"What Was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

[observer]

Abstract:

“The Connection of 440Hz to the Containment of the Human Species; what was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

It has only been through the study of researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, and Zecharia Sitchin that I’ve come to realize the “gods" of antiquity were nothing more than a reptilian species of extra-dimensional entities that were actually responsible for the “creation” of Homo Sapiens.

This is well documented as the story of the Anunnaki in the Zecharia Sitchin material. These Same Draconian Reptiles have been responsible for the organization of our Human civilizations, and the continued manipulation of the evolution of our social structures – throughout recorded history.

One must realize, the intelligence capacity of Homo Sapiens has not changed considerably since we first appeared on the planet some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago. (generally, the accepted age of the species) The only thing that has changed over that span of time is the “understanding” of Humanity. The so-called “mythologies” were the best attempt of a primitive people to document what they were observing as events occurred, using the only concepts that were available at the time. The fact that reptiles – in one form or another – appear in the mythologies of indigenous people around the globe is evidence enough these “gods” (reptilian life forms) who apparently come from the Draco Star System have been controlling reality here for a very long time.

The evidential trail is overwhelming that these “demonic” forces have been continuously invoked through ritualistic ceremonies preformed by our ruling elite since the dawn of civilization. Call them “fallen angels”, demons, extraterrestrial aliens, extra-dimensional entities, or a myriad of other names, the fact remains these energies have been operating from behind the screen of smoke-and-mirrors of reality since Humanity first civilized.

The occult cabals that maintained an obvious control of our social structures throughout history have a direct link to these demonic forces through the rituals preformed in their secret meetings. What is the connection between the obsession with the symbology of ancient Egypt and these exclusive clubs for the elite? What were the mythological “gods” of antiquity doing to the Masses that were so important for the global elite to memorialize that activity in symbols? Why are these symbols on our currencies, corporate logos, military uniforms, foundational institutions of society, coats of arms of the global elite, etc.?

For me, it was a great revelation when, through the work of Dr. Leo Horowitz, I discovered the healing vibrations of the Solfeggio Music Scale. (see link at: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/solfeggiofrequencies.html)

I learned this healing vibrational scale was in use until the great classical masters such as, Mozart, and Bach were instrumental in abandoning this Solfeggio Scale for the more modern tuning of 440Hz Concert A.

I was already aware of the connection of these great “masters” with (what David Icke refers to as) the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. I immediately realized there was a connection to the conspiracy to abandon the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A) in favor of the 440Hz as an affront to Humanity. This conversion to 440Hz Concert A is really an entirely modern phenomenon – just in the past one hundred plus years. 417Hz has been the frequency used for the musical note A since antiquity. The abandon of the Solfeggio Scale for the more modern concert scales has had a dynamic effect on the healing vibrations of the music we listen to as a society. The conversion has been all about controlling the masses.

The effect of vibrations on what the Mass of Humanity perceives as real has everything to do with controlling the Mass of Humanity through the control of the frequencies of reality.

All material manifestation here in this particular third density is a complex combination of electromagnetic frequencies. The thousands of miles of DNA in our bodies are nothing more than frequency receptors – antennae. Humanities perception of reality is predicated by our body’s ability to receive frequencies and interpret those frequencies in our brains into what we perceive as material structure.

So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.

The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids….

Update
For those of you interested in following the dialogue that lead-up to this possibility, I direct you to two Threads at the old Avalon site. The following are a list of links to all of the pages of those Threads:

•Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section - Page 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

•The Giza Geomatrix exposure - Pge 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279
(follow the pages of the Threads from the links)


I'm adding this dialogue to this Thread so that anyone wanting to research a portion of the evidence that led to this discovery can do so.

2nd Update

OP's Note to Commenters:
I started this thread to gain further input from any member who might have 'credible evidence' (either pro, or con) to support (or reject) the theory laid-out in the abstract in the original post of this thread.

I'm looking for evidence from the archaeological record, interviews of first person accounts, references from documented written text, or any evidence that may be 'reproducible' in content.

Anyone can write a book concerning what the 'voices in their head' are telling them. Some of these books can be quite entertaining. None of this sort of information is relevant to this thread....

For a further clarification of this Note, see the following comment:


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[shiva777]

ET trans[portation portal
arc of the covenant portal protector
inner earth portal access protector
energy transformer
and many more...it is the 4D stargate marker and sits on the earths 4th chakra,the heart chakra...

[observer]

ET trans[portation portal
arc of the covenant portal protector
inner earth portal access protector
energy transformer
and many more...it is the 4D stargate marker and sits on the earths 4th chakra,the heart chakra...

shiva,

Nothing in your comment has any basis in reality, with exception of possibly a repository for the Arc of the Covenant. (Even this theory has not been documented with archaeological evidence - it's just a theory.)

Everything else you have mentioned is the figment of some one's over active imagination. You're getting your information from "channeled" material. Everything being sent to Humanity through telepathy is "tainted" truth. The Mass of Humanity has been lied to since before the Dawn of Civilization This is how the Draconian Reptiles have controlled the Mass of Humanity since they "created" us. Everything you think you know.... is a LIE !!!

Review the "real" evidence (do some research into what Maxwell, Icke, and Sitchin are saying - all "hard" evidence from the record). This is the only possible conclusion one can come to.

These Reptiles are very clever at what they do. They've been fooling Humanity for a VERY long time !!!

[Lost Soul]

Simple me. I thought it was a temple of initiation where someone could ascend.

[observer]

Simple me. I thought it was a temple of initiation where someone could ascend.

Lost Soul,

Ascension is nothing more than a final phase of the "Wheel of Karma" (If one is clever enough to figure-out the key to unlocking the gate). The ascension process is NOT something the "gods" of antiquity would have initiated the Masses into. One must research the paranormal for years before one can even understand the connection between karma and keeping the soul "locked" in never ending cycles of birth and rebirth. To my knowledge, there are no definitive treaties on the concept that the collective soul of the Mass of Humanity has been "locked" in a "prison" of birth and rebirth by a demonic power otherwise known as Draconian Reptiles (semantics: fallen angles). There is an obvious good reason for the lack of this kind of information.

The New Age concept of "ascension" has been brought to us by the same fourth dimensional "prison wardens" who have been responsible for bringing Humanity all the other "great works" of religious dogma through the mechanism of telepathic communication.

A through review of the evidence will reveal the New Age concept of "ascension" is nothing more than a "buzz word" for: "You are all going to die".

It's our collective responsibility to figure-out how the mechanism works, so that we ALL can get out of this prison. Ascension will not be complete until the entire "body of humanity" returns to singularity....

[john.d]

Simple me. I thought it was a temple of initiation where someone could ascend.

That makes two of us ..... Initiation and healing as far as im concerned . Not everything on this world has come from negative entities .

[Solphilos]

shiva,

Nothing in your comment has any basis in reality, with exception of possibly a repository for the Arc of the Covenant. (Even this theory has not been documented with archaeological evidence - it's just a theory.)

Everything else you have mentioned is the figment of some one's over active imagination. You're getting your information from "channeled" material. Everything being sent to Humanity through telepathy is "tainted" truth. The Mass of Humanity has been lied to since before the Dawn of Civilization This is how the Draconian Reptiles have controlled the Mass of Humanity since they "created" us. Everything you think you know.... is a LIE !!!

Review the "real" evidence (do some research into what Maxwell, Icke, and Sitchin are saying - all "hard" evidence from the record). This is the only possible conclusion one can come to.

These Reptiles are very clever at what they do. They've been fooling Humanity for a VERY long time !!!

First off, who are you to tell another that what they know or believe is a lie? You make such a bold arrogant statement, while yourself spouting on about theories conjured by others, that may possibly have no basis in reality themselves. This post is just another 'my belief vs. your belief'.

"Hard" evidence from Maxwell, Icke, and Sitchin; is that a joke? Those who are truly fooled are those that think they are the only ones with the truth. Complete Hypocrisy and arrogance.

As for the pyramids, there is no definite proof as to what they were originally intended for. All we can resort to is speculation and guesses based on given details about them. Without concrete proof, any idea is just as good as any other.

[Lost Soul]

The ascension process is NOT something the "gods" of antiquity would have initiated the Masses into. One must research the paranormal for years before one can even understand the connection between karma and keeping the soul "locked" in never ending cycles of birth and rebirth.

Actually, no. Ascension is an ancient concept and the Buddhist refer to it as entering into a state of nirvana.


To my knowledge, there are no definitive treaties on the concept that the collective soul of the Mass of Humanity has been "locked" in a "prison" of birth and rebirth by a demonic power otherwise known as Draconian Reptiles (semantics: fallen angles).

Concur, but that doesn't mean there weren't any who was aware that ascension was possible.

[frank samuel]

The solfeggio scale have been use successfully for healing and relieving stress, although it is controversial and opinions may abound and differ. It has work for me, my family, friends. Humanity in general have been blinded by our 3 dimensional view although there's has been many humans who have transcended and ascended beyond this limited view of our perceive reality. Today more and more people are waking up from the dream offer by the materialistic view of life looking within themselves for a greater and deeper understanding of the ether that is infinite and is part of everything that surrounds us. Perhaps one thing the genetic manipulators did not count on was that you cannot enslave or kill the soul that is connected to the source. As we become aware of the real us beyond the 3 dimensional temporal view of reality the ptw begin to loose control through the use of the illusion because we are no longer asleep. It is time to regain our sovereignty over ourselves , our families and eventually the world that surrounds us.

Although I have not done research in this area, there are people using pyramid forms as energy sources,there's an interesting book by Les Brown entitle, The Pyramid. He relates experiments done in the field of horticulture using pyramid forms to grow crops.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6501842/Les-Brown-The-Pyramid

Many many blessings to all..:thumb:

[Moemers]

If you haven't seen The Pyramid Code, I suggest checking it out. VERY interesting documentary about the falsities of what we're told is "history."

Here is part one: http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/3917AFBAE0CD425FA684A1F2352D3A1B/the-pyramid-code-2009-epis.aspx

The rest (I think there's 5 parts?) can easily be found online.

[observer]

To all of those making comments in this thread,

Please take note that I'm the individual who started this particular thread. It is with that authority that I've made the comments one may find in this thread so far. Every statement I've made has its basis in the evidential record.

Nothing I've said was intended to sound "arrogant". Perhaps I should have used the phrase, "everything WE think WE know is a LIE". Otherwise, I stand on everything I've represented as documented evidential fact.

With that regard, in response to what Solphilos has said: "Hard" evidence from Maxwell, Icke, and Sitchin; is that a joke?", I could be no more serious. You have obviously not researched any of these individuals work or you wouldn't be making these kinds of statements. I'm quite confident Bill Ryan would concur with my characterization of the work of these individuals as "hard" evidence, as Mr. Ryan has interviewed at least two of these individuals both separately and together in the past.

Please, Solphilos, do your research before you attack the messenger.....

Also, please take note in the beginning "Abstract" I specifically referred to the "Great Pyramid at Giza. To my knowledge this is the only structure that is "tuned" to any specific harmonic resonance. This discussion is specifically regarding that particular structure, and its connection to an agenda associated to the suppression of the Mass Consciousness.

[Swami]

The Giza Power Plant

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[observer]

The Giza Power Plant

Thank you Swami for the vid.

If the readers take note, in the "Abstract" at the beginning of the thread, I referenced Christopher Dunn as the source for the information regarding the "tuning" of the Giza Pyramid to 440Hz.(fast forward the video to 44 minutes) Mr. Dunn's conclusions are not in synchronization with what I've proposed in the abstract. I don't believe Mr. Dunn is aware concert A was not changed to 440Hz until the 1700/1800's with the advent of classical music.

I might also add that Paul Horn has a very beautiful flute recording from within the Kings Chamber. Being a flute player myself, I'm aware there is no way to tune the entire instrument to 417Hz (Solfeggio A - thank you Mozart and Bach). The resonance of the structure of the Kings Chamber can be heard on that recording of the 440Hz (Concert A) tuning of Paul's flute.

This is simply further evidence the structure was purposely "tuned" to a frequency that DOES NOT resonate with the cellular structure of the Human Species. (source: Dr. Horowitz's material)....

[Elandiel BernElve]

Excuse me but I sense a weird flaming discussion is starting here...
The true identity and purpose of the Great Pyramid is one we'll never know for sure, simply because we didn't build it and the truth about it is held secret.
Of course some researchers and people come very close to what the extend of it's abilities are.
Personally I think the pyramid doesn't have but one purpose.
It is a high-tech ancient looking extremely multi purpose building. Seriously people, why are you all so certain it's purpose is whether THIS or THAT while it could be both and more.
IF... it's been build by an ancient spacetravelling reptillian race (which is plausible but discussable) it would be likely to suggest they integrate multiple abilities or purposes in a building of that magnitude because they know how to.

That way it even helps spreading confusion about it's purpose to conceive what it really is.
Typically Reptillian right?

[morguana]

come on guys, lets chill..........there are many theories on the pyramid, that is all they are for now....theories,
no one has actually come up with any working hypothesis as to the true function of this ancient building, so untill then its all pretty much guess work.

have read some very interesting books regarding this subject, will dig them out and post titles here for anyone wishing for an interesting read

The Giza Power Plant: Technologies of Ancient Egypt by Christopher Dunn http://www.amazon.co.uk/Giza-Power-Plant-Technologies-Ancient/dp/1879181509/ref=pd_sim_b_6
Beneath the Pyramids: Egypt's Greatest Secret Uncovered by Andrew Collins http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beneath-Pyramids-Egypts-Greatest-Uncovered/dp/0876045719/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278411033&sr=8-2
The Great Pyramid of Egypt, Miracle in Stone: Secrets and Advanced Knowledge by Joseph Augustus Seiss http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Pyramid-Egypt-Miracle-Stone/dp/1605064238/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278411357&sr=1-8

[observer]

.........
It is a high-tech ancient looking extremely multi purpose building. Seriously people, why are you all so certain it's purpose is whether THIS or THAT while it could be both and more.
.........
That way it even helps spreading confusion about it's purpose to conceive what it really is.
Typically Reptilian right?

The argument I'm making here is all about the continuous control of the masses and the evidence for that control. The evidence is spread across the archaeological record in fragments. One must learn the symbols of the entities in control to understand how they have been doing it since the dawn of civilization. This is the basis for the arguments in this thread.

I'm not denying the pyramids around the globe had a plethora of functions. I'm saying one specific pyramid had ultimately one particular function - I'm sure among many other functions.

Consider the example of a traffic camera in modern society. One might argue it too has many functions. I think we would all agree, ultimately, control is the primary function of those cameras.

[conk]

I just finished The Giza Power Plant, by C. Dunn. He makes a convincing case for it being a power generator of sorts! At a minimum, the math and numbers associated with the pyramid are astounding. These people knew far more than we give them credit for.

[bettye198]

According to the Freedom Teachings, it was a point of teleportation where ET's traveled back and forth. Akhnaton found it his mission to help many ascend via the Sphere of Amenti connecting there. Many did, however, after time, his arrogance to the general population forced the royalty's hand to rid of him. Short time later when Atlantis went under and the floods followed, the grid was shaken so the alignment of the Giza Pyramid was taken off course and had to be rebuilt. The Ascension's no longer took place as before.

[observer]

I just finished The Giza Power Plant, by C. Dunn. He makes a convincing case for it being a power generator of sorts!....

Thank you conk for your observation. If you have read through this thread you will see I've referenced Mr. Dunn several times. I agree with your conclusion that Mr. Dunn makes a convincing case, he however, fails to connect the "tuning" of the Kings chamber to any particular known data. Therefore, Mr. Dunn might very well be correct in his conclusion that the structure was a "power plant", however, I think the evidence shows the power being generated was used for a much more sinister purpose.

Mr. Dunn tries to tie the specific "tuning" of the Kings Chamber (440HZ) to the Schumann Resonance. Anyone who has researched the HAARP phenomenon knows the base "frequency" of the planet has been rising since the Schumann Resonance was discovered. No one knows what the Schumann Resonance was when the Great Pyramids was built, nor does anyone even know WHEN the Great Pyramid at Giza was built. To conclude that the specific tuning of the Kings Chamber is an harmonic octave of the frequency of the earth is a false interpretation.

I submit there is a connection between this specific tuning, the symbols used by the elite (for instance the symbol of a pyramid on the back of the Yankee Dollar), and the control of the Mass of Humanity. This is where the evidential trail leads....

[Bill Ryan]

Ascension is an ancient concept and the Buddhist refer to it as entering into a state of nirvana.


It may very well be. I'd be interested to know what word the Buddhists actually used (i.e. how it was first translated into English). If you do know, please share it... I'd be intrigued.

As best I know, the English word 'Ascension' has Christian origins. Again, I don't know in what version of the Bible the term first appeared.

The problem with the word 'Ascension' as currently used (and misused!) in the New Age community is that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 101 different answers. This is a joke, but you get what I mean.

I buy the following ideas/ concepts:


Enlightenment / nirvana / samsara
Existence as a liberated spiritual being after body death
A general present-time raising of consciousness among people here on Planet Earth.

I do not buy:


Transcendence to another dimension (what dimension, and why?)
People suddenly physically disappearing (can anyone see how silly this is?)
The Earth 'dividing into two' - one Ascended Earth, and another not (again, why?)

I'd invite anyone here to identify the actual sources of these notions. (At least then we could look at who first suggested these ideas, and why.)

Re the Giza Pyramids (all three of them, presumably), I'd like to state on record here that I don't feel I know what their function was. I've read many theories, and am not yet definitively convinced by any of them. (It seems self-evident that they are far older than most Egyptologists believe.)

[morguana]

you are right bill, ascension is not a buddhist term


What Is Enlightenment?

The only true answer to the question "What is enlightenment?" is to realize enlightenment. Short of that, we must come up with provisional answers.

The English word enlightenment sometimes refers to heightened intellect and reason. This kind of enlightenment is a quality that can be cultivated or possessed. But enlightenment in the Buddhist sense is not a quality, and no one can possess it.

For this reason, many Buddhists are cautious about using the word enlightenment. The original Buddhists used the word bodhi, which means "awakened." The word Buddha is derived from bodhi and means "the awakened one." To be enlightened is to be awake to a Great Reality that most of us do not perceive. Some Zen teachers use the word realized in place of enlightened.
What Is Nirvana?

The Buddha told his monks that Nirvana cannot be imagined, and so there is no point speculating what it is like. Even so, it is a word that Buddhists use, so it needs some kind of definition.

The word Nirvana means "to extinguish," such as extinguishing the flame of a candle. Some schools explain Nirvana as a state of bliss or peace, and this state may be experienced in life, or it may be entered into at death. Other schools define it as oneness with the Absolute.
http://buddhism.about.com/od/enlightenmentandnirvana/a/bodhinirvana.htm
more can be found here http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/karma.html
love m

[observer]

It may very well be. I'd be interested to know what word the Buddhists actually used (i.e. how it was first translated into English). If you do know, please share it... I'd be intrigued.

As best I know, the English word 'Ascension' has Christian origins. Again, I don't know in what version of the Bible the term first appeared.

The problem with the word 'Ascension' as currently used (and misused!) in the New Age community is that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 101 different answers. This is a joke, but you get what I mean.

I buy the following ideas/ concepts:


Enlightenment / nirvana / samsara
Existence as a liberated spiritual being after body death
A general present-time raising of consciousness among people here on Planet Earth.

I do not buy:


Transcendence to another dimension (what dimension, and why?)
People suddenly physically disappearing (can anyone see how silly this is?)
The Earth 'dividing into two' - one Ascended Earth, and another not (again, why?)

I'd invite anyone here to identify the actual sources of these notions. (At least then we could look at who first suggested these ideas, and why.)

From my perspective: in 1961 I was exposed to the work of Edgar Cayce. After nearly fifty years of research into possibly hundreds of seers, clairvoyants, oracles, prophets, transmitters, remote viewers, channelers, and a myriad of other names one might apply to the phenomena, I've come to trust very little information implanted in the mind of another individual through the process of telepathic communication.

Bill, I think the sources of these notions has come to the Mass of Humanity - through the ages - in the form of dogma that has had one ultimate source. The evidence will show all forms of religion dating back into antiquity have been proposed by "prophets" and adopted by the Kings (at any given time in history) as a means to control the Masses. This template can be traced all the way back to Sumer.

The Containment of the Human Species has cleverly continued throughout the known recorded history of the Human Species. Through Sitchin's work, we discover it could possibly go back to the creation of Homo Sapiens some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago.

Through Maxwell and Icke (and many other "hard" researchers), we learn that a draconian reptilian species has controlled this planet since before the Dawn of Man. They have always controlled civilization here on this planet. They continue to control the Mass of Humanity. The evidential trail will lead one only to this conclusion.

They are very clever at what they do....


Re the Giza Pyramids (all three of them, presumably), I'd like to state on record here that I don't feel I know what their function was. I've read many theories, and am not yet definitively convinced by any of them. (It seems self-evident that they are far older than most Egyptologists believe.)

The Great Pyramid at Giza is the one I'm specifically speaking of in this Thread. I know very little about the other structures on the Giza plaza.

There is little, or no evidence (that I'm aware of) to show the Great Pyramid was used for the "ascension" process of individuals, or as a space launch pad, or any of the other preposterous proposals that have appeared in this Thread. The evidence will show it was a "machine" of some sort. I think the conclusions I've made about the properties of that machine are worth looking into....

[NeoEmc2]

I personally do not believe that the Great Pyramid was designed for what the OP says. Perhaps it was, but maybe it wasn't. There are many theories and that's just what they are, like someone else said, theories.

I happen to like what the Law of One (1982-84) states in regards to the real purpose of the pyramid. It makes more sense to me than anything I've seen or read regarding the Grate Pyramid.

I hope that this resonates with some of you as well. When I first read the Law of One books I was blown away. I highly recommend them because it puts so much into perspective about what is happening now.

This is from session 3, book 1. For the most part it's almost the entire session. It's missing the very beginning but it's irrelevant to the subject. If you are curious about the books, you can either buy them or download the PDF's from the publisher for free :)

http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx

PS: I would recommend starting with session one of book one because they do start asking about the pyramid from that session. More questions about the pyramid arise in later sessions in the books but they are more oriented towards the use of the king and queens chamber, amongst other things.

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Questioner: At the last session we had two questions that we were saving for this session: one having to do with the possible capstone on top of the Great Pyramid at Giza; the other having to do with how you moved the heavy blocks that make up the pyramid. I know these questions are of no importance with respect to the Law of One, but it was my judgment—and please correct me if I am wrong, and make the necessary suggestions—that this would provide an easy entry for those who would read the material that will eventually become a book. We are very grateful for your contact and will certainly take any suggestions as to how we should receive this
information.

Ra: I am Ra. I will not suggest the proper series of questions. This is your prerogative as free agent of the Law of One having learned/understood that our social memory complex cannot effectually discern the distortions of the societal mind/body/spirit complex of your peoples. We wish now to fulfill our teach/learning honor/responsibility by answering what is asked. This only will suffice for we cannot plumb the depths of the distortion complexes which infect your peoples. The first question, therefore, is the capstone. We iterate the unimportance of this type of data. The so-called Great Pyramid had two capstones. One was of our design and was of smaller and carefully contrived pieces of the material upon your planet which you call “granite.” This was contrived for crystalline properties and for the proper flow of your atmosphere via a type of what you would call “chimney.” At a time when we as a people had left your density, the original was taken away and a more precious one substituted. It consisted, in part, of a golden material. This did not change the properties of the pyramid, as you call it, at all, and was a distortion due to the desire of a few to mandate the use of the structure as a royal place only.

Do you wish to query further upon this first question?

Questioner: What did you mean by chimney? What was its specific purpose?

Ra: I am Ra. There is a proper flow of your atmosphere which, though small, freshens the whole of the structure. This was designed by having airflow ducts, as this instrument might call them, situated so that there was a freshness of atmosphere without any disturbance or draft.

Questioner: How were the blocks moved?

Ra: I am Ra. You must picture the activity within all that is created. The energy is, though finite, quite large compared to the understanding/distortion by your peoples. This is an obvious point well known to your people, but little considered. This energy is intelligent. It is hierarchical. Much as your mind/body/spirit complex dwells within a hierarchy of vehicles and retains, therefore, the shell or shape or field, and the intelligence of each ascendingly intelligent or balanced body, so does each atom of such a material as rock. When one can speak to that intelligence, the finite energy of the physical, or chemical rock/body is put into contact with that infinite power which is resident in the more well-tuned bodies, be they human or rock. With this connection made, a request may be given. The intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out through the displacement of the energy field of rock-ness from finity to a dimension which we may conveniently call, simply, infinity. In this way, that which is required is accomplished due to a cooperation of the infinite understanding of the Creator indwelling in the living rock. This is, of course, the mechanism by which many things are accomplished, which are not subject to your present means of physical analysis of action at a distance.

Questioner: I am reminded of the statement—approximately—that if you had faith to move a mountain, the mountain would move. This seems to be approximately what you were saying. That if you are fully aware of the Law of One, you would be able to do these things. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory distortion of sound, faith, is perhaps one of the stumbling blocks between those of what we may call the infinite path and those of the finite proving/understanding. You are precisely correct in your understanding of the congruency of faith and intelligent infinity; however, one is a spiritual term, the other more acceptable perhaps to the conceptual framework distortions of those who seek with measure and pen.

Questioner: Then if an individual is totally informed with respect to the Law of One and lives the Law of One, then such things as the building of the pyramids by direct mental effort would be commonplace. Is that what I am to understand?

Ra: I am Ra. You are incorrect in that there is a distinction between the individual power through the Law of One and the combined, or societal memory complex mind/body/spirit understanding of the Law of One. In the first case only the one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. In the case of mass understanding of unity, each individual may contain an acceptable amount of distortion and yet the mass mind could move mountains. The progress is normally from the understanding which you now seek to a dimension of understanding which is governed by the laws of love, and which seeks the laws of light. Those who are vibrating with the Law of Light seek the Law of One. Those who vibrate with the Law of One seek the Law of Foreverness. We cannot say what is beyond this dissolution of the unified self with all that there is, for we still seek to become all that there is, and still are we Ra. Thus our paths go onward.

Questioner: Was the pyramid then built by the mutual action of many?

Ra: I am Ra. The pyramids which we thought/built were constructed thought-forms created by our social memory complex.

Questioner: Then the rock was created in place rather than moved from some place else? Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. We built with everlasting rock the Great Pyramid, as you call it. Other of the pyramids were built with stone moved from one place to another.

Questioner: What is everlasting rock?

Ra: I am Ra. If you can understand the concept of thought-forms you will realize that the thought-form is more regular in its distortion than the energy fields created by the materials in the rock which has been created through thought form from thought to finite energy and being-ness in your, shall we say, distorted reflection of the level of the thought-form. May we answer you in any more helpful way?

Questioner: This is rather trivial, but I was wondering why the pyramid was built with many blocks rather than creating the whole thing as one form created at once?

Ra: I am Ra. There is a law which we believe to be one of the more significant primal distortions of the Law of One. That is the Law of Confusion. You have called this the Law of Free Will. We wished to make an healing machine, or time/space ratio complex which was as efficacious as possible. However, we did not desire to allow the mystery to be penetrated by the peoples in such a way that we became worshiped as builders of a miraculous pyramid. Thus it appears to be made, not thought.

Questioner: Well, then you speak of the pyramid, the Great Pyramid, I assume, as primarily a healing machine, and also you spoke of it as a device for initiation. Are these one and the same concept?

Ra: I am Ra. They are part of one complex of love/light intent/sharing. To use the healing properly it was important to have a purified and dedicated channel, or energizer, for the love/light of the infinite Creator to flow through; thus the initiatory method was necessary to prepare the mind, the body, and the spirit for service in the Creator’s work. The two are integral.

Questioner: Does the shape of the pyramid have a function in the initiation process?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a large question. We feel that we shall begin and ask you to re-evaluate and ask further at a later session, this somewhat, shall we say, informative point. To begin. There are two main functions of the pyramid in relation to the initiatory procedures. One has to do with the body. Before the body can be initiated, the mind must be initiated. This is the point at which most adepts of your present cycle find their mind/body/spirit complexes distorted from. When the character and personality that is the true identity of the mind has been discovered, the body then must be known in each and every way. Thus, the various functions of the body need understanding and control with detachment. The first use of the pyramid, then, is the going down into the pyramid for purposes of deprivation of sensory input so that the body may, in a sense, be dead and another life begin. We advise, at this time, any necessary questions and a fairly rapid ending of this session. Have you any query at this time/space?
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[observer]

[Edit Note:]

The text of this comment was moved to the bottom of the Abstract in the original post of this Thread as an update.

[observer]

If you haven't seen The Pyramid Code, I suggest checking it out. VERY interesting documentary about the falsities of what we're told is "history."

Here is part one: http://www.livevideo.com/video/ConspiracyCentral/3917AFBAE0CD425FA684A1F2352D3A1B/the-pyramid-code-2009-epis.aspx

The rest (I think there's 5 parts?) can easily be found online.

Thank you Moemers for your input. In an attempt to qualify the dialogue that has supported the conclusions of this thread I address your attention to a previous thread in the old forum:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20169

[observer]

[Edit Note:]

The text of this comment was moved to the bottom of the Abstract in the original post of this Thread as an update.

[heyokah]

Abstract:

“The Connection of 440Hz to the Containment of the Human Species; what was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

It has only been through the study of researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, and Zecharia Sitchin that I’ve come to realize the “gods" of antiquity were nothing more than a reptilian species of extra-dimensional entities that were actually responsible for the “creation” of Homo Sapiens.

This is well documented as the story of the Anunnaki in the Zecharia Sitchin material. These Same Draconian Reptiles have been responsible for the organization of our Human civilizations, and the continued manipulation of the evolution of our social structures – throughout recorded history.

One must realize, the intelligence capacity of Homo Sapiens has not changed considerably since we first appeared on the planet some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago. (generally, the accepted age of the species) The only thing that has changed over that span of time is the “understanding” of Humanity. The so-called “mythologies” were the best attempt of a primitive people to document what they were observing as events occurred, using the only concepts that were available at the time. The fact that reptiles – in one form or another – appear in the mythologies of indigenous people around the globe is evidence enough these “gods” (reptilian life forms) who apparently come from the Draco Star System have been controlling reality here for a very long time.

The evidential trail is overwhelming that these “demonic” forces have been continuously invoked through ritualistic ceremonies preformed by our ruling elite since the dawn of civilization. Call them “fallen angels”, demons, extraterrestrial aliens, extra-dimensional entities, or a myriad of other names, the fact remains these energies have been operating from behind the screen of smoke-and-mirrors of reality since Humanity first civilized.

The occult cabals that maintained an obvious control of our social structures throughout history have a direct link to these demonic forces through the rituals preformed in their secret meetings. What is the connection between the obsession with the symbology of ancient Egypt and these exclusive clubs for the elite? What were the mythological “gods” of antiquity doing to the Masses that were so important for the global elite to memorialize that activity in symbols? Why are these symbols on our currencies, corporate logos, military uniforms, foundational institutions of society, coats of arms of the global elite, etc.?

For me, it was a great revelation when, through the work of Dr. Leo Horowitz, I discovered the healing vibrations of the Solfeggio Music Scale. (see link at: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/solfeggiofrequencies.html)

I learned this healing vibrational scale was in use until the great classical masters such as, Mozart, and Bach were instrumental in abandoning this Solfeggio Scale for the more modern tuning of 440Hz Concert A.

I was already aware of the connection of these great “masters” with (what David Icke refers to as) the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. I immediately realized there was a connection to the conspiracy to abandon the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A) in favor of the 440Hz as an affront to Humanity. This conversion to 440Hz Concert A is really an entirely modern phenomenon – just in the past one hundred plus years. 417Hz has been the frequency used for the musical note A since antiquity. The abandon of the Solfeggio Scale for the more modern concert scales has had a dynamic effect on the healing vibrations of the music we listen to as a society. The conversion has been all about controlling the masses.

The effect of vibrations on what the Mass of Humanity perceives as real has everything to do with controlling the Mass of Humanity through the control of the frequencies of reality.

All material manifestation here in this particular third density is a complex combination of electromagnetic frequencies. The thousands of miles of DNA in our bodies are nothing more than frequency receptors – antennae. Humanities perception of reality is predicated by our body’s ability to receive frequencies and interpret those frequencies in our brains into what we perceive as material structure.

So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.

The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids….

Update
For those of you interested in following the dialogue that lead-up to this possibility, I direct you to two Threads at the old Avalon site. The following are a list of links to all of the pages of those Threads:

•Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section - Page 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

•The Giza Geomatrix exposure - Pge 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279
(follow the pages of the Threads from the links)


I'm adding this dialogue to this Thread so that anyone wanting to research a portion of the evidence that led to this discovery can do so.

Thank you for the Update

John Cadman's thread "Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section"

Richard Gabtiel's thread "The Giza Geomatris exposure"

Those two threads at the old Avalon site were very interesting indeed

[observer]

Thank you heyokah, for taking note of the update and bumping this Thread.

I was about to add an active link to the relevant parts of "The Pyramid Code" as well to this recent update, but you quoted the text prior to me having that opportunity.

Boulter, Dr. Carmen - The Pyramid Code Episode 1 - The Band Of Peace - The explanation of how frequencies were used in antiquity continues in this following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAqJWmkkboM&feature=related
(pay particular attention to what is said at 6:25 into the video, but please, watch the entire segment)

Boulter, Dr. Carmen - The Pyramid Code Episode 2 - High Level Technology -
Part 1 of 5 - http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/36201/The_Pyramid_Code_Ep2___High_Level_Technology_1_5/
Part 2 of 5 - http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/36202/The_Pyramid_Code_Ep2___High_Level_Technology_2_5/
Part 3 of 5 - http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/36203/The_Pyramid_Code_Ep2___High_Level_Technology_3_5/
Part 4 of 5 - http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/36204/The_Pyramid_Code_Ep2___High_Level_Technology_4_5/
....Or, was the energy that has been discovered used in a process to control the Masses? There is no evidence to support any of the theories presented in these videos [regarding the USE of these energies]. What is being suggested in this Abstract is yet another possibility


It's important to note, none of the referenced material, i.e. Christopher Dunn, "The Giza Power Plant", Dr. Carmen Boulter, "The Pyramid Code", or even John Cadman, "Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section" are supporting (within their work) the conclusions of this particular Abstract. The references, do however, suggest the Great Pyramid at Giza was "tuned" to a specific frequency.

No one has attempted to explain WHY this particular frequency of 440 Hz was used by the builders of that monument. This Abstract is an attempt to show the foundational understanding of why, and to help the reader further understand how our reality is (and always has) been manipulated....

[Carmody]

The recollection is that the Pyramid is activated through acoustical means, thus the key is carried anywhere the given being may be with no potential consequence of external knowledge, loss, or theft. A given shaft was opened that tuned the airmass to the right resonance, at the oscillatory frequency complementary to what we call the Schumann Frequency. Then the note is uttered strongly into the opened mouth of the shaft....and the system fires. (permanently shutting the system down involved blocking the shafts)

In older times, the frequency was more potent, with regard to planetary electrostatic, elctrogravatic and electromagnetic compliments. The note, uttered by larger chests than ours, overall...would then set the motor of the pyramid into a tight resonant oscillatory patten of energy exchange and motion (direction) and thus became an entry and exit point while it was in operation.

When activated.. a giant temporal pump/motor would come into action. Please note that the shape of energy that comes off the top of a pyramid is 'exactly so' as that of a DNA spiral.

Like the way that the given person's horoscope denotes the physicality and the ascendant of the horoscope denotes the kind of spirit and the doorway the spirit inhabiting perceives through....the clear transport and receiving of a given entity at the pyramid complex was reliant on it's specific location and design -on and at the given planetary surface.

I spoke in a different thread on the consideration of powerful manifestation and traveling down power lines as they have an energy field that surrounds them and a thus favorable zone within that 'rainbow' of energy (like that which spreads on the edge of a prism). Then comes the energy zones and hotspots of the earth (Becker-Hagens, etc). The acendant is the point where the dawn meets the horizon, and when the given person is born, the spirit is said to come in at that angle and point where the sun may be breaking the horizon, a rainbow of energy...and thus entry is favorable down a given 'line' of said rainbow of energy.

The pyramid is an ultimate extension of that.

Pyramid fact link (http://www.timstouse.com/EarthHistory/Egypt/GreatPyramid/interestingfacts.htm)

For example, a small pyramid shape with electrical transfer capacity can be constructed and then the interior filled with an electrically conductive fluid... and this system energized and resonated. (eg..copper or silver and salt water) The potency and correctness of the vortex spiral that comes off of the tip of such an arrangement is not to be underestimated.

[observer]

The recollection is that the Pyramid is activated through acoustical means....
I've searched the link you offered and can find nothing other than the generally understood scientific surveys that are covered within the links that have already been provided. Therefore, your link doesn't support your opening statement in your comment, and leaves the entire content to further scrutiny.

General Note to all readers: I appreciate any rational debate on this Thread, that you might have to offer, but please don't tell me you are deriving your information from some "channeled" source. Offering the drivel of telepathically transferred concepts is NOT what this thread is all about. The reader would understand that if he had reviewed the links offered within the OP's comments. Excuse me if the intention within this comment is anything other than this assumption.


A given shaft was opened that tuned the air mass to the right resonance, at the oscillatory frequency complementary to what we call the Schumann Frequency. Then the note is uttered strongly into the opened mouth of the shaft....and the system fires. (permanently shutting the system down involved blocking the shafts) .... The note, uttered by larger chests than ours, overall....

I would agree here, further investigation of the so called "shafts" is critical to understanding how this apparent "transmitter" worked. Like the HAARP project of modern times, the proposal postulated in this Abstract would include the use of the Schumann cavity in the same way the global elite are controlling the Masses with this black technology in today's social structure.

I would have to submit your suggestion that the "note is uttered strongly" into these shafts is far off-target. All evidence has indicated the chambers in which these shafts terminate, (i.e., The King's, and The Queen's) were the site of violent chemical reactions. The Queen's chamber was coated with a thick saline crystalline residue, and the King's chamber was charred in a black film - until both chambers were cleaned in recent history.


...would then set the motor of the pyramid into a tight resonant oscillatory patten of energy exchange and motion (direction) and thus became an entry and exit point while it was in operation. When activated.. a giant temporal pump/motor would come into action.

If you review the work of John Cadman (referenced in the link provided in the update to the Abstract) you will clearly understand that the resonant oscillator within this "machine" is located in the subterranean pit in the form of the "clapper" valve John describes. John's experiments with this are conclusive....

With respect to everything you have suggested regarding energy spirals, and their relationship to death and birth, I could make exactly the same argument in support of the proposal found within the Abstract for the formation of energy spirals. Simply look at what is emanating from the HAARP project. (see the Norway Spiral, atmospheric anomalies associated with alleged earthquake manipulation, and weather modification theories)

Your conjecture that this particular pyramid was used for anything other than what I'm proposing, holds no more validity than what has been submitted in this Abstract. The evidence that I'm proposing is founded in the specific "tuning" built into the construction itself. You might say, "etched in granite".

Thank you for your comment, however....

[Carmody]

My comments in this thread earned me a black helicopter flyover (definitely not the first time), and you want specifics. So who's not thinking things through, here? :)

edit: (It was apparently the local Seal type Team, I was told...but the timing was interesting.... methinks my return to forum posting has not gone unnoticed)

The point was you are supposed to not take my post seriously. And those who might find the odd interesting bit in it, maybe they will do so. :)

[Anchor]

- oops this had already been posted -

Mods please delete this post

[bluestflame]

"ascension " a little misleading , we came here to be here and carry the awareness of "home" an energetic blueprint if you will

I believe the pyramids were created to prevent humankind from being able to awaken enough to realize the illusion they had been birthed into , a holographic framework to both enslave and also capture the unwary

they are the anchoring points of energetic interference

at some point in the past the hold over the masses was broken with the theft of stuff from the pyramid generators that were no longer physically guarded

[heyokah]

I believe the pyramids were created to prevent humankind from being able to awaken enough to realize the illusion they had been birthed into , a holographic framework to both enslave and also capture the unwary

they are the anchoring points of energetic interference

Interesting what you say here "bluestflame"
I think that's what observer wants to point out in this ABSTRACT here.


So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.


If the Great Pyramid's base length is 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resides in the Kings Chamber, it will not have served humanity at all, as that would have been the case if it had been the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A)


The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids…. or at least one of the secrets .......?

[Kulapops]

I think.... underneath all that sand and stone.... is a giant piece of paper.

[heyokah]

I think.... underneath all that sand and stone.... is a giant piece of paper.

saying ?.........

Nah....that's too easy !!!:rolleyes::p

[JoshERTW]

Quote: "...so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses."

Who's to say what is disharmonious? When I play heavy rock and roll I feel completely in synch with the universe. Its almost like a shamanic experience to me when i really get into teh zone with a full band supporting me. even with just one other person playing I can get there.

Why is it that peoples definition of "harmonious" music has to entail weird single notes at specific frequencies and trippy binaural hemi-synch crap? I can see how this stuff is potentially effective as a tool - if you conciously choose to believe it works - but its not music, and having tried some of it out, I couldn't force myself to continue listening to it based on the very minimal meditative benefits it afforded me. I feel more in synch when I listen to Iron Maiden or Megadeth.

Sorry for the rant.

Back on topic, I think the pyramid is some sort of energetic anchor, or possibly a transmitter/reciever for energy. The fact that its on a grid point at the centroid of the planetary landmass certainly fuels my belief in this theory.

[MariaDine]

In The Only Planet of Free Choice by Phyllis Schlemner, trance channel Phyllis writes of her channellings with the nine Eloheim creators of Earth and they answer a number of her questions, about the pyramid.

The Giza pyramid and others like it were built a hundred and fifty years before the destruction of Atlantis, around 13,000 years ago. Further additions were made to the pyramid approximately 7,000 years to 12,000.

The nine said it took from beginning to completion approximately 6,000 years to build.] and it was said to have been built from the top downwards using lines of magnetic flux, this would make sense as a frequency or noise would need to be created underneath, see magnetics.
The pyramid has cracks in some of its support beams, and looks like it has had restoration work done at a later time, possibly the (Earthquake and resulting) flood that brought down Atlantis, the cracked tectonic plate may have affected the pyramid too. Possibly it had restoration work done on it and this is what they referred to.

The nine said that the Hoova, Ashan, Altea and Myrex civilizations designed the pyramid, but it was physically built by humans, the civilizations engineered the design and this knowledge was channelled on to humans.

The nine said the pyramid had several design features for the purposes of ;


1. Regeneration of cells in the chambers


2. Preservation of cells


3. Receiving channelled energy from the civilizations to Earth


4. Sending a spiral energy upward from Earth


5. Emitting energy to circulate Earth (which I understand to be the dragon lines/ley lines)

.......it continues .So ses More on ---------- http://theuniversalconnection.com/ThePyramid.aspx

[frank samuel]

Correct me if I'm wrong I remember Egypt as being one of the nations to publicly wanting to establish peaceful relations with Israel against the wishes of the other Arab countries, thus the assassination of Anwar Sadat.

In keeping in line with the theory that the real reason for the great pyramid of Giza to be constructed is to control the masses would it not make sense to say that Egypt should be the nation most affected by this technology thus being the most radical country, instead it is relatively peaceful in comparison to the rest of the Arab countries.

I do believe that there's a specific reason why there's so many pyramids all around the world , theories will abound until the real reason is discover.

Blessings to all.:thumb:

[Kulapops]

Planetary Acne ?

:0)

[frank samuel]

Planetary Acne ?

:0)

Kula what's your pledge for today ? Sorry !!! Could not resist !!! :focus:

[wynderer]

Abstract:

“The Connection of 440Hz to the Containment of the Human Species; what was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

It has only been through the study of researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, and Zecharia Sitchin that I’ve come to realize the “gods" of antiquity were nothing more than a reptilian species of extra-dimensional entities that were actually responsible for the “creation” of Homo Sapiens.

This is well documented as the story of the Anunnaki in the Zecharia Sitchin material. These Same Draconian Reptiles have been responsible for the organization of our Human civilizations, and the continued manipulation of the evolution of our social structures – throughout recorded history.

One must realize, the intelligence capacity of Homo Sapiens has not changed considerably since we first appeared on the planet some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago. (generally, the accepted age of the species) The only thing that has changed over that span of time is the “understanding” of Humanity. The so-called “mythologies” were the best attempt of a primitive people to document what they were observing as events occurred, using the only concepts that were available at the time. The fact that reptiles – in one form or another – appear in the mythologies of indigenous people around the globe is evidence enough these “gods” (reptilian life forms) who apparently come from the Draco Star System have been controlling reality here for a very long time.

The evidential trail is overwhelming that these “demonic” forces have been continuously invoked through ritualistic ceremonies preformed by our ruling elite since the dawn of civilization. Call them “fallen angels”, demons, extraterrestrial aliens, extra-dimensional entities, or a myriad of other names, the fact remains these energies have been operating from behind the screen of smoke-and-mirrors of reality since Humanity first civilized.

The occult cabals that maintained an obvious control of our social structures throughout history have a direct link to these demonic forces through the rituals preformed in their secret meetings. What is the connection between the obsession with the symbology of ancient Egypt and these exclusive clubs for the elite? What were the mythological “gods” of antiquity doing to the Masses that were so important for the global elite to memorialize that activity in symbols? Why are these symbols on our currencies, corporate logos, military uniforms, foundational institutions of society, coats of arms of the global elite, etc.?

For me, it was a great revelation when, through the work of Dr. Leo Horowitz, I discovered the healing vibrations of the Solfeggio Music Scale. (see link at: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/solfeggiofrequencies.html)

I learned this healing vibrational scale was in use until the great classical masters such as, Mozart, and Bach were instrumental in abandoning this Solfeggio Scale for the more modern tuning of 440Hz Concert A.

I was already aware of the connection of these great “masters” with (what David Icke refers to as) the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. I immediately realized there was a connection to the conspiracy to abandon the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A) in favor of the 440Hz as an affront to Humanity. This conversion to 440Hz Concert A is really an entirely modern phenomenon – just in the past one hundred plus years. 417Hz has been the frequency used for the musical note A since antiquity. The abandon of the Solfeggio Scale for the more modern concert scales has had a dynamic effect on the healing vibrations of the music we listen to as a society. The conversion has been all about controlling the masses.

The effect of vibrations on what the Mass of Humanity perceives as real has everything to do with controlling the Mass of Humanity through the control of the frequencies of reality.

All material manifestation here in this particular third density is a complex combination of electromagnetic frequencies. The thousands of miles of DNA in our bodies are nothing more than frequency receptors – antennae. Humanities perception of reality is predicated by our body’s ability to receive frequencies and interpret those frequencies in our brains into what we perceive as material structure.

So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.

The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids….

Update
For those of you interested in following the dialogue that lead-up to this possibility, I direct you to two Threads at the old Avalon site. The following are a list of links to all of the pages of those Threads:

•Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section - Page 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

•The Giza Geomatrix exposure - Pge 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279
(follow the pages of the Threads from the links)


I'm adding this dialogue to this Thread so that anyone wanting to research a portion of the evidence that led to this discovery can do so.

wow -- finally i found someone else who posts about Reptilians -- tho i don't agree they 'created' humans, & don't like it that Sitchin introduced them to the public as 'gods' [more of that manipulation of consciousness thru symbols/words, as i see it] -- i think they, & maybe other ETs, have been tinkering w/human DNA for a long long time-- lately they are saying they created humans, & are probably quite pleased w/the usual human gullibility , so many humans buying into 'ETs created us' -- Reptilians think it's fine to lie to humans

on the topic of pyramids -- just an historical tidbit here -- Napoleon spent a night alone in the King's Chamber of the pyramid at Giza, & was reported to have emerged white -faced & shaken, & would not discuss what happened w/anyone --

[Kulapops]

Kula what's your pledge for today ? Sorry !!! Could not resist !!! :focus:

:0)... Yes.. it's just that when you said.... 'there are these things all around the world'... I thought... yeah, kind of like pimples all over a teenage face....

that's probably how Bob (that's the Earth btw) feels about it.

On a slightly more serious note, I think it is impossible to know why they are there exactly... in which case, 'a giant paperweight' is probably no further from the real truth than some of the more 'serious' suggestions....

Is all I'm pointing out... in my own indomitable style ;)

With that... I'll leave you bigwigs to the serious stuff and leave this thread... while I get on with me chores...

Incidentally though... I'm reading an absolutely brilliant book at the mo called 'Inside the Neolithic Mind'... so if you want some insights into how our ancestors thought along very similar lines to how we do today.. whilst in some ways being closer to living their cosmological reality...go ahead and take a look at it... I'd really recommend it.

K

(p.s. Really glad you sorted that Fridge out Frank... that's recycling too! Very Bob-friendly... )

[Victoria Tintagel]

My contribution to this discussion, about the real purpose of the Great Pyramid of Gizeh, is an advise to read the book "Initiation" by Elisabeth Haich. You can find it as a free ebook at www.scribd.com I cannot upload it here as it exceeds the amount of kilobytes that are allowed, in attachments. The explanation that is given in this book, about the use and purpose of the Great Pyramid, is in essence an initiation purpose. Also the work of Drunvalo Melchizedek contains explanations on its purpose and use. These are just 2 sources of information that could offer pieces of the puzzle. I believe nowadays this initiation is free and open, available to anyone living in the heart. Lots of the Hocus Pocus stuff that was used in ancient times became corrupted, overtime, based on power, hierarchy and favors for the "oh so happy few". Does that sound familiar? We are gaining access to all of our lost heritage in self-responsible ways, I believe, without having to spend money on gurus and miracle performers, by strengthening our autonomy.

[bluestflame]

what if the pyramids were not placed upon the grids , but in thier placement they CREATED THIER OWN GRIDS and anchored the energetic control structure to be self sustaining harnessing the earths own energies

as a curious aside , aren't radio broadcasts at 440 Hz?

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/wwv_format.cfm

"The 440-Hz tone (the musical note A above middle C) is broadcast once each hour, during minute 2 on WWV, and minute 1 on WWVH. In addition to being a musical standard, the 440-Hz tone provides an hourly marker for chart recorders and other automated devices."

interesting coincidence , is the tone used to trigger electronic devices

[observer]

what if the pyramids were not placed upon the grids , but in thier placement they CREATED THIER OWN GRIDS and anchored the energetic control structure to be self sustaining harnessing the earths own energies

as a curious aside , aren't radio broadcasts at 440 Hz?

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/wwv_format.cfm

"The 440-Hz tone (the musical note A above middle C) is broadcast once each hour, during minute 2 on WWV, and minute 1 on WWVH. In addition to being a musical standard, the 440-Hz tone provides an hourly marker for chart recorders and other automated devices."

interesting coincidence , is the tone used to trigger electronic devices

Precisely the point of this thread, bluest.

440 Hz was not used as a standard for 'concert A' until only a few centuries ago, yet for some mysterious reason, the builders of the Great Pyramid at Giza incorporated that frequency into this structure at that location (thousands of years ago).

The question is WHY?

I believe we may both be on the same 'train of thought'....

[Wings]

come on guys, lets chill..........there are many theories on the pyramid, that is all they are for now....theories,
no one has actually come up with any working hypothesis as to the true function of this ancient building, so untill then its all pretty much guess work.

have read some very interesting books regarding this subject, will dig them out and post titles here for anyone wishing for an interesting read

The Giza Power Plant: Technologies of Ancient Egypt by Christopher Dunn http://www.amazon.co.uk/Giza-Power-Plant-Technologies-Ancient/dp/1879181509/ref=pd_sim_b_6
Beneath the Pyramids: Egypt's Greatest Secret Uncovered by Andrew Collins http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beneath-Pyramids-Egypts-Greatest-Uncovered/dp/0876045719/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278411033&sr=8-2
The Great Pyramid of Egypt, Miracle in Stone: Secrets and Advanced Knowledge by Joseph Augustus Seiss http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Pyramid-Egypt-Miracle-Stone/dp/1605064238/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278411357&sr=1-8

Here is another book some might find of interest on this topic: http://www.amazon.com/Initiation-Elisabeth-Haich/dp/0943358507

[observer]

.... [snip]

.... [snip]

Blessings to both Victoria and Wings.

I will not debate either of you regarding the possibility that the Great Pyramid at Giza was used as a chamber of initiation. There is no doubt initiations were conducted by the priests of secret cabals (otherwise known as 'The Babylonian Brotherhood' - David Icke's designation)

I will point you to a well documented trail of evidence that suggests these, so-called 'initiations', are (and have always been) for reasons of 'controlling the masses':

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret.htm#contents

I direct your attention to Chapter 1, page 1, fifth paragraph (beginning with the words: "In summery"). A complete reading of the book is highly recommended.

It is the purpose of this thread to explore the possibility this particular pyramid structure is a foundational part of the agenda proposed by David Icke....

[Wings]

I think Elizabeth Haich's book ' INITIATION' would be of interest here. I don't remember the particulars as I read it many years ago, but her story always stayed with me (it was a fascinating read ... at least it was back then). Her book contains some information about the Ark of the Covenant (which coincidentally, or not, I've been discussing with someone here via PM of late). The Ark was 'a device' used by a priest to bring her into a higher state of consciousness. As Elizabeth's book is essentially a recounting of a past life, I am inclined to believe the story is accurate.

It's certainly relevant to what you are discussing.

[gardunk]

To gt to another part of this discussion, the frequencies and Solfeggio, this has been batted around quite a bit but the more natural and adjustable frequency IMO is 432 HZ
see: http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi

[Gardener]

A few years ago I remember reading an article about 'West Kennet Longbarrow' in which some sound experiments were carried out in creating standing waves I am searching for that info now.
Interesting though speculative article on acoustics and the great pyramid
http://www.gardinersworld.com/content/view/101/39/

One thing that can be stated with certainty is that the shafts were of paramount importance to the Pyramid’s design. For, as Rudolf Gantenbrink has pointed out, their construction at precise sloping angles through the masonry, so calculated as to ensure their exit at the same height on the Pyramid’s central north-south axis, would have involved the builders in endless additional work, time, and energy.

Might acoustics be the answer to the conundrum?


gardiner nothing to do with me 'gardener'

[observer]

To gt to another part of this discussion, the frequencies and Solfeggio, this has been batted around quite a bit but the more natural and adjustable frequency IMO is 432 HZ
see: http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi

Thank you for your contribution, gardunk. Although your link doesn't work, here's an interesting article on the subject of 432 Hz: (thank you heyokah for offering this link)

http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter152/index.htm

I might point out (and attempt to keep this thread on topic) that regardless of what one believes regarding the Solfeggio scale and it's relationship to 432 Hz, the Great Pyramid at Giza was NOT tuned to either Solfeggio 'A' (at 417 Hz), nor was it tuned to 432 Hz. It was tuned to 440 Hz and in that fact lies the conundrum.

One might want to review these two comments to get up to speed on what I'm talking about:


The Giza Power Plant

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The Giza Power Plant

Thank you Swami for the vid.

If the readers take note, in the "Abstract" at the beginning of the thread, I referenced Christopher Dunn as the source for the information regarding the "tuning" of the Giza Pyramid to 440Hz.(fast forward the video to 44 minutes) Mr. Dunn's conclusions are not in synchronization with what I've proposed in the abstract. I don't believe Mr. Dunn is aware concert A was not changed to 440Hz until the 1700/1800's with the advent of classical music.

I might also add that Paul Horn has a very beautiful flute recording from within the Kings Chamber. Being a flute player myself, I'm aware there is no way to tune the entire instrument to 417Hz (Solfeggio A - thank you Mozart and Bach). The resonance of the structure of the Kings Chamber can be heard on that recording of the 440Hz (Concert A) tuning of Paul's flute.

This is simply further evidence the structure was purposely "tuned" to a frequency that DOES NOT resonate with the cellular structure of the Human Species. (source: Dr. Horowitz's material)....

[Update]

It might be noted: in the "Altered States" article (linked above and offered by heyokah) there is a reference to:


Quoted from the 'Altered States' article:....[snip]

Multiplications of 8 cycles gives one the significant 432 (54 x 8, and 3 x 72).
The number 432 is considered sacred in a majority of the major temple complexes
of this planet. For instance, one side of the Great Pyramid, Egypt, at its sea level
foundation, is 432 Earth Units (51.49 cm).

This information is in direct conflict with the observations of Christopher Dunn, who clearly states in his book, "The Giza Power Plant" that the Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz is resident in the Kings Chamber.

Since Christopher Dunn is the engineer, one might tend to favor his conclusions.

Also, it should be noted, all of the discussion concerning 432 Hz is based on an harmonic projection of an assumed Schumann Resonance of 8 Hz. No one knows what the Schumann Resonance of the Earth was when the Cheops Pyramid was constructed. Since the (relatively recent) discovery of the Schumann Resonance it has been increasing. I believe the reports are now in the area of 11 Hz.

[observer]

....[snip]

Thank you Gardener for your interest in this topic.

After reviewing your link, I find the information parallels the conclusions of Christopher Dunn, whose work has been referenced throughout this thread.

It was through Christopher Dunn's work that I reached the conclusions within the Abstract at the beginning of this thread.

[bluestflame]

speaking of acoustics ....

http://www.lenardaudio.com/education/images/a04/a04_operahouse.jpg


http://www.lenardaudio.com/education/04_acoustics_3.html

[nomadguy]

I know this may appear out of left field a bit ~ no matter

I listened to this radio show from C2C - http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/03/03

And so then a discussion began,

~~~
If the pyramid was indeed "capped" say with gold as some have theorized. It can also be observed that,
the ancient kings of egypt were involved in a daily ritual with the stars.
additionally ~ the king or initiate or "volunteer" would go up a stair path to the top of the pyramid in-synch with the sun so that the person would reach the top of the pyramid at zenith ~near noon.
And the person whom is doing this has been saturated with monatomic gold. And they do this every day... why?

One idea is this, Sending our genome code into the stars through a maximum capacitor.

And
If all the peoples of this kingdom existed below the gold capped pyramid,
and then always in place during peak solar rays is a person perhaps one whom has undergone or "came out of" a long line of breeding rituals or as we might say today _breeding programs with the saturation throughout the body cells with a magnification particle that is fractal.
~through some method using monatomic gold.
the idea of fractal fields or "maximum sharing and optimum position" and implosion mechanics come into frame...

ANd that perhaps this was a bonafide human attempt to leap a person or "everyone below the cap" into evolution.

and that is about where we stopped, ~ comments are appreciated.

[KosmicKat]

Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

It seems to me that a little clarification about the nature of harmony (and her corollary, disharmony) could profitably be inserted here: harmony as I have always understood it with regard to vibratory frequencies refers to vibrations that are in sympathy, the term commonly used to describe frequencies which relate to one another proportionally so that the greater can be divided by the lesser without remainder. A good demonstration would be plucking two guitar strings which are almost tuned in unison so that you can hear the "beating", the rhythmical difference between the two waveforms.

Has anyone looked into the connection between music performed using the solfeggio tunings (UT – 396 Hz, RE – 417 Hz, MI – 528 Hz &c.) and the Church Modes?

According to the theorist Guido D'Arezzo, the modes invoked the following characteristics:

Dorian - Seriousness
Hypodorian - Sadness
Phrygian - Mysticism
Hypophrygian - Resolution of disagreements
Lydian - Happiness
Hypolydian - Devotion
Mixolydian - The presence of the angelic
Hypomixolydian - Perfection



Being a flute player myself, I'm aware there is no way to tune the entire instrument to 417Hz (Solfeggio A - thank you Mozart and Bach).

Again, a little clarification if we may? You could tune your flute so that the A sounds at 417Hz and other notes sound correct to a western-trained ear*, though not all notes would harmonize with that A.

*allowing for the pythagorean comma, which introduces a tiny, but significant difference between octaves.


Personally I think the pyramid doesn't have but one purpose.
It is a high-tech ancient looking extremely multi purpose building.

This possibility seems much more likely to me, if there is a connection with the designers of the DNA molecule; as I understand it, while there are specific genes that activate particular features, many of our genes also regulate more than one feature making DNA manipulation something of a juggling act.

[observer]

....[snip]

Two points of clarification are in order here, KosmicKat.

1. If one were to review the Dr. Horowitz material on the use of the word 'harmony' and its relationship to the positive effects of the Solfeggio musical scale to the human body, one would gain a better understanding of the semantics involved in the use of the word harmony, here.
2. When the modern flute is tuned to Solfeggio 'A' (417 Hz) none of the other notes (or most of) don't tune to the other frequencies within the Solfeggio scale. The modern 'C' flute is engineered to 'tune-up' to the modern Concert 'A' (440 Hz - based) musical scale.

[Deega]

Abstract:

“The Connection of 440Hz to the Containment of the Human Species; what was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

It has only been through the study of researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, and Zecharia Sitchin that I’ve come to realize the “gods" of antiquity were nothing more than a reptilian species of extra-dimensional entities that were actually responsible for the “creation” of Homo Sapiens.

This is well documented as the story of the Anunnaki in the Zecharia Sitchin material. These Same Draconian Reptiles have been responsible for the organization of our Human civilizations, and the continued manipulation of the evolution of our social structures – throughout recorded history.

One must realize, the intelligence capacity of Homo Sapiens has not changed considerably since we first appeared on the planet some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago. (generally, the accepted age of the species) The only thing that has changed over that span of time is the “understanding” of Humanity. The so-called “mythologies” were the best attempt of a primitive people to document what they were observing as events occurred, using the only concepts that were available at the time. The fact that reptiles – in one form or another – appear in the mythologies of indigenous people around the globe is evidence enough these “gods” (reptilian life forms) who apparently come from the Draco Star System have been controlling reality here for a very long time.

The evidential trail is overwhelming that these “demonic” forces have been continuously invoked through ritualistic ceremonies preformed by our ruling elite since the dawn of civilization. Call them “fallen angels”, demons, extraterrestrial aliens, extra-dimensional entities, or a myriad of other names, the fact remains these energies have been operating from behind the screen of smoke-and-mirrors of reality since Humanity first civilized.

The occult cabals that maintained an obvious control of our social structures throughout history have a direct link to these demonic forces through the rituals preformed in their secret meetings. What is the connection between the obsession with the symbology of ancient Egypt and these exclusive clubs for the elite? What were the mythological “gods” of antiquity doing to the Masses that were so important for the global elite to memorialize that activity in symbols? Why are these symbols on our currencies, corporate logos, military uniforms, foundational institutions of society, coats of arms of the global elite, etc.?

For me, it was a great revelation when, through the work of Dr. Leo Horowitz, I discovered the healing vibrations of the Solfeggio Music Scale. (see link at: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/solfeggiofrequencies.html)

I learned this healing vibrational scale was in use until the great classical masters such as, Mozart, and Bach were instrumental in abandoning this Solfeggio Scale for the more modern tuning of 440Hz Concert A.

I was already aware of the connection of these great “masters” with (what David Icke refers to as) the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. I immediately realized there was a connection to the conspiracy to abandon the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A) in favor of the 440Hz as an affront to Humanity. This conversion to 440Hz Concert A is really an entirely modern phenomenon – just in the past one hundred plus years. 417Hz has been the frequency used for the musical note A since antiquity. The abandon of the Solfeggio Scale for the more modern concert scales has had a dynamic effect on the healing vibrations of the music we listen to as a society. The conversion has been all about controlling the masses.

The effect of vibrations on what the Mass of Humanity perceives as real has everything to do with controlling the Mass of Humanity through the control of the frequencies of reality.

All material manifestation here in this particular third density is a complex combination of electromagnetic frequencies. The thousands of miles of DNA in our bodies are nothing more than frequency receptors – antennae. Humanities perception of reality is predicated by our body’s ability to receive frequencies and interpret those frequencies in our brains into what we perceive as material structure.

So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.

The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids….

Update
For those of you interested in following the dialogue that lead-up to this possibility, I direct you to two Threads at the old Avalon site. The following are a list of links to all of the pages of those Threads:

•Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section - Page 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

•The Giza Geomatrix exposure - Pge 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279
(follow the pages of the Threads from the links)


I'm adding this dialogue to this Thread so that anyone wanting to research a portion of the evidence that led to this discovery can do so.

Thanks Observer,

Yes!, very interesting and I will share some insight on this. I have been reading for the last two months Anton Parks Chronicles, you will like what he has produced. He goes further than Zacharia Stichin has done, it is a must read.

Unfortunately, Anton Parks is a frenchman, I'm not sure if he had translated his work yet.

All my blessings.

Deega

[mcaballero]

Just play back all your music at 94.77% of original speed, and you will convert 440 Hz to 417 Hz. Excuse me for my ignorance, but it doesn't sound too different!

[ulli]

I think the real purpose was to ASTONISH US and make us WONDER what historical interpretation to believe.

[heyokah]

Abstract:

“The Connection of 440Hz to the Containment of the Human Species; what was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

It has only been through the study of researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, and Zecharia Sitchin that I’ve come to realize the “gods" of antiquity were nothing more than a reptilian species of extra-dimensional entities that were actually responsible for the “creation” of Homo Sapiens.

This is well documented as the story of the Anunnaki in the Zecharia Sitchin material. These Same Draconian Reptiles have been responsible for the organization of our Human civilizations, and the continued manipulation of the evolution of our social structures – throughout recorded history.

One must realize, the intelligence capacity of Homo Sapiens has not changed considerably since we first appeared on the planet some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago. (generally, the accepted age of the species) The only thing that has changed over that span of time is the “understanding” of Humanity. The so-called “mythologies” were the best attempt of a primitive people to document what they were observing as events occurred, using the only concepts that were available at the time. The fact that reptiles – in one form or another – appear in the mythologies of indigenous people around the globe is evidence enough these “gods” (reptilian life forms) who apparently come from the Draco Star System have been controlling reality here for a very long time.

The evidential trail is overwhelming that these “demonic” forces have been continuously invoked through ritualistic ceremonies preformed by our ruling elite since the dawn of civilization. Call them “fallen angels”, demons, extraterrestrial aliens, extra-dimensional entities, or a myriad of other names, the fact remains these energies have been operating from behind the screen of smoke-and-mirrors of reality since Humanity first civilized.

The occult cabals that maintained an obvious control of our social structures throughout history have a direct link to these demonic forces through the rituals preformed in their secret meetings. What is the connection between the obsession with the symbology of ancient Egypt and these exclusive clubs for the elite? What were the mythological “gods” of antiquity doing to the Masses that were so important for the global elite to memorialize that activity in symbols? Why are these symbols on our currencies, corporate logos, military uniforms, foundational institutions of society, coats of arms of the global elite, etc.?

For me, it was a great revelation when, through the work of Dr. Leo Horowitz, I discovered the healing vibrations of the Solfeggio Music Scale. (see link at: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/solfeggiofrequencies.html)

I learned this healing vibrational scale was in use until the great classical masters such as, Mozart, and Bach were instrumental in abandoning this Solfeggio Scale for the more modern tuning of 440Hz Concert A.

I was already aware of the connection of these great “masters” with (what David Icke refers to as) the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. I immediately realized there was a connection to the conspiracy to abandon the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A) in favor of the 440Hz as an affront to Humanity. This conversion to 440Hz Concert A is really an entirely modern phenomenon – just in the past one hundred plus years. 417Hz has been the frequency used for the musical note A since antiquity. The abandon of the Solfeggio Scale for the more modern concert scales has had a dynamic effect on the healing vibrations of the music we listen to as a society. The conversion has been all about controlling the masses.

The effect of vibrations on what the Mass of Humanity perceives as real has everything to do with controlling the Mass of Humanity through the control of the frequencies of reality.

All material manifestation here in this particular third density is a complex combination of electromagnetic frequencies. The thousands of miles of DNA in our bodies are nothing more than frequency receptors – antennae. Humanities perception of reality is predicated by our body’s ability to receive frequencies and interpret those frequencies in our brains into what we perceive as material structure.

So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.

The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids….

Update
For those of you interested in following the dialogue that lead-up to this possibility, I direct you to two Threads at the old Avalon site. The following are a list of links to all of the pages of those Threads:

•Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section - Page 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

•The Giza Geomatrix exposure - Pge 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279
(follow the pages of the Threads from the links)


I'm adding this dialogue to this Thread so that anyone wanting to research a portion of the evidence that led to this discovery can do so.

Thanks Observer,

Yes!, very interesting and I will share some insight on this. I have been reading for the last two months Anton Parks Chronicles, you will like what he has produced. He goes further than Zacharia Stichin has done, it is a must read.

Unfortunately, Anton Parks is a frenchman, I'm not sure if he had translated his work yet.

All my blessings.

Deega

Found some translated work: THE CHRONICLES OF THE GÍRKÙ
Quoted materials from Books, Interviews and Communications by Anton Parks

Maybe it will be of some use....

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/secret_darkstars/secret_darkstars.htm

[observer]

Just play back all your music at 94.77% of original speed, and you will convert 440 Hz to 417 Hz. Excuse me for my ignorance, but it doesn't sound too different!

I'm not sure your theory would be true for ALL of the frequencies with the Solfeggio scale, mcaballero. I've no way to test your theory.

I might point-out, this thread is NOT about how to convert any musical scale to some other musical scale.

It is about WHY the Great Pyramid at Giza (The Cheops Pyramid) was construction by its builders with the particular tuning of 440 Hz. There is a specific reason this was done.

I have already stipulated to the observations that this particular structure could have been constructed for a myriad of other reasons, a power generator being among the many of other possibilities. None of the research I've seen has addressed the issue of the 'tuning' of this particular structure, and a plausible explanation as to why 440 Hz might have been selected. This discussion is directed at that particular issue.

[observer]

Abstract:

“The Connection of 440Hz to the Containment of the Human Species; what was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”
....[snip]

Thanks Observer,

Yes!, very interesting and I will share some insight on this. I have been reading for the last two months Anton Parks Chronicles, you will like what he has produced. He goes further than Zacharia Stichin has done, it is a must read.

Unfortunately, Anton Parks is a frenchman, I'm not sure if he had translated his work yet.

All my blessings.

Deega

Thank you Deega for your attempted contribution in this thread.

As the OP in this thread I must point your attention to this comment:

....[snip] to see quoted text, click-on the forwarding arrow

OPs Note to Commenters:
I started this thread to gain further input from any member who might have 'credible evidence' (either pro, or con) to support (or reject) the theory laid-out in the abstract in the original post of this thread.

I'm looking for evidence from the archaeological record, interviews of first person accounts, references from documented written text, or any evidence that may be 'reproducible' in content.

Anyone can write a book concerning what the 'voices in their head' are telling them. Some of these books can be quite entertaining. None of this sort of information is relevant to this thread....

[Lord Sidious]

Unfortunately, Anton Parks is a frenchman

Everyone has their burden.

[slipknotted]

i also believe it gave knowledge, a temple for infomation a learning center with out spoken means, plug yourself in if your vibration was right.

[observer]

Below is a quote from another thread. In response to some 'back room' communication with Deega, I thought it appropriate to re-post that comment here for further clarification:


The generally accepted geographic border between what is known as the Upper Kingdom and the Lower Kingdom is in the area of Cairo at the beginning of the Nile Delta. The Lower Kingdom which was the dominant culture in predynastic Egypt was a relatively small geographical area covering the Nile Delta.

The Upper Kingdom (theoretically) stretched for the remaining length of the Nile. Which, in antiquity, extended well over 6,000 miles (9,700 km+). Tectonic activity in the African Riff Valley has shortened the reach of the headwaters of the Nile approximately 900 miles (1,500 km+)

(Source reading) - here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Egypt
(And) - here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nile

No one has researched when the Lower Kingdom was taken-over by the light skinned Mediterranean inhabitants. Modern Egyptologists have always assumed the dominant Lower Kingdom inhabitants were the 'builders' of the complex at Giza.

Recent investigations have speculated the construction of the Spinx structure to 35,000 years ago (possibly to even 70,000 years). Whatever the truth, the Sphinx is much older than modern Egyptologists are willing to accept - as could also be the situation with the Cheops Pyramid.

(Source reading) - here: http://www.morien-institute.org/sphinx.html

Since Michael Tillinger's discovery of an (200,000 thousand year old) ancient 'gold mining' civilization located within relatively close proximity (geographically) to the headwaters of the Nile, it is not inconceivable these ancient humans migrated down the Nile to populate the entire Nile valley over the course of this 200,000 year span of time.

Source reading) - here: http://viewzone2.com/adamscalendarx.html
(Source video) - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8nMJCO3nyg

It is also not inconceivable to imagine these (Nubian) ancestors were used as the labor to build the monumental structures found all along the Nile Valley - assuming Sitchin's interpretations of the Sumerian clay tablets are correct, and 'The Gods Who Came Down' created the human species as slave labor and further controlled the evolution of civilizations. (accepting the understanding the Sumerian records were discovered in a completely different river valley) It should also be noted the ancient Egyptian word for gold was 'nub'.

Two hundred thousand years of human evolution is a LONG TIME. When one comes to the realization that one common element has directed the course of human evolution over that span of time, an entirely NEW perspective is introduced into the Big Picture.

They are very clever at what they do....

[Lifebringer]

I was unable to reply to the Giza pyramid link. Don't know why, hopefully wll find my way to it. I even logged in properly. perhaps because it was pop up link page, they wouldn't accept the answer as I was on Avalon in another tab.

???

[ghostrider]

I feel it's part of martian technology/culture that says we were here. could be their version of a gravestone.

[Lifebringer]

I have stress related disease and could sure use a strong dose of peaceful healing in my body.
9 children two still home under age. They're are a blessing t be sure, but like God with is Sons, sometime you got to let the young lead the way, when your forget how to dream after being the prodigal son of materialism.

No I am definately not rich, quite the contrary. It wore my body and eventually my mind down working doubles and takng care of them all. They purged my name from voter list in Bush's election. They took the only thing that tied me to this country as a patriot who's family has been here first in chains, then on the Res since 1704. Seen a lot in my 52 years, but didn't see that coming.
Just didn't compute, and I was in a foggy limbo, until I started paying attention and watching what was going on that caused that voter intimidationary republican tactic of disenfranchisement. Phew! Like on Pretty Woman. I don't hate what they have tried to do, I forgive them wholeheartedly, and because of it, the red pill was my choice.

Any links to the actual sound? tones? I can listen to. Why is it you have to always pay for knowledge to heal thyself with something. Jesus did it for free. We should be practicing that and thankiing God for the knowledge.

[observer]

....[snip] Any links to the actual sound? tones? I can listen to....[snip]

Somewhat off-topic Lifebringer, but here's a thread you might want to review:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7216-Forgotten-In-Time-The-Ancient-Solfeggio-Frequencies

Also here's a couple of websites with soundtracks of the tones:
(thank you heyokah for these links)

http://www.soundsofyouth.com/index.html
http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm

[Wings]

Anyone can write a book concerning what the 'voices in their head' are telling them. Some of these books can be quite entertaining. None of this sort of information is relevant to this thread....

To label a book that one has most likely not read as just "quite entertaining" is possibly ignoring a valuable, truthful, accurate ‘firsthand account’; even if, by the laws of current human possibility, it is only ‘a memory’ of a distant past. Those who provided that information to you did so in answer to the original question posed, although I see you have SINCE edited your original post to clarify what sources of information you now consider ‘irrelevant’ to this thread.

To the question you posed – What was the real purpose of the great pyramid of Giza? – you do not, nor does anyone else, own the truth.

We have to be careful and discerning about any information that cannot be confirmed/proved, but those who are wise are also open .... only in seeking this way might we connect the dots to get to the truth.

[observer]

....[snip]
To the question you posed – What was the real purpose of the great pyramid of Giza? – you do not, nor does anyone else, own the truth....[snip]

There are well established guidelines to what is considered acceptable sources of evidence within the context of any scientific investigation, Wings. An individuals 'resonance' with - what would otherwise be characterized as - the figment of some one's imagination, is not within the context of those established guidelines. I have already addressed the point of your comment in previous text, which can be found here:



It may very well be. I'd be interested to know what word the Buddhists actually used (i.e. how it was first translated into English). If you do know, please share it... I'd be intrigued.

As best I know, the English word 'Ascension' has Christian origins. Again, I don't know in what version of the Bible the term first appeared.

The problem with the word 'Ascension' as currently used (and misused!) in the New Age community is that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 101 different answers. This is a joke, but you get what I mean.

I buy the following ideas/ concepts:


Enlightenment / nirvana / samsara
Existence as a liberated spiritual being after body death
A general present-time raising of consciousness among people here on Planet Earth.

I do not buy:


Transcendence to another dimension (what dimension, and why?)
People suddenly physically disappearing (can anyone see how silly this is?)
The Earth 'dividing into two' - one Ascended Earth, and another not (again, why?)

I'd invite anyone here to identify the actual sources of these notions. (At least then we could look at who first suggested these ideas, and why.)

From my perspective: in 1961 I was exposed to the work of Edgar Cayce. After nearly fifty years of research into possibly hundreds of seers, clairvoyants, oracles, prophets, transmitters, remote viewers, channelers, and a myriad of other names one might apply to the phenomena, I've come to trust very little information implanted in the mind of another individual through the process of telepathic communication.

Bill, I think the sources of these notions has come to the Mass of Humanity - through the ages - in the form of dogma that has had one ultimate source. The evidence will show all forms of religion dating back into antiquity have been proposed by "prophets" and adopted by the Kings (at any given time in history) as a means to control the Masses. This template can be traced all the way back to Sumer.

The Containment of the Human Species has cleverly continued throughout the known recorded history of the Human Species. Through Sitchin's work, we discover it could possibly go back to the creation of Homo Sapiens some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago.

Through Maxwell and Icke (and many other "hard" researchers), we learn that a draconian reptilian species has controlled this planet since before the Dawn of Man. They have always controlled civilization here on this planet. They continue to control the Mass of Humanity. The evidential trail will lead one only to this conclusion.

They are very clever at what they do....


Re the Giza Pyramids (all three of them, presumably), I'd like to state on record here that I don't feel I know what their function was. I've read many theories, and am not yet definitively convinced by any of them. (It seems self-evident that they are far older than most Egyptologists believe.)

The Great Pyramid at Giza is the one I'm specifically speaking of in this Thread. I know very little about the other structures on the Giza plaza.

There is little, or no evidence (that I'm aware of) to show the Great Pyramid was used for the "ascension" process of individuals, or as a space launch pad, or any of the other preposterous proposals that have appeared in this Thread. The evidence will show it was a "machine" of some sort. I think the conclusions I've made about the properties of that machine are worth looking into....


To suggest only the '"wise" are "open" to all points of information (regardless the source) is not within the spirit of objective investigation. My attempt in this thread is to conduct an investigation in which the evidence presented would hold-up under the scrutiny of legitimate researchers.

I read enough of the translated material from Anton Parks to determine the 'book in question' was derived from channeled material. These are not "memories" this author is speaking of, the source of this information is from telepathically transmitted thoughts.

Yes, I have added an update to the original post in an attempt to keep this thread (my thread - by the way) on target. As the originator of this thread I welcome any input that can be used in a legitimate investigation.

Please, lets try to keep this thread on target....

[observer]

Upon further investigation into what Christopher Dunn has proposed regarding the hypothesis that the Cheops structure was some sort of 'machine',
And, in conjunction with Dr. Joseph Farrell's conclusion that this structure was an ancient weapon,
And further, in light of the observations found within the 'Abstract' at the beginning of this thread,
Therefore, there is conclusive evidence that the resonance of 440 Hz found within this structure is in direct relationship with both Dunn's and Farrell's conclusions.
There is far more evidence pointing to the sinister use of this structure beyond that of merely being a machine designed to control the masses.


Fast forward to Dr. Joseph Farrell's compelling evidence on 'The Giza Death Star' triligoy:

Farrell, Dr. Joseph - 'The Giza Death Star' - http://books.google.com/books?id=nzaiviPoS5oC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=OhWPHVDLsS&sig=z2Bl95XTlkZpSXZ5iOT9_N-mw7E&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CGwQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q&f=false
[update note:]If one does nothing else with this research, at least read the preface to this, 'The Giza Death Star' text.

Farrell, Dr. Joseph - 'The Giza Death Star Deployed' - http://books.google.com/books?id=1yPOhLagyaAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=np_WVH26aw&sig=k1XNoKyi-8uzDDktEvhSIfEWEFU&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=13&ved=0CG8Q6AEwDA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Farrell, Dr. Joseph - The Giza Death Star Destroyed' - http://books.google.com/books?id=_gc9RexD2PcC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=uhHeOewjyp&sig=RFpFbT-X16DJzgDVfjkEeaZa4MM&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q&f=false

Here's a very interesting 'Red Ice' interview that sums-up the Giza Death Star research: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgNt-FPtq0&feature=related

More can be found on Dr. Farrell's work at this Project Camelot interview:

Dr. Joseph Farrell - Project Camelot interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJboIFKCFU

[bluestflame]

I been fishing ,


"THE GIZA DEATH STAR, DOES IT STILL WORK? THE LONG ANSWER"
http://gizadeathstar.com/2006/10/the-giza-death-star-does-it-still-work-the-long-answer/

"OCTOBER 25, 2006 BY JOSEPH P. FARRELL 11 COMMENTS
Over the past few months I’ve appeared on some radio talk shows and once or twice in those shows’ dedicated chat rooms, discussing my books. One question that seems to recur whenever I am interviewed about my Weapon Hypothesis for the Great Pyramid is, Does it still work? Could it be reactivated by someone? or variations on that theme.
Usually my answer on those occasions has been something like this: “No, for the simple reason that many of the internal components of the machine/weapon are missing, either through removal or destruction.” That, unfortunately, is the short answer, the sort of answer one gives under the time constraints of talk shows.
The “long answer” is somewhat different, and answering it requires the care of a soldier or warship negotiating a cunningly laid mine field. And like everything else in the Weapon Hypothesis, it is a highly speculative answer. In a nutshell, what remains of the Great Weapon at Giza, the current Great Pyramid, is but a shell, a part of that awesome and very ancient machine. As Dunn and I have pointed out, it is naturally resonant to the Schumann cavity resonance of the earth. This means that, in some sense, it is still functioning."

[observer]

I been fishing....[snip]As Dunn and I have pointed out, it is naturally resonant to the Schumann cavity resonance of the earth. This means that, in some sense, it is still functioning."

Yes blue, thank you for pointing that out.

I've been reading Dr. Farrell quite extensively since I posted those (above - comment #73) links to his books. The evidence he is presenting is unquestionable as it is all derived from the archaeological record.

I might point-out the resonance of 440 Hz found within the Giza structure is an even multiplier of the Schumann Resonance (historic) of 8 Hz.

I might also point-out Dr. Farrell and Richard Hoagland have teamed-up on several radio interviews and the evidence the two of them are presenting together is staggering....

Farrell, Joseph P.: Coast to Coast Interview - Secrets Of The Unified Field -
(listen from here)
Part 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvnQj5Tot5w&feature=related
Part 9 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S2UgS4RcyA&feature=related
Part 10 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_7j9yA_Oj4&feature=related
Part 11 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OhCiENjLkw&feature=related

.... But (by all means) listen to the entire interview.

[Ahkenaten]

Also of interest in this regard is the life and work of Serbian genuis Nikola Tesla.......................Tesla's work was based on his belief that the earth and the "ether" underpinning reality are packed densely with energy - so much energy that there is an endlessly abundant source of free power available for those wise enough to unlock the secrets. The physics for this energy are radically different than the model Einstein posed upon which most of the VISIBLE technology and science today is based. (Obviously I am not referring to the many black projects here that may well be based on another physics paradigm altogether - i.e. an "open" as opposed to a "closed" system!) The problem is that this power is so massive, so explosive, that those accessing it can also use it for evil, destructive purposes. And this is why these technologies are kept secret................and yet, why should secretive groups be entrusted with the key to Pandora's Box either?? It is my belief that the Great Pyramid was a harmonic resonator or cavitron, and could have been used as a power source - even for interstellar travel - OR for a resonator weapon of terrifying force. And, it may well have been deployed - and then "decommissioned" as punishment by unknown parties.

It may be that humans must consciously "evolve" to a higher level to be able to actually use such technologies for anything other than destructive purposes.

Are we up to that challenge?

[observer]

.... [snip]

Yes, Akhenaten, and thank you for your positive contribution.

To sum-up what you've said, this is exactly the interpretation of Dr. Joseph Farrell.

I would suggest anyone wishing further clarification to read the (free) books I've linked in my post #73, above.....

[Ahkenaten]

and PA/Camelot also interviewed Farrell and it may be found on You Tube or in the archives..........................

[bluestflame]

i posed the theory that perhaps the various "henges" and other stone formations were setup as a means to counteract the effects of the giza pyramide device ? ...it does seem to be built to resist attempted destruction like a fortification

[Ahkenaten]

Or (among many possibilities) the henges and other stone constructions were also resonators...............for what purpose I do not know. Someone knew very well that stone, especially granite, has certain crystalline resonant properties.......................this is a little off topic but it appears that at the top of Mayan pyramids there were "comblike" stone carvings somewhat resembling antennae. It might be that the stone has properties that could be tapped for communication purposes. And this is REALLY getting a little woo-woo, but clay (of which supposedly humans were "made" by the Creator) is comprised of silica, and can be considered to be 'alive' in that its crystalline structures actually replicate and "grow" similar to the ways silicon crystals are grown in factories and sliced to be used as the basis of modern computer technology. Sorry for going off the tracks here..............

Anyway to bring this back on-track, the Great Pyramid at Giza certainly has interesting granite components, especially inside...........and the stones themselves appear to have been "tuned" in place for a particular purpose.

[observer]

Since this thread is all about discovery of hard physical evidence proving the 'control of the human species'....
And, since the work of Dr. Joseph Farrell, and Richard Hoagland have been introduced into this evidential trail (see comments #73 and #75)....
Any members wishing further clarification of this evidence is advised to listen to this recent Red Ice interview:



Richard C. Hoagland | The Secret Space Program & The Fukushima Nuclear Reactor Disaster

Source: redicecreations.com (http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/03/RIR-110320.php), enterprisemission.com (http://www.enterprisemission.com), secretspaceprogram.com (http://www.secretspaceprogram.com)

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4291/rir110320.jpg

March 20, 2011
In this program, we discuss the "Secret Space Program" and the concept of a breakaway civilization. Someone with a more sophisticated and advanced technology, from Earth, has created for themselves a completely different capability to go into space, to utilize resources and maybe even to settle on other planets. Is this a plausible theory? Could this really be happening?

Richard C. Hoagland from enterprisemission.com and author of “The Monuments of Mars” and ”Dark Mission", returns to Red Ice Radio to discuss some of these ideas. Richard tries to shed light on the possibility that most of humanity has been kept in the dark about.

Topics Discussed: the other space program, advanced technology, Timothy Good, Peter Levenda, Richard Dolan, Joseph Farrell, the Secret Space Program, breakaway civilization, anti-gravity, free energy, Star Trek, the Nazis, the Hebrews, the Bible, natural cycle of cataclysm, the yuga cycles, the superwealthy elite, banksters, uranium and plotunium, Japanese earthquake, tsunami, nuclear meltdown at Fukushima, war in Libya, philosophical roots of the idology and more.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/03/RIR-110320-rhoagland.mp3

download mp3
(http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/03/RIR-110320-rhoagland.mp3)

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2599/sspe.jpg

Check out the website for more informations secretspaceprogram.com (http://www.secretspaceprogram.com)

Thank you Helvetic for posting this very relevant link....

[9eagle9]

Bill Ryan sez:

I do not buy:
Transcendence to another dimension (what dimension, and why?)
People suddenly physically disappearing (can anyone see how silly this is?)
The Earth 'dividing into two' - one Ascended Earth, and another not (again, why?)
I'd invite anyone here to identify the actual sources of these notions. (At least then we could look at who first suggested these ideas, and why.)


You said it , Bill. They are Judeo-Christian based. Same beliefs given different names. Most every thing new age is just re-manufactured Christianity . Right off the top of my head, ascension is based in the part of the Bible where Jesus Ascended in whole form into heaven. Sorry my scriptural reference is dusty but I could find it with a bit of poking around. Earth dividing in two is just another way of saying there are 'sinners' and there are 'non sinners.' Another spiritual caste system that is spoken out of one corner of the mouth while the other corner talks about Oneness. Reptilian speak? Speaking with forked tongues..? Lol. One may as just well as say a new heaven and a new hell on earth....

People just disappearing is a remanufacture of the Rapture when people just were sucked up into uhm..heaven. Or wherever. The Rapture didn't come on the scenes until around the 1830's and was based on speculation around a certain piece of scripture. It somehow assumed a life of its own and some people even think its part of original scripture. Likely that speculation was based on some sort of ascension type event from the Bible. Give me a library of New Age Material and I'll show you its original source in Buddhism, Judaic Mysticism or Biblical Scripture. Like the 'channeling's that are currently wallpapering our alternative media. Guaranteed its exists on a book shelf someplace and has just been reworked to sound original. It's not, its just an old beleif that's been given another name.

The original sutras concerning Karma by the Buddhists are far different than the Westernized versions: One of which is a concept of an energy that dispenses Reward and Punishment. We used to call that the God of the Old Testament. Now we call it Karma. The original Buddhists teachings about Karma make a lot more sense and are a lot more effective .

[heyokah]

Bill Ryan sez:

I do not buy:
Transcendence to another dimension (what dimension, and why?)
People suddenly physically disappearing (can anyone see how silly this is?)
The Earth 'dividing into two' - one Ascended Earth, and another not (again, why?)
I'd invite anyone here to identify the actual sources of these notions. (At least then we could look at who first suggested these ideas, and why.)


You said it , Bill. They are Judeo-Christian based. Same beliefs given different names. Most every thing new age is just re-manufactured Christianity . Right off the top of my head, ascension is based in the part of the Bible where Jesus Ascended in whole form into heaven. Sorry my scriptural reference is dusty but I could find it with a bit of poking around. Earth dividing in two is just another way of saying there are 'sinners' and there are 'non sinners.' Another spiritual caste system that is spoken out of one corner of the mouth while the other corner talks about Oneness. Reptilian speak? Speaking with forked tongues..? Lol. One may as just well as say a new heaven and a new hell on earth....

People just disappearing is a remanufacture of the Rapture when people just were sucked up into uhm..heaven. Or wherever. The Rapture didn't come on the scenes until around the 1830's and was based on speculation around a certain piece of scripture. It somehow assumed a life of its own and some people even think its part of original scripture. Likely that speculation was based on some sort of ascension type event from the Bible. Give me a library of New Age Material and I'll show you its original source in Buddhism, Judaic Mysticism or Biblical Scripture. Like the 'channeling's that are currently wallpapering our alternative media. Guaranteed its exists on a book shelf someplace and has just been reworked to sound original. It's not, its just an old beleif that's been given another name.

The original sutras concerning Karma by the Buddhists are far different than the Westernized versions: One of which is a concept of an energy that dispenses Reward and Punishment. We used to call that the God of the Old Testament. Now we call it Karma. The original Buddhists teachings about Karma make a lot more sense and are a lot more effective .

Sorry eagle, but I think your eye has been deceiving you.
You are replying in the wrong thread I think

[9eagle9]

I KNOW I quoted from the first page, post number 20 of this thread so I'm not sure why you think MY eyes are decieving me or I should think I"M in some sort of error.

Care to clarify?





Ascension is an ancient concept and the Buddhist refer to it as entering into a state of nirvana.


It may very well be. I'd be interested to know what word the Buddhists actually used (i.e. how it was first translated into English). If you do know, please share it... I'd be intrigued.

As best I know, the English word 'Ascension' has Christian origins. Again, I don't know in what version of the Bible the term first appeared.

The problem with the word 'Ascension' as currently used (and misused!) in the New Age community is that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 101 different answers. This is a joke, but you get what I mean.

I buy the following ideas/ concepts:


Enlightenment / nirvana / samsara
Existence as a liberated spiritual being after body death
A general present-time raising of consciousness among people here on Planet Earth.

I do not buy:


Transcendence to another dimension (what dimension, and why?)
People suddenly physically disappearing (can anyone see how silly this is?)
The Earth 'dividing into two' - one Ascended Earth, and another not (again, why?)

I'd invite anyone here to identify the actual sources of these notions. (At least then we could look at who first suggested these ideas, and why.)

Re the Giza Pyramids (all three of them, presumably), I'd like to state on record here that I don't feel I know what their function was. I've read many theories, and am not yet definitively convinced by any of them. (It seems self-evident that they are far older than most Egyptologists believe.)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Bill,

run a power cord from the pyramids and they could power this world...

I'm not sure how, but they are drawing energy from the plates...

Tesla knew the answer, location location location ;)

[observer]

Thank you 9eagle9 for your input.


....[snip]Care to clarify?....[snip]

Your reply to Bill's comment has come along well past the point in this thread that the general topic of discussion was focused on the ascension aspect of the Cheops Pyramid structure. That particular phase of the discussion was put to rest back on those pages.

The evolution of this thread has now progressed to focus on the 'hard physical evidence' that is now being discovered in the archaeological record.

I believe heyokah is referring to that progression of the topic in her comment to you.

I know heyokah and she is not a native English speaker. It is sometimes difficult for her to express herself in English terms. I can assure you she meant no malice in her comment.

I think I can interpret her comment in terms of: let's move on to the many new discoveries being made....

[heyokah]

I KNOW I quoted from the first page, post number 20 of this thread so I'm not sure why you think MY eyes are deceiving me or I should think I"M in some sort of error.

Care to clarify?

Sorry eagle, didn't recognize it as a QUOTE.
I apologize.
Must be something in my Heyokah eye.... :p

[observer]

....[snip]

Hi Rocky,

I was reading something from the old Avalon Forum just today that involved one of your comments. It was very relevant to the 'new discoveries' aspect of this thread.

It came-up because I will be posting (at the end of this comment) links to two of Kerry's interviews with the Giza Geomatrix Group.

Here is a link to the old forum thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279

The comment I am referring to is #21. I invite all the members to go review Rocky's observations.

We can use this old forum thread as a segue to Kerry's new interviews with Richard Gabriel and Bill Brown of the Giza Geomatrix Group:

Project Camelot Interview - Giza Geomatrix I -
http://www.youtube.com/user/jagbodhi#p/search/2/DxN6cL4wAfk

Project Camelot Interview - Giza Geomatrix II -
http://www.youtube.com/user/jagbodhi#p/search/2/oiAOtE7evQI

These interviews are further conformation of the information Dr. Joseph Farrell and Richard Hoagland are presenting.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Mods can you pull both threads over for discussion here on PA2?


and thank you so much for tracking it down, I saw an earthquake in the last few days not far from Sedona...

It made me wonder about this ancient Egyptian trip to the US...

[WhiteFeather]

Abstract:

“The Connection of 440Hz to the Containment of the Human Species; what was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

It has only been through the study of researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, and Zecharia Sitchin that I’ve come to realize the “gods" of antiquity were nothing more than a reptilian species of extra-dimensional entities that were actually responsible for the “creation” of Homo Sapiens.

This is well documented as the story of the Anunnaki in the Zecharia Sitchin material. These Same Draconian Reptiles have been responsible for the organization of our Human civilizations, and the continued manipulation of the evolution of our social structures – throughout recorded history.

One must realize, the intelligence capacity of Homo Sapiens has not changed considerably since we first appeared on the planet some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago. (generally, the accepted age of the species) The only thing that has changed over that span of time is the “understanding” of Humanity. The so-called “mythologies” were the best attempt of a primitive people to document what they were observing as events occurred, using the only concepts that were available at the time. The fact that reptiles – in one form or another – appear in the mythologies of indigenous people around the globe is evidence enough these “gods” (reptilian life forms) who apparently come from the Draco Star System have been controlling reality here for a very long time.

The evidential trail is overwhelming that these “demonic” forces have been continuously invoked through ritualistic ceremonies preformed by our ruling elite since the dawn of civilization. Call them “fallen angels”, demons, extraterrestrial aliens, extra-dimensional entities, or a myriad of other names, the fact remains these energies have been operating from behind the screen of smoke-and-mirrors of reality since Humanity first civilized.

The occult cabals that maintained an obvious control of our social structures throughout history have a direct link to these demonic forces through the rituals preformed in their secret meetings. What is the connection between the obsession with the symbology of ancient Egypt and these exclusive clubs for the elite? What were the mythological “gods” of antiquity doing to the Masses that were so important for the global elite to memorialize that activity in symbols? Why are these symbols on our currencies, corporate logos, military uniforms, foundational institutions of society, coats of arms of the global elite, etc.?

For me, it was a great revelation when, through the work of Dr. Leo Horowitz, I discovered the healing vibrations of the Solfeggio Music Scale. (see link at: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/solfeggiofrequencies.html)

I learned this healing vibrational scale was in use until the great classical masters such as, Mozart, and Bach were instrumental in abandoning this Solfeggio Scale for the more modern tuning of 440Hz Concert A.

I was already aware of the connection of these great “masters” with (what David Icke refers to as) the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. I immediately realized there was a connection to the conspiracy to abandon the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A) in favor of the 440Hz as an affront to Humanity. This conversion to 440Hz Concert A is really an entirely modern phenomenon – just in the past one hundred plus years. 417Hz has been the frequency used for the musical note A since antiquity. The abandon of the Solfeggio Scale for the more modern concert scales has had a dynamic effect on the healing vibrations of the music we listen to as a society. The conversion has been all about controlling the masses.

The effect of vibrations on what the Mass of Humanity perceives as real has everything to do with controlling the Mass of Humanity through the control of the frequencies of reality.

All material manifestation here in this particular third density is a complex combination of electromagnetic frequencies. The thousands of miles of DNA in our bodies are nothing more than frequency receptors – antennae. Humanities perception of reality is predicated by our body’s ability to receive frequencies and interpret those frequencies in our brains into what we perceive as material structure.

So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.

The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids….

Update
For those of you interested in following the dialogue that lead-up to this possibility, I direct you to two Threads at the old Avalon site. The following are a list of links to all of the pages of those Threads:

•Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section - Page 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

•The Giza Geomatrix exposure - Pge 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279
(follow the pages of the Threads from the links)


I'm adding this dialogue to this Thread so that anyone wanting to research a portion of the evidence that led to this discovery can do so.

2nd Update

OP's Note to Commenters:
I started this thread to gain further input from any member who might have 'credible evidence' (either pro, or con) to support (or reject) the theory laid-out in the abstract in the original post of this thread.

I'm looking for evidence from the archaeological record, interviews of first person accounts, references from documented written text, or any evidence that may be 'reproducible' in content.

Anyone can write a book concerning what the 'voices in their head' are telling them. Some of these books can be quite entertaining. None of this sort of information is relevant to this thread....

For a further clarification of this Note, see the following comment:


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Alex Collier speaks of them as "The Giza Intelligence".

[WhiteFeather]

Simple me. I thought it was a temple of initiation where someone could ascend.

Lost Soul,

Ascension is nothing more than a final phase of the "Wheel of Karma" (If one is clever enough to figure-out the key to unlocking the gate). The ascension process is NOT something the "gods" of antiquity would have initiated the Masses into. One must research the paranormal for years before one can even understand the connection between karma and keeping the soul "locked" in never ending cycles of birth and rebirth. To my knowledge, there are no definitive treaties on the concept that the collective soul of the Mass of Humanity has been "locked" in a "prison" of birth and rebirth by a demonic power otherwise known as Draconian Reptiles (semantics: fallen angles). There is an obvious good reason for the lack of this kind of information.

The New Age concept of "ascension" has been brought to us by the same fourth dimensional "prison wardens" who have been responsible for bringing Humanity all the other "great works" of religious dogma through the mechanism of telepathic communication.

A through review of the evidence will reveal the New Age concept of "ascension" is nothing more than a "buzz word" for: "You are all going to die".

It's our collective responsibility to figure-out how the mechanism works, so that we ALL can get out of this prison. Ascension will not be complete until the entire "body of humanity" returns to singularity....

How long have you researched ascension like you have researched the pyramids, which i might add you did some great research on the pyramids." LMK Appreciate a response.

[observer]

[....snip]
Alex Collier speaks of them as "The Giza Intelligence".

As a source of information Alex Collier is much more believable from other 'channelers'. Alex is a contactee with a long-term direct physical connection to his alien mentors, i.e. contact of the fifth kind. By Alex's own admission, he does communicate telepathically with his mentors. Also, I'm not aware of any third party verification of his encounters.

If one were to research the work of Jim Marrs, and Dr. Joseph P. Farrell, one will discover this so-called Giza Intelligence was nothing more than the entities that were being 'channeled' by Maria Orsic and other members of the Vril Society.

The Nazis (past/present/and future) figure-into the whole Giza story with explicit synchronicity.



[....snip]
How long have you researched ascension like you have researched the pyramids, which i might add you did some great research on the pyramids." LMK Appreciate a response.

From my perspective, WhitFeather, the two have gone hand-in-hand, I've gone wherever the research has led me.

I began my journey into the occult mysteries at the age of 14 with an in-depth study of the work of Edgar Cayce. I'm 64 years old now.

Through this journey I have been exposed to, and (in many cases) have subscribed to the theories of any number of clairvoyants, channelers, remote viewers, seers, prophets, or whatever other name you might apply to the phenomenon.

After fifty years of research, I've come to the conclusion that any knowledge passed through the process of telepathic communication is only 'truth' to the receiver of that particular information, and then, only if the receiver believes those telepathic communications. No one (other than the transmitter) can discern from where these telepathic communications emanate.

So, as a result of these observations, I've come to trust only the evidence.

The evidence will show, this particular three dimensional reality has been skillfully manipulated through the process of telepathic communication since the Mass of Humanity first Civilized. (or at least since our manipulated historical record indicates we first civilized)

There is little doubt, upon a through review of the evidential trail, that the Mass of Humanity has been confined within a matrix of control. A compartment - if you will - through the 'revelation' of alleged 'truth'.... all carefully documented as "the word of God" in any number of text that have been presented by the receivers of telepathic communications.

Of course, this is all my personal observation. You can take it for what it's worth to you.

"They" are very clever at what they do....

[Richie_asg1]

One thing that is certain about the Great Pyramid - is that it inspires us.
I do not channel or have inside knowledge, but I am resourceful, a qualified engineer, and have insight into how things work (or are meant to).

I think I might have figured it all out, but as there are so many other books out there with authors that also think they have figured it all out, then my theories are just that. Another one for the bookshelf perhaps.

I don't think there is a book that pieces all the information together yet. This I think is important as the pyramid was designed and built with a single purpose, so there is no room for additional corridors or rooms that do not have a purpose.
I think a lot of what is said is true, but we cannot fully comprehend that the complexity of the structure looks so simple. We would say how can such a building do these remarkable things.
I use an alalogy here of two identical wineglasses in a room. They are held and isolated from each other and at a distance. One wineglass is given energy and made to resonate at it's fundamental harmonic. As if by magic - the other wineglass starts to move untill it too is singing the same tune - but with no obvious wires, connection or system visible. Magic perhaps?
It would seem to be magic to primative people, and as primative people do, they venerate it and start to worship it. They move the wineglasses to other locations and perform rituals, but the wineglass no longer sings. They do not understand it but worship it anyways and record the myth in their histories.

A simple answer to your simple question - something - somewhere - is also resonating at 440Hz.

One of the things that stuck in my head from when I was a kid was that "Moses studied at the Pharoah's court. One of the things he studied was Resonance"
Wasn't he later using his knowledge to "make the waves stand up upon one another" ?

[Cartomancer]

I believe that many of the theories about the Great Pyramid are believable and many others simply aren't. As a component of the Mysteries the pyramid is supposed to make you try and solve what it is for. Along the way one learns many things about the ancient Egyptian faith and philosophy. Obviously the structure itself contains the formula's for Pi and Phi, the circumference of the earth and much more.

Through my research I feel the GPOG is a cultural datum of sorts. Along the azimuths or directions inferred from its orientation and structural elements eight directions are inferred. Along these azimuths are the ruins of Baalbek in which the generated line intersects the ruins at Baalbek and matches one of the facets of its hexagonal shape, The Grand Mosque in Mecca, The leaning Tower of Pisa, the site of discovery of the Golden Tablets of Joseph Smith which founded the Mormon Religion, The pyramid in Memphis Tenn. also aligns with the pyramid. All of these places are pointed to by the GPOG (great pyramid of giza). In addition other directions seem to lead to places intentionally placed there with respect to the structural elements or facets of the GPOG. In shot the pyramid is like a datum or place from which to measure that faiths and philosophies similar to that of ancient egypt are propigated. It is like the guidestone of faith. In order to understand what I am saying better watch this:

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[iceni tribe]

Amazing Facts About the Pyramids at Giza

Uploaded with Comments by TheUniverseExplorer
September 18, 2011

'The Revelation of the Pyramids,' released on August 22, 2011 by Optimum Home Entertainment claims to finally uncover the truth about the Great Pyramids of Egypt, saying that "After nearly forty years of study and research, the producers of this documentary have at last managed first to understand and then to prove what lies behind one of the greatest archeological mysteries."

This film's director, Patrice Pooyard guides us through some of the world's oldest and most beautiful sites, aided by his anonymous informants and technical specialists. The producers of this film say that it will shake many accepted notions of world history to its core and completely revolutionize the field of Egyptology.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwyEYG6u86s

[Kamikaze]

icene thanks for sharing that video! The Revelation of the Pyramids has to be one of the most important videos concerning the ancient sites to date!

Just goes to show things aren't as simple as we are lead to believe. Though I have to say the ending is a little nerve wrecking, not something I expected at all.
But the four signs of the zodiac and the four stars to point to the 4 "seasons" of the precession of the equinox and when they start was awesome.
Though they didn't provide were it's at at the moment. (something they want you to check yourself?). The fear factor you get in the ending might have been blown of the top if they did.

[Kerrigan]

I've been watching the Acient Aliens show of the Historical Channel and they talk about the Great Pyramid and it's (theorized) purpose:

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Start watching at 1:13:30

[Reinhard]

Thank you, Iceni Tribe, for this great post!

The findings correspond with Lemesurier's great work and calculations. His book, written in 1977, is still 'up-to-date'. Great reading, even for people who don't like numbers, like myself: " The great pyramid decoded". Some of his conclusions seem to be somewhat 'adventagious', but never-the-less eye-opening.

Enjoy, Reinhard

[heyokah]

I don't know what the real purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza was, but could this have been one of them ?

"Nikola Tesla discovered free wireless energy in 1902. Bankers JP Morgan and Henry Ford supported by others who felt that this invention was a threat to the oil business. All of Tesla's work was destroyed. Free environmental friendly energy is still the best kept secret.
A secret that already 5,000 years earlier was discovered in ancient Egypt ?"



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Remains the question, "Who built the Pyramids ?"

[observer]

I don't know what the real purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza was, but could this have been one of them ?[snip]

Thank you heyokah, this is good supporting documentation, and it goes further to the Christopher Dunn theory that the Great Pyramid was a power generator. Christopher Dunn was discussed back in the threads on the Old Avalon Forum regarding the Pyramid phenomenon.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

There can be no doubt that Tesla was working with the same physics that was used by the ancients in the Great Pyramid at Giza.

I think, however, the mystery goes much deeper than electrical generation.

In his "Giza Death Star" trilogy, Dr. Joseph Farrell proposes the ultimate purpose of this particular structure was that of an hyperdimensional weapon.

He also suggests the source of the civilization that created this weapon of mass destruction was off-planet in what is now the asteroid belt, i.e. a planet destroyed by the hyperdimensional technology employed in the pyramid in its weapons format. This goes to your question of, "who built the Pyramid".

This theory is also supported by the discoveries of anomalous objects found throughout our solar system, as documented by Richard Hoagland.

Additionally, if one follows the lectures of Nassim Haramein, one will be introduced to the concept that the sarcophagus in the Kings Chamber once housed the device later designated the "Arc of the Covenant". Haramein suggests the Arc was the container of a singularity. One must study Haramein to get a complete understanding of what he is talking about when he uses the term, "singularity". There can be no doubt this Arc was used by the Israelis as a weapon.

Sources:
Dr. Joseph Farrell, "The Giza Death Star":
http://books.google.com/books?id=nzaiviPoS5oC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=OhWPHVDLsS&sig=z2Bl95XTlkZpSXZ5iOT9_N-mw7E&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CGwQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q&f=false
Dr. Joseph Farrell, "The Giza Death Star Deployed":
http://books.google.com/books?id=1yPOhLagyaAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=np_WVH26aw&sig=k1XNoKyi-8uzDDktEvhSIfEWEFU&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=13&ved=0CG8Q6AEwDA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Dr. Joseph Farrell, "The Giza Death Star Destroyed":
http://books.google.com/books?id=_gc9RexD2PcC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=uhHeOewjyp&sig=RFpFbT-X16DJzgDVfjkEeaZa4MM&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q&f=false
Richard C. Hoagland, "Dark Mission":
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/luna_darkmission.htm
Nassim Haramein, on the Arc of the Covenant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UPnTUMCh80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=qyVBMEfqy7g&NR=1

[heyokah]

I don't know what the real purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza was, but could this have been one of them ?[snip]

Thank you heyokah, this is good supporting documentation, and it goes further to the Christopher Dunn theory that the Great Pyramid was a power generator. Christopher Dunn was discussed back in the threads on the Old Avalon Forum regarding the Pyramid phenomenon.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

There can be no doubt that Tesla was working with the same physics that was used by the ancients in the Great Pyramid at Giza.

I think, however, the mystery goes much deeper than electrical generation.

In his "Giza Death Star" trilogy, Dr. Joseph Farrell proposes the ultimate purpose of this particular structure was that of an hyperdimensional weapon.

He also suggests the source of the civilization that created this weapon of mass destruction was off-planet in what is now the asteroid belt, i.e. a planet destroyed by the hyperdimensional technology employed in the pyramid in its weapons format. This goes to your question of, "who built the Pyramid".

This theory is also supported by the discoveries of anomalous objects found throughout our solar system, as documented by Richard Hoagland.

Additionally, if one follows the lectures of Nassim Haramein, one will be introduced to the concept that the sarcophagus in the Kings Chamber once housed the device later designated the "Arc of the Covenant". Haramein suggests the Arc was the container of a singularity. One must study Haramein to get a complete understanding of what he is talking about when he uses the term, "singularity". There can be no doubt this Arc was used by the Israelis as a weapon.

Sources:
Dr. Joseph Farrell, "The Giza Death Star":
http://books.google.com/books?id=nzaiviPoS5oC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=OhWPHVDLsS&sig=z2Bl95XTlkZpSXZ5iOT9_N-mw7E&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CGwQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q&f=false
Dr. Joseph Farrell, "The Giza Death Star Deployed":
http://books.google.com/books?id=1yPOhLagyaAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=np_WVH26aw&sig=k1XNoKyi-8uzDDktEvhSIfEWEFU&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=13&ved=0CG8Q6AEwDA#v=onepage&q&f=false
Dr. Joseph Farrell, "The Giza Death Star Destroyed":
http://books.google.com/books?id=_gc9RexD2PcC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=uhHeOewjyp&sig=RFpFbT-X16DJzgDVfjkEeaZa4MM&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q&f=false
Richard C. Hoagland, "Dark Mission":
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/luna_darkmission.htm
Nassim Haramein, on the Arc of the Covenant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UPnTUMCh80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=qyVBMEfqy7g&NR=1


Thank you, observer, for the links to the work of Joseph Farrell and Richard C Hoagland, which are very informative and revealing indeed.

As for the links to the YouTubes of Nassim Haramein, I take the liberty to post the video's to make them more accessible to the members on the forum, as they are really worth watching.


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[observer]

Sorry I didn't respond earlier, Kerrigan. I've been off the forum for a period of time.


I've been watching the Acient Aliens show of the Historical Channel and they talk about the Great Pyramid and it's (theorized) purpose:
[....snip]
Start watching at 1:13:30

[Note from Observer: Your link doesn't work, Kerrigan. I took the liberty to post a new link to the same video:]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dytj4DZrq3g


In his "Giza Death Star" trilogy, and further in his book, "The Cosmic War", Dr. Joseph P. Farrell rejects the naturalist and materialist assumptions of catastrophism forwarded by other researchers. Farrell asserts that it is time to take the ancient myths of a Cosmic War in the heavens seriously.

Farrell suggests the pyramids at Giza, and other monolithic structures found around, not only our planet, but throughout the solar system were all a part of a 'paleophysics' weapons system. A system that was an integral part of the technology that caused the asteroid belt.

With everything I've learned about this theory since I made the OP of this thread, Farrell's theory makes the most sense, and is well worth the research.

Links to Farrell's work can be easily found in Amazon.com, and on YouTube. There is also an interview in the Camelot website with Farrell.

Research resource:
http://gizadeathstar.com/about-2/dr-joseph-p-farrell/

[WhiteFeather]

Just came across this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiMMERUpaNY&feature=player_embedded

[observer]

Just came across this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiMMERUpaNY&feature=player_embedded

Thank you for that find WhiteFeather.

This video is an encapsulation of all the research by Christopher Dunn, Joseph P. Farrell, Nassim Haramein, Ralph Ellis, even David Icke can be included within this list. All of these researchers offer corroborating evidence within their individual fields of work to support the hypothesis being presented within your video.

The facts indicate an ancient civilization from antiquity built and used these Giza structures, along with other pyramid structures around the world, as an inner planetary weapon. The evidence also indicates the power source for this weapons system was maintained into antiquity by the global elite and later stolen out of the Great Pyramid at Giza by those Pharaoh Kings known as the Hyksos, who later in history became the Hebrew Nation, as they were expelled from Egypt. The evidence indicates this occurred much later in history.

You can find fragments of this story within the work of each one of the researchers I mentioned, above.

Were you aware, during Roman Empire times, messages were sent from the furthest reaches of the empire, and answers returned within the same day? How do you suppose they were doing this, if not for stolen technology from a much more distant past. Technology that was hidden deep within the secret cabals of the elite.

I've linked most of the referenced researchers in other comments in this thread. Here's something from Ralph Ellis that continues the Arc of the Covenant story that you may find interesting:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgodwiVtAHo&list=PL3804C3592B453048&index=2&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgodwiVtAHo&list=PL3804C3592B453048&index=2&feature=plpp_video

Here's a link for Joseph Farrell:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hoq3fVCbfg&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL41DA2D3A9CD26FF5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hoq3fVCbfg&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL41DA2D3A9CD26FF5
You can follow all the parts to this interview in YouTube.

[Straker]

Hi everyone,

I have just joined this forum, and noticed this thread on the purpose of the Great Pyramid.

Back in 2004 I published an article in Nexus Magazine which drew a lot of interest, including an invitation from the Russian Pyramid Research Group, and Valery Uvarov, who contacted me directly.

For those of you who have not had a chance to read that article, I have made it available again on my main website www.egyptmysteries.org for anyone interested in the frequencies and what I believe to be the origin of the geometry.

From that research, I concluded that there might be a second identical set of chambers inside the pyramid, at 180 degrees to the existing set. This might sound unbelievable at first, until you realise that the chambers are offset from centre and there is indeed room for another set.

If this is true, then it opens the possibility of there being a second "Ark" of the Covenant, inside a second Kings Chamber, with the two of them interacting to create a field effect.

The article includes many diagrams and photos to better explain my theories, and I would be interested in any feedback.

Best
James Colmer

[observer]

For those of you who have not had a chance to read that article, I have made it available again on my main website www.egyptmysteries.org for anyone interested in the frequencies and what I believe to be the origin of the geometry.


Welcome to the forum, and thank you for your input, Straker.

The articles you have presented on mapping the brain all seem very plausible, although there is very little relationship to the actual purpose of the pyramid structure to be gleaned from this research.

It is the work you did on the "hidden chambers" within the Great Pyramid that I find most fascinating. The missing pieces fit together just like a jigsaw puzzle. Could there be any other conclusion, knowing all the other geometric perfections involved in this structure?

Are you aware of all the top secret nocturnal excavating work currently being conducted by the Egyptian Antiquities Authority at the Giza site? Do you suppose they have actually discovered the shafts you are suggesting in your research?

There is no doubt the hidden shafts (if they exist) can be accessed by the tunnel system that has been discovered under the plateau by the Giza Geomatrix team - these newly discovered tunnels interconnecting all of the Giza Plateau.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=047c6L1xi_E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=047c6L1xi_E

Research links:
Interview with the Giza Geomatrix team. Other interviews with the team can be followed on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL89HDIc-i0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL89HDIc-i0&feature=related

Link to Giza Geomatrix website:
http://www.richardgabriel.info/

[Straker]

Thankyou very much Observer.

What I do know is that shortly after I published that article, the Queens chamber was sealed off and they began drilling or digging in there.

You see, the Waseda University in Japan had taken a sonar team in there and I saw a documentary about a year after publication, where they suggest there is a duplicate set of chambers (but their idea was that they were in the same direction, not 180 degrees like mine.

The closest point between the two sets, if there were two sets, is about 1m between each of the queens chambers. Waseda claim there is another chamber approx 1 metre behind the back wall.

I have just updated that Missing Chambers page, with a clickable larger image of the geometry, which I would love for everyone to take a look at and test out for themselves using a compass.

It's the only way I can see perfection in the origins of the angles.

Best
James

[Straker]

http://www.antigravitymovie.com/masterplan2.jpg

This is the one I'm talking about.

[Straker]

http://www.antigravitymovie.com/chambers.jpg

And the point of this being that the existing chambers that we all know about, are offset from the centre, very odd don't you think, and also they do not make any sense on their own. Completing the missing pieces, the whole thing takes form, and the two coffers line up.

[tonius]

Abstract:

“The Connection of 440Hz to the Containment of the Human Species; what was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

It has only been through the study of researchers such as Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tsarion, and Zecharia Sitchin that I’ve come to realize the “gods" of antiquity were nothing more than a reptilian species of extra-dimensional entities that were actually responsible for the “creation” of Homo Sapiens.

This is well documented as the story of the Anunnaki in the Zecharia Sitchin material. These Same Draconian Reptiles have been responsible for the organization of our Human civilizations, and the continued manipulation of the evolution of our social structures – throughout recorded history.

One must realize, the intelligence capacity of Homo Sapiens has not changed considerably since we first appeared on the planet some two hundred and fifty thousand years ago. (generally, the accepted age of the species) The only thing that has changed over that span of time is the “understanding” of Humanity. The so-called “mythologies” were the best attempt of a primitive people to document what they were observing as events occurred, using the only concepts that were available at the time. The fact that reptiles – in one form or another – appear in the mythologies of indigenous people around the globe is evidence enough these “gods” (reptilian life forms) who apparently come from the Draco Star System have been controlling reality here for a very long time.

The evidential trail is overwhelming that these “demonic” forces have been continuously invoked through ritualistic ceremonies preformed by our ruling elite since the dawn of civilization. Call them “fallen angels”, demons, extraterrestrial aliens, extra-dimensional entities, or a myriad of other names, the fact remains these energies have been operating from behind the screen of smoke-and-mirrors of reality since Humanity first civilized.

The occult cabals that maintained an obvious control of our social structures throughout history have a direct link to these demonic forces through the rituals preformed in their secret meetings. What is the connection between the obsession with the symbology of ancient Egypt and these exclusive clubs for the elite? What were the mythological “gods” of antiquity doing to the Masses that were so important for the global elite to memorialize that activity in symbols? Why are these symbols on our currencies, corporate logos, military uniforms, foundational institutions of society, coats of arms of the global elite, etc.?

For me, it was a great revelation when, through the work of Dr. Leo Horowitz, I discovered the healing vibrations of the Solfeggio Music Scale. (see link at: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.com/solfeggiofrequencies.html)

I learned this healing vibrational scale was in use until the great classical masters such as, Mozart, and Bach were instrumental in abandoning this Solfeggio Scale for the more modern tuning of 440Hz Concert A.

I was already aware of the connection of these great “masters” with (what David Icke refers to as) the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. I immediately realized there was a connection to the conspiracy to abandon the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A) in favor of the 440Hz as an affront to Humanity. This conversion to 440Hz Concert A is really an entirely modern phenomenon – just in the past one hundred plus years. 417Hz has been the frequency used for the musical note A since antiquity. The abandon of the Solfeggio Scale for the more modern concert scales has had a dynamic effect on the healing vibrations of the music we listen to as a society. The conversion has been all about controlling the masses.

The effect of vibrations on what the Mass of Humanity perceives as real has everything to do with controlling the Mass of Humanity through the control of the frequencies of reality.

All material manifestation here in this particular third density is a complex combination of electromagnetic frequencies. The thousands of miles of DNA in our bodies are nothing more than frequency receptors – antennae. Humanities perception of reality is predicated by our body’s ability to receive frequencies and interpret those frequencies in our brains into what we perceive as material structure.

So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.

The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids….

Update
For those of you interested in following the dialogue that lead-up to this possibility, I direct you to two Threads at the old Avalon site. The following are a list of links to all of the pages of those Threads:

•Great Pyramid - Working model of subterranean section - Page 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

•The Giza Geomatrix exposure - Pge 1:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279
(follow the pages of the Threads from the links)


I'm adding this dialogue to this Thread so that anyone wanting to research a portion of the evidence that led to this discovery can do so.

2nd Update

OP's Note to Commenters:
I started this thread to gain further input from any member who might have 'credible evidence' (either pro, or con) to support (or reject) the theory laid-out in the abstract in the original post of this thread.

I'm looking for evidence from the archaeological record, interviews of first person accounts, references from documented written text, or any evidence that may be 'reproducible' in content.

Anyone can write a book concerning what the 'voices in their head' are telling them. Some of these books can be quite entertaining. None of this sort of information is relevant to this thread....

For a further clarification of this Note, see the following comment:


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I think you got it right,more importantly the purpose of such structure, interesting how in some channelings its said to for the opposote purpose, being what it is its understandable they want to hide the real purpose of it. Not forgetting that this reality is a symbol for many more complicated things going on, and even if we see an old , stone structere, the intention with wich it was built, and its too many mathematical, proportional coincidences carry on its purpose.

I think its some kind of huge collector, or better channeling device of the ''negative'' energies, this reptilian beings feed on, so its like a kind of more efficient way to transport such ''food'', as a conteiners ship may be to us. And what better way to hide such device in plain sight than presenting it as an old, abbandoned, ''usless'' structure, but as we now know things are never as they seem to be. Your 440 Hz purpose seems logical too, what better way to controll than using something everyone likes, hears everyday, everywhere, and as you cant control people's taste on music, by tuning it to a specific frequency that corrisponds to your interests , you symbolicly have guaranted that your ''bad'' intentions are always carried withh its apparent pleasure, ''poison selled as honey''..

The only thing i can argue a little about is that the real evidence , physical proof you search may be added sometimes by the ''voices in your head'' you talk about, it may your own voice, some of the greatest intuitions come this way, from this 3d perspective if we dont consider all the ways information may come to us we are at the same thinking level of most actual scientists today who want to explain everything with experiments. connecting the dots is important, but studing the porpotion of the pyramid only will get you until a certain point, remember its all symbolical stuff to falsley get our ''permisson'', tricking us, into accepting the fate they have decided for us.

Do you have any ''physical'' , experimental proof that 440hz damages us in some way, let alone giving proof to others of reptilians, eventhough you and me know its real, and very present.Trying to solve the puzzle only with acheological evidence only is a hard task, as its always open to personal interpretation, its concentrating only in the final result, the effects of a process, and as these entities usually operate more in the range of ''voices in your head'', paying attention to them may give you more clues than any proportional connection you may find.And your and my ''forgot'' knowledge, wich is still there comunicats in these way too, and is its ''voice'' , different from the voices above, which brought you to such intuitions in first place.

We cant just hope to ''fight'' back only with physical proof, would be like fighitng with a sword against a gun, information should be welcomed from different sources, as long as its filtered, reasoned upon and conected.I have not even seen with my eyes the great pyramide, so from what you suggest, in theory i shouldn't even talk about it ,and if you haven't seen it too you already are far from physical proof, i mean, are you sure its really there :) ?

[Straker]

You have to wonder too...that if indeed there is a cycle of destruction on this earth, caused by a pole shift or alignment every 26,000 years...that the ancient people or extraterrestrial builders of all the pyramids around the world must have known that they would be the only structures capable of surviving such massive disasters.

I've also heard that the great pyramid resonance works in tune with the earth, to stabilise it's rotation, but of course I can't prove that. A coupled oscillator.

J

[WhiteFeather]

Just love this thread. Always fascinated with the Great Pyramid. Such Great work on this thread Observer. ~Wanishi~

[observer]

You have to wonder too...that if indeed there is a cycle of destruction on this earth, caused by a pole shift or alignment every 26,000 years...that the ancient people or extraterrestrial builders of all the pyramids around the world must have known that they would be the only structures capable of surviving such massive disasters.

I've also heard that the great pyramid resonance works in tune with the earth, to stabilise it's rotation, but of course I can't prove that. A coupled oscillator.

J


Hi again Straker,

I must reiterate that I find your "hidden chambers" theory most intriguing.

Since the time that I wrote the OP paper I have made many discoveries.... come to many new conclusions, your theory notwithstanding. The potential for your perceptions to be correct are astounding.

I just want to repost some links, here, for your edification - in the event you may have missed some of them through this thread. If you are not already aware of Dr. Farrell's work, you might find what he is saying most applicable to your 'double chamber' theory. Dr. Farrell builds on the work of Christopher Dunn and includes the understanding of hyperdimensional physics mated with ancient mythologies within his model.

You might find the work of Dr. Joseph P. Farrell most relevant:

"The Giza Death Star" - http://books.google.com/books?id=nzaiviPoS5oC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=OhWPHVDLsS&sig=z2Bl95XTlkZpSXZ5iOT9_N-mw7E&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CGwQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q&f=false

"The Giza Death Star Deployed" - http://books.google.com/books?id=1yPOhLagyaAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=np_WVH26aw&sig=k1XNoKyi-8uzDDktEvhSIfEWEFU&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=13&ved=0CG8Q6AEwDA#v=onepage&q&f=false

"The Giza Death Star Destroyed" - http://books.google.com/books?id=_gc9RexD2PcC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=uhHeOewjyp&sig=RFpFbT-X16DJzgDVfjkEeaZa4MM&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q&f=false

"The Cosmic War" - http://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-War-Interplanetary-Warfare-Physics/dp/1931882754/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277149735&sr=8-1

Also, the work of Richard Hoagland exposes an evidential trail that supports Dr. Farrell's conclusions:

"Dark Missions" - http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/luna_darkmission.htm

By your earlier statement, Straker, (Comment # 105) I conclude you need no evidence supporting the theory that the Arc of the Covenant was once housed within the Great Pyramid at Cheops, but if anyone would like additional links, simply ask....

[Straker]

Dear Observer,

Thankyou very much for taking the time to look through my research on the topic, and also for the link. In 2004 after I published the article, I did a lot of searching for new material on the same subject, and came across a couple of those you mentioned, regarding the Giza Death Star. I also found that John Cadman had reproduced without permission, my dual chambers diagram, by getting his CAD guy to basically duplicate and flip the 3D image he already had on his site.

Little did he realise that I had accessed the Internet Archive and taken a screengrab of his page when there was only a single set of chambers there, and I believe he then later removed it. For a while however he was claiming it was his own idea.

The biggest give away however, was that there was no lead up to how he came to that conclusion, no backup work, the image just suddenly appeared! Quite funny.

I haven't seen Dr Farrell's work, so will go and do some research into what that is about, thankyou.

Now, the thing that really interests me here, is that if there are indeed two sets of chambers, and two "Arks" or "Arcs", and we already know that one of them was removed...then that would mean another one just sitting there, which would change everything we know about Egypt and Religion.

Can you imagine actually entering for the first time, that second set of untouched chambers.

Waseda University have done some scanning work in there that also corroborates the idea. Here's one of their links:

http://www.talkingpyramids.com/two-secret-pyramid-chambers-revealed/

Best
James

[Straker]

In January of 1987, a Japanese team from Waseda University under the direction of Sakuji Yoshimura, out of the Egyptian Culture Center at the Tokyo-based Waseda University, conducted their project under the name, Pyramid Investigation Mission. They followed up on the French team's finding with the use of GPR equipment during their first visit between January 22nd and February 9th, and also conducted surveys within the Sphinx enclosure. They returned for a second visit between September 12th and the 23rd, basically repeating the same surveys but with improved equipment and techniques.

The Japanese used their GPR equipment to survey the floors and walls of the Queen's Chamber, which resulted in an indicated presence of a cavity about three meters behind the north wall. Next, they moved their equipment into the passage itself, where they surveyed the entire length of the west wall, which indicated that the cavity was perhaps a concealed passageway running parallel to the horizontal passage. Their report, in part, stated that:

"This newly discovered passage starts from a point only one block's width away from the northern wall of [the] Queen's Chamber. The reflection ends at a point approximately 30m north of [the] Queen's Chamber. Therefore the passage is thought to come to an end here or turn west at a right angle."

The Japanese team also believed that they detected what appeared to be a cavity beneath the floor of the horizontal passage about 1.5 meters below its surface. They believed this cavity might be as much as three meters deep and that it was probably filled with sand.

The sand became an issue with many alternative thinkers. Many rumors about the sand surfaced, including that it was radioactive. This was not true, but when the Japanese team examined the sand and compared it to samples in the Giza and Saqqara area, they found that is differed considerably from that material. Apparently, the sand may have been brought in from some distance. Though Egyptologists believe that the Great Pyramid builders may have used sand filled cavities to buffer the effects of earthquakes, this does not explain why local sand could not have been used.

As for the possible cavities, little further investigation seems to have taken place, and apparently none will anytime in the immediate future, though we can hardly blame the Egyptian authorities. Someone would probably constantly be drilling holes into Egypt's best known monument if given the chance.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/secretchambers4.htm

[observer]

[....snip]
As for the possible cavities, little further investigation seems to have taken place, and apparently none will anytime in the immediate future, though we can hardly blame the Egyptian authorities. Someone would probably constantly be drilling holes into Egypt's best known monument if given the chance.


My first thoughts, when I read this were, why doesn't someone start looking down in what is known as 'the pit', or that subterranean chamber under the pyramid?
http://www.guardians.net/egypt/gp3.htm

If there were going to be any interconnection with an undiscovered chamber, the connection would most likely be from underneath.

We already know there is a vast underground tunneling system - a hypogeum of sorts - around the Giza Plateau dating back to antiquity.

[Symbolseeker]

The only three things I know for sure about the Giza pyramid is that it was carved out of a solid piece of rock called a yardung - rock that is left after erosion takes place around it, it was carved around 10,000 BC by the same culture that built Gobekli Tepi, and it represents life's cycles, as does Yggdrasil - symbolizing the great year at autumnal equinox, when Virgo and Leo are on the ecliptic. (I have other sphinx info at Once Upon a Time: World of symbols) Reference: Duncan-Enzmann.

[observer]

[....snip]

Thank you for your input, Symbolseeker.

You are referring to the Sphinx with the details of your comment.

I don't believe you have read the thread thoroughly, because if you had, you would have realized this thread is about the Great Pyramid on the Giza Plateau, not the Sphinx.

The actual date of any structure on the Giza Plateau is totally a matter of conjecture. I've seen plausible theories that take the dating back to between 35,000 and 50,000 years ago. The actual age of the structures, and which one came first are all a matter of opinion. There is yet no hard evidence to support any single theory.

.... but, thank you for commenting.

[nomadguy]

So was the "Arc" the battery?
Was it in the kings chamber crypt? What do you think?
Carry on ~

[DeDukshyn]

The problem with the word 'Ascension' as currently used (and misused!) in the New Age community is that if you ask 100 people, you'll get 101 different answers. This is a joke, but you get what I mean.

I buy the following ideas/ concepts:


Enlightenment / nirvana / samsara
Existence as a liberated spiritual being after body death
A general present-time raising of consciousness among people here on Planet Earth.

I do not buy:


Transcendence to another dimension (what dimension, and why?)
People suddenly physically disappearing (can anyone see how silly this is?)
The Earth 'dividing into two' - one Ascended Earth, and another not (again, why?)

I'd invite anyone here to identify the actual sources of these notions. (At least then we could look at who first suggested these ideas, and why.)



Well I may be a few years too late address this and it is a bit off topic ... What I see in Bill's 6 considerations to ascension (both the "buy" and "not buy" groups), are degrees of vibratory shift -- ALL valid, and all related to shifts in vibrations of consciousness and/or subatomic energy.

Let's examine each of the "don't buy" just a little:

•Transcendence to another dimension (what dimension, and why?)
-don't think in terms of dimensions, but rather vibrations. Consider music (the art of vibration of the air), in that there are repeating patterns of vibratory density. Each repeat is defined by us as an "octave", where middle C is a certain vibration and C2 is an entirely different one, yet creates the exact same note -- the note can exists on any of several octaves, depending on the resonant vibratory frequency. So not dimensions - vibratory states, sometimes referred to loosely as "density" (a similar concept).

•People suddenly physically disappearing (can anyone see how silly this is?)
-again vibrations. Water vapour vibrates on a much faster scale than liquid water - the ONLY difference between these two states. Is it SILLY that water evaporates and disappears from our senses when you raise it's vibration? No, it is not silly - it is merely vibratory physics.

•The Earth 'dividing into two' - one Ascended Earth, and another not (again, why?)
-merely two resonant frequencies separating. But I don't have first hand knowledge on how this would actually happen, nor can I give an example. But I do see how it may be theroretically possible.


The universe is not nearly as complex as we think it is. My 2 cents ;)
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[Straker]

Hi Nomadguy,

My personal opinion about how the Great pyramid may have worked is this:

I think there are two identical sets of chambers, that have a specific design and layout for the purpose of tuning the energy created in the Kings Chamber.

Yes, I do believe there were two "Arks" creating Arcs, and perhaps that they either created the white powder gold, or that they required white powder gold as part of the system of joining together two energy "fields".

I think Gardiner mentioned in his book, that he believes two fields coming together could create an inter-dimensional portal. (stargate)

All we really know is that the grand gallery appears like a resonance chamber, with the portcullis acting like a kind of tunable reed, and the red granite in the chamber can withstand very high temperatures.

If there was only one set of passageways, then we have to wonder why the sarcophagus is not located directly below the centreline of the peak of the pyramid? Only when seen in duality, does any of it make sense, and you then have the male/female - yin/yang - north/south (magnetic) arrangements complete.

Best
Straker

[Straker]

Here is another photo I found showing a hole in the floor exactly at the point in my earlier diagram where there could be a connecting passage.

http://andrew-vk.narod.ru/public/Crematio/KhufuHole.jpg

[Straker]

This is another image of the duality of the chambers that I created back in March 2004.

http://www.antigravitymovie.com/mirror1.jpg

And then suddenly, as if by magic, the following image appeared on John Cadman's pyramid website. (NB: Originally, this image only showed one set of chambers, until he viewed my website). Once he realised I was on to him, he removed it...(but I kept the image just in case).

The silly thing is that he forgot to ask his CAD guy to delete the duplicates of the so-called air passages from the original, so he suddenly had 8 of them...hahahahaa!

http://www.antigravitymovie.com/mirrored.jpg

[161803398]

Interesting: pyramid means fire in the middle. He says its a portal.

http://www.gardinersworld.com/?cat=16

[observer]

[....snip]
And then suddenly, as if by magic, the following image appeared on John Cadman's pyramid website. (NB: Originally, this image only showed one set of chambers, until he viewed my website). Once he realised I was on to him, he removed it...(but I kept the image just in case).


You are aware, Straker, that this entire study began over in the old Avalon Forum in a thread created by John Cadman, aren't you? Earlier in this thread, I referenced that old Avalon link. Here it is again:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20098

For whatever reason, John didn't choose to join this new Avalon Forum when it was created.

This thread is thankful that you decided to come forward with your information. Your research is shedding new light on the possibilities.


****

There is another thread in the Old Avalon Forum that I feel is very relevant to what you are presenting:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20279

Richard Gabriel and The Giza Geomatrix Exposure Team has been interviewed by Kerry Cassidy in the past:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxN6cL4wAfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxN6cL4wAfk

The work the Giza Team is doing in the tunnel systems under the plaza is cutting edge. It would be fantastic if you would contact these people with this information - in the event they haven't already seen it - giving this team a focus point on where to follow the tunnel system.

You can contact Richard Gabriel directly by clicking on this link:
The Giza Geomatrix Exposure (http://www.richardgabriel.info/)

[observer]

So was the "Arc" the battery?
Was it in the kings chamber crypt? What do you think?
Carry on ~

Hi nomadguy,

In addition to what Straker said in his comment #121,


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I would like to add the following observations:

In his trilogy on the Great Pyramid at Giza, Dr. Joseph Farrell suggests the structure was part of an hyperdimensional weapons system that was created in remote antiquity. He suggests the legend of Atlantis was actually an account of an off-planet civilization that formally inhabited another body in our solar system that is now the asteroid belt. From the evidence he has gathered, he theorizes this planet was destroyed in a great Cosmic War that occurred in remote antiquity.

In Farrell's hypothesis, the Great Pyramid at Giza, along with other similar structures found around the globe were all part of a planet-busting weapons system.

You should read some of Farrell's work which I have referenced earlier in this thread, here:


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[nomadguy]

hmm so then with this info(above) I am likening to the idea that this system, could have actually caused a pole shift. And thus because of that movement out of sync the system itself stopped working and has not since.
~Like magnets when they are bounced away from one another due to the magnetic tug of war.

Carry on~

[observer]

hmm so then with this info(above) I am likening to the idea that this system, could have actually caused a pole shift. And thus becuase of that movement out of sync the system itself stopped working and has not since.
~Like magnets when they are bounced away from one another due to the magnetic tug of war.

Carry on~

More to the point, the system no longer works because the major components are missing, as in the Arc of the Covenant.

[nomadguy]

hmm so then with this info(above) I am likening to the idea that this system, could have actually caused a pole shift. And thus becuase of that movement out of sync the system itself stopped working and has not since.
~Like magnets when they are bounced away from one another due to the magnetic tug of war.

Carry on~

More to the point, the system no longer works because the major components are missing, as in the Arc of the Covenant.

Oh yes, agreed,

then to clarify, in this tangent I am speaking of the time when this event might have happened moreover. ~And the arc's might have still been there in place.
In that timing some odd magnetic behaviors might have occurred on a large scale, leaving a pattern or mark.
It might be large. like the size of a large ravine or canyon or strewn about huge boulders,
like the red sea looks perhaps, At any rate I speculate that a HUGE mark might have been left behind from this event.

So right after the event I am looking at what might have happened.

Have you ever noticed that Northern Africa is largely like a plane of sand covering a completely different contour?
(on the large scale, not discounting sand dunes topography, this is speaking about the base-rock layers contour being softened almost completely by the sands)

If a magnetic jump was caused by a break in this Pyramid system or some other event caused it.
A large body of water might have literally slid from one place to another. Like onto a large continent or continents. And unimaginably fast way "the sky is falling" sort of event that would surely leave a traumatic scar on the physce of any witness.

The research thread that Robert Shoch presents, (Erosion on the Sphynx)
I feel, is connected to this, as the erosion might be one of these marks left by this event around 11-13000 years ago.
If the N Africa/Europe continents of that time had a water body slide up onto it ~ in a magnetic manner,
to the effect that water moves without much weight, IE like a cloud then quickly drops. Deluge

Afterward
Then the water slowly drained out, moving the nile and leaving behind a lot of silt and salt.
Carry on,



I use the spelling "arc" on purpose. Adding that I feel the meaning within the geometry of the "arc" is precedent, like relating to a law of nature, but on a much larger scale say planetary or galactic arcs, so on our small level it would seem completely and utterly flat. IE time-as we know it.

[ghostrider]

the pyramids are remnants of early humans that came from out there to mars then to earth in the moon. they left pyramids behind everywhere they went. part of our ancient human culture, high technology lost in atlantis/lemuria. we are decendants of those space/world builders...look at us today, we go out into unknown territory, build what we need, create and grow , then move out to more unknown build , create what we need . we are curious resourceful explorers... those looking for ET, your looking for yourself. go look in the mirror. it's not out there , it's right in front of you...you are the ET with bits and pieces of lots of alien races inside you, picked up along the way in the journey to earth....

[observer]

the pyramids are remnants of early humans that came from out there to mars then to earth in the moon. they left pyramids behind everywhere they went. [....snip]

Yes ghostrider,

You are quite correct regarding pyramid structures strewn about the solar system.

This is more of the evidence NASA has been airbrushing from the public view relating to ancient artifacts discovered by space probes and sent back from missions conducted throughout the solar system.

I'm not so sure this is evidence of a "migration" per se. It appears to be more evidence of a "lost civilization" colonizing various planets within our solar system and then going to war with discordant elements within that civilization.... or perhaps going to war with elements from outside of that civilization. Whichever is the case, there can be no doubt there was a Cosmic War in remote antiquity.

[ghostrider]

you are right on the wave, high tech people making war for the conquest of space , thinking only of preserving their way of life. thier system was unstable and collapsed on the journey here, so they had to make a new home quickly. the pyramids are to remind them of home. their technology was their undoing, I fear we follow the same program if we are not careful...

[Straker]

Hi Observer,

No I wasn't aware of that, regarding John Cadman, so thank you very indeed much for the links.

I just found Lawrence Gardners book, and will quote from page 113, as it's important I think:

"Electrons normally travel around the nucleus in pairs, a forward-spinning electron and a reverse-spinning electron. But when these come under the influence of a high spin nucleus, all the electrons begin spinning in the same direction."

"When perfectly correlated, the electrons turn to pure white light and it becomes impossible for the individual atoms in the high spin substance to hold together. On that account, they cannot retain the metallic state, and the substance falls apart to become a white monatomic powder"

"In simple terms, the white powder is created by striking the metal under strict controlled conditions, with a designated high heat from a DC electric Arc, a directional current between two electrodes."

Straker

[observer]

The following video is a very good theory of how the Great Pyramid at Giza was built. Keep in mind, some of the details of this theory are being molded into the orthodox template of the Egyptian Model. This manipulation of some of the details is an obvious muse to make the Houdin Model fit the contemporary Egyptologist theory.

There is some very interesting science being exposed in this documentary, however. I Think Jean-Pierre Houdin is actually onto something, here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wBbNrUGj3I&list=PLA4B9B16F82C8CBC6&index=5&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wBbNrUGj3I&list=PLA4B9B16F82C8CBC6&index=5&feature=plpp_video

Pay particular attention to what is said at the 52 min., 20 sec. mark on the timer regarding hidden rooms around the Kings Chamber that were discovered during Houdin's investigation. Could these be the rooms that Straker refered to in his post #115, here:


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Forget the spin being placed on the dialogue regarding burial funeral chambers. This structure was NEVER intended as a tomb. This rhetoric is only necessary to keep access open to the Houdin Team. If they began diverging from the orthodox theory, their access would be denied.

Could these rooms actually be the mirror-image passages that Straker is hypothesizing?

[Rogerc]

shiva,

Nothing in your comment has any basis in reality, with exception of possibly a repository for the Arc of the Covenant. (Even this theory has not been documented with archaeological evidence - it's just a theory.)

Everything else you have mentioned is the figment of some one's over active imagination. You're getting your information from "channeled" material. Everything being sent to Humanity through telepathy is "tainted" truth. The Mass of Humanity has been lied to since before the Dawn of Civilization This is how the Draconian Reptiles have controlled the Mass of Humanity since they "created" us. Everything you think you know.... is a LIE !!!

Review the "real" evidence (do some research into what Maxwell, Icke, and Sitchin are saying - all "hard" evidence from the record). This is the only possible conclusion one can come to.

These Reptiles are very clever at what they do. They've been fooling Humanity for a VERY long time !!!

First off, who are you to tell another that what they know or believe is a lie? You make such a bold arrogant statement, while yourself spouting on about theories conjured by others, that may possibly have no basis in reality themselves. This post is just another 'my belief vs. your belief'.

"Hard" evidence from Maxwell, Icke, and Sitchin; is that a joke? Those who are truly fooled are those that think they are the only ones with the truth. Complete Hypocrisy and arrogance.

As for the pyramids, there is no definite proof as to what they were originally intended for. All we can resort to is speculation and guesses based on given details about them. Without concrete proof, any idea is just as good as any other.

You twits - it's a giant bloody Lego.

Whoops - back to the Pub....

[Rogerc]

Simple me. I thought it was a temple of initiation where someone could ascend.

That makes two of us ..... Initiation and healing as far as im concerned . Not everything on this world has come from negative entities .

John.d - your avatar makes me feel ill - puleeeze change

[heyokah]

Simple me. I thought it was a temple of initiation where someone could ascend.

That makes two of us ..... Initiation and healing as far as im concerned . Not everything on this world has come from negative entities .

John.d - your avatar makes me feel ill - puleeeze change

Dear Rogeric, 39 posts in 4 days? That's why you didn't have the time to find an avatar.

MODS I think we have a (69-year-old) troll here.....

Rog, you'd better stay where you think you could possibly rock...... The Pub.

[gripreaper]

David Sereda, on his most recent interview with Kerry Cassidy mentions "Revelations of the Pyramids" by Patrice Pooyard, as the best synopsis on the pyramids to date.

I can't seem to find it. has anyone got a link to where I can watch it?

[jorr lundstrom]

Have you seen this photo of this shaft with the metal rods coming
through the wall? There is an idea that the rods have been connected
with some kind of electric devise, maybe a battery or sth similar.
There is a rumour that this device was stolen by this man who was
in charge of all the archeological sites in Egypt. Its said to be done
during the tumultous last year.


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/Fakeshaft.jpg


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[meeradas]

David Sereda, on his most recent interview with Kerry Cassidy mentions "Revelations of the Pyramids" by Patrice Pooyard, as the best synopsis on the pyramids to date.

I can't seem to find it. has anyone got a link to where I can watch it?

'sit that one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YCi4fW7CxY&hd=1

7YCi4fW7CxY

[observer]

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Thank you gripreaper and meeradas for your input in this thread. This video was already posted by Kerrigan at comment #97.


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It was removed from YouTube for copy write violations. I'm guessing the same thing will happen to this link as well. It would behoove anyone interested in this topic to view this link before it is again remove.

Kerrigan pointed-out in the above comment there was some very interesting data at 1 hr., 13min. Dr. Joseph Farrell makes this point in his work as well.

[Rogerc]

Simple me. I thought it was a temple of initiation where someone could ascend.

That makes two of us ..... Initiation and healing as far as im concerned . Not everything on this world has come from negative entities .

John.d - your avatar makes me feel ill - puleeeze change

Dear Rogeric, 39 posts in 4 days? That's why you didn't have the time to find an avatar.

MODS I think we have a (69-year-old) troll here.....

Rog, you'd better stay where you think you could possibly rock...... The Pub.

Hey guys ,you're spot on it's a case of sleep apnoea and dead set boredom - but that avatar still makes me queazy. Je suis tres fatigue et je ne parle pas Francais depuis douze ans - and auto correct is driving me nuts, that was supposed to be in English

It is sort of cheery that you bother to count my posts though not only that but the age check is kinda cute :laugh:

[markpierre]

It's our collective responsibility to figure-out how the mechanism works, so that we ALL can get out of this prison. Ascension will not be complete until the entire "body of humanity" returns to singularity....

It's your individual responsibility. You don't experience a 'we', you interpret one. 'We' don't get out, you do. The rest is just concept to justify this uncomfortable (read unreal) moment. Time isn't linear.
And it's not a mechanism, it's an action as natural as learning how to breath air. Are the mechanisms that circulate embryonic fluid as important to it as 'taking a breath'?
Bang, you're in the air. Bang, you're breathing it.

Not much conceptual thought in it. You can refuse for a while, and make it more or less fearful. That's about as much as you have to do with it.
Karma is correction and preparation, and you don't have much to do with that either.

[heyokah]

Hey guys ,you're spot on it's a case of sleep apnoea and dead set boredom - but that avatar still makes me queazy. Je suis tres fatigue et je ne parle pas Francais depuis douze ans - and auto correct is driving me nuts, that was supposed to be in English

It is sort of cheery that you bother to count my posts though not only that but the age check is kinda cute :laugh:


Rogerc,

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Silly me.... I thought the Age-Posts-Tanks-thingy was your avatar.
And, I still think you're a troll. Kinda cute isn't it....

[Rogerc]

Hey guys ,you're spot on it's a case of sleep apnoea and dead set boredom - but that avatar still makes me queazy. Je suis tres fatigue et je ne parle pas Francais depuis douze ans - and auto correct is driving me nuts, that was supposed to be in English

It is sort of cheery that you bother to count my posts though not only that but the age check is kinda cute :laugh:


Rogerc,

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Silly me.... I thought the Age-Posts-Tanks-thingy was your avatar.
And, I still think you're a troll. Kinda cute isn't it....

It is indeed - thank you.

If you are referring to me as a member of a diverse sapient race in Azeroth - you are indeed correct.

Thanks so much for that wisdom - it's kinda cute....

[gripreaper]

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Thank you gripreaper and meeradas for your input in this thread. This video was already posted by Kerrigan at comment #97.


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It was removed from YouTube for copy write violations. I'm guessing the same thing will happen to this link as well. It would behoove anyone interested in this topic to view this link before it is again remove.

Kerrigan pointed-out in the above comment there was some very interesting data at 1 hr., 13min. Dr. Joseph Farrell makes this point in his work as well.

Jackovesk posted the link on another thread, so I found it last night.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43567--Action-Packed--Kerry-Cassidy-interviews-David-Sereda..-&p=465188&highlight=jackovesk#post465188

[TargeT]

This is another image of the duality of the chambers that I created back in March 2004.

http://www.antigravitymovie.com/mirror1.jpg

are there any exterior archeological confirmations to this theory that are visible in other media (ie "evidence" for remote / web researchers) ?

[observer]

are there any exterior archeological confirmations to this theory that are visible in other media (ie "evidence" for remote / web researchers) ?

Listen to this interview, TargeT, beginning at around the 15 min, 30 sec mark:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiAOtE7evQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiAOtE7evQI

Also, this one at the 52 min, 20 sec mark:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wBbNrUGj3I&list=PLA4B9B16F82C8CBC6&index=5&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wBbNrUGj3I&list=PLA4B9B16F82C8CBC6&index=5&feature=plpp_video

And, also here:
http://news.discovery.com/history/great-pyramid-giza-hidden-chambers-110127.html

With regard to the discovery article, I would suggest ignoring the hype about 'funeral chambers'. This is an obvious muse to make Jean-Pierre Houdin's theory fit the orthodox Egyptologist's template.

[Straker]

Quite a few slips off topic here..

[TargeT]

Quite a few slips off topic here..

that was the only modivation for my question honestly... haha; I felt it was quite weak but I will review what observer posted, very interesting ideas.

[nomadguy]

Check this out,
Chris Dunn and Brien Foerster on Coasttocoastam, very much on topic.
qkQC_Ua4zpM

[observer]

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TargetT,

I was not thanking Straker's comment with any reference to what you had posted. I welcome your comment and those type of questions in this thread.

I was thanking, and I'm assuming the others were also thanking Straker, for pointing-out the needless chat room type banter that other members seem to want to add to a serious discussion regarding the purpose of the Great Pyramid.

There are other threads on this forum designed for those wishing to prove the size of their intellect with glib quips.

[the_flyingboy]

From what I know about the pyramid is that it was a power plant ,healing place and probably had a portal to travel among the stars and if you look at the 90plus pyramids of Egypt they all form star constellations ( as above so below).

[nomadguy]

I truly think that this was "multi-use" and that it might have done ~all of those things and more... And that this was a "global system", that also had control or heavy influence over things like the weather, and might have been able to create a controlled, intelligent geomagnetic field of sorts. I am still looking into this one...

[Cartomancer]

I truly think that this was "multi-use" and that it might have done ~all of those things and more... And that this was a "global system", that also had control or heavy influence over things like the weather, and might have been able to create a controlled, intelligent geomagnetic field of sorts. I am still looking into this one...

Agree. Among the many technological and informational aspects of Giza is the perpetuation of a mystery. The spiritual aspects of the pyramids are sometimes overlooked when analyzing their technological aspects. These structures set one on a path of self discovery that kind of spans the space between spiritual beliefs and rationalism. Contemplating their purpose makes one a student of their mysteries. Maybe this is part of what is supposed to be going on there as well.

[the_flyingboy]

And something else.... Get the frequencies right I'm very sure 432 hz is the best frequency,check it out.

[Straker]

I truly think that this was "multi-use" and that it might have done ~all of those things and more... And that this was a "global system", that also had control or heavy influence over things like the weather, and might have been able to create a controlled, intelligent geomagnetic field of sorts. I am still looking into this one...

Speaking of weather modification, I came across a thing called the 'ATLANT" antenna, not far from where I live, that was being used as a weather modification device, approved by the government. Note the structure..



Straker

[nomadguy]

Well I'll say I think you nailed it there Straker

[heyokah]

And something else.... Get the frequencies right I'm very sure 432 hz is the best frequency,check it out.

Yes you are right , flyingboy.
The original works of Mozart and Bach are composed in 432Hz, but today everyone plays them in 440Hz. The instruments on which Mozart and Verdi composed their masterpieces were in 432Hz

In 1939 Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels dictated 440Hz as the standard tuning pitch. This to let people think and feel in a certain manner, and to keep them a prisoner of a certain consciousness.


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What I found:

- "Revolution in Music: A Brief History of Musical Tuning"

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev_tuning_hist.html

- "Does Conspiracy Extend to Musical Scale?"

http://www.henrymakow.com/musicalscale.html


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If we examine the 20the century mass consciousness and the use of A=440hz as possible mind control in mass media pushed through media & television as the "British Invasion" of Rock & Roll, we see the potential anti social behaviors and possible dangers of using higher and higher pitches as central references for music.

This information was well known over a hundred years ago and Rudolf Steiner warned mankind that using "Luciferic Brightness and Arhimanic tones in music could bring a condensing of the satanic greed forces in the west instead of "C" Prime=128hz (Concert A=432hz) which he mentioned was "Christ" consciousness of ascendant energy and angel "Micheal" sun tone energy in the collective awareness in the evolution of man.
Unfortunately most western music, including popular new age healing music is still tuned at unnatural equal temperment concert pitch A=440hz tuning. The difference between concert pitch A=440hz and Concert A=432hz is only 8 cycles per second, but it is a perceptible difference of awareness in the human consciousness experience of the dream called reality.


- About the cymatics research in the King's chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza in 1997:


We wondered what the geometry of 432hz would look like using Cymatics so I contacted John Stuart Reid, the co-designer of the CymaScope™ regarding his wonderful invention and the geometry of the A=432hz tone.

The CymaScope™ is the pinnacle of cymatics research and is the concept of John who as an acoustics engineer, carried out cymatics research in the King's chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza in 1997. The CymaScope™ is an accurate device that measures acoustic vibrations of nodal points that form patterns of geometry in different liquid or solid mediums.
The science of cymatics which is geometry through vibration was researched and published by Dr. Hans Jenny in 1967, in his book called The Study of Wave Phenomena.

Here is a transcript of John's correspondence with Brian T' Collins;
Read further:
http://www.elfagot.com/node/391

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It appeared that the King's chamber resonates very strongly to an F# chord, and the Kings Chamber coffer resonates to A, which is the Minor third of F-sharp.
729hz and its octaves are the big notes: it is a perfect F-sharp when A is tuned to 432hz.
Read more:
http://www.audioease.com/IR/VenuePages/giza.html

The number 432 is found in the geometry of sacred and ancient temples all around the world.
For instance, one side of the Great Pyramid, Egypt, at its sea level foundation, is 432 Earth Units (51.49 cm).
The great Pyramid of the Sun of Teotihuacan in Mexico, has an overall base of 864 STU (Standard Teotihuacan Units) which is twice 432.

The number 432 is everywhere....


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"Sacred Frequencies"

http://altered-states.net/barry/update205/index.htm

[heyokah]

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"Revolution in Music: A Brief History of Musical Tuning"

[observer]

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[MariaDine]

From recent studies, the original purpose if the pyramids - all of them, built on Earth and on other planets of the Solar System - was the stabilization of the magnetic fields of the planets, after the explosion of the planet, that is now the Asteroid Belt.

[ThePythonicCow]

From recent studies, the original purpose if the pyramids - all of them, built on Earth and on other planets of the Solar System - was the stabilization of the magnetic fields of the planets, after the explosion of the planet, that is now the Asteroid Belt.

Can you provide a source for this interesting claim, for those of us who would read further?

[observer]

To all those posting comments:

The resonance tuning of 440 Hz in the kings chamber of the Great Pyramid was from the work of Christopher Dunn in his book "The Giza Power Plant".

Surely there was some reason for this particular resonance, however, much earlier in this thread, I stipulated to the work of Dr. Joseph Farrell with regard to the actual purpose of this particular structure, thereby rendering the thesis in the opening post of this thread a moot issue.

Dr. Farrell's work builds on the work of Christopher Dunn, and takes the function of the Great Pyramid far beyond a simple power plant concept.

In his trilogy, The Giza Death Star compilation, Farrell submits the overwhelming evidence for the use of this structure in great antiquity. It is Dr. Farrell's conclusion this structure was part of a weapon system which was used to create the asteroid belt out of what was formally a planet.

Dr. Farrell goes on, in his book "Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Men" to document the evidence for a global megalithic civilization in great antiquity. It is his hypothesis this megalithic civilization was the result of surviving members of a great cosmic war.

One must research all the links I've given earlier in this thread regarding Dr. Farrell's work.


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[observer]

Obviously, there are many different theories regarding the purpose of the Great Pyramid at Giza. Some of these theories are totally unsupported by the evidence, yet many subscribe to them.

By Dr. Joseph Farrell's own admission, his is only a "theory".

I began my research into this phenomenon at the age of 15, in 1962 in the form of a high school term paper on Edgar Cayce. After a lifetime of studying this issue, I've come to the conclusion Dr. Farrell's theories are the ones most supported by the available evidence.

[Straker]

More on the Schiller Institute:

"The recent rediscoveries of the vibratory/oscillatory nature of the universe indicates that current contemporary A=440hz international concert pitch standard may possibly generate an unhealthy effect or anti-social behavior in the consciousness of human beings."

http://www.omega432.com/music.html

I listened to the "Silent Night" versions on this site and I must admit the 440hz felt more heavy and depressing for me, the 432hz version felt warmer and lighter.

Straker

[Straker]

I'm sure that in Bruce Cathie's books there will be a reference to this harmonic of light frequency, and certainly for those that know his work, one of his early books that I have here is called Harmonic 288, which is also mentioned in that Omega432 page: "D becomes 576 Hz which becomes 9 Hz, 18, 36, 72, 144, 288, 1152 in other octaves."

Over the past 14 years I've spoken at length with Bruce about harmonics and he was the one that confirmed my calculations that the exact harmonic slope angle of the pyramid would be 51 49' 38", and not 51 51'. This is the only angle that appears using the two circle design method I have displayed on my website, which was checked in a CAD program for accuracy.

This was one of the main basis for the feature Film script that I have been working on with him all these years, titled AntiGravity, and the opening sequence was based around Dr Jarl's stories of sonic levitation of giant stones in Tibet.

[Straker]

This is one of my concept art pieces for the AntiGravity film, featuring a shot from the opening sequence with the sonic levitation. Relating this back to the Great Pyramid and other sites that have megalithic stone blocks, the use of sound to alter physical reality or to resonate and nullify gravity is one of the main theories behind how these things were moved and lifted.

Is the Great Pyramid perhaps a coupled oscillator that stabilises the planet, or resonates in tune with it as part of it's workings?

I've always wondered if you could re-create and reverse the power generation properties of an electric motor by replacing the stator/coil with the atmosphere/magnetosphere etc and the magnets with the earth itself. After all, the earth is already rotating, and we can see the power of the electricity in the atmosphere every time there is an electrical storm.

Straker

[WhiteFeather]

An interesting perspective that i value from this channeled entity known as Ra. Sorry if this has been posted prior.

Ra: I am Ra. The larger pyramids were built by our ability using the forces of One. The stones are alive. It has not been so understood by the mind/body/spirit distortions of your culture. The purposes of the pyramids were two:

Firstly, to have a properly oriented place of initiation for those who wished to become purified or initiated channels for the Law of One.

Two, we wished then to carefully guide the initiates in developing a healing of the people whom they sought to aid and the planet itself. Pyramid after pyramid charged by the crystal and initiate were designed to balance the incoming energy of the One Creation with the many and multiple distortions of the planetary mind/body/spirit. In this effort we were able to continue work that brothers within the Confederation had effected through building of other crystal-bearing structures and thus complete a ring, if you will, of these about the Earth’s, as this instrument would have us vibrate it, surface.

This instrument begins to lose energy. We ask for one more query or subject and then we shall take our leave for this time/space.

Questioner: You might mention that originally there was a capstone on the pyramid at the top, what was it made of and how you moved the heavy blocks to build the pyramid. What technique was used for that?

Ra: I am Ra. I request that we be asked this question in our next worktime, as you would term the distortion sharing that our energies produce.

If you have any questions about the proper use of this mind/body/spirit, we would appreciate your asking them now.

Questioner: At the last session we had two questions that we were saving for this session: one having to do with the possible capstone on top of the Great Pyramid at Giza; the other having to do with how you moved the heavy blocks that make up the pyramid. I know these questions are of no importance with respect to the Law of One, but it was my judgment—and please correct me if I am wrong, and make the necessary suggestions—that this would provide an easy entry for those who would read the material that will eventually become a book. We are very grateful for your contact and will certainly take any suggestions as to how we should receive this information.

Ra: I am Ra. I will not suggest the proper series of questions. This is your prerogative as free agent of the Law of One having learned/understood that our social memory complex cannot effectually discern the distortions of the societal mind/body/spirit complex of your peoples. We wish now to fulfill our teach/learning honor/responsibility by answering what is asked. This only will suffice for we cannot plumb the depths of the distortion complexes which infect your peoples.

The first question, therefore, is the capstone. We iterate the unimportance of this type of data.

The so-called Great Pyramid had two capstones more here:

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=pyramid&st=any&o=s

[nomadguy]

I'm sure that in Bruce Cathie's books there will be a reference to this harmonic of light frequency, and certainly for those that know his work, one of his early books that I have here is called Harmonic 288, which is also mentioned in that Omega432 page: "D becomes 576 Hz which becomes 9 Hz, 18, 36, 72, 144, 288, 1152 in other octaves."

Over the past 14 years I've spoken at length with Bruce about harmonics and he was the one that confirmed my calculations that the exact harmonic slope angle of the pyramid would be 51 49' 38", and not 51 51'. This is the only angle that appears using the two circle design method I have displayed on my website, which was checked in a CAD program for accuracy.

This was one of the main basis for the feature Film script that I have been working on with him all these years, titled AntiGravity, and the opening sequence was based around Dr Jarl's stories of sonic levitation of giant stones in Tibet.

I wonder if the fibonacci sequence fits into this.

[Straker]

David Sereda, on his most recent interview with Kerry Cassidy mentions "Revelations of the Pyramids" by Patrice Pooyard, as the best synopsis on the pyramids to date.

I can't seem to find it. has anyone got a link to where I can watch it?

I have a copy of Revelations of the Pyramids on DVD it is EXCELLENT!

BTW David Sereda called me in the middle of the night once, back in 2006...he had no idea it was like 3am here in Australia, and I was freezing my butt off in the back garden so as not to wake the kids..

[Carmody]

geometry and thus... physical design and layout of a device, will be an overarching aspect of fields developed, insofar as how they integrate with this 3d reality.

here we see aspects of 3d considerations and environmental considerations being the key components of the build up of polarizing electrostatic charge.

The charge field is a plasma consideration and thus can integrate and react, in an elastic way at speeds that far outstrip that of solids.

they can create combined longitudinal and transverse waves, and thus transgress the 'known' or common Newtonian rules of scientific application regarding applying said math and measurements of solids.

the field is 'pre-loaded' in this 'electrostatic' charge development aspect, due to both wave types being present. Ie, parallel and perpendicular wave function as a combined phenomena, and elastic..thus providing a resonant saw tooth pump like action at the scalar FTL level, that reacts and combines with the '3d normal' world, regarding appearance of energetic egress. This, due to loading and position.

read this, about joe cells.

It sounds like this is a large component of the key to the activation/use location aspect.

A Joe Cell's Unit Charge

"I determined that as a Joe cell is being charged in its normal charge cycle, and while low level electrolysis is taking place; the cell develops a voltage that has never before been addressed. I refer to this voltage as unit charge. Unit charge can be in the hundreds or even thousands of volts."

I determined that as a Joe cell is being charged in its normal charge cycle, and while low level electrolysis is taking place, the cell develops a voltage that has never before been addressed. I refer to this voltage as unit charge. Unit charge can be in the hundreds or even thousands of volts. Both the cell and low voltage power supply charging it must be well insulated from an earth ground reference. Any ground reference at all will prevent the charge from developing. Since the AC line always has an earth ground reference, either by the equipment ground conductor or by the grounded neutral conductor, batteries must be used for the charging supply. I normally use two 12 volt batteries in series for a 24 volt source.

There are several reasons why unit charge has been overlooked. One is the requirement for not having earth ground reference. As an example: Placing the cell and its charging supply on a rubber mat atop a wooden table is not good enough; unit charge will not develop. What does work is placing both the cell and its charging batteries on four inches of high density styrofoam atop a plastic nonconductive table. This allows unit charge to progressively increase with time and not bleed off to earth ground.

Another reason unit charge has been overlooked is this: Unit charge can not be measured with a standard digital or analog voltmeter. The electric field around a charged cell collapses as soon as a meter probe touches the cell. Likewise touching the cell cylinders or cell water by hand also neutralizes the charge. Other surrounding static electric fields, including a person's own body charge, which can be thousands of volts depending on type of clothing and humidity, will also influence unit charge. The electric field produced by unit charge can easily be measured up to 20 feet from the cell.

One final reason for being overlooked: Like most other static charges, unit charge has an extremely low value ampacity rating. This makes its electric field very susceptible to collapsing when touched by hand or being in close proximity to other fields. However, the charge produces an electric field which can induce charge into other nearby metal objects without collapsing its field.


http://pesn.com/2012/05/19/9602096_A_Joe_cells_unit_charge/

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this all plays right into the aspect of such devices, orgone devices for example, having to build their charge in order to function properly. the vortex devices, like that of old German war (pre, during, and post war) experiments as reported by Joseph Farrell, and the vortex devices as reported by Dan Burisch, regarding temporal and locational shifting and transfer.

My own personal experiences in precognition in specific LOCATIONS (daylight waking precognitive vision) under repeatedly NEAR IDENTICAL weather originated 'charge field' considerations of the local environment -- confirms this, in all aspects.

Read the information provided by Charles fort, about piezoelectrically charged field conditions in specific areas providing temporal and locational wormholes in both antiquity and modern times, all in the same locational spots.

regarding that of the joe cell or the pyramid, we are probably talking about 3d linear time and dimensional interaction that is acting like a sawtooth-like, dimensional-resonant (dimensional transfer) system, that integrates with multiple dimensions.

so don't just screw around with these things, willy nilly, thinking you are going to save a buck on your electrical bill.

One could end up SERIOUSLY screwing up the local fabric of reality, including the stability and reality of the self and the ground it is walking on. Orgone devices that have built up a charge and are working resonantly have been known to affect the weather in large areas. The weather is a simple external or obvious aspect of what they are doing. What about the forces and reality conditions that you cannot easily 'see'?

Such as that of 3d and time, gravity, matter etc, which integrate with and go in-and come out of ...'other' dimensions. These sort of conditions....that are NOT so obvious?? What is happening in those areas?

So don't be a fool. seriously. :) for the sake of all you hold dear, and not that of which you hate and want to be free of, well..be careful. take it slow. Be in a state of knowing, before you touch it, otherwise the results could be, well.... not so good.

This is an area where ignorance is incredibly dangerous. Even the anecdotal information of deep black projects playing with this stuff has shown that even their 'knowing' has not stopped this stuff from being near catastrophic in it's application and use, when applied outside of morality, ethics, and forethought.

Take that result and line of thought and then apply the potential results to the anger and ignorance of some of the potential experimenters.

[iceni tribe]

robert temple has dated the mycerinus pyramid (which is the smallest of the three at giza)to 3090bc with a margin or error of + or - 500 years using professor Ioannis Liritzis new dating method called optical thermoluminescence.

so even if we take the very latest date of 2590bc it's still to early even for cheops who was said to have built the first pyramid .
i guess that now dr hawas has been given the boot we can get some proper research going in Egypt i find out how old cheops and cheprens pyramids are, as permission to date these was thwarted at the last minute by hawas.
one thing is for sure these pyramids were usurped by cheops and chepren and not built by them , in fact Robert has incredible evidence to state exactly were these 4 th dynastey pharaohs are buried and it wasn't in the pyramids.

here is his evidence
http://www.egyptiandawn.info/multimedia.html

[observer]

[....snip]

....regarding that of the joe cell or the pyramid, we are probably talking about 3d linear time and dimensional interaction that is acting like a sawtooth-like, dimensional-resonant (dimensional transfer) system, that integrates with multiple dimensions.

so don't just screw around with these things, willy nilly, thinking you are going to save a buck on your electrical bill.

One could end up SERIOUSLY screwing up the local fabric of reality, including the stability and reality of the self and the ground it is walking on. Orgone devices that have built up a charge and are working resonantly have been known to affect the weather in large areas. The weather is a simple external or obvious aspect of what they are doing. What about the forces and reality conditions that you cannot easily 'see'?

Such as that of 3d and time, gravity, matter etc, which integrate with and go in-and come out of ...'other' dimensions. These sort of conditions....that are NOT so obvious?? What is happening in those areas?

[....snip]

What Carmody is speculating about, here, fits right into what Dr. Joseph Farrell has been documenting in his work.

In Dr. Farrell's book, "The Cosmic War" , and also in his Giza Death Star Trilogy, he suggests the Great Pyramid was used as an hyperdimensional weapon as part of a Cosmic War waged in great antiquity.

There is also much speculation regarding the Arc of the Covenant being a part of that weapons system in the work of several researchers.

[Hervé]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmsuninJRz1qjdx9ro1_1280.jpg

Taken from Houman's pics in the Horus-Ra thread


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leudipiXKU1qzl5e0o1_1280.jpg

[nearing]

I am sorry if this has been posted in this lengthy thread already - I don't have the time to go through and check.

Is think this person has done a good job explaining how the Great pyramid was used to create Tesla-like energy for Egypt.

OvdlZ1roc1s

[iceni tribe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9lTB0hTNU

The Code is an ancient matrix system built up of monuments all across the globe. These monuments include megalithic stone works, pyramids, circular works, effigies, and ancient earth mound. Each structure is a point in a remarkable global matrix which explains a global positioning system involving the mathematical precisions of the Earth. In order to "read" this matrix one must first change the current Prime Meridian back to the pyramid fields at Giza. For longitude the ancient builders referenced their original Prime Meridian that ran from pole to pole marked by The Great Pyramid at Giza. Today it can be found at 31 degrees, 08 minutes, and 00.8 seconds to the east of our modern Greenwich Prime Meridian. For latitude, ancient monuments were referenced to the same equator that we use today.

Once we do this, properly, the monuments of the global matrix system become as the individual pages of an encyclopedia, beautifully preserved through numbers and maps. Batteries not included or required. The access key is curiosity.

[Haujeancontactee]

I recommend reading an E book called "The Eye of Ra" by Truman Cash. Truman Cash is an abductee and a social implant. If anyone needs clarification on what a social implant is it's discussed in "The Eye of Ra", and his other book titled "The Programming of the Planet". Or you can simply ask me and I'll explain it to you. You can find both of these books for free online with a little searching. The reason that I talk about these books is because he's the only one who has information that correlates with my own personal contact experiences with ETs. His information represented the other half of the puzzle for me and the man is my opinion is 100% legitimate in his claims. In his books he recounts past life regressions where he was able to get around the blocks that the ETs has put into him. According to him and this is also what I've been told personally about the great pyramid, is that it's only purpose was a ritual chamber for the pharaohs and the priesthood. Regardless of what you've read, and this is according to Graham Hancock, Egypt goes back as far as 30,000 years. This is based on a wall carving in one of the temples which lists all of the pharaohs from beginning to end in Egypt dating back 30,000 years. The reason that mainstream egyptologists won't tell you this is because it directly contradicts the time table of the Koran which states that that the world was created by the Muslim god 6,000 years ago.

What this means is that the disputed age of the Sphinx and the entire pyramid complex is at least 12,500 years old, or perhaps 25,000 years old. The positioning of the pyramid complex appears to be a means of revealing its date of construction. In the 26,000 year cycle of procession the complex lines up with Orion and Leo at 12,5000 BC and about 25,000 BC. Which ever it is, it's much older than what everyone claims.

Also, this complex was built by ET humans, and not reptilians. It was done for social engineering purposes just like "All" of the other megolithic structures both on land and below see level. By creating massive structures out of stone the ETs behind the program where able to create the many world religions that evolved into what we have today. A brief discussion of the omission that all of humanities religions were given to them by ETs was published on Bob Lazars website which he took down several years ago. In it he discussed being allowed into a briefing room where he was ordered to read a folder of documents regarding human genetic and social development that was being manipulated by ETs. This is what I myself have been told and shown personally in my contact experiences. I've also personally seen the creation of spin off religions created to carry out the ET agenda.

Now if you know anything about the pyramids you will know that there are no inscriptions inside of them. This is because all the inscriptions where on the outside capstones. And these capstones where stripped by the Egyptians to be used in the original construction of downtown Cairo. Well not all, if you look at the very top of the pyramids, the very top cap stones are still present along with the below ground stone blocks at the base.

The pyramid complex in Egypt is part of the same ET social engineering program that brought us Puma Punku, the stone churches in India and Ethiopia, and on and on. The reason why the inside of the great pyramid was acoustically tuned is because it was done so to enhance the sound of chanting and music which helps to induce trance like states. The same phenomena can be observed at Stonehenge.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have been genetically and socially manipulated by our cosmic ancestors. We are a project in the works and we are beginning to awaken and realize who we are. Look around you and stop listening to others. The answers to your questions are blatantly in front of your faces.

The big question that I still have is why do we have pyramids on Mars and the moon?

[bluestflame]

had a thought the other day about the system of pyramids on earth and other worlds being linked to some form of energetic harness or grid system designed to syphon off earths energy and keep her stuck in 3d , to keep her in a relative state of unawareness , to prevent her from transcending physical form

basically keeping her asleep so they can syphon her consciousness for thier own attempts at escaping this dimension

stealing consciousness has been a rather effective way of keeping awakening souls from achieving full consciousness in this place for longer than i am aware of , just that now it's happening on such a large scale to so many people i get the sense it's the culmination of a long drawn out process that is far older than many of us realize

and it's happening(awakening ) from the inside out, on our behalf, cos the part of us that IS awake has asked it

healing the fragmentation , breaking fixations hold

yes i believe the pyramid system is part of an energetic matrix designed to keep us limited consciousness

[modwiz]

Real purpose? Really nice postcards. :thumb:

[observer]

Bumping Comment #164 :bump:


To all those posting comments:

The resonance tuning of 440 Hz in the kings chamber of the Great Pyramid was from the work of Christopher Dunn in his book "The Giza Power Plant".

Surely there was some reason for this particular resonance, however, much earlier in this thread, I stipulated to the work of Dr. Joseph Farrell with regard to the actual purpose of this particular structure, thereby rendering the thesis in the opening post of this thread a moot issue.

Dr. Farrell's work builds on the work of Christopher Dunn, and takes the function of the Great Pyramid far beyond a simple power plant concept.

In his trilogy, The Giza Death Star compilation, Farrell submits the overwhelming evidence for the use of this structure in great antiquity. It is Dr. Farrell's conclusion this structure was part of a weapon system which was used to create the asteroid belt out of what was formally a planet.

Dr. Farrell goes on, in his book "Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Men" to document the evidence for a global megalithic civilization in great antiquity. It is his hypothesis this megalithic civilization was the result of surviving members of a great cosmic war.

One must research all the links I've given earlier in this thread regarding Dr. Farrell's work.


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[observer]

From recent studies, the original purpose if the pyramids - all of them, built on Earth and on other planets of the Solar System - was the stabilization of the magnetic fields of the planets, after the explosion of the planet, that is now the Asteroid Belt.

Thank you MariaDine for your input.

Without a link, it is impossible to evaluate your claim. It could be quite possible that many of those pyramid structures to which you are referring were built later in antiquity for just the purpose you are proposing.

Based on Dr. Farrell's work (which I have stipulated the topic of this thread to), the one specific pyramid in question in this thread, The Great Pyramid of Giza, was built as an hyperdimensional weapon and was used to actually destroy that planet, which was suggested by Tomas Van Flandern's, 'Exploded Planet Theory' (http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/eph/eph2000.asp)

It has also been suggested by several researchers that the hyperdimensional high-technology component that was the foundation of this weapons system was removed in antiquity as well.

I would suggest, as would others, the Ark of the Covenant was just that component. That the legends of an 'alleged' Hebrew Nation having been given this Ark by God is a myth. The evidence will show, Tuthmosis IV raided the Great Pyramid at Giza and absconded with this weapon component during his eviction from Egypt at the end of the reign of the 'Hyksos Dynasty' (as one can conclude from the work of Ellis). The 'Gift from God' story was later created as a ruse to justify the theft of the land of Canaan.

See the work of Ralph Ellis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ris3YCcmYk

Ralph Ellis website: http://www.edfu-books.com/

[Haujeancontactee]

Hey Blueflame,
the possibility of these pyramids being placed on Earth, the Moon, and Mars, for the purpose of suppressing human consciousness is possible to me at least from my limited knowledge base. If it were true it doesn't seem to have an effect on animals. And now that I've mentioned that I plan on doing a post later in the week which points out some peculiar things about animal psychic ability which isn't present in human when it should be. I do know that the suppression of our consciousness is taking place at the level of the soul with a the potential of a genetic component being present. I can't rule the latter out because I simply don't know at the present time. From what I've experienced in my own life I know that at least one major purpose for these structures here on Earth was to set up various world religions. If they are setting up world religions then we are dealing with controlled spirituality. And that directly ties in to the suppression of our consciousness. We also know that the moon and Mars are the next two closest celestial bodies in relation to the Earth. If the position of these monuments has any relation to Earth energies we would see possible patterns in their positioning, which we seem to have discovered already. We just don't know yet.

Another theory is that these monuments are being used to balance magnetic fields or something of this nature for a beneficial purpose, such as for preventing geographical pole shifts. Our wonderful academic community that enjoys covering up as much as they enjoy reporting new discoveries has told us that Earth has experienced 1 geographical pole shift in the past. Some of these pyramid structures could be a balancing force that reduces the chance of another geographical pole shift from happening. The motivation is there on behalf of the ETs to build something like that exists because we play a key in their long term survival.

If you really want to know a verifiable way that we are being drugged to induce a lesser degree of consciousness, do a search for that recent Harvard study that was published about sodium fluoride. For decades we have been drugged by a group of international banking families under the lie that it will reduce our chance of oral cavities by 10%. The Harvard study concluded that sodium fluoride in our water supply at the rate of 1.5 parts per million (ppm) has reduced people's IQ's by up to 20 points. It also increases the incidence of bone cancer in men by 700% and the incidence of other cancers in woman by 300%. Yet the official story is that it prevents cavities. And the Harvard study isn't the only one, there are others. In the Nazi concentration camps sodium fluoride was given to the prisoners at 3 ppm, and at this level you have something close to a chemical lobotomy taking place. When I compare that, the BT toxin in GMO corn, soybean, cotton seed, etc, with the toxic threat of aspartame. And then I combine it with the blatant elementary school level propaganda and subliminal messages on TV designed to get you to consume and conform, a consciousness squelching pyramid matrix threat is no longer a concern.

[Cartomancer]

Slightly off topic: Does anyone out there have the real documented source that says the Great Pyramid is oriented to within a few arc seconds of true north? I keep seeing this fact presented in many lectures, books, and tv shows but none of them can supply the material that shows how that was determined. Anyone?

[observer]

Slightly off topic: Does anyone out there have the real documented source that says the Great Pyramid is oriented to within a few arc seconds of true north? I keep seeing this fact presented in many lectures, books, and tv shows but none of them can supply the material that shows how that was determined. Anyone?

Cartomancer,

This is all from memory because I no longer have access to the books I reference to look it up and verify.

First, understand that it is to polar axis north to which the referenced alignments are measured.

I believe it was back in the seventies or early eighties, there was a book by, Peter Tompkins - SECRETS OF THE GREAT PYRAMID. It is my recollection that facts relating to the polar alignment can be found in that source.

Additionally, Christopher Dunn in his book, "The Giza Power Plant", is a well documented work describing accuracies - to modern machining tolerances - in great detail. You might find references to polar alignments in there. As I said, I no longer have access to either of these books to confirm this speculation.

You might keep in mind, the Giza Plateau has been surveyed and resurveyed using modern survey equipment going back into the eighteen hundreds. I really don't think there is any doubt regarding this 'common knowledge' alignment.

Additionally, I can't tell you how to do it, but you might try to check the alignments on google earth. I'm certain there is a way.

Thank you for commenting.... observer

[Poly Hedra]

In the interview David Icke did with the lady who spoke about ritual abuse and satanism among the elite that she experienced, she said that she saw Sachariah Stitchen at these meetings. She believed that he was a dis-info plant.

[Cartomancer]

Slightly off topic: Does anyone out there have the real documented source that says the Great Pyramid is oriented to within a few arc seconds of true north? I keep seeing this fact presented in many lectures, books, and tv shows but none of them can supply the material that shows how that was determined. Anyone?

Cartomancer,

This is all from memory because I no longer have access to the books I reference to look it up and verify.

First, understand that it is to polar axis north to which the referenced alignments are measured.

I believe it was back in the seventies or early eighties, there was a book by, Peter Tompkins - SECRETS OF THE GREAT PYRAMID. It is my recollection that facts relating to the polar alignment can be found in that source.

Additionally, Christopher Dunn in his book, "The Giza Power Plant", is a well documented work describing accuracies - to modern machining tolerances - in great detail. You might find references to polar alignments in there. As I said, I no longer have access to either of these books to confirm this speculation.

You might keep in mind, the Giza Plateau has been surveyed and resurveyed using modern survey equipment going back into the eighteen hundreds. I really don't think there is any doubt regarding this 'common knowledge' alignment.

Additionally, I can't tell you how to do it, but you might try to check the alignments on google earth. I'm certain there is a way.

Thank you for commenting.... observer

Thanks. I have seen all those sources. I just wonder why no one has measured it with modern equipment. I have checked all the most popular dates of construction of the Great Pyramid on my astronomy software. Especially using the most popular dates which indicate the star Thuban as the pole star at that time. If you put the sky in motion sped up you can see that Thuban is never in the exact center. It oscillates around the true center slightly. The diameter of this oscillation seems to be nearly a whole degree. This seems to be true of every pole star of each era.

One would guess that the pole star sightings for the core of the pyramid as it stands today were taken much earlier in its original construction than those used to align the now removed casement stones. I'm just fishing for further rationale for some thoughts I had that the pyramid was actually aligned about .55 east of true north. Several of the other monuments on the Giza plateau align at this angle. The Sphinx Temple, Lost Pyramid of Djedfre and Heliopolis all align at this angle. Google earth is hard to use to measure these small differences at the scale of the pyramid. Both the .55 and 0 deg angles seem to match and only represent about 7 (about 2.2m)offset feet over the length of the pyramid. The casement was said to be up to 18m thick.

Using the NW facet of the Great Pyramid a line extended all the way to the ruins of Baalbek matches a facet of the Hexagonal structure there. This spatial relationship comes to with in 4 miles of representing the block of latitude and longitude that separates those two sites and also represents the hypotenuse of that spatial relationship. Using the SW facet this same .55 east of TN leads right to the Grand Mosque in Mecca (135.55deg TN).

I think it is interesting that no one actually knows (including me) what the actual orientation of the structures are or were yet we are always told the same thing about it being oriented exactly to TN. I'm sure someone out there will have that reference and how that determination was made. Most transits before the nineties used the pole star to orient north. Now its very accurate GPS.

[observer]

In light of some new evidence supporting the Abstract presented in the OP (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3590-What-Was-the-Real-Purpose-of-the-Great-Pyramid-of-Giza---&p=31847&viewfull=1#post31847)of this thread, I'm resurrecting the original intention of showing how the Great Pyramid at Giza was used to suppress the Mass Consciousness of Humanity.

I will first ask those members - with a real interest in this subject - to view a very long (3 hour +) video. This is the revised and updated work of Carmen Boulter's earlier referenced research (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3590-What-Was-the-Real-Purpose-of-the-Great-Pyramid-of-Giza---&p=46283&viewfull=1#post46283), and presented as "The Pyramid Code". It is foundational to understanding how the hidden technologies, that are now obviously being concealed by mainstream Egyptology, was the driving force behind creating a planetary grid that, for eons of time, has confined the Mass Consciousness of Humanity - all within the context of the theme of this thread.

Here's the Boulter Video. It can be viewed in segments if one doesn't have the time to watch it all in one sitting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHY6Qkgf_qs

With the thorough understanding that there is much more to the Egyptology Story that is being concealed from the Public Record, here's a recent video which validates everything that was suggested in the OP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTJFlYaZudI&feature=youtu.be

Take Note:
It is not imperative to the understanding of this comment to watch the entire Boulter Video. If one already accepts the concept that ancient technologies are being hidden from public view, one can forgo the long documentary. It is, however, a very informative piece of work.

Thank you for taking the time to completely review this material prior to making any comments....

[Shadowself]

My personal theory here: Post number 32

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60111-Advanced-Breakaway-Civilizations-ETs-EDs-SOL-System-Wars-awakening-from-our-slavery&p=907598&viewfull=1#post907598

Drag on time ~ GPS ~ time dilation

[observer]

My personal theory here: Post number 32

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60111-Advanced-Breakaway-Civilizations-ETs-EDs-SOL-System-Wars-awakening-from-our-slavery&p=907598&viewfull=1#post907598

Drag on time ~ GPS ~ time dilation

Thanks Shadowself for your input.

After reviewing all of the videos you have posted at http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post907598, comment #32, I don't see how time dilation has anything to do with the topic of this thread. Although time dilation may have been another purpose of the system of pyramid structures located around the globe, and it may have been part of the use of this system as a weapon, it has no special relevance in the creation of a Matrix of Control, I don't particularly see time dilation as the stand-alone purpose of the global system of pyramid structures.

One must also consider, everything Steven Hawking promotes as a foundational part of the mirrors of deception is crap served on a platter. Relativity is completely out the door.... It's garbage.

Please reviews ALL the information offered in this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=904085&viewfull=1#post904085), and then tell me that Steven Hawking or even Einstein should be paid any member's attention.

Your interest in Time Dilation would be better served in the "Should Humanity Be Con-CERN-ed Thread, where manipulation of time is a real objective of those Elite behind the operation of the CERN Project.

But, thank you for your interest....

[TargeT]

I don't see how time dilation has anything to do with the topic of this thread..

Time dilation was just a small part, his main point was that perhaps the pyramids are built as a rudder to drag through time (adding mass to certain points along the globe (lay lines)). I would further that by saying maybe he thought that they were built to try and encourage a specific timeline by whomever, or in some way used to control timeline outcomes.


interesting theory anyway.

[observer]

I don't see how time dilation has anything to do with the topic of this thread..

Time dilation was just a small part, his main point was that perhaps the pyramids are built as a rudder to drag through time (adding mass to certain points along the globe (lay lines)). I would further that by saying maybe he thought that they were built to try and encourage a specific timeline by whomever, or in some way used to control timeline outcomes.


interesting theory anyway.

Yes, TargeT, I agree, it's an interesting theory concerning the manipulation of time, and perhaps with significant implications regarding the Weapons System Model as proposed by Farrell, but I see no connection to the Control of the Mass Consciousness of Humanity and Time Dilation.

Perhaps jumping back-and-forth in time is a device used by hyperdimensional entities as a tool to control the Mass Consciousness, but I would suggest this technical ability is something already available to an advanced civilization bent on Controlling the Mass Consciousness of Humanity. There would be no logical need for such an advanced civilization to manipulate time using physical structures placed around the planet.

If, on the other hand, these systems of pyramid structures were placed around the planet in great antiquity as a part of a technologically advanced weapons system, the manipulation of time factor would serve a purpose.

I simply don't see how that model would serve a continuing purpose in the Control of the Mass Consciousness, as is most obviously the designed purpose of this matrix intensifying system of pyramid structures. These structures are here to Control Humanity.

Perhaps I'm missing some point that hasn't been clearly stated....

[Wind]

I for one would suggest the book A Search in Secret Egypt (http://www.amazon.com/Search-Secret-Egypt-Paul-Brunton/dp/0943914981), by Paul Brunton. The great pyramid was built in the time of Atlantis and it was used as a place of initiation. It is said that Jesus too was initiated there.

Edgar Cayce's readings (http://www.crystalinks.com/caycepyramid.html) about the pyramid:


Q) What was the date of the actual beginning and ending of the construction of the Great Pyramid?

(A) Was one hundred years in construction. Begun and completed in the period of Araaraart's time, with Hermes and Ra.

8. (Q) What was the date B.C. of that period?
(A) 10,490 to 10,390 before the Prince entered into Egypt.

(Q) What definite details are indicated as to what will happen after we enter the period of the King's Chamber?

(A) When the bridegroom is at hand, all do rejoice. When we enter that understanding of being in the King's presence, with that of the mental seeking, the joy, the buoyancy, the new understanding, the new life, through the period.

10. (Q) What is the significance of the empty sarcophagus?
(A) That there will be no more death. Don't misunderstand or misinterpret! but the INTERPRETATION of death will be made plain.

In those periods when the first change had come in the position of the land, there had been an egress of peoples - or THINGS, as would be called today - from the Atlantean land, when the Nile (of Nole, then) emptied into what is now the Atlantic Ocean, on the Congo end of the country. What is now as the Sahara was a fertile land, a city that was builded in the edge of the land, a city of those that worshipped the sun - for the use of its rays were used for supplying from the elements that which is required in the present to be grown through a season; or the abilities to use both those of introgression and retrogression - and mostly retrograded, as we are in the present.

The beginnings of these mounds were as an interpretation of that which was crustating in the land. (See, most of the people had tails then!) In those beginnings these were left. When there was the entrance of Arart and Araaraart, they begin to build upon those mounds which were discovered through research. With the storehouse, or record house (where the records are still to be uncovered), there is a chamber or passage from the right forepaw to this entrance of the record chamber, or record tomb. This may not be entered without an understanding, for those that were left as guards may NOT be passed until after a period of their regeneration in the Mount, or the fifth root race begins. In the building of the pyramid, and that which is now called the Mystery of Mysteries [the Sphinx], this was intended to be a MEMORIAL - as would be termed today - to that counsellor who ruled or governed, or who acted in the capacity of the director in the MATERIAL things in the land.

Egypt was once a great place of spirituality, but as it always seems to happen with time, most things seem to erode and become corrupt and the original meanings of things are long lost and only nearly forgotten memories (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Kou9TGdi8) of the past remains.

http://www.mysteriouspeople.com/Egyptian_Mystery.htm

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_unx41u22bXM/THrmKLmom2I/AAAAAAAAATI/_uG1eF-WeK0/s1600/Pyramids.jpg

Also...

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[observer]

See Wind's comment #193 (above) for the content of his comment.

Thank you Wind,

The reoccurring mantra from telepathic communication, since the Dawn of Man, has been essentially, "just go back to sleep, everything is going to be O.K. at the New Dawn.... just over the horizon".

Perhaps you missed the argument I offered in the OP of this Thread where I clearly stated the case for:


Quoting observer from comment #1 -

"For me, it was a great revelation when, through the work of Dr. Leo Horowitz, I discovered the healing vibrations of the Solfeggio Music Scale. (see link at: http://www.miraclesandinspiration.co...equencies.html)

I learned this healing vibrational scale was in use until the great classical masters such as, Mozart, and Bach were instrumental in abandoning this Solfeggio Scale for the more modern tuning of 440Hz Concert A.

I was already aware of the connection of these great “masters” with (what David Icke refers to as) the “Babylonian Brotherhood”. I immediately realized there was a connection to the conspiracy to abandon the healing vibration of 417Hz (Solfeggio A) in favor of the 440Hz as an affront to Humanity. This conversion to 440Hz Concert A is really an entirely modern phenomenon – just in the past one hundred plus years. 417Hz has been the frequency used for the musical note A since antiquity. The abandon of the Solfeggio Scale for the more modern concert scales has had a dynamic effect on the healing vibrations of the music we listen to as a society. The conversion has been all about controlling the masses.

The effect of vibrations on what the Mass of Humanity perceives as real has everything to do with controlling the Mass of Humanity through the control of the frequencies of reality.

All material manifestation here in this particular third density is a complex combination of electromagnetic frequencies. The thousands of miles of DNA in our bodies are nothing more than frequency receptors – antennae. Humanities perception of reality is predicated by our body’s ability to receive frequencies and interpret those frequencies in our brains into what we perceive as material structure.

So why would the “gods” that built the Cheops Pyramid build into the structure the math for 440Hz when that frequency wasn’t even used as a musical note of antiquity? (Great Pyramid [Cheops] base length of 440 cubits, and the acoustical sound frequency of 440Hz resident in the Kings Chamber [per: Christopher Dunn "The Giza Power Plant"]) I think the fact that 440Hz reoccurs as a theme in the pyramid structure, the modern conversion to 440Hz Concert A, and the symbology used by the elite secret societies all have something to do with each other. There is a reason the Great Pyramid appears on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.

The “gods” of antiquity were into controlling the Masses. The Kings, and subsequently, the governments of the world are also into controlling the Masses. Just as the Pyramids were “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency, so too is today’s music “tuned” to a disharmonious frequency as a mechanism to control the Masses.

Ergo, the real secret of the pyramids….

After eons of time trapped within the Prison of Control, I personally think the time has come for The Mass of Humanity to begin looking at the evidential trail, and start figuring-out a way out of this matrix.

Just my opinion....

[Shadowself]

Apparently I've been excused from the content of this thread. When I saw it I read the title which states:

"What Was the Real Purpose of the Great Pyramid of Giza?”

I provided my two cents and theory. Then I'm asked to join another thread with this information. So I will provide some information here then quietly leave never to return. Mind you I've studied Ancient Egyptian for a VERY long time. I mean a very long time.

As for Hawking and Einstein: I cannot disregard their research completely and as for Hawking I don't completely agree with lot's he says. One thing in particular is the fact that he does not believe in life after death. I do.

As for Einstein and GR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkAPv5s92z0

Well apparently he was found to be correct.

The many faces of spin: http://einstein.stanford.edu/SPACETIME/spacetime4.html

To blindly ignore aspects of science is in my mind a great loss.

So what do the Ancient Egyptian say:

Interpreting the spell in the Coffin Texts:

The peripheral surface of a black hole is an Event Horizon.

If you fall into the black hole you will get crushed.

Egyptian: Second death.

If approached from the inner horizon or the axis of the black hole or the north
pole, the gravitational repulsion of the central singularity slows the entity
down, turning it around, and accelerating it back out through the inner horizon of a
white hole. Put simply, the space axis and time axis exchange places when one crosses
the outer event horizon, and the future becomes an unavoidable place in
time or the crushing singularity. Crossing the inner event horizon, time and space resume their normal axes, making the singularity an avoidable place in space, while allowing access to the past singularity of the white hole. Ultimately, one goes through four horizons


Egyptians referred to as the opening of mouths four times. The Opening of the
Mouth ceremony parallels the movement of the Deceased through four horizons.


According to scientific speculations, inside a spinning black hole, the act
of looking backward would allow one to see a white hole or the past singularity.
Since a white hole is a black hole running backward in time, the Negative
Confession of the Book of the Dead describes deities:

"Who come forth backwards".

"He whose Face is behind him who came forth from his hole".

The inner horizon, radiation is blueshifted as it accumulates.

Field of Turquoise and the Blue One, Lake of Turquoise,
traveling with turquoise, Lord of Turquoise, and open door of the blue sky.

Indicates blueshift or the high frequency light associated with
approaching radiation.

In contrast, radiation moving away from the observer appears redshifted.

The Dead King observes:

he who departs is red and smeared

"N" has gone up in the red hour.
(N State described in video below starting at 1:16)



According to Holographic principal: All Information about the black hole is stored on the horizon....The peripheral!

Particles living on the horizon boundary describe objects in the interior.



If what I have just proposed is correct then this ancient culture must certainly KNOW the landscape of space and time with great detail to know the redshift and blueshift attributes.

Tests of general relativity:


General relativity has also been confirmed many times, the classic experiments being the perihelion precession of Mercury's orbit, the deflection of light by the Sun, and the gravitational redshift of light. Other tests confirmed the equivalence principle and frame dragging.

Dead Kings escapes the black hole Netherworld associated with
uraei shedding "light by means of their radiance (which cometh) from their mouths"

or uraei pouring fire from their mouths:

The mouths of a wormhole are analogous to the holes at either end of the tube in a 2D plane...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole

a quantum parallel exists between the transformed Deceased and Hawking radiance in the bulk, proposing the existence of large extra dimensions in small black holes.

The Dead King is a horizon dweller: has a
seat in the horizon, and takes possession of the horizon

so that those who are in the horizon may live for this spirit

"My power is in the horizon"

~The Ancient Egyptian Coffin Texts - R.O. Faulkner ~


Peripheral Sensor/Surface

Peripheral: Of, relating to, or situated on the edge or periphery of something.

Redefining the Horizon:

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As for Frequency in the kings chamber...well I'm just a nobody right? By the way I'm a woman so perhaps that will make it easier to disregard what I say?

So allow me to let somebody else say it:

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Do I need to remind you F# is the tone existing in the Kings Chamber in the Great Pyramid?


"In the Great Cheops Pyramid in the King's Chamber an F-sharp chord is resident, sometimes below the range of human hearing. Former NASA consultant Tom Danley feels the sound may be caused by wind blowing cross the ends of the air shafts and causing a pop-bottle effect. These vibrations, some ranging as low a 9 hertz down to 0.5 hertz, are enhanced by the dimensions of the Pyramid, as well as the King's Chamber and the sarcophagus case inside. According to Danley, even the type of stone was selected to enhance these vibrations."

In a 1997 video, JJ Hurtak said "this chord (F-sharp) is the harmonic of planet Earth to which native Americans still tune their instruments, and is in perfect harmony with the human body."



That 11 in the harmonic series is F#

http://i42.tinypic.com/1zzg9z6.jpg

Or that a neutron star rang out at F#

http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0605/0605117.pdf

How would time dilation control consciousness? I suppose you can dismiss that now.


Just chalk it up to nominated trivia for today....and use thereof for the purpose of Destiny and how I will no further expound on this thread. Sorry to have rocked the boat:

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Thank you Shadowself, for your most recent input (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3590-What-Was-the-Real-Purpose-of-the-Great-Pyramid-of-Giza---&p=907946&viewfull=1#post907946).

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[Just for the record, in comment #188 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3590-What-Was-the-Real-Purpose-of-the-Great-Pyramid-of-Giza---&p=907593&viewfull=1#post907593) I did ask, "Thank you for taking the time to completely review this material prior to making any comments.... ". I don't know you, Shadowself, so I answered your comment in as few words as possible. I'm sorry if my words offended you.]

First, allow me to suggest that you were not being "dismissed" with what I said in comment #190 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3590-What-Was-the-Real-Purpose-of-the-Great-Pyramid-of-Giza---&p=907629&viewfull=1#post907629). You were directed to that CERN Thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed) to give you an insight into what was said regarding Hawking, and Einstein in comment #190. If you take the time and follow the links in the CERN Thread, you will have a much clearer understanding of how Theoretical Physics has been cleverly hijacked ever since the Relativity Spoof first appeared. I reiterate, "Relativity is garbage". [German Theoretical Physicists, and the Nazis knew this way back in the 1920s.] - please take the time to review the evidence offered in the CERN Thread.

With regard to what I've been reporting in this thread concerning 440hz and modern Concert A tuning, the most common modern tuning standard uses 440 Hz for A above middle C as a reference note, with other notes being set relative to it. The fact that modern Concert F# resonates within the King's Chamber, is relative to the fact modern Concert F# is an harmonic resonant to 440 Concert A.

Decades ago, I purchased the Paul Horn album, "Inside The Great Pyramid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkKCZeFWag)". The entire structure is tuned to 440Hz Concert A. There is no logical explanation as to why a structure (most likely) tens of thousands years old is tuned to a modern standard. The point of this thread is to show how that phenomenon has been a continuous agenda, throughout the history of Humanity.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to elaborate.