Out of Body Experiences—Have You Ever Had One? Any Tips?

[Jeffrey]

Hello all,

I have known about OBEs for a while, but I've never mustered up any sort of ambition to try it until now. Has anyone read any of Monroe's books on the subject? Or anything by anyone with any type of credibility? What's the best way to do it?

[alienHunter]

I may have done it by accident...it's a pretty intense experience. It was when I was about to fall asleep (that's why I say maybe...it could have been merely a sleep phenomena). I flew to New York city and encountered a large fire where I helped rescue people from a burning building. The next day I read in the newspaper that the night before there had been a major apartment fire in New York city and of course, bystanders had helped rescue people from the fire. I've had a few other experiences like that...:eek:

[Caren]

Hi Vivek,
There are a few very interesting threads started here previously on the topic of OOBE; especially Mod Jake's thread -" OOB and RV" I included the link in a PM to you and suggest you take a look - you won't be disappointed!
Best of luck :)

[Precog]

I have done it after a NDE and it was very easy at that time as I could go anywhere I wanted within two minutes. What I found very surprising is that you take a copy of your body with you. I'm not sure if others can see it but when I raised my hand to touch something I could see my arm. It was so amazing I really enjoyed it. It is easy to do if you wake up in the night after about 3 or 4 hours of sleep and try it. I also have the ability to wake up during a dream and I can keep the dream going while awake. If it stops I can think of it as I fall back to sleep and go right back into it. I can also control my dreams path. If something starts to happen that I do not like I turn it to a positive direction. I have had Percognitive dreams all my life so I dont' know if that has anything to do with it. I have Monroe's book and I agree with him. Good luck with your journey.

[alienHunter]

I have done it after a NDE and it was very easy at that time as I could go anywhere I wanted within two minutes. What I found very surprising is that you take a copy of your body with you. I'm not sure if others can see it but when I raised my hand to touch something I could see my arm. It was so amazing I really enjoyed it. It is easy to do if you wake up in the night after about 3 or 4 hours of sleep and try it. I also have the ability to wake up during a dream and I can keep the dream going while awake. If it stops I can think of it as I fall back to sleep and go right back into it. I can also control my dreams path. If something starts to happen that I do not like I turn it to a positive direction. I have had Percognitive dreams all my life so I dont' know if that has anything to do with it. I have Monroe's book and I agree with him. Good luck with your journey.


yeah, me too...Do you have any explanations for your experiences...family history, etc..I'm also curious if you are able or even try to use that skill in a productive way?

[Caren]

@Precog it is true that you take an exact copy of your physical body with you when OOB experiencing; however your 'memory' whilst in OOB is separate from your 'physical body' memory hence OOBE's can be difficult to remember upon waking but not for all. This is also explained in Mod Jake's amazing thread on OOB and RV (remote viewing).

[RMorgan]

There is a good free e-book about it out there. It´s called School Of Out-Of-The-Body travel, a practical guide.

Here´s the link:

http://www.obe4u.com/files/SOBT.pdf

It´s pretty practical indeed and should get you started easily.

Cheers,

Raf.

[childs hood end]

broke me back fallin out of a tree 20 years ago and was brought back to life twice`` i can remember floating around above myself watching the medics work on me as a big crowd gatherd around it was a wierd exsperience, then i woke from a coma couple of hours later.
another time about 2 years ago while meditating i floated up true the ceiling` then up true the roof and out into space` i got a bit scared` an boom` was back in my body,,,

[Precog]

yeah, me too...Do you have any explanations for your experiences...family history, etc..I'm also curious if you are able or even try to use that skill in a productive way?

The last three generations of my family have had Precog dreams (Mother, Grand Mother and Great G. Mother) I remember most of what I see when back in body. I can also hear and see what is going on at the location of my body while out but have no ability to move or talk. I found this out while I was out of body and my wife started talking to me. I went out without trying to do it and my eyes were open. When I did not respond to my wife she thought I had died and started to freak out. I had to get back to talk to her. I laughed till I cryed as it was the most incredible experience of my life. She had some words for me which I will not include here.

[ktlight]

I have had two types of OBEs. Two of one type were when I was sick and both times came out. The first one was when I was about 4 years old. I still remember the feeling of freedom and joy out there, and being told to go back. The second was when i was an adult and was given the choice of whether or not to go back.

Then there is the other type which I did ore than once, where I would sit and completely relax and imagine focussing me departing through a funnel in the top of my head. I would feel when I had accomplished this and travelled around. This freaked out some when I related where they had been, upon my return.

These events just happened.

[alienHunter]

I have had two types of OBEs. Two of one type were when I was sick and both times came out. The first one was when I was about 4 years old. I still remember the feeling of freedom and joy out there, and being told to go back. The second was when i was an adult and was given the choice of whether or not to go back.

Then there is the other type which I did ore than once, where I would sit and completely relax and imagine focussing me departing through a funnel in the top of my head. I would feel when I had accomplished this and travelled around. This freaked out some when I related where they had been, upon my return.

These events just happened.

I did that once when I was smoking pot...scared the heck out of me...

[Unified Serenity]

I have had OBE's most of my life. Many people do when in dream state and do not recognize it. I imagine if they went under hypnosis, they would discover a great deal. Most of mine deal with exploration and helping others, though I have had some very odd ones that I am always wearing the same dark blue jumpsuit with a strange insignia on it, and I am flying a craft which looks similar but much more advance to a large jet fighter. I cannot explain this a whole lot because I only retain small portions of it. I'm never afraid in these situations with the jet fighter, but I have had lots of spiritual warfare dreams that do get quite hairy and the energy is very uncomfortable. They like to touch me, and I dislike it.

[Caren]

The second OOB I experienced occurred spontaneously whilst praying/meditating. My body exited via my naval area; floated toward the ceiling and through the roof. I found myself outside standing on the ground and then watched the rooftops on all the houses in the village become small black dots as I traveled up and up. I was suspended and staring at millions of stars.. I could see them 360 and they were stunning and infinite.

[Beren]

I have had OBE's most of my life. Many people do when in dream state and do not recognize it. I imagine if they went under hypnosis, they would discover a great deal. Most of mine deal with exploration and helping others, though I have had some very odd ones that I am always wearing the same dark blue jumpsuit with a strange insignia on it, and I am flying a craft which looks similar but much more advance to a large jet fighter. I cannot explain this a whole lot because I only retain small portions of it. I'm never afraid in these situations with the jet fighter, but I have had lots of spiritual warfare dreams that do get quite hairy and the energy is very uncomfortable. They like to touch me, and I dislike it.

It seems like you are here with a mission!
And I`m serious after reading about same suit and jet... Another star system?

[Unified Serenity]

I do not recall enough to know where I am from, who I am working with, though I can tell you there is this utter sense of peace and control, no fear. I can also tell you that I have always been drawn to the the 7 sisters. I have never felt "home" here.

[Unified Serenity]

Oh, one more interesting thing, the color deep red has always had a weird affect on me. I am drawn to cherry glass like a moth to flame, I cannot explain it. It almost mesmerizes me. It is my favorite color, though I have mostly blue in my wardrobe here.

http://ny-image1.etsy.com/il_430xN.67595497.jpg

That being said, I avoid same color in astral as the effect is not positive, and I know to stay clear.

[Beren]

I do not recall enough to know where I am from, who I am working with, though I can tell you there is this utter sense of peace and control, no fear. I can also tell you that I have always been drawn to the the 7 sisters. I have never felt "home" here.

That`s fascinating!
If this can be called OBE my first memory is the moment of birth, I am floating around in formless shape seeing the birth room and nurses and rest of them faintly and then clear thought - Here I am ,here we go.
Then I guess I slipped into body and all rest was blank until age of five or so...

I have a storing feeling to leave but that means not to go anywhere in any particular system , just into higher dimension where I feel my home is.
I have inner sympathies to Arcturus and Pleiades but I don`t have a feeling that there lies my home.

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Oh, one more interesting thing, the color deep red has always had a weird affect on me. I am drawn to cherry glass like a moth to flame, I cannot explain it. It almost mesmerizes me. It is my favorite color, though I have mostly blue in my wardrobe here.

http://ny-image1.etsy.com/il_430xN.67595497.jpg

That being said, I avoid same color in astral as the effect is not positive, and I know to stay clear.

Mine is blue and emerald...

;)

[Unified Serenity]

I don't think my home is anywhere near here and at the same time is all around us. This is a very interesting place, and I feel like I am meant to be here for something. I can just take each day, study, seek, and live a life of integrity and honor.

[grapevine]

Hello all,

I have known about OBEs for a while, but I've never mustered up any sort of ambition to try it until now. Has anyone read any of Monroe's books on the subject? Or anything by anyone with any type of credibility? What's the best way to do it?

Yes - I've had loads. My advice would be to take it easy and not rush it - just take your time and experiment. The best way to do it (for me) is the in the short gap between lying down to sleep and sleeping. You get a sort of buzzzing feeling - like you're falling out of bed or something. This is quite common and we tend to fight it. When this happens just let go and RELAX and it will happen. But don't do too much too soon ....... there are loads of books - Monroe is the daddy but his experiences happened spontaneously like mine. Robert Waggoner is quite good - he touches on lucid dreaming as well . .. . imo this is definitely the gateway to everything.

[alienHunter]

Hello all,

I have known about OBEs for a while, but I've never mustered up any sort of ambition to try it until now. Has anyone read any of Monroe's books on the subject? Or anything by anyone with any type of credibility? What's the best way to do it?

Yes - I've had loads. My advice would be to take it easy and not rush it - just take your time and experiment. The best way to do it (for me) is the in the short gap between lying down to sleep and sleeping. You get a sort of buzzzing feeling - like you're falling out of bed or something. This is quite common and we tend to fight it. When this happens just let go and RELAX and it will happen. But don't do too much too soon ....... there are loads of books - Monroe is the daddy but his experiences happened spontaneously like mine. Robert Waggoner is quite good - he touches on lucid dreaming as well . .. . imo this is definitely the gateway to everything.

Hi wmill, a kind of a buzzing...be honest now...it's more like a TWWWWAAAANNNNGGG...not to scare Vivek :o

[WhiteFeather]

No OBE's, But I have had several Astral Projection Experiences, that were most amazing. Flying and Soaring in mountains and valleys of wonderful colors of Blue and Orange. Most Incredible to say the least. And Also falling out of the sky in my dream, and dropping into amazing crystal blue oceans.

[grapevine]

Say alienHunter . . . .

Are you taking the piss . . . ( or just sizing me up for a Men in Black body bag) ?

:)

Edit: Sorry, you didn't get me. No . . . . mine is a buzzing feeling in the ears together with a dizzy feeling. If I relax I come out of my body (local) but if I "throw" myself out (expand), then I end up in weird places . . . . sorry, really thought you were taking the mickey .... :)

[truth4me]

I don't think my home is anywhere near here and at the same time is all around us. This is a very interesting place, and I feel like I am meant to be here for something. I can just take each day, study, seek, and live a life of integrity and honor. One of the best reply's I've seen on this message board........one day at a time -study-seek-live a life of integrity and honor......If each one of us followed that path the worlds problems would be no more.......:hail:

[christian]

Guess what, a thread on OBEs already exists. It's a rather lengthy and informative one, enjoy :)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26845-The-Out-of-Body-Experience

[truth4me]

I've had a few in my times so far yet one stands out. I was asleep one night in Oct'08 and I woke up and sit straight up in my bed and turned my body and realized my physical body was still asleep. I was looking at my body!

Now 2 dark entities were trying to push me back in my body and I remember telling them "you can't hold me! I'm going to my Father<creator God>" They backed off and quick. I felt like pure energy! It felt wonderful! I looked at the ceiling and flew right threw it.


Now I was in looking down at earth,which was the size of a soccer ball from my point of view, and said "that place,earth, is so insignificant". Then I heard a female voice say "go back it's not time yet" and I left and woke up in my body. I did not want to come back. I felt free and strong and it was awesome.....

[alienHunter]

Say alienHunter . . . .

Are you taking the piss . . . ( or just sizing me up for a Men in Black body bag) ?

:)

trust me...neither... ;)

[transitionalman]

I have come close twice. I remember hearing someone say to set your alarm to 3AM because it's easier to have an OBE after you wake up in the middle of the night. But I must have been too tired and just fell asleep right there. The next thing I know I wake up at 4AM and just intended on having an OBE. As soon as I went back sleep, I starting hearing this vibrational sound that everyone seems to be referring to!

[Soul Safari]

Think i had an OBE when i was 14. But i was really ill with a virus at the time so it was all kind of weird. But i was def looking up, looking down on myself at the same time. But i regularly dream then switch to watching myself sleep. This may only last 10 seconds or so. When i wake up im actually in the position i was watching myself in. Is this the same thing? I have no idea about all this..

[Cartomancer]

My OBE was over twenty years ago and involved copious amounts of liberty caps. I saw and interacted with pythons, tattooed people, strange indescribable creatures etc. I could see music coming out of the speakers. I had visions of what seemed to be the past that were real in every way. I could smell things even. I could see myself laying on the couch from above. I felt as if I could go anywhere I wanted to go but was afraid to do it.

When I came to consciousness again I found my buddy swinging naked from a tree into the swimming pool in the back yard. Especially funny since his pool faced the 18th hole of a golf course. There were many spectators. No one got in trouble luckily.

[DeDukshyn]

Just an anecdotal story ....

I had a few astral travel experiences as a child. I had no idea what they where at the time (except for .. "Wow! Cool!"), so I just called the "special" dreams. I just recently recalled that I had been able to astral travel as a kid within the last couple years (i'm 37) - it had been stripped from my memory. now that I am getting some recall into this phenomenon, can vaguely recall someone visited me once - astrally - while I was doing this and told me to never do it again -I can't recall the exact details, or the exact agreement made, but to this day I cannot astral travel despite being able to "separate" my astral vibrations from my physical ones. I can lay in one spot vibrating as two separate entities but cannot seem to separate them. I am currently looking more deeply into this as I suspect that there are actual funded programs in place to prevent people from knowing the reality that they are not their bodies. People coming to this realization will begin to break down the giant false paradigm that keeps their economies going.

This is something that I want to look into more if anyone has anything to offer me in regards to this feel free to PM me.

[Jeffrey]

Wow, what a long day! Thanks for all of the replies, between the links and threads shared I have plenty to chew on! I think I may have begun to have one twice (an OBE). Once in high school... I was dozing off in bed and I woke up unable to move (like a very heavy lead blanket was covering me) and then I was surrounded by a thunderous pounding. It's as if hundreds of fists were pounding on the walls of the room. It really freaked me out and I'm still not sure what it was. The second time was back in college. I was meditating and I had the sensation of climbing out of the top of my head. I don't know how to explain the feeling... almost like I was in a greater presence, too much awe for me to bear—a sensation of vastness. That freaked me out too. I want to intentionally try it now. I need to learn more about it—technique, the science behind it, and anecdotal accounts. Anyways, I appreciate the help! Thanks again y'all.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Hey Vivek, you should try talking to Jake (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?723-Jake) he's very knowledgeable and experienced in this area. He has a website (http://www.thebookofjacob.webs.com/) from which you can also download his book on this topic.

Hope this helps :-)

[Jeffrey]

So, I've been diligently trying to have an OBE since the day I started this thread. Something happened on the second night of attempting. I remember consciously catching myself at a point between awake and asleep. Then I tried the roll out method. I remember the vibrations. They seemed strong then but remembering back now they didn't seem that intense. I vaguely remember rolling out but I couldn't see anything. Then I think I actually fell asleep. Within an hour I was half awake again so I thought I'd give it another shot. Same exact thing happened. I remember half thinking—wow, this is really real—when I was experiencing the vibrations. The memory of the experience is growing more faint as the days pass. Now, I'm not even sure I experienced it at all, I feel it could have just been the phantom sensations of an actual dream.

Today, I laid myself down at around 2:00pm for another OBE trial. I am getting better at keeping my conscious aware as my body falls asleep. I am also getting to the sleep paralysis state quicker. Albeit I have not consciously had an OBE, I did experience some new sensations this afternoon. The first was light blinking on and off under my eyelids. I had a black sock (clean and fresh out of the wash) covering my eyes, but it was as if someone was holding a strobe light in front of my face. This happened twice within a minute and lasted about 5-10 seconds each time.

The second sensation happened as I realized I was slipping into a dream. I became mentally aware and exited the dream whilst my body was just beginning to sleep (I believe). Then I felt a definite vibration. It was a side to side vibration somewhere in between rocking on a boat at sea and the way a rubber band behaves when it is twanged. That subsided quickly. Then in the blackness of my eyelids I could definitely see a hyper complex mandala-like snowflake. It reminded me of a portal and I immediately thought of the pineal gland. That vision faded within minutes and the typical lava-lamp geometric static took it's place in the darkness behind my eyelids (and black sock). That's it (at least for now). I will keep trying. My enthusiasm is still high...can't wait for bed tonight!

Oh, and one more strange thing. The door knob to my room is about to fall off. It's been getting looser and looser the past five or so days. Also, I really think I closed my door before this afternoons trial but when I got up it was open. I honestly could have forgotten to close it. I remember dreams pretty well, so I don't think any post amnesia could be strong enough to block out a quick mid-afternoon OBE. I will know for sure soon enough!

[Jeffrey]

Hello all,

I have known about OBEs for a while, but I've never mustered up any sort of ambition to try it until now. Has anyone read any of Monroe's books on the subject? Or anything by anyone with any type of credibility? What's the best way to do it?

Yes - I've had loads. My advice would be to take it easy and not rush it - just take your time and experiment. The best way to do it (for me) is the in the short gap between lying down to sleep and sleeping. You get a sort of buzzzing feeling - like you're falling out of bed or something. This is quite common and we tend to fight it. When this happens just let go and RELAX and it will happen. But don't do too much too soon ....... there are loads of books - Monroe is the daddy but his experiences happened spontaneously like mine. Robert Waggoner is quite good - he touches on lucid dreaming as well . .. . imo this is definitely the gateway to everything.

How do you "let go"? Of all the methods I've read about separating (i.e. rolling out, floating, climbing a rope, etc.) the main theme is to allow it to happen or just let go. Maybe I'm just not to that point yet so I don't quite understand.

[whenyournex2me]

currently reading a book called "Astral Dynamics,"

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rcuE_YlLdCI/TZo6SSgkUjI/AAAAAAAAAIU/BCMW2aisEDg/s1600/AstralDynamics_500.jpg

[Jeffrey]

currently reading a book called "Astral Dynamics,"

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rcuE_YlLdCI/TZo6SSgkUjI/AAAAAAAAAIU/BCMW2aisEDg/s1600/AstralDynamics_500.jpg

Is there anything on methods of entry/separation? I have just started to read this one ...


There is a good free e-book about it out there. It´s called School Of Out-Of-The-Body travel, a practical guide.

Here´s the link:

http://www.obe4u.com/files/SOBT.pdf

It´s pretty practical indeed and should get you started easily.

Cheers,

Raf.

So far it seems very practical.

[Carmody]

I was listening to this...when I found this thread:

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[RMorgan]

The rolling separation method works very fine for me. After years of practice, I found it to be the most efficient.

However, don´t force it. You will know when the time comes for you to go out...There´s no way to explain it. It´s just somewhere at the peak of the vibrational state.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Jeffrey]

The rolling separation method works very fine for me. After years of practice, I found it to be the most efficient.

However, don´t force it. You will know when the time comes for you to go out...There´s no way to explain it. It´s just somewhere at the peak of the vibrational state.

Cheers,

Raf.

Thanks, Raf. I read from the e-book that you linked in your previous post (just after I posted that question about separation/entry) that one would be almost forced out once they are in the right state. To just go with it makes a little more sense now. So, double thanks to you pal.

:)

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Not aware of a OBE in the classic sense, where I could look down and see my body.

I have awakened from a dream, to another dream, and yet awakened to another dream. Three layers of dreamingl

And I've had a few lucid dreams, where I knew I was dreaming and could control the dream.

Years ago in the week long Gateway program at the Monroe Institute I had two peak experiences but not an OBE.

I would like to have the ability to do OBE.

[whenyournex2me]

For met ATM I am very new to understanding anything other than what was taught to me, rather than what I sought to learn. So for my OBE experience, I am very in experienced. I have had one very potent OBE that I recall. Short OBE's are good for starters because they allow one to remember or recall the experience. As for the layers of the dream world, there are three layers...

And I quote: This is from the Astal Dynamics book, and I have only read the first chapter tonight! :)

"In a nutshell, during an OBE the mind splits into copies that operate simultaneously - the physical body/mind, the projected body/mind, and the dream body/mind. This complexity causes many problems during re-integration, when the physical body/mind awakens and three separate memory streams for the same time period must form a single memory. Habitual beliefs and memory processes, and your higher self, have a lot to do with the resulting memory, or the lack of one. Understanding this concept, and how to work with it and around it, it crucial for successful OBE."

Hope this clears up some questions you may have. It surely makes me aware of more than I knew, and the more I learn, the more I see I have to learn. I hope I can manage to make enough time to learn as much as I can while still in the physical body/mind. (before I leave this place). :popcorn::thumb:

[DarMar]

Nice thread,

Considering OBE's i've had them all my life. Started in very young age as purely unconscious act. Through that time i had very interesting experiences.
World in OBE state is not static and material, its changing with peception .. so i knew to visit same places in past and see them in future also.
Funny thing is its not always reliable information collected out of body as i could grasp. There was few times ive visited my part of city in not too distant future and saw it exactly how its now. I shared that description with friends mother which was into Sai Baba (she loved to listen about OBE's) .. She's kinda stunned by that description even today. Sometimes id get reliable information and sometimes not very interesting one. And that was all part of unconscious travels.
Soon i realised there is more to that than just coincidence and i started to practice leaving body on my will, not just accidentaly.
And i managed to discover that part of the play without too much problems, simply i would lie down and start to feel vibrations from top of my fingers on hands and legs, soon that vibration spreads and i could feel something like two vibrations, and as soon that happens i get up, but my material body stays in bed, and rest is play.

Now comes interesting part :)
As soon i started to do it on conscious i got the warning not to do it on conscious! Warning came from all directions to me but i didnt care much.
Few times after that knowing i went OBE and first thing i would see is a silouette lurking at me. He actually never did anything nor tryed to contact me. That was weird cause i never seen that entity before and when in OBE state i simply knew that i should not get too much involved with that entity cause he doesnt care as we do for life and play. Few times i politely asked him to go, leave me... but without any response from him. As he was monitoring my actions and expecting that i do something so he can act. With time i stopped doing OBE explorations, and is very similar to DeDukshyn description:
it had been stripped from my memory. now that I am getting some recall into this phenomenon, can vaguely recall someone visited me once - astrally - while I was doing this and told me to never do it again -I can't recall the exact details, or the exact agreement made, but to this day I cannot astral travel despite being able to "separate" my astral vibrations from my physical ones.

I got somekind of blockade but really reminds me more to somekind of agreement described from DeDukshyn, one slight difference is that i still can reach to leave my body but that monitoring presence is what doesnt give me much peace at exploration.
It is more like ultimatum .. dont do that and youre ok typo agreement

[Elethia]

I don't think my home is anywhere near here and at the same time is all around us. This is a very interesting place, and I feel like I am meant to be here for something. I can just take each day, study, seek, and live a life of integrity and honor.

That distills beautifully what so many of us here feel. Love your simplicity and directness. We are here, embrace it with all you've got to offer. We aren't going anywhere, not up or down. We start right where we are and bring home here. One day we WILL understand.

[Jeffrey]

Nice thread,

Considering OBE's i've had them all my life. Started in very young age as purely unconscious act. Through that time i had very interesting experiences.
World in OBE state is not static and material, its changing with peception .. so i knew to visit same places in past and see them in future also.
Funny thing is its not always reliable information collected out of body as i could grasp. There was few times ive visited my part of city in not too distant future and saw it exactly how its now. I shared that description with friends mother which was into Sai Baba (she loved to listen about OBE's) .. She's kinda stunned by that description even today. Sometimes id get reliable information and sometimes not very interesting one. And that was all part of unconscious travels.
Soon i realised there is more to that than just coincidence and i started to practice leaving body on my will, not just accidentaly.
And i managed to discover that part of the play without too much problems, simply i would lie down and start to feel vibrations from top of my fingers on hands and legs, soon that vibration spreads and i could feel something like two vibrations, and as soon that happens i get up, but my material body stays in bed, and rest is play.

Now comes interesting part :)
As soon i started to do it on conscious i got the warning not to do it on conscious! Warning came from all directions to me but i didnt care much.
Few times after that knowing i went OBE and first thing i would see is a silouette lurking at me. He actually never did anything nor tryed to contact me. That was weird cause i never seen that entity before and when in OBE state i simply knew that i should not get too much involved with that entity cause he doesnt care as we do for life and play. Few times i politely asked him to go, leave me... but without any response from him. As he was monitoring my actions and expecting that i do something so he can act. With time i stopped doing OBE explorations, and is very similar to DeDukshyn description:
it had been stripped from my memory. now that I am getting some recall into this phenomenon, can vaguely recall someone visited me once - astrally - while I was doing this and told me to never do it again -I can't recall the exact details, or the exact agreement made, but to this day I cannot astral travel despite being able to "separate" my astral vibrations from my physical ones.

I got somekind of blockade but really reminds me more to somekind of agreement described from DeDukshyn, one slight difference is that i still can reach to leave my body but that monitoring presence is what doesnt give me much peace at exploration.
It is more like ultimatum .. dont do that and youre ok typo agreement

I was thinking about this today. I do not hear nor see my spirit guide(s). I believe I have one; call it a guardian angel, my higher Self, or what you will. Nonetheless, I haven't made contact. Perhaps I haven't tried diligently enough. Do you guys think it's possible that we entered a "pre-birth contract" with our spirit guide? Here's an example. Albeit I consider myself very blessed and fortunate, I have difficulty asking for help. I am so headstrong that I'll just tackle any challenge and keep at it until I make some headway (after that I tend to just set it aside ... not finishing things I start is a weakness of mine). Anyways, I was wondering if maybe whilst making the "game-plan" for this life I told my spirit guide—"Hey, I got this. No need for direct communication; synchronicities at the most. I want to figure this out on my own". Then, I just dove in! Haha, I hope this isn't the case!

Please, spirit guide(s) or whoever you are help me in the name of benevolence and love! :o

Maybe, your spirit guides are telling you to stop because somehow it wasn't part of the plan for you in this life? Like cutting corners while working out your karma or something. Maybe, having an OBE and being able to astral project would change your life in such a way as to reduce the probabilities of you encountering the circumstances necessary to work out the karma that you previously set out to engage in this life. Sounds possible? What do y'all think? This might just be my elaborate attempt to explain away those "sour" grapes that I haven't been able to reach (...yet!).

[whenyournex2me]

Soon i realised there is more to that than just coincidence and i started to practice leaving body on my will, not just accidentaly.
And i managed to discover that part of the play without too much problems, simply i would lie down and start to feel vibrations from top of my fingers on hands and legs, soon that vibration spreads and i could feel something like two vibrations, and as soon that happens i get up, but my material body stays in bed, and rest is play.

"Non physical dimensions are levels of existence at a higher frequency than the known physical universe. It could be said that these levels exist at an angle of perception that we cannot normally perceive, an angle beyond 3-d. Just as different types of energies-light, gravity, x-ray, heat, microwave, etc. - can occupy the same space at the same time, so these different dimensional levels coexist, undetectable by the five senses."

"When dealing with the astral dimension, you cannot simple point and say, "there is the astral dimension!" Although the astral dimension permeates the physical universe, it is for the greater part non spatial. Doorways to the astral exist everywhere and nowhere, both inside an outside of the human mind."



I have felt these vibrations... and they are accelerating more and more as I learn to meditate... Sometimes I feel them with out meditating, and simply just thinking on something with strong emotions behind the thought. But, I leaned that the most effect I had experienced is when I meditate this. Although for some reason I am scared... cause it is very intense. In steps I need to do this.

[alienHunter]

Say alienHunter . . . .

Are you taking the piss . . . ( or just sizing me up for a Men in Black body bag) ?

:)

Edit: Sorry, you didn't get me. No . . . . mine is a buzzing feeling in the ears together with a dizzy feeling. If I relax I come out of my body (local) but if I "throw" myself out (expand), then I end up in weird places . . . . sorry, really thought you were taking the mickey .... :)

I just got back to this post...the only time I've heard that expression was when a guy from Belgium was defending me against a guy from South Africa (originally from Hungary) I had an inkling but wasn't sure.

[KiwiElf]

Heya Vivek - cool post :)

I used to be able to do it (OOBE) pretty easily as a teen. Have read Monroe's book but I learned more from one that may not be quite so well known today. Lobsang T. Rampa's "You Forever". (He covers the whole kaboodle: Astral Projection, clairvoyance, Akashic Record, Telepathy, the Etheric, Auras etc.

I used to lay down flat on my back (apparently is best if you're head is North and feet South-aligned - altho managed it without doing this), light clothing and arms hands down to your side. Concentrate on your breathing and relax with a bit of pre-med of your intention. It's like dropping off to sleep but staying awake - if that makes any sense. I became aware of a light floaty sensation - and then a "rush"... a "Zoooooom" with intense feeling of everything being electrified and incredible speed.

I'd liken it to the ENTERPRISE going into Warp. Where you think, you ARE ;). I could go through walls, fly, instantly be wherever I wanted and yet everything is eerily incandescent... A couple of times I got "stuck" coming back and my body felt like lead - like it wasn't connected - I guess some people would call that sleep paralysis. (Haven't seen a silver cord or looked at myself yet).

I could clearly hear voices far away and even set up an experiment with a friend, we both agreed whoever "got out" first would come visit the other.

Well I managed it first, had never actually visited his house but just by concentrating on him, I was there, in his room. He was reading a book and looked up - straight at me. Only lasted a few seconds tho. Next day I was able to tell him in detail what was in his room, what he was doing and looking straight at me. He freaked! He said it had felt like "something or someone was there".... (hmmm like seeing a ghost).

When I did get to actually visit him for real I was quite shocked to see his room exactly as I'd seen it.

One of the last times I achieved it, some years further on, the experience was really weird - scary in fact. As I was getting into the initial "floaty sensation", I felt what could be called hands lightly pressing on my body although I couldn't see anything. Something or someone (like the proverbial voice in my head) was saying "No, you don't want to do this right now... look over there..." I saw the most horrible looking "thing" I've seen and it reeked of pure evil. It looked like some kind of demon you'd see in a horror flick - very draconian/reptilian-looking with glowing eyes standing very near me in a full cloak holding some kind of staff or stick. Whoa,.. snapped out of it with a real fright and never really tried it again after that.

The last time it happened was spontaneous. I'd spent the whole of a rainy afternoon and very late night reading Queen of the Damned, third book in the "Interview with a Vampire" series. (Such a great read, couldn't put it down till I finished ;)

Anyways, went off to bed and within a short time, almost asleep, "something" was climbing in the bed with me. Today I'd put that down as an Incubus/sucubus experience! LOL. Felt VVVERery real. It wasn't scary but very sexual. (Gonna stop on the details of that one now).

All the other times - with the exception of the scary entity - were amazing little "journeys". (I could never seem to stay out more than about 20-30 mins at a time)