More Info on Obama's Birth Certificate -definitely a fraud

[Dawn]

I know that we have all heard quite a lot about Obama's Birth. Is he even a US citizen? And so on and so on. Below is some amazing information that contains the research links so you can look at it in depth. If Obama was never a legal president then all laws passed after he came into office are null and void. That would solve a lot of problems immediately. Decide for yourself, this certainly convinced me.

This is proof of the the greatest fraud ever perpetrated against Americans, since the establishment of the misnamed Federal Reserve Bank in the early 1900's. He's that good that he can win a Nobel Peace Prize before earning it. The fooled voted for a fraud. It's amazing what can happen, when you want to believe a lie.




“Very Interesting Bit Of Detective Work”

... 1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can
the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when
the term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's
birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his
father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also
shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father
was born in " Kenya, East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything
of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until
1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his
father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country
that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it
was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed
place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".
This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were
called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity
Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity
& Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals
merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth
certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it
until 1978?

Resources:



http://www.kapiolani...us/default.aspx



POST-COLONIAL HISTORY (from Wikipedia):

http://en.wikipedia....istory_of_Kenya


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya


And Fox, CNN and the rest of the state run media continue to ignore this

.....See More— in Nairobi, Kenya.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Dawn, interesting info :)

That thing they've released as the "Obama certificate" was fake and extremely poor Photoshop job. There was thread about it on Avalon. So I don't know what was that document, but I am very convinced that it was not a genuine birth certificate.

The info you've just posted comes as a confirmation to that.

For the politicians that look for every piece of dirt to bury their "opponents", not to look at this "fake certificate issue" is really telling...

[Kimberley]

Sorry I Do Not concur with your report Dawn... Just in 20 minutes of research I have found the below... and there is a lot more information available that refutes this . I am a reporter/researcher... and never believe only one source of information.. I remind us all to also do your own research before posting one source....
Much love to us all!!! :luv:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Africa_Protectorate

Main article: History of Kenya

East Africa Protectorate (also known as British East Africa) was an area of East Africa occupying roughly the same terrain as present-day Kenya (approximately 246,800 mi² / 639,209 km²) from the Indian Ocean inland to Uganda and the Great Rift Valley. It was controlled by Britain in the late 19th century; it grew out of British commercial interests in the area in the 1880s and remained a protectorate until 1920 when it became the colony of Kenya.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Colony

The Colony and Protectorate of Kenya was part of the British Empire in Africa. It was established when the former East Africa Protectorate was transformed into a British crown colony in 1920. Technically, the "Colony of Kenya" referred to the interior lands, while a ten-mile coastal strip (ostensibly on lease from the Sultan of Zanzibar) was the "Protectorate of Kenya" but the two were controlled as a single administrative unit. Mombasa, the largest city in 1921, had a population of 32,000 at that time.

Indians in Kenya objected to the reservation of the Highlands for Europeans and bitterness grew between the Indians and the Europeans. The population in 1921 was estimated at 2,376,000, of whom 9651 were Europeans, 22,822 Indians, and 10,102 Arabs.

The colony came to an end in 1963 when independence was agreed with the British. After independence the former colony became known as Kenya.

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"Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/educating-the-confused-kapiolani-maternity-gynecological-hospital/

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/yes-there-was-a-kapiolani-maternity-gynecological-hospital-in-1961/

[Kimberley]

Hi Dawn, interesting info :)

That thing they've released as the "Obama certificate" was fake and extremely poor Photoshop job. There was thread about it on Avalon. So I don't know what was that document, but I am very convinced that it was not a genuine birth certificate.

The info you've just posted comes as a confirmation to that.

For the politicians that look for every piece of dirt to bury their "opponents", not to look at this "fake certificate issue" is really telling...

Please please please as a moderator never never never believe what you read from one lone source please do more research and confirm or refute for yourself...

Thank you
Much love :luv:

[Davidallany]

I am sorry but proving Obama's illegitimacy is a lost cause. The rulers want him there and it's not a democracy. Since they have the higher ground and are immoral then there is no point in kicking and screaming at the air, the game is rigged.

[Connecting with Sauce]

I know this is a topic Don Nicoloff and Ken have talked about numerous times on educate-yourself.org radio shows which are available on EY. Don did A LOT of research into this topic...

http://directlightproductions.com/

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/index.shtml scroll down for the radio archives...

[Kimberley]

I am sorry but proving Obama's illegitimacy is a lost cause. The rulers want him there and it's not a democracy. Since they have the higher ground and are immoral then there is no point in kicking and screaming at the air, the game is rigged.

Dear David and all... History of the 2008 election is that "those that no longer have power" wanted Hilary Clinton to be the president (she is one of them, a dark one)... Obama is of the light, whether he consciously knows that or not is not clear.. however the collective majority recognized the love and light of Obama and "those that no longer have power" could not over rule that power of the collective so they had no choice but to go with that wave... "those that no longer have power" could not manipulate or rig the overwhelming majority that consciously or unconsciously knew/recognized in the core of their heart that Obama is of the light... So Obama is now President of the USA.... again however he has NO power..no president since WWII has had much power... Dwight Eisenhower spoke to it ... JFK was assassinated because of his knowing.. and those that followed just agreed to play the game either because they were happy to play along or they feared for their life and followed along.... Geez When Obama was elected he was sat down and shown the JFK assassination tapes and told see this??? If you speak out the same thing will happen to you and your lovely wife and daughters also.. what would you do ???

Come on my brothers and sisters listen to your own inner knowing and then find the facts and the proof to back it up!!!


I love us all dark & light .. Much love to us all!! :luv:

[Dawn]

I appreciate all the research done here in this thread. The remainder of the information in the post I placed has not been refuted. Anyone with to give it a try?


History of the 2008 election is that "those that no longer have power" wanted Hilary Clinton to be the president (she is one of them, a dark one)... Obama is of the light, whether he consciously knows that or not is not clear.. however the collective majority recognized the love and light of Obama and "those that no longer have power" could not over rule that power of the collective so they had no choice but to go with that wave...



As for the quote above from Kimberly... I highlighted it because it is not based in facts and has not verifiable reality. I have heard this from many of my acquaintances. I judge others by their fruits, and Obama has backed some really horrific things since coming into office. If Obama is 'of the light' then he has put his energy behind some very dark things indeed.


So Obama is now President of the USA.... again however he has NO power..no president since WWII has had much power...

Yes, you are correct, however legislation he signed into being was perhaps not signed by a legal president. It would be totally possible to impeach him based on his provable lies and disqualification for the job he has. I am a pragmatist and know this is not likely, however it is possible.

[Davidallany]

I am sorry but proving Obama's illegitimacy is a lost cause. The rulers want him there and it's not a democracy. Since they have the higher ground and are immoral then there is no point in kicking and screaming at the air, the game is rigged.

Dear David and all... History of the 2008 election is that "those that no longer have power" wanted Hilary Clinton to be the president (she is one of them, a dark one)... Obama is of the light, whether he consciously knows that or not is not clear.. however the collective majority recognized the love and light of Obama and "those that no longer have power" could not over rule that power of the collective so they had no choice but to go with that wave... "those that no longer have power" could not manipulate or rig the overwhelming majority that consciously or unconsciously knew/recognized in the core of their heart that Obama is of the light... So Obama is now President of the USA.... again however he has NO power..no president since WWII has had much power... Dwight Eisenhower spoke to it ... JFK was assassinated because of his knowing.. and those that followed just agreed to play the game either because they were happy to play along or they feared for their life and followed along.... Geez When Obama was elected he was sat down and shown the JFK assassination tapes and told see this??? If you speak out the same thing will happen to you and your lovely wife and daughters also.. what would you do ???

Come on my brothers and sisters listen to your own inner knowing and then find the facts and the proof to back it up!!!


I love us all dark & light .. Much love to us all!! :luv:

Hi Kim, although I am a Canadian Citizen and have never been to the States, I supported Obama from day one,when everyone around me said not happening even black friends. I donated money, carried his pin on my back pack when biking among cars for everyone to see, my name is among those who donated its visible online somewhere, most Canadians wanted Hillary to win, they even went to the States to donate and follow her around, those who could vote for her did as well.
Against all odds he won, maybe he is a Darth Vedar the promised one to bring balance back to the force.
I just don't get why people are trying so hard to fight a loosing battle and like they say on Dune those who control the spice, control the univers.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello Kimberly,

Good points about checking the information against multiple sources (we need a often reminder of that!). The released PDF with the alleged certificate, I've downloaded and deconstructed myself in Photoshop (as I am rather good at that). There is no doubt in my mind that was a fake document. Does that prove anything... well not in itself, it just shows that the government is lying to its people, and they don't even try very hard, but that's old news....

[Lettherebelight]

Interesting thread. I've always maintained that the mystery would be easily soved by evidence from Obama's mother.

Unfortunately, she is no longer around. There just doesn't seem to be enough proof of his origins.

I recently read some info about him actually being the love child of Malcolm X. Does anyone have that link?

It sounds preposterous, but I'm not discounting anything...truth can often be stranger


than fiction.http://neorepublica.com/media/blogs/republica/malcom_x_beard.jpg

[applejax]

Hello Kimberly,

Good points about checking the information against multiple sources (we need a often reminder of that!). The released PDF with the alleged certificate, I've downloaded and deconstructed myself in Photoshop (as I am rather good at that). There is no doubt in my mind that was a fake document. Does that prove anything... well not in itself, it just shows that the government is lying to its people, and they don't even try very hard, but that's old news....

Same here (good in using PS that is). When it was first released I took one good look at it and it just felt "off". It's like finding a fake $100 (which I have encountered in the past)...you can just tell.

Thanks for the topic Dawn :)

[jackovesk]

Interesting thread. I've always maintained that the mystery would be easily soved by evidence from Obama's mother.

Unfortunately, she is no longer around. There just doesn't seem to be enough proof of his origins.

I recently read some info about him actually being the love child of Malcolm X. Does anyone have that link?

It sounds preposterous, but I'm not discounting anything...truth can often be stranger


than fiction.http://neorepublica.com/media/blogs/republica/malcom_x_beard.jpg

Here you go Lettherebelight...

http://www.greatamericanjournal.com/images/obama_x1.gif

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35404--The-Terrible-Truth--about-Obama-s-Mother--Stanley-Ann-Dunham-..-&p=362916#post362916

[applejax]

whoa that gif is surreal... thanks for the link...got more time to read hahaha

[jackovesk]

Obama Doesn't Know His Own Birth Date!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=2wF_n-gn-Yo&NR=1

[RMorgan]

Obama Doesn't Know His Own Birth Date!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=2wF_n-gn-Yo&NR=1


Well, this video doesn´t prove anything.

Personally, I´ve confused my own age many times, on many occasions. I guess it´s perfectly normal for a man under such stress to make such confusions.

Anyway, I´m not defending Obama at all. I don´t even like him, but we have to be unbiased while analyzing such issues.

Nowadays, there are conspiracy theories for everything. Not all of them are right.

Cheers,

Raf.

[jackovesk]

Obama Doesn't Know His Own Birth Date!


Well, this video doesn´t prove anything.

Personally, I´ve confused my own age many times, on many occasions. I guess it´s perfectly normal for a man under such stress to make such confusions.

Anyway, I´m not defending Obama at all. I don´t even like him, but we have to be unbiased while analyzing such issues.

Nowadays, there are conspiracy theories for everything. Not all of them are right.

Cheers,

Raf.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

[Cjay]

I wonder if I still have those old Collier's Encyclopaedia, World Book Encyclopaedia and Encyclopaedia Britannica in boxes in storage. I suggest we not rely on the internet for our research in this case.

[jackovesk]

I wonder if I still have those old Collier's Encyclopaedia, World Book Encyclopaedia and Encyclopaedia Britannica in boxes in storage. I suggest we not rely on the internet for our research in this case.

Sure if you want your 'Truth' to come from TPW..?

Your own Discernment is the best way to find your own 'Truth' no matter where the source comes from...

Rgs,

Jack

[Unified Serenity]

Let's see, he can't provide a real birth certificate, confuses his birth date, has a fraudulent social security number as he never lived or worked in Conneticut, all his school records are sealed, he was a dual citizen of a couple of countries, his father is NOT an American, his mother was too young to convey citizenship to him, anyone could get a certificate of live birth, the words and names on the documents he has provided to prove his birth do not match up with what was used back then, he went to a country after he was 18 that American's could not travel to so he used a foreign passport thus negating any status as citizen he may have had, but I don't believe he ever did have, and all the promises he made to be change have not come to pass.

He is a patsy, he is no light bringer unless you count him in the house of Satan who is also called a light bringer. No, Obama is more of the same. To support him is to support the establishment. We will be given 2 more establishment people to vote for and unless and until we demand open, honest, verifiable voting nothing will change.

[Unified Serenity]

I love these ditties by Paul Shanklin for Rush Limbaugh:

The Great Pretender (hmmm, could apply to limbaugh, Beck, Hannity by title alone, but it also fits Obama and all the other jokes in Washington, well except for Ron Paul)

kYehBy2KlBs

Pretty funny really:

uV7I2pMzJ0U

[T Smith]

Obama is of the light, whether he consciously knows that or not is not clear.. however the collective majority recognized the love and light of Obama



Hi Kimberly,

No information I've come across convinces me to even the slightest degree that President Obama is operating from light and love. All evidence points to the contrary, actually. That's not to say I am not intrigued to understand how you come to your understanding, and if there are facts I may have overlooked, I would be very interested to change my perspective if warranted by specifics you might be willing to share.

I also have no emotional attachment to the birth certificate issue, but the facts do tend to support the OP. There are mounds of supporting research on this topic that suggests President Obama has very serious issues with his birth certificate and likely was not born in the United States.

Best Regards,
T Smith

[kcbc2010]

David: A lot of us feel like we are fighting for the soul of our country. We sincerely feel that Obama's a con artist and that he shouldn't be holding the highest political office in America.

If it wasn't for the Chicago political machine and its thug allies, he wouldn't be President. Most people have no respect for the "thug" politics he plays. I've been in "the game" (politics) for a long time. I've seen my fair share of ups and downs. This is more than the general "give and take" that goes normally goes on during a President's administration. People are angry and Obama's lighting fires he might not be able to put out if they get too out of control. That makes him and his allies dangerous to all of us, not just the politicos. Most people didn't vote for Obama the "radical", they voted for Obama "I'm going to unite Red/Blue American w/hope and change." As a Canadian, I'm not sure you appreciate how badly he's destroyed the Democratic Party in America. He's not interested in his Party. He's not interested in anything (including the country he leads!), but himself. Most Democrats don't want to go along with this guy which is why you see a lot of long-time Democratic Party leaders retiring and calling it quits. That's why we fight this guy. It's not because we want to - it's because we have to. It may be a "losing battle," but we have to try.

[jackovesk]

David: A lot of us feel like we are fighting for the soul of our country. We sincerely feel that Obama's a con artist and that he shouldn't be holding the highest political office in America.

If it wasn't for the Chicago political machine and its thug allies, he wouldn't be President. Most people have no respect for the "thug" politics he plays. I've been in "the game" (politics) for a long time. I've seen my fair share of ups and downs. This is more than the general "give and take" that goes normally goes on during a President's administration. People are angry and Obama's lighting fires he might not be able to put out if they get too out of control. That makes him and his allies dangerous to all of us, not just the politicos. Most people didn't vote for Obama the "radical", they voted for Obama "I'm going to unite Red/Blue American w/hope and change." As a Canadian, I'm not sure you appreciate how badly he's destroyed the Democratic Party in America. He's not interested in his Party. He's not interested in anything (including the country he leads!), but himself. Most Democrats don't want to go along with this guy which is why you see a lot of long-time Democratic Party leaders retiring and calling it quits. That's why we fight this guy. It's not because we want to - it's because we have to. It may be a "losing battle," but we have to try.


If it wasn't for the Chicago political machine and its thug allies, he wouldn't be President.

You 'Nailed It' right there kcbc2010..!

[Davidallany]

[QUOTE=Davidallany;371054]

Obama is of the light, whether he consciously knows that or not is not clear.. however the collective majority recognized the love and light of Obama



Hi Kimberly,

No information I've come across convinces me to even the slightest degree that President Obama is operating from light and love. All evidence points to the contrary, actually. That's not to say I am not intrigued to understand how you come to your understanding, and if there are facts I may have overlooked, I would be very interested to change my perspective if warranted by specifics you might be willing to share.

I also have no emotional attachment to the birth certificate issue, but the facts do tend to support the OP. There are mounds of supporting research on this topic that suggests President Obama has very serious issues with his birth certificate and likely was not born in the United States.

Best Regards,
T Smith

T Smith you have quoted me saying something that I have never did.

[T Smith]

Obama is of the light, whether he consciously knows that or not is not clear.. however the collective majority recognized the love and light of Obama



Hi Kimberly,

No information I've come across convinces me to even the slightest degree that President Obama is operating from light and love. All evidence points to the contrary, actually. That's not to say I am not intrigued to understand how you come to your understanding, and if there are facts I may have overlooked, I would be very interested to change my perspective if warranted by specifics you might be willing to share.

I also have no emotional attachment to the birth certificate issue, but the facts do tend to support the OP. There are mounds of supporting research on this topic that suggests President Obama has very serious issues with his birth certificate and likely was not born in the United States.

Warm Regards,
T Smith

T Smith you have quoted me saying something that I have never did.

My apologies. I am quoting Kimberly. The HTML codes picked up your quote in error. I will edit the orignial post know.

Warm Regards,
T Smith

[etm567]

This is bogus. Kenya was known as Kenya, was called Kenya, no matter what is official British name was. I think Kenya has been called Kenya for a very long time, whether it was a "country" or not.

I'm not an expert, but it seems to me birth certificates are issued nowadays based on papers they have on file and which they keep on file. I recently had to get a new one to renew my driver's license. The one I had from the hospital didn't count. The one my mother was given when I was born didn't count. I had to get the one they sent me, and they made it up new. It was no photocopy of some ancient thing they had somewhere, it was a new document. And maybe that is why they use current terminology.

[alienHunter]

If I could, I would thank you twice for that post. regarding Obama as one of the good guys...His every gesture corroborates that 'feeling'.

I think only history will be able to substantiate that truth. Unless, of course, Rush Limbaugh gets there first (that's a joke).

[Dawn]

I was listening to an audio post by Unified Serenity on Silent Sound Weapons. To my extreme surprise it states as a fact that these weapons have been used while Obama gives speeches to create strong emotions in his listeners. OMG! I'm re-posting this link here. It is a good listen... but the bit about how Obama has been using this starts just after minute 30 on the counter bar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JC6fMjEfw