1 in a 100 Americans are in jail!

[Tony]

NuvxTvHhqsc

The facts are not at all funny!
New slave labour, through the back door.
More black youngsters are in jail than in college.


Wake up!

[Eagle]

Oppression through education.

[Lisab]

Utterly shocking.

[spiritguide]

Out of the total at least 70% of this are political in one way, shape or form. This is what happens when you legislate sentence guidelines. It takes away the power of the courts to sentence according to the case at hand. IMHO (in my honest opinion)

:peace:

[modwiz]

It is the product of a moronic population voting for law and order politicians. Watch what you wish for.

Dumb and dumber, an American story.

[Tony]

What is worrying is the...three strikes and you get life imprisonment.

[Siberia9]

Maybe 100 out of 100 Americans are in prison, they just dont realize it. Razor wire and bars=Maximum security level, no razor wire or bars= minimum security level. If they can increase your security level anytime the guards want then you are a prisoner, they own you.

[Kano]

"Manipulate minds through hypnotical legislate..."

Black Eyed Peas (when they used to be good)

[Franny]

As Russel Means said, "Youʻre all on the Reservation now, not just natives".

[Carmody]

What is worrying is the...three strikes and you get life imprisonment.

You can't create a capacity or identification within people of 'low empathy societal separation' unless you do such things as 'make it official'. so people can exist in the group mindset of this insanity.

I've covered this before on the forum. it has to do with the Rockefeller drug laws, as a recent noted change ( 70's) in policy that brought the system of Nazi Germany back to the USA via the same people who financed them in the first place. (place +1000 pages of supported data here as part of the overall connectivity of this mess)

In order to have a fascist regime that worked, they needed to get the right amount of people in jail. Capable people. able bodied people. These folks could then manufacture the soft goods for the military.

Buy the politicians, put them in place. Create the laws.

privatize the prisons so they are owned by corporations. No government or public oversight.

use that as a method of increasing the trained private armies and police forces.

Find things to go after to demonize in the eyes of the public.

Use the prison populations to manufacture good for the corporations who make arms and such for war purposes, at free or incredibly reduced rates or cost..all paid for by the public coffers.

Complete total overt fascism, from voting booth control... fully through...to the war machine. Which in the case of the USA.... has been used to wage war on the world. And now that the mechanism is drained of energy and capacity, it turns it's attentions to the US population and it fully intends to eat the population, before the population becomes fully aware of the parasite within.

This parasite intends to erase it's historical and record of connections to the population of the USA..to erase the entire informational trail and record of the process so that the USA cannot remember or understand the origins of this mess. Just like what happened in Germany.

Thus the opening of the FEMA camps and the indefinite detention law just enacted in the USA. These are late stages of the game.

In Germany, they had the same ratio of demonized citizens in jails, manufacturing the same level of military 'soft goods'.

The ratios and situations are now fully parallel to to fascist Nazi Germany, before the war broke out and as it broke out.

Definition of fascism: when corporations and governments collude to work against the population or fabric of society, to work together for their personal and overt interests.

Fascism leads to totalitarianism, which leads to complete bloodbaths. That is the history of it--every time.

China..asia.. specifically china..appears to be the next target of such or similar scenario. Once they are finished with feeding upon the the USA. (it is quite arguable that they are already there)

in the meantime, in the aftermath, they may try to build a new machine, slowly, in the north American continent, via Canada or similar. Talk of making Toronto the financial capital in a united north American state. as well..those NAFTA highway plans. Those centralized highways, exactly like the autobahn. Inner arteries, controlled arteries. The list is near endless, if one looks.

These energies and groups have long plans. Pay attention.

[Arrowwind]

this video did not touch on the issue of people now going to jail for debt.

From the Minneapolis-St. Paul Star Tribune (http://www.startribune.com/local/95692619.html):

It’s not a crime to owe money, and debtors’ prisons were abolished in the United States in the 19th century. But people are routinely being thrown in jail for failing to pay debts. In Minnesota, which has some of the most creditor-friendly laws in the country, the use of arrest warrants against debtors has jumped 60 percent over the past four years, with 845 cases in 2009, a Star Tribune analysis of state court data has found.
Not every warrant results in an arrest, but in Minnesota many debtors spend up to 48 hours in cells with criminals. Consumer attorneys say such arrests are increasing in many states, including Arkansas, Arizona and Washington, driven by a bad economy, high consumer debt and a growing industry that buys bad debts and employs every means available to collect.
Whether a debtor is locked up depends largely on where the person lives, because enforcement is inconsistent from state to state, and even county to county.
In Illinois and southwest Indiana, some judges jail debtors for missing court-ordered debt payments. In extreme cases, people stay in jail until they raise a minimum payment. In January, a judge sentenced a Kenney, Ill., man “to indefinite incarceration” until he came up with $300 toward a lumber yard debt.
“The law enforcement system has unwittingly become a tool of the debt collectors,” said Michael Kinkley, an attorney in Spokane, Wash., who has represented arrested debtors. “The debt collectors are abusing the system and intimidating people, and law enforcement is going along with it.”

That judge, in my estimation should be strung up. Not likely this is the only person he has done this to.... yet the banks have destroyed how many people's security in this nation and around the world of late? and how many bankers have been convicted?

Recently there was a case where the judge actually got convicted for sending young men, like teenagers I think, to jail just to keep jail census up.

The video discusses that some prisons are actually production plants for appliances and other household goods.. so at the wages these people get, (17 cent to 1.25 per hourr) and the fact that they are forced to work, that is equal to slave labor, and insult to injury for people who are jailed for minimal crimes... enabling some US businesses to be competitive with China and Mexico. They also discuss the three strikes your out laws that have put people in jail for life for things like stealing a few DVDS or smoking pot.

This is all a far cry from making state license plates.

These are corporations noted in using prison labor:

IBM, Boeing, Motorola, Microsoft, AT&T, Wireless, Texas Instrument, Dell, Compaq, Honeywell, Hewlett-Packard, Nortel, Lucent Technologies, 3Com, Intel, Northern Telecom, TWA, Nordstrom's, Revlon, Macy's, Pierre Cardin, Target Stores, among many others.

No insurance, no workmans comp, no family leave..... you must go to work.

We are in deep deep do doo in this nation.. the medical industry and the drug industry is just one small slice of the pile of sh^t we are up against.

Basically this site says what the video did, but in more detail.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8289

"The private contracting of prisoners for work fosters incentives to lock people up. Prisons depend on this income. Corporate stockholders who make money off prisoners' work lobby for longer sentences, in order to expand their workforce. The system feeds itself," says a study by the Progressive Labor Party, which accuses the prison industry of being "an imitation of Nazi Germany with respect to forced slave labor and concentration camps."

Here is a discussion on another forum that I came acorss. It is a complex issue and we all know that stats. lie to some degree.. but none the less, regardless of all the picky detail, there is a slave labor issue going on in my estimation.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=596465

so they have a title for this new social event: The Prison Industrial Complex
http://reality-bytes.hubpages.com/hub/Is-The-Prison-Industrial-Complex-A-New-Form-Of-Slavery

and the youtube video on this above page is further revealing.

So is this an evil empire or have we not arrived in 1984?

[Lifebringer]

Time to shift this mindset to freeing the prisoners who do NO harm. Time to give them community service and stop charging the public for corporate slave schemes.

[Kano]

Time to shift this mindset to freeing the prisoners who do NO harm. Time to give them community service and stop charging the public for corporate slave schemes.

"I know about a place where a rapist gets paroled,
to make room for a dude who has sold,
a pound of weed, to me that's a crime.
Here's to good people doin' time y'all!"

311-Grassroots-Offbeat bareass

I'm full of lyrics today for some reason. But I think you make a good point Lifebringer.

Cheers,
Kano

[Carmody]

What is worrying is the...three strikes and you get life imprisonment.

You can't create a capacity or identification within people of 'low empathy societal separation' unless you do such things as 'make it official'. so people can exist in the group mindset of this insanity.

I've covered this before on the forum. it has to do with the Rockefeller drug laws, as a recent noted change ( 70's) in policy that brought the system of Nazi Germany back to the USA via the same people who financed them in the first place. (place +1000 pages of supported data here as part of the overall connectivity of this mess)

In order to have a fascist regime that worked, they needed to get the right amount of people in jail. Capable people. able bodied people. These folks could then manufacture the soft goods for the military.

Buy the politicians, put them in place. Create the laws.

privatize the prisons so they are owned by corporations. No government or public oversight.

use that as a method of increasing the trained private armies and police forces.

Find things to go after to demonize in the eyes of the public.

Use the prison populations to manufacture good for the corporations who make arms and such for war purposes, at free or incredibly reduced rates or cost..all paid for by the public coffers.

Complete total overt fascism, from voting booth control... fully through...to the war machine. Which in the case of the USA.... has been used to wage war on the world. And now that the mechanism is drained of energy and capacity, it turns it's attentions to the US population and it fully intends to eat the population, before the population becomes fully aware of the parasite within.

This parasite intends to erase it's historical and record of connections to the population of the USA..to erase the entire informational trail and record of the process so that the USA cannot remember or understand the origins of this mess. Just like what happened in Germany.

Thus the opening of the FEMA camps and the indefinite detention law just enacted in the USA. These are late stages of the game.

In Germany, they had the same ratio of demonized citizens in jails, manufacturing the same level of military 'soft goods'.

The ratios and situations are now fully parallel to to fascist Nazi Germany, before the war broke out and as it broke out.

Definition of fascism: when corporations and governments collude to work against the population or fabric of society, to work together for their personal and overt interests.

Fascism leads to totalitarianism, which leads to complete bloodbaths. That is the history of it--every time.

China..asia.. specifically china..appears to be the next target of such or similar scenario. Once they are finished with feeding upon the the USA. (it is quite arguable that they are already there)

in the meantime, in the aftermath, they may try to build a new machine, slowly, in the north American continent, via Canada or similar. Talk of making Toronto the financial capital in a united north American state. as well..those NAFTA highway plans. Those centralized highways, exactly like the autobahn. Inner arteries, controlled arteries. The list is near endless, if one looks.

These energies and groups have long plans. Pay attention.

debt prison, using the prisoners as a slave labour manufacturing force that is 'for hire' by any corporation that is close enough to the given government to garner that favour. usually it is the military corporations.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/293430/Prisoners-will-be-put-to-work-40hrs-a-week-

PRISONERS WILL BE PUT TO WORK 40HRS A WEEK (UK)

The Justice Secretary has just announced tough plans to double the number of inmates working full-time because they are ­currently a “wasted resource”.

Welding, plastering, motor mechanics and printing will be among the jobs they will have to do instead of spending their days lying in their cells watching TV.

About 10,000 prisoners work a full week at present but this will rise to 20,000 under the new scheme. That represents about one in four inmates in England and Wales.

Mr Clarke said: “The public wants a penal system that ­properly punishes offenders and protects the law-abiding citizen. Yet our prisons are not delivering as they should.

“The first thing we are doing is introducing a full working week to get offenders off their beds and into purposeful activity.

“Right now, prisoners are ­simply a wasted resource – ­thousands of hours of manpower sitting idle.”


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[Peace of Mind]

It’s designed that way. It’s big business. You get cheap labor and the prison helps to sustain the towns in their vicinity (bakeries, laundries, etc). When the state lottery is always in the hundred millions yet there are schools closing everywhere there should be a cause for concern, especially when that money is suppose to go to schooling. Instead, we find money to always open up a new jail. There are thousands of laws and many of them have been and are still being implemented right under our noses…without our consent.

Now, we are at war with terrorism, which is only a convenient excuse to implement stricter laws. Terrorism is not a nation, it’s an idea. An idea that will put fear in people, forcing them to give up their freedom willingly…..all in the name of freedom. The irony. Fema camps will be the next phase if we don’t nip this in the bud.

Peace

[humanalien]

Ron Paul was just talking about that. People that
get busted for just a little pot are being sentenced
way to harshly.

[wolf_rt]

that's because stoners make good docile workers.... if your a disruptive psychopath you will get parole ASAP... psychopaths hurt production.

[jagman]

I spent five years of my life working in a maximum security prison. while I worked there, The state was good enough to pay for my schooling,
So I also have an Associates in Criminal Justice. I am by no means an expert, This is just my take on the subject.

I do not agree with people being put into jail because they have a substance abuse problem, Or because they owe debts or minor crimes.
But some of these criminals are very violent & pose a great risk to the general public.
A few years back I was working in an Ad Seg unit. ( the hole) I was conducting count I came to inmates Smiths cell, His light was not on and
this is a violation during count, So I turned his light on and he was staring right at me. On his shoulder was a figurine made out of human
fecies . It resembled the ginger bread man.(This was one cookie you would not want to eat lol.) He was trying his hand at Ventriloquism, He was asking me questions in a cartoonish voice like?
"Does my breath smell like crap?" and so on. Anyway this man was released a few weeks later. This is Not really someone I would like to see in my neighborhood.

[jaybee]

What is worrying is the...three strikes and you get life imprisonment.


that's why there is such a high prison population then...it's very OTT...and cruel to be imprisoned so long for something minor.....third strike rules or not.

And imagine how open to abuse that could be. All someone with a grudge would have to do would be slip a stolen item into someone's pocket, like a choc bar :/

Then grass them up and...bye bye for 25 years!!!





I spent five years of my life working in a maximum security prison. while I worked there, The state was good enough to pay for my schooling,
So I also have an Associates in Criminal Justice. I am by no means an expert, This is just my take on the subject.

I do not agree with people being put into jail because they have a substance abuse problem, Or because they owe debts or minor crimes.
But some of these criminals are very violent & pose a great risk to the general public.
A few years back I was working in an Ad Seg unit. ( the hole) I was conducting count I came to inmates Smiths cell, His light was not on and
this is a violation during count, So I turned his light on and he was staring right at me. On his shoulder was a figurine made out of human
fecies . It resembled the ginger bread man.(This was one cookie you would not want to eat lol.) He was trying his hand at Ventriloquism, He was asking me questions in a cartoonish voice like?
"Does my breath smell like crap?" and so on. Anyway this man was released a few weeks later. This is Not really someone I would like to see in my neighborhood.


Lovely...:ohwell:

errrrrrr thanks for sharing


It sounds like he had mental health problems...I wonder if distinctions are made for people with mental health problems.

Because they would be the ones who wouldn't comprehend fully the risks they were taking? Or just do something impulsively...etc

And maybe some might be fairly ok mentally when they went in...but then could go on a downward spiral...and who wouldn't, faced with harsh sentences like that.

(I'm not talking about the hardcore violent murderers....but I expect a case could even be made for them...like were they brought up in a violent household, or abused, bullied....treated bad as a little baby etc etc)

edit to say...not that they could be let lose on the public, when they are too far gone...

I'm actually very shocked with what I've just leant from the OP




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[Seikou-Kishi]

Maybe 100 out of 100 Americans are in prison, they just dont realize it. Razor wire and bars=Maximum security level, no razor wire or bars= minimum security level. If they can increase your security level anytime the guards want then you are a prisoner, they own you.

Well 99/100 are in prison, and 1/100 are in prison in prison lol. Just inside that super-layered prison, the prisoners and the prison guards aren't the same people; in the prison of the 99%, the prisoners guard each other... that's just sad. Same story here.

[Carmody]

I spent five years of my life working in a maximum security prison. while I worked there, The state was good enough to pay for my schooling,
So I also have an Associates in Criminal Justice. I am by no means an expert, This is just my take on the subject.

I do not agree with people being put into jail because they have a substance abuse problem, Or because they owe debts or minor crimes.
But some of these criminals are very violent & pose a great risk to the general public.
A few years back I was working in an Ad Seg unit. ( the hole) I was conducting count I came to inmates Smiths cell, His light was not on and
this is a violation during count, So I turned his light on and he was staring right at me. On his shoulder was a figurine made out of human
fecies . It resembled the ginger bread man.(This was one cookie you would not want to eat lol.) He was trying his hand at Ventriloquism, He was asking me questions in a cartoonish voice like?
"Does my breath smell like crap?" and so on. Anyway this man was released a few weeks later. This is Not really someone I would like to see in my neighborhood.

Yes, jagman.

I've had a family member work in Max, but the more serious Max, 23h+ lockdown/isolation. The family member was less than 30 seconds late to a gate, one day. When they arrived, the group had held one down and pulled their eyes out with a pencil. The importance of being prompt! Might cost someone their eyes. You never know. Only takes a few seconds.

A friend i went to school with...his father was the institutional crime scene investigator. To clarify for everyone else..he was the official government head prison crime scene investigator.(for multiple institutions) The horror stories I've heard, if repeated.. would have most of you screaming at me to stop..stop....