Constitutional protections in FEMA camps?

[spiritguide]

Since the activation of FEMA camps has commenced has anyone reviewed the legislation authorizing them? We do know that the operation for guards and support has been contracted out to civilian contractors, which brings up the point of whether these contractors and their employees swear an oath to the Constitution?

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[Unified Serenity]

I nearly spit out my drink! Constitutional rights in a fema camp? Let's re-examine the idea of putting American's in camps to begin with. lmfao

[Jonathon]

No offense intended spiritguide, but I hope you aren't suggesting that a structure and ideology built in direct opposition to the principles laid out in the Constitution and Bill of Rights will be subjected to or limited by an oath of office. Realize there is only ONE line of ink on either of those documents that these people care about, and that is your unlimited capacity to contract (REF: Voluntary Servitude).

Your 'rights' may be unalienable (and if they are, they cannot be granted by anything or anyone except for you), however each has every opportunity to volunteer them away. This is the whole premise it's all built on - your agreement! There are many ways to agree: actual agreement, tacit acquiescence, and refusal/dishonor -- each assumes a position on the issue at hand. If you have a position - regardless of which you take - there is an understood agreement. In any of those cases, when another facilitates or compels your agreement, you have been de-posed, or taken out of a position of authority. If you have no authority, you have no protection. This is also called personam jurisdiction - your unwitting granting and conveying of your rights and property to another (this is required by law enforcement in order to do anything to you legally/lawfully).

The only way out of it is to counter-offer (conditional acceptance) or to stay completely fluid (without position) by deposing the party with questions of your own, effectively reversing the process into your favor as the authority (asking = as-king = as-sovereign). Know and understand this and you will be way ahead of the game. They have nothing without agreement - EVERYTHING is built on it! Your free will is (apparently) crucial to them judging by the design. People just aren't educated and have no clue they have agreed to everything at every moment. The Constitution grants you nothing - the Rights are largely passive. The very second you act, you have potentially changed everything.

Lastly nearly all documents are written in past tense, which fictionalizes them - they aren't in the now, therefore everything they say WILL either exist at some point in the future or ALREADY existed and are no longer applicable. This is called the verb-adverb fiction. Unless a document is written in Quantum (REF: David Wynn Miller (http://www.davidwynnmiller.com/index.html))

See this video - which actually deserves it's own thread.
LINK: Quantum Language 1 of 17 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHcRWyB1wj0&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHcRWyB1wj0&feature=related

[spiritguide]

This thread was intended to provoke the discussion and subject at hand. Thank you for properly framing the discussion so that the un-informed can begin to understand the game afoot.

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[Jonathon]

You are quite welcome spiritguide. If you really want to know how things work and understand how to operate, this is the door you want to take. Realize too, knowledge is a hammer - if you lay it on the table next to the nail, it is useless. It requires your active use to be of any value. Just be careful not to hit your thumb :p

[Sebastion]

I would sincerely think that should the time arrive where people are being gathered up to haul off to a fema camp, it really isn't going to matter one way or another what your language skills are one way or another. My attorneys, Mr Smith and Wesson will do all the talking for me in that event!

[DreamsInDigital]

If the government thinks for one second they are going to get the opportunity to use these modern day concentration camps, they've got another thing coming.

[RMorgan]

If the government thinks for one second they are going to get the opportunity to use these modern day concentration camps, they've got another thing coming.

Agreed. What really impresses me is that they have these camps ready all over your country, everyone knows about them, as the US people don´t do absolutely nothing about it!!! How did they manage to get the US citizens so blind, so anesthetized???

I think that if it was happening on any country in Europe, or even in South-America, the media and the masses would be all over it!!!

You´ve got to ask your government what are these camps? Why did you build them? What are you planning to do with them?

As far as I know, there´s no official explanation about these camps, right? Please, if I´m wrong, I´d like to read such official explanation.

Raf.

[Mad Hatter]

I was under the impression the US has been running under martial law since declaring bankruptcy in the early 1900's which effectively suspends the constitution anyway.

IIRC thats how Bush was able to sign off on the North American Union without referencing anyone else.

Alongside Messrs Smith & Wesson uncle Mossberg is a pretty handy 'beak' as well... :p

[RMorgan]

I was under the impression the US has been running under martial law since declaring bankruptcy in the early 1900's which effectively suspends the constitution anyway.

IIRC thats how Bush was able to sign off on the North American Union without referencing anyone else.

Alongside Messrs Smith & Wesson uncle Mossberg is a pretty handy 'beak' as well... :p

Hey Mad Hatter,

I think the vision that guns will protect you in such situation is very limited and indoctrinated. Usually, USA citizens tend to think that owning guns is the answer to all problems, but it isn´t.

Lets suppose that, these camps get activated and an army troop would be sent to your neighborhood to take you and your family there. Do you think you have a chance? Do you realize that, if you start shooting, they will shoot back, killing you and your whole family in the process?

In such crazy situations, all you think is about the safety of your loved ones. Even if it sounds terrible, it´s better to let you and your family be taken to one of these camps in one piece, than to start a fight that would result in you and your family to be taken to the morgue inside black plastic bags.

When you get in survival mode, you just live one day at a time.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Lifebringer]

Lockheed, Halliburton, Bush Drug Crime syndicate and the wealthy twisted elite pay them. And somewhere there are electronic payment transfers under a front company like Blackwater. It's about time the okeys picked up on the crooks who are backed by wall st bankers and warmongers who put the NeoconMen in. They are all behind the NAZI resistance and backed with the KKK leaders. It's a funky kettle of fish, but not one unknown. Forewarned is forearmed.

Remember, WE the people of the world are not alone and OUR GOD Source is AWSOME and knowledgeable of all that goes on. The Tea party was the last of the population to realize, they were in bed with the REEMERS of Man and woman kind for the last 3 centuries with different names for each millenia. They have merged and united, and so much we with our mental capacity to end their reign. Today is the day and i am focusing on what I will do when the time comes tonight to do just that.

WE all should focus on awakening the rest of the masses, and shutting down the murderers of the future, but incarcerating them and any supreme court justice that supports the robbing of the citizens and government under fraudulent profiteering.

Think about the wrongs and let's get them right for the future or our children and children's children.

God Speed.

[DreamsInDigital]

Agreed. What really impresses me is that they have these camps ready all over your country, everyone knows about them, as the US people don´t do absolutely nothing about it!!! How did they manage to get the US citizens so blind, so anesthetized???
Raf.
Seriously without intentionally trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist. Why do you think they put the Fluoride in the water in the first place? It makes Terrans un-resistant to Tyranny. Then they have Fluoride in the mouthwash, fluoride in the toothpaste. Fluoride is only second in Toxicity to Arsenic. Then, there is Arsenic in Apple Juice, Chicken, and several other things here that are consumed on a regular basis. Then, you throw in the Neuro-toxic artificial sweeteners like Aspartame (which is: Embalming Fluid, Fire Ant Venom and 2 Central Nervous System Toxins), Sucralose/Splenda/Equal which is 99.999% Chlorine and the last part is Sugar. Hook them all up to Television which Tells them What to Think, Not How To Think. Then force them to believe in an archaic belief system which was invented to control mass amounts of people under a false god that was created by the Roman Catholics about 3,000 some odd years ago. Throw in the rest of that Mind Control Crap they were given by the Regressive Greys and Draco/Hydra Reptilians. And, bam. You get Insanity like what we're dealing with now. Plus, my dear. It's very very easy to control and manipulate mass amounts of Terrans when they are in a constant state of fear. Why do you think they "invented" this false War On Terrorism in the first place? Or 9-11 was permitted to happen?

[Jonathon]

@ Sebastion - has less to do with language and more to do with *who you know you are*. Are you going to act like the slave or the king? The king requires no weapon. Only a slave would dishonor in such a way.

@ DreamsInDigital - I don't think they plan on sending invitations nor soldiers to snatch you - they are much too clever for that. When it happens, you will find yourself wondering why one side of you actually agrees with the reasoning behind it (via an epic natural disaster or conflict). It will be 'an offer you can't refuse' - their mission is to put you in a position to agree.

@ Mad Hatter - yes it's true that the state of emergency is what the current de facto 'government' is predicated upon, however most public officials don't know that, so the Constitution can be used against them effectively if need be. Realize, however, that the Constitution is a statement of that which is already given (unalienable rights) - you do not need it specifically, however it makes for a good reference point because most people understand it very little and can be used for intellectual/factual intimidation.

@ Lifebringer - your God source is within, patiently waiting for you to recognize it. It is not here to offer protection - that would abridge your free will. It is a source of inner strength and power that may be used 'properly', however requires you to study and do the work. This informational rabbit hole (David Wynn Miller and others) is precisely based on this very fact.

[DreamsInDigital]

@ Jonathon,
You completely misunderstand me, and apparently what I was saying. I've never been in agreement with our government or believed the bullcrap and lies they've been so easily pulling over the majority of Americans. There are no more "natural" disasters that aren't helped along with HAARP. I'd take my pony and go live in Canada before submitting to such insanity as going to one of their Concentration Camps, I'm not foolish to fall for their tricks.

[Sebastion]

Jonathon, you will never know how tickled I am that the founding fathers of this country didn't see things your way! And thanks for the heads up as I will be sure to tell the government boys that I have a "king's mentality". As soon as they are all falling on the ground laughing, I can make my escape for sure! yea, uh-huh

[Mad Hatter]

G'day Raf,

It is my understanding that it takes somewhere between 3 and 5 professional soldiers to contain one guerilla fighter simply because the guerilla fighter can pick up or put down his weapon as required and so easily blend in to the local scene.

This I feel is the actual reasoning behind the world wide push to disarm the public and not the propaganda that it will reduce murder / crime rates. Murder rates went up after Australia was disarmed with the preferred weapon becoming blades instead.

/sarcasm So now I feel oh so much safer knowing that only the criminals have guns, uniformed or otherwise.../sarcasm

Do you think that all those marched of to camps in Germany would have gone quite as willingly had they known what lay in store for them? Had they all been aware angry and armed would that exercise even have been possible?

I don't know about you, but I think anyone that needs to point the business end of a firearm at me to persuade me to do something certainly won't have my best interests at heart.

Thus you raise an interesting question, to die on your feet or live on your knees?

God forbid this should ever happen but say you have early teenage daughters and you know that by going along they as well as your wife will probably be subjected to all sorts of abuse, what choice would you make then...

PS sorry to the OP for going OT

[Sebastion]

Spiritguide, I honor the spirit of your post as I believe I understand what you are asking. The boys who will be enforcing government orders are/will be trained for one thing only-the business they are trained and ordered to do, bottom line. One needs only to see what happened after Katrina devastated New Orleans to get their eyes opened up very quickly regarding their constitutional rights to defend themselves and their private property. Constitutional rights-they had none. Their only right was to do what they were told, period. It doesn't take much to imagine what would be in store for you after being taken to a fema camp.

[spiritguide]

The construction on these camps have been going on for many years. Who authorized them? Under which administration(president)? Why was any talk about them considered conspiricy Theory? Why is the government still treating their existance classified? We need to get the answers and educate the masses any and all ways. Can we accomplish this quest to help our fellow brothers and sisters to realize the importance involved here? Now is the time to use VALOR of the heart that each one of us have. From my spirit to yours "Peace on Earth", make it so.

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