorine Dioxide, falsely calling it bleach in an attempt to scare people away from its use, because it's incredibly cheap to make and available everywhere.

If you search for Dr Kalcker on YouTube you will find almost nothing as Google have either censored or defamed him.

As a back-up I have also uploaded BitChute, links below:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Qec9AOkNbVVW/

It was a privilege to be able to chat to Andreas as we discussed some important topics. I hope it's as useful to you as it was to me.

Andreas' Links.
www.andreaskalcker.com

Subscribe on YouTube
www.youtube.com/c/LaurenceEaseman

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[norman]

Chlorine Dioxide: The Truth Buried by Lies, Condemnation, and Censorship (https://podbay.fm/p/finding-genius-podcast/e/1614654186)

SHOW NOTES
Imagine being given two options: lose your license to practice medicine, or keep quiet about a substance that you know has revolutionary therapeutic applications.

You might think no doctor would ever find themselves in such a position. Think again.

And press play to learn:

How chlorine dioxide is able to kill pathogens, but not biological tissues
How chlorine dioxide and its use as a therapy for some illnesses was discovered
Why you won’t find the information in this podcast anywhere else, unless you dig really deep
Ken McCarthy, a pioneer in the movement to commercialize the internet, a wealth of knowledge on internet advertising and marketing, and former student of neuroscience at Princeton University, presents a compelling argument for the safe and effective use of chlorine dioxide as a therapeutic for a range of illnesses.

If he’s right, why don’t you know about it? Or maybe what you do know about it is that it's a dangerous toxin, not to be touched.

McCarthy begins with some indisputable facts:

1) Chlorine dioxide is an FDA-approved Class II food additive

2) The EPA has approved the use of chlorine dioxide as a water purifier

3) Chlorine dioxide was used during the 2001 anthrax attacks to clear the Capitol Building of any anthrax remnants

4) Chlorine dioxide is used as a sterilization substance in the treatment of Ebola

5) The administration of trace amounts of chlorine dioxide is part of some protocols for the treatment of children with autism

6) Chlorine dioxide can kill coronaviruses

McCarthy also offers an impressive and surprising amount of anecdotal evidence in support of the argument that chlorine dioxide is an effective therapy.

He names specific people who have written articles or news stories that contain misinformation or flat-out lies about chlorine dioxide, and explains what motivates the powers that be to conceal the truth from the public.

Could it have something to do with the fact that one therapeutic dose of chlorine dioxide costs less than a penny? And that, given its true potential as a treatment for a range of common ailments, Big Pharma might not like this?

McCarthy seems to think so, and by the end of the podcast, you probably will too.

Press play to learn more. Episode also available on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/30PvU9C

[Trisher]

I found this article from 2016 on the strength of MMS compared to CDS. CDS may be weaker but more can easily be taken when needed. MMs tastes awful. CDS is ok.

https://mmsinfo.org/infosheets/MMS1_&_CDS_Compared_in_Artificial_Stomach_Acid.pdf

This simple test proves that 1ml of 3000 ppm CDS
is not equal to an ingested 3 drop MMS1 dose.
2.2ml of 3000 ppm CDS provides the same
amount of CLO2 as an ingested 1 drop dose of
MMS1. The test also shows that stomach acid
does not affect CDS as was previously thought.

[grapevine]

The original MMS burned several holes in my cotton T-shirt before I could use it. I put it back in the cupboard . . . .

[Hip Hipnotist]

"The original MMS burned several holes in my cotton T-shirt before I could use it. I put it back in the cupboard . . . ."

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Always a sucker for a good challenge I'm currently sitting here at my desk wearing a cotton "Let's Go Brandon" T-shirt ( seriously ) and several areas near the bottom soaked with MMS. MMS undiluted, diluted, and mixed with citric acid. And one hour later ( I gave it plenty of time to spontaneous combust ) all I have is a "Let's Go Brandon" t-shirt that smells like bleach. I guess it could smell a lot worse if you catch my drift. ;-))

So I'm gonna have to relegate this MMS myth to my conspiracy theory debunked files.

As a 'serious' side note I've been taking MMS ( when needed ) for longer than I can remember. It truly is, 'Miracle' Mineral Solution.

[grapevine]

"The original MMS burned several holes in my cotton T-shirt before I could use it. I put it back in the cupboard . . . ."

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Always a sucker for a good challenge I'm currently sitting here at my desk wearing a cotton "Let's Go Brandon" T-shirt ( seriously ) and several areas near the bottom soaked with MMS. MMS undiluted, diluted, and mixed with citric acid. And one hour later ( I gave it plenty of time to spontaneous combust ) all I have is a "Let's Go Brandon" t-shirt that smells like bleach. I guess it could smell a lot worse if you catch my drift. ;-))

So I'm gonna have to relegate this MMS myth to my conspiracy theory debunked files.

As a 'serious' side note I've been taking MMS ( when needed ) for longer than I can remember. It truly is, 'Miracle' Mineral Solution.

Don't know you well enough to be affronted that you doubt my story but I can assure you, hand on heart, that the above experience with MMS stopped me from taking it. I have absolutely no reason to lie. But I'm mystified; why would you swallow something that smells like bleach? FGS be careful!

[Bill Ryan]

The original MMS burned several holes in my cotton T-shirt before I could use it. I put it back in the cupboard . . . .

That suggests it was undiluted. (Or maybe not even activated?)

When activated and well-diluted (as it should always be!) then it can sometimes work miracles. (And I do use that word knowing what it means :) )

[Hip Hipnotist]

"The original MMS burned several holes in my cotton T-shirt before I could use it. I put it back in the cupboard . . . ."

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Always a sucker for a good challenge I'm currently sitting here at my desk wearing a cotton "Let's Go Brandon" T-shirt ( seriously ) and several areas near the bottom soaked with MMS. MMS undiluted, diluted, and mixed with citric acid. And one hour later ( I gave it plenty of time to spontaneous combust ) all I have is a "Let's Go Brandon" t-shirt that smells like bleach. I guess it could smell a lot worse if you catch my drift. ;-))

So I'm gonna have to relegate this MMS myth to my conspiracy theory debunked files.

As a 'serious' side note I've been taking MMS ( when needed ) for longer than I can remember. It truly is, 'Miracle' Mineral Solution.

Don't know you well enough to be affronted that you doubt my story but I can assure you, hand on heart, that the above experience with MMS stopped me from taking it. I have absolutely no reason to lie. But I'm mystified; why would you swallow something that smells like bleach? FGS be careful!

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"Why would I swallow something that smells like bleach"?

I forgot to mention MMS not only smells like bleach it tastes like bleach! Now that should really mystify you!

I don't actually know what bleach tastes like 'cause I've never had a hankering to try it. But to answer your question -- the smell doesn't bother me. Even if it did, knowing the benefits of MMS regardless of the smell (or taste) I'll continue taking it until some other 'miracle concoction' comes along that not only does as good a job at 'curing stuff' but perhaps, just perhaps smells like roses instead of bleach!

So until then I'll just keep on keepin' on. :waving:

Oh, and don't be too 'mystified'. Lot's of folks eat fish even though it smells like fish. I could go on and on however it's gettin' late and I've gotta take my daily dose of MMS ( as a preventative ) and feed the cat. :cat:

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/BureaNorea/status/1665852528636964865

1665852528636964865

[Innocent Warrior]

Hi, a note about MMS and hard water. Our tap water here is hard, to the degree that the mesh on the spout of a new electric jug is disintegrated in a couple of weeks and water stains the sink with every use and rapidly builds up.

Filtering our water helped a little but the problem was completely resolved once we treated our water with MMS before filtering. Just purify your water with MMS (one activated drop per four litres/one gallon of tap water) and then into you filter of choice (we just use a Brita jug), which gets rid of any MMS taste and you have notably soft and nice tasting water. It goes a very long way, a very affordable and highly effective option.

[RunningDeer]

Critically Thinking with Dr. P and Dr. Madej Episode 162 - Sept 28 2023




Dr. Madej: “I can't stress enough that this is one of most important things that people have in their home right now.”

“We’re not supposed to say it cures anything right? But since they use it for water treatment and we water, it does work on us. And there's been decades of information about it, decades of data of malaria, any infection you can think of including “Covid syndrome”, including different people have further stories.

People with cancers have improved, and that isn't surprising because every cancer has a primary infection behind it. And why does that person if they have a cancer of a primary infection that's behind it?Because their body wasn't able to process and clear out the infection. So there's going to be a poison to and something that suppress the immune system with it. So every cancer has a primary infection and also something that suppress the immune system…”


Telegram: Andreas Kalcker Protocols (https://t.me/AndreasKalckerProtocols)
TheUniversalAntidote.com (https://theuniversalantidote.com)


Source (https://rumble.com/embed/v3j9upa/?pub=8y5b7)

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[RunningDeer]

By the way, I happened upon this good documentary, of the history and success of MMS and CDS, in my travels earlier today:


The Universal Antidote (https://rumble.com/vdey7t-the-universal-antidote.html)


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P.S. -- Now, as I close some browser tabs, I realize that the reason I happened upon this documentary was because it had already been posted, at least twice, here on Avalon, by each of:


Frankie Pancakes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110808-MMS-question&p=1448736&viewfull=1#post1448736)
Gwin Ru (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109824-Covid-19-Treatment-and-Prevention&p=1446143&viewfull=1#post1446143)



The Universal Antidote: The Science and Story of Chlorine Dioxide





Source found @ TheUniversalAntidote.com (https://theuniversalantidote.com/)
Source (https://rumble.com/embed/vass15/?pub=f7n61#?secret=r9G4y0P1gf)

vass15

[ThePythonicCow]

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After spending years trying to refine a complex system of pumps, tubes, bottles and exhaust fumes to make chlorine dioxide (which ended up exploding on me when a tube kinked), I switched to a method based on what Andreas Kalcker recommends in Forbidden Health, for making bulk chlorine dioxide solution (CDS).

That is working far better ... cheap, easy and safe. Even my son found he could easily enough make batches, with just 10 or 20 minutes on the initial round, learning how to do it.

Here are the best combinations of bottle and shot glass that I've found, along with the appropriate sodium chlorite flakes and acid powder, and Kalcker's awesome book:


Glass Jar, $10.89: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07X2Z1F6B
Shot glass, $5.99: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B2DCJJHZ
Boston Brown glass bottles, $15.99: https://www.amazon.com/Bottle-Reusable-Labels-Refillable-Bottles/dp/B019J2L3V4
Sodium Chlorite, $46.87: https://www.amazon.com/Stellar-Chemical-Sodium-Chlorite-Flakes/dp/B08K9FN5JC
Citric Acid, $16.99: https://www.amazon.com/Milliard-Citric-Acid-Pound-VERIFIED/dp/B00EYFKM32
Andreas Kalcker "Forbidden Health", $26.20: https://www.narayana-verlag.com/Forbidden-Health-English-version-Andreas-Ludwig-Kalcker/b29116


One time, with a magic marker, draw a black line around the outside of the jar, 1.8 inches (46 mm) above bottom outside surface. Check that one can (1) add water to the jar up to that line, and then (2) place the empty shot glass inside the jar, without the shot glass floating. Then put a piece of cellophane tape all the way around the jar, over the black line, so that it doesn't get rubbed off with use.

Then follow the following instructions to make each batch of CDS:


Add distilled water to jar, up to line
Add 2 tsp sodium chlorite flakes to shot glass
Add 2 tsp citric acid powder to shot glass
Carefully put shot glass inside jar
Measure 2 Tablespoon water into measuring cup
Add water from cup to shot glass and close jar lid
Put jar inside cabinet and wait a day (or more)
Remove jar from cabinet (keep level)
Remove shot glass carefully from jar.
Discard shot glass contents (liquid, and maybe salt)
Pour brown CDS liquid from jar into a large measuring cup.
Pour CDS from measuring cup into Boston Brown glass bottle, using funnel.
Store CDS in refrigerator, inside that bottle

As soon as you add the 2 tablespoons of water, in step (6) above, the reaction will start, generating chlorine dioxide gas. So close that jar's lid right away after adding the water, to trap the gas inside the jar, where it will be absorbed into the distilled water (that's outside the shot glass), over the coming hours and day(s).

The liquid that ends up in the jar will be pure CDS, while the liquid (and perhaps salt) that is left in the shot glass will have whatever other impurities were in the original 80% sodium chlorite flakes. So don't let the liquid left in the shot glass mix with the main CDS liquid in the bottle.

Nota Bene: The above ingredients, in the proportion given above, probably end up making a CDS that is more concentrated than the "standard" 3000 parts per million (PPM) that Kalcker uses in his book.

Measuring CDS concentration using test strips is not very precise, but I am getting perhaps 4000 or 5000 PPM, not just 3000 PPM. I've been using MMS and CDS in various ways for over a decade, so I've adapted the amounts I use to suit my particular uses ... but go easy on dosing when first working with this CDS -- it is likely a bit "extra strength." You might want to start with 1, not 2, teaspoons each of sodium chlorite powder and corresponding citric acid powder. You can replace the citric acid powder with malic acid powder or similar ... the choice of mild acid powder makes little difference.

Be careful with the sodium chlorite flakes. They are toxic, irritating and while they don't burn themselves, they do release a lot of oxygen when heated by other flame sources, greatly accelerating fires and making typical fire fighting measures (using water, fire extinguishers or blankets to deprive the fire of oxygen) much less useful. Treat your flakes with care and keep their container closed except when removing one dose for the above. I keep my active working supply of these flakes in the following jar:


https://sodiumchloriteshop.com/citric-acid, $24.95, which holds up to 16 ounces of flakes.

I pour the freshly made CDS into a large measuring cup first, and from there into a Boston Brown glass jar, because pouring liquid out of the glass jar I recommend above is a messy proposition - that jar lacks any sort of sensible pour spout.

I keep these instructions, Andreas Kalcker's Forbidden Health book, and the above materials on hand, for the day when I might find CDS to be useful, whether for water purification or other such uses such as considered in Kalcker's book.

[ThePythonicCow]

I found this article from 2016 on the strength of MMS compared to CDS. CDS may be weaker but more can easily be taken when needed. MMs tastes awful. CDS is ok.
When taking CDS orally, I put it in a glass of apple juice.

Other fruit juices, which have more Vitamin C in them or which are more acidic, apparently neutralize (render useless) CDS.

But CDS survives it's journey to one's innards when carried along by apple juice just fine ... and tastes better to my tongue than when taken in other ways

[RunningDeer]

Resource link posted in “The Solution: Overcoming Disease,” by Jim Humble


Chlorine Dioxide Testimonials (https://mmstestimonials.co/) (“Formerly known as MMS Testimonials”)

The site includes sub-sections:




Categorized Testimonials (https://mmstestimonials.co/) (approximately 140 categories which some include multiple entries)
Tags (https://mmstestimonials.co/tags) (key words)
Videos (https://mmstestimonials.co/videos)
Submit Testimonial (https://mmstestimonials.co/submit-new)
The Chlorine Dioxide Forum (https://mmsforum.io/)





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While I’m here...Bill, thank you for correcting my spelling error of Andreas Kalcker. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/flirty-hearts.gif
(in both posts)

[RunningDeer]

I found this article from 2016 on the strength of MMS compared to CDS. CDS may be weaker but more can easily be taken when needed. MMs tastes awful. CDS is ok.
When taking CDS orally, I put it in a glass of apple juice.

Other fruit juices, which have more Vitamin C in them or which are more acidic, apparently neutralize (render useless) CDS.

But CDS survives it's journey to one's innards when carried along by apple juice just fine ... and tastes better to my tongue than when taken in other ways

Dr. Lee Merritt explained that you can take MMS without the activator. Earlier today, I tried it and had no ill effects with three drops in 2 oz. of distilled water. (no smell and no taste)



"For a lot of people, you don’t have to mix the two if they have normal stomach acid. Just take the MMS because your stomach is the activator. And it doesn't taste like a swimming pool especially when you get higher in the drops. But you have to mix them for a bath."




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Some rough notes & not in chronological order from "Dr. 'Lee Merritt' | 'Parasite' Protocol, 'Chlorine Dioxide' Medicine”:




Dr. Merritt worked up to 10 drops a day and then stopped the protocol and went on to something else. She decided to return to the protocol and picked up where she left off @ 10 drops a day. She was puking and had diarrhea.

She sleeps and dreams better.



From the Q&A segment towards the last third of the show:




RE: A woman has problems with allergic reactions.

Have you tried chlorine dioxide? It help get toxins out without causing a reaction if you can go very slow and small.

We have a we have a weird belief that we've accepted in modern medicine and that is I have to make a precise diagnosis of treatment. That’s not what ancient medicine It was about purification, i.e. “get right with God” and detoxification. Get rid of the toxins.

First, the body will self correct itself if we take care of certain problems. it's the first thing I would say is make sure you know the essential nutrients. I used to take pills now I use the liquid stuff that I have on my site and I mix them together because you can't give yourself 90 pills.

One of the reasons that people have these kind of weird reactions is they're missing something. How many diabetics are missing chromium? A lot of diabetic so we need to make sure that you got all that on board that you're actually covering your nutritional deficiencies.

Second thing is I would do the chlorine dioxide very, very slowly to start like one drop a day for a week. If you don't have any problems maybe go up to two drops a day.

What that will do is get out heavy metals. It'll get out the other to that are gonna stimulate things. You’re a person that has a high allergic kind of stuff going on probably because you're riddled with toxins and parasites.

Get yourself a good supplement that you're on for at least a month and so the nutritional deficiencies are accommodated. Then I would go on the chlorine dioxide. I just start real slow and when you get up to maybe five or six drops a day.

So just start very small and then move up. That's what I would do and I would keep your cycle short. I would just take a very small dose and I would start and give yourself all three days of a small dose and then see what happens and then five days after that do it again.

We’ve been giving fatalistic ideas about our body and our body. Like the air pilot, sometimes you just gotta take your hands off and let the plane self-correct. The human body is the same. You just have to take away the impediment, so do chlorine dioxide slowly.

Dr. Merritt recommends a parasite rotation protocol with such products as Ivermectin, Fenbendazole (benzimidazole anthelmintic) and MMS because there are different parasite treatments for specific parasites. (IIRC There was one more example mentioned.)

Dr. Lee Merritt DOES NOT recommend medicines that you pour on. For instance, pour on the skin of a hog because the medical complex adds other things to make it go through the hogs thick hide. Also do not purchase a knock off brand from China. Amazon or a tractor supply store provides these animal meds.

Fenbendazole is a broad spectrum benzimidazole anthelmintic used against gastrointestinal parasites including: giardia, roundworms, hookworms, whipworms, the tapeworm and pinworms.



"Dr. 'Lee Merritt' | 'Parasite' Protocol, 'Chlorine Dioxide' Medicine”




source (https://rumble.com/embed/v2vsw78/?pub=8y5b7)


v2vsw78

[RunningDeer]

Overcoming the TASTE of MMS
From: MMS4HEALTH (https://mms4health.wordpress.com/introduction-to-mms-2/overcoming-the-taste-of-mms/)



There are so many people who develop a terrible aversion to the taste and smell of MMS (including me). I have worked to find several methods of overcoming the problem.

There have been literally hundreds of people, if not thousands of them that have started out by saying “Oh, I don’t mind the taste of MMS all that much,” and then several weeks later they feel sick when they merely think or talk about MMS.

I believe that the aversion, the revulsion, is caused by a survival reaction of the many microorganisms in the systems that are being killed. It seems reasonable that their revulsion to being killed is a survival mechanism that is passed on to their host as revulsion for the same thing. Of course, if their host has enough revulsion that he stops taking the remedy, the microorganisms will survive. Maybe that’s not the case, but the fact is, as one cleans out his system the heaviest part of the revulsion goes away. I believe that one should not allow himself to reach that level of revulsion that the mere idea makes him sick as he might not be willing to do the whole job.

So here is one way to avoid the aversion. Follow the idea carefully because if you miss a point of two it won’t work. You need a heavy kind of juice. Buy a concentrated juice (apple, cranberry, grape, or pineapple) and then when adding water back, don’t add the full amount so that the juice is extra heavy. If you can’t find a concentrated juice without added vitamin C, then just use the juice that tastes the strongest to you (that doesn’t have added vitamin C).

Step 1. Pour out about 1/2 glass of juice that you will be using for your dose, what ever it is. If it is a heavy dose you may want more than 1/2 glass of juice. To this juice add two teaspoonfuls of the 10% citric acid solution. (You may be able to avoid this step if you follow the other steps closely.)

Step 2. To a second glass pour in some of the same juice. This juice will be pure and clean with no MMS. This will be the wash-down, and it is important that you use the same juice for the wash down. You probably won’t need as much as 1/2 glass. I’d say 1/4 glass or less would do.


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Also on the same site are different protocols. I’ll add the basic one (https://mms4health.wordpress.com/protocols/basic-protocol/) here:


Basic Protocol

To activate MMS1 add 1 drop (Activator) 50% Citric Acid (included with purchase) for every drop of MMS1. (ie. 2 drops MMS  = 2 drops 50% Citric Acid: 5 drops MMS = 5 drops 50% Citric Acid)

IMPORTANT: Mix in a dry empty dry glass and wait at least 20 seconds, then add 1/3 to 2/3 of a glass of water.

1. Protocol indicates you should start with one drop, once a day. Never start with more than one or two drops. People who are very sick and/or sensitive should start with 1 drop. Activate the drops as given above.


2. If you feel OK and do not experience nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea then reduce the amount of MMS for the next dose. Take two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening, and they should be taken no less than 2 hours after a meal. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose, following the same steps as before. When you experience nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or in the case of bad diarrhea, reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous.




Note: If you experience diarrhea or even vomiting that is not a bad sign. The body is simply throwing off poisons and cleaning itself out. Everyone says that they feel much better after the diarrhea. You do not have to take any medicine for the diarrhea. It will go away as fast as it came. It will not last, as it is not real diarrhea, but the body cleaning itself out and it is not caused by bacteria or viruses. When the poison is gone, the diarrhea is gone.


3. Continue to follow the procedure given in 2 above, until you reach 15 drops twice a day without nausea. At this point increase to 3 times a day. Stay at 3 times a day for at least one week and then reduce the drops to 4 to 6 drops a day for older people and 4 to 6 drops twice a week for younger people.


For Children: The protocol for children is essentially the same. Starting at 1/2 a drop, and to do this make a drink with one drop and pour out 1/2 of the drink before giving it to the child. Then increase from 1 to 2 to 3 drops as given above, but do not go beyond 3 drops for each 11.5 kg of body weight. With a baby start with 1/2 a drop and increase to one drop. Increase to a drop, then up to 2 drops, but no more. So if you give 1/2 a drop in the morning, wait until the afternoon before increasing to 1 drop, and then wait until the next morning before increasing to 2 drops. If the baby or child should become nauseous, wait an extra hour or two before giving a smaller dose. Give smaller doses until the baby or child can tolerate more, but do not stop giving doses. If problems persist, please consult a licensed healthcare professional.

Note: Base your diet on good nutrition. Your body will then be able to easily absorb vitamins and minerals and many other nutrients it might have been missing up to this time. You should feel better as time goes by.

Some basic RULES:

1. Keep the bottle of MMS out of sunlight and sealed tightly. (Preferably store in a dark cupboard.)
2. Follow the proper protocol, starting with 1-2 drops to begin with.
 
Do not drink MMS with any orange juice or any juice that is enriched with Vitamin C as Vitamin C will naturalize the MMS and render it ineffective.  Also do not take any Vitamin C at least one hour before or after consuming MMS.

[ThePythonicCow]

While searching on Telegram for something else, I found this explanation of how chlorine dioxide works, buried in a longer post, https://t.me/theuniversalantidote/1328, made on a March 2023 on "The Universal Antidote Videos" Telegram channel:


You asked: "How does the chlorine dioxide know what bacteria is good or bad in your eyes?"

Each organism has some capability to reduce oxidizers. As a rule, the larger, the organism, the greater the capability to reduce oxidizers. most anaerobic bacteria do not have a way to neutralize oxidizers, and so they are very susceptible to destruction by them. Also, these anaerobic bacteria produce acids. Chlorine Dioxide comes into contact with an acid, singlet oxygen is released. The singlet oxygen destroys the bacteria, and the human bodies redox system reduces the singlet oxygen.

It's the clearest, succinct but still accurate, explanation that I've seen.

[ThePythonicCow]

I keep these instructions, Andreas Kalcker's Forbidden Health book, and the above materials on hand, for the day when I might find CDS to be useful, whether for water purification or other such uses such as considered in Kalcker's book.
That's not quite true.

I make this stuff regularly, and keep two 16 oz Boston Brown glass bottles of CDS in my refrigerator at all times, one bottle with an added splash of DMSO, and one just pure CDS.

Once one gets this setup going and has done it a couple of times, it's quite easy, at least for those of us who like to form habitual procedures for the routine tasks of life.

One advantage of CDS, over mixing the two part MMS drops, is that the CDS has a less repulsive taste, to my tongue at least. I find it easy to take with apple juice. I also sprayed it (usually the CDS + DMSO bottle) on a recent skin lesion, soaked a wasp stung finger in it, and swished it around my mouth to treat an abscess.

If kept in a nearly full bottle in a refrigerator, below about 45°F (7°C), it lasts "forever" ... years at least in my experience. But now that I've found so many uses for it, my CDS never lasts anywhere near that long.

[RunningDeer]

While searching on Telegram for something else, I found this explanation of how chlorine dioxide works, buried in a longer post, https://t.me/theuniversalantidote/1328, made on a March 2023 on "The Universal Antidote Videos" Telegram channel:


You asked: "How does the chlorine dioxide know what bacteria is good or bad in your eyes?"

Each organism has some capability to reduce oxidizers. As a rule, the larger, the organism, the greater the capability to reduce oxidizers. most anaerobic bacteria do not have a way to neutralize oxidizers, and so they are very susceptible to destruction by them. Also, these anaerobic bacteria produce acids. Chlorine Dioxide comes into contact with an acid, singlet oxygen is released. The singlet oxygen destroys the bacteria, and the human bodies redox system reduces the singlet oxygen.

It's the clearest, succinct but still accurate, explanation that I've seen.



A teeny bit off the topic of chlorine dioxide, but informative on the type of bacteria that thrives in a non-oxygen environment. I found it on “How to use your waterpik” @ 15:53 (https://youtu.be/hNCChIWnsoM?si=wNQiNYYXAG8Vhlxv&t=953).




“When the water hits the side of the tooth, it creates that vacuum in the pocket and pulls out plaque, bacteria and food debris. The wand is creating oxygen along with the water spray. And the oxygen when it goes under the gum tissue it's killing bacteria that live without oxygen because there is no oxygen under your gum tissue. Oxygen pumped in so is ultimate killer of bad bacteria.

I use this model (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HBGXJBM?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp&th=1).

Can bacteria survive without oxygen?

Anaerobic bacteria are germs that can survive and grow where there is no oxygen. For example, they can thrive in human tissue that is injured and does not have oxygen-rich blood flowing to it.


How to use your waterpik



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August 15, 2021

This is an in depth description of how to properly use and maintain your waterpik.


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[ThePythonicCow]

I use this model (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HBGXJBM?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp&th=1).
I hope you're not seeing the insidious mold problem reported in this Amazon review (https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RRIFAQMM9QHMN/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B07HBGXJBM).

[RunningDeer]

I keep these instructions, Andreas Kalcker's Forbidden Health book, and the above materials on hand, for the day when I might find CDS to be useful, whether for water purification or other such uses such as considered in Kalcker's book.
That's not quite true.

I make this stuff regularly, and keep two 16 oz Boston Brown glass bottles of CDS in my refrigerator at all times, one bottle with an added splash of DMSO, and one just pure CDS.

Once one gets this setup going and has done it a couple of times, it's quite easy, at least for those of us who like to form habitual procedures for the routine tasks of life.

One advantage of CDS, over mixing the two part MMS drops, is that the CDS has a less repulsive taste, to my tongue at least. I find it easy to take with apple juice. I also sprayed it (usually the CDS + DMSO bottle) on a recent skin lesion, soaked a wasp stung finger in it, and swished it around my mouth to treat an abscess.

If kept in a nearly full bottle in a refrigerator, below about 45°F (7°C), it lasts "forever" ... years at least in my experience. But now that I've found so many uses for it, my CDS never lasts anywhere near that long.



Thanks for the info. I've been making a new MMS batch every three days based on the suggestion from MMS4health.com (https://mms4health.wordpress.com). I'm still looking for a better 2 oz. small glass spray bottle (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XNXY7SR?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details). I also hadn't consider the idea of adding DMSO in it. Though when I use my home-made DMSO eye drops, I smooth the overflow on my face.

I make up a batch of eye drops every 3 months that includes DMSO (https://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Dimethyl-sulfoxide-Pharmaceutical-Heiltropfen/dp/B00ZNV5N8U/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) (Pharmaceutical grade).

2 oz glass bottles (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V73OA6O?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder_k0_1_11&amp=&crid=6O3NCLLTS0MQ&amp=&sprefix=eye+dropper), with glass eye droppers
30-40% DMSO
60-70% distilled water
pinch of salt
2 squirts liquid Vitamin C (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087F3N9HK?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1)
One-two drops twice a day.

[RunningDeer]

I use this model (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HBGXJBM?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp&th=1).
I hope you're not seeing the insidious mold problem reported in this Amazon review (https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RRIFAQMM9QHMN/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B07HBGXJBM).



No problems here. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/noidea.gif I'll keep watch.

I use distilled water. The video goes into how to clean the machine of excess mineral deposits, but no mention of a black mold.

[ThePythonicCow]

No problems here. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/noidea.gif I'll keep watch.


Perhaps add a few MMS or CDS drops if you do see mold ;)

[RunningDeer]

No problems here. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/noidea.gif I'll keep watch.


Perhaps add a few MMS or CDS drops if you do see mold ;)



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[Joey]

in my personal experience, cds is the most awesome and versatile thing one can learn to make and learn to use.
Spray it, swish it in your mouth, drink it, enemas, combine it with dmso for deep internal and external application.
You can use it for cleaning, water purification, it's endless.

If you are dealing with issues, go first to cds and you can go pretty high doses.

[Joey]

I don't know if it's posted yet, but here is a free course which will take you trough from a to z

https://theuniversalantidote.com/the-universal-antidote-course/

[Eva2]

Dr. W. Makis
'NEW ARTICLE: CHLORINE DIOXIDE and CANCER - Most Controversial Alternative Cancer Treatment - Safety and New Research evidence in 8 papers examined

Probably the most controversial article I've written!

Chlorine Dioxide:

- purifies water
- destroys microbes on food
- sterilizes medical equipment
- second strongest disinfectant known after ozone
- rapidly and effectively destroys viruses
- used in 900 water treatment facilities
- estimated 12 million Americans drink Chlorine Dioxide treated water
- cytotoxic against breast and colorectal cancer cells
- prostate cancer responds dramatically with PSA levels droppin
- pancreatic cancer stabilizes on it

I review all the known literature as it pertains to Chlorine Dioxide use in Cancer

I also review the safety and dosing of Chlorine Dioxide.

The "Miracle in Bolivia":

“we can affirm without a doubt…that chlorine dioxide is effective in the treatment of COVID-19, making RT-PCR negative in one hundred percent of cases at 7 days, significantly and rapidly modifying the symptoms of the disease, significantly reducing laboratory parameters to normality within 14 to 21 days.”

But what about Chlorine Dioxide and CANCER?

I review the evidence that exists in the literature and it's very, very interesting!

The science and evidence is slowly growing.

Pancreatic Cancer
Prostate Cancer and PSA levels
Breast Cancer
Colorectal Cancer
Lung Cancer

No, it's not "bleach".
No, it's not "quackery"
Yes, it's SAFE in appropriate doses
Yes, it has no side effects when taken appropriately

“chlorine dioxide possesses anticancer and antiviral activities probably due to its inducing activity of ROS production.”

“Potential benefits of utilizing ClO2 (Chlorine Dioxide) include the destruction of the SARS-CoV-2 virus in the human body, the treatment of COVID-19 symptoms, and prevention of post-acute COVID-19 syndrome, or long-haulers syndrome. With the favorable aforementioned safety profile, it would appear that the benefits of low dose aqueous ClO2 therapy far outweigh the risks.”

Are you ready for the deep dive?

"Backpackers and emergency personnel can use 4 ppm to purify water, 30 ppm (per day) was used safely in two COVID-19 trials and 40 ppm in drinking water showed no toxicity in a subchronic oral toxicity test."

Article Link in photo to avoid shadowban, just re-type the URL in the photo at the top, into your browser to access'

https://twitter.com/makismd/status/1786650963400417677?s=52&t=DNAKZJenL7uPIJC70XGEGQ

[palehorse]

found this video days ago, seems pretty much same protocol that was already posted in this thread, however this video feels easier than the other resources available.

https://cahlen.org/files/videos/2021/12/CahlenLee_20211227_MakingChlorineDioxide/CahlenLee_20211227_MakingChlorineDioxide.mp4

https://cahlen.org/files/videos/2021/12/CahlenLee_20211227_MakingChlorineDioxide/CahlenLee_20211227_MakingChlorineDioxide.mp4

I am willing to give a try, and make my own batch based on this video above, here is the "recipe" in written form from Jim Humble (the source of the video).

https://jimhumble.org/how-to-make-mms (https://jimhumble.org/how-to-make-mms/)

Could anyone please confirm if there is any other more straight forward way to do it?

For my understanding basically I need:


distilled water
sodium chlorite (powder or flakes - commercial ones)
activator acids (vinegar, lemon, citric acid, hydrochloric acid (HCl)) - only one? or combine at what ratio?

and then combine both before use to produce the chlorine dioxide solution.

All the other stuffs required I already have here, I just need to purchase the sodium chlorite and maybe the activator acid, but I have at home Citric Acid Monohydrate wife use in the kitchen for cooking sour food sometimes (just a tiny pinch of it), the bag has not much info but this (C6H10O8), so I had no idea what it actually was and it says it is Galactaric Acid that is where things get complicated for me, I am no good at chemistry, so I have no idea this is the correct acid or not.. I would rather squeeze some lemons before use if possible or even use vinegar, feels more natural for me.

I want to try to kill a fungus, anyone know if works for that? I tried the colloidal silver I made myself, but it is ineffective for the fungus I am dealing with, already tried all the usual garbage they sell in pharmacies, none of it works.

Many Thanks


[update]
I am going through the course @Joey posted above.
https://theuniversalantidote.com/the-universal-antidote-course/
Thanks


I was looking for sodium chlorite online and I found only the liquid form at 25%, so I am giving a try with this one. The HCl I found also in liquid form at 35% so I will have to dilute in distilled water to get the 4% required. I think that is it. I will post again once my experience is done.


Thanks Bill for embedding the video :thumbsup:

[ThePythonicCow]

For my understanding basically I need:


distilled water
sodium chlorite (powder or flakes - commercial ones)
activator acids (vinegar, lemon, citric acid, hydrochloric acid (HCl)) - only one? or combine at what ratio?

and then combine both before use to produce the chlorine dioxide solution.


I have used a variety of methods to make chlorine dioxide solution (CDS, aka MMS). My current favorite is "Andreas Kalcker's Method with Shot Glass Inside Sealed Jar, Called CDS or Chlorine Dioxide Solution", as explained https://www.annmariemichaels.com/how-to-make-pool-water/

I obtain my equipment and ingredients from Amazon:


Stellar Chemical ~ Sodium Chlorite, 80% Flakes, Tech Grade ~ 1 Kg (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08K9FN5JC)
Milliard Citric Acid Powder 5 Pound (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EYFKNL8)
Galashield Glass Jar ~ 500 ml with silicone lined easy seal lid (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X2Z1F6B)
PARACITY Shot Glasses with Heavy Base (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B2DCJJHZ)
8 Pc Nylon & Stainless Steel Deluxe Measuring Spoon Set (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UBC3PO)
16 oz. Amber Boston Round Glass Jars with Black Poly Cone Cap (https://www.amazon.com/Pack-Amber-Boston-Round-Black/dp/B01N9K1GO1/)
DMSO Liquid Concentrate 99% Pure 16 fl. oz. (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001L538IY)
Kyocera Travel Mug with Twist Top, 12oz (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077KYMRKQ)

One time, when I first got the shot glass and glass jar, I marked a line on the glass jar. I put the new empty shot glass inside the jar, and filled up the jar part way, outside the shot glass, so that the water was perhaps 80% up the side of the shot glass sitting still empty within the water. I then removed the shot glass and marked a line all the way around the outside of the glass jar with a magic marker, at the height of the water I could still see inside the jar. I then put a strip of clear tape all the way around the jar, right over that black line, to protect the black line from being rubbed off. That black line tells me how much distilled water to put in the glass jar, in the following instructions.

Then each time I want to make a batch of CDS, I follow the following instructions, which I have printed out and kept on a shelf of my kitchen cupboard, next to the above Galashield Glass Jar, shot glass, and two of the measuring spoons - the 2 tsp and 2 Tbsp spoons. These two measuring spoons are dedicated to this task. The sodium chlorite flakes, citric acid powder, and DMSO I keep on the "strange chemicals" shelf of my storage room. If I baked (I don't), the citric acid might have a dual purpose, but for me all of these chemicals are just used for CDS and best not confused with food stuff on my kitchen's cupboard shelves.


How to make chlorine dioxide solution (CDS) from distilled water,
sodium chlorite flakes, and citric acid powder, using a glass jar
and a shot glass, to then be stored in a Boston Brown glass jar in
a refrigerator.

1) Add distilled water to jar, up to (previously marked) line
2) Add 2 teaspoons of sodium chlorite flakes to shot glass
3) Add 2 teaspoons of citric acid powder to shot glass
4) Carefully put shot glass inside jar
5) Measure 2 Tablespoons of water into measuring cup
6) Add water to shot glass and close jar lid
7) Put jar inside cabinet and wait a day (or more)
8) Remove jar from cabinet (keep level)
9) Remove shot glass carefully from jar
10) Discard shot glass contents (brown water and maybe salt)
11) Pour brown CDS from jar into Boston Brown glass bottle,
best done using a funnel and measuring cup
12) Store CDS in refrigerator, inside that bottle

Cautions:
A] Sodium chlorite flakes are toxic AND a fire accelerant.
B] Try not to spill the impure salty shot glass liquid into
the pure chlorine dioxide solution (CDS) in the glass jar.

I keep two Boston brown glass jars of CDS in my refrigerator at all times. So long as the refrigerator temperature on the shelf where these jars are kept is below about (I forget exactly) 45F (7C), the CDS, inside a dark glass jar in a usually dark place, remains stable indefinitely (longer than I've noticed so far.) One of these jars has a bit of DMSO (perhaps 5% or 10% or so, not measured, just eyeballed) added to the CDS, and the other is pure CDS. Both jars are labeled, as one can't otherwise tell which is which. Each batch of CDS is about 8 ounces, so once either 16 oz Boston brown glass jar gets less than half full, I can make another batch and top it off.

The above listed Kyocera Travel Mug is the best mug I've found so far for holding a dose of CDS, mixed in (already refrigerated below 45F) drinking water, perhaps with two or three drops of essential lemon oil for taste, and an ice cube or two, for when I want to drink some CDS over a few hours (or quicker, if I'm impatient). This mug holds the cold quite well, is ceramic lined so as not to interact with the CDS, and has a top that is simple, durable and easy to clean.

[ThePythonicCow]

I was looking for sodium chlorite online and I found only the liquid form at 25%, so I am giving a try with this one.
See my Amazon list in my post just above for sodium chlorite flakes.

Regarding the acid, any of the mild acid powders, such as malic acid or citric acid that are (so I'm told - not my expertise) used as effervescent's in baking are fine ... one is just looking for a simple chemical reaction, in a convenient powder form, with a similar concentration (amount of bubbles per measured amount by volume).

[palehorse]

I was looking for sodium chlorite online and I found only the liquid form at 25%, so I am giving a try with this one.
See my Amazon list in my post just above for sodium chlorite flakes.

Regarding the acid, any of the mild acid powders, such as malic acid or citric acid that are (so I'm told - not my expertise) used as effervescent's in baking are fine ... one is just looking for a simple chemical reaction, in a convenient powder form, with a similar concentration (amount of bubbles per measured amount by volume).


Many thanks, for the ingredient list and the preparing method, now it is crystal clear. Luck I didn't buy the liquid form and I saw your post now, I will ordering it.
That was very well explained :bowing:

[ThePythonicCow]

Dr. Lee Merritt gives her simple step by step instructions for mixing and using chlorine dioxide. What to do when you are sick. How to keep from being sick.

Chlorine Dioxide--a basic guide to get started. (https://rumble.com/v5jr3v8-chlorine-dioxide-a-basic-guide-to-get-started..html)

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[Delight]

Lee Merritt shares some really valuable experience. I recommend this video to better understand enough to feel inspired to use simple techniques to support our healing/health.

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[TravelerJim]

Great thread. Has anyone used a product from Safrax.com? I have bought some and they do not offer advise on how to take their product orally, and I understand why. But they did send a link here which is some thing Lee Merritt links to: https://www.aquacentrum.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Forbidden-Health-Andreas-Kalcker-CDL-MMS-437p-z-lib.org_.pdf

Any thoughts are much appreciated here.

[ThePythonicCow]

Great thread. Has anyone used a product from Safrax.com?
If we knew which Safrax product you had, a list of its ingredients, and perhaps some idea of what you intended to accomplish with it, some of us here might have some useful suggestions on where to look further.

[jaybee]

*
*

I need to catch up with the info in this thread - but I wonder if anyone can give me feedback before I make time for that....

I'm just getting over a humdinger of a respiratory virus/infection.... I haven't been this bad since Dec 2019 when I had 'covid' before 'covid' was named and became a 'thing' a rather big thing :-) I have shared elsewhere in the past that I said at the time I felt like I'd been hit with a bio weapon (because of the harsh and for me, unusual symptoms I had).... what I've got now reminds me of that time and I do wonder if this respiratory illness could even have a connection with the original 'covid' laboratory created virus... my lungs have never been so bad - I'm talking not being able to breath in the night, bad..... the viral infection.... whatever it is... BEGAN in my lungs - the first time I've had something so serious that began in the lungs and went UP rather than beginning in the nose and throat and going down... breathlessness began a while back and over around 14 days it gradually got worse then went full on illness mode...... I'm still not recovered although my lungs are much better than what they were....


anyway... I suddenly remembered that I had some MMS in the cupboard that I'd forgotten about for a LONG time... like years...I got it out and it was in the original MMS bottle - there was something else in a little bag that might have been citric acid grains? - but I'm not going to mess with that as there's no label now...

there is nothing to say what the ingredients are on the bottle - I had put an extra label on myself saying MMS - so I presume this is what has to be activated to create Chlorine Dioxide... (would it be a sodium chloride or chlorate solution....? in the bottle...?)

I've put 5 drops in a small glass and added some lemon juice directly from a lemon... swished it around and after around 10 minutes it has the distinctive strong smell of what I take to be chlorine dioxide... what else could it be...?...it smells like the tell tale swimming baths smell...

I've added this to around 3/4 pint of still spring water and I've been taking sips a few times a day...

I do seem to be getting better - maybe quicker than I would have...? but the 'virus' has gone deep into my lung tissue so it's going to be a while before I'm full recovered...

The smell and the taste.... it must be chlorine dioxide..... mustn't it....?

Well I'm still here so it can't be anything deadly lol...

[ThePythonicCow]

I've added this to around 3/4 pint of still spring water and I've been taking sips a few times a day...

The smell and the taste.... it must be chlorine dioxide..... mustn't it....?
When I drink chlorine dioxide in water, I add 3 or 4 drops of lemon essential oil per pint.

That result is a major improvement in the taste.

[jaybee]

I've added this to around 3/4 pint of still spring water and I've been taking sips a few times a day...

The smell and the taste.... it must be chlorine dioxide..... mustn't it....?
When I drink chlorine dioxide in water, I add 3 or 4 drops of lemon essential oil per pint.

That result is a major improvement in the taste.


thanks for that - the taste and smell doesn't bother me too much because it is so diluted - but I have lemon essential oil so might give it a try some time -

do you know what would be in the 'MMS' bottle...? is it sodium chloride or sodium chlorate... or something else...?

Just wondering what the raw chemical material is before activation into chlorine dioxide...

[jaybee]

Dr. Lee Merritt gives her simple step by step instructions for mixing and using chlorine dioxide. What to do when you are sick. How to keep from being sick.

Chlorine Dioxide--a basic guide to get started. (https://rumble.com/v5jr3v8-chlorine-dioxide-a-basic-guide-to-get-started..html)

v5hhym4


Just starting to watch this.... and I see (3:06) that it's a sodium chlorite solution that is at the base of it so that must be what's in my (old) bottle of MMS.... it's just been in the cupboard for years and doesn't appear to have lost it's potency - going by the activation - taste and smell....

Perhaps more about ingredient details were on a box - or instructions leaflet...

cheers

[ThePythonicCow]

it's a sodium chlorite solution that is at the base of it so that must be what's in my (old) bottle of MMS
Yes - the most common way that MMS is sold is in a pair of those approx 4 ounce white plastic bottles, with tops that are convenient for measuring out drops. Part A will be the sodium chlorite solution (sometimes that bottle is labeled MMS) and Part B will be a mild acid solution, of the right potency to go with Part A, an equal number of drops from each bottle.

My (fading) recollection is that the two ingredients have a long shelf life, but whether "long" is several years or several decades I don't know ... perhaps never knew. I would expect them to fade slowly, and measuring the exact potency of the resulting chlorine dioxide solution, once mixed (one or a few drops of each in water) is not easy. MMS made from less potent ingredients is not "bad" ... just weaker. The approximate potency can be measured with some test strips that one can purchase, but that measurement is give or take a factor of often no better than two (1/2 X to 2 X), and depends on the shelf life of the test strips themselves, which shelf life is probably shorter than what's being measured. Once the Part A (sodium chlorite) and B (mild acid) drops are mixed in water to form active chlorine dioxide solution, then shelf life is short, unless stored at nearly freezing temperatures (32F to low 40's F, I forget exactly) in glass bottles and darkness (dark glass and/or closed refrigerator). The half life of already mixed chlorine dioxide solution in an open container at room temperature is perhaps a half hour to two hours (guessing), as the chlorine dioxide (a quite small gas molecule) evaporates into the surrounding air.

So if trying to be precise in dosing, one needs to count drops and use fresh (whatever 'fresh' means - years or decades - I don't know) ingredients and then use the mixed result right away.

Once familiar with it and how one's body is responding, then dosing is more like one's grandmother baking a cake - a cup of that and a pinch of this - varying by circumstances and what's available.

If you're a research scientist such as Andreas Kalcker, a bit obsessive of details and writing a reference book such as "Forbidden Health" for use by millions, based on your careful studies of many years, then it's all quite a bit more precise and scientific.

[jaybee]

Dr. Lee Merritt gives her simple step by step instructions for mixing and using chlorine dioxide. What to do when you are sick. How to keep from being sick.

Chlorine Dioxide--a basic guide to get started. (https://rumble.com/v5jr3v8-chlorine-dioxide-a-basic-guide-to-get-started..html)

v5hhym4


Just starting to watch this.... and I see (3:06) that it's a sodium chlorite solution that is at the base of it so that must be what's in my (old) bottle of MMS.... it's just been in the cupboard for years and doesn't appear to have lost it's potency - going by the activation - taste and smell....

Perhaps more about ingredient details were on a box - or instructions leaflet...

cheers


quoting myself to add.... @20:24 ... Dr Lee Merritt says that one thing that Chlorine Dioxide might not be able to help with is a Bio~weapon... which got my attention as I have suspicions about this very nasty chest virus/infection that I'm still getting over* - so I've ordered some nicotine gum because she talks about bio~weapony 'things' being involved with blockading the nicotinic receptors and nicotine (gum and patches) can undo the blockade... somehow....I'm going to carry on with the Chlorine Dioxide anyway and when the nicotine gum comes use that a bit as well....


* just to share something that others may have experienced - about 6 days ago when I was outside I had the sensation that very fine rain was falling and could feel it on my skin - but there was no cloud and no rain - I thought it might have been blowing in from the sky somewhere so thought no more about it - but it happened on a couple more days after, when I was outside - like a fine rain sensation on the skin but no rain and no clouds above - but then when I was in the big Tesco's near me - INSIDE the store.... I got the fine rain on the skin sensation again and thought aye aye that's weird...

so I thought maybe the chest virus was affecting my nerve endings making them ping and react.... but also a few days previous to that I had seen a suspicious criss crossing of chem? trails in the sky - but if it was this how would they get into Tescos...?.... unless the air conditioning was sucking it in.... ?

anyway I've never felt anything like that before or since so I don't know what it was - what a palaver, eh :) -

[ThePythonicCow]

so I've ordered some nicotine gum
I've recently been toying with nicotine gum, as I do with various nutrients and such.

So far the nicotine seems to increase the time I can remain productively focused on some geeky task, but it also might have a downside, in that it seems to weaken my eyesight, turning the pixels on my screen fuzzier.

However chlorine dioxide solution (CDS) to the rescue once again. Orally consuming it fixes the eyesight in 10 or 20 minutes, and misting it directly into my open eyes is even quicker. Unlike most little perfume misters which are transparent plastic (that lets light in and likely dissolves a little into the CDS, the following glass vial inside an aluminum case is well suited for CDS:

Lisapack 8ml Perfume Atomizer Spray Bottle
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D7VXFKN3
54545

It just arrived on my door step earlier today, and already it's a permanent part of my CDS kit.

[jaybee]

so I've ordered some nicotine gum
I've recently been toying with nicotine gum, as I do with various nutrients and such.

So far the nicotine seems to increase the time I can remain productively focused on some geeky task, but it also might have a downside, in that it seems to weaken my eyesight, turning the pixels on my screen fuzzier.

However chlorine dioxide solution (CDS) to the rescue once again. Orally consuming it fixes the eyesight in 10 or 20 minutes, and misting it directly into my open eyes is even quicker. Unlike most little perfume misters which are transparent plastic (that lets light in and likely dissolves a little into the CDS, the following glass vial inside an aluminum case is well suited for CDS:

Lisapack 8ml Perfume Atomizer Spray Bottle
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D7VXFKN3
54545

It just arrived on my door step earlier today, and already it's a permanent part of my CDS kit.


Thanks....

Re. using nicotine in conjunction with Chlorine Dioxide to cover the (likely) possibility that there are Lab produced virus's constantly circulating with un~natural codes tucked away in lipid covered nano particles .... and that nicotine can help -

I've order some tobacco seeds - Lemon Virginia ones..... there's a lot to chose from but that one caught my eye so I've stuck with it - it will be fun to grow something new - and bees are said to love the flowers on it...

I'm thinking it could be used in a weak 'tea' or a footbath or something... ???

[norman]

Mike Adams Talks with Frontier Pharm on Chlorine Dioxide: Natural Healing for Health and Recovery

To learn more, visit: https://frontierpharm.com/


- Introduction and Purpose of the Interview (0:00)

- Overview of Frontier Farm Products (2:37)

- Details of Chlorine Dioxide Mouthwash (6:21)

- Introduction of Snoot Spray (11:10)

- Additional Chlorine Dioxide Products (20:06)

- Challenges and Misconceptions of Chlorine Dioxide (29:03)

- Applications and Benefits for Children and Pets (32:48)

- Philosophy and Formulation of Frontier Farm Products (56:44)

- Conclusion and Future Plans (57:02)


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[ThePythonicCow]

Mike Adams Talks with Frontier Pharm on Chlorine Dioxide: Natural Healing for Health and Recovery

To learn more, visit: https://frontierpharm.com/
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66882ef6-ff95-471d-9499-f87b2a676bf1
At the 13:27 mark, Mike Adams refers to the active ingredient as "chlorine gas". Mike should know better.

Chlorine dioxide gas (typically dissolved in an water based solution) is as different from its components chlorine and oxygen as table salt (sodium chlorite) is different from its components sodium and chlorine. Simple compounds of basic elements routinely have much different chemistry than the basic elements from which they are composed.

Chlorine dioxide gas is much less reactive and much more biologically beneficial than chlorine gas which is highly reactive and biologically harmful.

Our bodies are rich with chlorine ions ... which are chlorine atoms with one additional electron.

Chlorine ions are negatively charged, but chemically neutral, and form a major and essential part of the electrical networks in our body's liquids. That's why salt (sodium chlorite) is such an important nutrient, as it dissolves into sodium and chlorine ions, both chemically inert and electrically charged, and both essential to the electrical activity in all animals, fish, and birds.

Chlorine atoms are electrically neutral, but chemically corrosive, and biologically harmful, not beneficial.

Chlorine dioxide in the body is neutral biologically in the vicinity of healthy cells, but when it encounters an "electron stealer" molecule, it breaks down into

a chlorine ion (abundant in and essential to the body)
an oxygen ion, which is biologically neutral and common in the body, and
an oxygen atom.
That oxygen atom then oxidizes the first thing it can find, which is almost always the very "electron stealer" molecule that caused the chlorine dioxide to break down in the first place, and which "electron stealer" molecules are common in almost all toxins.

Chlorine dioxide is the "perfect cop", passing unnoticed through and past almost all healthy body tissues, until it encounters a "bad guy" toxic molecule, which it almost instantly (microseconds) neutralizes.

[ThePythonicCow]

Good grief - I purchased Snoot ten years ago on Amazon for $12.95. Now that same product, same size, is $49.99 on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009TEWQTG), or $39.99 on the Snootspray website (https://www.snootspray.com/products/snoot-nasal-cleanser-1-pack-most-popular?variant=248413836). I'd wager that some of that extra cost goes to their marketing budget, and that Mike Adams has somehow benefited from that.

[norman]

from Josh del Sol Beaulieu - 01 January 2026

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/C4E03AQGWWvCTkwrcTA/profile-displayphoto-shrink_200_200/profile-displayphoto-shrink_200_200/0/1517564043397?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=AV0wdOYDF82cAMzyDbTpu4TIi-xLvb2I5Ju2cDoBiLs


Many of you are already familiar with the amazing benefits of CD, though perhaps haven't known where to obtain it, since big pharma has prevented it from being on store shelves.

Chlorine dioxide supports your growth by helping clear dense energy, sharpen inner clarity, ease emotional heaviness, and create a cleaner internal environment that aligns the body with higher states of consciousness. It works through oxygenation and the balancing of microorganisms, useful for wound care, acute illness chronic conditions, general detoxification, or pet and household care.

There's also a large Telegram channel I follow called "The Universal Antidote (https://eot.takebackyourpower.net/f/a/Q-cMwQoPyXvicrBPfeLv5A~~/AAAHURA~/ze1VnEcJDYjRxMo3tfKw5jAIBZ96ihhNUgl3WEcOxwy1aHJoIDCSOwwJfwv5O5xh4yRpRlrRXRoT6mYUzbUNuuKNvhz4opugHf5-PdUYQ7iksJ7cI4DzhiguseqNgS5IPZNfCW4Nd71gIEaCgFSX0RyUc3lmmLXrbndVFk-iHpb7VyA_aqo68F79L2NlUZdn)" with stories upon stories of healing testimonies with CD...

If you're curious about the powerful benefits of this simple compound, my good friend Mikkel Lee, founder of Aethers Reach, is offering a free, live presentation and Q&A on January 6th. If you can't make it at that time, a replay will be sent to all who sign up.

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LIVE Chlorine Dioxide Q&A
Date: Tuesday, January 6th, 2026
Time: 1pm PT / 4pm ET


Sign Up for Free Webinar w/ Q&A (https://www.aethersreach.com/qa-registration-josh)




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For a limited time, save 10% off CD kits (4oz or 2oz) with code JOSH10. Prices start at just $27 for a 3-6 month supply.

Details Here (https://www.aethersreach.com/qa-registration-josh).