RMorgan´s thread

[RMorgan]

Hey everyone,

I´m making this thread, first to express how thankful I am for all of you to share your knowledge and opinions with me, so, THANK YOU!

Such things were impossible before the internet. Now, the only thing that separates us from the real direct connection is a computer screen.

Humans are truly amazing...Even though I don´t personaly know you, I consider you my friends. You´re welcome here in my house whenever you feel like coming to Brazil for a trip.

Well, I know some of you think I´m a skeptic, some others may think I´m stupid, for questioning everything.

I´m a skeptic indeed, but a skeptic with a very open mind. I´m not afraid of changing my mind and, believe me, PA has made me change it many times.

I don´t believe in UFOs, Aliens and Reincarnation. I used to believe these thinks, but now, after joining PA, I simply know they exist.

There are basically two ways of bringing something to the field of beliefs, to the field of knowledge:

-Prove it scientifically (using real scientific methodology)
-Show such amount of favorable data, that something becomes statistically impossible to neglect (this is what often happens here on PA).

Well, I know that the world is quite a mess right now. It is.

However I must say that, if it is such a mess, we´re all to blame. We´re all living inside this system. Most of us complain about the system but keep enjoying its benefits, like driving a car, buying things and paying taxes. We´re the ones who feed the monsters indeed. Without our cooperation, the monster would starve, for sure.

So, I invite all of you to give the next step and truly boycott the system. We´re responsible to saving ourselves.

One of the first things my father taught me was to assume the responsibility over my actions. We learn this since we were kids. It´s time to assume our responsibility over this mess and try to change it for good.

You know, there are kids working as slaves in Africa, and nobody goes down there to save them!!! How can we expect that some alien federation or some secret society comes here to save us??

This manipulation technique has been used since the invention of religion...Don´t worry, you might live a terrible life, and the world might be a horrific place, but don´t do nothing; trust God and you will be saved!

Well, we´re waiting for something to save us from ourselves for thousands of years and I guess that, by now, most of us know it wont happen.

It´s time to change guys and gals!! The only way to save us from this chaos is to act now! Boycott all the corporations!! I know it´s not easy to live without cars, without the practical side of junk food, without some factory meat, eggs and milk, but if we want something to change, we must make these sacrifices, now!

Or we can keep waiting and sending positive energies for some sort of cosmic federation to save us, which will not happen.

You know, if I were an ET, watching us from the skies, I would just think: OMG! Look at this mess!! Their world is a chaos and they don´t do nothing to change it!! What a stupid naked monkey!!! Lazy selfish bastards!

Consumption is the key folks. There´s an statistic that says if the whole world consumed like the North-Americans and Europeans, we would need about 8 Earths only to supply us...This is something to think about.

I know it´s pretty entertaining to come here and read all this stuff about someone coming here to save us. I like that too. However, we all know how this kind of entertainment is dangerous.

So...That´s it. Thank you all for participating in my life. I truly love and respect you all with my whole heart.

I know most of you are ready to give the next step and make some serious change of lifestyle, so let´s do it now. The best way to teach is by giving examples, so let´s be the examples for our neighbors, family and friends.

It´s up to us to save ourselves.

Cheers,

Raf.

[WhiteFeather]

What we think, we become. Think Different! Love this thread.

[eric charles]

I agree with you 100% Raf

[The One]

Brother i am with you always

Great words and thanks

The One :grouphug:

[Lisab]

Brilliant thread. We wont find out what's "out there" until we find out what's " in here". Big changes are happening in my life anyway right now. The rug has been pulled and Im fine with it. I'm fed up with my ass being owned. No more.

[buckminster fuller]

Excellent, the spirit of Baudrillard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard) is with you bro :)
Let us not be fooled by them, only way out is for us to draw on the map and follow.

[RMorgan]

Excellent, the spirit of Baudrillard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard) is with you bro :)
Let us not be fooled by them, only way out is for us to draw on the map and follow.

Thanks Phil,

"Baudrillard developed theories in which the excessive, fruitless search for total knowledge lead almost inevitably to a kind of delusion."

I really liked this part! I´ll check some of his books, for sure.

Cheers,

Raf.

[buckminster fuller]

Excellent, the spirit of Baudrillard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard) is with you bro :)
Let us not be fooled by them, only way out is for us to draw on the map and follow.

Thanks Phil,

"Baudrillard developed theories in which the excessive, fruitless search for total knowledge lead almost inevitably to a kind of delusion."

I really liked this part! I´ll check some of his books, for sure.

Cheers,

Raf.

If I may, you can start with "The Consumer Society: Myths and Structures", however, I personally needed pen and paper to make side notes in order to grasp it truly... this guy is hard to read, really dense...

Anyway, good thread, you're welcome in bretagne, france, anytime...

Peace out !

[RMorgan]

Excellent, the spirit of Baudrillard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard) is with you bro :)
Let us not be fooled by them, only way out is for us to draw on the map and follow.

Thanks Phil,

"Baudrillard developed theories in which the excessive, fruitless search for total knowledge lead almost inevitably to a kind of delusion."

I really liked this part! I´ll check some of his books, for sure.

Cheers,

Raf.

If I may, you can start with "The Consumer Society: Myths and Structures", however, I personally needed pen and paper to make side notes in order to grasp it truly... this guy is hard to read, really dense...

Anyway, good thread, you're welcome in bretagne, france, anytime...

Peace out !

Hey Phil,

Thanks. I´ll buy this book right now. I´m actually used to read dense books. A pen and paper are fundamental indeed to absorb the information. Books like this are meant to be studied, not simply read.

Thanks for welcoming me in your home as well! I really appreciate it! You´re welcome here as well! :)

Cheers,

Raf.

[Mark]

Great points, Raf. I guess that must be the test, hm? Everybody's watching us to see if we can come together to save ourselves. If we can't, then we deserve what we get.

[Limor Wolf]

Hello Rmorgan ~

stupidity is not a characteristic attribute of people who come to this forum or anyone who likes to get to the root of anything,it is presented more in those who seek life of superficiality and walk mindlessly through their day,therefore,my friend,you or any other real truth seeker member can not be suspected with that :)

How good is the 'knowing' feeling instead of the 'believing' one..its frequency is that of a 'completeness'.

Thank you for this' think tank' option,getting out of the 'radar system' is not an easy task.as everyone else,I am thinking about it many times,and I find that getting off this system,departing from our banks account ,individually growing our own food,etc. is almost not possible,considering it is not suitable for everyone.we need to PLAY OUR OWN RULE within the range of the radar.
Wich,to me means,that the best thing to do is to UNCOVER this systems omissions to its bitter bottom pit,and let people decide what will be next.as you said,we are all responsible for that mess,we need to clean our acts,how can we do it practicly?
we learn the details,we come to conclusions,we walk our talk,we help others to get the details,they come to conclusions,they walk their talk,they help others to get the details...

There are also rays of sunshine in all this 'story',first you and other like mindeds are willing and holding such a strong wish to improve things,we should NEVER underestimate the power of will,second,there are many good people that DO help and assist the children of Africa,I know a couple of medical doctors that are going to give help and assist with operations,and give health care.
we have plenty of good in our planet. Good shall prevail.

I support you,soul friend,with your suggestions.I have dropprd all animals product from my diet last month(and surprisingly I have overcomed my Insomnia of the last seven years! how weired it is to actually sleep! : ),I am not owning a car,or a mobile.but there are many many things that I can improve in order to be more considerate to my environment,because,after all,this is what counts,this is what bring the change. From whithin.

Many thanks for this thread Rmorgan,per your words,I doubt that anyone will consider you stupid,or that any of us will think that you are an 'over skeptic,but you do understand that you have six fingers,yes? :p , well ,I guess thats attesting to more options in life,and a lot more ways to look at things.I hope there will be some more inspiring suggestions in here.


The very best

~*&^~*&

Limor

[alienHunter]

well, I'll certainly do my part. I'm going to start by not paying taxes.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I´m a skeptic indeed, but a skeptic with a very open mind.

That's the only genuine kind of sceptic. It's a shame there aren't more like you in the world.

[RMorgan]

Great points, Raf. I guess that must be the test, hm? Everybody's watching us to see if we can come together to save ourselves. If we can't, then we deserve what we get.

I guess you´re right. We had many chances to change things along history; The most recent was the 60´s revolution. However, somehow, we always managed to waste them.

By now, we all should now that concentrated leadership doesn´t work. It´s very unlikely that any representative state will in fact represent the will of the people...But we got used to it, and got lost within it... It´s always the same thing, we vote and forget, and everything keep happening over and over again. Still, we have hope that another leader will change things, but it wont happen.

In fact, this is a very lazy posture. We vote on someone to solve our problems and then we keep living our selfish lives. This will never work.

If we, the people, don´t start acting now, I´m afraid our situation wont be reversible in the future. We must act now, making our own choices.

By carefully choosing what we consume, we could send them a message...I think it´s the only way.

Just look at the OWS protesters...They are protesting, but they´re all wearing nike shoes, levis jackets, guess jeans, eating mcdonalds, drinking coke, using their visa cards, riding their cars, etc...How incoherent is that? What kind of protest is that? Will it work that way? No, it wont.

Even if a alien race come down right now and fixed things for us, babysitting us, I can picture ourselves in the near future, complaining about the same problems, but instead of blaming our governments, we will be blaming the aliens.

If we don´t fix ourselves first and get things right, nothing else will work.

Personally, I don´t need anyone to babysit me. Nor alien nor the human government. I´m an adult. I can manage my own problems. I assume responsibility over my actions.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Lisab]

And the great thing about inviting a fellow Avalonian into your home, is they'd forgive the mess!!!

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Raf some excellent points far to much to answer in one go, so I'l just acknowledge the spirit of the thread for now....Cheers Steve

[Mark]

If we, the people, don´t start acting now, I´m afraid our situation wont be reversible in the future. We must act now, making our own choices.

Agreed on all points. In addition, if we don't act now, we won't have a future. The great majority of us, at least. I, for one, find it impossible to ignore the many, many prophecies that speak of this time. From all the different cultures, they say many things that are different, but there are some things that are common. They speak of the trials and the tribulations of the people and the world, but they also state that those who control do not win. I wonder if the details are as important as those few general statements that they all hold in common.

Is it enough to give us a sense of assurance? Does it mean that we can be certain that we will indeed rise up together? That it is inevitable? Is that the attitude we need to take forward into the future, beyond religion? A faith and confidence in humanity?

Hm. I wonder if that Past shows any example where people have gone against the odds and stood up for themselves and won, when their backs were pushed against the wall. If people have overthrown the ruling minority and changed the system for the betterment of the whole rather than just the few.

Maybe the answer is not in all of the movements out there on the Internet who want you to join their mailing list. Maybe it's like you say, it's in each one of us. The choice we make of non-participation. And then what follows?

Something amazing, I bet. :)

[Cjay]

Hi Raf. Great thread - I love it! I share your gratitude for the creators and members of Project Avalon. This is my new extended family, my library of truth, my school.

I feel I know you, Raf and many other kindred spirits here. I really love the direction you want to move in. I share your passion for change. I'm with you, brother.

I would like to invite you and other like-minded people to get actively involved in two threads I have been contributing to. The knowledge being shared in these threads will help you to achieve independence from the cabal's system of destrucion, consumption and slavery. You will also notice a strong connection to your homeland, Brazil (in the first link, and others).

Just have a quick browse to start with. There is a lot of very practical information to absorb, so it's best to take it slowly.

And to everyone who reads this, let's build on the rapidly growing movement of truth-loving, peace-loving, freedom-loving and nature-loving people who are already applying these methods with outstanding results. Let's turn this into a tsunami of positive change that sweeps across the whole world.

Gardening,organics,sustainable gardening,food crops,etc:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2050-Gardening-organics-sustainable-gardening-food-crops-etc&p=187057&viewfull=1#post187057

Food Foresting:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21565-Food-Foresting


Love to all,
John

[Limor Wolf]

Hm. I wonder if that Past shows any example where people have gone against the odds and stood up for themselves and won, when their backs were pushed against the wall.





http://sites.google.com/site/aplanguagecusd/student-of-the-month/johndoe/rosa-parks-slide-1.jpg

The honorary Rosa Parks comes to mind..

[Mark]

The honorary Rosa Parks comes to mind..

True ... to an extent. Rosa's battle is not over, unfortunately. It continues. Now, things have changed a bit, as more people have figured out that the system that created white supremacy in order to maintain a divide and conquer strategy and pyramidal structure of suppression and domination never really thought they were worth anything either. Just used them to keep black folks and other minorities down. But the Elite broke the racial compact in recent years, betrayed the white middle class and the truth is now available to all who can't help but see it in their lost jobs, lost opportunities, lost homes, lost savings and lost hope.

Now, non-participation, as Rosa and others practiced, as Ghandi and others practiced before Rosa, is a valid strategy, but only one in what should be an arsenal of them. Coming together now despite differences is the only way forward, as the truth has been revealed and humanity as a family must be recognized as a primary reality as opposed to class, or race, or ethnicity.

[ViralSpiral]

♥ Ubuntu ♥: "I am what I am because of who we all are." An Africa humanist philosophy.

This space allows that, and as strong as your conviction Raf, a butterfly creates its effect!
Thank you for your perceptivity, participation and passion!!

[seko]

Hi Raf,

We are making these kind of things happen as we speak.

Little by little we'll get there.

I work for myself, no more companies, no more bosses.

I work close to home, don't need my car and I focus on the local market. My community.

We are walking the talking. Many will follow.

Fantastic thread, lets keep on working on ourselves.

[buckminster fuller]

Hm. I wonder if that Past shows any example where people have gone against the odds and stood up for themselves and won, when their backs were pushed against the wall. If people have overthrown the ruling minority and changed the system for the betterment of the whole rather than just the few.

I think it has remained a standard for a very long time. Although tribe systems imply some kind of clannishness, facing everyday challenges such as gathering food, hunting, building huts mean that a strong sense of community has been the drive for thousands of years.
In other words, the greater good was focused on getting each individual set in the society he belonged to, when today, it's the idea of sacrificing individuals for the greater good that is the norm. And it is rooted deeply, disconnection from one another being the source. The "I am what I am"... (edit : that is the one from 'reebook')



Maybe the answer is not in all of the movements out there on the Internet who want you to join their mailing list. Maybe it's like you say, it's in each one of us. The choice we make of non-participation. And then what follows?

Something amazing, I bet. :)

Non-participation can be a tool, but I think that setting examples, trying alternatives at small scales can also be part of the solution.
Let us display our creativity and talents, the potential is HUGE, and yes, something amazing could come out of this if we truly put our respective willingness at work.

[Limor Wolf]

the truth is now available to all who can't help but see it in their lost jobs, lost opportunities, lost homes, lost savings and lost hope.

Coming together now despite differences is the only way forward, as the truth has been revealed and humanity as a family must be recognized as a primary reality as opposed to class, or race, or ethnicity.

My judgment self is surfacing now,and I keep thinking: How can we ever bought these discriminating idea's in the first place? is the 'truth' of equality really needs to 'come out'? (in ither words,isn't it obvious..?)

No need to answer to that,as I know that our nature is so that we are sometimes readily willing to adopt to idea's that has no common sense whatsoever,- as wars(:confused:)

I echo your stance Rahkyt,that we need to come together now,inspite of all differences,and I will add that we better do some self-examination that will lead us to even greater knowledge in the conclusion that separation is not apealing anymore,not in our own world,and definitely not beyond it.

[RMorgan]

Hi Raf. Great thread - I love it! I share your gratitude for the creators and members of Project Avalon. This is my new extended family, my library of truth, my school.

I feel I know you, Raf and many other kindred spirits here. I really love the direction you want to move in. I share your passion for change. I'm with you, brother.

I would like to invite you and other like-minded people to get actively involved in two threads I have been contributing to. The knowledge being shared in these threads will help you to achieve independence from the cabal's system of destrucion, consumption and slavery. You will also notice a strong connection to your homeland, Brazil (in the first link, and others).

Just have a quick browse to start with. There is a lot of very practical information to absorb, so it's best to take it slowly.

And to everyone who reads this, let's build on the rapidly growing movement of truth-loving, peace-loving, freedom-loving and nature-loving people who are already applying these methods with outstanding results. Let's turn this into a tsunami of positive change that sweeps across the whole world.

Gardening,organics,sustainable gardening,food crops,etc:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2050-Gardening-organics-sustainable-gardening-food-crops-etc&p=187057&viewfull=1#post187057

Food Foresting:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21565-Food-Foresting


Love to all,
John

Thanks CJ!

These threads are really valuable indeed. I´ve been watching them for some time.

Some people think it´s pretty hard to live without the conveniences of our contemporary lifestyle and indeed, considering our current model of society, it´s not easy indeed.

However, we all know this model isn´t working and it will never work.

Just imagine, for instance, if the people from your street started to dedicate themselves to grow fruits. Then, the people from the next block, would grow vegetables. Then the other street will be responsible for cleaning and repairing the houses. The other street will manage bio-digestive energy generators using everyone´s waste as energy source...An so on. It isn´t hard to imagine it, right?

I can tell you, with 100% of conviction, that this is the way we were supposed to live. A cooperative system.

Just take the model of indigenous people lifestyle, and apply our current knowledge and technology to it.

We are, by design, cooperative beings. We´re not lonely wolves. The PTB really know that, and all this distraction game is built to take us further from our natural essences.

The PTB are truly smart, so they´ve manage to control us by introducing themselves in the middle of every possible human collective interaction.

Need money? Go to the bank ( actually your neighbor is probably the one who lending you money trough the bank system).

Need to buy food? Go to the supermarket ( the supermarket buy the food from people like you and sell it to you, preventing you from interacting with the original producers).

Need to socialize? Go to the internet ( again, they stand against you and your friends, preventing you from interacting with them).

Need water? Pay for the service ( they´ve managed to pollute all the rivers, in order to prevent you from interacting with the environment).

Need to buy anything else? You need the money they print ( when you exchange money, you´re actually changing your work for other person´s work).

Got it? The absolute key to human race survival is to recover our collectivism.

Along the whole modern history, THEY have manage to do anything in order to create the artificial sense that individualism is a good thing that should be protected at all costs. Of course, THEY are the ones in charge of "preserving" our individualism.

There are more than 50 indigenous languages only in Brazil. I wonder why, none of them has words like "I", "ME", "MYSELF", "YOU", "THEM" in their vocabulary? Could you imagine how it would be living in a society without the existence of "I"? Could you even imagine that?

Could you picture yourself living in a society that naturally evolved to a point, without the intervention of any artificially created system, where there´s no difference between your son and your neighbor´s son? Where you love both equally? Where everybody take care of each other like they take care of themselves?

The PTP can imagine that. That´s what they are trying to make us forget during the course of history. Got it? Everything else is a distraction. They know that, the secret of the human race, is that we´re the only beings that can live in a complete harmonious collective state, where we all become a single being, we all become GOD.

This is, in fact, what most people call ascension. Ascension will take place when we all look at each other, crying, perceiving that there´s no actually a single selfish "Self". I am you, you are myself. We´re all ONE. When we manage to get to this state, we probably will be one of the most powerful forces on the whole universe. There will be only the planet Earth, living as a single completely balanced organism.

The indigenous people from all over the world knew that. However, they still had conflict with rival tribes, and engaged into wars. If the European model of civilization had not destroyed them, I think they would be able to work around these conflicts and simply evolve their beautiful model of civilization into a worldwide scale model. By now, the world would be such a beautiful place.

The so called "elite" knew that since the beginning. The main reason they control us with fear, is because they are the fear. They are so afraid to lose their stupid notion of individuality, and to discontinue their such beloved family concentrated power, that they worked pretty hard to make us forget our origins, making everyone in the world transform into crippled version of themselves.

Some say we are created in the image of the creator. We WERE created in the image of the creator. However, the elite, satan, tptb or whatever you want to call them, have been working hard to replace the original creator´s image, with the distorted image of themselves. They believe they are GOD, but they are not. They are just like little spoiled boys, who, trying be be just like their father, realize they can´t, and then decide to revolt against him.

We need to take our souls back. We can´t let anyone suppress our true nature anymore. They have worked to make us forget our true natural knowledge and power and actually, we can´t barely remember who we are really supposed to be.

However, if we look deep, deep inside/outside/everywhere, we can´t still see something. We can see something is wrong. Something is missing.

You know, they have managed to cover up every single historical and scientific discovery that could make us find this missing link. They know that a single dot, can make us suddenly realize the big picture, and then, we all would wake up like an atomic bomb. That´s why they are afraid. They live in constant fear.

They are not fighting for power, they are not fighting for money, for land nor for resources. They are fighting against the extinction, the dissolution of their bloodline, their race.

We must fight. Now. They are losing control. We are close to a point were there´s no turning back. If we lose this one, we lose forever.

It´s our fight. No one is coming down to save us, to fight this battle for us. If we keep waiting and dreaming about god like beings coming to save us, we can consider the battle is already lost.

Cheers,

Raf. ;)

[RMorgan]

I echo your stance Rahkyt,that we need to come together now,inspite of all differences,and I will add that we better do some self-examination that will lead us to even greater knowledge in the conclusion that separation is not apealing anymore,not in our own world,and definitely not beyond it.

Exactly Limor. That´s what I´m talking about. Separation was created artificially, well, to keep us away from our true collective nature.

Cheers,

Raf.

[The One]

Hi Raf. Great thread - I love it! I share your gratitude for the creators and members of Project Avalon. This is my new extended family, my library of truth, my school.

I feel I know you, Raf and many other kindred spirits here. I really love the direction you want to move in. I share your passion for change. I'm with you, brother.

I would like to invite you and other like-minded people to get actively involved in two threads I have been contributing to. The knowledge being shared in these threads will help you to achieve independence from the cabal's system of destrucion, consumption and slavery. You will also notice a strong connection to your homeland, Brazil (in the first link, and others).

Just have a quick browse to start with. There is a lot of very practical information to absorb, so it's best to take it slowly.

And to everyone who reads this, let's build on the rapidly growing movement of truth-loving, peace-loving, freedom-loving and nature-loving people who are already applying these methods with outstanding results. Let's turn this into a tsunami of positive change that sweeps across the whole world.

Gardening,organics,sustainable gardening,food crops,etc:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2050-Gardening-organics-sustainable-gardening-food-crops-etc&p=187057&viewfull=1#post187057

Food Foresting:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21565-Food-Foresting


Love to all,
John

Thanks CJ!

These threads are really valuable indeed. I´ve been watching them for some time.

Some people think it´s pretty hard to live without the conveniences of our contemporary lifestyle and indeed, considering our current model of society, it´s not easy indeed.

However, we all know this model isn´t working and it will never work.

Just imagine, for instance, if the people from your street started to dedicate themselves to grow fruits. Then, the people from the next block, would grow vegetables. Then the other street will be responsible for cleaning and repairing the houses. The other street will manage bio-digestive energy generators using everyone´s waste as energy source...An so on. It isn´t hard to imagine it, right?

I can tell you, with 100% of conviction, that this is the way we were supposed to live. A cooperative system.

Just take the model of indigenous people lifestyle, and apply our current knowledge and technology to it.

We are, by design, cooperative beings. We´re not lonely wolves. The PTB really know that, and all this distraction game is built to take us further from our natural essences.

The PTB are truly smart, so they´ve manage to control us by introducing themselves in the middle of every possible human collective interaction.

Need money? Go to the bank ( actually your neighbor is probably the one who lending you money trough the bank system).

Need to buy food? Go to the supermarket ( the supermarket buy the food from people like you and sell it to you, preventing you from interacting with the original producers).

Need to socialize? Go to the internet ( again, they stand against you and your friends, preventing you from interacting with them).

Need water? Pay for the service ( they´ve managed to pollute all the rivers, in order to prevent you from interacting with the environment).

Need to buy anything else? You need the money they print ( when you exchange money, you´re actually changing your work for other person´s work).

Got it? The absolute key to human race survival is to recover our collectivism.

Along the whole modern history, THEY have manage to do anything in order to create the artificial sense that individualism is a good thing that should be protected at all costs. Of course, THEY are the ones in charge of "preserving" our individualism.

There are more than 50 indigenous languages only in Brazil. I wonder why, none of them has words like "I", "ME", "MYSELF", "YOU", "THEM" in their vocabulary? Could you imagine how it would be living in a society without the existence of "I"? Could you even imagine that?

Could you picture yourself living in a society that naturally evolved to a point, without the intervention of any artificially created system, where there´s no difference between your son and your neighbor´s son? Where you love both equally? Where everybody take care of each other like they take care of themselves?

The PTP can imagine that. That´s what they are trying to make us forget during the course of history. Got it? Everything else is a distraction. They know that, the secret of the human race, is that we´re the only beings that can live in a complete harmonious collective state, where we all become a single being, we all become GOD.

This is, in fact, what most people call ascension. Ascension will take place when we all look at each other, crying, perceiving that there´s no actually a single selfish "Self". I am you, you are myself. We´re all ONE. When we manage to get to this state, we probably will be one of the most powerful forces on the whole universe. There will be only the planet Earth, living as a single completely balanced organism.

The indigenous people from all over the world knew that. However, they still had conflict with rival tribes, and engaged into wars. If the European model of civilization had not destroyed them, I think they would be able to work around these conflicts and simply evolve their beautiful model of civilization into a worldwide scale model. By now, the world would be such a beautiful place.

The so called "elite" knew that since the beginning. The main reason they control us with fear, is because they are the fear. They are so afraid to lose their stupid notion of individuality, and to discontinue their such beloved family concentrated power, that they worked pretty hard to make us forget our origins, making everyone in the world transform into crippled version of themselves.

Some say we are created in the image of the creator. We WERE created in the image of the creator. However, the elite, satan, tptb or whatever you want to call them, have been working hard to replace the original creator´s image, with the distorted image of themselves. They believe they are GOD, but they are not. They are just like little spoiled boys, who, trying be be just like their father, realize they can´t, and then decide to revolt against him.

We need to take our souls back. We can´t let anyone suppress our true nature anymore. They have worked to make us forget our true natural knowledge and power and actually, we can´t barely remember who we are really supposed to be.

However, if we look deep, deep inside/outside/everywhere, we can´t still see something. We can see something is wrong. Something is missing.

You know, they have managed to cover up every single historical and scientific discovery that could make us find this missing link. They know that a single dot, can make us suddenly realize the big picture, and then, we all would wake up like an atomic bomb. That´s why they are afraid. They live in constant fear.

They are not fighting for power, they are not fighting for money, for land nor for resources. They are fighting against the extinction, the dissolution of their bloodline, their race.

We must fight. Now. They are losing control. We are close to a point were there´s no turning back. If we lose this one, we lose forever.

It´s our fight. No one is coming down to save us, to fight this battle for us. If we keep waiting and dreaming about god like beings coming to save us, we can consider the battle is already lost.

Cheers,

Raf. ;)

Simply brilliant Raf agreed 100% my friend.We are the change

[crested-duck]

I agree with this thread absolutely!! A sidenote to alienhunter: we still have to play by the rules of this awful game till they do'nt exist anymore nomatter how much we despise them. They will definately hunt you down for not paying taxes.

[eric charles]

I agree with this thread absolutely!! A sidenote to alienhunter: we still have to play by the rules of this awful game till they do'nt exist anymore nomatter how much we despise them. They will definately hunt you down for not paying taxes.

No kidding hehehehe , Although i have stopped paying for drivers licensing and all that crap !!

[eric charles]

Just one thing unfortunetly i must keep paying and that is my Firearms and Restricted Firearms licenses , otherwise i will have Club SWAT at my door taking me down

[ktlight]

I agree with this thread absolutely!! A sidenote to alienhunter: we still have to play by the rules of this awful game till they do'nt exist anymore nomatter how much we despise them. They will definately hunt you down for not paying taxes.

They are cutting back of employment. Do you think there will be enough IRS workers to oversee each submission, let alone keep tabs on non-submitters? And, what if there were so many non-submitters that they would be utterly inundated?

[Mark]

I think it has remained a standard for a very long time. Although tribe systems imply some kind of clannishness, facing everyday challenges such as gathering food, hunting, building huts mean that a strong sense of community has been the drive for thousands of years.

In other words, the greater good was focused on getting each individual set in the society he belonged to, when today, it's the idea of sacrificing individuals for the greater good that is the norm. And it is rooted deeply, disconnection from one another being the source. The "I am what I am"... (edit : that is the one from 'reebook')

i think you make a good point here, Sir. i suppose right now, where we are materially is the same as where we are spiritually. people want to waste time defining things and looking for origins. Those of us outside of the monotheistic systems look to past lives for karmic issues when which lifetime you did what exactly to result in your life now makes absolutely no difference. You just have to deal with it its effects in your current situation before you can move on. Similarly, there are many causes to where we are now as a world and we just have to deal with it.

to educate the world on all the ins and outs in order to get everybody to understand why they need to rise up would take absolutely too long at this point. just look around.


Non-participation can be a tool, but I think that setting examples, trying alternatives at small scales can also be part of the solution.
Let us display our creativity and talents, the potential is HUGE, and yes, something amazing could come out of this if we truly put our respective willingness at work.

AFTER we take out the PTW. They're like ticks on a dog's butt. Dug in real good, suckin' out the blood of the earth. Whatever comes next cannot be like what we are in now. We cannot exchange one set of rulers for another.


I echo your stance Rahkyt,that we need to come together now,inspite of all differences,and I will add that we better do some self-examination that will lead us to even greater knowledge in the conclusion that separation is not apealing anymore,not in our own world,and definitely not beyond it.

yes ma'am ... if we don't, we won't move forward, we will move backwards again and repeat the cycle. Violence, domination, more violence, more domination. time for humanity to grow up if we think we deserve the stars.