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Cjay
5th December 2011, 00:13
Despite this "deal", I don't trust Facebook. I believe they have broken many laws and just about every principle of trust. Not to mention their having been funded by the CIA. This "deal" does not punish Facebook for their crimes and indiscretions. I see this as a whitewash.

To me, Facebook is CIA's DIY dossier system and they use it to spy on close to 1/5 of the world's population. If someone can prove me wrong on that, I'd love to see your arguments.


Facebook under privacy watch for 20 years,
Zuckerberg: 'we've made a bunch of mistakes'

Facebook settled with the FTC over "charges that it deceived consumers by telling them they could keep their information on Facebook private, and then repeatedly allowing it to be shared and made public." Jon Leibowitz, Chairman of the FTC said, "Facebook is obligated to keep the promises about privacy that it makes to its hundreds of millions of users. Facebook's innovation does not have to come at the expense of consumer privacy. The FTC action will ensure it will not."

But according to Mark Zuckerberg, "Complete control" over who users share with has been the idea at the "core of Facebook since day one." Furthermore Zuck thinks, "we have a good history of providing transparency and control over who can see your information." In regard to privacy on Facebook, Zuck claims "privacy principles are written very deeply into our code.... privacy is so deeply embedded in all of the development we do that every day tens of thousands of servers worth of computational resources are consumed checking to make sure that on any webpage we serve, that you have access to see each of the sometimes hundreds or even thousands of individual pieces of information that come together to form a Facebook page." Yet he admits "we've made a bunch of mistakes."

You think? The FTC press release states:


The FTC's eight-count complaint against Facebook is part of the agency's ongoing effort to make sure companies live up to the privacy promises they make to American consumers. It charges that the claims that Facebook made were unfair and deceptive, and violated federal law.

Specifically, under the proposed settlement, Facebook is:


barred from making misrepresentations about the privacy or security of consumers' personal information;
required to obtain consumers' affirmative express consent before enacting changes that override their privacy preferences;
required to prevent anyone from accessing a user's material more than 30 days after the user has deleted his or her account;
required to establish and maintain a comprehensive privacy program designed to address privacy risks associated with the development and management of new and existing products and services, and to protect the privacy and confidentiality of consumers' information; and
required, within 180 days, and every two years after that for the next 20 years, to obtain independent, third-party audits certifying that it has a privacy program in place that meets or exceeds the requirements of the FTC order, and to ensure that the privacy of consumers' information is protected.



Full story: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/facebook-under-privacy-watch-20-years-zuckerberg-weve-made-bunch-mistakes

TargeT
5th December 2011, 00:33
FACE BOOK is a CIA information collection tool; their initial funding came from IN-Q-TEL (a CIA money front) & zuckerberg is not what he seems.


that's really all that needs to be said.

Vitalux
5th December 2011, 00:46
FACE BOOK is a CIA information collection tool; their initial funding came from IN-Q-TEL (a CIA money front) & zuckerberg is not what he seems.


that's really all that needs to be said.

knowing what I understand now..... I suspect that every single thing we do on the net is recorded and can be used against us rather knowingly or unknowingly.

Often people say to me when i mention facts to them;

"what is the point of thinking about such things, there is nothing you can do to change things"

I respond with;

" I can not change the way a banana grows, however it is interesting to understand why the banana is yellow and grows the way it does."

http://images.chriswillard.multiply.com/image/1/photos/upload/300x300/Rh@upgoKCoMAACWzOtY1/monkey%20eating%20banana.jpg?et=PgZYCcc%2CGw%2C591piUZXEOg&nmid=24795268&nmid=24795268

Mark
5th December 2011, 00:48
FACE BOOK is a CIA information collection tool; their initial funding came from IN-Q-TEL (a CIA money front) & zuckerberg is not what he seems.


that's really all that needs to be said.


This is why all that will ever happen will be relatively meaningless taps on the wrist like this one until the system as is is dismantled for good.

MiguelQ
5th December 2011, 02:40
My Facebook privacy was broken. They shared info to cops because one problem i had. The problem is that probably they broke more people without they knowing.
The truth is i got cops on the door. Now how ?
But that's ok. I don't need to hide. If i had anything really important to hide. The message would be encrypted with a very special method, that don't even via could decode. Much harder than their kryptos thing, they gave public to decode.

Mark
5th December 2011, 02:43
My Facebook privacy was broken. They shared info to cops because one problem i had. The problem is that probably they broke more people without they knowing.
The truth is i got cops on the door. Now how ?

Thank you for sharing your story. We need more people to come out and share, so people will finally realize that this stuff is not make-believe, it is not something that is happening to other people, it is happening right now, right here (wherever in the world you are) to people right next door, down the street, on the next block over.

I hope everything turns out well for you.

Cjay
5th December 2011, 03:08
FACE BOOK is a CIA information collection tool; their initial funding came from IN-Q-TEL (a CIA money front) & zuckerberg is not what he seems.


that's really all that needs to be said.

knowing what I understand now..... I suspect that every single thing we do on the net is recorded and can be used against us rather knowingly or unknowingly.

I urge everyone to read my posts and the posts of others in this thread, starting here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36180-Alternative-to-Gmail&p=371852&viewfull=1#post371852

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My Facebook privacy was broken. They shared info to cops because one problem i had. The problem is that probably they broke more people without they knowing.
The truth is i got cops on the door. Now how ?
But that's ok. I don't need to hide. If i had anything really important to hide. The message would be encrypted with a very special method, that don't even via could decode. Much harder than their kryptos thing, they gave public to decode.

This is a very important point - thanks for raising it. Off the shelf encryption is almost useless because they made it and they have a master key.

TargeT
6th December 2011, 00:59
But that's ok. I don't need to hide. If i had anything really important to hide. The message would be encrypted with a very special method, that don't even via could decode. Much harder than their kryptos thing, they gave public to decode.

I see encryption as a double edged sword.

the fastest way to get on a watch list is to start encrypting a lot of traffic at high levels of complexity; and really you might make it "hard" to get to your message, but not impossible... & if quantum computing exsists somewhere... well all encryption (suposedly) is breakable.

its best to assume that everything that leaves your body is heard by someone (& apparently that can even include thoughts, thuogh the internet is worse as it is litteraly recorded the second its there, not possibly recorded like voice)