Anonymous - Message to the American People

[Mark Aldebaran]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso&feature=youtu.be

[Nasu]

wow, haven't they upped their production standards… not sure about the court house idea though, or maybe that's the point, to insight people to use their imaginations…

I am suspicious of the whole thing, they feel like a set up, setting up, who are they? where are they? - they are everywhere, everyone, they are people like you.. lock em up..

I wonder what horror will be cast in their name… sorry, my cynical side. The passing of that bill was not good news though, whatever you can sat about the messenger… N

[vibrations]

At least someone raising the voice. This act S.1867 is the entrance to the graveyard of the American (and not only American) people.

[Words of Joy]

Hmm vibrations... I see some simularities in the facial mask of the spokesperson and your avatar... How do you plead? :P

[pyriel]

So the S.1867 act was passed by Obama huh.. The whole bill stanks of put things in place for martial law. Military doing police jobs in they're own country... Then ppl like us, Kerry, Bill all can be arrested, blah blah blah.. Yup, United states of communism. Might be high time for those that dont want to be part of the coming war/violence to head for the hills.

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This time it isnt limited to native americans.

[fox.mulder]

Anonyomous?

[Mulder]

I just want to see if the sheeple will wake up when this law is being enforced. Will they wake up the day their mother or uncle "disappears" or will the just say something like "Well mom is a terrorist, she got what she deserved."

[spiritguide]

Obama has not made a decision yet. How he handles this item will tell a lot about his demeanor and the path forward in the legal chess game. The courts and judges will have final say on whether the law is constitutional or not. Many constitutional oath keepers are on guard and protecting it against all enemies foreign and domestic. At least we now know which senators and congressmen are treasonous and who to fire!

:peace:

[Realeyes]

I am not a Rap fan, but this song is very apt IMHO for this thread. Smile.
The song is called, 'They're calling me a terrorist'. ;) Video does contain some hard hitting graffic images - so lyrics below for those of a gentle nature.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCqp6RZf4Eo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCqp6RZf4Eo


[Lyrics] So, We must ask ourselves, What is the dictionary definition of "Terrorism"?
The systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
But what is terror?

According to the dictionary I hold in my hand, Terror, is violent or destructive acts
Such as bombing committed by groups in order to intimidate a population,
Or government into granting their demands

So whats a terrorist?

[Hook]

They're calling me a terrorist
Like they don't know who the terror is
When they put it on me, I tell them this
I'm all about peace and love
They calling me a terrorist
Like they don't know who the terror is
Insulting my intelligence
Oh how these people judge..

[Verse 1]

It seems like the Rag-heads and Paki's are worrying your Dad
But your dad's favorite food is curry and kebab
It's funny, but it's sad how they make your mummy hurry with her bags
Rather read The Sun than study all the facts
Tell me, what's the bigger threat to human society
BAE Systems or home made IED's
Remote controlled drones, killing off human lives
Or man with home made bomb committing suicide
I know you were terrified when you saw the towers fall
It's all terror but some forms are more powerful
It seems nuts, how could there be such agony
When more Israeli's die from peanut allergies
It's like the definition didn't ever exist
I guess it's all just depending who your nemesis is
Irrelevant how eloquent the rhetoric peddler is
They're telling fibs, now tell us who the real terrorist is

[Hook]

They're calling me a terrorist
Like they don't know who the terror is
When they put it on me, I tell them this
I'm all about peace and love
They calling me a terrorist
Like they don't know who the terror is
Insulting my intelligence
Oh how these people judge..

[Verse 2]

Lumumba was democracy - Mossadegh was democracy
Allende was democracy - Hypocrisy it bothers me
Call you terrorists if you don't wanna be a colony



We used to bow down to a policy of robbery
Is terrorism my lyrics?
When more Vietnam vets kill themselves after the war than died in it?
This is very basic..
One nation in the world has over a thousand military bases
They say it's religion, when clearly it isn't
It's not just Muslims that oppose your imperialism
Is Hugo Chavez a Muslim? Nah.. I didn't think so
Is Castro a Muslim? Nah.. I didn't think so
It's like the definition didn't ever exist
I guess it's all just depending who your nemesis is
Irrelevant how eloquent the rhetoric peddler is
They're telling fibs, now tell us who the terrorist is

[Hook]

They're calling me a terrorist
Like they don't know who the terror is
When they put it on me, I tell them this
I'm all about peace and love
They calling me a terrorist
Like they don't know who the terror is
Insulting my intelligence
Oh how these people judge..

[Outro x2]

You think that I don't know,
But I know, I know, I know
You think that we don't know
But we know

You think that I don't know,
But I know, I know, I know
You think that we don't know
But we DO

**

Was Building 7 terrorism?
Was nanothermite terrorism?
Diego Garcia was terrorism,
I am conscious the Contras was terrorism,
Phosphorous that burns hands - that is terrorism,
Irgun and Stern Gang that was terrorism,
What they did in Hiroshima was terrorism,
What they did in Fallujah was terrorism,
Mandela ANC - that was terrorism,
Jerry Adams IRA - that was terrorism,
Eric Prince black water - it was terrorism,
Oklahoma, McVeigh - that was terrorism,
Everyday USA - that is terrorism,
Everyday UK - that is terrorism,
Everyday...

[ghostrider]

what will the soldiers do, sworn to defend the constitution and the american people against all enemies foreign and domestic ? our political leaders have become enemies of the constitution and the bill of rights. they have become terrorist. attempting to strike fear with their s 1867 bill. we need protection from them. U. S. military where are you ??? Go get them, our founding fathers would be leading the charge with George Washingtion and Abe Lincoln on horseback in the front lines.....If this bill becomes law, the flag is dropped. bye bye freedom. disention is the highest form a patriotism.

[KosmicKat]

Hmm vibrations... I see some simularities in the facial mask of the spokesperson and your avatar... How do you plead? :P

This announcement rips bleeding chunks from the movie "V for Vendetta", a movie which moved me to tears even when I re-watched it. There is a strength that can resist any weapon. When you were young, did you flip a jump-rope to watch the waves travel from one end to another? What you saw, without knowing it, was energy, lifting the rope as it travelled. Our physical forms are like the rope, we can be the energy, and when we get to the end of the rope? whoever is holding the end might not notice it, but that energy has to go somewhere.

[eric charles]

And to think this will only be confined to America is delusional , everytime the U.S passes a bill , The Canadian Government follows suit every time !

Bills are passed with even more Stealth here in Canada , here one would have to watch CPAC (the Canadian parliement broadcasting) all the time to know what the hell is going on . One can watch CBC all they want , CBC is directly owned and operated by the Government as a Crown Corporation , no real news ever comes out of CBC in my opinion !

We get more accurate news coming from Russiatoday.com then our local broadcasting

Canadians beware this is coming to us also !

[Ilie Pandia]

While I agree that humans should be made aware of the dangers of this bill, the "Anonymous" video seems to suggest that "relax... we got your back!". Their track record is not so great and I don't expect them to do anything despite their slogan "expect us".

Do the American people know the lawful way to prevent a bill from being passed or to propose and pass a new bill? If that is not possible then this means congress men do as they please? Do you have there such a concept as a "vote of confidence" that the people could use to remove from power anyone who does not represent their best interest? Can the American people remove Obama from office today and not wait for the elections year? And if yes why don't they do it?

I believe the above questions should be answered and acted upon, and not wait around for a masked computer voice to do something.

[eric charles]

While I agree that humans should be made aware of the dangers of this bill, the "Anonymous" video seems to suggest that "relax... we got your back!". Their track record is not so great and I don't expect them to do anything despite their slogan "expect us".

Do the American people know the lawful way to prevent a bill from being passed or to propose and pass a new bill? If that is not possible then this means congress men do as they please? Do you have there such a concept as a "vote of confidence" that the people could use to remove from power anyone who does not represent their best interest? Can the American people remove Obama from office today and not wait for the elections year? And if yes why don't they do it?

I believe the above questions should be answered and acted upon, and not wait around for a masked computer voice to do something.

The men in Power have always went against the will of the people Illie , why do you think this horrendous bill was even introduced to the House

[Ilie Pandia]

I have another question for you: why is this bill allowed to pass without a legal protest or action to remove that bill and its supporters from office?

As long as the people do nothing, of course those in power get to do anything they want...

[eric charles]

yes I agree , I was just puzzled by the way you posted your statement

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hi, here is a real "mind bender" (well, it is for me...) on president's Obama threat to veto that infamous bill:
GlobalResearch: The Real Reason for Obama’s Threat to Veto the Indefinite Detention Bill (Hint: It’s Not to Protect Liberty) (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28055)
The main reason is that... (drum rolls) military detention would grant POW status to detainees! So they would have "some" rights under Geneva Convention. Currently people are declared as "unlawful enemy combatants" by state. That is not protected by Geneva Convention :( "The Bill" would end regime's present "legal" ability to do as they wish with human life indefinetly... The article points out that constitutional form of U.S. government ended on 9/11 of 2001. And will continue for indefinite period.

If that bill will pass... military would be able to arrest corrupt/psychopathic politicians or CEO's ;)

[pyriel]

I have another question for you: why is this bill allowed to pass without a legal protest or action to remove that bill and its supporters from office?

As long as the people do nothing, of course those in power get to do anything they want...

If I recall correctly, only congress can invoke a "no confidence"(impeachment) on the president. Then when it comes to congress, the people dont have a say in it either.

"In presidential systems, the legislature may occasionally pass motions of no confidence, as was done by the United States Congress to Secretary of State Dean Acheson in the 1950s [4] and was contemplated against Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, but these motions are of symbolic effect only. Presidential systems also usually have the procedure of impeachment by which an executive or judicial officer can be removed.

In certain parts of the United States and Venezuela, the recall election fills a similar role of removing an unpopular government, but, in contrast to a motion of no confidence, this vote involves the entire electorate."

above from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_of_no_confidence

Not the best source I know. just do some research if one wants to find out.

[cloud9]

Any similarity with the movies.......
we used to say: any similarity with real life... is mere coincidence

[13th Warrior]

While I agree that humans should be made aware of the dangers of this bill, the "Anonymous" video seems to suggest that "relax... we got your back!". Their track record is not so great and I don't expect them to do anything despite their slogan "expect us".

Do the American people know the lawful way to prevent a bill from being passed or to propose and pass a new bill? If that is not possible then this means congress men do as they please? Do you have there such a concept as a "vote of confidence" that the people could use to remove from power anyone who does not represent their best interest? Can the American people remove Obama from office today and not wait for the elections year? And if yes why don't they do it?

I believe the above questions should be answered and acted upon, and not wait around for a masked computer voice to do something.

I have to say i know of one person who, if they were here...could answer this question for you.

I hear talk about removing President Obama from office due to being "not fit for office" because of mental defect.

Ultimately the bill is unconstitutional.

[13th Warrior]

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[risveglio]

I have another question for you: why is this bill allowed to pass without a legal protest or action to remove that bill and its supporters from office?

As long as the people do nothing, of course those in power get to do anything they want...

There are petitions to remove the senators that voted for it but I don't see it getting anywhere. The media, with the exception of Freedom Watch, are not even reporting the bill. People are not outraged because they either do not know about the bill, do not understand it implications, think it could never happen to them, and/or trust the government. We need some mass awakening and I am not sure how that can happen. I think even if people were shown a another angle of the JFK assassination stolen from the some secret archive of the CIA, they still would not believe it or care. Our only hope if this ever comes to mass detainment will be the military and whether or not they realize who the real criminals are. Now the fact that it has been shown that maltreated children show same pattern of brain activity as combat soldiers, I am not too hopeful about that outcome either

[KosmicKat]

Any similarity with the movies.......
we used to say: any similarity with real life... is mere coincidence

IMO the only people who believe in coincidence are those still sleeping.

[GlassSteagallfan]

While I agree that humans should be made aware of the dangers of this bill, the "Anonymous" video seems to suggest that "relax... we got your back!". Their track record is not so great and I don't expect them to do anything despite their slogan "expect us".

Do the American people know the lawful way to prevent a bill from being passed or to propose and pass a new bill? If that is not possible then this means congress men do as they please? Do you have there such a concept as a "vote of confidence" that the people could use to remove from power anyone who does not represent their best interest? Can the American people remove Obama from office today and not wait for the elections year? And if yes why don't they do it?

I believe the above questions should be answered and acted upon, and not wait around for a masked computer voice to do something.

I have to say i know of one person who, if they were here...could answer this question for you.

I hear talk about removing President Obama from office due to being "not fit for office" because of mental defect.

Ultimately the bill is unconstitutional.

I just posted an interview with Jeff Steinberg of Executive Intelligence Review magazine. He discusses the inside story of WW3 and the very issue of Obama 'not fit for office'.
Here's the link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36406-Jeff-Steinberg-interview-Inside-story-of-WW3

[the_flyingboy]

i'm still waiting for fb to go down as they said in november

[crested-duck]

This is the reason there are forieign UN troops already stationed here for quite a while now. If a US soldier will not shoot at me, they will do it for them without hesitation. I read only six voted against bill-4dem&2rep. TPTB are going to do what they want, when they want, and however they want. They never cared about anything but themselves from the start.

[Ilie Pandia]

i'm still waiting for fb to go down as they said in november

That and other "threats" did not come to pass: Log of "Anonymous" statements and actions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36425-Log-of-Anonymous-statements-and-actions)

[Turcurulin]

I have another question for you: why is this bill allowed to pass without a legal protest or action to remove that bill and its supporters from office?

As long as the people do nothing, of course those in power get to do anything they want...

I agree, but here's a thought - What if the enforcement of said bill has begun with those who sought 'legal' protest? Remember the most recent Bush Administration's idea of fair protest?.. A 10 by 10 cage 2 miles away from George W's ranch.

Personally, I don't believe there is very much validity in the channels of protest and dissension provided by our 'representatives'. Another by-product of power given up by the people long ago. Why wasn't the American people on the ball with Roswell? The Kennedy Assassination?.. Our reaction to these and other past events has lead to TPTB's projections of our reactions to more recent events - The Patriot Act, S.1867, etc...

All that BPA to keep us from getting angry... I'll be where I need to on 11/5/2012, hopefully.

[risveglio]

This bill was introduce this week to repeal the indefinite detention section. US citizens should at least send a letter to their congressmen asking them to co-sponsor the bill. It is two clicks if you use Popvox link.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-3785