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Mark
4th December 2011, 22:47
Energy.

Power.

We all have some of it, we all want more of it. How do we get it? How do we lose it? Where do we get it from? What do we do with it once we have it?

If any of you have read the Celestine Prophecies, have perused much of the New Age material out and about, the Net across, or, if you know much about the ancient and modern alchemical tradition, then you know that there are ways that we can receive energy from nature. Communing with the natural world, going for walks in the park or in the forest or desert, silently absorbing the energy that we receive from plant and animal life is one way of gaining energy.

We get energy from the food we eat. If we eat organic vegetables straight out of the ground, we receive a large quotient of the energy that these plants have stored during the photosynthesis process. Plants, fruits, vegetables, are basically just light and water in material form. We consume that light and then our body uses as much of it as it can in order to power itself. Vegetables contain more of this kind of energy than meat does. That is why it is believed, in many traditions, that being a vegetarian raises the vibrational frequency of your body, making you more amenable to spiritual pursuits and the elevation of mental states, while eating a meat diet lowers your vibrational frequency, grounding you, intensifying your presence in the here and now of this material world.

Don’t you feel much better after you’ve been outside, walking around in nature? Invigorated, somehow? As if you stuck your finger into a light socket?

It is possible to overdo it. Staying outside in the sun, for instance, all day long with no protection, and the energy we recieve from the sun’s rays can leave us lethargic and drained, because we’ve overcharged ourselves. A short nap often alleviates that, leaving us with enough energy to last us for a while.

Contemplation, concentration and meditation are other ways of raising energy. The movement of serpent power/kundalini/chi energy can be affected by yogic exercises called Pranayama, which is basically just a series of practices concerned with the movement of the breath. Inhaling, retention and exhaling according to different methods and accompanying visualization practices. Breathing is the key to meditation. According to the tradition, there is a receptor behind and a bit beneath the nose that processes prana, which is a form of etheric energy, and the only way you can bring prana into your body is through the nostrils. Deep, full breaths and the attempt to still the mind allows the body to process this energy type and store it for future purposes.

What do we use our energy for? To live. To interact with others, to do the things that we do. To go to work, to talk on the phone, to interact with our spouses, friends, family and children. To think, to write, to draw, to paint. To create music, to dance, to sing and to shout. To argue, to fight, to make love, to eat. Everything we do takes energy, so if we don’t have a conscious method of making sure we have enough energy, then we find ourselves running our bodies into the ground, because the food that we eat in this culture is generally not enough. We need other ways of gathering energy to us.

What is another way we get energy?

From each other. We are trained from childhood, in our families, to eat each other. To consume each other’s energy in parasitic relationships that we are generally unconscious of. I mean, sure, we know when we are in healthy relationships or when we are not, when we get to a certain stage of life, or a certain understanding about relationships. But that takes experience and knowledge to determine. When we are children, we don’t have that experience and knowledge available to us in most cases, since we are newly returned to the world and we don’t have access to past-life memories in that manner. So, we are trained in the methods of energy-siphoning, and we do it first in our families, and then with our friends, and then in the greater society in our daily interactions.

Read more here (http://rahkyt.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/energy-exchange-and-propogation-eat-to-live-or-dont-consume-your-kids/), or watch the videos ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9oFU3iDDSgA
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9oFU3iDDSgA

Ria
5th December 2011, 00:54
I am having a go, at growing my own veg.

Mark
5th December 2011, 02:32
Good for you, the food you grow for Self is great. Do you know anything about the russian girl, Anastasia (http://www.ringingcedars.com/)? Vladimir Megre, who claims to have found her (or she found him) up in Siberia. One of the things she teaches is that by mixing whatever seeds you grow with your own dna, putting them in your mouth or whatever, you make plants that are genetically suited to your body. I haven't tried it, but maybe you can and share the results with us!

Mark
5th December 2011, 02:59
Here is a video that talks about how to do it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le1reTXl-Nk
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le1reTXl-Nk

Ria
5th December 2011, 15:21
Do I, I read all the books in two weeks, felt bereft after wards. I still wont more books, nothing for some time. That is one person I wont to hang out with.
Anastasia that is.

Seikou-Kishi
6th December 2011, 14:30
I love your thread, Rakhyt; you have an oratory style that can only be admired.

I disagree though that energy absorption happens through the eating of food. I am sure that that is true, and I'm sure also that it's the most important part of eating food. However, such a system has to be part of the scarcity paradigm, because it assumes we rely on outside sources for energy and while that might be generally true at the moment, I don't think it's necessarily true; it is my belief that we each have within us an emotional core which is, in a way, the powerhouse of the human machine, since the expression of love as a fundamental part of life reinvigorates, revivifies and re-enervates. In my opinion, this resonates with your saying that we get energy from each other, and while in the scarcity model this would manifest itself as a dog-eat-dog vampirism for energy, whereby people become energised by attacking and draining another person, in the real model, I would say that what really happens is two hearts in resonance proliferate their own energy which, from the point of view of the incarnated world, comes from nowhere but which really is the importing of "God's" own energy into the world.

In Chasidism, it is believed that there are pathways between God and the world, and that by performing the right actions with the right intentions and by the grace of God, God can be drawn down into the world as the indwelling spirit of the world. I take this view in my own way to mean that the spirit of universal love, or God, can be brought into the world by love, and that actually love itself is the bringing in of God, such that the action and the result are the same thing.

Food definitely provides energy for us, but it is very much a mechanical sort of energy which allows the biological functioning of the body but little more. Of course, purer food sources might do that in a more efficient way and even have emotional and spiritual effects, but the mechanism of such an action is, I think, almost fully biological. The greater energy must be that energy which we create amongst ourselves; food helps maintain the mechanical functioning of the body, but love works miracles: it heals beyond hope; it pushes a person past the exhaustion of the body; it makes trifles of the most insurmountable obstacles.

I wholeheartedly agree that from the get-go we're lead to believe that we can only have something by taking it from others. What we have said here, that energy needn't be stolen to be gained, is an idea for which the greatest evidence is required of us by those who are trapped in their sickly paradigm, but which really is the more obvious of the two: when you go home and see your children and witness their purity and innocence, it must have the power to drive away the worst of bad feelings and purify your own energy. The purity of a child's energy and the purity of one's love for them isn't stolen from them, but it resonates and brings others into harmony with the higher energy.

We're supposed to believe that when the bad and the good mix, we're left with two lots of indifference; when the black and the white are mixed, we're left with two lots of grey. Essentially, the balancing of extremes leads to something insipid, indistinct and unfavourable; that balance is a compromise which pleases neither. In reality, the higher vibration isn't polluted by the lower vibration such that the high elevates the low and the low diminishes the high, but rather that the high, allowed to do its work, elevates the low until both of them are high. There is nothing greater than children to fight off the soul-decaying atmosphere that persists these days.

2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.


— Matthew 18:2-3

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.


— 1 Corinthians 13:13

Mark
6th December 2011, 15:59
Do I, I read all the books in two weeks, felt bereft after wards. I still wont more books, nothing for some time. That is one person I wont to hang out with.
Anastasia that is.

LOL I actually haven't finished reading all the books. I read up through the 5th. So, what is Anastasia doing now? I wonder why she never got more popular? Those books are amazing. If she is all that Vladimir says that she is, she and people like her are the future.


I love your thread, Rakhyt; you have an oratory style that can only be admired.

You are very kind to say so. I have worked very hard for a long time at perfecting my style. Thank you.


I disagree though that energy absorption happens through the eating of food. I am sure that that is true, and I'm sure also that it's the most important part of eating food. However, such a system has to be part of the scarcity paradigm, because it assumes we rely on outside sources for energy and while that might be generally true at the moment, I don't think it's necessarily true; it is my belief that we each have within us an emotional core which is, in a way, the powerhouse of the human machine, since the expression of love as a fundamental part of life reinvigorates, revivifies and re-enervates. In my opinion, this resonates with your saying that we get energy from each other, and while in the scarcity model this would manifest itself as a dog-eat-dog vampirism for energy, whereby people become energised by attacking and draining another person, in the real model, I would say that what really happens is two hearts in resonance proliferate their own energy which, from the point of view of the incarnated world, comes from nowhere but which really is the importing of "God's" own energy into the world.

I can accept your viewpoint as valid and agree with it. However, most people are not at that stage yet. I write for people who are just coming to energy work, just opening their minds and hearts, just beginning their research. I accept people where they are. I understand where we are going, but I like to speak to people at their current level instead of moving immediately to the way it should be. If you've read the Celestine Prophecy or done much on energy research, which I am sure you have, then yes, the real model that you describe seems to be the way it should and will be eventually.


In Chasidism, it is believed that there are pathways between God and the world, and that by performing the right actions with the right intentions and by the grace of God, God can be drawn down into the world as the indwelling spirit of the world. I take this view in my own way to mean that the spirit of universal love, or God, can be brought into the world by love, and that actually love itself is the bringing in of God, such that the action and the result are the same thing.

That is beautiful. I think people have a misconception about what love is. They equate the emotional and selfish feeling they sometimes feel for others as the same love that is the energy that binds this Creation and beyond as One. I think that human love, all too often, is only a pale and weak reflection of that greater and more powerful force that is Divinity itself.


Food definitely provides energy for us, but it is very much a mechanical sort of energy which allows the biological functioning of the body but little more. Of course, purer food sources might do that in a more efficient way and even have emotional and spiritual effects, but the mechanism of such an action is, I think, almost fully biological. The greater energy must be that energy which we create amongst ourselves; food helps maintain the mechanical functioning of the body, but love works miracles: it heals beyond hope; it pushes a person past the exhaustion of the body; it makes trifles of the most insurmountable obstacles.

We are biological beings. Most of us, fully. Some, moving toward a higher vibration and are less dependent. So you seek to be a Breatharian, eh? :)


I wholeheartedly agree that from the get-go we're lead to believe that we can only have something by taking it from others. What we have said here, that energy needn't be stolen to be gained, is an idea for which the greatest evidence is required of us by those who are trapped in their sickly paradigm, but which really is the more obvious of the two: when you go home and see your children and witness their purity and innocence, it must have the power to drive away the worst of bad feelings and purify your own energy. The purity of a child's energy and the purity of one's love for them isn't stolen from them, but it resonates and brings others into harmony with the higher energy.

Well, many people steal energy from their children. Many people are sick. Many people get addicted to others energy. Some people give, others take. It is a fact of life and of being in this world.


We're supposed to believe that when the bad and the good mix, we're left with two lots of indifference; when the black and the white are mixed, we're left with two lots of grey. Essentially, the balancing of extremes leads to something insipid, indistinct and unfavourable; that balance is a compromise which pleases neither. In reality, the higher vibration isn't polluted by the lower vibration such that the high elevates the low and the low diminishes the high, but rather that the high, allowed to do its work, elevates the low until both of them are high. There is nothing greater than children to fight off the soul-decaying atmosphere that persists these days.

Hm. I'm not sure about the above. I understand it, but do not believe that being within either extreme is the true path. I am not a Love and Lighter. I believe that the balance is the Path. Balance between Light and Dark as reflections of dualistic opposition, between materialism and the ethereal. I believe that both are necessary, the low and the high, and that between them around which they both spiral and return to source.

Thank you so much for your comment, this is a very important topic. :)