Sheeple, and Inquisitive Sheeple

[Tony]

Notes on How to Control The Inquisitive Sheeple

There are Sheeple and there are Inquisitive Sheeple.

The Sheeple are easy to take care of, but what do we do with the Inquisitive Sheeple?
Why not pen them into something called The Alternative Conspiracy Media?
They'd all be in one place, and easier to control.


Make full use of the pyramid system.
Don't let anyone below know what is going on above.
They must always have someone feeding “true” pieces of information down the line.
Create figure heads.
Drop in a piece of timely, titillating news, just to keep the pot boiling.
As long as they are arguing and excited, we are totally safe.
Let them think they are winning.
Tell them they are in control of their own minds (as long as they continue to take things personally, they will never have that control).
Keep them subtly divided in their beliefs.
Promote the thought that they are the saved ones, and they will feel no need to look closely at what is actually going on.
Keep them reinventing wheels: we can then head them off in any direction we choose.
They must never be allowed to think for themselves: keep channeling from a “higher source.”
Create unease: conformity will follow.

Never forget: our main weapon is their egos.
If they lose their egos, we are done for...

Does this sound familiar?!

Tony

[Decibellistics]

cue circus music ;)

well observed

[grapevine]

Does this sound familiar?!

Tony

Yes indeedy . . . can someone think of a New Year's Resolution/Mantra to keep us on target?

[Limor Wolf]

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Exactly .

[spiritguide]

The statement is the answer......

[Calz]

cue circus music ;)

well observed


then cue demotivational poster :nod:


12011

[Tony]

Getting inside the minds of the pyramid builders.

We have to think outside our boxed-minds. They will try every trick possible.
If they can go to the extent of children's prams that face the child away from the mother, then they are capable of any mind-priming.

How devious can you think?
If you realise how they might work, then you will be more prepared.
We can think exactly as they do, but not follow through with the action.
We are all under the same influences.

Even people in charge of any organisation may have their minders, and not know it.
We have to look at all possibilities.
If you look up the words “Common Purpose” in Black's Law dictionary it has the words.... 'that the group intends to carry out' written after it.
It is NOT for the common good!

I have to constantly look into my mind to see who else might be there :confused:!

You may be part of a pyramid and not know it.
We only have to look, and then let go, of any idea of friend or enemy.

Just stay in equanimity to those far and near.

Only then, the intention IS unconditional compassion.

[Tony]

Play more chess!!!

[alienHunter]

Notes on How to Control The Inquisitive Sheeple

There are Sheeple and there are Inquisitive Sheeple.

The Sheeple are easy to take care of, but what do we do with the Inquisitive Sheeple?
Why not pen them into something called The Alternative Conspiracy Media?
They'd all be in one place, and easier to control.


Make full use of the pyramid system.
Don't let anyone below know what is going on above.
They must always have someone feeding “true” pieces of information down the line.
Create figure heads.
Drop in a piece of timely, titillating news, just to keep the pot boiling.
As long as they are arguing and excited, we are totally safe.
Let them think they are winning.
Tell them they are in control of their own minds (as long as they continue to take things personally, they will never have that control).
Keep them subtly divided in their beliefs.
Promote the thought that they are the saved ones, and they will feel no need to look closely at what is actually going on.
Keep them reinventing wheels: we can then head them off in any direction we choose.
They must never be allowed to think for themselves: keep channeling from a “higher source.”
Create unease: conformity will follow.

Never forget: our main weapon is their egos.
If they lose their egos, we are done for...

Does this sound familiar?!

Tony

Yes, very familiar. I think a hallmark of any 'sheeple' thinking is loyalty to any alternative system that has a hierarchical dispositional or imposition nature.

[alienHunter]

Play more chess!!!

Hey pie'n'eal: Do you have any kind of rating. I played as a child, lost interest in a manner of speaking and then took it up again about a year ago. I've been around a 1600 (pretty average) and then dropped down a little from lack of practice. According to the 'potential' raters...I could reach Grand Master Level but I'm sure that would only apply to serious playing at a younger age. (a little self-stroking does the body good)

[Calz]

Play more chess!!!

Hey pie'n'eal: Do you have any kind of rating. I played as a child, lost interest in a manner of speaking and then took it up again about a year ago. I've been around a 1600 (pretty average) and then dropped down a little from lack of practice. According to the 'potential' raters...I could reach Grand Master Level but I'm sure that would only apply to serious playing at a younger age. (a little self-stroking does the body good)

Well to keep to topic it is certainly true that Kings and Queens use their Pawns as cannon fodder (sheeple).

I was actually in a 2nd place tie for my state's high school chess championship. Don't remember what my ranking was. :chess:

Went to college ... started partying ... and you know the rest of the story :party:

[Tony]

Play more chess!!!

Hey pie'n'eal: Do you have any kind of rating. I played as a child, lost interest in a manner of speaking and then took it up again about a year ago. I've been around a 1600 (pretty average) and then dropped down a little from lack of practice. According to the 'potential' raters...I could reach Grand Master Level but I'm sure that would only apply to serious playing at a younger age. (a little self-stroking does the body good)

I have a handicap...a disfinctional brain, by the time I get to plan 'G' plan 'A' has changed several times.....good mind though!

[alienHunter]

Play more chess!!!

Hey pie'n'eal: Do you have any kind of rating. I played as a child, lost interest in a manner of speaking and then took it up again about a year ago. I've been around a 1600 (pretty average) and then dropped down a little from lack of practice. According to the 'potential' raters...I could reach Grand Master Level but I'm sure that would only apply to serious playing at a younger age. (a little self-stroking does the body good)

Well to keep to topic it is certainly true that Kings and Queens use their Pawns as cannon fodder (sheeple).

I was actually in a 2nd place tie for my state's high school chess championship. Don't remember what my ranking was. :chess:

When to college ... started partying ... and you know the rest of the story :party:

actually, that's very impressive...I won a city junior championship at age 13...but I'm sure that your high school level was above 1600 and better than mine was at that age. 1300 is considered a good high school player.

yeah, I know the rest of the story...

incidentally, I played '2nd board' as a high school sophomore the one year my high school had a chess team. We played in one state level invitational and got our arses kicked... :(

[alienHunter]

Play more chess!!!

Hey pie'n'eal: Do you have any kind of rating. I played as a child, lost interest in a manner of speaking and then took it up again about a year ago. I've been around a 1600 (pretty average) and then dropped down a little from lack of practice. According to the 'potential' raters...I could reach Grand Master Level but I'm sure that would only apply to serious playing at a younger age. (a little self-stroking does the body good)

I have a handicap...a disfinctional brain, by the time I get to plan 'G' plan 'A' has changed several times.....good mind though!

you know what, I have that same damn problem...

[Ultima Thule]

Good summary Pie´n´eal. Exactly what has been rummaging(is that a word?) through my mind lately - if I know that they know that I know that they know, won´t they then be prepared for me knowing that they know and making plans to set me up one more time? Working like a magician and letting me under confidentiality on to a mockery of what the trick is about, but not showing me the real trick that is happening. When I breakthrough to what I think is the truth, is it just another level of the matrix left waiting there, to make sure I run around in circles even more. Sheeple chewing calmly on grass and the inquisitive sheeple trotting around the pasture? Are we in the end being misdirected to run around looking for the door and in the process forgetting the only door to unlock is at all the times with us? Is a forum like this in a worst case scenario the ultimate "google" for the next electric rabbit to keep us running after?

Is our hope a fools hope, just like in the story with the rabbit and turtle running? We being the turtle with stunningly slow progression towards what is real and our only hope being that the rabbit sleeps long enough time?

UT

[Tony]

Of course, you realise I am using reverse pyramid psychology.

It is a given that only the most intelligent people read a thread by Pie'n'eal (welcome oh wise ones!).
Therefore, some severely odd and spontaneous ideas
may filter down to counteract the conformity of the fear-mongers…

…how is that for arrogance??!!!

It is my feeling that the so-called 'elite mind' is mechanical and lacks humour.
That is their weakness.

As long as we don't take ourselves seriously, there is hope.
A lot of hope…….because that is the way the matrix-hold is broken.

It is, all nonsense….see Roman did it to me!

[13th Warrior]

giaZnIr-faM

[spiritguide]

Breaking the norm is very exciting and contagious.

[Mark]

What is actually going on?

[Unified Serenity]

I really liked this and wonder how many here can watch this and not just think of others but themselves. I am happy to question my thought paradigms and have them questioned. None of us are so evolved that we cannot slip into a comfort zone and thus adhere to it with a death grip despite someone trying to help us see, and wipe the sleep from our eyes:

qNFe7zXCVJM

[spiritguide]

Rahkyt, pie as always is giving us different ways to perceive what we call reality. At least I think, but you know sometimes doing that gets me in trouble. I can always count on pie's threads to exercise my mind.

:peace:

[Fred259]

What is actually going on?


This is what’s going on IMHO.


Watching the video more than once will enable a better understanding of the seriousness of the situation.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml3IM0esWXM&feature=player_embedded#




This is the real reality Tony is talking about. We need to understand this and avoid it at all costs.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRh5qy09nNw&feature=player_embedded




Folks…Tony is doing good here, exposing some real dark psy ops. Here are two of his latest quotes………


“When you enter 30 Tabernacle St, (in London) there is a door behind the reception. Guess were it leads to?..........Common Purpose”


And another………….


If you look up the words “Common Purpose” in Black's Law dictionary it has the words.... 'that the group intends to carry out' written after it.

It is NOT for the common good!


……that’s an understatement for sure!

However, fear not…. What we must do is understand the multidimensional nature of the matrix and how these criminals hope to re-conceptualize the way we think and behave.

And so I have a question. What percentage of the material on this site could be coming directly or indirectly from the Tavistock Institute?

[Tony]

This is exactly what is going on, thanks Fred!

[grapevine]

Play more chess!!!


Uh-oh . . . the nearest I get to chess is .... snap! :) Will that do Pie ?

[Tony]

Play more chess!!!


Uh-oh . . . the nearest I get to chess is .... snap! :) Will that do Pie ?

Yes!!! Watch for the intake of breath...and the greedy expression....and then let 'them' win. The game is in the mind.

[grapevine]

Question is: how do we (not beat ....) OVERCOME the Tavistock Institute. Maybe we all have to go underground ............? Shame .... :( :(

[another bob]

What is actually going on?

naming, labeling games, differentiation, separation, division into "us and them" categories, iow, the usual preoccupation of humans -- self-confirmation at others' expense, in an attempt to appear taller to oneself in the vanity mirror, and so forth and so on . . .

:yo:

[Mark]

Ah, THIS part of the game. Thanks, y'all! More than a Theory, a reality, hm? I guess it's "Man in the Mirror" time. If the group consensus is toward unity consciousness rather than the separative division of ethnicity and class, then it is better though, right??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps

[Tony]

Question is: how do we (not beat ....) OVERCOME the Tavistock Institute. Maybe we all have to go underground ............? Shame .... :( :(

We just do not conform to their games. Everyone I meet, I drop something into the conversation Teachers, Doctors, Dentists, Social workers all of them know something is not right, but they are not used to joining the dots up. They have to do it in their own time, at the back of these people's minds the wheels are turning. We just have to keep sowing good seeds with good intentions, and stay confident.

[161803398]

They obviously weren't Irish sheep. As they say in Ireland "maybe its the water".

I heard too many people on this side of the Atlantic talking about the government like its a parent, for instance, along with a long list of other insane concepts.

There are too many ideas in North America that are totally ridiculous and if you put even one of them in the recipe for awareness you are going to come up with a lot of S***.

[grapevine]

Ah, THIS part of the game. Thanks, y'all! More than a Theory, a reality, hm? I guess it's "Man in the Mirror" time. If the group consensus is toward unity consciousness rather than the separative division of ethnicity and class, then it is better though, right??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps


The starving people in this world are our (the west's) shame Rahkyt - we cannot run from it . . . . imo we cannot move on until we have addressed this situation. Bob Geldorf made an impression but he did not solve the problem. wtf can we do about this ? The next eurolottery jackpot stands at 12m but what in reality could we achieve with this? Could we get a water pipe through to Middle Africa with that ? No. Why not? Politics .......... politics and arsey people (arsey people=people who want to make money out of it)

[Mark]

The starving people in this world are our (the west's) shame Rahkyt - we cannot run from it . . . . imo we cannot move on until we have addressed this situation. Bob Geldorf made an impression but he did not solve the problem. wtf can we do about this ? The next eurolottery jackpot stands at 12m but what in reality could we achieve with this? Could we get a water pipe through to Middle Africa with that ? No. Why not? Politics .......... politics and arsey people (arsey people=people who want to make money out of it)

Well, this video is kind of old, but of course you make a great point ... nowadays, this video could apply to a lot more places besides the underdeveloped countries and the underdeveloped regions and peoples of the developed countries. A lotta folks who thought that they were immune to this kind of stuff and that they would always have jobs and security based upon their cultural affiliations and ethnic affiliations are finding that the PTW never really cared about them either and they are now experiencing deprivation that, while not approximating the extreme cases of Africa, Asia and parts of meso-America, could get that bad if the spiral continues for the Western world. It is politics ... but the politics of herding, assimilation and the price of lemming-like behavior. When you condone the system that creates conditions like Michael Jackson highlights in this video for people on the other side of the world, your participation in group-think came at the cost of your soul. You are right ... it must be addressed. I suppose the Past has to be cleared energetically to truly move into a brighter future.

[Belle]

Question is: how do we (not beat ....) OVERCOME the Tavistock Institute. Maybe we all have to go underground ............? Shame .... :( :(

We just do not conform to their games. Everyone I meet, I drop something into the conversation Teachers, Doctors, Dentists, Social workers all of them know something is not right, but they are not used to joining the dots up. They have to do it in their own time, at the back of these people's minds the wheels are turning. We just have to keep sowing good seeds with good intentions, and stay confident.

And how do we know what games are being played? Perhaps, simply observe everything with total detachment from preconceived ideas, emotions, or judgment for a while. The longer you do this, the easier it is to see the games being played all around you and the more difficult it becomes to find any logic in what you see.

I prefer not to play their games. Some call me 'passive aggressive'...I see the game, nod my head and smile, and walk my own path. They cannot make me conform for I carry no guilt or shame for them to use to beat me into conformity. People can laugh at me and belittle me...it doesn't matter because I don't allow that to affect me in any way.

I've heard it said that 'when people lose everything, they lose it'. I prefer, 'when people lose everything, they can become truly free'.

[Belle]

It is politics ... but the politics of herding, assimilation and the price of lemming-like behavior.

Let us be like cats. Have you ever tried to herd cats?

[Mark]

Let us be like cats. Have you ever tried to herd cats?

LOL Yes!! :whip:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/herding-cats.jpg

J/K I totally get what you mean. We do have to be ... perhaps 'herding cats' is what is being attempted here and other places like it.

[Belle]

We do have to be ... perhaps 'herding cats' is what is being attempted here and other places like it.

I do believe you're right, Rahkyt.

In a lot of the threads lately, people seem to generally split into two camps...just like the way tptb function by dividing people into two camps on issues they create...democrat/republican, christian/muslim, positive/negative, etc.

Suppose this forum was filled with cats...er, I mean independent thinking and functioning people. How many camps would there then be? As many as there are members here. How easy would it be to herd us then?

You see, preconceived ideas, emotional attachments and judgments divide us, primarily into two camps...you know the kind, 'I'm right and you're wrong and I'll keep at it until you agree with me.'

Just think what we could accomplish if we could accept one another's thoughts and opinions, and simply share our own in reply. Independent thought and acceptance...how revolutionary!

[Mark]

Well, by accepting one another's thoughts and opinions, that would mean we would have to come out of our own heads and put ourselves into others! Effectively empathizing with another, walking in their shoes, even if only for a moment!!

...

Nahhhh. Sounds like WORK.

LOL I attempted to discuss this very issue over here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36661-Speculative-Esoteric-Metaphysics) some days ago. Didn't work too well, folks are a bit scared of being seen supporting what might be considered "seditious" material, or stuff that is only slightly critical of certain sacred chaos.

[Belle]

I didn't say they had to agree...

[Kristin]

Hey there, now I'll just throw this in to consider. What if people are not "split into two camps"? What if that is just the illusion that is being created for our dis-benefit? Perhaps that is even an illusion that our egos just want to hold on to. I am not feeling that there are not disagreements... I've seen plenty here, but we are still on one forum for our collective interests in a variety of subjects. I'm personally interested in many issues that deal with spiritual as well as the practical and more scientific applications... The combining of science and soul wisdom. Can anyone really say they are not a combination of both? Does not Avalon create the experience of a mingling of informational view points that bring about a balance?

Just a thought from the Worm.

An idea on herding cats: shake the food bowl. LOL I have two cats, that's the only way they will listen.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[grapevine]

I have four any they're all pretty much individual. they 'appear' to listen at mealtimes but it doesn't last long after that . . .

[grapevine]

The starving people in this world are our (the west's) shame Rahkyt - we cannot run from it . . . . imo we cannot move on until we have addressed this situation. Bob Geldorf made an impression but he did not solve the problem. wtf can we do about this ? The next eurolottery jackpot stands at 12m but what in reality could we achieve with this? Could we get a water pipe through to Middle Africa with that ? No. Why not? Politics .......... politics and arsey people (arsey people=people who want to make money out of it)

Well, this video is kind of old, but of course you make a great point ... nowadays, this video could apply to a lot more places besides the underdeveloped countries and the underdeveloped regions and peoples of the developed countries. A lotta folks who thought that they were immune to this kind of stuff and that they would always have jobs and security based upon their cultural affiliations and ethnic affiliations are finding that the PTW never really cared about them either and they are now experiencing deprivation that, while not approximating the extreme cases of Africa, Asia and parts of meso-America, could get that bad if the spiral continues for the Western world. It is politics ... but the politics of herding, assimilation and the price of lemming-like behavior. When you condone the system that creates conditions like Michael Jackson highlights in this video for people on the other side of the world, your participation in group-think came at the cost of your soul. You are right ... it must be addressed. I suppose the Past has to be cleared energetically to truly move into a brighter future.

Yes it could apply to a lot more places . . . but they're still not in quite the same category as the starving masses that we still see today, that I have witnessed since I was a child, a half century ago and still the same There really is no excuse for it at all. I do not condone the system one little bit but am powerless to do anything other than to donate what little money I have on a regular basis to charities which make very little headway into a real solution for these people. But what is the answer?

[Mark]

Yes it could apply to a lot more places . . . but they're still not in quite the same category as the starving masses that we still see today, that I have witnessed since I was a child, a half century ago and still the same There really is no excuse for it at all. I do not condone the system one little bit but am powerless to do anything other than to donate what little money I have on a regular basis to charities which make very little headway into a real solution for these people. But what is the answer?

I think that part of the answer is personal responsibility. Standing up for people's rights, even if they don't look like you or you don't even particularly like them. Being true to Truth, which is really being true to yourself. Non-participation. Get a job with some heart, with some soul. Reach out to others, make connections, interact with people outside of your comfort zone. Make the effort to walk in another person's shoes and feel empathy and compassion. Give, give, give! Help, help, help! LOL

Nothing new at all, just stuff that everybody knows are the right things to do, we just generally don't do them. Standing back and just listening when friends and family say things that are just wrong and terrible is tacit support, if you do that then you are a part of the problem not the solution. Sure, you don't have to run around accosting people but if you can't separate yourself from the herd - even if part of your family is part of the herd - then you are a part of the herd. Gotta be willing to go through some ostricization. LOL Some recriminations and some maybe even a loss of things that you believe are necessary. Things like a job, friends, relationships.

But the Multiverse has a way of looking out for people who do the right thing. So even if it seems like you are ending your life and that there is nothing beyond, something miraculous will happen and you will see. I write so emphatically about this because it happened to me. And it is happening to many, many people right now as we speak.

[Unified Serenity]

Yes it could apply to a lot more places . . . but they're still not in quite the same category as the starving masses that we still see today, that I have witnessed since I was a child, a half century ago and still the same There really is no excuse for it at all. I do not condone the system one little bit but am powerless to do anything other than to donate what little money I have on a regular basis to charities which make very little headway into a real solution for these people. But what is the answer?

I think that part of the answer is personal responsibility. Standing up for people's rights, even if they don't look like you or you don't even particularly like them. Being true to Truth, which is really being true to yourself. Non-participation. Get a job with some heart, with some soul. Reach out to others, make connections, interact with people outside of your comfort zone. Make the effort to walk in another person's shoes and feel empathy and compassion. Give, give, give! Help, help, help! LOL

Nothing new at all, just stuff that everybody knows are the right things to do, we just generally don't do them. Standing back and just listening when friends and family say things that are just wrong and terrible is tacit support, if you do that then you are a part of the problem not the solution. Sure, you don't have to run around accosting people but if you can't separate yourself from the herd - even if part of your family is part of the herd - then you are a part of the herd. Gotta be willing to go through some ostricization. LOL Some recriminations and some maybe even a loss of things that you believe are necessary. Things like a job, friends, relationships.

But the Multiverse has a way of looking out for people who do the right thing. So even if it seems like you are ending your life and that there is nothing beyond, something miraculous will happen and you will see. I write so emphatically about this because it happened to me. And it is happening to many, many people right now as we speak.

You are truly a beautiful soul brother.....

much love,

Serenity

[truth4me]

Getting inside the minds of the pyramid builders.

We have to think outside our boxed-minds. They will try every trick possible.
If they can go to the extent of children's prams that face the child away from the mother, then they are capable of any mind-priming.

How devious can you think?
If you realise how they might work, then you will be more prepared.
We can think exactly as they do, but not follow through with the action.
We are all under the same influences.



I have to constantly look into my mind to see who else might be there .:confused:

That right there is one important sentence. I believe so many of our thoughts aren't our own are somehow "beamed our way".....

[another bob]

I believe so many of our thoughts aren't our own are somehow "beamed our way".....

Hmmmm, now there's a thought! ;)

So, if we were to kick it up a few notches, perhaps to the point of regarding all thoughts (as well as emotions, memories, and even perceptions) as transient background noise, what would be left in the forefront? What remains when we let go of everything? Whatever that is, we are that.

:yo:

[spiritguide]

I believe so many of our thoughts aren't our own are somehow "beamed our way".....

Hmmmm, now there's a thought! ;)

So, if we were to kick it up a few notches, perhaps to the point of regarding all thoughts (as well as emotions, memories, and even perceptions) as transient background noise, what would be left in the forefront? What remains when we let go of everything? Whatever that is, we are that.

:yo:

One simple answer LOVE.

:peace:

[Ultima Thule]

Tavistock - how peculiar - when read in finnish, it could be freely translated to english as "Joe Average -stock" or "the supply of Joe Averages". "Tavis" being a slang word for ordinary folk :p That´s a freudian moment they never knew was being slipped.

On a more serious note: they are very much playing with our need to be right. Release the need to be right -> see things the way they are?
To define more accurately: sheeple exercising that need in regards to entertainment - "I knew the Penguins are going to win Stanley Cup". Inquisitive sheeple exercising that in regards to truth about the matters of the world:"We are going to ascend on 2012! - Are not! - Are too!"

UT

[ViralSpiral]

Of course, you realise I am using reverse pyramid psychology.

It is a given that only the most intelligent people read a thread by Pie'n'eal (welcome oh wise ones!).



This is a gross assumption which I take great exception to.
I only look at your posts hoping for recipes for pies and eels.
None of that to be found.
Only inquisitive sheeple, allergic to cat herders! Bah!
Am off to join those men who stare at goats instead.


I live in hope...............



P.s. chess is for those who can't play croquet.

[jorr lundstrom]

I have four any they're all pretty much individual. they 'appear' to listen at mealtimes but it doesn't last long after that . . .

I have four too. Sometimes I strongly suspect they can hear. Well. Im sooo

happy I may stay in their house. LOL

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/merlincat.jpg

[jorr lundstrom]

We do have to be ... perhaps 'herding cats' is what is being attempted here and other places like it.

I do believe you're right, Rahkyt.

In a lot of the threads lately, people seem to generally split into two camps...just like the way tptb function by dividing people into two camps on issues they create...democrat/republican, christian/muslim, positive/negative, etc.

Suppose this forum was filled with cats...er, I mean independent thinking and functioning people. How many camps would there then be? As many as there are members here. How easy would it be to herd us then?

You see, preconceived ideas, emotional attachments and judgments divide us, primarily into two camps...you know the kind, 'I'm right and you're wrong and I'll keep at it until you agree with me.'

Just think what we could accomplish if we could accept one another's thoughts and opinions, and simply share our own in reply. Independent thought and acceptance...how revolutionary!

Well Belle, this is a private owned place, ie an extension of....................

And wot about all the control that is necessary? Controlling cats?

Are you kidding? No, I think the solution is to keep ones cat heart

well hidden and act like dogs and learn to bark, but low.


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/Smilodon_Fatalis_by_balaa-1.jpg

[Dawn]

Belle: I've heard it said that 'when people lose everything, they lose it'. I prefer, 'when people lose everything, they can become truly free'.

....................Loosing everything is actually the answer.
...............Loosing your point of view,
........Loosing your demand that everything around you be 'right' instead of 'wrong',
Loosing your desire for things to be different, and loosing your judgement that something is wrong just because it doesn't fit your understanding.

The only way I've found to truly get past all of this requires focus. That way is meditation. I don't mention it often on the forum, because people either decide to put in the time to change, or they decide not to. Meditation is the willingness to sit still and unmoving no matter what... and then discover what is real and unchanging vs what is ephemeral and impermanent.

All the intellectual discussion here is a lot of fun... but at the end of the day it is mind chatter, unless it creates change.

Here are some 'truths' that I have directly experienced;

"What you resist persists".... do you think you resist anything present in the world now?

"What you judge in others is that which you cannot accept in yourself"... the recent DW and LS threads have been an amazing display of this one

"Desire is the root of all suffering'.... Do you (at the root of the matter) actually enjoy being involved in drama and trauma? If you wait for the latest dose of 'ain't it awful - or- doom and gloom' here on Avalon, then the answer is 'yes'. If this is you (and it is me sometimes) then we are caught in a lust to be out of control. A delicious feeling for an omnipotent god-like being who is bored with serenity and infinite power.

Can you truly enjoy 'monotony and repetition'? This is the ability to enjoy the 'one tone' and the 'continuous rhythm' of life. If you cannot yet enjoy simplicity in your life, then you will continue to create the drama and trauma that you are enjoying.

To fight to make a wrong right just adds energy to the war. To judge someone in power is not truly seeing things as they really are. To stop asking the question 'What am I seeing, and how am I creating it?' is to loose your connection to your power. Because... the final truth I'd like to point out is.... 'The Truth Will Set You Free'. Not the fight, not the judgement, not the trauma and drama... but the TRUTH.

And to find that, as far as I am aware, meditation is the only answer.

[Decibellistics]

It is all a game. Less thinky more feely LOL. And fix your own roof. Quite entertaining though nonetheless.

I ponder whether or not humanity has the uncanny ability to externalize mental constructs. For example, we can build magnetic rail trains.....what the **** is that LOL. I also consider the possibility that humanity has been repressed for centuries and has developed a nasty habit of constructing concepts that are detrimental to coexistence. For example, the Inquistion, or racists, or vegans vs meat eaters so on so forth blah blah blah. I wonder whether or not the reason people choose to associate with this behavior is because they actually have been repressed to the point that they have no self confidence or personal power left to construct a positive environment for themselves without ****ing over other people. They then have to jump on this bandwagon which is a mental construct externalized into the world as a institution in order to feel important, special, pleasured, and what have you. Im beginning to ramble but the moral of the story is......it is all bull**** and everyone has a choice to let go of the attachments they have been presented with and navigate within the world by methods conceived from within.

If we can do that, what the else can we do. Or maybe I'm bat**** insane....oooop....there goes the confidence thingy again.

P.S. I love you Reconstruct ze neural synapses

[Fred259]

[QUOTE=Wormhole;384361]Hey there, now I'll just throw this in to consider. What if people are not "split into two camps"? What if that is just the illusion that is being created for our dis-benefit? Perhaps that is even an illusion that our egos just want to hold on to. /QUOTE]

You might very well be right.


They say a picture replaces 1,000 words…

I wondered if we are all comfortable with this picture. Is it really a picture………… or perhaps a dark stinking snake pit of vipers.

I was particularly interested in the media section in and around the top right hand corner…what say you?


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[ViralSpiral]

It is all a game. Less thinky more feely LOL. And fix your own roof. Quite entertaining though nonetheless.




LOOOOL ;)

And as Tony would say........ There be shadows EVERYWHERE! Clean up your act, and sharpen your pole vault. In the meantime the pipes have burst, there's a hole in the bucket, the roof's drain is stuffed with dead leaves and my soup is full of bloomin' alphabets!

Saging whilst aging has being the topic in my world this week. And perspective. I can tell ya,I ain't looking forward to someone having to use wet-wipes on me royal posterior whilst I sing old war songs.

Can the fighting factions waging war over our souls, please get on with it? My soup's getting cold.


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[Belle]

Well Belle, this is a private owned place, ie an extension of....................

And wot about all the control that is necessary? Controlling cats?

Are you kidding? No, I think the solution is to keep ones cat heart

well hidden and act like dogs and learn to bark, but low.

But, Jorr, dogs are always looking for attention and approval. Oh, okay, I get it....blend in. Makes those dogs that try to act like cats easier to spot.

[Tony]

Er....you have forgotten about the sheep.

[jorr lundstrom]

Er....you have forgotten about the sheep.


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[GaelVictor]

Stop masturbating all the time.., i'll bet Kim yong ill didn't masturbate, and he was no sheep for sure!

[jorr lundstrom]

stop masturbating all the time.., i'll bet kim yong ill didn't masturbate, and he was no sheep for sure!

lol.........

[161803398]

In Ireland if you call somebody crazy, they will thank you for the "compliment". A touch of cynicism is healthy. We, in North America, seem to want to follow something or someone. We want to believe in something or someone. We want a hero or a belief system and thus we fall prey to many. Perhaps it is because we are a transient society and our attachments are constantly severed by moves and changes we do not or cannot control. Perhaps it is because we do not always have a sense of home.

In the small area where I live in Canada, for whatever reason, people do not move away very much and, as a consequence of this people get to know each other fairly well. They also know each other's parents and sometimes even their grandparents. This makes it a bit different from other places in Vancouver. When you know people, you can't care so much what they think of you so you are free to say or think whatever the H*** you want (there is no point in trying to hide it...they already know you are nuts). If you get used to that condition you come to expect it; act on it; and also to recognize the con artists.

If you want to know what the government is doing, the best way I can think of is to go live on the street for a few weeks and learn all the street tricks. It doesn't get much more complicated than that. The government needs places like Tavistock because they are basically a bunch of idiots and really don't understand basic human nature. If they did, they wouldn't waste their time trying to control it.

There is really only one way to "control" anyone...let them be free.

http://www.artistdirect.com/video/the-brylcreem-boys/57681

Of course, I suppose, some people are predictable but if you don't care what anyone thinks; don't need to try to make people agree with you; and aren't looking for brownie awards, then basically you are free. A little creativity helps.

...I should add...slow to glom onto new technology; new food; new anything because it could be "poison". Well, I know a hillbilly in Ireland who thought maple syrup could be poison and I thought he was a bit paranoid but, hey, he's got the right idea apparently because look at the state we are in with our food/pills and lightbulbs etc etc.

[Calz]

Er....you have forgotten about the sheep.


Look ... there's more over there ...


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[grapevine]

meditation is the only answer.

What kind/type? There are so many . . . :)

[Belle]

Er....you have forgotten about the sheep.

Sheep? Oh, you mean the ones the dogs try to herd, and the cats lead by example? Sounds like an Animal Farm to me....:rolleyes:

[another bob]

if we were to kick it up a few notches, perhaps to the point of regarding all thoughts (as well as emotions, memories, and even perceptions) as transient background noise, what would be left in the forefront? What remains when we let go of everything? Whatever that is, we are that.

One simple answer LOVE.

Greetings, Friend!

Love is the function, but what is the essence?


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[Lisab]

Only yesterday I was talking to my pregnant sister about prams. I adviced her to buy a pram that faces her as speech therapists advocate. When I read your post on how prams are delibaretly designed to face away from their mother's it hit me like a bolt. Of course! We really do need to think like them. Crafty bastards!
Brilliant thread.

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What is actually going on?


This is what’s going on IMHO.


Watching the video more than once will enable a better understanding of the seriousness of the situation.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml3IM0esWXM&feature=player_embedded#




This is the real reality Tony is talking about. We need to understand this and avoid it at all costs.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRh5qy09nNw&feature=player_embedded




Folks…Tony is doing good here, exposing some real dark psy ops. Here are two of his latest quotes………


“When you enter 30 Tabernacle St, (in London) there is a door behind the reception. Guess were it leads to?..........Common Purpose”


And another………….


If you look up the words “Common Purpose” in Black's Law dictionary it has the words.... 'that the group intends to carry out' written after it.

It is NOT for the common good!


……that’s an understatement for sure!

However, fear not…. What we must do is understand the multidimensional nature of the matrix and how these criminals hope to re-conceptualize the way we think and behave.

And so I have a question. What percentage of the material on this site could be coming directly or indirectly from the Tavistock Institute?

Thanks for this video Fred. Helped me alot.

[Belle]

Love is the function, but what is the essence?:yo:

Wow, now that's the big question. If we could answer that, the world would look a lot different.

We are not the roles we play in life... ie we are not our jobs, nor our position in life, nor relationships (mother/father, child, etc). How different would our behavior be without the expectations that come with role-playing?

By process of elimination, I would say we are pure spirit (or soul or energy, if you prefer) in physical form. But that begs the question, what is pure spirit? Can it even be defined?:confused:

Great question, another bob. You wouldn't happen to have an answer that we could ponder, would you?

[another bob]

You wouldn't happen to have an answer that we could ponder, would you?

"vast emptiness"


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[Belle]

"vast emptiness" indeed.

Waiting for my mind to stop munching away to seek the answer that awaits in silent stillness.

Thank you.

[Sebastion]

My experiences in that area have revealed that "essence" and "love" cannot be differentiated. They are one and the same and may I add, beyond that which is referred to as "emptiness".

[Tony]

Just a View

Empty Essence (or whatever you want to call it) is a dry, experiential, non-state.
It is merely pure perception.
I use the term Ordinary, as it has no adornments or modifications.
For me, this is the view of meditation.
I suppose 'Ordinary' could be seen as zero, or total simplicity. It has always been as it is ...but we tend not to remember!
We just need to become more familiar with it.....after all it is our natural being.

The primordial purity is absolute truth: it is our essence.
Its nature is consciousness: this is the relative truth.
The unity of these two truths is compassion.
Compassion – in its many forms - arises to meet the needs of sentient beings. In Sanskrit, it is known as Nirmanakaya.

If we have Clarity but no understanding of Emptiness, everything will appear as real.
If we have an understanding of Emptiness, but lack Clarity, we may find ourselves in a spaced-out state.

We may have different outlooks: mine changes all the time!
But my inlook doesn't...

Is this too far away from what some of you may call “higher self” or “source”?
Or is there something that is in harmony with what you may feel?

Tony

[Belle]

I am humbled by people who can express the inexpressible. For me, it just is...any attempts I make at explaining what is, falls far short of what 'I am'.

imo, at our core, our 'I am' is called our "higher self" because so many have forgotten what is essential to remember and seek what is not lost, just forgotten.

"Source", on the other hand, I see as the great "I AM" of which we are all a part.

As you can see, I am not adept at putting into words those things that can be understood only within and not with the mind.

[spiritguide]

if we were to kick it up a few notches, perhaps to the point of regarding all thoughts (as well as emotions, memories, and even perceptions) as transient background noise, what would be left in the forefront? What remains when we let go of everything? Whatever that is, we are that.

One simple answer LOVE.

Greetings, Friend!

Love is the function, but what is the essence?


:yo:

Love is all....

:peace:

[another bob]

Love is all....


... that matters!

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