That's no moon. It's a space station.. [Obi-wan]

[hangel]

I spend some time thinking of this phrase.. It has an intriguing mean. The more i think of it im becoming more convinced that it isnt a random phrase of dialogue from star wars. I think its there in plain view so those who have open eyes can see.
After my countless study of ancient history im getting more and more convinced that the moon is not there so we can have some light at night. Its there to control fertility of our mother Earth and control us too..
Moon is much older than the Earth and i've heard that some ancient people described time when there was no moon...(i dont remember the reference to that). So the moon was brought here.
Other thing that i 'discovered' from star wars - to my amusement - is Tatooine's two stars as a source of daylight (one lighter and one darker). More examples can be noticed.
And recently I watched 'Madagascar' with my few year old son. This is a cartoon movie for kids. But parents have your eyes open, some of stuff there is mind blowing. For example: there is a scene where 'local tribe of lemurs' are in the old plane discussing what to do with newly arrived zoo animals… They show book titled 'to serve lemur'... This blow my mind as i remember Jordan Maxwell saying something about the book titled: 'to serve human'. Anyway the whole movie has a message for adults and the concept of the movie is a bit 'weird'.

Keep your eyes and ears open when you watch kid’s movies.


Did you notice something like that in movies?

[John Parslow]

Hello Hangel

Found this with a quick Google search:

The Moon Matrix as a control system

David Icke is putting forward the idea that the Reptilian beings that he claims have ruled this world have been doing so using the Moon which they placed in orbit here many thousands of years about to bring an end to everything that had gone before.

It brought about great destruction and changes on the Earth and gave these beings the chance to take over here as hidden controllers and parasites of the human race. Icke has talked before about how the movie The Matrix provides a pretty accurate depiction of how the world actually is and how we are living in a constructed illusion. He has now taken this one big step further to suggest that the matrix is being run from and using the Moon.

He talks about the reptilian part of the brain. How it functions and what it is used for, and also how it can be stimulated to react. We all have a reptilian part of our brains.

David Icke explains his conclusions and how he came upon these ideas in a new and excellent interview he gave to Bill Ryan of Project Camelot and Project Avalon, and in depth in his new book Human Race Get Off Your Knees The Lion Sleeps No More .

All the best to you. JP :cool:

[Mutchie]

john lear is firmly convinced that the moon is populated and that its the best kept secret going about ....his site the living moon.com shows all kinds of nasa pictures in which we can identify roads , buildings , pyramids , statues , a space sport and bridges the list goes on and on and who is to say its not the reptilians who built all that oh and you should read up on the soul catcher aswell

[VaughnB]

john lear is firmly convinced that the moon is populated and that its the best kept secret going about ....his site the living moon.com shows all kinds of nasa pictures in which we can identify roads , buildings , pyramids , statues , a space sport and bridges the list goes on and on and who is to say its not the reptilians who built all that oh and you should read up on the soul catcher aswell

I looked at some of the images, the ones Bob Lazar downloaded for him. I couldn't make out anything at all. I've seen some discrediting things about Bob Lazar, his ID, some of the papers W2 forms were forgeries with date inaccuracies, there's so much disinformation these days.

Now I do give some weight to D. Icke's suppositions about the composition, size, weight of our Moon is way out of norm for satellite bodies. The resonate frequency when soundings are made, and some other points. You'd think if vehicles were coming and going some earth observers would have noticed by now, I mean we must of 10,000+ trained and 100's of thousands of amateur astronomers that could identify, track and photo some activity.

[hangel]

Something weird happened to me some few months ago.. and this is another confirmation to our ideas of the moon.
I ordered a book on amazon (the UK one). It was - as far as i recall - limitless mind by R Targ. In fact before i ordered that book i was looking for a different book on similar subject - Penetration by Ingo Swann. Penetration goes for nearly £400 in the UK. Eh, i thought, impossible for me so i went for Limitless Mind. OK, im absolutely aware thats not the same..
When the book (Limitless Mind) turned up by post the parcel included a stack of A4 papers with photocopy of... Penetration! OK.. i know what you think - copyright and the intellectual property issues etc. Im a scientist im aware of those things... but i was so happy to lay my hands on that text by Ingo Swann. I wish his soul all the best and im sorry that there is no new reprint of his book. But here and now is more important that these things go out to the wider public - that is objective for the sake of us all (as time may be short to learn these things).
Now, for those who didnt read Penetration - please do not expect to learn techniques from that book, this is a book to tell you story about the moon, and few other things. I personally found there yet another clue for what 'the moon' is up to. Also I learned that 'journeys' may be dangerous.

[KosmicKat]

They show book titled 'to serve lemur'... This blow my mind as i remember Jordan Maxwell saying something about the book titled: 'to serve human'.

I can't say anything about the Jordan Maxwell connection but there was an episode of "The Twilight Zone" titled "To Serve Man".

As for Star Wars, there is something very fishy about the similarities between Saturn's moon, Iapetus and the Death Star, and I for one would be interested to know how Iapetus came by its peculiar features.

[Silo]

Wasn't to serve man about how to cook and eat him?

[Cartomancer]

When Obi-Wan was saying that was he speaking in Jedi doublespeak? Maybe he was trying to make you think it wasn't a moon when it was? or not? The latest conspiracy theory. "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

[sunflower]

Hi Hangel, Ingo Swann's "Penetration" can be found online as a pdf file. Google it or go to scribd.com.

His website contains a wealth of information which you might also enjoy. http://biomindsuperpowers.com/

[Ellisa]

The story 'To Serve Man' is a short SF story which was published about 1980-ish. I can't remember the author. It was a sort of parody, and meant to have a funny twist. As far as I can recollect it was about aliens who came to Earth and were amazingly helpful to everyone. Then the earthly inhabitants found the book of the aliens called 'How to serve Man' was not a book about being helpful to Earth's people as had been originally thought but was in fact a cook-book. It is actually a very funny story, but not without a touch of horror! I didn't know there had been a Twilight Zone episode of it.

I agree with VB. Surely with all the scrutiny of the moon now, a base or rockets would be seen. However a base much earlier in our history--- possibly!

[hangel]

Wasn't to serve man about how to cook and eat him?

Yes, thats the one. the 'madagascar' occupants were lemurs, it was clear reference to the book 'to serve men'.

[hangel]

Hi Hangel, Ingo Swann's "Penetration" can be found online as a pdf file. Google it or go to scribd.com.

His website contains a wealth of information which you might also enjoy. http://biomindsuperpowers.com/

I didnt know that book is online. Thanks for the link. I looked through this stuff with genuine amusement and wondered how long for that will be there until someone remove that web.. But maybe we ARE living in better world already.. a several years ago it would be unthinkable.

[ghostrider]

funny the moon is just the right size to block the sun when the earth sun and moon are in a straight lline. it had to be placed by someone in just the right spot....

[East Sun]

Hollywood movies, sci. fi. stories and now children's books are ways for the required process "they" have to follow, to be put out there in the open..... and to confuse us so we can't tell fact from fiction.

[Pete]

there are a number of films where the moon features and I think the most striking is "The Truman show" the whole premise is that he lives a completely controlled existence and the control center is the moon fixed in its position in the false sky. I particularly like the moment of disclosure as his boat hits the limits of their control. If you haven't watched it there is a definite sub text if you are awoken.

I think you may well be interested in the following thread as well.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31706-White-Buildings-On-Moon-False-Back-Of-Moon--NASA-Photos&highlight=white+buildings+moon

[Kristin]

Our moon is an intrinsic part of our planets system to promote life and growth. Moths and other insects use the moon for mating, the tides are caused by the moon which keeps a healthy mix of life in our ocean, and I may also note that most women have a reproductive cycle that is based on the moons. If the moon was placed here, I think it was for a reason of biological growth. It may indeed have a duel purpose. However, life as we know it would end without it.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

Oh, and here's the vid from one of the best movies ever made...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVekNsgUqn4

[Mark]

And recently I watched 'Madagascar' with my few year old son. This is a cartoon movie for kids. But parents have your eyes open, some of stuff there is mind blowing. For example: there is a scene where 'local tribe of lemurs' are in the old plane discussing what to do with newly arrived zoo animals… They show book titled 'to serve lemur'... This blow my mind as i remember Jordan Maxwell saying something about the book titled: 'to serve human'.

Here is where that quote comes from:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne5eP0OAsTs&feature=related
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne5eP0OAsTs&feature=related

So the Lemurs are gonna eat us, huh? LOL I remember that from that movie.

[Kristin]

LOL, but seriously... Reminds me of this whole "Harvest" thing from the Bible... ever think of it that way? I mean why divide and multiply... why encourage overpopulation?
From the Heart,
Wormhole

Sorry, I think we may be getting more then a little off topic here.

[hangel]

Hollywood movies, sci. fi. stories and now children's books are ways for the required process "they" have to follow, to be put out there in the open..... and to confuse us so we can't tell fact from fiction.

Forgive me my ignorance, but why they 'have to' ?
Is it similar to case when the wife says to husband: 'did i not tell you week ago that you going to smash this vase if you put it that way?, but you never listen to me.. '

[John Parslow]

Hello all

I know I am slightly thinking outside the box here but has anyone else considered what shape the moon really is? We imagine that it is sperical but apart from the NASA guys none of us really knows. There could be a box; a pyramid; or any other shape on the side we never see - perhaps even a tow rope ... just food for thought ... JP :cool:

[Jenci]

Hollywood movies, sci. fi. stories and now children's books are ways for the required process "they" have to follow, to be put out there in the open..... and to confuse us so we can't tell fact from fiction.


I agree and would add there is probably an element of them laughing at us for not getting it and feeding off the energy of the people going to the movies to watch their symbolism.
Jeanette

[Jenci]

Our moon is an intrinsic part of our planets system to promote life and growth. Moths and other insects use the moon for mating, the tides are caused by the moon which keeps a healthy mix of life in our ocean, and I may also note that most women have a reproductive cycle that is based on the moons. If the moon was placed here, I think it was for a reason of biological growth. It may indeed have a duel purpose. However, life as we know it would end without it.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

Oh, and here's the vid from one of the best movies ever made...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVekNsgUqn4


Hi WH
love that clip, thanks for posting.

How do we know this about the moon? I know I have been told this all my life but is there evidence to support this or is this just what has been presented?


It's been a while since I watched that Icke/Camelot interview. I am sure he talked about the cycles of the moon and how they were artificially transmitted.
Jeanette

[Jenci]

Hello all

I know I am slightly thinking outside the box here but has anyone else considered what shape the moon really is? We imagine that it is sperical but apart from the NASA guys none of us really knows. There could be a box; a pyramid; or any other shape on the side we never see - perhaps even a tow rope ... just food for thought ... JP :cool:


I think you make a really important point, John. We need to think outside the box. The lie is so big that even things that we've always thought were facts could have always been a lie.


I'm guessing it is probably a pyramid with a tow rope ;)
Jeanette

[Kristin]

Hello Jenci,
There is a great deal of information, millions of pages of academic study, that support this. I will start you off with a few links... but you need to study this yourself and make an educated decision as to wether you think the moon is necessary to our planet or not. The moon may very well be artificial, it may be hollow, it may even be zapping us with weird messages... I do not know the answer to those things but I do know that we would not be able to be here with out her...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW_vmnfTeWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acu2zs5fKoo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8fKubr1wro&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S53nLob2SoM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmdjkekAJo&feature=related

Here's a place to start you off. I do not necessarily agree with the collision theory, but the rest is interesting and highly data based.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Jenci]

Hello Jenci,
There is a great deal of information, millions of pages of academic study, that support this. I will start you off with a few links... but you need to study this yourself and make an educated decision as to wether you think the moon is necessary to our planet or not. The moon may very well be artificial, it may be hollow, it may even be zapping us with weird messages... I do not know the answer to those things but I do know that we would not be able to be here with out her...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW_vmnfTeWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acu2zs5fKoo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8fKubr1wro&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S53nLob2SoM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmdjkekAJo&feature=related

Here's a place to start you off. I do not necessarily agree with the collision theory, but the rest is interesting and highly data based.
From the Heart,
Wormhole



Thanks Wormhole, I've just spotted your reply trying to catch up with all these posts.

I shall check out those links you posted.

The full moon was out in the sky this morning and my son asked why? I didn't know the answer. Does anyone know why I can see the moon in daylight, sometimes and sometimes not?

It's amazing how I am realising how much I just took for granted without questioning.
Jeanette

[East Sun]

Hollywood movies, sci. fi. stories and now children's books are ways for the required process "they" have to follow, to be put out there in the open..... and to confuse us so we can't tell fact from fiction.

Forgive me my ignorance, but why they 'have to' ?
Is it similar to case when the wife says to husband: 'did i not tell you week ago that you going to smash this vase if you put it that way?, but you never listen to me.. '

They are into the occult in a big way as part of the "groups" who control the happenings in our world. May seem ridicules I know, but the secret societies, money mongers and one world advocates, masons etc. practice satanism that has "rules" they have to observe. Now that we know we can observe them as they use their 'no longer secret manipulation' of the 99%.

[Black Panther]

They show book titled 'to serve lemur'... This blow my mind as i remember Jordan Maxwell saying something about the book titled: 'to serve human'.

I can't say anything about the Jordan Maxwell connection but there was an episode of "The Twilight Zone" titled "To Serve Man".

As for Star Wars, there is something very fishy about the similarities between Saturn's moon, Iapetus and the Death Star, and I for one would be interested to know how Iapetus came by its peculiar features.

David Icke talks about the Moon in his latest presentation. To see in part 2 of this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36723-David-Icke-Around-The-World-As-Humanity-Awakens after 0:51:35. He also talked about Saturn and the frequencies of Saturn via the Moon to the Earth. But I can't find the part in the presentation. Some of his new findings. It's now the Saturn-Moon Matrix instead of just the Moon Matrix. But maybe that's something for another thread.



I know I am slightly thinking outside the box here
Thinking outside the box is something we have to do all the time.
Otherwise we wouldn't wake up in the first place. But taking everything
for granted isn't the way either. It's weird if you think about the Hollow Moon
or the Moon as a spaceship. But maybe we just have to rewrite our thoughts
about the Moon like everything else in the world.

[TargeT]

Hollywood movies, sci. fi. stories and now children's books are ways for the required process "they" have to follow, to be put out there in the open..... and to confuse us so we can't tell fact from fiction.

Forgive me my ignorance, but why they 'have to' ?
Is it similar to case when the wife says to husband: 'did i not tell you week ago that you going to smash this vase if you put it that way?, but you never listen to me.. '

They are into the occult in a big way as part of the "groups" who control the happenings in our world. May seem ridicules I know, but the secret societies, money mongers and one world advocates, masons etc. practice satanism that has "rules" they have to observe. Now that we know we can observe them as they use their 'no longer secret manipulation' of the 99%.


There seems to be some sort of adherance to a "non-interference" idea (possibly) but its been so warped and perverted that disclosure through movies, TV shows & other mass media outlets seems to be considered a "loop hole"

there are some excelent research efforts being made in this area:

Movies:
www.hollywoodinsiders.net

Music:
www.theindustryexposed.com

WARNING: if your a movie / music addict this may ruin your addiction :P

[East Sun]

Hollywood movies, sci. fi. stories and now children's books are ways for the required process "they" have to follow, to be put out there in the open..... and to confuse us so we can't tell fact from fiction.

Forgive me my ignorance, but why they 'have to' ?
Is it similar to case when the wife says to husband: 'did i not tell you week ago that you going to smash this vase if you put it that way?, but you never listen to me.. '

They are into the occult in a big way as part of the "groups" who control the happenings in our world. May seem ridicules I know, but the secret societies, money mongers and one world advocates, masons etc. practice satanism that has "rules" they have to observe. Now that we know we can observe them as they use their 'no longer secret manipulation' of the 99%.


There seems to be some sort of adherance to a "non-interference" idea (possibly) but its been so warped and perverted that disclosure through movies, TV shows & other mass media outlets seems to be considered a "loop hole"

there are some excelent research efforts being made in this area:

Movies:
www.hollywoodinsiders.net

Music:
www.theindustryexposed.com

WARNING: if your a movie / music addict this may ruin your addiction :P

I used to love movies but for quite a while I don't watch tv or go to movie theaters. I love playing music for my own enjoyment or non professionally. I wouldn't want a part of either industry to make a living.

Thanks for the links. I'll check them out later.