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Unified Serenity
4th December 2011, 19:58
I like Dr. Murray despite his accepting Paul's teachings. He is still an excellent bible teacher and he does a great job on the Parable of the Fig tree.

I hope you enjoy this series, and we can talk about it here if you want.

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RedeZra
5th December 2011, 01:38
I like Dr. Murray despite his accepting Paul's teachings.


as you know Serenity that speaks to his advantage imho


but perhaps you picked up the Kenites aversion from him here

because he does mention them a couple of times almost at the end of his breath in connection with them being the tares or the evil figs



the Parable of the Fig tree


Israel is the Fig tree

which did not produce fruit when Christ came and so He cursed it

because the nation did not recognize the time of His visitation

but was busy in their wordly pursuits after killing the Prophets


it was not a secret how and when He would come

as it was written in the scrolls

even the exact timing and that He would enter Jerusalem on a donkey


they knew and they knew better than God

and so the Temple was leveled and Israel scattered


for 2000 years


today Israel is back and the fig tree is with leaves again

hopefully it will produce fruit this time

but the season is short

Unified Serenity
5th December 2011, 21:14
Dr. Murray is one of the most gifted bible teachers alive today. Maybe you should check out his teaching and see if you still adhere to your current mindset? I have studied with plenty of great teachers both Christian and non-Christian. I say don't knock something until you are actually aware of what it is, how it's shared, and if it lines up. We each will have to answer for ourselves, and I don't want it to be based on lack of truly seeking and just accepting what I am told.

RedeZra
5th December 2011, 21:21
Dr. Murray is one of the most gifted bible teachers alive today. Maybe you should check out his teaching and see if you still adhere to your current mindset?

i think his pretty decent

i don't agree with the Kenites part but he did a good job about the Fig tree


he didn't need all the minutes he got to get his points across so a bit over the top perhaps

but alll in all a pretty good chap with a decent head on his shoulders

Unified Serenity
6th December 2011, 04:24
Not many people can sit through this kind of teaching. It takes a willingness to go through all the passages, and I think Dr. Murray does a heck of a job connecting the dots which few would ever take the time to do or even notice the connections between cursing a little out of season fig tree and that spiritual message or even know about a good fig and bad fig in reality.

The teaching is not easily grasped, and those who are not meant to get it won't even try imho. I don't say that smugly, but just saying that when the student is ready the teacher will appear and not before.