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ktlight
30th November 2011, 08:55
FYI:
"The United States has used tactical nuclear weapons in its military campaign against Iraq and Afghanistan, a Middle East expert tells Press TV.


“Tactical nuclear weapons were used, at least one in Iraq and several were used in Afghanistan --in the Tora Bora mountains,” Peter Eyre, a Middle East consultant, said.

Eyre pointed out that the atomic bomb dropped on Afghanistan's Tora Bora region was so powerful that it actually created an earthquake there.

The analyst went on to say that the use of such lethal weapons by US military, which is a gross violation of the Geneva Convention, has been sanctioned by the US presidents; thus they should be prosecuted for war crimes.

"In America, the ultimate commander in chief is the president," Eyre said, adding that the President has the final say in using such weapons.

The US is the first country in the world to develop nuclear weapons and the only one to use them.

Thousands of people were killed in August 1945, when the US bombers dropped atomic bombs on Japan's Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The US invaded Afghanistan in 2001 under the pretext of toppling the Taliban regime, claiming that the militants have refused to hand over Osama bin Laden.

The US also invaded Iraq in 2003 under the excuse of destroying alleged weapons of mass destruction (WMD) belonging to former dictator Saddam Hussein.

Many civilians, including women and children, have been killed as a result of these wars.

The US-led war in Afghanistan, with civilian and military casualties at record highs, has become the longest war in the US history."

source and to watch an important video
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212827.html

syrwong
30th November 2011, 16:59
Believable but very sad for humankind. There is no moral consideration whatsoever, only efficiency considerations. If this can be done to wipe out an area of resistance, how farfetched is it to use strategic nukes to wipe out an enemy city? When I heard David Wilcock said nuclear war will not happen because the benign aliens would not allow it, I was quite skeptical. This disclosure actually indicates that nuclear war has already happened and apparently will grow to an ever greater scale, because the Powers will find using nuclear weapons very convenient.

Lord Sidious
30th November 2011, 17:11
I recall a claim being made of a micro nuke being used in Iraq during the war or the period after when they were subduing the resistance.

toad
30th November 2011, 22:15
Is there any evidence to confirm such a thing?

WhiteFeather
30th November 2011, 22:20
I'm not buying it. Sorry, it doesn't resonate with me. I can smell B/S. Someone break out the deodorizer.

mh842
30th November 2011, 22:31
I served in Afghanistan a few years ago. And i can personally tell you that no nuke was used there. We wear radiation dose-o-maters. Do to some ammunition containing depleted uranium as a harding agent to penetrate farther into a target. And my dose-o-mater did not read anything that would have supported this.

vibrations
30th November 2011, 22:46
I served in Afghanistan a few years ago. And i can personally tell you that no nuke was used there. We wear radiation dose-o-maters. Do to some ammunition containing depleted uranium as a harding agent to penetrate farther into a target. And my dose-o-mater did not read anything that would have supported this.
I believe you and respect your experience but we have to think that Afganistan is a big country and in this cases just a few selected units would have the knowledge of the use of Nukes, don't you think.

Ron Mauer Sr
30th November 2011, 22:49
Depleted uranium, U238, is a nuclear weapon.

Three hundred tons of DU weapons were fired into Iraq and turned into dust during the Gulf War.
The radioactive dust kills slowly and causes birth defects for an estimated 5 billion years according to this video.

Is the United States still using this stuff, indiscriminately killing all troops, including ours and civilians?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTJ1let0so

mh842
30th November 2011, 23:18
Yes Afghanistan is a big country but i work in the area of Tora Bora and the Registan desert. So i was in and around the areas where the supposed nukes were used. As for the post by rmauserse.
I agree with the argument you are making..
Cheers

TargeT
30th November 2011, 23:32
I served in Afghanistan a few years ago. And i can personally tell you that no nuke was used there. We wear radiation dose-o-maters. Do to some ammunition containing depleted uranium as a harding agent to penetrate farther into a target. And my dose-o-mater did not read anything that would have supported this.

Ditto for Iraq ( at least the southern portion)



Depleted uranium, U238, is a nuclear weapon

I'd call it a weapon that's "mildly" radio active, not a "nuclear weapon" as that brings a different idea...

we are talking about a hard metal rod, not an explosive device.

ghostrider
1st December 2011, 00:12
it a nuclear device was used, there will be radiation sickness, hair falling out and weak bones and such. nothing the PTB does would surprise me, true or not. bunch of sneaky little trolls, where's my lightsabre ??

Spartacus
1st December 2011, 09:16
Depleted uranium, U238, is a nuclear weapon.

Three hundred tons of DU weapons were fired into Iraq and turned into dust during the Gulf War.
The radioactive dust kills slowly and causes birth defects for an estimated 5 billion years according to this video.

Is the United States still using this stuff, indiscriminately killing all troops, including ours and civilians?

Yes...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=98MBz8bG_M4

Davidallany
1st December 2011, 09:47
adding that the President has the final say in using such weapons.
I do not blame TPTB and their representatives anymore, it's not a democracy, and those with an a ounce of authority will use it to get what they want, we see this on the larger and small scales, from forums to World governments, that is the current system. Lie once cheat twice. Furthermore, they are not obliged to reveal truth to people.

toad
1st December 2011, 19:22
Why would we use a nuclear weapon in Afghanistan?

johnf
1st December 2011, 19:43
This is one press release from an Iran news station. Are there any articles or vids making this claim from somewhere that is not being subjected to a massive campaign to attack it on the basis of suspected nuclear proliferation?

Arrowwind
1st December 2011, 19:58
I served in Afghanistan a few years ago. And i can personally tell you that no nuke was used there. We wear radiation dose-o-maters. Do to some ammunition containing depleted uranium as a harding agent to penetrate farther into a target. And my dose-o-mater did not read anything that would have supported this.




Depleted uranium, U238, is a nuclear weapon

I'd call it a weapon that's "mildly" radio active, not a "nuclear weapon" as that brings a different idea...

Well there is a huge difference between nuclear bombs and depleted uranium bombs... but the long term kill effect of depleted uranium will last for many many generations as this product breaks up in the explosion and contaminates the soil which blows in the wind, enters water supplies and farmers fields. It will even blow to the UK as a study of wind currents reveals. If you look into it you will find that childhood cancer in Iraq has skyrocketed since their use in very specific and targeted places in Iraq. Physicians there now say that instead of wishing for a boy when babies are born they are just wishing for a non-deformed child.. any child, girl or boy.

Also US military that handled these weapons also got cancer, especially those soilders that actually sat on the bombs as they were carried around in trucks

This is the hugest coverup that is readily known to anyone seeking the information. It is banned from US media... and Ive been harping on it for years on other forums. No one wants to discuss it. Denial? Fear? can't handle the truth?

Mulder
1st December 2011, 20:33
The US has used depleted uranium in anti-tank rounds, etc. This is extremely toxic & will stay radioactive for thousands of years. But no atomic or nuclear bombs have been used as the radiation would have blown to other countries & shown up.

Davidallany
2nd December 2011, 00:36
Yes Afghanistan is a big country but i work in the area of Tora Bora and the Registan desert. So i was in and around the areas where the supposed nukes were used. As for the post by rmauserse.
I agree with the argument you are making..
Cheers
It's good that you are not there anymore, regardless of what you were doing there. Poor, poor Afghani people, may they rest in peace.

sygh
2nd December 2011, 01:21
I had no idea the U.S. used depleted uranium, U238 in any of their bombs. Cave busters... yup. It hits home now.

It makes me sick to even think of it. But then, the bombs w/o U-238 were terrible enough for me to begin with. I was horrified by what was shown on television. Horrified. I just couldn't believe it. Felt like I was in a living nightmare.

This will sound naive but I don't understand how people can treat each other so bad, be it war or peace. Take away the necessities of life, I expect this drives the train.

TargeT
2nd December 2011, 01:44
I had no idea the U.S. used depleted uranium, U238 in any of their bombs. Cave busters... yup. It hits home now.

DU is NOT... i repeat NOT used with explosive ordinence; it is used as a penitrator, a "sabo" (basicaly a metal rod....)

DU is VERY VERY low in radioactivity (not saying its safe. but its the heavy metal you need to worry about more than the radiation IMO..)

this is a minor issue; I was exposed to a lot of DU dust, I was in an area lots of rounds were fired & was a round burnt out tanks a lot.. didn't come back any hotter than anyone else.. infact I probably got less radiation exposure that year than I ever did due to not flying as much.

this has pretty good info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium



This will sound naive but I don't understand how people can treat each other so bad, be it war or peace. Take away the necessities of life, I expect this drives the train.

I have several theories on this... but really I think that most people "at war" don't really want to be there... we have a lot of statistics that back this up in the US military... historical events that do the same etc...

MOST people ARE GOOD! its just so easy to loose sight of this due to the few (8-10%) bad apples.

Etherios
3rd December 2011, 17:09
I had no idea the U.S. used depleted uranium, U238 in any of their bombs. Cave busters... yup. It hits home now.

DU is NOT... i repeat NOT used with explosive ordinence; it is used as a penitrator, a "sabo" (basicaly a metal rod....)

DU is VERY VERY low in radioactivity (not saying its safe. but its the heavy metal you need to worry about more than the radiation IMO..)

this is a minor issue; I was exposed to a lot of DU dust, I was in an area lots of rounds were fired & was a round burnt out tanks a lot.. didn't come back any hotter than anyone else.. infact I probably got less radiation exposure that year than I ever did due to not flying as much.

this has pretty good info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium



This will sound naive but I don't understand how people can treat each other so bad, be it war or peace. Take away the necessities of life, I expect this drives the train.

I have several theories on this... but really I think that most people "at war" don't really want to be there... we have a lot of statistics that back this up in the US military... historical events that do the same etc...

MOST people ARE GOOD! its just so easy to loose sight of this due to the few (8-10%) bad apples.

Well i dont know what knowledge you have about Du ... but the doctor that was responsible to make the guides on how to use these DU weapons when they first made then few decades ago ... well he says DU is very very very dangerous and the dust will cause you problems even death. The dust is inhaled and then it creates the problems. Maybe unused DU give very low radiation but at the areas of firing or the impact areas the dust is a killer for many many thousand years.

Personally i want to believe him ... sorry. Well i am sure all the sick soldiers that come from Iraq ... are being effected by something right?