GOOD NEWS!!! AIDS VACCINE goes into clinical trials!

[Kristin]

Finally, some GOOOD, no GREAT, news!
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/1337822202001

From the Heart,
Wormhole

HIV/AIDS vaccine from Canadian university approved for human trials
Global News : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:19 AM


A team of researchers from the University of Western Ontario has been given the green light to begin human studies of an HIV vaccine.
Photo Credit: Dawn Madura , AP Photo
TORONTO -- A possible vaccine for HIV/AIDS has been approved for human trials, researchers from the University of Western Ontario announced on Tuesday.


University of Western Ontario researchers made the announcement on Tuesday morning that United States Food and Drug Administration has approved the vaccine for human trials.

According to a release by the University of Western Ontario, the vaccine "holds tremendous promise, having already proven to stimulate strong immune responses in preliminary toxicology tests with no adverse effects or safety risks."

According to Dr. Chil-Yong Kang, of Western's Schulich School of Medicine & Dentistry, the “FDA approval for human clinical trials is an extremely significant milestone for our vaccine, which has the potential to save the lives of millions of people around the world by preventing HIV infection."

Not only is it the only vaccine being developed in Canada, but it is also the "first and only preventative HIV vaccine based on a genetically modified killed whole virus."

The first phase of human trials, set to start in January 2012, will "double check the safety of the vaccine in humans, involving only 40 HIV-positive volunteers."




Read it on Global News: Global Toronto | HIV/AIDS vaccine from Canadian university approved for human trials

[Lifebringer]

Yes, halleluYAH! The suffering from this waste away lab created military bio chemical weapon against Gay males and permiscuous female and male blacks can end.

God has heard OUR Prayers for the suffering and dying around the world.
Thank you!!

[Calz]

If it truly works then that is good news ... remembering that *all* vaccines do some (accumulative) neurological damage.

Worthy tradeoff if you have HIV/AIDS (but I would hope to see more proof before endorsing it). That would be "proof" independent of big pharma testing ...

[Kristin]

Pretty Exciting though!!!
WOOOO HOOO!

By the way, any female can get aids without being promiscuous. LOL
Worm

[Hervé]

It's probably true and the research is probably genuine... it's when it gets to the manufacturing part through a pharma company that the planed alterations take place:

See Siberia9 posts such as this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?34643-Vaccines&p=354518&viewfull=1#post354518) and on this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21703-Travel-Vaccinations&p=232207&viewfull=1#post232207) to get the idea.

Any need to mention the on-going long list of disappeared, accidented, suicided microbiologists?

... and, no, I don't like cold showers and rained-on-parades either...

[wolf_rt]

Finally, some GOOOD, no GREAT, news!
but it is also the "first and only preventative HIV vaccine based on a genetically modified killed whole virus."

I'm assuming its not based on the aids virus, since nobody has ever seen it?


Can't see myself lining up for this one.

[etm567]

Yes, halleluYAH! The suffering from this waste away lab created military bio chemical weapon against Gay males and permiscuous female and male blacks can end.

You don't really mean that, do you? (Quite apart from misspelling it.) In Africa, men with HIV deliberately partner with little girls, virgins, whose good health, they believe, will cure their AIDS. This used to be the case; actually, I hope it isn't anymore. But I would imagine it still is practiced in some places.

Those little girls were very far from promiscuous, but they got AIDS anyway!

I was reading a bio of Joni Mitchell the other day, and the writer, after recounting her early days spent with various boyfriends, called her promiscuous. Gee, I thought, they would never do that to, say, Mick Jagger, or any male rock star. Sure, I can just see a bio of Mick, or Jimi Hendrix, or Eric Clapton, that focuses on who his various girlfriends were, then calls him "rather promiscuous." It certainly wouldn't be considered a serious biography, would it? No, a serious biography would be focusing on what they did musically, who they were playing with, what songs they were writing, and all that.... For Joni, this was all in the context of who she was living with.

Sexism, pure and simple.

[conk]

Doesn't Jim Humble make claims about MMS and AIDS? If MMS works, there's no need for a vaccine. Vaccines are vile, cruel jokes anyway.

[Arrowwind]

Yes, halleluYAH! The suffering from this waste away lab created military bio chemical weapon against Gay males and permiscuous female and male blacks can end.

You don't really mean that, do you? (Quite apart from misspelling it.) In Africa, men with HIV deliberately partner with little girls, virgins, whose good health, they believe, will cure their AIDS. This used to be the case; actually, I hope it isn't anymore. But I would imagine it still is practiced in some places.

.

Sexism? Promiscuous is promiscous. You put the judgement on the word. Dam, everyone knows Mick Jaguar is promiscous along with countless other stars. No big secret there.

pro·mis·cu·ous/prəˈmiskyo͞oəs/


Adjective:
(of a person) Having many sexual relationships, esp. transient ones.
(of sexual behavior or a society) Characterized by such relationships.

It is my judgment that such people as emt notes were targets of the biological weapons that creates AIDS.
Most of AIDS has been spread between adults not men seeking healing from virgins and secondary between mother and unborn...
It was a plan at racial and social extermination that backfired.


My question is... will this be a vaccine given to those who already have the disease or will everyone have to get it to protect society at large. They better dam well not come near me nor mine with their needles.

[RMorgan]

My question is... will this be a vaccine given to those who already have the disease or will everyone have to get it to protect society at large. They better dam well not come near me nor mine with their needles.

Technically, vaccines are not a form of cure, they are a form of prevention.

So, people who already are infected with the virus, can´t be healed with the vaccine.

However, creating a vaccine is a good step towards finding an effective cure.


Doesn't Jim Humble make claims about MMS and AIDS? If MMS works, there's no need for a vaccine. Vaccines are vile, cruel jokes anyway.

Conk,

MMS is not effective in many many cases. I know some people who tried it against cancer and HIV with no success, including a recent case exposed here by a forum member, who tried all alternative therapies to cure her cancer, with no success.

Cheers,

Raf.

[NancyV]

Nobody I know would take the chance of getting such a vaccine. Any time I hear a "cure" announced for the general population I immediately think there are probably some horrible side effects and possibly some deliberate diabolical plans for population reduction or sickening people so they have to spend MORE money on pharmaceuticals and medical treatment. But if someone wants to get such a vaccine and trusts it will help them that is their choice. I absolutely do not trust any vaccines put out by big pharma and pushed on everyone. Perhaps the inventor had good intentions but big pharma can and does add things to vaccines before they release them.

ADJUVANTS, PRESERVATIVES AND TISSUE FIXATIVES IN VACCINES

Vaccines contain a number of substances which can be divided into the following groups:

1. Micro-organisms, either bacteria or viruses, thought to be causing certain infectious diseases and which the vaccine is supposed to prevent. These are whole-cell proteins or just the broken-cell protein envelopes, and are called antigens.

2. Chemical substances which are supposed to enhance the immune response to the vaccine, called adjuvants.

3. Chemical substances which act as preservatives and tissue fixatives, which are supposed to halt any further chemical reactions and putrefaction (decomposition or multiplication) of the live or attenuated (or killed) biological constituents of the vaccine.

All these constituents of vaccines are toxic, and their toxicity may vary, as a rule, from one batch of vaccine to another.
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html

The two latest farces on a grand scale were the HPV vaccine "gardasil" which caused some deaths, paralysis and other awful side effects and the swine flu joke of a vaccine. People who got the vaccine were just as likely to get the flu as those who didn't get it, so it didn't work other than putting extra toxins into their system.

[Arrowwind]

My question is... will this be a vaccine given to those who already have the disease or will everyone have to get it to protect society at large. They better dam well not come near me nor mine with their needles.

Technically, vaccines are not a form of cure, they are a form of prevention.

So, people who already are infected with the virus, can´t be healed with the vaccine.

However, creating a vaccine is a good step towards finding an effective cure.


Doesn't Jim Humble make claims about MMS and AIDS? If MMS works, there's no need for a vaccine. Vaccines are vile, cruel jokes anyway.

Conk,

MMS is not effective in many many cases. I know some people who tried it against cancer and HIV with no success, including a recent case exposed here by a forum member, who tried all alternative therapies to cure her cancer, with no success.

Cheers,

Raf.

Contrary Morgan, vaccine work is moving into the realm of treating the already infected the thought being that the immune response will be stimulated against the disease that they already have... much work is going on in cancer research in this direction,, and some has been successful .. but dam if they will let us common folks have it when we need it. Homeopathy has proven out that this is possible in some cases of homeopathic vaccination for those already sick.

and agreed conk. I have seen HIV folks use MMS and it was not successful and ditto for Hep C. although viral load level markers did decrease but not cure.. where as intensive ozone therapy was. successful. It apparently requires a stronger oxidant.

[MiguelQ]

There is this news from spain.. and they say it might cure already infected
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/222490/20110930/hiv-cure-is-just-a-jab-away.htm

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Uh... Forgive my pessimism but i cant help but think : "problem, reaction, solution"

[shamanseeker]

Aids spread throughout the exact same parts of Africa where vaccination programmes had been carried out. The BBC did some research on this.
Vaccinations are a very effective form of genocide. The flu epidemic after the 1st world war was also a result of massive vaccination programmes on the troops.

[RMorgan]

Contrary Morgan, vaccine work is moving into the realm of treating the already infected the thought being that the immune response will be stimulated against the disease that they already have... much work is going on in cancer research in this direction,, and some has been successful .. but dam if they will let us common folks have it when we need it. Homeopathy has proven out that this is possible in some cases of homeopathic vaccination for those already sick.

and agreed conk. I have seen HIV folks use MMS and it was not successful and ditto for Hep C. although viral load level markers did decrease but not cure.. where as intensive ozone therapy was. successful. It apparently requires a stronger oxidant.

Well, vaccines can be prophylactic ( to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection), or therapeutic (vaccines against cancer).

Cheers,

Raf.

[ktlight]

There is a plant in Africa which is used to cure AIDS.

So there are at least 2 alternatives to vaccination. MMS and this plant.

There is probably also the Dr Hulda Clark route.

[yiolas]

Finally, some GOOOD, no GREAT, news!
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/1337822202001

From the Heart,
Wormhole

HIV/AIDS vaccine from Canadian university approved for human trials
Global News : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:19 AM


A team of researchers from the University of Western Ontario has been given the green light to begin human studies of an HIV vaccine.
Photo Credit: Dawn Madura , AP Photo
TORONTO -- A possible vaccine for HIV/AIDS has been approved for human trials, researchers from the University of Western Ontario announced on Tuesday.


University of Western Ontario researchers made the announcement on Tuesday morning that United States Food and Drug Administration has approved the vaccine for human trials.

According to a release by the University of Western Ontario, the vaccine "holds tremendous promise, having already proven to stimulate strong immune responses in preliminary toxicology tests with no adverse effects or safety risks."

According to Dr. Chil-Yong Kang, of Western's Schulich School of Medicine & Dentistry, the “FDA approval for human clinical trials is an extremely significant milestone for our vaccine, which has the potential to save the lives of millions of people around the world by preventing HIV infection."

Not only is it the only vaccine being developed in Canada, but it is also the "first and only preventative HIV vaccine based on a genetically modified killed whole virus."

The first phase of human trials, set to start in January 2012, will "double check the safety of the vaccine in humans, involving only 40 HIV-positive volunteers."




Read it on Global News: Global Toronto | HIV/AIDS vaccine from Canadian university approved for human trials

Sorry to rain on your parade Wormhole, but it is my moral obligation to help people realize what this hiv/aids scam is about. This is from a recent show of the Robert Scott Bell Show. ..............AIDS – acquired immune deficiency – is real enough, and easy to ‘acquire’ through many means – through drug, pharma, water, food poisoning; through prolonged intoxication with chemicals, or restriction of essential nutrients.

But while immune deficiency is quite real, HIV is entirely fake. Does this statement surprise you? Shock you? In the course of two hours, investigative journalist Liam Scheff, and host Robert Scott Bell will walk you through the experts on parade, as they tell you, in their own words, how the HIV test was constructed out of entirely normal proteins, that occur in both sick and healthy people. These proteins were supposed to come from one virus – but they come from a witch’s brew of cultured, contaminated cell lines in government laboratories, which had been growing for most of the 1970s. They were useless proteins looking for an illness to attach themselves to. Why? To keep the funding going.

Here's the link to the whole article Robert Scott Bell Show (http://www.robertscottbell.com/blog/hiv-fraud-liberation-day-by-liam-scheff-for-the-robert-scott-bell-show-and-natural-news/)

Right Click and download the whole show and enlighten yourselves. http://www.naturalnewsradio.com/RobertScottBell/MP3/RSBShow-2011-12-01-HIV-Fraud-Liberation-Day.mp3

[MiguelQ]

but where is proof that mms works...?

[RMorgan]

but where is proof that mms works...?

This is a good question, Miguel. There´s no proof. It seems it might work for some people, but personally, I haven´t heard from anyone who was directly cured by such methods.

All positive reports I hear about such methods are from distant internet testimonies.

Even here on Avalon, we have a few members who sadly have cancer or aids, and I´ve never seen any thread of any of those members claiming to be cured by such methods.

I know some persons who have tried literally everything to cure themselves from such terrible diseases, with no success.

I remember, a few weeks ago, of a thread here, of a Swedish avalonian with cancer who had tried almost all alternative healing methods and spent tens of thousands dollars, with no success. I don´t remember her user name and I can´t locate the thread, though.

Please, if any of you folks have battled with HIV or cancer and managed to cure them using such alternative methods, I´m very interested in hearing your testimony.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Kristin]

I've had a lot of very close friends die of Aids and suffer with HIV. Seeing is believing. Enough said there.

I have met a man who claimed he cured himself using CSilver. I do not know if this was true, but his sister was a good friend and she said it was.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Snoweagle]

Problem - Reaction - Solution

All this weepy cheery raving over a speculative cure for HIV is misplaced and a root cause of our global predicament. The responses here are truly pathetic, Be offended with me. Review the responses and identify yourselves the main cause of not my frustration but the gleeful praise bestowed on those that created the damn virus in the first place. Boy, they must be having a right good laugh reading these comments.

These comments so far extoll such happiness at an unproven, untested and non validated cure - this is the wrong reaction!
Why are you not screaming your heads off at the perpetrators, the creators of the damned virus in the first place; that should be your reaction!

[restrained, head down apology at my tone of frustration]

It is truly insignificant how many people are harmed by these man made concoctions, designed purposely to inflict pain, harm and death. What is significant is the lack of focus on the PROBLEM.
The problem still exists! It has not gone away! American, European, Asian, Israeli and a host of other pharmaceutical, bioengineering and chemical companies are producing even more deadly strains of insidious viruses to inflict the global slaughter and all this threads posts want to throw a party because after twenty odd years of dead and dieing they might have a cure. What is wrong with this forum, wake up people and regain the focus, we need to stop the manufacture of the darned things in the first place.

I too have friends who suffered, so do not belly ache my apparent lack of sympathy. And do not whine either, leave that for those who will be suffering when the new viruses come along and they will.

[Kristin]

Scream some more then, I've done the same. Here's a doc to get the spirit rolling...

http://documentaryheaven.com/the-origins-of-aids/

Wormhole

[Snoweagle]

There ya go, promoting a movie of disinformation. Deflecting focus.
It was developed deliberately in a lab and then promoted as vaccine. Not the wooly, "oh dear we may have made a mistake" thang.
In exactly the same way the UK foot an mouth outbreak "slipped" out of the lab in a waste pipe by mistake.
Or the outbreak of chronic Bubonic plague mysteriously infecting the people of the Ukraine the morning after a late evening low level fly by by military aircraft.
And lets not forget the swine flu junket eh Or the fact the US military exhumed the Spanish dead to "research" the bird flu DNA

The emphasis should be on open oversight over all and every branch of scientific endeavour.
Though if you are on commission Wormhole, tell them I watched it anyway, {nod and wink}

[Kristin]

Snow Eagle, Please, do share your information with us. Link us in. This isn't a thread about judgment, even if you and I are promiscuous, LOL... Seriously. I'm not here to judge, I'm here to gather the truth.

Thanks,
Wormhole

PS, that film actually proves everything you just said FYI

[Snoweagle]

Thank you Worm hole, though the movies emphasis does not expose the culprits.
My response to this thread was to highlight the mistaken joy at a righted wrong without the wrong righted.

"You want the truth you . . ." check out the pharmaceutical papers, laboratories and drug investment throughout Europe, US and Israel. Its all there. Check out the Camelot and Avalon forums, there is a host of info there also. Check out the warnings from medical and scientific professionals. Pick a topic and hit your search engine of choice. Check out the political shannigans by unscrupulous investors such as Bill Gates of Microsoft, openly promoting global genocide along with Warren Buffett who purchased the largest stake in US NW railways to move the prisoner internment trains to the FEMA camps, especially the two million prison hostel in Alaska. Europe is just as bad. Body bag capacity incinerators being erected across nations.

I cannot and will not educate you as you must have your own focus on what concerns each of us. Misplaced focus or ignorance is just not an excuse. All I am able to do is point people in the correct direction as each of us has to make our own decision at the end of the day.

That is why I portrayed my frustration at this thread, HIV cure maybe, so what, who is doing this, why are they doing this and how do we change or stop this occurring again?

[Kristin]

I hear you, and I agree. Though the movie does expose those that work for the culprits by name, that's a start. Have you seen the one about Bayer Co. What a bunch of useless money hungry wipes! Seriously! Then they drag these diseases on and on (when they could have a cure) and make a bunch of money off the drugs they sell you to stay alive on. Sick racket. Yes, I've looked into all these things. I'm glad that there is at least a Canadian Company going to trial and talking about it. Not too many take the step. They were making too much money off the sick to go there.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

Post script: It's actually an Canadian University that is doing this, read the first post. They are developing this on their own... go figure. I'm sure that the Pharm Companies are beating down the door though.

[VaughnB]

There is this news from spain.. and they say it might cure already infected
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/222490/20110930/hiv-cure-is-just-a-jab-away.htm
That was interesting post as well. I've been taking meds for way too long and would really like to get off them for the sake of my liver.

[Kristin]

Vaughn,
Have you been doing anything to boost your liver function? Hang in there! We're right with you!
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Siberia9]

Has anyone here used the Bob Beck Protocol for cancer/HIV? I have always wondered about that one. Some of the eccentric elites I know are using something similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcjcyXlsP2s

[Kerrigan]

No no and no.

Vaccines are NOT good news.

My mom is invalid. She was poisoned by the Hepatitis B vaccine. It claimed to prevent Hepatitis B. Instead, it ruined her life. Its been almost 6 years, and she still can't walk to her mailbox. Listen to this girl, she has the exacts symptoms of my mom:

0gCVCP8BFrU

How can anybody trust vaccines, whatever they claim to cure, after all the disastrous effects it has on people worldwide!

It's a sensitive subject for me. Sorry for being emotional !

[Kristin]

"No no and no.

Vaccines are NOT good news."

I agree with you and why. However, if we didn't have this disgustingly perverse system... Vaccines would be a good thing. There are many Doctor's out there who would agree with you and would like to see the Drug Industry have tests that would include the longevity of LONG TERM EFFECTS. This also goes for our GMO crops, as NO ONE knows what the long term effects are at this date, though the rise in gluten intolerance is astounding. Studies are now pointing to GMO seeds being the culprit. But we are being swindled here, there is no doubt about it. I do not agree with vaccines either and understand that they have been subverted. However, if this vaccine is done properly and in the spirit of true science and humanity it would be a wonderful thing. As to "IF" that is going to happen, well only time will tell that story. I hope for the best, yet prepare for the worst.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[MiguelQ]

You know guys. Because i studdy this genetics thngs.. i think and came up with lots of possible ways to cure..
But my problem is i dont own a lab.. and thus cant try.

I tryed to aproch hiv researchers my emai but they never reply.

I believe the cure is not using pharma of today, because it is outdated.. but using gene therapy... the thing is.. its not allowed, or its very hard to fda approve.

I have one method that im sure it would work... and its very easy... just by making our cells immune to the receptor.. and killing infected ones. Genetically altered would not be affdcted by the killing process....

[wolf_rt]

if MMS has had some impact on aids, i wonder if the bi-carb soda treatment would have any effect?

[PixieDust]

GOOD news?

haha ok sure.

I skimmed through the responses didn't read all of them fully, but anything thats manufactured by the pharma companies is not good news. This just sounds like another money making scam.

Create a disease....infect people...make money off the "medicine"...create a vaccine for everyone who didn't get the disease.

sound familiar? Because it happens with almost every major virus/disease out there. Just wait, when this one dies down and money starts dropping off they'll introduce vaccines for cancer...

oh but wait they have. the cervical cancer that they want prepubescent 11 year old children to have... that has a side effect of death or possible infertility among many others. Sounds like a great idea to me.

Herbs are preventative medicine. Sometimes they can't work if the virus has grown too much or gone too deep in the system. Though they work best (in my opinion) You have to take them before or as soon as you start getting something for them to work the best. Yes they work to cure too but it works best to take them before so you dont get sick at all.

If vaccines were created by people with good intentions instead of money-by-fear assholes then they would be a wonderful aid to human health. But they're not.

I personally feel everything you need to stay healthy is grown naturally and can be found in nature. When humans start changing it and messing around with the structures then they become harmful.

I mean come on... hasn't anybody seen/read I Am Legend? (i think the book title might have been different?) Obviously it was hollywoodized and dramatic but the point was there. and actually its not that dramatic... just twisted.

I thought the majority of avalon was smarter than to believe that anything that comes from a lab controlled by the powers that be/were is a good thing.

I do hope the AIDs sufferers do find health and peace within themselves. I just dont think injecting yourself with a modified virus mixed with god knows what is a good idea.

rant over. peace!

[Kristin]

Pixie Dust, Please do read the posts... you will find no disagreement here. I think each and every one of us is on the same page. Thank you for your post!
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Kristin]

You know guys. Because i studdy this genetics thngs.. i think and came up with lots of possible ways to cure..
But my problem is i dont own a lab.. and thus cant try.

I tryed to aproch hiv researchers my emai but they never reply.

I believe the cure is not using pharma of today, because it is outdated.. but using gene therapy... the thing is.. its not allowed, or its very hard to fda approve.


I have one method that im sure it would work... and its very easy... just by making our cells immune to the receptor.. and killing infected ones. Genetically altered would not be affdcted by the killing process....

Interesting, can this be done with a specific receptor and would this block positive information form being organized genetically? ie: could the reprogram have any side effects or do you need to take this into further study?
Great post,
Thanks!
Wormhole

[MiguelQ]

[QUOTE=MiguelQ;386857]

I believe the cure is not using pharma of today, because it is outdated.. but using gene therapy... the thing is.. its not allowed, or its very hard to fda approve.

[TargeT]

Uh... Forgive my pessimism but i cant help but think : "problem, reaction, solution"

can't help but agree.

I'll never take this "vaccine"... ever. (haven't had anyother ones,, dunno why I'd treat this one differently)

[Semnyi]

Hi, this is a very deep subject. The two figures I have been listening to the most on this subject is Leonard Horowitz, and Dr. Bob Beck. Here is a video on Dr. Bob Beck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbAjfm0J134 A cured customer is a lost customer. Here is Leo Horowitz streaming channel, he gets a little excited sometime, but there is lots of good information there. http://www.livestream.com/thelovechanneltelevision I hope you find the answers you are looking for. Meditation and wisdom are of a single essence, Semnyi

[wolf_rt]

First I'm not sure if HIV is real. however the truth is people reduce their level when taking medication.
The problem is if HIV is the virus that causes aids.

Indeed, is there ANY evidence that HIV is a virus??? It's hard to believe science, when they don't appear to have the slightest clue what they're doing.

Admittedly it does appear to act as a virus, but if it IS one, then surely SOMEBODY would have seen it?

rna virus? i don't know much about genetics. are there other 'virus' that we cant see?

[VaughnB]

Vaughn,
Have you been doing anything to boost your liver function? Hang in there! We're right with you!
From the Heart,
Wormhole
I just take milkthistle and eat really good, plus keep my stress pretty low, live in a wonderful climate, sun, fresh air.

[Arrowwind]

Contrary Morgan, vaccine work is moving into the realm of treating the already infected the thought being that the immune response will be stimulated against the disease that they already have... much work is going on in cancer research in this direction,, and some has been successful .. but dam if they will let us common folks have it when we need it. Homeopathy has proven out that this is possible in some cases of homeopathic vaccination for those already sick.[/COLOR}

[COLOR=darkorchid]and agreed conk. I have seen HIV folks use MMS and it was not successful and ditto for Hep C. although viral load level markers did decrease but not cure.. where as intensive ozone therapy was. successful. It apparently requires a stronger oxidant.

Well, vaccines can be prophylactic ( to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection), or therapeutic (vaccines against cancer).

Cheers,

Raf.

Yes, some vaccines can be prophylactic but in the process of providing this artificial protection they wreak havoc with the immune system, are known to cause autism in many, auto immune problems in others, and then in the end do not offer lifetime immunity... just look at the mess the chickenpox vaccine is making... never mind the many years of issues with the MMR and oh, so many others. I could go on and on regarding the ill fate of vaccination.


I think there is an over reaction here regarding this post. Most of us feel that vaccines are no good and that HIV was fraudenlty put upon the masses but the government... kinda preaching to the choir here.


There is a cure for HIV and that is found in ozone therapy.

How many times do I have to say it before someone hears?

It must be direct ozone injection... not RHP.

It must be done frequently for a number of months without interruption.

This will cure hep c and b as well.

[WhiteFeather]

I'm not a big fan of vaccines/poisons if you will, yes this is great news, but the other great news is that our DNA is being reprogrammed/restructured/updated as we speak, thus this will be curing us from many diseases/illnesses automatically as well. DNA Upgrade 2.0. Ohh and Please Enjoy the free upgrade that's being downloaded wirelessly from The Universe, Free of charge. Many Doctors are gonna be out of patients soon, so that means more golf time for them.

[Arrowwind]

So far I am failing to see this whitefeather... this may be your dream, a sacred dream, a potential reality... and surely it would be great if it was happening... but I do not yet see it. We can only be self determined only to the exact level that we have prepared ourselves to be self determinedThe key to surviving is having the right teacher and connect with inner guidance, regarding in health and all things of import to life and living.

I for one will not be sitting around waiting for my DNA to upgrade.

[MiguelQ]

First I'm not sure if HIV is real. however the truth is people reduce their level when taking medication.
The problem is if HIV is the virus that causes aids.

Indeed, is there ANY evidence that HIV is a virus??? It's hard to believe science, when they don't appear to have the slightest clue what they're doing.

Admittedly it does appear to act as a virus, but if it IS one, then surely SOMEBODY would have seen it?

rna virus? i don't know much about genetics. are there other 'virus' that we cant see?

It's not about can't see..

There are DNA virus and rna virus.

DNA is the double stand type usually a maternal and paternal chain.
The rna is a single strand type and with a little difference in the structure.
because of the nature of biology, DNA is read and the decoding is with one type of way that rarely mistakes the translating process.
But rna to be usable for the cell, it needs to first be converted to dna, and the process to do that is very unstable, and prone to mistakes in the sequence, causing variations in the final dna, this is why hiv is hard for our body to terminate, because those variations will form the HIV coat that will be different every time the tba to dna process happens. And our anti bodies can create immunity to a coat, but because that coat is always changing, the body, must be always creating new antibodies for each new virus released in the body.

Because the virus is always replicating inside the cell... this process of creating new antibodies all the time ..turns the body tired, and wasts resources. And immunity never is achieved.

Thats why my aproach of killing the infected cells to stop the virus replicating on those infected cells would break the cycle.

And because we cant kill t cells otherwise we would get sick and die from the smallest infection, i would suggest injecting t cells into the body or make the body to create new t cells but, immune to hiv, which is possible, modifying the t cell genes to exclude the hiv receptors that bind to it. Closing that way the door to hiv new cycles.

Dont know if anyone tryed this..
But this approach is very similar in concept to the guy cured from hiv, talked on the news.