David Wilcock receives very serious death threat, after Fulford gets kidnapped

[DarMar]

DarMar

As very plutonic scorpio I suspect, however more wellinformed than David you might be, you are envious. This doesn't mean i know if DW is right or wrong, but he doesn't get the money for playing football or appearing on silly humour TV-shows. Whether he says "grab" or not he is still under a death threat remember? Please show some respect.

As a very plutonic scorpio you should learn about categoties and limits of it before putting self into it.
how can i be envious after statements i told? and on which part id be envious to, sellin vapor for truth or part that hes got broken spirit at the moment.
he does not earn playing football, yes he does it on much worster scale.
im not wellinformed and did not get info im using from any insiders but own experience. And still thats only my perspective along many perspectives on this planet which is actually funny small for comparing universes perspectives.
HE IS NOT UNDER DEATH THREAT people, he actually never heard it if you listen to interview, did you listen it??
everytime he gotta point at time he got threat he starts: "there is that guy which is my insider and he got two calls....." i was like wtf everytime i heard that.
so i never said i disrespect him, he is a living person for which i care .. IF I DIDN'T care id never post onto this section. read better my posts. I have very disrespect about his job but alot love for him as a being.


And btw. Welcome to the planet earth where actually since you stepped here you are under death threat remember?
Please show some respect ;)

[witchy1]

...... He has just said gold is almost as plentiful as sand. All estimates of the gold available has been false. This is a huge story, for sure. A lot of recounting what was on his blog posting the other day. www.deepblacklies.co.uk


Thats because they can manufacture gold.................. DUH!!!!!! This means that the current system cannot be gold backed. Its gonna have to end or change real soon

Im sure David beleives that his life is in danger - and no thats not OK. Im with Unified Serenity - it would be all over if thats what was wanted. Given hes still here, my guess is its a wind up / set up / way of getting info out there so we can play with it for a while, churn it over and spit out our best guess..... David is right, he cannot ignore the threat, but I do feel hes going to be OK.

I think this is all about getting the whole devaluing Gold thing out into the public arena so that we can look for other reasons why the "system" is about to fail when in reality is just because they can make it.

Even if you dont believe me, just give some thought to what would happen if it were true hmmmmmmm

It IS true!!!! (research Alex Putney's work and Joe Champion) It will be made public next year I understand - so we can all make it. The gov are saying its manufatured so its different than whats in the earth - however it assay's up exactly the same.!!!

PS: I read an article ages ago about the squillions amounts of gold owed by the USA to China. They sent them tungsten or lead bars with gold plating to pay the debt instead and were clearly found out. The usa refuse to re pay the gold apparently and this is the main cause of discontent between them (dont know if this relevant)

[Words of Joy]

"So we'll talk more about that after the break I guess...." :D
David was even able to let a laugh vibrate through the soundwaves at that moment. I guess he must've had recognized the absurdity of circumstances. Emotions, his life on the line, concentration to get the information out and then... a commercial break, unannounced. :D That's just classic. :D

[modwiz]

...... He has just said gold is almost as plentiful as sand. All estimates of the gold available has been false. This is a huge story, for sure. A lot of recounting what was on his blog posting the other day. www.deepblacklies.co.uk


Thats because they can manufacture gold.................. DUH!!!!!! This means that the current system cannot be gold backed. Its gonna have to end or change real soon

Im sure David beleives that his life is in danger - and no thats not OK. Im with Unified Serenity - it would be all over if thats what was wanted. Given hes still here, my guess is its a wind up / set up / way of getting info out there so we can play with it for a while, churn it over and spit out our best guess..... David is right, he cannot ignore the threat, but I do feel hes going to be OK.

I think this is all about getting the whole devaluing Gold thing out into the public arena so that we can look for other reasons why the "system" is about to fail when in reality is just because they can make it.

Even if you dont believe me, just give some thought to what would happen if it were true hmmmmmmm

It IS true!!!! (research Alex Putney's work and Joe Champion) It will be made public next year I understand - so we can all make it. The gov are saying its manufatured so its different than whats in the earth - however it assay's up exactly the same.!!!

PS: I read an article ages ago about the squillions amounts of gold owed by the USA to China. They sent them tungsten or lead bars with gold plating to pay the debt instead and were clearly found out. The usa refuse to re pay the gold apparently and this is the main cause of discontent between them (dont know if this relevant)

In the interview last night it was revealed that it was this weasel move by the Fed on China that precipitated the 2008 financial crisis. It (the crisis) was the Chinese trying to show the USA they could not get away with it. Our bank bailouts, printing and giving away trillions of free dollars to banks caught the Chinese by surprise. It has delayed the inevitable by a few years. The end for the Fed and its cronies is getting near.

[witchy1]

bout bloody time too Modwiz

[Realeyes]

What a dynamic interview!

David & Kerry, I sending blessings, love and prayers to both of you – Thank you for your courage!

I found the ‘anonymous’ speaker extremely curious. Is it just me, or did anyone else get the feeling this guy was calling from ‘off world’? ;)

Does anyone know what is meant by the 'daughter of the Pheonix? :confused:



Edited: I have posted the interview link and also the pdf out to my friends on email.

PDF download from Camelot Forum
http://46.183.168.57/camelot/The-Trillion-Dollar-Lawsuit-That-Could-End-Financial-Tyranny.pdf

or found on David's Blog
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny

[Calz]

I remember the tungsten story ... but getting all the details to help connect the dots is fun.

Still no update with "Part 2" on DW's site (now 2:45 am in that time zone).

[transiten]

DarMar

As very plutonic scorpio I suspect, however more wellinformed than David you might be, you are envious. This doesn't mean i know if DW is right or wrong, but he doesn't get the money for playing football or appearing on silly humour TV-shows. Whether he says "grab" or not he is still under a death threat remember? Please show some respect.

As a very plutonic scorpio you should learn about categoties and limits of it before putting self into it.
how can i be envious after statements i told? and on which part id be envious to, sellin vapor for truth or part that hes got broken spirit at the moment.
he does not earn playing football, yes he does it on much worster scale.
im not wellinformed and did not get info im using from any insiders but own experience. And still thats only my perspective along many perspectives on this planet which is actually funny small for comparing universes perspectives.
HE IS NOT UNDER DEATH THREAT people, he actually never heard it if you listen to interview, did you listen it??
everytime he gotta point at time he got threat he starts: "there is that guy which is my insider and he got two calls....." i was like wtf everytime i heard that.
so i never said i disrespect him, he is a living person for which i care .. IF I DIDN'T care id never post onto this section. read better my posts. I have very disrespect about his job but alot love for him as a being.


And btw. Welcome to the planet earth where actually since you stepped here you are under death threat remember?
Please show some respect ;)

Whether he is under a death threat or not, HE THINKS AND FEELS AND EXPERIENCES it to be that way! You can voice your ideas and concerns in amore (that was unintentional-amore=love) sensitive and objecitve way, which i haven't done myself maybe since i'm not perfect, David is not perfect and you are not perfect.

Experiencing "holy wrath" here, maybe not being the most loving person myself. Thankyou for the catalyst!

[araucaria]

Wow! A neat little Russian doll scenario we have here. The scandal of fiat money fits nicely into the scandal of fake fiat money actually backed by all that gold which fits nicely into the situation of so much gold that it is no collateral anyway.

Segue to Wade Frazier's free energy threads against the economy of scarcity :)

[jackovesk]

Just listening to the Interview now...


Anonymous Irishman Quote: "Don't you worry David, where the sort of folk that don't follow you after the 'Heart Attack' when you've died son, we'll be there on the other side to bother you again..!"
:clap2:



I wish the 'Anonymous Irishman' was a friend of mine..!

OK Jack, here I am still following the scary info, train is leaving tomorrow....I don't understand your wordings english not being my native language...is this sarcastic or not?

Hi transiten,

No I wasn't being sarcastic....

Here is my complete post after I listened to the enitre interview...


Just listening to the Interview now...



Anonymous Irishman Quote: "Don't you worry David, where the sort of folk that don't follow you after the 'Heart Attack' when you've died son, we'll be there on the other side to bother you again..!"

"Understand our only concern is for the 'Protection' of the Human Society as a whole. There is No distinction between Courtry's, Race or Color, the Human Race and the Genome is All..!"

Ending with this Statement - "As long as your telling the 'TRUTH' David, you have nothing to worry about from us..."
:clap2:



I wish the 'Anonymous Irishman' was a friend of mine..!

PS - Finally finished listening the whole interview...

For your sake David, I hope your telling the 'TRUTH'..! Because personally I would be more worried about the Anonymous Irishman, than the initial Threat maker if your not..!

[transiten]

Just listening to the Interview now...


Anonymous Irishman Quote: "Don't you worry David, where the sort of folk that don't follow you after the 'Heart Attack' when you've died son, we'll be there on the other side to bother you again..!"
:clap2:



I wish the 'Anonymous Irishman' was a friend of mine..!

OK Jack, here I am still following the scary info, train is leaving tomorrow....I don't understand your wordings english not being my native language...is this sarcastic or not?

Hi transiten,

No I wasn't being sarcastic....

Here is my complete post after I listened to the enitre interview...


Just listening to the Interview now...



Anonymous Irishman Quote: "Don't you worry David, where the sort of folk that don't follow you after the 'Heart Attack' when you've died son, we'll be there on the other side to bother you again..!"

"Understand our only concern is for the 'Protection' of the Human Society as a whole. There is No distinction between Courtry's, Race or Color, the Human Race and the Genome is All..!"

Ending with this Statement - "As long as your telling the 'TRUTH' David, you have nothing to worry about from us..."
:clap2:



I wish the 'Anonymous Irishman' was a friend of mine..!

PS - Finally finished listening the whole interview...

For you sake David, I hope your telling the 'TRUTH'..! Because personally I would be more worried about the Anonymous Irishman moreso, than the initial Threat maker if your not..!

Thanks, just read it seconds ago, my pluto is overdoing himself.....

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well I woke up this morning fully refreshed...and now I have a frigging headache!!

Listening very carfully to the 'Irish Fellow' ...and his comments ...it sounds to me as though this chap is of 'cosmic origin' ... I know its bloody weird ...BUT ...

quote ...

torchering lives for thousands of generations...do you understand the depths of what we are talking about...this phone call is coming so far beyond the never never you could never appreciate it...

Perhaps we are about to witness the re-set button ... and much MUCH more... EXCITING TIMES!

viking

[Ultima Thule]

I´m struggling with my understanding of spoken english, can anyone of you natives distinguish exactly what Anonymous is saying, beginning at about 1.11:44? Thank you in advance!
UT

[modwiz]

Well I woke up this morning fully refreshed...and now I have a frigging headache!!

Listening very carfully to the 'Irish Fellow' ...and his comments ...it sounds to me as though this chap is of 'cosmic origin' ... I know its bloody weird ...BUT ...

quote ...

torchering lives for thousands of generations...do you understand the depths of what we are talking about...this phone call is coming so far beyond the never never you could never appreciate it...

Perhaps we are about to witness the re-set button ... and much MUCH more... EXICTING TIMES!

viking

That and a few other things Anon said made me feel a little closer to the causal planes. I did not wish to interject that part, but judging by the effect many have spoken about him having on them, there was/is something very 'different' about the gentleman.

Since I was doing my best to write while listening, it does behoove me to download a copy of that interview and give it my full attention.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well I woke up this morning fully refreshed...and now I have a frigging headache!!

Listening very carfully to the 'Irish Fellow' ...and his comments ...it sounds to me as though this chap is of 'cosmic origin' ... I know its bloody weird ...BUT ...

quote ...

torchering lives for thousands of generations...do you understand the depths of what we are talking about...this phone call is coming so far beyond the never never you could never appreciate it...

Perhaps we are about to witness the re-set button ... and much MUCH more... EXICTING TIMES!

viking

That and a few other things Anon said made me feel a little closer to the causal planes. I did not wish to interject that part, but judging by the effect many have spoken about him having on them, there was/is something very 'different' about the gentleman.

Since I was doing my best to write while listening, it does behoove me to download a copy of that interview and give it my full attention.

Yep spot on Modwiz...

Me too ... I'll digest some more with the hardcopy...

viking

[mosquito]

Just finished listening. Observations.

1) David IS NOT faking, you can feel his tension at the beginning
2) Anonymous is NOT Scots or Irish, nor does he sound (as someone else suggested) like a well travelled chap who's picked up differnt twangs here and there. What he sounds like is someone disguising his voice (for obvious reasons) by using different accents. There's a faint underlying hint of South African, which came through very strongly on at least 2 occasions, noticably at the very beginning, when he said "izit".

Although I can't access David's site, I was able to listen to the podcast which someone posted. Fulford's story sounds very plausible to me and I'm prepared to put my (metaphorical) c*ck on the block and say I believe it.

Watch this space, or at least sit back and enjoy the ride !!! No doubt there'll be chaos and panic as people's "money" becomes worthless, but once we come out the other side, everyone will benefit.

If I were David Wilcock, I don't think I'd be sleeping very soundly right now ! I hope is is and remains safe and well.

Thanks to Kerry for getting this up and accessible so quickly ;)

[jackovesk]

Well I woke up this morning fully refreshed...and now I have a frigging headache!!

Listening very carfully to the 'Irish Fellow' ...and his comments ...it sounds to me as though this chap is of 'cosmic origin' ... I know its bloody weird ...BUT ...

quote ...

torchering lives for thousands of generations...do you understand the depths of what we are talking about...this phone call is coming so far beyond the never never you could never appreciate it...

Perhaps we are about to witness the re-set button ... and much MUCH more... EXICTING TIMES!

viking

That and a few other things Anon said made me feel a little closer to the causal planes. I did not wish to interject that part, but judging by the effect many have spoken about him having on them, there was/is something very 'different' about the gentleman.

Since I was doing my best to write while listening, it does behoove me to download a copy of that interview and give it my full attention.

Indeed Mr.Modwiz Indeed...

I had my suspicions at the start...

UNTIL I started to hear the Anonymous Irishman Speak...

I listened very carefully to what he had to say, and even more closely to his phone...

It was'nt Skype, It Wasn't a landline or Cell..!

It was clear, but distant...The kind of phonecall someone would make from off-planet...

So to me, I thought the Anonymous Irishman might be 'Fair-Dinkum'...

Like I finished off saying in post #227

PS - Finally finished listening the whole interview...

For your sake David, I hope your telling the 'TRUTH'..! Because personally I would be more worried about the Anonymous Irishman, than the initial Threat maker if your not..!

Remember the 'Ancient Celtics'..!

PSS - Good Old Lord Sidious, would be having a field day on this Thread..!

[modwiz]

Well I woke up this morning fully refreshed...and now I have a frigging headache!!

Listening very carfully to the 'Irish Fellow' ...and his comments ...it sounds to me as though this chap is of 'cosmic origin' ... I know its bloody weird ...BUT ...

quote ...

torchering lives for thousands of generations...do you understand the depths of what we are talking about...this phone call is coming so far beyond the never never you could never appreciate it...

Perhaps we are about to witness the re-set button ... and much MUCH more... EXICTING TIMES!

viking

That and a few other things Anon said made me feel a little closer to the causal planes. I did not wish to interject that part, but judging by the effect many have spoken about him having on them, there was/is something very 'different' about the gentleman.

Since I was doing my best to write while listening, it does behoove me to download a copy of that interview and give it my full attention.

Indeed Mr.Modwiz Indeed...

I had my suspicions at the start...

UNTIL I started to hear the Anonymous Irishman Speak...

I listened very carefully to what he had to say, and even more closely to his phone...

It was'nt Skype, It Wasn't a landline or Cell..!

It was clear, but distant...The kind of phonecall someone would make from off-planet...

So to me, I thought the Anonymous Irishman might be 'Fair-Dinkum'...

Like I finished off saying in post #227

PS - Finally finished listening the whole interview...

For your sake David, I hope your telling the 'TRUTH'..! Because personally I would be more worried about the Anonymous Irishman, than the initial Threat maker if your not..!

Yes. He also seemed to allude to having a vantage point that would allow him to keep an eye on David anywhere on the planet. As in an Earth orbital position. David has himself a good ally as long as he plays it straight. The wild card in this interview was wilder than we could have dreamed.

[Calz]

I´m struggling with my understanding of spoken english, can anyone of you natives distinguish exactly what Anonymous is saying, beginning at about 1.11:44? Thank you in advance!
UT

Perhaps due to the importance a transcript might be provided either from Camelot or DW.

If nothing else, David mentioned the possibility of engineering an enhanced audio version.

[Calz]

Well I woke up this morning fully refreshed...and now I have a frigging headache!!

Listening very carfully to the 'Irish Fellow' ...and his comments ...it sounds to me as though this chap is of 'cosmic origin' ... I know its bloody weird ...BUT ...

quote ...

torchering lives for thousands of generations...do you understand the depths of what we are talking about...this phone call is coming so far beyond the never never you could never appreciate it...

Perhaps we are about to witness the re-set button ... and much MUCH more... EXICTING TIMES!

viking

That and a few other things Anon said made me feel a little closer to the causal planes. I did not wish to interject that part, but judging by the effect many have spoken about him having on them, there was/is something very 'different' about the gentleman.

Since I was doing my best to write while listening, it does behoove me to download a copy of that interview and give it my full attention.

Indeed Mr.Modwiz Indeed...

I had my suspicions at the start...

UNTIL I started to hear the Anonymous Irishman Speak...

I listened very carefully to what he had to say, and even more closely to his phone...

It was'nt Skype, It Wasn't a landline or Cell..!

It was clear, but distant...The kind of phonecall someone would make from off-planet...

So to me, I thought the Anonymous Irishman might be 'Fair-Dinkum'...

Like I finished off saying in post #227

PS - Finally finished listening the whole interview...

For your sake David, I hope your telling the 'TRUTH'..! Because personally I would be more worried about the Anonymous Irishman, than the initial Threat maker if your not..!

Remember the 'Ancient Celtics'..!

Yep ... said one of his people (paraphrasing) would be visiting (David) within the week and suggested to tell him *exactly* the truth of the situation ...

[modwiz]

Just finished listening. Observations.

1) David IS NOT faking, you can feel his tension at the beginning
2) Anonymous is NOT Scots or Irish, nor does he sound (as someone else suggested) like a well travelled chap who's picked up differnt twangs here and there. What he sounds like is someone disguising his voice (for obvious reasons) by using different accents. There's a faint underlying hint of South African, which came through very strongly on at least 2 occasions, noticably at the very beginning, when he said "izit".

Although I can't access David's site, I was able to listen to the podcast which someone posted. Fulford's story sounds very plausible to me and I'm prepared to put my (metaphorical) c*ck on the block and say I believe it.

Watch this space, or at least sit back and enjoy the ride !!! No doubt there'll be chaos and panic as people's "money" becomes worthless, but once we come out the other side, everyone will benefit.

If I were David Wilcock, I don't think I'd be sleeping very soundly right now ! I hope is is and remains safe and well.

Thanks to Kerry for getting this up and accessible so quickly ;)

I got the exact same feeling immediately. This is what I wrote as I heard his voice for the first time:
"Anonymous speaker is....speaking. Small talk and in jokes. ?? has an Irish way of speaking. May be faked".

From this post, the second that I did in the series:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36794-David-Wilcock-receives-very-serious-death-threat-after-Fulford-gets-kidnapped&p=380394&viewfull=1#post380394

[modwiz]

Well I woke up this morning fully refreshed...and now I have a frigging headache!!

Listening very carfully to the 'Irish Fellow' ...and his comments ...it sounds to me as though this chap is of 'cosmic origin' ... I know its bloody weird ...BUT ...

quote ...

torchering lives for thousands of generations...do you understand the depths of what we are talking about...this phone call is coming so far beyond the never never you could never appreciate it...

Perhaps we are about to witness the re-set button ... and much MUCH more... EXICTING TIMES!

viking

That and a few other things Anon said made me feel a little closer to the causal planes. I did not wish to interject that part, but judging by the effect many have spoken about him having on them, there was/is something very 'different' about the gentleman.

Since I was doing my best to write while listening, it does behoove me to download a copy of that interview and give it my full attention.

Yep spot on Modwiz...

Me too ... I'll digest some more with the hardcopy...

viking

I went back to the post I did in real time and copied this first impression of the 'Irishman'.

The ??? caller is a bit odd in behavior. I think this is meant to throw the scumbags a smokescreen. Still, an odd exchange between David and ??. David seems at ease as does Kerry.

[Lifebringer]

Its done. Protections by the Heavenly Father and Family to turn the tide on those who would harm or think of harming him. All our love David and GOD bless you also.

[araucaria]

It may be that the globetrotting accent may be anonymous's way, not of disguising his voice, but on the contrary making his identity crystal clear to those who need to know.

[TraineeHuman]

Another mind-blowing thing about all this is just how much courage and how much brilliance of mind and heart Ben and David have both shown.

It reminds me of creative geniuses. They open up whole new possibilities -- but only by being able to find and mine the right vein and make it work. They do it in the face of cynicism and rejection, if not persecution. They create something magnificent out of nothing, and then in hindsight everyone can see that what they have created was a fuller or more accurate version of the truth that had been lying hidden all along.

[modwiz]

Another mind-blowing thing about all this is just how much courage and how much brilliance of mind and heart Ben and David have both shown.

It reminds me of creative geniuses. They open up whole new possibilities -- but only by being able to find and mine the right vein and make it work. They do it in the face of cynicism and rejection, if not persecution. They create something magnificent out of nothing, and then in hindsight everyone can see that what they have created was a fuller or more accurate version of the truth that had been lying hidden all along.

I like what you are saying here. Two hobbits against the forces of Sauron and not knowing if they will survive. The speech Sam makes about pushing on because there is something decent in this world comes to mind.

These are the stories worth telling. The ones people want to hear.

[joedjemal]

I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

[Lisab]

Last night I woke bolt upright, from a deep sleep, at 2AM and couldnt get back to sleep. Now I know why!! This is all so amazing. What a ride and what a way to end 2011. I have to say Kerry handled that all so brilliantly. Ive hardly slept but Im buzzing with energy. Going to hold David in love now. Phew, need to ground first!

[Star Tsar]

Anonymous is right he should put it all out there for all to see...

[jackovesk]

The Anonymous Irishman mates are going to pay David a visit next week...should be interesting if legit..?

Kerry was'nt wrong when she said, she was protected...

From memory, let me give those who have'nt listened to interview a very brief overview of what the Anonymous Irishman said...



David should release everything (Only if its the Truth). We will be very upset if we don't see you put All the information Out to the public.
David will be protected, if he is telling the Truth & They will Know.
Counter-Threat to the OWO/PTB - We don't talk about Torcher in just this life, we talk about Torcher in lives that go for 1,000s of generations.
Nobody will be interferred with, as long as they don't (Break the Rules) Tell the Truth & Don't Comprimise.
The Daughters of the Pheonix are to return.
2012 will be eventful.
The 505 will rid the planet of every single last member of the OWO.
There is much more Gold, than even David mentioned.
His groups tracking technology is far beyond what the OWO could even begin to imagine.
In 20 years the entire World and the Human Race will be totally transformed with Rainbows of Abundance shining upon it.
For over 1,000 his group has been planning earths transformation and they Not going to let the OWO try and stuff it up.
David will recieve a visit from the 505 next week, to see if he's Ok and if he has had any further trouble? If so, by whom?
The Anonymous Irishman and his Group ar ONLY interested in the survival of the Human Race & its Genome.
The masses of Gold will be put to good use in superior technology, not left in some vault for the OWO to glote over.
Humanity will live on for a Millions years in a world you won't even recognize.


This 'above' is not word for word, but its the best I could do from memory...

I will keep it updated if I remember anything else

Rgs

Jack

PS - Here is the Pdf file they were talking about in the interview...

http://46.183.168.57/camelot/The-Trillion-Dollar-Lawsuit-That-Could-End-Financial-Tyranny.pdf

[Star Tsar]

Some of the the terms he uses are indeed irish like "don't be worring" my dads irish so thats how I can tell!
I find him very interesting said he was "far far away so far you wouldn't believe me"
:confused:

[witchy1]

Hey Jack, do you know who the daughters of the pheonix are.....I listened to it but missed that part? Anyone???

[spiritguide]

The picture is developing. It is going to be the brightest story ever told. Our future is full of rainbows with decent struggles. For those that think otherwise the un edited message has been sent in plain english. "You have lost the battle for total control!" Truly befitting for this time of the year "Peace on Earth good will towards all men.". My spirit cries tears of love and my heart sings songs of happiness for all that is.

:peace:

[apokalypse]

bless Wilcock and hope he's ok...daughters of the pheonix return!!! what he talking about?

[Calz]

Still no "Part 2" update on DW's site and it is now 5:20 am his time.

No doubt being *really* careful with this one.


* update *


Still no update from DW and 6:35 am his time.

[Chucky]

He did say there is hard times coming but stick together and love your family. Spoken like true person with values. Creep feeling I get about this as if he most definately know the dice are about to roll. Times are changing faster by the day. Get ready...:)
Glad to see Davids spirits rise up above the dampener that a death threat can punch. I agree the irish man. Don't worry about those little fools. The bigger fish are watching over us. Good to know too.

The picture is developing. It is going to be the brightest story ever told. Our future is full of rainbows with decent struggles. For those that think otherwise the un edited message has been sent in plain english. "You have lost the battle for total control!" Truly befitting for this time of the year "Peace on Earth good will towards all men.". My spirit cries tears of love and my heart sings songs of happiness for all that is.

:peace:

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Another has been started with a good question. Who are the Daughters of Phoenix? Anyone know .The irish fella referenced to it.??

[Calz]

Hey Jack, do you know who the daughters of the pheonix are.....I listened to it but missed that part? Anyone???

There were some posts exchanged earlier in the thread. Here is one (think from page 8) ...



For me and my energetic path and experiences, the phoenix is a very powerful symbol. It negates fear, it stands in it's own power, it is powerful and a strong support for those aligned to it. It's more of an archtype energy. In my HPS role it can play a part in a working, it does not fear, and it knows itself. It's very hard to fully express the power, beauty, and giving of self that the phoenix embodies. When the call is made, the Phoenix will appear and will do it's duty completely without flinching. Hope this helps.

[David Topí]

the "irish guy" is a 4D off-planet... :-)

[jackovesk]

Hey Jack, do you know who the daughters of the pheonix are.....I listened to it but missed that part? Anyone???

It may have been just a figure of Mythological/Symbolic expression he used in conversation to express the 'Coming of a New Dawn'..?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Phoenix_detail_from_Aberdeen_Bestiary.jpg/250px-Phoenix_detail_from_Aberdeen_Bestiary.jpg


A phoenix is a mythical bird with a colorful plumage and a tail of gold and scarlet (or purple, blue, and green according to some legends[weasel words]). It has a 500 to 1000 year life-cycle, near the end of which it builds itself a nest of twigs that then ignites; both nest and bird burn fiercely and are reduced to ashes, from which a new, young phoenix or phoenix egg arises, reborn anew to live again.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Phoenix_(mythology)

[andrewgreen]

With this situation Davids going to come out and say what he knows with hard evidence. The only 'get out' he's got has been given to him by the 'Irish guy'.

David may have to hold on to certain information on their say so for his protection. Similar to Fulford and the dragon society, convenient isn't it.

I can see this as the beginning of some more far fetched owo vs nwo battle for control, just a way to drag out and expand on the fiction we've been hearing for months.

I expect no harm to come to David or hard evidence but a good deal more drama. I don't believe this happening now is a coincidence in relation to his book recently being released. What he's been coming out with has been growing old for too long he needed more attention and he's a very good actor and charismatic.

Hey but maybe I'm just cynical!

[Unified Serenity]

With this situation Davids going to come out and say what he knows with hard evidence. The only 'get out' he's got has been given to him by the 'Irish guy'.

David may have to hold on to certain information on their say so for his protection. Similar to Fulford and the dragon society, convenient isn't it.

I can see this as the beginning of some more far fetched owo vs nwo battle for control, just a way to drag out and expand on the fiction we've been hearing for months.

I expect no harm to come to David or hard evidence but a good deal more drama. I don't believe this happening now is a coincidence in relation to his book recently being released. What he's been coming out with has been growing old for too long he needed more attention and he's a very good actor and charismatic.

Hey but maybe I'm just cynical!

I have to say when it comes to DW I have never really liked him much and it's just my energy read on him, and some personal bits of information some shared with me that confirmed some of my reads. I'm sure like all of us, DW has his plus and minus aspects. I will not say this is a stunt however. I do believe DW was shaken, but I do not believe it was credible from his sources or someone was lying to the sources as well. It's sort of how the NWO ptb play the game. They have their light pathers and their dark pathers... they have their left hand pathers and their right hand pathers and they tell both of them they are correct. Then, when they want to use them, they feed information or have them do a working and voila we have problem, crisis, solution.

At this time, I do find much humor in the Hegalian dialectic sting being used against the PTB who have most of the control of the western system. I think all in all, that's what has tickled me the most. David will be fine. Drama keeps people distracted. I sincerely wonder what's going on while we are all sending DW protective energy, who are we not focusing on that maybe we really should be focusing? With the political arena, I'd definitely say Ron Paul needs our protection. There may be some scientists trying to bring about free energy who need our protection, and I will do so now even if I don't have their name, the universe knows.

My point is, while I don't believe last night was a hoax, I don't think all this hoopla over it is necessary, and some would now that the attention is garnered want to capitalize on said attention. Leopard's don't change their spots easily.

[RMorgan]

This death threat might as well be true or not.

The world sometimes can be a weird place, with weird people...

Personally, I tend to like DW´s works, but there´s a big possibility that this could be just a sensational marketing strategy.

You know, a serious death threat is the ultimate curriculum item to transform a possible whistle-blower into a undeniable whistle-blower...It´s like a PHD degree for them.

However, it´s so easy to fabricate a death thread when you have millions of people who will take your word as granted.

Things are getting so confused these days, that´s literally impossible to know what´s true, coming from these guys...

All this stuff looks like a poorly written soap opera script...But who knows...Sometimes life itself looks like a bad script as well.

Cheers,

Raf.

[andrewgreen]

My point is, while I don't believe last night was a hoax, I don't think all this hoopla over it is necessary, and some would now that the attention is garnered want to capitalize on said attention. Leopard's don't change their spots easily.[/QUOTE]

Id like what David says to be true and I'm sure some of it might be, but some of it is speculation at best. In relation to who we should be concentrating on I believe its ourselves and how we can be better as everything else is happening exactly the way its meant too.

[araucaria]

It's not a matter of having a six-shooter and counting your bullets and counting your targets. Just staying focused should be enough to provide a modicum of help wherever it is needed.

I'd forget about what may be happening somewhere on your blind side. If I may say so, you seem to have everyone covered anyway :)

Writing this, I've just had a high energy cartridge-shaped battery fall over of its own accord just beside me - lookslike I just fired a shot ;)

[Calz]

With this situation Davids going to come out and say what he knows with hard evidence. The only 'get out' he's got has been given to him by the 'Irish guy'.

David may have to hold on to certain information on their say so for his protection. Similar to Fulford and the dragon society, convenient isn't it.

I can see this as the beginning of some more far fetched owo vs nwo battle for control, just a way to drag out and expand on the fiction we've been hearing for months.

I expect no harm to come to David or hard evidence but a good deal more drama. I don't believe this happening now is a coincidence in relation to his book recently being released. What he's been coming out with has been growing old for too long he needed more attention and he's a very good actor and charismatic.

Hey but maybe I'm just cynical!

I have to say when it comes to DW I have never really liked him much and it's just my energy read on him, and some personal bits of information some shared with me that confirmed some of my reads. I'm sure like all of us, DW has his plus and minus aspects. I will not say this is a stunt however. I do believe DW was shaken, but I do not believe it was credible from his sources or someone was lying to the sources as well. It's sort of how the NWO ptb play the game. They have their light pathers and their dark pathers... they have their left hand pathers and their right hand pathers and they tell both of them they are correct. Then, when they want to use them, they feed information or have them do a working and voila we have problem, crisis, solution.

At this time, I do find much humor in the Hegalian dialectic sting being used against the PTB who have most of the control of the western system. I think all in all, that's what has tickled me the most. David will be fine. Drama keeps people distracted. I sincerely wonder what's going on while we are all sending DW protective energy, who are we not focusing on that maybe we really should be focusing? With the political arena, I'd definitely say Ron Paul needs our protection. There may be some scientists trying to bring about free energy who need our protection, and I will do so now even if I don't have their name, the universe knows.

My point is, while I don't believe last night was a hoax, I don't think all this hoopla over it is necessary, and some would now that the attention is garnered want to capitalize on said attention. Leopard's don't change their spots easily.


Interesting to match that up with what TWINCANS experienced psychically while listening ... (and this is someone I have learned to pay attention to).

I think there is more (or less) to the story here but I expect DW was being genuine. An emotional guy but I have never heard him like that before. I think he was sincerely scared not so much for his life but taking the torture threat(s) seriously.

IMHO




So, getting here that this is about a close associate or friend of David's who has set him up , because he thinks David has lied to him. There's a jewish connection (of course). But all the right things have been done by getting this out there and it has lessened the danger to David.

Just posting this in the continued intentions of getting info out so no one can hide. You can believe it or not.


... and this is something brought through by guidance???

Nope. Just good ol' fashioned psychic pickup. The puzzle has many pieces - that's probably just one. Anonymous sounded like there are no puzzles:bigfish:to him.

[Kristin]

I thought it was already established that Fulford was never kidnapped. A death threat from a friend "insider"? Hmmm. I think Wilcock is being duped from the wolves he runs with by a false threat to lend credibility to Fulfords group. Just my intuition. Wilcock is doing the right thing by remaining public in either case. I wish him well.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[christian]

A death threat nowadays is a badge of honor.
If it's real, it adds credence to his recent publications relating to Fulford eventually.

Or this is some total twist, where he was fed false information first and received a fake death threat now, to make it all appear real, I just want to entertain this possibility also, not least because Bill mentioned that one of his insiders is a 'proven liar' ...

[Ultima Thule]

I expect no harm to come to David or hard evidence but a good deal more drama. I don't believe this happening now is a coincidence in relation to his book recently being released. What he's been coming out with has been growing old for too long he needed more attention and he's a very good actor and charismatic.

Hey but maybe I'm just cynical!

Cynical, noooooo - and I don´t know sarcasm when I see one :p
Anyways, regarding the claim that David just pulled an act to capitalize on merchandise - it would have demanded in this case a cooperation by Kerry and Anonymous, which I personally don´t see at all plausible. And Mr. Anonymous surely had such an air of mystery and seriousness about him, that is in my opinion not to be mistaken for acting on Davids "team" or this sort of character being fooled for a second by acting on Davids part. So I would figure categorically a big, big no, that this was done in any way to promote business.

UT

[Carmody]

They're back. Astrologer is there as well, Kerry has asked her to hold space. Yea Kerry.

Anonymous speaker is....speaking. Small talk and in jokes. ?? has an Irish way of speaking. May be faked.

Huge amounts of hidden gold, much at the bottom of the sea, but recorded and registered. This is the real value for the future monetary systems.

David is talking about Ben and the whole he said, they said. David is being encouraged by ??? to put out the rest of the info and bring this to a conclusion. The ??? caller is a bit odd in behavior. I think this is meant to throw the scumbags a smokescreen. Still, an odd exchange between David and ??. David seems at ease as does Kerry.

David is being told that the gold that he knows about is only a tiny portion of what truly exists. There is so much gold that keeping the the huge amount available is the hard part. Keeping it scarce is part of the game. Apparently gold is as plentiful as sand. David is acknowledging that he knows this about gold and that people knowing of this scam could produce unpleasant effects. Go figure, with gold at almost 1800.00 an ounce. It was 35.00 only 25 years ago.

Another commercial. They go out with John Lennon sing his, "All I Want Is The Truth" song.

Hell, the bottom of the ocean is loaded with monotonic gold and other elements that can easily be converted back. However, elements can be converted from just about any appropriate seed stock, so the whole thing is all so damned irrelevant. However, the dance is part of the script....so...

Read that last bit again. The ability to transmute matter is well, not such a big thing.

Investing in a piece of 'matter' as if it is some value to humanity, is a fools game.

it may be from a mundane view, ok. sure. Whatever. But judging one's or another's worth based on how much 'matter' they have to 'trade', as a condition of continuance of what we see as being some form of life...is a real joke. it is psychotic, to me. Incorrect objectification of human value.

Within the context of reaching a certain point in technology, the least that I'm conceptually aware of, regarding the science of it....and very likely something I could pull off, given the resources of maybe a few million bucks in equipment...matter can be made. Seriously. My ignorance says I have to use a seed stock of sorts, until I fully understand the process.

No shortage of some rock, element or whatnot.

The idea of projecting the value of a rock or element into the skies of alternate realities and futures of science, technology and dimensional existence, is a fools game. It is based on an ignorance of what the reality of matter is.

Gold is like any other element. It is a consensus point of vibrating and oscillating energies that are compacted together in a specific way. A way that can be altered fairly easily, when the trick of such is known. There is no scarcity of any given element, in my understanding of the constitution of this place we call earth.

There is merely a public ignorance on how such manipulations of "matter-time/space" can be shifted and altered.

Thus, I will not base human value -now or in the future- on some egoic idealization of an 'element', that is vaporously close to being something that we can alter easily, with regard to known public science and technology.

[9eagle9]

Someone abate my confusion please, regarding thread header. Putting David, aside for the moment (I'm listening now...)

But ....Uhm.....has Fulford been kidnapped?

???????????????

[childs hood end]

St Germain talkin from a spaceship...........................
the "irish guy" is a 4D off-planet... :-)

[Logan]

F - fake
E - evidence
A - appearing
R - real

OMG all Gary Busey quotes immediately set my phasers to AWESOME.... if that even makes sense. LOL you rock

[Unified Serenity]

It's not a matter of having a six-shooter and counting your bullets and counting your targets. Just staying focused should be enough to provide a modicum of help wherever it is needed.

I'd forget about what may be happening somewhere on your blind side. If I may say so, you seem to have everyone covered anyway :)

Writing this, I've just had a high energy cartridge-shaped battery fall over of its own accord just beside me - lookslike I just fired a shot ;)

Well, it's obvious to me you have never been in a "witch" war. Intention and attention play key roles in how things happen. People are much more powerful than they give themselves credit for, and being distracted by a little trash can fire can keep one from noticing the inferno blazing elsewhere or about the be set afire

[Calz]

Someone abate my confusion please, regarding thread header. Putting David, aside for the moment (I'm listening now...)

But ....Uhm.....has Fulford been kidnapped?

???????????????

Yes for 1 1/2 days ... confusion about what did or did not happen.

Regardless ... he is now free.

[Carmody]

It's not a matter of having a six-shooter and counting your bullets and counting your targets. Just staying focused should be enough to provide a modicum of help wherever it is needed.

I'd forget about what may be happening somewhere on your blind side. If I may say so, you seem to have everyone covered anyway :)

Writing this, I've just had a high energy cartridge-shaped battery fall over of its own accord just beside me - lookslike I just fired a shot ;)

Well, it's obvious to me you have never been in a "witch" war. Intention and attention play key roles in how things happen. People are much more powerful than they give themselves credit for, and being distracted by a little trash can fire can keep one from noticing the inferno blazing elsewhere or about the be set afire

Absolutely.

I'm still..as I said back with the Whole Charles affair..I'm staying on target. No matter what runner comes flying into the camp with news about any given situation....

....I'm still sitting in the camp, sharpening my sword.

Stay on target.

* * *

The USA's indefinite detention bill just went forward, what, yesterday?

[Nerge]

I've not had the chance to listen to last night's interview yet but I intend to.

Personally, I like David, but I'm sure he's not perfect, as I doubt any of us are. My perspective on this (and many other events) is to remain calm, absorb the info and file it away for reference (figuritively); the more info you have the easier it often is to connect the dots and go with what your heart tells you and remain calm.

As others have often said, I think it's important that we work together and not become divided, regardless of what happens or due to differing opinions or random outbursts; we're all, ultimately, trying to get to the same place in the end, just in many different paths. ;)

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

wilcock on camelot about death threat:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcy0X5w3KwU

[9eagle9]

It occurred to me they are scraping the bottom of the barrell with gold hoarding thing. Over the last few years I've noticed an abundance of gold taking shops springing up all over the place and on line. you know what I mean..... Where you sell you're gold 'trash' , old jewelery, and scrap gold for money. I found it curious that a shop like that showed up in the little village I live in, where shops other than fuel, feed, and tractor parts tend not to do well. they are all over the place here now, big cities and small little one light towns like this one.

Gold scrapping? I mean they are that hoard oriented that they are marketing outlets to scrape up a few bits here and there.

One wonders....

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcy0X5w3KwU

[Unified Serenity]

Now that is some great advice. Well done.

Serenity





It's not a matter of having a six-shooter and counting your bullets and counting your targets. Just staying focused should be enough to provide a modicum of help wherever it is needed.

I'd forget about what may be happening somewhere on your blind side. If I may say so, you seem to have everyone covered anyway :)

Writing this, I've just had a high energy cartridge-shaped battery fall over of its own accord just beside me - lookslike I just fired a shot ;)

Well, it's obvious to me you have never been in a "witch" war. Intention and attention play key roles in how things happen. People are much more powerful than they give themselves credit for, and being distracted by a little trash can fire can keep one from noticing the inferno blazing elsewhere or about the be set afire

Absolutely.

I'm still..as I said back with the Whole Charles affair..I'm staying on target. No matter what runner comes flying into the camp with news about any given situation....

....I'm still sitting in the camp, sharpening my sword.

Stay on target.

* * *

The USA's indefinite detention bill just went forward, what, yesterday?

[Lisab]

They're back. Astrologer is there as well, Kerry has asked her to hold space. Yea Kerry.

Anonymous speaker is....speaking. Small talk and in jokes. ?? has an Irish way of speaking. May be faked.

Huge amounts of hidden gold, much at the bottom of the sea, but recorded and registered. This is the real value for the future monetary systems.

David is talking about Ben and the whole he said, they said. David is being encouraged by ??? to put out the rest of the info and bring this to a conclusion. The ??? caller is a bit odd in behavior. I think this is meant to throw the scumbags a smokescreen. Still, an odd exchange between David and ??. David seems at ease as does Kerry.

David is being told that the gold that he knows about is only a tiny portion of what truly exists. There is so much gold that keeping the the huge amount available is the hard part. Keeping it scarce is part of the game. Apparently gold is as plentiful as sand. David is acknowledging that he knows this about gold and that people knowing of this scam could produce unpleasant effects. Go figure, with gold at almost 1800.00 an ounce. It was 35.00 only 25 years ago.

Another commercial. They go out with John Lennon sing his, "All I Want Is The Truth" song.

Hell, the bottom of the ocean is loaded with monotonic gold and other elements that can easily be converted back. However, elements can be converted from just about any appropriate seed stock, so the whole thing is all so damned irrelevant. However, the dance is part of the script....so...

Read that last bit again. The ability to transmute matter is well, not such a big thing.

Investing in a piece of 'matter' as if it is some value to humanity, is a fools game.

it may be from a mundane view, ok. sure. Whatever. But judging one's or another's worth based on how much 'matter' they have to 'trade', as a condition of continuance of what we see as being some form of life...is a real joke. it is psychotic, to me. Incorrect objectification of human value.

Within the context of reaching a certain point in technology, the least that I'm conceptually aware of, regarding the science of it....and very likely something I could pull off, given the resources of maybe a few million bucks in equipment...matter can be made. Seriously. My ignorance says I have to use a seed stock of sorts, until I fully understand the process.

No shortage of some rock, element or whatnot.

The idea of projecting the value of a rock or element into the skies of alternate realities and futures of science, technology and dimensional existence, is a fools game. It is based on an ignorance of what the reality of matter is.

Gold is like any other element. It is a consensus point of vibrating and oscillating energies that are compacted together in a specific way. A way that can be altered fairly easily, when the trick of such is known. There is no scarcity of any given element, in my understanding of the constitution of this place we call earth.

There is merely a public ignorance on how such manipulations of "matter-time/space" can be shifted and altered.

Thus, I will not base human value -now or in the future- on some egoic idealization of an 'element', that is vaporously close to being something that we can alter easily, with regard to known public science and technology.

Now I have Fool's Gold by The Stone Roses on loop in my head but I still cant do links. Duh!

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Sorry if this has already been posted. I couldn't find it. David is in my prayers.

[Logan]

I am listening to the radio show now... I hope to be able to contribute constructively to the discussion in a bit after I listen to this. :)

[jackovesk]

Here was my response to someone else who thought the whole story was a little fishy in a PM they sent me...


My thought's were initially, exactly the same ?????. I even had this ready to post...

I hate to say it, but somehow I don't believe a word of it. The whole Bogus Ben Fulford kidnapping Drama, now the Death Threats?

Why would I say such a thing..?

1. Coz, its like an episode of the Keystone Cops
2. I've seen Banki Moon in Good Spirits sharing laugh with Sacked PM Kevin Rudd yesterday on the news
3. Obama looks like he's not too concerned either
4. The whole Japanese TV Alert the Subsequent confirmation from Ben's Karate/Ninja/Triad mates
5. Why are we being absolutely being spoonfed every little detail of this whole saga..? in such a short space of time..?

That's just my Discernment kicking in...

Some here may know that Ben Fulford after several years as a regular on Jeff Rense was shown the door, only to have the door opened by David Wilcock and within a few weeks we have all this Drama going on...

I hate playing the Debunker, but don't you think this is a little convenient and all too much after both Ben & David's credibility has been questioned of late..?

Don't get me wrong, I want the OWO Crooks to be hurled up in front of the courts and see natural justice taking place, but really this story reads like an F-Grade Comedy Sketch..!

With Ben, David & the Ninja's cast as the Clowns...:jester:

Something just stinks like wrotten fish to me..!

UNTIL I started to hear the Anonymous Irishman Speak...

I listened very carefully to what he had to say, and even more closely to his phone...

It was'nt Skype, It Wasn't a landline or Cell..!

It was clear, but distant...The kind of phonecall someone would make from off-planet...

So to me, I thought the Anonymous Irishman maybe 'Fair-Dinkum'..?

Have a look at his last comment he left with David in the interview on my post #227


Ending with this Statement - "As long as your telling the 'TRUTH' David, you have nothing to worry about from us..."

Rgs,

Jack

There is nothing wrong with 'Asking the Questions' folks...

[Logan]

I'm listening to David speak and my heart goes out to him. The poor man is scared out of his mind and weeping. David you will be fine my brother, you will be fine. All the peace and love and light in the world is yours right now.

This is heart-wrenching to listen to. Love you brother David!! It's gonna be okay man!!!

Is there any way David can have a name registered for him here? We need to focus on sending our positive thoughts to him.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

wilcock on camelot about death threat:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcy0X5w3KwU

Who is the irishman?

[Calz]

UNTIL I started to hear the Anonymous Irishman Speak...

I listened very carefully to what he had to say, and even more closely to his phone...

It was'nt Skype, It Wasn't a landline or Cell..!

It was clear, but distant...The kind of phonecall someone would make from off-planet...

So to me, I thought the Anonymous Irishman maybe 'Fair-Dinkum'..?

Have a look at his last comment he left with David in the interview on my post #227


Ending with this Statement - "As long as your telling the 'TRUTH' David, you have nothing to worry about from us..."

Rgs,

Jack




The phone call was admittedly odd.

The connection was like ... crystal clear ... much better than any of the other callers.

He apologized for a "lag" but I didn't detect one ... and with international calls broadcast it is usually quite distinct.

That was a good "catch" Jack. :thumb:

[jackovesk]

wilcock on camelot about death threat:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcy0X5w3KwU

Who is the irishman?


Its a pity there were no camera's rolling, its easier to read someones body language than their voice...

David was obviously emotional, but he did admit that he's been though alot personally over the last few days besides the Death Threats..!

If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

I'll just label it the 'Never Ending Story' and treat it as just another 'Pie in the Sky' Fairytale..!

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1011/never-ending-story-church-clock-watch-boring-demotivational-poster-1291154601.jpg

PS - Who is the irishman? That's a Bloody Good Question AlternativeInfoJunkie, and how did he come to get on Kerry's show..? Was he invited or did he Magically Appear..?

[Calz]

Jack:


If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

[araucaria]

Now that is some great advice. Well done.

Serenity





It's not a matter of having a six-shooter and counting your bullets and counting your targets. Just staying focused should be enough to provide a modicum of help wherever it is needed.

I'd forget about what may be happening somewhere on your blind side. If I may say so, you seem to have everyone covered anyway :)

Writing this, I've just had a high energy cartridge-shaped battery fall over of its own accord just beside me - lookslike I just fired a shot ;)

Well, it's obvious to me you have never been in a "witch" war. Intention and attention play key roles in how things happen. People are much more powerful than they give themselves credit for, and being distracted by a little trash can fire can keep one from noticing the inferno blazing elsewhere or about the be set afire

Absolutely.

I'm still..as I said back with the Whole Charles affair..I'm staying on target. No matter what runner comes flying into the camp with news about any given situation....

....I'm still sitting in the camp, sharpening my sword.

Stay on target.

* * *

The USA's indefinite detention bill just went forward, what, yesterday?


I don’t disagree with you guys. Do it your way. If you can get Ron Paul into the White House, then go for it!

However that is a very diffuse target. You have millions of voters using Diebold machines to sway, and a media blackout to overcome, etc etc.

Also, once your man is in, he may find himself powerless to act. He is going to need help all the way.

Also, this strikes me as a very American solution to a global problem.

Why was the Charles thing a distraction? Because while preaching action he was making sure nothing got done.

Why is the Wilcock/Fulford affair not a distraction? Because it has created a specific focus for action, namely one lawsuit, and the outcome of this single issue will have truly colossal planetwide repercussions.

You are right, I am no witch, but if I had just one choice of a place to push, this would be it.

[jackovesk]

Jack:


If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

Yes, I do but why isn't the likes of Jeff Rense who knows Fulford better than most about reporting on it..?

Why did he show him the door in the 1st place..?

Ben was spouting his stuff on several other radio shows before he came and knocked on Wilcock's door..!

Then all of a sudden 'Kapow' the Drama started...

Its, like we are continually being Dragged On & On with no end in sight...

It's extremely Frustrating IMHO...:faint:

[mountain_jim]

Have any of you been to the site David mentioned yet:

http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/deepblacklies_new.htm

I had been following info about financial corruption for years, but was unaware of this site until today, and it appears on first look to have a lot about the history that Ben and David are referencing there.

[taliesin]

Just listening to it now. The anonymous guy is masking an Australian accent, he's probably of irish/northern irish/scottish extraction hence certain words and mannerisms of speaking are quite effective. But the words that are difficult to mask sound australian to me as do his more "relaxed" phrases.

All feels like a bit of a storm in a teacup. I doubt anything will happen to David, though I can appreciate he is scared. Time to walk his talk. His intent feels sincere and to have integrity, but the rest of it, that FIAT currencies are actually backed by looted gold (hidden in the Mariana trench) and not FIAT at all - ludicrous. I do buy the gold in 9/11 going missing story and the Kennedy bonds/Chinese gold swap.

The lawsuit very well may be real and based in fact, but all this hype around it just sounds like drama and publicity making.

BS radars picking it up, never bought the Fulford personality.

Just my 2 cents.

Love and blessings
xxx T

[take]

A transcript of the interview would be nice. It's hard to hear/understand the "irish" accent at times.. :/

[Calz]

Jack:


If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

Yes, I do but why isn't the likes of Jeff Rense who knows Fulford better than most about reporting on it..?

Why did he show him the door in the 1st place..?

Ben was spouting his stuff on several other radio shows before he came and knocked on Wilcock's door..!

Then all of a sudden 'Kapow' the Drama started...

Its, like we are continually being Dragged On & On with no end in sight...

It's extremely Frustrating IMHO...:faint:

Rense has plenty of detractors ... I stopped visiting his site a long time ago.

Doesn't mean some good material does not come through there ...

Bottom line is that ... "it is what it is" regarding the lawsuit. Wilcock has suggested within the last couple weeks since his interview of Fulford he has come across material 90% of which Fulford has not brought out (being in touch with those bringing the suit).

I feel the frustration regarding information gathering from any source.

Whether or not the lawsuit "goes" anywhere is one thing. The information flowing into the public domain is quite another.

I know if I was a bankster ... I would be a bit itchy about the world's military/intel folk catching wind of what has been going down for a long long time ...

[jackovesk]

A transcript of the interview would be nice. It's hard to hear/understand the "irish" accent at times.. :/

To be Sure..

http://www.crazywebsite.com/Pg-Free-Clipart-Graphics/Saint-Patricks-Day-Free-Clipart-Gallery/Funny-Irish-Images/Animated-Leprechaun-Pot-of-Gold-06.gif

[Arrowwind]

So, was Benjamin Fulford actually kidnapped on Dec 15? Anyone heard from him?

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I wish the 'Anonymous Irishman' was a friend of mine..!

Jacko, I'm pretty sure he is. :-)

[joedjemal]

Jack:


If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

For me it's not of substance until after the period allowed for response (60 days on the part of the UN) and the evidence is presented without the case being dismissed as spurious. At present it could be any old nonsense, anyone can bring any sort of case, it's what happens with it that matters and for that we have to wait until the 28th of January

[Calz]

Well ... 8:15 am in DW's time zone and still no promised update for "Part 2".

Thought he was pulling an "all nighter" since so much for him personally depended on it (and that could still be the case).

Could be he was simply exhausted and figured his message got out to enough people with Kerry's radio spot ... and with assurance of "protection" that he is sleeping and will update later.

Don't want to add any energy to any other "possibility" at this point.

Be well David.

[Eric J (Viking)]

So, was Benjamin Fulford actually kidnapped on Dec 15? Anyone heard from him?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36766-Fulford-released...&p=380953#post380953

viking

[Calz]

Jack:


If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

For me it's not of substance until after the period allowed for response (60 days on the part of the UN) and the evidence is presented without the case being dismissed as spurious. At present it could be any old nonsense, anyone can bring any sort of case, it's what happens with it that matters and for that we have to wait until the 28th of January

Good point ... but as of now my focus would be on the material being released into public domain as opposed to what (if anything) happens in court.

Legal system (like most everything else) is so corrupt that the only way anything good can come of this is through numbers.

Big numbers.

[Lazlo]

I'm calling BS on Fulford's backstory. The klaxons started blaring when he said that 600 bankers went down with the Titanic, and that they were set up by JP Morgan. It is true that Morgan chose not to board at the last minute...

BUT, There were a total of 805 men on board who were not crewembers. 175 in 1st class; 168 in 2nd class, and 462 in 3rd class.

Of these, 659 men went down with the ship. 118 in 1st class; 154 in 2nd class, and 387 in 3rd class.

Sorry the numbers just don't add up. I'm not buying it that the world's power elite, who were set to stop the formation of the Federal Reserve, were mostly booked into 3rd class, and that the ship was deliberately run into an iceberg. When Fulford is willing to state something so obviously wrong, and that anyone with a computer can check for themselves, and when Wilcock is ready to swallow this hook, line, and sinker: It makes the entire story into a joke. I am not even going to waste my time fact checking the rest of it.

And I said it elsewhere, ANYONE can file a lawsuit, based on ANYTHING, naming WHOMEVER they want as defendants. All it takes is the payment of a nominal filing fee.

If I was so inclined, for about $10, I could file a lawsuit against the Vatican, on behalf of Catholics everywhere, for the return of all of the tithes paid over the last 1600 years, because they lied to us about Aliens.

Filing a lawsuit doesn't make it true, meritorious, or even sensible.

It's this kind of crap that makes the vast majority of the populace dismiss the alternative community as a bunch of tin foil hat wearing crackpots. ARGHHHHH!

[9eagle9]

That's good. The epic drama of the shaman/witch/ psychic battle, witch war only serves to drag people of that ilk back into the game that's been going on since time out of mind . It's a very low level and rather juvenile fourth dimensional mind trap. David W would be wise to follow his own advice and know that if the psychic attempt fails it's forced out into the physical. And so instead of focusing on what is occurring here which is the same old same old, I'd focus on what it's telling....instead of doing. What it's doing is setting a stage for another fear drama, but what is it telling is.....??????

As I like to say, Everything serves my purpose ........if I don't make it self serving.

So we have big dicks swinging with a bunch of covert secret information they don't want anyone to know about because they have attached a great deal of importance on it. It's valuable to them. And someone else finds out the secret covert information and treats it with as much secret covert importance, and places as much value on it as the big dicks and the big dicks get a hard one because someone they don't percieve as a big dick has their big dick information, so on on and on and on and on and on it goes. The Nixon Admin comes to mind here....

If you ever have the opportunity to observe a witch war one could be amused at its Monty Python-esque feelings it evokes in one. One could be amused but for the prevalency of how people who have a potential for something greater tie their energy and authority up in that sort of thing. Mostly what you will find two people clawing at each other's ego fears. And the winner is the one who walks away with the bigger ego because their opponent has fed it by making agreement to feed into that sort of thing.

One's power is demonstrated by not walking into the game, once again. This is not passivity one just rises above the level of where all this hoo hoo is acted out and sees the game for what it is. Resisting temptation as it were, to trip trap into what is essentaily yet another dick swinging contest. And basically the voting and presidential thing is just a physical demonstration of a psychic witch war, inacted out in the 3d world. We know its rather useless but still we keep walking to the voting box. Feeding the belief that we are actually doing something but just feeding the old systems again and again.

This has nothing to do with how I percieve Ron Paul personally. If we want Ron Paul in power we're going to have find a new way of doing things. Meaning we first have to stop intiating in the old way of doing things. If we charterted a helicopter and personally dropped him into the White House that MAY not work but at least it wouldn't be the old paradigm way of doing things.

It would at least be a start, a willingness to demonstrate that we are capable of doing things a different way.





Now that is some great advice. Well done.

Serenity





It's not a matter of having a six-shooter and counting your bullets and counting your targets. Just staying focused should be enough to provide a modicum of help wherever it is needed.

I'd forget about what may be happening somewhere on your blind side. If I may say so, you seem to have everyone covered anyway :)

Writing this, I've just had a high energy cartridge-shaped battery fall over of its own accord just beside me - lookslike I just fired a shot ;)

Well, it's obvious to me you have never been in a "witch" war. Intention and attention play key roles in how things happen. People are much more powerful than they give themselves credit for, and being distracted by a little trash can fire can keep one from noticing the inferno blazing elsewhere or about the be set afire

Absolutely.

I'm still..as I said back with the Whole Charles affair..I'm staying on target. No matter what runner comes flying into the camp with news about any given situation....

....I'm still sitting in the camp, sharpening my sword.

Stay on target.

* * *

The USA's indefinite detention bill just went forward, what, yesterday?


I don’t disagree with you guys. Do it your way. If you can get Ron Paul into the White House, then go for it!

However that is a very diffuse target. You have millions of voters using Diebold machines to sway, and a media blackout to overcome, etc etc.

Also, once your man is in, he may find himself powerless to act. He is going to need help all the way.

Also, this strikes me as a very American solution to a global problem.

Why was the Charles thing a distraction? Because while preaching action he was making sure nothing got done.

Why is the Wilcock/Fulford affair not a distraction? Because it has created a specific focus for action, namely one lawsuit, and the outcome of this single issue will have truly colossal planetwide repercussions.

You are right, I am no witch, but if I had just one choice of a place to push, this would be it.

[transiten]

I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

[spiritguide]

IRS report on the Obamas being filed.....another piece to the deflation of the cabals.

http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/

No place to run and no place to hide!

:peace:

[YvonneG]

I was very touched to hear David cry...still listening. Thank you Kerry for interviewing him...

much love
yvonne

[RMorgan]

I'm calling BS on Fulford's backstory. The klaxons started blaring when he said that 600 bankers went down with the Titanic, and that they were set up by JP Morgan. It is true that Morgan chose not to board at the last minute...

BUT, There were a total of 805 men on board who were not crewembers. 175 in 1st class; 168 in 2nd class, and 462 in 3rd class.

Of these, 659 men went down with the ship. 118 in 1st class; 154 in 2nd class, and 387 in 3rd class.

Sorry the numbers just don't add up. I'm not buying it that the world's power elite, who were set to stop the formation of the Federal Reserve, were mostly booked into 3rd class, and that the ship was deliberately run into an iceberg. When Fulford is willing to state something so obviously wrong, and that anyone with a computer can check for themselves, and when Wilcock is ready to swallow this hook, line, and sinker: It makes the entire story into a joke. I am not even going to waste my time fact checking the rest of it.

And I said it elsewhere, ANYONE can file a lawsuit, based on ANYTHING, naming WHOMEVER they want as defendants. All it takes is the payment of a nominal filing fee.

If I was so inclined, for about $10, I could file a lawsuit against the Vatican, on behalf of Catholics everywhere, for the return of all of the tithes paid over the last 1600 years, because they lied to us about Aliens.

Filing a lawsuit doesn't make it true, meritorious, or even sensible.

It's this kind of crap that makes the vast majority of the populace dismiss the alternative community as a bunch of tin foil hat wearing crackpots. ARGHHHHH!

I agree absolutely. Just a lawsuit, by itself, doesn´t prove anything.

Now, IF the this lawsuit is successful, it will prove something indeed, but until there, it´s just a lawsuit, like any of the other millions of ongoing lawsuits.

Lets not allow ourselves to be carried out by sensationalism.

Cheers,

Raf.

[9eagle9]

What is there to be afraid of? What is the actual authentic fear here? It's based on ....what? We know that something has been 'done' but what is actually being told here?

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

"The meak shall inherit the earth"


They already did....lol. And apparently the meek just told David Wilcox they were going to kill him.

[joedjemal]

I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

I wasn't disrespecting his fear, I don't believe his fear is real. I think it's manipulation and I do not respect that.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.


Not only that, it is a sign of an effective and functioning energy system. One of my own Teacher's strengths is her ability to cry easily, to process the energy of the emotion, and then to let it go. It passes through like a breeze. Far from week, she is a very accomplished martial artist with more courage than anyone i know. She is rock. Her ability to process emotion is a strength. I am often jealous of her ability to access, process, and release emotion. I think anyone who thinks tears are a sign of weakness has much to learn.

Now I will get
:focus:

[Unified Serenity]

Well ... 8:15 am in DW's time zone and still no promised update for "Part 2".

Thought he was pulling an "all nighter" since so much for him personally depended on it (and that could still be the case).

Could be he was simply exhausted and figured his message got out to enough people with Kerry's radio spot ... and with assurance of "protection" that he is sleeping and will update later.

Don't want to add any energy to any other "possibility" at this point.

Be well David.

Yes, well for someone scared to the point he was crying and ready to wet his pants last night, and Kerry stating getting the truth out is the best protection it does not suit me well that he has not posted what he said he had already submitted for review. I'm sure we with baited breath will click his site over and over looking for the update, talking about DW et al and quite frankly I lose interest.

We know there are money games, power plays on the big boys side. I won't be holding my breath, but I will read part II whenever he chooses to bless us with his insights and super duper secret society update and investigation. Yes, I do have a bit of sarcasm here, but I get tired of games or seeming to appear as something less than what it is.

[transiten]

What is there to be afraid of? What is the actual authentic fear here? It's based on ....what? We know that something has been 'done' but what is actually being told here?

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

"The meak shall inherit the earth"


They already did....lol. And apparently the meek just told David Wilcox they were going to kill him.

Wilcock if a may....And who are you to tell someone who thinks, feels and experiences a death threat even if it's not true that there's nothing to be afraid of??????

¤=[Post Update]=¤




I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

I wasn't disrespecting his fear, I don't believe his fear is real. I think it's manipulation and I do not respect that.


So David has not the right to feel fear because he is manipulated?????

[Calz]

I wasn't disrespecting his fear, I don't believe his fear is real. I think it's manipulation and I do not respect that.

I have followed DW's work ever since he came up with the material documenting "energetic/climate change" on all the planets in the solar system.

I found his "fear" rather "palpable". That in itself was interesting because he has always been so quick to shrug off death. Perhaps the threat of torture was not something he had invisioned for himself???

[Unified Serenity]

Courage is having fear and going forward with honor anyway. Speaking the truth in love despite the possible negative outcome. I've done it all my life, I've been threatened on more than one occaision. Trust me, if you think you can stand for truth, speak your truth and not be on someone's list you are naive. My name is on a list. My phone has been tapped, I have been followed in America and Europe. I've had the FBI photographing me and others at meetings in the past. Do not incite violence, yell fire in a theatre and stand your ground in truth. If they come and take you away, stand your ground and if they want to kill me, so what. Death is just another doorway, and I'll continue on my path.

I am not wishing to die, I am not trying to incite violence, but I won't sit back and not deliver. Let's see when DW posts his part II update. I am not impressed thus far. Cry, moan, seek advice, stand.... it doesn't matter to me. If you feel driven to be a mouthpiece for truth, expect some hard knocks and threats.



I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

[Lazlo]

I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.
To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

I agree with your definition of courage. However,

For anyone who has ever been faced with a truly life-threatening situation, they know that the difference between life and death is how you deal with the fear. (Unless you're just plain lucky)

Someone who breaks down in a quivering bowl of jelly when up against the wall will just get themselves and those around them killed. There is plenty of time for the emotional release and cleansing, AFTER the danger has passed.

[joedjemal]

What is there to be afraid of? What is the actual authentic fear here? It's based on ....what? We know that something has been 'done' but what is actually being told here?

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

"The meak shall inherit the earth"


They already did....lol. And apparently the meek just told David Wilcox they were going to kill him.

Wilcock if a may....And who are you to tell someone who thinks, feels and experiences a death threat even if it's not true that there's nothing to be afraid of??????

¤=[Post Update]=¤




I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

I wasn't disrespecting his fear, I don't believe his fear is real. I think it's manipulation and I do not respect that.


So David has not the right to feel fear because he is manipulated?????


You misunderstand. I do not believe he feels any fear about this at all because I think the whole thing is nothing more than manipulative invention. When I see HARD evidence I will apologise.

[jaybee]

Well ... 8:15 am in DW's time zone and still no promised update for "Part 2".

Thought he was pulling an "all nighter" since so much for him personally depended on it (and that could still be the case).

Could be he was simply exhausted and figured his message got out to enough people with Kerry's radio spot ... and with assurance of "protection" that he is sleeping and will update later.

Don't want to add any energy to any other "possibility" at this point.

Be well David.

Yes, well for someone scared to the point he was crying and ready to wet his pants last night, and Kerry stating getting the truth out is the best protection it does not suit me well that he has not posted what he said he had already submitted for review. I'm sure we with baited breath will click his site over and over looking for the update, talking about DW et al and quite frankly I lose interest.

We know there are money games, power plays on the big boys side. I won't be holding my breath, but I will read part II whenever he chooses to bless us with his insights and super duper secret society update and investigation. Yes, I do have a bit of sarcasm here, but I get tired of games or seeming to appear as something less than what it is.


If that's you with a 'bit' of sarcasm...I'd hate to see you with a LOT.....:p


How about some empathy and compassion for the MAN...that is David Wilcock...

I expect he's very drained and tired....but doing his best under the circumstances.


cheers

[DreamsInDigital]

Like I mentioned in the other thread, I definitely among the rest of you felt a serious energy shift yesterday, that final reassurance I needed (and didn't even know I did) that we , the ones that tell the truth and never compromise are protected and everything really is going to be okay. It was one of the most profound experiences I've had in a long time that I can remember. It will be us champions for the truth, that will rule the day that the Cabal are hung on the steps of the Nations Capital.

[Calz]

Rather remarkable change in energy here on this thread from those who experienced it and those right now (save for unified who was here during the broadcast).

Not sure what to make of that ... not going to lose any sleep over it cuz ... it is my time :sleep:

[Unified Serenity]

Well ... 8:15 am in DW's time zone and still no promised update for "Part 2".

Thought he was pulling an "all nighter" since so much for him personally depended on it (and that could still be the case).

Could be he was simply exhausted and figured his message got out to enough people with Kerry's radio spot ... and with assurance of "protection" that he is sleeping and will update later.

Don't want to add any energy to any other "possibility" at this point.

Be well David.

Yes, well for someone scared to the point he was crying and ready to wet his pants last night, and Kerry stating getting the truth out is the best protection it does not suit me well that he has not posted what he said he had already submitted for review. I'm sure we with baited breath will click his site over and over looking for the update, talking about DW et al and quite frankly I lose interest.

We know there are money games, power plays on the big boys side. I won't be holding my breath, but I will read part II whenever he chooses to bless us with his insights and super duper secret society update and investigation. Yes, I do have a bit of sarcasm here, but I get tired of games or seeming to appear as something less than what it is.


If that's you with a 'bit' of sarcasm...I'd hate to see you with a LOT.....:p


How about some empathy and compassion for the MAN...that is David Wilcock...

I expect he's very drained and tired....but doing his best under the circumstances.


cheers

Look, he chose to put himself in the limelight. Speaking about this stuff comes with risks or didn't DW notice that somewhere along the line? It reminds me of celebrities getting their panties all in a wad because people want their autograph and picture. Oh, they're happy to make millions a year doing films, but "I vant to be alone" just doesn't fly.

He was given good advice last night. He has great protection with international exposure of this alleged threat. It would be pretty stupid to off the guy now. I thought he was evolved. He should be ready to check out at any breath and be at peace. I never said he was wrong to feel emotion, so don't lay that on me. I also said, if he were genuinly that scared and a top dog tells him to get the truth out ASAP and he says, "OK" and basically says he has written part II and it was being reviewed and he was told to not name names, then what the hell is taking so long?

I don't know what's taking so long. I know I'd be getting the info out there PDQ.

I am a scorpio through and through and I guess it shows as lack of compassion. You will never find a more compassionate caring person than I am, but I also believe in walk the walk, put up or shut up, and when someone comes into my house and threatens me they better not bring a knife to a gun fight. I don't look to fight fair, I look to finish the confrontation with the least necessary force possible. If my best offense is to get the truth out there, he has been given center stage and everyone is clicking his site to read it. Strike while the iron is hot. He can amend things later, but he knows what he knows now, and it's up to him to publish it. End of story.

[9eagle9]

I didn't ask about Davi'ds rights, I asked what is there to fear here?

David should understand if he wants to play the game the death threats and the whole drama that go with the game...come with the game. David is being manipulated by his own programming.

I'm sorry he's scared but ...this was his choice to give his power to events like this. We should honor fright the very mechanism that has kept us in this whole conundrum? He's fell for the game, was pushed to lay his hand down.


I understand his fright but i'm going to venerate it. What is there to be frightened of? Get the whole money, gold, and information hoarding out of the way and SEE what is being SHOWN (not told) here.

David made a choice. And knowing that that manipulation is part of the game, decided to play it anyway. He's been here in the alternative arena how long and he doesn't KNOW that manipulation is part of the game! ???!!!!

And we have the right not to be manipulated by David's fear here and yes I have had my life threatened before, where I've had actual physical entities in my house, hovering over my bed ---- and ...I'm still here to tell people it was all manipulation.

David also has the right not to be manipulated. You have the right not to be manipulated here. This isn't a matter of right (or rights) or wrongs but what is being SHOWN here. Not told. But Shown.




What is there to be afraid of? What is the actual authentic fear here? It's based on ....what? We know that something has been 'done' but what is actually being told here?

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

"The meak shall inherit the earth"


They already did....lol. And apparently the meek just told David Wilcox they were going to kill him.

Wilcock if a may....And who are you to tell someone who thinks, feels and experiences a death threat even if it's not true that there's nothing to be afraid of??????

¤=[Post Update]=¤




I was once threatened by a French security type in Brussels when I went to a sustainability forum and tried to talk about peak oil and food security (an EU thing) It was pretty scary and face to face but I didn't start blubbering, I told him that I didn't care, the issue was too important and had to be discussed. I've always felt a little uncomfortable with David Wilcox's overblown ego but this collapse into jelly because of a third hand threat really takes the cake.

Anyone can file a lawsuit, I'm yet to be impressed by any of this. The threats we face as a species are physical and absolutely real. No matter what the elite may or may not do or wish to do we're facing a dieoff of 90% of us unless there's some sort of miracle. That's what happens in nature EVERY SINGLE TIME when a species goes into overshoot just as we currently are. I'll be less sceptical of all this when we see a bit more than single source drama. Wilcock, Fulford, Zagami, the galactic federation of light, the disclosure project etc etc etc all seem to be about giving hope but there's never anything concrete, it's all vague wierd stuff with virtually nothing real behind it. I don't trust any of it and I won't until we see more hard data and less breathless drama. Sorting out where your next meal is going to come from when the cash machines stop working (an absolutely real, indeed inevitable, problem) is rather more important than worrying about bagging the illuminati.

Oh so you think it's a sign of courage not to be frightened? It's the other way around: To do what you have to do even if you're terrified.

To the three of you that have made dispiseful comments on David Wilcock i would recommend reading "Move into the Magic" by Maxime Taylor. The book is about releasing your programming from childhood. I've been raised as a boy taught not to cry whatever horrors i experienced.

I've finally learned to cry a river and I have the feeling that you guys have not had the loving support you needed when you grew up, programmed with the mantra "Big boys don't cry" using most of your energy trying to control your "weakness" since you are terrified of someone going to use it against you. As Kerry says in the end of the first interview, showing your true feelings is a sign of strenght and a passionate heart not a sign of weakness.

"The meek shall inherit the earth"

I wasn't disrespecting his fear, I don't believe his fear is real. I think it's manipulation and I do not respect that.


So David has not the right to feel fear because he is manipulated?????

[Mark]

The trick with this situation and David's cry is that it was a 'distant threat', nothing in your face so that his "fight or flight" mechanism could be triggered. For the record, I think that crying is a sign of strength rather than weakness, if it is processing emotion and moving on as someone wrote. If it interferes with doing what has to be done it is a definite weakness.

But beyond all of that, something that nobody is talking about has to do with the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly that made this entire conversation worthwhile. I said it before, I will say it again. he kept on emphasizing to Wilcock, TELL THE TRUTH. To me, when someone keeps doing that and is as close-mouthed as people of that sort of necessity are, they are really saying, We know you are prone to exxageration, BUT if you tell the FULL TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH we got your back.

I've spent as much time listening to these kinds of interviews as anyone. Another thing that stood out to me that nobody's mentioning is the RESPECT that both Kerry AND David AND her other jilted guest showed him. He shut David up a few times. He shut Kerry up a few times. They both listened respectfully when he got going. He weighed his words very carefully and they generally allowed him to take his time instead of doing like most interviewees and interviewers do (and I've heard both Kerry AND David jump in when there is a silence in other interviews) and trying to get their points across. At the end there, there was actually about 10 seconds of silence before Kerry or David tried to speak! That's unheard of! LOL

I dunno. Healthy skepticism is important, but I think that there was something to this. That something has to do with the fact that the gold issue that David is revealing is, in the long run and bigger picture, of very little importance. Also, that David has access to information that the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly and whichever White Hat group he represents is urging him in the strongest possible terms for such people who tend to say a lot with few words, to release the information and NOT to expound upon fantastically.

David is definitely serving higher purposes here and it became very clear last night that he really has no idea whose agenda he is serving or whose protection he has now fallen under. I think Kerry has a better idea because the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly was sent to her show by a mutual friend of theirs, and she did not know him previous to this show, from what I could gather from their interaction.

As ya'll said, time will tell and we'll see. Personally, I'm thinking that if we should seee some sort of movement in the MSM toward the downfall of the PTW, this legal case and some arrests - as well as potential last-gasp power grabs and violence from scared faux-elites - soon. Their ability to control the MSM is great, but once highly-placed public figures start spazzin' out, disappearing or getting arrested something is going to have to be said. Some explanation is going to be necessary.

[Ultima Thule]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

[Unified Serenity]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

You know, I love and respect the chiding and discipline of my friends much more so than my enemies. Sometimes, I need a good kick in the ass, and when a friend does it, I listen.

[RMorgan]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

Well, I don´t think it´s about enemies or friends, here. We´re truth investigators.

In my opinion, he is just a source of information, or disinformation, and as far as he doesn´t show any hard evidence of his claims, or no one disproves him, he will be a neutral character in my book.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Unified Serenity]

The trick with this situation and David's cry is that it was a 'distant threat', nothing in your face so that his "fight or flight" mechanism could be triggered. For the record, I think that crying is a sign of strength rather than weakness, if it is processing emotion and moving on as someone wrote. If it interferes with doing what has to be done it is a definite weakness.

But beyond all of that, something that nobody is talking about has to do with the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly that made this entire conversation worthwhile. I said it before, I will say it again. he kept on emphasizing to Wilcock, TELL THE TRUTH. To me, when someone keeps doing that and is as close-mouthed as people of that sort of necessity are, they are really saying, We know you are prone to exxageration, BUT if you tell the FULL TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH we got your back.

I've spent as much time listening to these kinds of interviews as anyone. Another thing that stood out to me that nobody's mentioning is the RESPECT that both Kerry AND David AND her other jilted guest showed him. He shut David up a few times. He shut Kerry up a few times. They both listened respectfully when he got going. He weighed his words very carefully and they generally allowed him to take his time instead of doing like most interviewees and interviewers do (and I've heard both Kerry AND David jump in when there is a silence in other interviews) and trying to get their points across. At the end there, there was actually about 10 seconds of silence before Kerry or David tried to speak! That's unheard of! LOL

I dunno. Healthy skepticism is important, but I think that there was something to this. That something has to do with the fact that the gold issue that David is revealing is, in the long run and bigger picture, of very little importance. Also, that David has access to information that the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly and whichever White Hat group he represents is urging him in the strongest possible terms for such people who tend to say a lot with few words, to release the information and NOT to expound upon fantastically.

David is definitely serving higher purposes here and it became very clear last night that he really has no idea whose agenda he is serving or whose protection he has now fallen under. I think Kerry has a better idea because the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly was sent to her show by a mutual friend of theirs, and she did not know him previous to this show, from what I could gather from their interaction.

As ya'll said, time will tell and we'll see. Personally, I'm thinking that if we should seee some sort of movement in the MSM toward the downfall of the PTW, this legal case and some arrests - as well as potential last-gasp power grabs and violence from scared faux-elites - soon. Their ability to control the MSM is great, but once highly-placed public figures start spazzin' out, disappearing or getting arrested something is going to have to be said. Some explanation is going to be necessary.

I agree, excellent assessment. We are on the exact same page!

[joedjemal]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I agree with your points, 9eagle9.

In defense of David-

I would just add that David's not perfect. Not even his hair. He lost faith and faltered in his resolve. He got scared and lost his sh*t. Yes, he has got himself into this situation through choices he has made and given the opportunity, would probably do the same. His oft-seeming naive optimism likely causes him to bite off more than he can understand, let alone chew. Who knows what other forms of attack he may have been under.

I don't really fault him for these things. I doubt I would do any better in the same situation. Whether we think David is always spot on or find him a well-intentioned but delusional egomaniac, I think most agree that his heart is in the right place. He has always preached hope instead of doom and gloom. When I went through two years of unemployment, his pie in the sky optimism kept me going. So I think we can be gentle with him. I wish him the best.

[jackovesk]

The trick with this situation and David's cry is that it was a 'distant threat', nothing in your face so that his "fight or flight" mechanism could be triggered. For the record, I think that crying is a sign of strength rather than weakness, if it is processing emotion and moving on as someone wrote. If it interferes with doing what has to be done it is a definite weakness.

But beyond all of that, something that nobody is talking about has to do with the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly that made this entire conversation worthwhile. I said it before, I will say it again. he kept on emphasizing to Wilcock, TELL THE TRUTH. To me, when someone keeps doing that and is as close-mouthed as people of that sort of necessity are, they are really saying, We know you are prone to exxageration, BUT if you tell the FULL TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH we got your back.

I've spent as much time listening to these kinds of interviews as anyone. Another thing that stood out to me that nobody's mentioning is the RESPECT that both Kerry AND David AND her other jilted guest showed him. He shut David up a few times. He shut Kerry up a few times. They both listened respectfully when he got going. He weighed his words very carefully and they generally allowed him to take his time instead of doing like most interviewees and interviewers do (and I've heard both Kerry AND David jump in when there is a silence in other interviews) and trying to get their points across. At the end there, there was actually about 10 seconds of silence before Kerry or David tried to speak! That's unheard of! LOL

I dunno. Healthy skepticism is important, but I think that there was something to this. That something has to do with the fact that the gold issue that David is revealing is, in the long run and bigger picture, of very little importance. Also, that David has access to information that the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly and whichever White Hat group he represents is urging him in the strongest possible terms for such people who tend to say a lot with few words, to release the information and NOT to expound upon fantastically.

David is definitely serving higher purposes here and it became very clear last night that he really has no idea whose agenda he is serving or whose protection he has now fallen under. I think Kerry has a better idea because the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly was sent to her show by a mutual friend of theirs, and she did not know him previous to this show, from what I could gather from their interaction.

As ya'll said, time will tell and we'll see. Personally, I'm thinking that if we should seee some sort of movement in the MSM toward the downfall of the PTW, this legal case and some arrests - as well as potential last-gasp power grabs and violence from scared faux-elites - soon. Their ability to control the MSM is great, but once highly-placed public figures start spazzin' out, disappearing or getting arrested something is going to have to be said. Some explanation is going to be necessary.

Excellent summation of the interview there Rahkyt,

It reminded me of some time ago when I learnt to 'Remote View'...

Clear the mind and go with your intial 'Instinct', its more reliable to pinpoint the 'Target &/or Task' with more accuracy..!

Rgs,

Jack

[9eagle9]

Personally David isn't crying because he's frightened of the boogey men... considering he's been in the alternative media long enough to know how that all works. He's gettting a clue, the real KNOWING not just what has been told or revealed, the expereince of the enormity of the game..... by having the direct experience of it. And all that that entails. The enormity of the game is what is dis-arming. In a flash you are struck like the entire universe collapsing on you on what it all entails, how many lifetimes, how many times you have to fall, all the energy that its taken over eons to play this game hits you.....that is what he's frightned of because that is more disarming than a dozen bad guys ruling the world.

[taliesin]

I truly beleive that vulnerability is strength and the ability to express one's emotions in real time, is the mark of an integrated, healed human being.

Part of DW's charm is his vulnerability, his projected innocence and naivete, the affable and intelligent geekishness of someone who has the best interest of humanity and the planet held in his heart. But this is also part of his facade. He's a good synthesiser of information and provides a good presentation motivated by integrity. And I feel in his heart his intent is genuine. Yet I also feel him to be socially intelligent and I am sure has figured out how to appeal to people's better nature. The clever boyishness, down at home, sincere good boy is also a manipulation. He is an adult who has chosen to take part in the alternative media and as such would have been aware of the risks he poses to the existing power structures. If he had stayed with the spiritual stuff and connecting the dots with ETs and ancient cultures then he would not have bee in the "firing line". I am sure David Icke et al have received countless death threats.

I am somewhat intrigued that someone of a self proclaimed spiritual maturity, a spiritual teacher, would react like this live on the air. Doesn't he himself say that death is just a transition into oneness, that there is nothing to fear. This alone shows me that he is not as developed as he proclaims, and I find his claim to be the reincarnation of EC utterly flawed in this context.

I appreciate that people feel protective of DW and for good reasons in terms of his commitment and contribution, but I think folks should wonder who is pulling who's strings here? And more importantly, why? Look at the way DW behaves and how your emotional bodies automatically react. What is really being triggered here? As the Sean Connery/Leprauchaun character kept reiterating it's about the truth.

I'm sorry to say this but it's all an archetypal parade, DW crying because one of his friends told him some of his friend's friends were going to hurt him, Kerry being Mom, The Australian posing as the off planet Irish good guy (white hat) with an accent from Brigadoon but training of Braveheart, BF being missing, kidnapped by his wife or CIA types and held in a hotel room in a resort. And then there's all this gold hidden in the Mariana trench, and looted treasure from ancient families who really want the best for the world.

As always, "follow the money" or the publicity, as publicity is money these days or as good as.

I didn't fall for the Charles stuff, I don't fall for the BF stuff and whilst I do like some of what DW says/does, this is not feeling real to me.

Le Gra agus Beannachtai,

xxx T

[Khaleesi]

Personally David isn't crying because he's frightened of the boogey men... considering he's been in the alternative media long enough to know how that all works. He's gettting a clue, the real KNOWING not just what has been told or revealed, the expereince of the enormity of the game..... by having the direct experience of it. And all that that entails. The enormity of the game is what is dis-arming. In a flash you are struck like the entire universe collapsing on you on what it all entails, how many lifetimes, how many times you have to fall, all the energy that its taken over eons to play this game hits you.....that is what he's frightned of because that is more disarming than a dozen bad guys ruling the world.

Personally, I believe DW is frighten. It doesn't matter if he is 'frightened of the boogey men' or if the 'enormity of the game' finally came into focus. It just doesn't matter to me how you define the fear. My problem is .... How could he not realize there are 'boogey men' or the enormity of the game? From past events, we know there are people/entities out there willing to threaten harm and do actual harm. Just look at the number of people that have disappeared or died mysteriously. This is the equivalent of starting to disarm a bomb and realizing half way through that it is dangerous because you just watched your neighbor get blown to smithereens yesterday doing the same thing.

[Mark]

II am somewhat intrigued that someone of a self proclaimed spiritual maturity, a spiritual teacher, would react like this live on the air. Doesn't he himself say that death is just a transition into oneness, that there is nothing to fear. This alone shows me that he is not as developed as he proclaims, and I find his claim to be the reincarnation of EC utterly flawed in this context.

That thought did run through my mind as well, only pertaining to his supposed higher state of evolved BEingness. He did qualify his sensitivity by speaking of the Astrological alignments that we have all been feeling lately and that we should all know have been particularly intense, especially upon the emotional front in the dealing with internal ìssues`of whatever origin. The fact that David is human and that he has finally come face to face with the consequences of his stances and whistle-blowing activities does not automatically negate the importance of the information. As I stated in my previous post it wasn`t the `biggest secret`that David revealed, i.e. the apparently limitless amount of gold there is, but the higher implications of his interaction with the Anomaly. If you disregard the importance of the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly or you think that the sparse information he shared about what was going on and what the future might hold, then yes, I would agree that all of this would seem like a tempest in a tea kettle. Frankly, if it were not for the Anomaly, I would have had a very negative response to this interview.

David`s speaking of this gold as if it was the biggest secret in the world, which he actually said it was, didn`t sit well with me, maybe because I already knew about the gold in Asia from my own personal contacts and research. But, again, even though the interview started out being about David, it became about much more with the entry of the Anomaly into the picture. The final mission-statement that David offered speaking of humanity`s future was, again - as was much of what he said - rejected by the Anomaly as being `high ideals`but, the implication was, misguided and airy-fairy. There are problems ahead. The PTW aren`t going to go willingly, it seems. Hopefully, David internalizes what he learned about himself last night and his place in the bigger picture. It would serve him well in the future.

And maybe he`ll finally realize that his self-promotion and money-grubbing is harming him more than it is helping him in the eyes of those who are watching him very carefully.

[jaybee]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

Well said, thankyou.

It's pretty clear who David's friends are on this thread.

And who aren't.

I expect this thread is being monitored closely by his 'enemies'....to see how well the campaign against him is going....from within and from without.

The stakes are high...we should expect no less.


message to David's enemies


olgQnSSXwlc


friends and enemies.....GROUPHUG....c'mon :cool:;)


:grouphug:


LOL



.

[9eagle9]

Well I'm sure it's real to him, we all have our subjective reality. For a psychic that remains in observer mode and then suddenly placed as the subject....Turmoil is an understatement but we all have our subjective reality that we must endure till it breaks and our true reality, our true self is allowed to step out from behind the role. And it is the singlemost traumatic event that a psychic or an intuitive will endure but once what it shows you has been fully processed one needn't endure it anymore.

Some have endured it in public, with the sympathyh of the public, and some have endured in silent reflection, thier lives coming and going without ever being known.

and this can be a tempering experience for him. When one's real power and authority expresses itself without the interference of the emotions and the mind, and you are pushed aside to make your stand....or fall for the mind trap. It is what it is and I'm sorry that humanity has come to having to experience this but it must be experienced in order to know. Becaues I will say it unil my overburdened guts spill out onto the hot pavement to sizzle ......People have to be shown, not tol.d And no one is excluded.

regardless of what he does from this point on he will never be same. If he is the same, I'd have to say the experience didn't serve him well or he didn't serve it depending on how one wants to look at it. Life does not go on the same way--- ever--- after an experience like this.

When one's belief system what they THOUGHT it would do to serve them, to protect them, breaks down, and the whole trauma, mind loop destruction of our existence on this plane comes crashing in.......well its like God denying you. And its a individual re-enactment of the collective psyche trauma we all were once subjected to. But it was the thought, the belief, the game that broke down.

[truth4me]

Well ... 8:15 am in DW's time zone and still no promised update for "Part 2".

Thought he was pulling an "all nighter" since so much for him personally depended on it (and that could still be the case).

Could be he was simply exhausted and figured his message got out to enough people with Kerry's radio spot ... and with assurance of "protection" that he is sleeping and will update later.

Don't want to add any energy to any other "possibility" at this point.

Be well David.

Yes, well for someone scared to the point he was crying and ready to wet his pants last night, and Kerry stating getting the truth out is the best protection it does not suit me well that he has not posted what he said he had already submitted for review. I'm sure we with baited breath will click his site over and over looking for the update, talking about DW et al and quite frankly I lose interest.

We know there are money games, power plays on the big boys side. I won't be holding my breath, but I will read part II whenever he chooses to bless us with his insights and super duper secret society update and investigation. Yes, I do have a bit of sarcasm here, but I get tired of games or seeming to appear as something less than what it is.


If that's you with a 'bit' of sarcasm...I'd hate to see you with a LOT.....:p


How about some empathy and compassion for the MAN...that is David Wilcock...

I expect he's very drained and tired....but doing his best under the circumstances.


cheers

Look, he chose to put himself in the limelight. Speaking about this stuff comes with risks or didn't DW notice that somewhere along the line? It reminds me of celebrities getting their panties all in a wad because people want their autograph and picture. Oh, they're happy to make millions a year doing films, but "I vant to be alone" just doesn't fly.

He was given good advice last night. He has great protection with international exposure of this alleged threat. It would be pretty stupid to off the guy now. I thought he was evolved. He should be ready to check out at any breath and be at peace. I never said he was wrong to feel emotion, so don't lay that on me. I also said, if he were genuinly that scared and a top dog tells him to get the truth out ASAP and he says, "OK" and basically says he has written part II and it was being reviewed and he was told to not name names, then what the hell is taking so long?

I don't know what's taking so long. I know I'd be getting the info out there PDQ.

I am a scorpio through and through and I guess it shows as lack of compassion. You will never find a more compassionate caring person than I am, but I also believe in walk the walk, put up or shut up, and when someone comes into my house and threatens me they better not bring a knife to a gun fight. I don't look to fight fair, I look to finish the confrontation with the least necessary force possible. If my best offense is to get the truth out there, he has been given center stage and everyone is clicking his site to read it. Strike while the iron is hot. He can amend things later, but he knows what he knows now, and it's up to him to publish it. End of story.Why don't you tell us how you really feel? Don't be mad just a joke. Seriously though, you are right. When you put yourself in the limelight you get what comes with it being praise or criticism. You have to be able to stand up to both for they both have different types of pressure. If the threat was/is real then he's hitting someone or thing very hard and they are fighting back. Tell the whole story and we see who holds the winning hand when it's done......

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Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

Well why don't you step up tp the plate and do the job yourself then?

[ThePythonicCow]

I guess it was not just alternative news flakes listening last night. Of course, this could just be a coincidence.
The main drop in the price of gold of this last week was a little over 24 hours ago now, the morning of Weds Dec 14 New York time, from the $1630's early yesterday morning, to the $1570's by mid-day. (As I write this, it is mid-afternoon on Thursday, Dec 15, New York time.)

This was well before any of us here, to my knowledge, were aware that these events of half a day ago with David Wilcock were going to happen.

This was not a particularly large change for gold, which has become more volatile in the last few months. The biggest drop of late was in late Sept 2011, from $1800/oz to $1600/oz.

[cellardoor]

Personally David isn't crying because he's frightened of the boogey men... considering he's been in the alternative media long enough to know how that all works. He's gettting a clue, the real KNOWING not just what has been told or revealed, the expereince of the enormity of the game..... by having the direct experience of it. And all that that entails. The enormity of the game is what is dis-arming. In a flash you are struck like the entire universe collapsing on you on what it all entails, how many lifetimes, how many times you have to fall, all the energy that its taken over eons to play this game hits you.....that is what he's frightned of because that is more disarming than a dozen bad guys ruling the world.

Couldn't it just be as simple as David is crying because he's scared of having his skin peeled off or being burned to death, being brain washed, the real threat was torcher, I'm sure David has the courage to die if it was just a case of being shot in the head or somthing reletivly painless, but to go through torcher I'm sure is terrifying. if you or any of us were in the same position would we be so flippent as to call this a game. I see a massive lack of empathy in some peoples posts here. Give the guy a break he deserves it. I know bill has been quick to deny Davids claimes but show us that proof. All we have is your word against his. That goes for every harsh comment posted today. Have anyone of you put in the work and commitment David has for the last 11 years? Has anyone even bothered to call the law firm involved in the story to find out if it's true. Well I have and I can assure you this is not a hoax these are real people with real motives. 9eagal9 I remember a while back you were slating david I understand this story could undermine things you have said about him in the past, I think you should grab yourself a piece of humble pie and a cup of tea and cut David some slack. Maby do some proper research into the Lawsuit, it might surprise you.
Blessings

[Franny]

Good points Rahkyt and I tend to agree. Kerryʻs admitted style is to interrupt but she was all respectful ears while Anon spoke as was DW. He did not just show up, she invited him, she knows him and who he is and whom he represents - or as much as she was told. Or else he contacted her in order to speak, not only with DW, but with the audience. Either way, Kerry knows Anon. He, whoever he is, wanted this information to be widely disseminated.

It seems to me that he has been around and has the ability to pull up an accent or 3 and use them. (I pick up accents and local idioms very quickly and can seem like a local in a few days, as can many.) Heʻs apparently altering his accent to disguise his identity at least a little -- if that can actually be done with the present technology.

If he is what he implies, it could get very interesting. The price of gold dropping today leaves us with more questions and adds to the intrigue.

Maybe it is deja vu all over again and it is another fake insider episode. But maybe Kerry dug up a real known insider to deal with a real situation. Not a significant one in his estimation, but real enough that he showed up for the interview.


But beyond all of that, something that nobody is talking about has to do with the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly that made this entire conversation worthwhile. I said it before, I will say it again. he kept on emphasizing to Wilcock, TELL THE TRUTH. To me, when someone keeps doing that and is as close-mouthed as people of that sort of necessity are, they are really saying, We know you are prone to exxageration, BUT if you tell the FULL TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH we got your back.

I've spent as much time listening to these kinds of interviews as anyone. Another thing that stood out to me that nobody's mentioning is the RESPECT that both Kerry AND David AND her other jilted guest showed him. He shut David up a few times. He shut Kerry up a few times. They both listened respectfully when he got going. He weighed his words very carefully and they generally allowed him to take his time instead of doing like most interviewees and interviewers do (and I've heard both Kerry AND David jump in when there is a silence in other interviews) and trying to get their points across. At the end there, there was actually about 10 seconds of silence before Kerry or David tried to speak! That's unheard of! LOL

[Little Ishta]

The trick with this situation and David's cry is that it was a 'distant threat', nothing in your face so that his "fight or flight" mechanism could be triggered. For the record, I think that crying is a sign of strength rather than weakness, if it is processing emotion and moving on as someone wrote. If it interferes with doing what has to be done it is a definite weakness.

But beyond all of that, something that nobody is talking about has to do with the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly that made this entire conversation worthwhile. I said it before, I will say it again. he kept on emphasizing to Wilcock, TELL THE TRUTH. To me, when someone keeps doing that and is as close-mouthed as people of that sort of necessity are, they are really saying, We know you are prone to exxageration, BUT if you tell the FULL TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH we got your back.

I've spent as much time listening to these kinds of interviews as anyone. Another thing that stood out to me that nobody's mentioning is the RESPECT that both Kerry AND David AND her other jilted guest showed him. He shut David up a few times. He shut Kerry up a few times. They both listened respectfully when he got going. He weighed his words very carefully and they generally allowed him to take his time instead of doing like most interviewees and interviewers do (and I've heard both Kerry AND David jump in when there is a silence in other interviews) and trying to get their points across. At the end there, there was actually about 10 seconds of silence before Kerry or David tried to speak! That's unheard of! LOL

I dunno. Healthy skepticism is important, but I think that there was something to this. That something has to do with the fact that the gold issue that David is revealing is, in the long run and bigger picture, of very little importance. Also, that David has access to information that the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly and whichever White Hat group he represents is urging him in the strongest possible terms for such people who tend to say a lot with few words, to release the information and NOT to expound upon fantastically.

David is definitely serving higher purposes here and it became very clear last night that he really has no idea whose agenda he is serving or whose protection he has now fallen under. I think Kerry has a better idea because the Fake-Irish/Scottish/S. African 4D Offplanet Energetic Anomoly was sent to her show by a mutual friend of theirs, and she did not know him previous to this show, from what I could gather from their interaction.

As ya'll said, time will tell and we'll see. Personally, I'm thinking that if we should seee some sort of movement in the MSM toward the downfall of the PTW, this legal case and some arrests - as well as potential last-gasp power grabs and violence from scared faux-elites - soon. Their ability to control the MSM is great, but once highly-placed public figures start spazzin' out, disappearing or getting arrested something is going to have to be said. Some explanation is going to be necessary.

I agree, excellent assessment. We are on the exact same page!

After listening to this last night and again today I still get that strange vibe from Anon. His voice kept changing, so yes I agree it is a fake accent. Several fakes ones at that. This Anon blew everyone away, including me. Flabbergasted? Yes! He certainly is an offplanet energetic Anomoly!! Should be interesting days ahead of us.

[transiten]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT



I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

Well you are free to step up to the plate and do the job!

[joedjemal]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

Well why don't you step up tp the plate and do the job yourself then?

I've spent my entire adult life working for a better future, I dug tunnels and built tree houses to protect forests, I tried working within the system to change things like when I went to Brussels and had 2 days of direct
Intimidation from the security forces, I've created self sufficiency gardens, taught countless people how to feed themselves, stood against lines of riot police in protests, read for tens of thousands of hours to understand what was happening, there's a lot more but I think you get the point that I haven't been idle. What I didn't do was stand in the spotlight and scream LOOK AT ME!!!

How about you?

[truth4me]

I truly beleive that vulnerability is strength and the ability to express one's emotions in real time, is the mark of an integrated, healed human being.

Part of DW's charm is his vulnerability, his projected innocence and naivete, the affable and intelligent geekishness of someone who has the best interest of humanity and the planet held in his heart. But this is also part of his facade. He's a good synthesiser of information and provides a good presentation motivated by integrity. And I feel in his heart his intent is genuine. Yet I also feel him to be socially intelligent and I am sure has figured out how to appeal to people's better nature. The clever boyishness, down at home, sincere good boy is also a manipulation. He is an adult who has chosen to take part in the alternative media and as such would have been aware of the risks he poses to the existing power structures. If he had stayed with the spiritual stuff and connecting the dots with ETs and ancient cultures then he would not have bee in the "firing line". I am sure David Icke et al have received countless death threats.

I am somewhat intrigued that someone of a self proclaimed spiritual maturity, a spiritual teacher, would react like this live on the air. Doesn't he himself say that death is just a transition into oneness, that there is nothing to fear. This alone shows me that he is not as developed as he proclaims, and I find his claim to be the reincarnation of EC utterly flawed in this context.

I appreciate that people feel protective of DW and for good reasons in terms of his commitment and contribution, but I think folks should wonder who is pulling who's strings here? And more importantly, why? Look at the way DW behaves and how your emotional bodies automatically react. What is really being triggered here? As the Sean Connery/Leprauchaun character kept reiterating it's about the truth.

I'm sorry to say this but it's all an archetypal parade, DW crying because one of his friends told him some of his friend's friends were going to hurt him, Kerry being Mom, The Australian posing as the off planet Irish good guy (white hat) with an accent from Brigadoon but training of Braveheart, BF being missing, kidnapped by his wife or CIA types and held in a hotel room in a resort. And then there's all this gold hidden in the Mariana trench, and looted treasure from ancient families who really want the best for the world.

As always, "follow the money" or the publicity, as publicity is money these days or as good as.

I didn't fall for the Charles stuff, I don't fall for the BF stuff and whilst I do like some of what DW says/does, this is not feeling real to me.

Le Gra agus Beannachtai,

xxx TAfter having awhile to think about it. It all comes down to this. Believe nothing and question any information no matter if it comes from Wilcock or Bill Ryan or Kerry.
I like all the above and they all have great interviews but still if the information doesn't resonate within me I throw it out no matter where it came from......

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Personally David isn't crying because he's frightened of the boogey men... considering he's been in the alternative media long enough to know how that all works. He's gettting a clue, the real KNOWING not just what has been told or revealed, the expereince of the enormity of the game..... by having the direct experience of it. And all that that entails. The enormity of the game is what is dis-arming. In a flash you are struck like the entire universe collapsing on you on what it all entails, how many lifetimes, how many times you have to fall, all the energy that its taken over eons to play this game hits you.....that is what he's frightned of because that is more disarming than a dozen bad guys ruling the world.

Couldn't it just be as simple as David is crying because he's scared of having his skin peeled off or being burned to death, being brain washed, the real threat was torcher, I'm sure David has the courage to die if it was just a case of being shot in the head or somthing reletivly painless, but to go through torcher I'm sure is terrifying. if you or any of us were in the same position would we be so flippent as to call this a game. I see a massive lack of empathy in some peoples posts here. Give the guy a break he deserves it. I know bill has been quick to deny Davids claimes but show us that proof. All we have is your word against his. That goes for every harsh comment posted today. Have anyone of you put in the work and commitment David has for the last 11 years? Has anyone even bothered to call the law firm involved in the story to find out if it's true. Well I have and I can assure you this is not a hoax these are real people with real motives. 9eagal9 I remember a while back you were slating david I understand this story could undermine things you have said about him in the past, I think you should grab yourself a piece of humble pie and a cup of tea and cut David some slack. Maby do some proper research into the Lawsuit, it might surprise you.
Blessings

Thankyou cellardoor

That cellardoor leads to one's shadowside and has to be examined, scrutinized, acknowledged integrated and loved. It's not just about politics, being perfect, what you "ought to know before you engage in the game". It's about "Here and Now" "finding the love in the monent" and i can't imgaine the demands some are making upon their fellow humans.

[9eagle9]

And this is more division of the game, I didn't see anyone here was happy this occurred or felt he deserved this and if they do that's their crap they'll have to contend with since they created it. It is what it is, and defining friends and enemies of David's is just laying another round of the game.

The people in this forum (and elseswhere) who have experienced this sort of thing for themselves are going to know more about what he's going through and place it in a sort of perspective from that stand point, and they can be viewed as the enemy as opposed to his 'friends' who may never have this sort of experience, yet symphathise because its easy to do so from a distance without ever having the experience.

Sorting out friends and enermies is just re arming the game, pointing out who is bad and who is good is just more taking sides . More commitment to keep the ball in play.


I find the circumstnaces troubling, not fear making, but troubling as its just more walking in circles.... but know the worst thing I could do for anyone in this position is to self identify with it. Feed it.

People who have experienced this sort of thing won't go there. But that doesn't mean DW is their enemy. Why would he be? Understand that whomever issued this threat regardless of how much merit it has, is the person who made the enemy of David. Not us here commenting on David we are observing the mechanics of the game once again, and the roles we assume, and the friends and the enemies and the stakes and the money in the pot. Observing the game and realizing its a game, is what causes the game to implode.

The game isn't personal, it involves all. I suggest for our part we don't make it personal to ourselves or him.

They percieved David as their enemy and David reacted as if they were the enemy.

A game cannot be played unless there is an opponent, if there is no opponent present once has to be created. Then David agreed to it. And for my part the best I can do for David is say, "Don't agree to this."

Putting things into a another perspective, shifting our perceptions of things that are 'seemingly' occuring is how we tunnel our way out of the jail.



Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

Well said, thankyou.

It's pretty clear who David's friends are on this thread.

And who aren't.

I expect this thread is being monitored closely by his 'enemies'....to see how well the campaign against him is going....from within and from without.

The stakes are high...we should expect no less.


message to David's enemies


olgQnSSXwlc


friends and enemies.....GROUPHUG....c'mon :cool:;)


:grouphug:


LOL



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[aranuk]

▌David Lives On▐
¶►To all of Us, We are one in our Love of Life (Davis's Included) and we are the mmost powerful Force on this planet. I shall comment to each of you:
First of all to DAvid; you are producing something (motre) of value. You set out to make a point with this production. Don't loose sight of that purpose, nor compromise your thuroughness. You are a Dragon Killer, Slay On. Beidand! (a very ancient Celtic word meaning Never Surrender Your Will--Sir William Wallace).
¶►Instead of fear regard this as encouragement from one 'lowly' soul who deeply wants to see your next work--Give it to 'em with all your gusto. Beidand!
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Derek, Thank you.
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Whiskey_Mystic, And to others as well, We must always remember that we are CREATING ENDLESSLY. Every breath we draw fires a breath of Creation into reality. So let us see david's next work fulfilled, produced, and spreading like like Heavens Fire across this globe. Let us see us all out-living, everything else. I am 70 and paln on living atleast to 127, David will live long past me, and likely see the next century rollover 2200.
¶►We are to stay focused on what we are creating. IAnd later I can give you a very clear picture to visualize and focus upon.
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whenyournex2me, Sir, you are on the right track, but I would pull the part about a bus. It might become your own.
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White Feather, I stand with you, I creat this experience; Our Love encompasses the whole.
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New Dawn, You have a profound name and a beautiful image. Follow that. Become the Light Dawning.
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Go Dorothy Go <LOL>
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aranuk, Let's include sending David (Dorothy) our docus and intention that his next work be his most Enlightened piece yet. Light neads no protection from darkness.
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Ruminate, There's a good word for backing up the creative process. Ruminate on facets of the diamond you are creating. So How about we each imagine some facets of the Long Life of all of us, (David will get caught up in the up-draft) and th e wonderful world ahead which we are creating.
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JayBee, Good Image. That says it all. Burn Shine baby shine.
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Let's each write a dozen or so projects we would like to see David Wilcock produce after he completes this one. and t hen spend a hundred years or so visiting everyone on earth, discussing his works and words.
¶►This would create a great Loving surge of energy supporting Daivid for a long time to come and all of us to boot.
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bodhii71, Just before I started writing this line to you all, I checked in on these things, and David is threatened, but the shadow energies did not reach him. It is not his time.
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William Wallace
aka Candor

From one Scotsman to another Candor. Remember Beidand!

Gregalach

Stan

[9eagle9]

Because we , like David, are responding to the fear thought of torture, not the reality of .

I'm sure that is torture all on it's own because of the loss of power that thought intiates. Now he's experecing mental and emotional torture over the implied threat of physical. Because David is not experiencing actual on-the-rack torture at this moment, being pulled to peices...they don't have to do that when they know the response to the threat of implied torture will serve their purpose. It makes you forget what you know and one replaces it with thoughts.

David take your own advice and come back into and ask yourself what is actually occuring at this moment. Not actual torture but the thought of future torture. And that is what he's reacting to. We are always just reacting to the past and the future. How they've always played the game.

Thoughts.





Personally David isn't crying because he's frightened of the boogey men... considering he's been in the alternative media long enough to know how that all works. He's gettting a clue, the real KNOWING not just what has been told or revealed, the expereince of the enormity of the game..... by having the direct experience of it. And all that that entails. The enormity of the game is what is dis-arming. In a flash you are struck like the entire universe collapsing on you on what it all entails, how many lifetimes, how many times you have to fall, all the energy that its taken over eons to play this game hits you.....that is what he's frightned of because that is more disarming than a dozen bad guys ruling the world.

Couldn't it just be as simple as David is crying because he's scared of having his skin peeled off or being burned to death, being brain washed, the real threat was torcher, I'm sure David has the courage to die if it was just a case of being shot in the head or somthing reletivly painless, but to go through torcher I'm sure is terrifying. if you or any of us were in the same position would we be so flippent as to call this a game. I see a massive lack of empathy in some peoples posts here. Give the guy a break he deserves it. I know bill has been quick to deny Davids claimes but show us that proof. All we have is your word against his. That goes for every harsh comment posted today. Have anyone of you put in the work and commitment David has for the last 11 years? Has anyone even bothered to call the law firm involved in the story to find out if it's true. Well I have and I can assure you this is not a hoax these are real people with real motives. 9eagal9 I remember a while back you were slating david I understand this story could undermine things you have said about him in the past, I think you should grab yourself a piece of humble pie and a cup of tea and cut David some slack. Maby do some proper research into the Lawsuit, it might surprise you.
Blessings

Thankyou cellardoor

That cellardoor leads to one's shadowside and has to be examined, scrutinized, acknowledged integrated and loved. It's not just about politics, being perfect, what you "ought to know before you engage in the game". It's about "Here and Now" "finding the love in the monent" and i can't imgaine the demands some are making upon their fellow humans.

[transiten]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

Well why don't you step up tp the plate and do the job yourself then?

I've spent my entire adult life working for a better future, I dug tunnels and built tree houses to protect forests, I tried working within the system to change things like when I went to Brussels and had 2 days of direct
Intimidation from the security forces, I've created self sufficiency gardens, taught countless people how to feed themselves, stood against lines of riot police in protests, read for tens of thousands of hours to understand what was happening, there's a lot more but I think you get the point that I haven't been idle. What I didn't do was stand in the spotlight and scream LOOK AT ME!!!

How about you?

Well i don't think you would understand the hellish experiences i've been through after being brainwashed by a psychopath guru and mistreated by a the-rapist but like you i've been in the alternative green movement, went to a school in sustainable lifestyle, been a "protestsinger" made myself "impossible" by touring the tradeunions delivering unpopular ideas about our current system, the infiltration of corporations in our governments, writning system critical songs performing on TV, working against the Swedish membership of the EU, singing for disabled, old pple, young pple, peacedemonstrations, teaching pple who dont' think they can sing, working as a musicteacher in the most difficult suburban areas....

The brainwashing thing stopped me in my tracks and started off my inner spiritual journey for which i'm really greatful. I still perform but not on the big scale anymore, i do astrology and i plant my garden reconnecting with my family. I don't feel i must do something BIG OUT THERE, i can do the inner work and change the world, we don't all have the same path to walk.

[derek]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

Well why don't you step up tp the plate and do the job yourself then?

I've spent my entire adult life working for a better future, I dug tunnels and built tree houses to protect forests, I tried working within the system to change things like when I went to Brussels and had 2 days of direct
Intimidation from the security forces, I've created self sufficiency gardens, taught countless people how to feed themselves, stood against lines of riot police in protests, read for tens of thousands of hours to understand what was happening, there's a lot more but I think you get the point that I haven't been idle. What I didn't do was stand in the spotlight and scream LOOK AT ME!!!

How about you?

Guess what, if we didn't have people who "stood in the spotlight" we would have no alternative community and know nothing about what we know now. Sometimes it's not about ego but about helping humanity.

Here is ego: " I do all kinds of great stuff for humanity and don't ask for anything. I am so humble and superior I don't need any recognition thats just how I am."

[RMorgan]

Living in the Limelight,
The universal dream
For those who wish to seem.
Those who wish to be
Must put aside the alienation,
Get on with the fascination,
The real relation,
The underlying theme.

Limelight, Rush.

:)

[joedjemal]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

Well why don't you step up tp the plate and do the job yourself then?

I've spent my entire adult life working for a better future, I dug tunnels and built tree houses to protect forests, I tried working within the system to change things like when I went to Brussels and had 2 days of direct
Intimidation from the security forces, I've created self sufficiency gardens, taught countless people how to feed themselves, stood against lines of riot police in protests, read for tens of thousands of hours to understand what was happening, there's a lot more but I think you get the point that I haven't been idle. What I didn't do was stand in the spotlight and scream LOOK AT ME!!!

How about you?

Guess what, if we didn't have people who "stood in the spotlight" we would have no alternative community and know nothing about what we know now. Sometimes it's not about ego but about helping humanity.

Here is ego: " I do all kinds of great stuff for humanity and don't ask for anything. I am so humble and superior I don't need any recognition thats just how I am."

Ok, fair enough but there are limits. And this particular bit of stuff I don't believe. And I'm really fed up with the endless hearsay and deliberate misinformation. I don't trust his motivation and I think too many people are far too credulous.

[bodhii71]

Is it possible that some kind of dark energy was focused at him, causing him to break down? Over the course of a couple days? Perhaps to cause a loss of credibility?

[transiten]

joedjemal said:

"Ok, fair enough but there are limits. And this particular bit of stuff I don't believe. And I'm really fed up with the endless hearsay and deliberate misinformation. I don't trust his motivation and I think too many people are far too credulous."

I say:

Of course you've got the right to not trust David! I'm extremely sceptical myself and have been questionning the info from Fulford a lot. What i am reacting at is the disdain and lack of empathy shown here since David is not crying fake crocodile tears.

[161803398]

If you are disarming a bomb you would normally be doing it because you are trained to disarm a bomb. If anyone else is disarming a bomb they might well get frightening halfway through the process realizing the bomb could go off. That is totally normal. Why would anyone think that a person would not get frightened if they received a death threat. What would be weird is if he didn't get frightened by a death threat.

[9eagle9]

When people are in the limelight dispensing information .....one has a has a choice to treat it as such. This is information, I'm aware of it, I'll keep it to mind for future reference. No emotional attachment to it, no acceptance, no deneail.

DW can dispense all the information he wants and he can even claim THAT IS THE WAY THINGS BE as the final authority on the matter. But he's not MY final authority and if that makes me his enemy all I can say is "I didn't create those circumstances."

The trouble pops up when people rush to embrace 'information' as a belief system. And create authorities concerning any belief system. That MUST be the way it is ...or is not. More side taking , and the more sides are drawn more opportunity for conflict arises.

That's our choice, its how we are creating these circumstances, they are imposed on us we choose them when the opportunity arises.

[transiten]

Is it possible that some kind of dark energy was focused at him, causing him to break down? Over the course of a couple days? Perhaps to cause a loss of credibility?


For heavens sake! David is HUMAN!

[Calz]

If you are disarming a bomb you would normally be doing it because you are trained to disarm a bomb. If anyone else is disarming a bomb they might well get frightening halfway through the process realizing the bomb could go off. That is totally normal. Why would anyone think that a person would not get frightened if they received a death threat. What would be weird is if he didn't get frightened by a death threat.

The threat was he would be lucky if there was only torture.

DW has smirked off death many times in his talks about what may come ... it is clearly different when coming face to face with it.

Perhaps others could learn a lesson who have not faced similar circumstances.

[9eagle9]

Now he has an opportunity to rise above that. He's at a point where he has to rise above it now because there ain't no going back now. And that is a horrible thing to struggle with.




Is it possible that some kind of dark energy was focused at him, causing him to break down? Over the course of a couple days? Perhaps to cause a loss of credibility?


For heavens sake! David is HUMAN!

[Logan]

After listening to the broadcast I am going to stay far away from the minutia of the discussion in this thread. My heart goes out to David who clearly is under a great deal of stress. I can't comment on anything else about the information he discussed. It's not my business, frankly. What I care about is another human being who is clearly undergoing a tramautic experience.

So again I will renew my request for Project Avalon, a community of peace, love, and light.... to focus our positive energy and love towards Mr. Wilcock during this trying time.

All the best to each and every one of you.

[STATIC]

Does Mr. Ryan have anything to say about this whole thing?

[joedjemal]

joedjemal said:

"Ok, fair enough but there are limits. And this particular bit of stuff I don't believe. And I'm really fed up with the endless hearsay and deliberate misinformation. I don't trust his motivation and I think too many people are far too credulous."

I say:

Of course you've got the right to not trust David! I'm extremely sceptical myself and have been questionning the info from Fulford a lot. What i am reacting at is the disdain and lack of empathy shown here since David is not crying fake crocodile tears.


But that's the point. I saw them as deliberately manipulative, not real. I was offended by it.

[9eagle9]

Is it possible that some kind of dark energy was focused at him, causing him to break down? Over the course of a couple days? Perhaps to cause a loss of credibility?

Consider that the threat of death ALSO tends to sway people into thinking that people are more credible or perhaps have tapped on some great unknown secret . Death as a validatior?

"He must have been on to something because they killed him. " Like Tesla?

I'm pretty sure 'they' know that David's revelation of gold hoarding isn't magicaklly going to case all the vaults to burst at the seams and we'll have gold flake raining down on us shortly. Something else is afoot here.

[transiten]

After listening to the broadcast I am going to stay far away from the minutia of the discussion in this thread. My heart goes out to David who clearly is under a great deal of stress. I can't comment on anything else about the information he discussed. It's not my business, frankly. What I care about is another human being who is clearly undergoing a tramautic experience.

So again I will renew my request for Project Avalon, a community of peace, love, and light.... to focus our positive energy and love towards Mr. Wilcock during this trying time.

All the best to each and every one of you.

OMG! Misericordia who pressed the thanksbutton some posts ahead of this was a word i considered to type into my last post!

[Unified Serenity]

Well, I guess DW did not read Sun Tzu and the art of war. DW just meandered out into the limelight, dispensed information like a guru, toddled off into astral and trusts everything like a child would without the wisdom to consider there might be real bad guys who might kill you, torture you, play with you like a cat with a mouse. Wisdom says to consider the costs of a battle before waging a war.

He's playing on a planetary scale to enlighten the world. One would think that some might not like his truth or his information. Let's give a list of similar types who did meet with untimely ends:

William Cooper
Rik Clay
Gazillion scientists
Princess Di
Michael Jackson
10 BP whistle blowers
Bhutto

Gee, I bet if given enough time, I could fill a page with people tortured and beaten to death, and let's not forget those currently undergoing energetic psy op torture. Like I said earlier, it's ok to get emotional when one believes they may be facing their imminent death or torture, but to not take actions he clearly seemed to be ready and able to last night leaves me wondering as I always have about who DW is, and what he really has to share. I have found a lot of "stars" in the alternative community are just telling things already told. I myself could put together a nice book based on other's works and if I may say so, I am damn good at public speaking. I've done it a lot, but who needs another rehashing of information that's been available for years. Just ask some of the ol' timers how they feel seeing their hard work they shared with others get taken and used by them as if it were there own research.

I've never trusted DW, I don't hate him, but I am less than impressed and would not want him in my foxhole energetic or physical one.

Serenity

[transiten]

joedjemal said:

"Ok, fair enough but there are limits. And this particular bit of stuff I don't believe. And I'm really fed up with the endless hearsay and deliberate misinformation. I don't trust his motivation and I think too many people are far too credulous."

I say:

Of course you've got the right to not trust David! I'm extremely sceptical myself and have been questionning the info from Fulford a lot. What i am reacting at is the disdain and lack of empathy shown here since David is not crying fake crocodile tears.


But that's the point. I saw them as deliberately manipulative, not real. I was offended by it.

I'm sorry but i think you've got an emotional shame blockage problem.

[Jeffrey]

Where is this anonymous caller from?

"It’s christmas time ya know, there."

"Well, I’m a long way away, lassie. If you only knew how far away I was. Let me tell you I’m a long ... I’m so far away you couldn’t believe."

"This phone call is coming from so far beyond the never-ever you could never appreciate it."

"Well, I do apologize if the time delay is a bit longer ... the distance is a little bit longer that you’d expect. So there is a bit of a time delay back and forth in the conversation."

He'd throw these statements out there and Kerry didn't even bite. He just kept sneaking it in there, so I figured it must be important somehow?

Also, has Bill weighed in on this? I noticed he hadn't posted anything on the topic, and I feel.. Well, I don't know how I feel about this yet. Just curious.

[Franny]

If anyone wants to listen to the advert free interview, here it is:

Click here for YT interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcy0X5w3KwU)

I just put in the link because some are on iPads.

[Sync]

David cried, not because he was scared out of his mind, but that was part of it.

Here's the thing. All you empaths out there will know whats up. David has been doing a form of speculative and anecdotally based disclosure for a long time. Its thrilling, fun, and a little scary to mingle with those in the know.

But, there comes a time, where it all changes. For instance, you receive real evidence... tangible proof of a conspiracy. In accepting and receiving tangible proof, the game can totally change.

David's game changed a few weeks back. Since then, he has begun to actually realize this fact. As pressures mount and s*** becomes real, you realize that you are past the point of no return. There is this moment where you realize that your former belief of "If I feel and believe that I cannot be hurt (because I am a sovereign and eternal being)" is kind of delusional in regard to your physical body. Its in that moment you realize, for example, "Holy crap, I am screwed, and that 6'7" guy standing outside my house beside his motorcycle staring at me and smiling is going to kill me whenever he is ready. I am nothing to these people. Who was I kidding. What have I done."

That moment sucks. Last night David had a version of that moment.

For the most part, until last night, David was suffering in silence. When he got on the air and realized that he was actually going to talk about this stuff, and that he had to, it felt surreal. When he started telling Kerry about his honest perception of impending death and torture, he started to get emotional.

When he started to receive sympathy, he lost it.

He needed to let it be known that he was scared to death. He needed to feel that he was being supported; that all of this terror was not a waste of time and an exercise in futility.

The tears had more to do about being validated for his work and for his fear; work that had put him in severe perceived danger. Work he did for all of you (well, and for himself, too).

OK, so it was weird to have a meltdown on the radio. But, he didn't plan it like that. He really thought he was going to die. I'm done.

[misericordia]

Hi Transiten.

Interesting synchronicity there! :)

[Duncan O'Finioan]

I'm only gonna say two things....for now.
What a fine dog and pony show!!!

It's all good Jack

[Kimberley]

WOW.....

I finally have the time to contribute here today. I woke up this morning and found the radio interview development. So I have listened to the interview, made a copy that I cut out the commercials, up loaded a copy to my internet server and am airing it right now on my internet show. This is my way of spreading this information to hundreds of the people that I connect with world wide. So now I have time to interject my 2 cents...

As many of you are aware... I have been in direct contact with David since early in 2007. I have been witnessing his growth in popularity and what that means for him and all that witness it.

David's fear about his death threat is a perfect example...obviously he has not fully transcended fear yet. That is not a judgment it is an observation. Fear is indeed the mind killer. Fear feeds the dark energy. The dark energy is fueled by fear. So David needed this experience to shed more fear residue that he is holding onto. Its all perfect. And he is showing that fear to 1000's via being in the public eye and sharing his response as an example to so many. Thank you David for all you are!!

I KNOW David is protected, but until he believes it he will need to go through these types of experiences. I know that this is helping him to grow stronger into his power. And it is helping others that are witness to his "struggle" and growth. I have known that I am protected my whole life and I am. Thank you universe for protecting me and all!! All is happening in divine order.

I have not read this whole thread but I am seeing some back and forth about "is this a publicity stunt".

NO THIS IS NOT A PUBLICITY STUNT!!!! PLEASE GET OVER THAT!!! Thank you!

I sure am looking forward to the day when everyone realizes that if you do not resonate with someone than don't pay attention to that person. If you do not trust David or Ben or whoever than please move on and pay attention to those you admire. And I am looking forward to the day when everyone learns to not be judgmental about anything. So please stop bickering on this forum. We have so much yet to do and we need all the help we can get. So please remember to put your energy into what resonates true for you and turn your back on what does not. Thank you for keeping your eyes on what you can accomplish.

Much love to us ALL!! :luv: And thank you for being you!!

[Mark]

It's all good Jack

Welcome to Avalon, Duncan. We are GLAD to have you.

:welcome:

[RMorgan]

Where is this anonymous caller from?

"It’s christmas time ya know, there."

"Well, I’m a long way away, lassie. If you only knew how far away I was. Let me tell you I’m a long ... I’m so far away you couldn’t believe."

"This phone call is coming from so far beyond the never-ever you could never appreciate it."

He'd throw these statements out there and Kerry didn't even bite.

Also, has Bill weighed in on this? I noticed he hadn't posted anything on the topic, and I feel.. Well, I don't know how I feel about this yet. Just curious.

It´s the typical teasing technique...I´m glad she didn´t bite. It shows she´s a smart woman...I can even see what would happen if she started to question such teasers...He would start saying that same old BS, about being in other planet, or dimension, and he´s part of a secret society, saying a lot of crazy things and then, when she asked something substantial, he would say he couldn´t talk about it, because it´s too dangerous and bla bla bla...

Thank God she didn´t buy it!! I couldn´t stand listening to this kind of stuff anymore.

Raf.

[Calz]

joedjemal said:

"Ok, fair enough but there are limits. And this particular bit of stuff I don't believe. And I'm really fed up with the endless hearsay and deliberate misinformation. I don't trust his motivation and I think too many people are far too credulous."

I say:

Of course you've got the right to not trust David! I'm extremely sceptical myself and have been questionning the info from Fulford a lot. What i am reacting at is the disdain and lack of empathy shown here since David is not crying fake crocodile tears.


But that's the point. I saw them as deliberately manipulative, not real. I was offended by it.

Let me ... if I may ... step into the middle here because I have had great respect for both of your posts in the past.

transiten is an astrologer.

That is her lense. That is how she sees things and how she understands not only people due to the influences they were born under but also what sorts of energies we all experience day to day.

I understand to a small degree because I have spent many years on a hobbiest (not professional) level doing the same thing. One of my closest friends and one of the most advanced souls I have had the pleasure to come face to face with taught me much (not only about astrology).

Other people posting here talk about courage, facing death threats and such who have come from that sort of experience.

We all are different. You want to learn about astrology that is a start.

Being a "sensitive" does not resonate with being a "warrior" in many cases. In some yes. Case in point is member Carmody who pushes the envelope regardless of which direction you are heading.

Anyway ... (yes I could not sleep and dragged my lazy butt out of bed for this) ... we all are very different. Guess what??? We all go through all the same motions and all the same experiences from every possible angle in the many lifetimes we experience here.

Is that not clear to everyone here by now???

Those that have wise words of experience to share ... hey ... they have been here before and experienced similar situations.

How obvious can it be???

9eagle9 offers a lot of wisdom, remarkably so in many cases, and she clearly articulates that does not make her friend or foe. Something to consider.

I cannot say with 100% certainty that anything Wilcock or Fulford says is true. Wilcock has made a remarkable contribution to the world. Perhaps he has stepped out of his comfort zone by bringing in "sources" (which by the way he didn't do so before getting hooked up with those rascals Bill and Kerry).

I don't know.

I got absolutely crucified once here for simply posting a Fulford article.

One would think there has been some legitimacy established with the lawsuit. Of course here comes the "it only takes $10 to file a lawsuit crowd". Really. Try putting 111 pages of the type of documentation (spare me the comments on the 8 lines from wiki) from lawyers necessary to make this go anywhere and talk to me about the bill.

No matter ... sleepy time talk here ... only people with open minds will bother considering.

IMHO

[Zillah]

WOW.....

I finally have the time to contribute here today. I woke up this morning and found the radio interview development. So I have listened to the interview, made a copy that I cut out the commercials, up loaded a copy to my internet server and am airing it right now on my internet show. This is my way of spreading this information to hundreds of the people that I connect with world wide. So now I have time to interject my 2 cents...

As many of you are aware... I have been in direct contact with David since early in 2007. I have been witnessing his growth in popularity and what that means for him and all that witness it.

David's fear about his death threat is a perfect example...obviously he has not fully transcended fear yet. That is not a judgment it is an observation. Fear is indeed the mind killer. Fear feeds the dark energy. The dark energy is fueled by fear. So David needed this experience to shed more fear residue that he is holding onto. Its all perfect. And he is showing that fear to 1000's via being in the public eye and sharing his response as an example to so many. Thank you David for all you are!!

I KNOW David is protected, but until he believes it he will need to go through these types of experiences. I know that this is helping him to grow stronger into his power. And it is helping others that are witness to his "struggle" and growth. I have known that I am protected my whole life and I am. Thank you universe for protecting me and all!! All is happening in divine order.

I have not read this whole thread but I am seeing some back and forth about "is this a publicity stunt".

NO THIS IS NOT A PUBLICITY STUNT!!!! PLEASE GET OVER THAT!!! Thank you!

I sure am looking forward to the day when everyone realizes that if you do not resonate with someone than don't pay attention to that person. If you do not trust David or Ben or whoever than please move on and pay attention to those you admire. And I am looking forward to the day when everyone learns to not be judgmental about anything. So please stop bickering on this forum. We have so much yet to do and we need all the help we can get. So please remember to put your energy into what resonates true for you and turn your back on what does not. Thank you for keeping your eyes on what you can accomplish.

Much love to us ALL!! :luv: And thank you for being you!!

As brothers and sisters, we are getting called to step up the the plate - to offer our support, our love, our shoulder to cry on and our utmost protection.

Please anyone who thinks this is a stunt, GET OVER YOURSELF and see the big picture - this is no boy crying wolf - this is our opportunity to show our true colors.

Send love, send protection, and visualize the outcome already as we and David has succeeded.

Lets be broken records that skip on WE CREATE REALITY.... we create reality.... we create reality... we crea......

[joedjemal]

joedjemal said:

"Ok, fair enough but there are limits. And this particular bit of stuff I don't believe. And I'm really fed up with the endless hearsay and deliberate misinformation. I don't trust his motivation and I think too many people are far too credulous."

I say:

Of course you've got the right to not trust David! I'm extremely sceptical myself and have been questionning the info from Fulford a lot. What i am reacting at is the disdain and lack of empathy shown here since David is not crying fake crocodile tears.


But that's the point. I saw them as deliberately manipulative, not real. I was offended by it.

I'm sorry but i think you've got an emotional shame blockage problem.

What's an emotional shame blockage problem? Why can't you accept that I perceive him as manipulative? I have for a long time. I consider the Galactic Federation of Light, Fulford, Zagami and a bunch of others involved around them to be involved in deliberate misinformation because of the nature of the information they produce. Channeled, vague, lack of verifiable sources, distracting people enormously from real, vitally important problems. They're saying trust us, give us your power, we're going to fix everything, don't worry it's all under control, you don't have to do a thing your space brothers are blowing up the boogymen. Have you seen a single photograph from inside one of these ships? Have you seen ANY concrete help? It's all empty words, it smells like lies. And he's pushing them. If he wants my respect and belief I need more than channelled space brothers. A couple of decent photographs of inside the ships, of their planets will do. Then I might believe them. Truth has a flavour, a certain richness of information that these guys lack. Of course I think he's crying crocodile tears. I think he could be working for the guys he says are threatening him. Where's the data? Show me and I'll apologise.

[Jeffrey]

Where is this anonymous caller from?

"It’s christmas time ya know, there."

"Well, I’m a long way away, lassie. If you only knew how far away I was. Let me tell you I’m a long ... I’m so far away you couldn’t believe."

"This phone call is coming from so far beyond the never-ever you could never appreciate it."

He'd throw these statements out there and Kerry didn't even bite.

Also, has Bill weighed in on this? I noticed he hadn't posted anything on the topic, and I feel.. Well, I don't know how I feel about this yet. Just curious.

It´s the typical teasing technique...I´m glad she didn´t bite. It shows she´s a smart woman...I can even see what would happen if she started to question such teasers...He would start saying that same old BS, about being in other planet, or dimension, and he´s part of a secret society, saying a lot of crazy things and then, when she asked something substantial, he would say he couldn´t talk about it, because it´s too dangerous and bla bla bla...

Thank God she didn´t buy it!! I couldn´t stand listening to this kind of stuff anymore.

Raf.

Thanks for your reply. I think I'm leaning the other way on this one though (although I still feel on the fence). I think this is a piece of the puzzle. Also, David hasn't posted part two yet ... The next couple of weeks will make or break this whole thing. Thanks again, Raf.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I'm only gonna say two things....for now.
What a fine dog and pony show!!!

It's all good Jack

Howdy! Good to have you on the forum brother! Care to elaborate/shed more light on your post?

[Zillah]

joedjemal said:

"Ok, fair enough but there are limits. And this particular bit of stuff I don't believe. And I'm really fed up with the endless hearsay and deliberate misinformation. I don't trust his motivation and I think too many people are far too credulous."

I say:

Of course you've got the right to not trust David! I'm extremely sceptical myself and have been questionning the info from Fulford a lot. What i am reacting at is the disdain and lack of empathy shown here since David is not crying fake crocodile tears.


But that's the point. I saw them as deliberately manipulative, not real. I was offended by it.

I'm sorry but i think you've got an emotional shame blockage problem.

What's an emotional shame blockage problem? Why can't you accept that I perceive him as manipulative? I have for a long time. I consider the Galactic Feferation of. Light, Fulford, Zagami and a bunch of others involved around them to be involved in deliberate misinformation because of the nature of the information they produce. Channeled, vague, lack of verifiable sources, distracting people enormously from real, vitally important problems. They're saying trust us, give us your power, we're going to fix everything, don't worry it's all under control, you don't have to do a thing your space brothers are blowing up the boogymen. Have you seen a single photograph from inside one of these ships? Have you seen ANY concrete help? It's all empty words, it smells like lies. And he's pushing them. If he wants my respect and belief I need more than channelled space brothers. A couple of decent photographs of inside the ships, of their planets will do. Then I might believe them. Truth has a flavour, a certain richness of information that these guys lack. Of course I think he's crying crocodile tears. I think he could be working for the guys he says are threatening him. Where's the data? Show me and I'll apologise.

I really do say this with love: I think its disgusting that a man's life might be at risk, and yet your left brain is still hammering out each piece of data like a heartless computer.

Sometimes you have to take the plunge and TRUST - even if it means you'll end up being wrong about something/someone.

At the end of the day, your facts wont save you - if anything they will cause you to hesitate and someone will die because of it.

TRUST AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS - the worst thing is that you'll be wrong, and then you'll have the gift of learning something.

Such a shame, we rather be right and miserable than wrong and happy.

[Khaleesi]

If you are disarming a bomb you would normally be doing it because you are trained to disarm a bomb. If anyone else is disarming a bomb they might well get frightening halfway through the process realizing the bomb could go off. That is totally normal. Why would anyone think that a person would not get frightened if they received a death threat. What would be weird is if he didn't get frightened by a death threat.

I never said he shouldn't be afraid. I think he has every right to be afraid. With DW's background and involvement he SHOULD have been aware of the dangers. So, if I am not trained to disarm a bomb, I certainly would NOT VOLUNTEER or pretend to be unaware of the dangers if I did volunteer. I may volunteer if there is no one more qualified but I am certainly going in with my 'eyes open' to the consequences because I have been PAYING ATTENTION! If you volunteer, after watching someone else die doing the same action, don't get half way through and suddenly realize the consequences! The consequences are plain to see. You saw your neighbor die doing this. You know the consequences before you start, if you were paying attention. How can DW be so involved and NOT realize it's dangerous? I haven't been involved in all the things that DW has been involved in and I'm very aware of the dangers. The dangers are quite obvious! Many people have died or disappeared. Obvious danger! Do you really want to say he wasn't paying attention during his research? He places himself out there as a very aware person but is oblivious? I don't think so.

[mountain_jim]

IRS report on the Obamas being filed.....another piece to the deflation of the cabals.

http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/

No place to run and no place to hide!

:peace:

Well that report is a month old. Was hoping for a new one.

I have waited for any confirmation of what the White Hats have been posting this year. Have not seen much. I'd have to say now with this lawsuit filed, and with the info I learned about from last night's interview here:

http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/deepblacklies_new.htm

that Fulford's credibility has risen above the White Hats, at least for me, at this time.

[truth4me]

Well, I guess DW did not read Sun Tzu and the art of war. DW just meandered out into the limelight, dispensed information like a guru, toddled off into astral and trusts everything like a child would without the wisdom to consider there might be real bad guys who might kill you, torture you, play with you like a cat with a mouse. Wisdom says to consider the costs of a battle before waging a war.

He's playing on a planetary scale to enlighten the world. One would think that some might not like his truth or his information. Let's give a list of similar types who did meet with untimely ends:

William Cooper
Rik Clay
Gazillion scientists
Princess Di
Michael Jackson
10 BP whistle blowers
Bhutto

Gee, I bet if given enough time, I could fill a page with people tortured and beaten to death, and let's not forget those currently undergoing energetic psy op torture. Like I said earlier, it's ok to get emotional when one believes they may be facing their imminent death or torture, but to not take actions he clearly seemed to be ready and able to last night leaves me wondering as I always have about who DW is, and what he really has to share. I have found a lot of "stars" in the alternative community are just telling things already told. I myself could put together a nice book based on other's works and if I may say so, I am damn good at public speaking. I've done it a lot, but who needs another rehashing of information that's been available for years. Just ask some of the ol' timers how they feel seeing their hard work they shared with others get taken and used by them as if it were there own research.

I've never trusted DW, I don't hate him, but I am less than impressed and would not want him in my foxhole energetic or physical one.

SerenityOuch! Prop points --- for you do tell how you feel that's for sure. Yet truth is what it is.......

[Calz]

I really do say this with love: I think its disgusting that a man's life might be at risk, and yet your left brain is still hammering out each piece of data like a heartless computer.

Sometimes you have to take the plunge and TRUST - even if it means you'll end up being wrong about something/someone.

At the end of the day, your facts wont save you - if anything they will cause you to hesitate and someone will die because of it.

TRUST AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS - the worst thing is that you'll be wrong, and then you'll have the gift of learning something.

Such a shame, we rather be right and miserable than wrong and happy.


Wow ... dunno what else to say.

[joedjemal]

joedjemal said:

"Ok, fair enough but there are limits. And this particular bit of stuff I don't believe. And I'm really fed up with the endless hearsay and deliberate misinformation. I don't trust his motivation and I think too many people are far too credulous."

I say:

Of course you've got the right to not trust David! I'm extremely sceptical myself and have been questionning the info from Fulford a lot. What i am reacting at is the disdain and lack of empathy shown here since David is not crying fake crocodile tears.


But that's the point. I saw them as deliberately manipulative, not real. I was offended by it.

I'm sorry but i think you've got an emotional shame blockage problem.

What's an emotional shame blockage problem? Why can't you accept that I perceive him as manipulative? I have for a long time. I consider the Galactic Feferation of. Light, Fulford, Zagami and a bunch of others involved around them to be involved in deliberate misinformation because of the nature of the information they produce. Channeled, vague, lack of verifiable sources, distracting people enormously from real, vitally important problems. They're saying trust us, give us your power, we're going to fix everything, don't worry it's all under control, you don't have to do a thing your space brothers are blowing up the boogymen. Have you seen a single photograph from inside one of these ships? Have you seen ANY concrete help? It's all empty words, it smells like lies. And he's pushing them. If he wants my respect and belief I need more than channelled space brothers. A couple of decent photographs of inside the ships, of their planets will do. Then I might believe them. Truth has a flavour, a certain richness of information that these guys lack. Of course I think he's crying crocodile tears. I think he could be working for the guys he says are threatening him. Where's the data? Show me and I'll apologise.

I really do say this with love: I think its disgusting that a man's life might be at risk, and yet your left brain is still hammering out each piece of data like a heartless computer.

Sometimes you have to take the plunge and TRUST - even if it means you'll end up being wrong about something/someone.

At the end of the day, your facts wont save you - if anything they will cause you to hesitate and someone will die because of it.

TRUST AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS - the worst thing is that you'll be wrong, and then you'll have the gift of learning something.

Such a shame, we rather be right and miserable than wrong and happy.


I'm sorry but I've been waiting to see what happens next with this bunch for years and it's always the same hyped cr*p. Breathless waiting for the next installment of the drama, what truly original thing has he come up with? My heart tells me as well as my mind that this is all a lie. I suppose we'll see. I've seen real threats, I've been threatened many times and they don't come third hand like this. I don't believe it and I think you're being fooled.

[Calz]

Major off-topic ... but many just don't get it ... even here unfortunately.


Zad0mQIdJcE

[Mark]

This thread has turned into the perfect example of the phenomenon that I write about in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36661-Speculative-Esoteric-Metaphysics). Those who hold each side, thinking that there are really two sides, continue to bicker needlessly without seeking the compromise that lies directly between them and that is always available. There are not, really, two different sides. You have the choice to choose the option that does not include continuing the drama. It's better for the heart and soul.

[OneLittleFrog]

"Don't DARE question him! We MUST ALL believe him! If you don't, you're a heartless, unascendable BEAST!"

I swear, some of these posts are directly copied and pasted from the Charles Drama earlier in the year. *sigh*


(for the record, I find DW likeable and sincere; I can't say the same for BF. Just my two cents.)

[joedjemal]

This thread has turned into the perfect example of the phenomenon that I write about in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36661-Speculative-Esoteric-Metaphysics). Those who hold each side, thinking that there are really two sides, continue to bicker needlessly without seeking the compromise that lies directly between them and that is always available. There are not, really, two different sides. You have the choice to choose the option that does not include continuing the drama. It's better for the heart and soul.

I agree. I've had my say and I was beginning to lose my temper. That's all from me on this.

[crosby]

I'm only gonna say two things....for now.
What a fine dog and pony show!!!

It's all good Jack


hey there Duncan O'Finioan, would you care to expound on that statement? i'm just curious as too what you're feeling about the whole situation here. big welcome to the avalon forum. lot of respect for you here.
warmest regards, corson

[Lazlo]

Well, I'm finally caught up on this thread and I am going to make one last comment before I check out and get back to my job and holiday plans. Cookies to bake, presents to wrap, pack for the trip to the family home....It's starting to feel a lot like Christmas...

I am willing to acknowledge that:

Even if the threats have no substance, David may well believe that they are real.

Someone put time into pulling the lawsuit together.

Fulford missed an appointment.

There could be a Dragon's hoard 5 miles down in the Pacific Ocean.

A guy with an Irish accent may really have dialed in from offplanet.

Ninjas, The Titanic, and 9/11, oh my!

I am going to purge this whole thing from my conscious mind and check in for the Cliffs Notes after the new year.

Be safe, be merry, and hug your loved ones every chance you get!:grouphug:

[Tibouchine]

The gold “Anonymus” has spoken of belongs to the people of the world.

The treasure is gigantic. It contains 20 Million metric tons of gold, silver, platinum, gems, aluminum, enough money to make every person on this planet a millionaire, plus artifacts.

The treasure was administered by an organisation called Office of International Treasury Control OITC until the end of 2010. The OITC, although connected to the United Nations, had the status of a sovereign entity. At the end of 2010 it was taken over by the White Dragon Society (in my opinion these are NOT the good ones as Mr. Fulford wants to make us believe, although they might not follow the same fascist-zionist agenda of the western cabal).

If you take your time to listen to the interviews below you will find out a lot more about the treasure of the OITC, which is also known as “Foundation Divine”, its history which goes back to the time of the French Revolution and even further and what has happened to the head of the OITC Dr. Ray Dam at the end of 2010. You will also hear more about Neil Keenan (who is obviously a part of the rogue CIA-faction) and many other interesting things. Unfortunately I didn’t manage to make a transcription of the interviews, maybe some of you mother tongue speakers can provide us with a summary?

Links to the three radio shows Rayelan did with David Sale

1. Radio show April 7, 2011

http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour2.mp3


2. Radio show April 12, 2011
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour3.mp3


3. Radio show of May 10, 2011
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour3.mp3


If you like to do some further research go to the OITC website www.unoitc.org, which is still available. If you want to know more about Dr. Ray C. Dam who was head of the OITC until December 2010 go here http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking96.htm

More information on this topic is also available on the archives of www.rumormillnews.com or here http://abundanthope.net/pages/Whistleblower_and_OITC_114/index.shtml

I am following this OITC story since two years because I was translating some of the messages of OITC-Whistleblower and David Sale that were published on www.AbundantHope.net into German.

[aranuk]

Well ... 8:15 am in DW's time zone and still no promised update for "Part 2".

Thought he was pulling an "all nighter" since so much for him personally depended on it (and that could still be the case).

Could be he was simply exhausted and figured his message got out to enough people with Kerry's radio spot ... and with assurance of "protection" that he is sleeping and will update later.

Don't want to add any energy to any other "possibility" at this point.

Be well David.

Remember the Irishman did warn him to tell the truth and get it all out Calz. Maybe he is double checking his facts, which could take some time. He might be cutting out all info he got that is maybe suspect. Time consuming a wee bitty don't you think.

Stan

[000]

Dog and pony show indeed. Everything that ever has been, is and will be, is just that. The actors are also the directors. So choose wisely which lines you choose, for each line you sew, you own. Each line comes with an end user license which, in my experience, is really important to read before purchasing from the universe :girl_cray3:

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages.
At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school.
And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow.
Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth.
And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part.
The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slipper'd pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,
His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound.
Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

Let us all simply fulfill our self-directed self-chosen duties and do what we shall do.

The Charles/Atticus/Stephen drama was long, drawn out, and finally balanced out energetically. I'm really glad for that. Lets make sure that stickiness isn't around this time, because there is very real work to be done. Opinions matter a lot less now. I will only say this once because it only needs to be said once from me now: If you have opinions, that is okay, but this world needs you more than it ever has, so please, if anything holds you back from quietly doing your work in union with all, no matter what their opinions, please let it go. If you could feel the bursts of pain I've felt emitted by this world, you wouldn't want to be divided any longer, nor to create that. Earth hurts. She's trying to give birth. Be good, responsible midwives. With all of my heart, please.

Hugs :)

[cellardoor]

WOW.....

I finally have the time to contribute here today. I woke up this morning and found the radio interview development. So I have listened to the interview, made a copy that I cut out the commercials, up loaded a copy to my internet server and am airing it right now on my internet show. This is my way of spreading this information to hundreds of the people that I connect with world wide. So now I have time to interject my 2 cents...

As many of you are aware... I have been in direct contact with David since early in 2007. I have been witnessing his growth in popularity and what that means for him and all that witness it.

David's fear about his death threat is a perfect example...obviously he has not fully transcended fear yet. That is not a judgment it is an observation. Fear is indeed the mind killer. Fear feeds the dark energy. The dark energy is fueled by fear. So David needed this experience to shed more fear residue that he is holding onto. Its all perfect. And he is showing that fear to 1000's via being in the public eye and sharing his response as an example to so many. Thank you David for all you are!!

I KNOW David is protected, but until he believes it he will need to go through these types of experiences. I know that this is helping him to grow stronger into his power. And it is helping others that are witness to his "struggle" and growth. I have known that I am protected my whole life and I am. Thank you universe for protecting me and all!! All is happening in divine order.

I have not read this whole thread but I am seeing some back and forth about "is this a publicity stunt".

NO THIS IS NOT A PUBLICITY STUNT!!!! PLEASE GET OVER THAT!!! Thank you!

I sure am looking forward to the day when everyone realizes that if you do not resonate with someone than don't pay attention to that person. If you do not trust David or Ben or whoever than please move on and pay attention to those you admire. And I am looking forward to the day when everyone learns to not be judgmental about anything. So please stop bickering on this forum. We have so much yet to do and we need all the help we can get. So please remember to put your energy into what resonates true for you and turn your back on what does not. Thank you for keeping your eyes on what you can accomplish.

Much love to us ALL!! :luv: And thank you for being you!!

Thank you Kimberly for keeping us informed, please know that I'm sure there are alot of people on avalon who love David, who know this isn't for publicity. Send him our love and admiration. And I would really appreciate it if you kept us up to date with the developments. Thank you for spreading the word.
In love and light
Michael

[Calz]

The gold “Anonymus” has spoken of belongs to the people of the world.

The treasure is gigantic. It contains 20 Million metric tons of gold, silver, platinum, gems, aluminum, enough money to make every person on this planet a millionaire, plus artifacts.

The treasure was administered by an organisation called Office of International Treasury Control OITC until the end of 2010. The OITC, although connected to the United Nations, had the status of a sovereign entity. At the end of 2010 it was taken over by the White Dragon Society (in my opinion these are NOT the good ones as Mr. Fulford wants to make us believe, although they might not follow the same fascist-zionist agenda of the western cabal).

If you take your time to listen to the interviews below you will find out a lot more about the treasure of the OITC, which is also known as “Foundation Divine”, its history which goes back to the time of the French Revolution and even further and what has happened to the head of the OITC Dr. Ray Dam at the end of 2010. You will also hear more about Neil Keenan (who is obviously a part of the rogue CIA-faction) and many other interesting things. Unfortunately I didn’t manage to make a transcription of the interviews, maybe some of you mother tongue speakers can provide us with a summary?

Links to the three radio shows Rayelan did with David Sale

1. Radio show April 7, 2011

http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour2.mp3


2. Radio show April 12, 2011
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour3.mp3


3. Radio show of May 10, 2011
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour3.mp3


If you like to do some further research go to the OITC website www.unoitc.org, which is still available. If you want to know more about Dr. Ray C. Dam who was head of the OITC until December 2010 go here http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking96.htm

More information on this topic is also available on the archives of www.rumormillnews.com or here http://abundanthope.net/pages/Whistleblower_and_OITC_114/index.shtml

I am following this OITC story since two years because I was translating some of the messages of OITC-Whistleblower and David Sale that were published on www.AbundantHope.net into German.

Thanx and welcome to Avalon :welcome:

Rayelan is not to be dismissed. I followed that site for awhile. She was also interviewed by Kerry on the Camelot radio show.

Rayelan has allegedly been to Mars. How many people can honestly claim that?

[Calz]

Well, I'm finally caught up on this thread and I am going to make one last comment before I check out and get back to my job and holiday plans. Cookies to bake, presents to wrap, pack for the trip to the family home....It's starting to feel a lot like Christmas...

I am willing to acknowledge that:

Even if the threats have no substance, David may well believe that they are real.

Someone put time into pulling the lawsuit together.

Fulford missed an appointment.

There could be a Dragon's hoard 5 miles down in the Pacific Ocean.

A guy with an Irish accent may really have dialed in from offplanet.

Ninjas, The Titanic, and 9/11, oh my!

I am going to purge this whole thing from my conscious mind and check in for the Cliffs Notes after the new year.

Be safe, be merry, and hug your loved ones every chance you get!:grouphug:

Cookies and family are the safest and best "bet" ... wish it were really that simple.

[Words of Joy]

I've done some further investigating in Japan, to see how information moves in Japan. And it definitely strikes me that here we have 2 key-media players(BF & DW), that have had a "supposedly" threatning occurance. And who in a timeframe of 3 days are in a major way in the alternative media circuit. What I believe is happening is creation of media attention. I believe the powers behind the Dragon Family might have initiated this, in order to try to create a breakthrough to MSM. (though assumption on my part offcourse)

What I just read:

http://ameblo.jp/stageup-gate/entry-11107170285.html (japanese, which I had translated)


... Who apparently has been under house arrest in the CIA Rashiki Benjamin Fulford Benjamin Fulford is a CIA-type group Detained by December 13th 2,011 List of Senators who voted to protect Big Bankster, Criminal Financial Institutes. Please make sure to Spread Around this and if they are your Senator, please contact their office and tell them what you think.

http://webpac.jp/packages/read?pid=2068


The reason for this is that through a misunderstanding I missed an appointment with Chodoin Daikaku, the head of many of the world's largest martial arts societies and an important ally. When all attempts to contact me failed, he MUST Have Assumed Nefarious something Happened to me. Given the various other attempts on my Life and Harassment Towards me directed by the cabal, That was an Entirely Realistic Assumption.

But Daikaku assumed things happening in a hotel-room with 2 CIA agents holding him in place. And that is nothing like an assumption. How can you assume that if someone doesn't show that he 1) is in a hotelroom and 2) is detained by 2 CIA agents? In my book, it doesn't fit. Benjamin makes a suspicious remark imo, when he says that Daikaku made an entirely realistic assumption.

I do think both occurances were staged and I do not think that David knew anything about it. There was no need, as it had to be as convincing as possible. And that seems to have worked. :) I am still wondering if even Project Camelot was in on it. But that would be a more of a wild guess.

I would like to agree with Unified Serenity. If the cabal really wanted David dead, they wouldn't have given a warning.

What I expect is more events, that will create media traffic. I'll keep tuned in to keep track of my theory. :)

[Lazlo]

Well, I'm finally caught up on this thread and I am going to make one last comment before I check out and get back to my job and holiday plans. Cookies to bake, presents to wrap, pack for the trip to the family home....It's starting to feel a lot like Christmas...

I am willing to acknowledge that:

Even if the threats have no substance, David may well believe that they are real.

Someone put time into pulling the lawsuit together.

Fulford missed an appointment.

There could be a Dragon's hoard 5 miles down in the Pacific Ocean.

A guy with an Irish accent may really have dialed in from offplanet.

Ninjas, The Titanic, and 9/11, oh my!

I am going to purge this whole thing from my conscious mind and check in for the Cliffs Notes after the new year.

Be safe, be merry, and hug your loved ones every chance you get!:grouphug:

Cookies and family are the safest and best "bet" ... wish it were really that simple.

Ah, but it is really that simple. There are things that we can control, and those that we cannot.

A thought experiment: EVERY word that Ben and David has said is the absolute truth. It is all going to happen just as they say. What does that mean for me?

I will still wake up tomorrow with my little boy snuggling into bed beside me. I'll get him ready for school, take the dog for a walk, make my coffee, get to work....

At some point the markets will crash, then climb, then crash, then climb...people will be rounded up and the cameras will be rolling..."Oh the joy, we are free from the OWO"...

When the dust settles, the sun will still rise in the east, the vegetables will still grow in the garden, and some other group will be in charge of the planet's treasure. Through this all, one thing will remain constant, my love for my family and my desire to provide for them and see them grow.

Few moments in life are so precious as cookies with the kids. Today only happens once.

Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. Ater enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.

ETA: OK, I realize that the previous post wasn't my last, but I just couldn't help myself.

[crosby]

Lazlo, i couldn't have said it better myself.
warmest, corson

[Calz]

Well, I'm finally caught up on this thread and I am going to make one last comment before I check out and get back to my job and holiday plans. Cookies to bake, presents to wrap, pack for the trip to the family home....It's starting to feel a lot like Christmas...

I am willing to acknowledge that:

Even if the threats have no substance, David may well believe that they are real.

Someone put time into pulling the lawsuit together.

Fulford missed an appointment.

There could be a Dragon's hoard 5 miles down in the Pacific Ocean.

A guy with an Irish accent may really have dialed in from offplanet.

Ninjas, The Titanic, and 9/11, oh my!

I am going to purge this whole thing from my conscious mind and check in for the Cliffs Notes after the new year.

Be safe, be merry, and hug your loved ones every chance you get!:grouphug:

Cookies and family are the safest and best "bet" ... wish it were really that simple.

Ah, but it is really that simple. There are things that we can control, and those that we cannot.

A thought experiment: EVERY word that Ben and David has said is the absolute truth. It is all going to happen just as they say. What does that mean for me?

I will still wake up tomorrow with my little boy snuggling into bed beside me. I'll get him ready for school, take the dog for a walk, make my coffee, get to work....

At some point the markets will crash, then climb, then crash, then climb...people will be rounded up and the cameras will be rolling..."Oh the joy, we are free from the OWO"...

When the dust settles, the sun will still rise in the east, the vegetables will still grow in the garden, and some other group will be in charge of the planet's treasure. Through this all, one thing will remain constant, my love for my family and my desire to provide for them and see them grow.

Few moments in life are so precious as cookies with the kids. Today only happens once.

Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. Ater enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.

ETA: OK, I realize that the previous post wasn't my last, but I just couldn't help myself.

My 10 year old is the greatest source of love I have every experienced (no soul connection there ... )

He loves cookies ... not me it hurts my teeth.

Don't chop wood (no fireplace) carry water only in filling empty bottles for whatever may be.

Enlightenment???

What the heck is that???

[Flash]

UNTIL I started to hear the Anonymous Irishman Speak...

I listened very carefully to what he had to say, and even more closely to his phone...

It was'nt Skype, It Wasn't a landline or Cell..!

It was clear, but distant...The kind of phonecall someone would make from off-planet...

So to me, I thought the Anonymous Irishman maybe 'Fair-Dinkum'..?

Have a look at his last comment he left with David in the interview on my post #227


Ending with this Statement - "As long as your telling the 'TRUTH' David, you have nothing to worry about from us..."

Rgs,

Jack




The phone call was admittedly odd.

The connection was like ... crystal clear ... much better than any of the other callers.

He apologized for a "lag" but I didn't detect one ... and with international calls broadcast it is usually quite distinct.

That was a good "catch" Jack. :thumb:

A satellite phone. Good in war, good when far away and have to reach someone from anywhere ON EARTH to anywhere ON EARTH. This would also explain the excuses for the small delays. They are very good phones, that moves around as much as you want and can target the communication satellite one desires (difficult to track).
However, someone having such a phone has to have some means, financially or otherwise.

[OneLittleFrog]

one thing will remain constant, my love for my family and my desire to provide for them and see them grow.

Few moments in life are so precious as cookies with the kids. Today only happens once.

Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. Ater enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.

Beautiful, Lazlo. Wonderful to hear from someone so in tune with what's real. Love to you. [Do we have any "heart" smilies left?]

[leavesoftrees]

It went from the pits (hearing David sob was heart-breaking) to the most uplifting messages. Absolutely amazing.

Why was it the pits that David was sobbing? Tears are a valid form of expression - release tension, open the heart and the eyes. Often someone's tears can
provoke our own, which can be scarey

Still there is a big cultural taboo against crying. Rather than hand someone a box of tissues when tears start to flow, (Which is a covert message telling them to clean up and stop crying) put a hand on their back to signal that their tears are OK and you are there with them

from RTCCAC (Resist the cultural cringe against crying)

[Teresa]

That was a pretty interesting programme. My best wishes to David Wilcock. Naturally I found myself wondering who the White Hat was, with the fake? Irish accent. Not that it's of any importance in the scheme of things. I hope a transcript will become available because I couldn't understand a lot of what he (anonymous) was saying. It could be construed he was off planet, saying he was further away than one could imagine (or something like that).

Anyway I'm a little more confused than ever. So much going on behind our backs, for so long. The rabbit hole has gotten so deep I've almost stopped digging - there's just too much information to consume out there generally, and perhaps this is part of the plan to keep us busy and distracted. I now just keep my antenna tuned and my family close. It's of some comfort that someone, somewhere, is watching our backs.


The final message was positive and that's what I'll take away from it. And again I hope David will be ok, it sounds like he will be.

[bearcow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30psV-2kez8&feature=related

[Words of Joy]

Still there is a big cultural taboo against crying. Rather than hand someone a box of tissues when tears start to flow, (Which is a covert message telling them to clean up and stop crying) put a hand on their back to signal that their tears are OK and you are there with them

In my world handing over a tissue is to help the person dry it's face so the tears won't drip on it's clothes. Which can also be interpreted as a sign of affection. I believe that a lot depends on your intentions. And your intentions will be picked up by the one crying. But indeed a stroke on the back is a positive gesture in such a situation.

[karelia]

It went from the pits (hearing David sob was heart-breaking) to the most uplifting messages. Absolutely amazing.

Why was it the pits that David was sobbing? Tears are a valid form of expression - release tension, open the heart and the eyes. Often someone's tears can
provoke our own, which can be scarey

Still there is a big cultural taboo against crying. Rather than hand someone a box of tissues when tears start to flow, (Which is a covert message telling them to clean up and stop crying) put a hand on their back to signal that their tears are OK and you are there with them

from RTCCAC (Resist the cultural cringe against crying)

Hearing the distress I found heart-breaking. It has nothing to do with cultural taboos for me.

[transiten]

I've been browsing Divine Cosmos Forum and there's not a single sign there of what's going on with David. Many post in his blog but there's no thread discussing this. I started one but the moderation is not done yet...have the feeling it won't be accepted...

Strange indeed....

[DreamsInDigital]

I've never been a big fan of the moderation they use for that forum. I personally think it's a bit much.

[aranuk]

Major off-topic ... but many just don't get it ... even here unfortunately.


Zad0mQIdJcE

Wise man, Jamess

Stan

[misericordia]

UPDATE.. from David Wilcock


UPDATE THURSDAY 2:08 PM: ALL IS WELL

I stayed up pretty late last night but did not finish the piece yet. I took SAM-e and GABA to help me sleep and I awoke to a phone call at 1PM from someone asking me if I was OK.

So everything is fine and I will continue on this path to jump back into the article ASAP and get it posted. Thankfully, Kerry's offer of a radio show allowed me to get out the most critical information right away.

I have also now been contacted by the Dragon Family representatives associated with the lawsuit, and as a result of this threat, I have been told to relay the following:

IF ANYTHING FURTHER HAPPENS TO DAVID WILCOCK, OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS CASE, WE WILL OPEN THE BOOK OF CODES AND THE BOOK OF MAKLUMAT TO THE PUBLIC AND YOUR ASSES WILL BE HAULED OFF TO JAIL. STAND DOWN IMMEDIATELY.

I was additionally told that the entire network of international protection surrounding this case has now been extended to me. For all those helping on all these different levels, I do thank you.

[transiten]

UPDATE.. from David Wilcock


UPDATE THURSDAY 2:08 PM: ALL IS WELL

I stayed up pretty late last night but did not finish the piece yet. I took SAM-e and GABA to help me sleep and I awoke to a phone call at 1PM from someone asking me if I was OK.

So everything is fine and I will continue on this path to jump back into the article ASAP and get it posted. Thankfully, Kerry's offer of a radio show allowed me to get out the most critical information right away.

I have also now been contacted by the Dragon Family representatives associated with the lawsuit, and as a result of this threat, I have been told to relay the following:

IF ANYTHING FURTHER HAPPENS TO DAVID WILCOCK, OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS CASE, WE WILL OPEN THE BOOK OF CODES AND THE BOOK OF MAKLUMAT TO THE PUBLIC AND YOUR ASSES WILL BE HAULED OFF TO JAIL. STAND DOWN IMMEDIATELY.

I was additionally told that the entire network of international protection surrounding this case has now been extended to me. For all those helping on all these different levels, I do thank you.

Thankyou Misericordia!

Where did you find this info? it's not in his blog on DC, just checked....

Mercury is playing his pranks upon us through disinformation and misunderstandings, more information to come. Don't make any final decisions until Mercury has gained his normal speed, he just started to move, slowly...

[13th Warrior]

Just listening now; perhaps the wee people are watching?

David and Kerry have been told to spill the beans...all the beans...so, let's have it!

[9eagle9]

Yes damn them! WE should be hoarding all that gold.


Monopoly money.

And a very simple question here. Where did all this gold COME from and that may be a determining factor in who (0r what)it should be rightfully returned to. If it is indeed stolen, then it should be returned to wherever it first originated?



I'm currently not missing a metric ton of gold from under my mattress so I'm thinking I'm not going to be expecting that any of it will be returned to me because it was never mine to begin with. Neither was I missing it either though. Neither was probably a lot of people until this revelation was made . I'm going to project a bit here but if a lot of people start thinking that gold is rightfully theirs...this is PROBABLy not, given what we've observed of human nature, to be an abatement of conflict but a circumstance for creating more if we don't pause for a moment and start untwisting our knickers over it.

Kudo's though for intitating yet a new and clever expression of "Poverty Consciousness"

Because we are now very conscious that someone else has something that we 'think' rightfully belonged to us.

.....but did it?

So I'm under the impression that, much like our current tottering fiat money system, releasing yay so many metric tons of gold into the world will render it ...what? Not Scarce? So that which is plentifiul is ...what? Value is derived from scarcity...and ....and.....and.....?????????

It would very interesting if people stopped assigning labels to that gold like "mine' or scarce and started making it meaningless in relation to one's self and then see what happens.

...indiffrence may be callous and beastly but it certainly gets the job done.


The gold “Anonymus” has spoken of belongs to the people of the world.

The treasure is gigantic. It contains 20 Million metric tons of gold, silver, platinum, gems, aluminum, enough money to make every person on this planet a millionaire, plus artifacts.

The treasure was administered by an organisation called Office of International Treasury Control OITC until the end of 2010. The OITC, although connected to the United Nations, had the status of a sovereign entity. At the end of 2010 it was taken over by the White Dragon Society (in my opinion these are NOT the good ones as Mr. Fulford wants to make us believe, although they might not follow the same fascist-zionist agenda of the western cabal).

If you take your time to listen to the interviews below you will find out a lot more about the treasure of the OITC, which is also known as “Foundation Divine”, its history which goes back to the time of the French Revolution and even further and what has happened to the head of the OITC Dr. Ray Dam at the end of 2010. You will also hear more about Neil Keenan (who is obviously a part of the rogue CIA-faction) and many other interesting things. Unfortunately I didn’t manage to make a transcription of the interviews, maybe some of you mother tongue speakers can provide us with a summary?

Links to the three radio shows Rayelan did with David Sale

1. Radio show April 7, 2011

http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10407hour2.mp3


2. Radio show April 12, 2011
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio...10412hour3.mp3


3. Radio show of May 10, 2011
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour1.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour2.mp3
http://radio.rumormillnews.com/audio/davidsale/20110510hour3.mp3


If you like to do some further research go to the OITC website www.unoitc.org, which is still available. If you want to know more about Dr. Ray C. Dam who was head of the OITC until December 2010 go here http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking96.htm

More information on this topic is also available on the archives of www.rumormillnews.com or here http://abundanthope.net/pages/Whistleblower_and_OITC_114/index.shtml

I am following this OITC story since two years because I was translating some of the messages of OITC-Whistleblower and David Sale that were published on www.AbundantHope.net into German.

[YvonneG]

Thankyou Misericordia!

Where did you find this info? it's not in his blog on DC, just checked....

.

Everything is here, you have to scroll down the page ...http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny


;)

[Billy]

That was a genuine Irish accent, A wee tad exaggirated. I liked it when he said. "We are family, look after each other" . Bless him.
Be steadfast David, your compassion will overcome all obsticles.

TNAQ8LLptUo

[transiten]

Thankyou Misericordia!

Where did you find this info? it's not in his blog on DC, just checked....

.

Everything is here, you have to scroll down the page ...http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny


;)

OK Thanks! Wasn't scrolling down, time is late been on the computor all day, have to go to bed.

[modwiz]

Jack:


If this Drama goes on for too much longer, without anything of (Substance) surfacing in the next few weeks - say End of December 2011...

Set aside Fulford alleged capture and Wilcock alleged death threat for a minute.

Don't you find the details laid out in the public domain regarding the lawsuit ... of substance???

Yes, I do but why isn't the likes of Jeff Rense who knows Fulford better than most about reporting on it..?

Why did he show him the door in the 1st place..?

Ben was spouting his stuff on several other radio shows before he came and knocked on Wilcock's door..!

Then all of a sudden 'Kapow' the Drama started...

Its, like we are continually being Dragged On & On with no end in sight...

It's extremely Frustrating IMHO...:faint:

Jeff Rense and Fulford parted ways over Fu kushima. Rense is pushing the radioactivity big time on his portal. Ben states that it is safe there and that is why he continues to live there. Rense showed Ben the door for not supporting the deadly radioactivity story.

I have no opinion I wish to share.

[Kimberley]

Latest update from David


UPDATE THURSDAY 2:08 PM: ALL IS WELL

I stayed up pretty late last night but did not finish the piece yet. I took SAM-e and GABA to help me sleep and I awoke to a phone call at 1PM from someone asking me if I was OK.

So everything is fine and I will continue on this path to jump back into the article ASAP and get it posted. Thankfully, Kerry's offer of a radio show allowed me to get out the most critical information right away.

I have also now been contacted by the Dragon Family representatives associated with the lawsuit, and as a result of this threat, I have been told to relay the following:

IF ANYTHING FURTHER HAPPENS TO DAVID WILCOCK, OR ANYONE ELSE ON THIS CASE, WE WILL OPEN THE BOOK OF CODES AND THE BOOK OF MAKLUMAT TO THE PUBLIC AND YOUR ASSES WILL BE HAULED OFF TO JAIL. STAND DOWN IMMEDIATELY.

I was additionally told that the entire network of international protection surrounding this case has now been extended to me. For all those helping on all these different levels, I do thank you.


UPDATE THURSDAY, 2:42 PM: COMMERCIAL-FREE YOUTUBE VERSION NOW ONLINE

I just checked my Skype and found that the commercial-free version of this show has now been uploaded to YouTube. This is another key way of getting the word out... so here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcy0X5w3KwU

[WhiteFeather]

It only happened when mr O'nonimus was telling us about not to worry 'bout a thing. cos everything is gona be alright.

Sentimental Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Not only is David and Ben going to be ok, but all our children and grandchildren. I can die happier now, whenever that will be.

Stan

Can you give us a brief review of what you heard Arunak.

[baddbob]

Ive always heard Bill and Kerry talk about "the source" and I think I just heard from him wonderful news and hope :ufo:

[karelia]

For all who are waiting for the transcript, it is in progress. I find it highly ironic that I'm unable to access the site we use to coordinate transcriptions. Since I've not received any notifications in the last 4 hours or so, I'm assuming the others involved may also have trouble accessing it.

[Cartomancer]

He definitely sounds scared. I don't think he is faking that. He needs to calm down. i have been threatened many times and it does a number on you. It might be someone scaring him that enjoys sick crap like that. There are people out there who get their jollies doing things like that.

[aranuk]

It only happened when mr O'nonimus was telling us about not to worry 'bout a thing. cos everything is gona be alright.

Sentimental Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Not only is David and Ben going to be ok, but all our children and grandchildren. I can die happier now, whenever that will be.

Stan

Can you give us a brief review of what you heard Arunak.

Whitefeather Sir, I will cerpently do when I come back in an hour or so.

Stan

[CeltMan]

Very Interesting thread.

It was at 333 posts when I 'tuned in a few hours ago'

The thread had just started, but not the live interview when I retired to bed at 0200 here in UK

Never would have expeceted such a dramatic turn of events.

Have now waded through ALL the posts, and listened to the interview with Kerry & David + 'De Oirish/Oz fella', + lady.

That will teach me for 'having a life ouside of this forum', and having to spend most of the day 'dealing with a dead car'!!...lol

All fascinating stuff, I also wonder who that Irish/Oz' fellow was (Yes a definite twang of Oz/Austrailian, even a New Zealander?) under that Irish brogue..'to be sure, to be sure, & top of the milk tae ye all, begorrah'.

And how did he 'appear on the show'?

He certainly had some strong messages.

Here is another thought,... 'to throw into the mix'...what if he were from the future?
That would at least explain: why he eluded to be 'speaking from soooo far away, that you would not even believe it'; how he knows so much about us, -and specific individuals; would have access to way advanced technology; has been 'managing the situation for over 1000 years'; is able to predict how things are going to turn out in the distant future for Mankind.

Lets face it, if we had access to time travel technology in the future, wouldn't a 'committee of benvolent humans' consider using it, to travel back, and change history//save mankind from a major imminent catastrophy?

Anyway, we shall just have to patiently await D.W's release of this expected data?

Which reminds me,... 'note to self' must spend less time here, and more on reading his new book, which I received last week!....lol

[Turcurulin]

Hi all, let's remain positive and send this energy onto all of the whistle-blowers and truth givers, specifically David Wilcock, Dutchsinse, and Ben Fulford. It's clear that their current problems are connected and only validates the desperation of the powers-that-be. Hang in there, guys! We're almost there. Our collective Consciousness is with you!

[modwiz]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

Well why don't you step up tp the plate and do the job yourself then?

I've spent my entire adult life working for a better future, I dug tunnels and built tree houses to protect forests, I tried working within the system to change things like when I went to Brussels and had 2 days of direct
Intimidation from the security forces, I've created self sufficiency gardens, taught countless people how to feed themselves, stood against lines of riot police in protests, read for tens of thousands of hours to understand what was happening, there's a lot more but I think you get the point that I haven't been idle. What I didn't do was stand in the spotlight and scream LOOK AT ME!!!

How about you?

Guess what, if we didn't have people who "stood in the spotlight" we would have no alternative community and know nothing about what we know now. Sometimes it's not about ego but about helping humanity.

Here is ego: " I do all kinds of great stuff for humanity and don't ask for anything. I am so humble and superior I don't need any recognition thats just how I am."

This is the point where I said in my rough transcript that Kerry saved him from himself by shifting things. It was not a good moment for him. He is under the microscope more than ever. He would be well advised to 'dig himself'. I apologize to non English speakers for the use of this colloquialism. I am sure google can handle it.

[YvonneG]

I would like to meet someone who doesn't have ego :confused:

[transiten]

I would like to meet someone who doesn't have ego :confused:

I don't think you ever will in this 3D exprience anyway. A healthy ego is necessary in the human experience, the thing is it should not be in charge.

[derek]

Do take this with a (slight) bit of humor, but considering many of the comments here that are either putting David down or dismissing the lawsuit, I wonder - if anything, we should be considered as friends to him in general... I´d hate to be reading through the forum of his enemies.

UT

I don't really mean to put him down, I don't even know the man and a lot of what he says makes sense. His source field investigations was a good and honest work as far as I could see BUT there also seems to be a huge amount of ego based cr*p and sensationalist rubbish not backed up by anything except hearsay coming out of his site. This stuff is critically important. The lives of a great percentage of the human race is at stake and we have all these self publicising tossp*ts muddying the waters with rubbish and to be quite frank right now Wilcock looks like one of them. We need a clear picture to try and do something about this mess and what you're seeing in my posts today is my abject exasperation at the sheer volume of lies we have to wade through just because some twerps want to feel important. As I said, if I'm wrong about him I'll apologise on his own site but there are too many datapoints suggesting that this is a load of codswallop.

Well why don't you step up tp the plate and do the job yourself then?

I've spent my entire adult life working for a better future, I dug tunnels and built tree houses to protect forests, I tried working within the system to change things like when I went to Brussels and had 2 days of direct
Intimidation from the security forces, I've created self sufficiency gardens, taught countless people how to feed themselves, stood against lines of riot police in protests, read for tens of thousands of hours to understand what was happening, there's a lot more but I think you get the point that I haven't been idle. What I didn't do was stand in the spotlight and scream LOOK AT ME!!!

How about you?

Guess what, if we didn't have people who "stood in the spotlight" we would have no alternative community and know nothing about what we know now. Sometimes it's not about ego but about helping humanity.

Here is ego: " I do all kinds of great stuff for humanity and don't ask for anything. I am so humble and superior I don't need any recognition thats just how I am."

This is the point where I said in my rough transcript that Kerry saved him from himself by shifting things. It was not a good moment for him. He is under the microscope more than ever. He would be well advised to 'dig himself'. I apologize to non English speakers for the use of this colloquialism. I am sure google can handle it.

I actually wasn't talking about David in that post. I was talking about "joedjamal". :)

[TraineeHuman]

It’s really rather easy to criticise. With a little training, such as a college degree, you can even learn to do it very well. It’s a thousand times harder, maybe a million times harder, to create.

And people who create make more mistakes than all the critics put together. I’ve known many truly extraordinary people in my life from close up, and they all had weaknesses. They all made huge errors of judgment which they never managed to correct and probably will die, or died, still the same old way.

I have always had some reservations about David, because his energies have always dowsed as being well-intentioned but interfered with in a subtle way. No doubt this has been because at least one of his insiders has relentlessly been taking him all the way down the garden path. So yes, I agree that the disinfo parts of some of David’s material mislead us. But there always seems to be more valid info than there is disinfo. You just have to way it up piece by piece. Indeed, the reason he’s fed disinfo is obviously because he regularly comes up with info which is “embarrassing” because it is on the bulls-eye.

On the other hand, David amazes me every single time with his ability to articulate passion for saving humanity and the planet. Also with his ability, every single time, to produce extensively researched details and facts at least some of which are important and telling and probably do move the goalposts to our advantage. Also, David works so hard, I believe genuine and pure passion is the only thing that can give a person the energy to drive that level of hard work.

On this occasion, my dowsing suggests that this issue really is big, and true. As the serenely wise Irishman said, it’s important to put all the facts out there and hold nothing back. Catch them with their pants down. As the Irishman also suggested, though, this is only one step in a long process. As he said, it will be a very glorious process, and it has already begun – at last!

My dowsing suggests the Irishman was totally true and trustworthy. But I’ll dowse again tomorrow, about him, and David, and Ben. In the meanwhile, for today, I’ll stay with the best hypothesis -- that this issue is big and true, even if not entirely quite as big as David sees it or would like to believe it is.

We have to wait, but that doesn’t mean we get passive. We keep seeking the best hypothesis, and talk about that with anyone who will listen seriously.

[derek]

Here is Rayelans explosive new post on Rumor Mill News

"David Wilcock Mentioned David Guyatt - I was one of David's Source's for the Information on the Philippine Gold Treaty

Posted By: Rayelan
Date: Thursday, 15-Dec-2011 19:06:48
We have many new readers, and now I realize that even people I considered friends never took the time to learn about what Gunther and I did in 1994 when we transferred 500,000 metric tonnes of gold from where it had been hidden since 1955, back to the Austria and the former countries that made up the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

I have been telling people since 1994 about the 50+ year plan to bankrupt ALL the member banks that make up the Federal Reserve Banking System.

You can read about this plan in this article:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=14289

In 1994 Gunther and I, along with many other people, successfully concluded the largest gold transfer in history.

If you want to read about this, here is the link to David Guyatt's page: THE SECRET GOLD TREATY

The documents you see are ones that I faxed to Guyatt for inclusion in his book.

Letter from Gunther Russbacher to Gabriel Singson of the Philippine Central Bank

OFFER TO SELL - Letter to Dr. Werner Metz of the Austrian Central Bank from the Philippine Central Bank offering to sell a vast amount of gold...

From Deep Black Lies -- http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secretgoldtreaty/secret_treaty_part%202.1.htm

Russbacher told the BBC journalist that huge quantities of Nazi gold had been shipped to South America, via Spain, just prior to the close of World War II. The loot had sat in South America for a number of years, but as soon as its existence became known to Israeli intelligence the plunder was immediately transferred to the Philippines and hidden, Russbacher said.

Over a year after my interview with Russbacher, I was put in contact with Ken Krohn, who I was told was a business associate of Russbacher's. I telephoned Krohn in California on 27 February 1998, telling him I was conducting research into black market gold deals. He immediately asked if I had been speaking to Russbacher. At that time, I had not, and I told him so. Krohn then stated that he was a member of "Gunther's Team" and had acted in the role of "Stateside Anchor." Krohn then asked me to call him back the following Tuesday so that he could, in the meantime, refresh his memory from his files. He had, he said "names, dates, files. It'll make your hair curl."

The gold from these transfers is going to be used to BACK currency... WORLDWIDE. The first currency to be backed in the Euro. The Dinar has been gold backed for some time. The ONE major currency that is NOT gold backed is the DOLLAR. The dollar will become WORTHLESS unless the United States returns to a gold backed currency.

These are the links containing the information that I faxed to Guyatt in 1996 and 97. I have tonnes more of this information on the gold that is stored in the Philippines and around the rest of the world. The one thing David is right about is that there is more gold in the world than anyone can imagine.

The thing he has wrong is who owns the gold and who hid it.

The sovereign leaders of the nations that the illuminati raped and pillaged are the ones who joined together to hid their gold. The HID it from the illuminati who would have stolen it.

It was hidden so that at one day in the future the vanished nations of the world could rise again and restore the wealth of their people to their people.

These families are all related by blood. It started with King Solomon's daughter by the Queen of Sheba. Her children intermarried... as did their children until a time came that all the ruling families of the world were related by blood. These families were murdered and their kingdoms were destroyed.

When I married Gunther, it took me a long time to for me to grasp what was really going on. The people with whom Gunther and I worked, were from the Philippines, to China to all of the countries in Europe... and off world.

If you have read the Obergon Chronicles, you know that some of our gold has always been taken back to the home world to keep the atmosphere in tact so that the original bodies can continue to live until the time that everyone is here on earth.

There is so much more to this story that David Wilcock can imagine. it would take me weeks to bring him up to speed. If any of you who know my version of this story would like to try to bring him up to speed, you are welcome. IMO he would have to read the Obergon Chronicles, read all the articles Gunther wrote on the gold transfer... and then listen to all 9 hours of David Sales interviews.

There's not much more I can do. I have been telling this story since 1994. It appears that David Wilcock was not familiar with this part of my story.

Here are some of the links to the documents I faxed to David Guyatt. Most of the information I gave to Guyatt was over the telephone.

I typed this letter
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secretgoldtreaty/russbacher1.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secretgoldtreaty/russbacher2.htm

The handwriting on this one that names Imelda Marcos... is my handwriting
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secretgoldtreaty/russbacher3.htm

This document was handwritten by a colleague with whom I am still working.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/secretgoldtreaty/russbacher4.htm

Here's the page where I am mentioned
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_gold02a.htm

Rayelan Russbacher, tells a tale that is identical to Krohn's account in all material respects, except as to the quantities of gold involved. In early May 2000, Rayelan Russbacher faxed me copies of about 30 documents relating to her former husband’s gold deal as described above. The code name for the transaction was “White Robe/150-920-458." The documents she faxed show that the intended transaction was, in fact, a series of between ten and 50 transactions, each involving a quantity of 2,500 metric tonnes of gold negotiated at a discount rate of 10% (rather than the 11.6% rate described by Krohn). Additionally, the commitments for these transactions could be “rolled over” and “extended” up to a total of 500,000 metric tonnes.

A first “test” tranche of 2,500 tonnes with a face value of approximately US$30 billion was called for (giving a price of about $370 per ounce). This staggering deal, if consummated in full, had a price tag of US$6 trillion – equivalent to the current US national debt!

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At today's price, the 500,000 metric tonnes equals

500,000 metric tonnes = 551,155.655 t(US)
OR 551.155 t(US) and 13.10 cwt(US)

1 short ton = 29 166.6667 troy ounce

$1575.80 gold closes today

Someone else can do the math and figure out how much money the $500,000 metric tonnes would be worth today.

BTW... the Scottish Irishman who was talking to David is the same Shamus who worked with me for over ten years and then married me off to Gunther. Shamus is a starship captain. He is Gunther's higher self and now that I have heard his again, I know where Gunther is these days! And I hope to hell those of you who know what he is capable of are shaking in your Texan boots!"



http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=224559

[transiten]

Great post TraineeHuman!

I'm training also very hard to become "fully human" as i just stated in another post:violin:

[Little Ishta]

This Anon person has gotten everyone thinking of who he just is. I have been to other forums and there has been comments made on who he might be... some suggested Merlin, then St. Germaine, then it was a Galactic Warrior. Obviously they felt that same offplanet energetic Anomoly LOL.
And about the hard times he had mentioned, I was wondering if he meant the ones who have not awakened yet (to the truth that is) will have the hard times adjusting. Just a thought I'd throw out there. Goodness knows what he meant, but he did keep on saying The Truth. Really makes you wonder. The thoughts and ideas that are running through my mind.....:unsure:

[mountain_jim]

I am in awe of all the odd bits and pieces this story is connecting.

[transiten]

I am in awe of all the odd bits and pieces this story is connecting.

Well same here! Who can provide David with the information from Rayelan? I've listened to her radioshow interviewing David if i'm not mistaken...

[modwiz]

Well why don't you step up tp the plate and do the job yourself then?
I've spent my entire adult life working for a better future, I dug tunnels and built tree houses to protect forests, I tried working within the system to change things like when I went to Brussels and had 2 days of direct
Intimidation from the security forces, I've created self sufficiency gardens, taught countless people how to feed themselves, stood against lines of riot police in protests, read for tens of thousands of hours to understand what was happening, there's a lot more but I think you get the point that I haven't been idle. What I didn't do was stand in the spotlight and scream LOOK AT ME!!!

How about you?

Guess what, if we didn't have people who "stood in the spotlight" we would have no alternative community and know nothing about what we know now. Sometimes it's not about ego but about helping humanity.

Here is ego: " I do all kinds of great stuff for humanity and don't ask for anything. I am so humble and superior I don't need any recognition thats just how I am."

This is the point where I said in my rough transcript that Kerry saved him from himself by shifting things. It was not a good moment for him. He is under the microscope more than ever. He would be well advised to 'dig himself'. I apologize to non English speakers for the use of this colloquialism. I am sure google can handle it.

I actually wasn't talking about David in that post. I was talking about "joedjamal". :)

My bad. Oops. :doh: David was going off on a similar direction last night also. Interesting situation here, eh? Thanks for pointing it out.

[Taurean]

wuffy puffy stuff ---- LOL----------- Lock n Load, lets get this place cleaned up !!!

[YvonneG]

That was a genuine Irish accent, A wee tad exaggirated. I liked it when he said. "We are family, look after each other" . Bless him.
Be steadfast David, your compassion will overcome all obsticles.

TNAQ8LLptUo

How very coool...I got up and danced when I listened to this. WE ARE FAMILY! :clap2:

[Wind]

David is a spiritually strong guy. He knows that he has support of tens of thousands of people, hell maybe even hundreds of thousands. They just want to make him scared, but I don't think they have succeeded in that. We are in the endgame. It's not over, till it's over. 2012 is the year of transformation. Nothing will ever be the same for mankind.

[Zillah]

Strength in LOVE my friends!!! amazing indeed <3

[modwiz]

I would like to meet someone who doesn't have ego :confused:

Ego are like dogs and can be great sources of fun and adventure. Who is walking who is important, however. We all have had moments when ego took to much of the spotlight and makes us look silly. Good and healthy love of self arises from be pleased with the function of our egos.


Last night was an incredible experience. The energy was very yummy with a real sense of community and purpose.

[Zillah]

Like I mentioned in the other thread, I definitely among the rest of you felt a serious energy shift yesterday, that final reassurance I needed (and didn't even know I did) that we , the ones that tell the truth and never compromise are protected and everything really is going to be okay. It was one of the most profound experiences I've had in a long time that I can remember. It will be us champions for the truth, that will rule the day that the Cabal are hung on the steps of the Nations Capital.

DreamsInDigital I didnt see your post but IM WITH YOU. Not only myself, but my mother as well experienced very odd/random and jolting physical pain that came out of nowhere last night. We sat in the hallway together as we both wandered over to the kitchen area because we couldnt sleep. I asked her what it was, and she couldn't explain why or from where but there was definitely a disturbance in the field and we were both picking up on it very strongly. This morning after I opened my email I thought to myself-- aha - I get it now! Both my mother's and my pain decided to subside about an hour after we listened to the interview, however we're both left in this haze - Its been a real trip today, in all ways.

We are all indeed connected, beyond face, beyond voice, beyond <this>.

[feardia]

I was listening to this story this morning and the name abraxas sprang to mind as soon as i heard anonymous speak...
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No one in ireland speaks like that, but non-irish people think we do.

[Cottage Rose]

New on DW Blog:

UPDATE THURSDAY, 5:31 PM: GOING ON COAST TONIGHT

Coast-to-Coast AM with George Noory was apparently bombarded with emails of people who were very concerned about this death threat I received.

To increase my own security and help the story break out to a wider audience for everyone's best protection, I will be appearing as of 10PM Pacific time for 2-3 minutes to give a brief overview of what happened.

In the meantime I have been going through email back-and-forths with the interviewees for Part Two. Since this was all done in writing, it's important we get it right.

I may just release all the interviews as Part Two and then write a larger summary later on. That way we do not suffer further delays.

[norman]

New on DW Blog:

UPDATE THURSDAY, 5:31 PM: GOING ON COAST TONIGHT

Coast-to-Coast AM with George Noory was apparently bombarded with emails of people who were very concerned about this death threat I received.

To increase my own security and help the story break out to a wider audience for everyone's best protection, I will be appearing as of 10PM Pacific time for 2-3 minutes to give a brief overview of what happened.

In the meantime I have been going through email back-and-forths with the interviewees for Part Two. Since this was all done in writing, it's important we get it right.

I may just release all the interviews as Part Two and then write a larger summary later on. That way we do not suffer further delays.

hello Cottage Rose. I'm not a member of atticus1 so I don't have a clue what goes on there but has atticus had anything interesting to say about this topic yet?

I ask, because that anonimous person on the phone spoke of stuff that rang a similar bell as some of the stuff atticus was talking about.

[jp11]

I have not yet had a chance to listen to even the first interview with David and Ben. I was in the process of beginning that last night and then saw the thread about the threat towards David on PA...so I started following that thread while trying to get myself ready for work the next day...in and out and checking PA, etc.

I had tried earlier to listen to the interview with Kerry and David and couldn't get in, and then it was closed. But I was aware the interview was going to be released an hour after the show with Kerry. By that time it was past time for me to get to bed.

This morning I checked in quickly before I left for work...it has been so challenging not to have this available to me all day...

But the reason for this post, when I came in from work I saw this on Divine Cosmos
UPDATE THURSDAY, 5:31 PM: GOING ON COAST TONIGHT

Coast-to-Coast AM with George Noory was apparently bombarded with emails of people who were very concerned about this death threat I received.

To increase my own security and help the story break out to a wider audience for everyone's best protection, I will be appearing as of 10PM Pacific time for 2-3 minutes to give a brief overview of what happened.

In the meantime I have been going through email back-and-forths with the interviewees for Part Two. Since this was all done in writing, it's important we get it right.

I may just release all the interviews as Part Two and then write a larger summary later on. That way we do not suffer further delays.

So it sounds like things are progressing well. Great to read. And I hope I can at least listen to the latest interview with Kerry, David and anonymous this evening. Having to work when stuff like this is going on is not fun. :)

Thanks to you all for these amazing updates.

:wave:

[DreamsInDigital]

I have thought for the longest time that we are all part of the universal consciousness and yet individuals to at the same time. I'm going to throw my 2 cents in on that White Knight of David's that stepped in. I am with out a doubt in my mind sure he is a Tau Cetian , from the 5th planet.

[Cottage Rose]

hello Cottage Rose. I'm not a member of atticus1 so I don't have a clue what goes on there but has atticus had anything interesting to say about this topic yet?

I ask, because that anonimous person on the phone spoke of stuff that rang a similar bell as some of the stuff atticus was talking about.

Hello Norman. :biggrin: I have never heard Atticus express an opinion on David Wilcock. He has been quite busy with other things.
Anonymous is a very different person than Atticus. Although, in my opinion, they share a trait of protecting those they care about.

[Thefrenzy1978]

This Anon person has gotten everyone thinking of who he just is. I have been to other forums and there has been comments made on who he might be... some suggested Merlin, then St. Germaine, then it was a Galactic Warrior. Obviously they felt that same offplanet energetic Anomoly LOL.
And about the hard times he had mentioned, I was wondering if he meant the ones who have not awakened yet (to the truth that is) will have the hard times adjusting. Just a thought I'd throw out there. Goodness knows what he meant, but he did keep on saying The Truth. Really makes you wonder. The thoughts and ideas that are running through my mind.....:unsure:

hehe offplanet maybe another dimension , its true what he said keep your family close you will need them more than you can possible imagine and in turn they will need you.

[jp11]

Dreams,

And info on Tau Cetian , from the 5th planet.?

[apokalypse]

Andromeda council perhaps?

[Earth Angel]

does anybody know who/what 'the 505' are ??? I googled but found nothing

[DreamsInDigital]

Dreams,
And info on Tau Cetian , from the 5th planet.?
That's pretty much all I know, I wasn't able to get any more specifics than that. There was on the other thread about the Threat, someone on that Rumor Mill site, said that he's a star ship captain. But, I knew he was an Off-Worlder the moment I heard him speak live on that interview. Then, he started talking more, and his words, energy etc. Just gave it away. The fifth planet that revolves around Tau Ceti has a odd mixture of earth human genetics with Off Worlder genetics, so they are Off Worlders but look almost exactly like earth humans, impossible to detect unless you have that ability, that radar that pics them out. Or they do something unusual that would give them away otherwise.

Andromeda council perhaps?
Possibly? I know the Tau Cetians are an Andromeda Council member Race. Also, Galatic Federation. But, my point was just that I'm in agreement with the others that are saying he's a 4D Off Worlder.

[DreamsInDigital]

Yeah, he's definitely an Off Worlder/Off Planet. I put my thoughts in the other thread about the David Wilcock interview.

@ Earth Angel,
That could be the designation for his group, or squad or what ever. I've never heard the term 505 used, I know what 5 by 5 means.

[Borden]

A: Is he dead yet?

B: does he have a book or a tour coming soon?

C: Have you ever heard of a death threat that was not 'very serious'?

The credulity is breathtaking. I have watched this man interviewed. Unbelievable. Really unbelievable.

Borden.

[modwiz]

I have thought for the longest time that we are all part of the universal consciousness and yet individuals to at the same time. I'm going to throw my 2 cents in on that White Knight of David's that stepped in. I am with out a doubt in my mind sure he is a Tau Cetian , from the 5th planet.

They apparently like using our English word, f*ck and f*cking in their language. Is that the signature of a 5th planet Tau Cetian?

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Andromeda council perhaps?

Well, as our 4-D man might say, "That's very fooking possible".

[aranuk]

Whitefeather asked me to give a brief review of what I heard. I will now tell you what I heard. Only my hearing sense was involved here. And as WF asked me about what I heard I can reply that my hearing sense was the only one that I used for this. Firstly I heard Kerry introducing the guests . She introduced David, then Maxime the astrology lady and another guest who would remain nameless and said he was called Anonomus. The astrology lady sounded empty of wisdom. David sounded grief stricken and Mr O'nonomus sounded Irish. Kerry sounded in charge of the discussion. Now that's about it really. If Whitefeather would like me to tell what I thought about it I will relate what I thought about it. If he wants me to tell about what I felt about it, I can only say look at my first posts on this thread. In my first posts my heart was feeling everything. I do not question my heart . My heart tells me everything I need to understand. My mind on the other hand has loads of questions unanswered. Who is the Irish guy? Which group does he belong to/with? Why was he invited? Does Kerry know him by name? Does David know of him? Is he of this planet? Is he human? Is he from another dimension? Was he threatening David with anything if he was not entirely truthful? He mentioned that he could torture someone after they died in the physical for thousands of years. Was he bluffing? Was he telling the truth?
The mystery man with the Irish accent, who is he? What is he? Where is he? When is he? Which plane is he from? Which Universe is he from? Where in Ireland is he from? What is his background? My mind is boggled. WhiteFeather what do you think kiddo?

Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

They apparently like using our English word, f*ck and f*cking in their language. Is that the signature of a 5th planet Tau Cetian?[COLOR="red"]

I've never spoken to one personally, so I wouldn't be able to tell you that. But, I would think it would be possible, specially with his attempts at "fitting in". Just, some of the words he used etc, gave him away to me.


The mystery man with the Irish accent, who is he? What is he? Where is he? When is he? Which plane is he from? Which Universe is he from? Where in Ireland is he from? What is his background? My mind is boggled. WhiteFeather what do you think kiddo?

Stan
The Irish Accent was fake, it was done to disguise his voice, otherwise he wouldn't have been permitted to speak. And, I've posted my other thoughts regarding this White Knight, so to speak. Just scroll up a couple post :)

[DreamsInDigital]

I've heard of many death threats that were practically meaningless. I had several against me, my mother had this one job where they were made against her boss on a weekly if not almost daily basis. And, well I'm still alive and so is he. Death threats are like darts, they sure as hell hurt but some miss and others hit their target.

[risveglio]

Is the full interview posted in this thread or is this the one with missing pieces?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36825-Wilcock-on-Camelot-radio-about-death-threat-12-14-11

Any idea who "anonymous" is? He definitely made it sound like he was off world and not exactly human. Saying he could get them after they die.

[DreamsInDigital]

read some of my last few post in this thread.

[WhiteFeather]

Whitefeather asked me to give a brief review of what I heard. I will now tell you what I heard. Only my hearing sense was involved here. And as WF asked me about what I heard I can reply that my hearing sense was the only one that I used for this. Firstly I heard Kerry introducing the guests . She introduced David, then Maxime the astrology lady and another guest who would remain nameless and said he was called Anonomus. The astrology lady sounded empty of wisdom. David sounded grief stricken and Mr O'nonomus sounded Irish. Kerry sounded in charge of the discussion. Now that's about it really. If Whitefeather would like me to tell what I thought about it I will relate what I thought about it. If he wants me to tell about what I felt about it, I can only say look at my first posts on this thread. In my first posts my heart was feeling everything. I do not question my heart . My heart tells me everything I need to understand. My mind on the other hand has loads of questions unanswered. Who is the Irish guy? Which group does he belong to/with? Why was he invited? Does Kerry know him by name? Does David know of him? Is he of this planet? Is he human? Is he from another dimension? Was he threatening David with anything if he was not entirely truthful? He mentioned that he could torture someone after they died in the physical for thousands of years. Was he bluffing? Was he telling the truth?
The mystery man with the Irish accent, who is he? What is he? Where is he? When is he? Which plane is he from? Which Universe is he from? Where in Ireland is he from? What is his background? My mind is boggled. WhiteFeather what do you think kiddo?

Stan

That was fooking awesome. Wanishi. W.f.

[Taurean]

A: Is he dead yet?

B: does he have a book or a tour coming soon?

C: Have you ever heard of a death threat that was not 'very serious'?

The credulity is breathtaking. I have watched this man interviewed. Unbelievable. Really unbelievable.

Borden.

Maybe should have used the word "credible " rather than serious ?

[ViralSpiral]

The last time I cried tears of joy was when Nelson Mandella gave his speech at his inauguration whenever that was.

Stan


It is Truth & Reconciliation Day here in South Africa today. Serendipity.....
Nelson Mandela's speech was in 1994

"The time for the healing of the wounds has come.
The moment to bridge the chasms that divide us has come.
The time to build is upon us."


I have not had the chance to listen to the whole interview yet. Whatever ones thoughts/judgements/criticisms (____ place relevant adjective here) of DW, let's also remain respectful and "reasonable". For those wishing to call me a fool for hoping that the circus is finally leaving town, feel free. I am not affected by it :)



I for one, am thankful!

[Carmody]

Was he threatening David with anything if he was not entirely truthful?

I did not read it that way. I'll have to go back and check, but I think he was referring to if David was bothered or not. David would please answer in truth, not shadows and fears. Truth. So, if this gentlemen was to be protecting David ... well. Think about it. a test for two. A week down the road, a man comes and asks David: Has anyone been bothering you? Speak truthfully. (unspoken bit: lives are at stake)

[jackovesk]

Ok here goes...

1. I am only posting this because I want to get to the 'Truth' the whole 'Truth' and nothing but the 'Truth'..!

2. Many including myself, have asked 'Who is' the 'Anonymous Irishman'..? How did he learn of all this Drama going on with David Wilcock, the Ben Fulford Story and the subsequent 'Death Threat's', etc...

So today I offer you all a (Word for Word) Transcription (With Time-Stamps) of how the 'Anonymous Irishman' was (Introduced & How) he came about finding his way on to Kerry's Show with David Wilcock..?


The 'Anonymous Irishman'

Listen/Read this Carefully...Remember this a (Word for Word) Transcription (Please feel Free to Check it for Yourself)

@ 37.55 minutes

Kerry Cassidy:


Ok, where going to a break, we've got a person that is coming on the line shortly here...David would I know this Witness..?

David Wilcock:


Yes..

Kerry Cassidy:


Ok, Thankyou...


***Long Commercial/Music Break***

@43.40 Minutes

Kerry Cassidy:


Ok, now to take some of the heat off him, we are going to bring on a person who is working in a sensitive capacity around the world. he has the ability to get the right people involved to make sure David is protected. Let's put it that way! But this person will be 'Anonymous', they willbe familiar with the situation, so David is going to have to possibly repeat some of what he has already described when the person comes on the air...


***Short Intro/Hello from Kerry to schedueled Guest 'Maxine'***

@45.00 Minutes

Kerry Cassidy:


Ok, let's continue with the situation here...David what your gonna need to do, is go over the situation for our Caller...Caller are you on the Air here, we've got 'Anonymous' are you on the line..?

Anonymous:


I, your talking to me...

Kerry Cassidy:


Than you so much for coming on the call...I do understand that you work in a very sensitive capacity, that you were just notified of the situation with David Wilcock...that you are concerned. We welcome your prescense here on the Air with us tonight, David will be happy to Answer all of your Questions and will over everything for you...

David, say hello to 'Anonymous'...

David Wilcock:


Hi there...

Anonymous:


Hi there David, I understand you've got a few problems there?

David Wilcock:


Yeh, ah...it has'nt been a very good day...

...and so it continues into the start of the (Full) interview with Kerry, David & Anonymous...

Here is a copy of the Radio Interview (http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-121411.mp3) to check it for yourself...

Again, my only Goal here is to get to the 'Truth' the whole 'Truth' and nothing but the 'Truth'..!

I would say, a couple of the 'Answers' to the some of the 'Questions' posed here @ Avalon have been given, not by me. But from the participants above, don't you..???

:behindsofa:


UPDATE: My Apologies, I stand corrected please see post #508...

[Cottage Rose]

David is on Coast to Coast now: http://www.iheart.com/#/live/177/?autoplay=true

[Jean-Luc]

Just a short note of caution here. Anonymou's extravagants claims and overall tone (and even his strong accent, though Irish not cockney :)) reminds me a bit of Atticus/Charles. I can understand Bill's wait & see position so far.

Also, David obviously is under very strong emotional stress which never is of great helps in terms of discernment and is actually a classical mind control technique used to spread disinformtion. Could be. Time will tell.

This being said, contrary to the whole Atticus deception, the strong point is the apparently very existence of this lawsuit which Fulford has been talking about for so long.


A: Let me take it straight to you. For all you viewers -- and you don't know this, David -- the gold you're talking about is a small amount of gold. It's not a lot of gold when you consider the amounts of gold we're dealing with. We deal with vast amounts far in excess of what you think you know about. The gold is so wide and so vast, that the real problem is how to keep it all down and keep it quiet. It doesn't matter. The [loan sale] days of all of it [can blow] diplomacy is long gone. And the low level fellows try to think that they somehow do anything. It's got nothing to do with it. And it's only these little lads who hang with the public service jobs want to create a little problem. Oh, let's create a big ****ing problem. Oh I'm a bit sorry, the language there. I've been out here in the field too long. But we know where they all live too. We know where all their families are. We know where everybody is.

Kerry: That's very important. I think it bears repeating. So caller, because your voice is a little faint... David, ______.

A: Well, I'm a long way away, lassie. If you only knew how far away I was.

Kerry: I'm sorry? ______

A: I said I tell you that I'm long... I'm so far away, you couldn't believe.

(Transcript's excerpt. Work in progress, produced by some brave members of the ATP translation team, including Karelia)