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jackovesk
23rd December 2011, 03:52
December 22, 2011

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By Wayne Madsen

British intelligence reported in February 2002 that the Israeli Mossad ran the Arab hijacker cells that were later blamed by the U.S. government's 9/11 Commission for carrying out the aerial attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. WMR has received details of the British intelligence report which was suppressed by the government of then-Prime Minister Tony Blair.

A Mossad unit consisting of six Egyptian- and Yemeni-born Jews infiltrated "Al Qaeda" cells in Hamburg (the Atta-Mamoun Darkanzali cell), south Florida, and Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates in the months before 9/11. The Mossad not only infiltrated cells but began to run them and give them specific orders that would eventually culminate in their being on board four regularly-scheduled flights originating in Boston, Washington Dulles, and Newark, New Jersey on 9/11.

The Mossad infiltration team comprised six Israelis, comprising two cells of three agents, who all received special training at a Mossad base in the Negev Desert in their future control and handling of the "Al Qaeda" cells. One Mossad cell traveled to Amsterdam where they submitted to the operational control of the Mossad's Europe Station, which operates from the El Al complex at Schiphol International Airport. The three-man Mossad unit then traveled to Hamburg where it made contact with Mohammed Atta, who believed they were sent by Osama Bin Laden. In fact, they were sent by Ephraim Halevy, the chief of Mossad.

The second three-man Mossad team flew to New York and then to southern Florida where they began to direct the "Al Qaeda" cells operating from Hollywood, Miami, Vero Beach, Delray Beach, and West Palm Beach. Israeli "art students," already under investigation by the Drug Enforcement Administration for casing the offices and homes of federal law enforcement officers, had been living among and conducting surveillance of the activities, including flight school training, of the future Arab "hijacker" cells, particularly in Hollywood and Vero Beach.

In August 2001, the first Mossad team flew with Atta and other Hamburg "Al Qaeda" members to Boston. Logan International Airport's security was contracted to Huntleigh USA, a firm owned by an Israeli airport security firm closely connected to Mossad — International Consultants on Targeted Security – ICTS. ICTS's owners were politically connected to the Likud Party, particularly the Netanyahu faction and then-Jerusalem mayor and future Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. It was Olmert who personally interceded with New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani to have released from prison five Urban Moving Systems employees, identified by the CIA and FBI agents as Mossad agents. The Israelis were the only suspects arrested anywhere in the United States on 9/11 who were thought to have been involved in the 9/11 attacks.

The two Mossad teams sent regular coded reports on the progress of the 9/11 operation to Tel Aviv via the Israeli embassy in Washington, DC. WMR has learned from a Pentagon source that leading Americans tied to the media effort to pin 9/11 on Arab hijackers, Osama Bin Laden, and the Taliban were present in the Israeli embassy on September 10, 2001, to coordinate their media blitz for the subsequent days and weeks following the attacks. It is more than likely that FBI counter-intelligence agents who conduct surveillance of the Israeli embassy have proof on the presence of the Americans present at the embassy on September 10. Some of the Americans are well-known to U.S. cable news television audiences.

In mid-August, the Mossad team running the Hamburg cell in Boston reported to Tel Aviv that the final plans for 9/11 were set. The Florida-based Mossad cell reported that the documented "presence" of the Arab cell members at Florida flight schools had been established.

The two Mossad cells studiously avoided any mention of the World Trade Center or targets in Washington, DC in their coded messages to Tel Aviv. Halevy covered his tracks by reporting to the CIA of a "general threat" by an attack by Arab terrorists on a nuclear plant somewhere on the East Coast of the United States. CIA director George Tenet dismissed the Halevy warning as "too non-specific." The FBI, under soon-to-be-departed director Louis Freeh, received the "non-specific" warning about an attack on a nuclear power plant and sent out the information in its routine bulletins to field agents but no high alert was ordered.

The lack of a paper trail pointing to "Al Qaeda" as the masterminds on 9/11, which could then be linked to Al Qaeda's Mossad handlers, threw off the FBI. On April 19, 2002, FBI director Robert Mueller, in a speech to San Francisco's Commonwealth Club, stated: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper — either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere — that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot."

The two Mossad "Al Qaeda" infiltration and control teams had also helped set up safe houses for the quick exfiltration of Mossad agents from the United States. Last March, WMR reported: "WMR has learned from two El Al sources who worked for the Israeli airline at New York’s John F. Kennedy airport that on 9/11, hours after the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) grounded all civilian domestic and international incoming and outgoing flights to and from the United States, a full El Al Boeing 747 took off from JFK bound for Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion International Airport. The two El Al employee sources are not Israeli nationals but legal immigrants from Ecuador who were working in the United States for the airline. The flight departed JFK at 4:11 pm and its departure was, according to the El Al sources, authorized by the direct intervention of the U.S. Department of Defense. U.S. military officials were on the scene at JFK and were personally involved with the airport and air traffic control authorities to clear the flight for take-off. According to the 9/11 Commission report, Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta ordered all civilian flights to be grounded at 9:45 am on September 11." WMR has learned from British intelligence sources that the six-man Mossad team was listed on the El Al flight manifest as El Al employees.

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WMR previously reported that the Mossad cell operating in the Jersey City-Weehawken area of New Jersey through Urban Moving Systems was suspected by some in the FBI and CIA of being involved in moving explosives into the World Trade Center as well as staging "false flag" demonstrations at least two locations in north Jersey: Liberty State Park and an apartment complex in Jersey City as the first plane hit the World Trade Center's North Tower. One team of Urban Moving Systems Mossad agents was arrested later on September 11 and jailed for five months at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. Some of their names turned up in a joint CIA-FBI database as known Mossad agents, along with the owner of Urban Moving Systems, Dominik Suter, whose name also appeared on a "Law Enforcement Sensitive" FBI 9/11 suspects list, along with the names of key "hijackers," including Mohammed Atta and Hani Hanjour, as well as the so-called "20th hijacker," Zacarias Moussaoui.

Suter was allowed to escape the United States after the FBI made initial contact with him at the Urban Moving Systems warehouse in Weehawken, New Jersey, following the 9/11 attacks. Suter was later permitted to return to the United States where he was involved in the aircraft parts supply business in southern Florida, according to an informe3d source who contacted WMR. Suter later filed for bankruptcy in Florida for Urban Moving Systems and other businesses he operated: Suburban Moving & Storage Inc.; Max Movers, Inc.; Invsupport; Woodflooring Warehouse Corp.; One Stop Cleaning LLC; and City Carpet Upholstery, Inc. At the time of the bankruptcy filing in Florida, Suter listed his address as 1867 Fox Court, Wellington, FL 33414, with a phone number of 561 204-2359.

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From the list of creditors it can be determined that Suter had been operating in the United States since 1993, the year of the first attack on the World Trade Center. In 1993, Suter began racking up American Express credit card charges totaling $21,913.97. Suter also maintained credit card accounts with HSBC Bank and Orchard Bank c/o HSBC Card Services of Salinas, California, among other banks. Suter also did business with the Jewish Community Center of Greater Palm Beach in Florida and Ryder Trucks in Miami. Miami and southern Florida were major operating areas for cells of Israeli Mossad agents masquerading as "art students," who were living and working near some of the identified future Arab "hijackers" in the months preceding 9/11.

ABC's 20/20 correspondent John Miller ensured that the Israeli connection to "Al Qaeda's" Arab hijackers was buried in an "investigation" of the movers' activities on 9/11. Anchor Barbara Walters helped Miller in putting a lid on the story about the movers and Suter aired on June 21, 2002. Miller then went on to become the FBI public affairs spokesman to ensure that Mueller and other FBI officials kept to the "Al Qaeda" script as determined by the Bush administration and the future 9/11 Commission. But former CIA chief of counter-terrorism Vince Cannistraro let slip to ABC an important clue to the operations of the Mossad movers in New Jersey when he stated that the Mossad agents "set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists in the area, particularly in the New Jersey-New York area." The "intelligence operation" turned out to have been the actual 9/11 attacks. And it was no coincidence that it was ABC's John Miller who conducted a May 1998 rare interview of Osama Bin Laden at his camp in Afghanistan. Bin Laden played his part well for future scenes in the fictional "made-for-TV" drama known as 9/11.

WMR has also learned from Italian intelligence sources that Mossad's running of "Al Qaeda" operatives did not end with running the "hijacking" teams in the United States and Hamburg. Other Arab "Al Qaeda" operatives, run by Mossad, were infiltrated into Syria but arrested by Syrian intelligence. Syria was unsuccessful in turning them to participate in intelligence operations in Lebanon. Detailed information on Bin Laden's support team was offered to the Bush administration, up to days prior to 9/11, by Gutbi al-Mahdi, the head of the Sudanese Mukhabarat intelligence service. The intelligence was rejected by the Biush White House. It was later reported that Sudanese members of "Al Qaeda's" support network were double agents for Mossad who had also established close contacts with Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh and operated in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Eritrea, as well as Sudan. The Mossad connection to Al Qaeda in Sudan was likely known by the Sudanese Mukhabarat, a reason for the rejection of its intelligence on "Al Qaeda" by the thoroughly-Mossad penetrated Bush White House. Yemen had also identified "Al Qaeda" members who were also Mossad agents. A former chief of Mossad revealed to this editor in 2002 that Yemeni-born Mossad "deep insertion" commandos spotted Bin Laden in the Hadhramaut region of eastern Yemen after his escape from Tora Bora in Afghanistan, following the U.S. invasion.

French intelligence determined that other Egyptian- and Yemeni-born Jewish Mossad agents were infiltrated into Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates as radical members of the Muslim Brotherhood. However, the "Muslim Brotherhood" agents actually were involved in providing covert Israeli funding for "Al Qaeda" activities. On February 21, 2006, WMR reported on the U.S. Treasury Secretary's firing by President Bush over information discovered on the shady "Al Qaeda" accounts in the United Arab Emirates: "Banking insiders in Dubai report that in March 2002, U.S. Secretary of Treasury Paul O’Neill visited Dubai and asked for documents on a $109,500 money transfer from Dubai to a joint account held by hijackers Mohammed Atta and Marwan al Shehhi at Sun Trust Bank in Florida. O’Neill also asked UAE authorities to close down accounts used by Al Qaeda . . . . The UAE complained about O’Neill’s demands to the Bush administration. O’Neill’s pressure on the UAE and Saudis contributed to Bush firing him as Treasury Secretary in December 2002 " O'Neill may have also stumbled on the "Muslim Brotherhood" Mossad operatives operating in the emirates who were directing funds to "Al Qaeda."

After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the rise to power of the Taliban in Afghanistan, Sharjah's ruler, Sultan bin Mohammed al-Qasimi, who survived a palace coup attempt in 1987, opened his potentate to Russian businessmen like Viktor Bout, as well as to financiers of radical Muslim groups, including the Taliban and "Al Qaeda."

Moreover, this Israeli support for "Al Qaeda" was fully known to Saudi intelligence, which approved of it in order to avoid compromising Riyadh. The joint Israeli-Saudi support for "Al Qaeda" was well-known to the Sharjah and Ras al Khaimah-based aviation network of the now-imprisoned Russian, Viktor Bout, jailed in New York on terrorism charges. The presence of Bout in New York, a hotbed of Israeli intelligence control of U.S. federal prosecutors, judges, as well as the news media, is no accident: Bout knows enough about the Mossad activities in Sharjah in support of the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, where Bout also had aviation and logistics contracts, to expose Mossad as the actual mastermind behind 9/11. Bout's aviation empire also extended to Miami and Dallas, two areas that were nexuses for the Mossad control operations for the "Al Qaeda" flight training operations of the Arab cell members in the months prior to 9/11.

Bout's path also crossed with "Al Qaeda's" support network at the same bank in Sharjah, HSBC. Mossad's phony Muslim Brotherhood members from Egypt and Yemen controlled financing for "Al Qaeda" through the HSBC accounts in Sharjah. Mossad's Dominik Suter also dealt with HSBC in the United States. The FBI's chief counter-terrorism agent investigating Al Qaeda, John O'Neill, became aware of the "unique" funding mechanisms for Al Qaeda. It was no mistake that O'Neill was given the job as director of security for the World Trade Center on the eve of the attack. O'Neill perished in the collapse of the complex.Mossad uses a number of Jews born in Arab countries to masquerade as Arabs. They often carry forged or stolen passports from Arab countries or nations in Europe that have large Arab immigrant populations, particularly Germany, France, Britain, Denmark, Sweden, and the Netherlands.

For Mossad, the successful 9/11 terrorist "false flag" operation was a success beyond expectations. The Bush administration, backed by the Blair government, attacked and occupied Iraq, deposing Saddam Hussein, and turned up pressure on Israel's other adversaries, including Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Hamas, and Lebanese Hezbollah. The Israelis also saw the U.S., Britain, and the UN begin to crack down on the Lebanese Shi'a diamond business in Democratic Republic of Congo and West Africa, and with it, the logistics support provided by Bout's aviation companies, which resulted in a free hand for Tel Aviv to move in on Lebanese diamond deals in central and west Africa.

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Then-Israeli Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu commented on the 9/11 attacks on U.S. television shortly after they occurred. Netanyahu said: "It is very good!" It now appears that Netanyahu, in his zeal, blew Mossad's cover as the masterminds of 9/11.

Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist, author and syndicated columnist. He has written for several renowned papers and blogs.

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Madsen is a regular contributor on Russia Today. He has been a frequent political and national security commentator on Fox News and has also appeared on ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, and MS-NBC. Madsen has taken on Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity on their television shows. He has been invited to testifty as a witness before the US House of Representatives, the UN Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, and an terrorism investigation panel of the French government.

As a U.S. Naval Officer, he managed one of the first computer security programs for the U.S. Navy. He subsequently worked for the National Security Agency, the Naval Data Automation Command, Department of State, RCA Corporation, and Computer Sciences Corporation.

Madsen is a member of the Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ), Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO), and the National Press Club. He is a regular contributor to Opinion Maker.

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norman
23rd December 2011, 08:44
hmmm, not so fast Mr.

What about the interceptor stand down order? US finger prints are on this thing too.

I've heard of Wayne Madsen and assumed he was the real deal but something fishy is going on here. Time to burn a few minions, me thinks.

music
23rd December 2011, 09:27
Mossad may have orchestrated getting the right people in the right place to take the blame, but Al Qaeda is fundamentally a CIA creature anyway, so that's no biggie. This assumes the hijakers brought down WTC 1, 2, and 7, and everyone knows that is crap. All three were controlled demolitions that would have necessitated months of access to the internal structure of the 3 buildings. It has nothing but US finger prints all over it, the only grey area is under who's ultimate order? I smell bull**** flavoured smokescreen.

Jenci
23rd December 2011, 10:38
This assumes Al Queda cells actually existed and Mossad, CIA and MI6 don't all report to the same people.

I'm not sure if this is the case of someone connecting a few dots and not seeing the bigger picture or deliberate disinformation which just reinforces the idea that terrorists hijacked big planes and flew them into the buildings.

Jeanette

jackovesk
8th January 2012, 14:13
This assumes Al Queda cells actually existed and Mossad, CIA and MI6 don't all report to the same people.

Jeanette


hmmm, not so fast Mr.

What about the interceptor stand down order? US finger prints are on this thing too.

I've heard of Wayne Madsen and assumed he was the real deal but something fishy is going on here. Time to burn a few minions, me thinks.

Yes they do Jenci,

Don't forget the British themselves, nothing like this happens without Chatham House approval...

Jenci
8th January 2012, 14:40
This assumes Al Queda cells actually existed and Mossad, CIA and MI6 don't all report to the same people.

Jeanette


hmmm, not so fast Mr.

What about the interceptor stand down order? US finger prints are on this thing too.

I've heard of Wayne Madsen and assumed he was the real deal but something fishy is going on here. Time to burn a few minions, me thinks.

Yes they do Jenci,

Don't forget the British themselves, nothing like this happens without Chatham House approval...


Hi Jack,

I was saying the same. The article was written on the assumption that CIA, MI6 and Mossad don't all report to the same people.

It was my roundabout way of saying that I believe that they all report to the same people & Al Queda cells don't exist like they say they do. Sorry for the confusion.
Jeanette

DNA
8th January 2012, 14:55
I don't buy this type of anti Jewish rhetoric, I think it kind of borders on racism. As such, I kind of just tune this stuff out.

I have seen far too much data that puts this plainly at the feet of the neo-cons. And this little blurb of a picture kind of echoes a gleeful sentiment at laying this at the feet of some Zionist conspiracy.

I worry you may be anti-Zionist Jackoveck. I have seen you correct Darla for using the word ascension because you broke it down as having the word zion in it, and we can't have any association with this can we?

It's one thing to lay conspiracies at the feet of specific perpetrators, it's quite another to try and lay them at the feet of an entire culture.

mod edit: let's keep the forum friendly and lay down personal attacks, shall we. This article is a reprint from British Intelligence... no need to shoot the messenger, though you can attack the information all you want... Have fun

Leon
8th January 2012, 15:13
I don't buy it all, but it is possible that they were involved.
demolition for sure.
Can anyone confirm, that there was a lot of rebuilding going on several to many floors of the trade centres 6 months prior to these events?
Friends of mine went through the twin towers at this time and there was what sounded like construction work happening on many floors. they were not allowed to go on these floors.

it's easy to blame those who accept resposibility in excange for? cash?
It was an excuse for war, just like weapons of mass destruction.

DreamsInDigital
8th January 2012, 15:29
Here's another little tid-bit to consider. 9-11 was a Global Elite Sponsored Event, and the Al Queda and Taliban are not some rouge global Terrorist Cell Network. But, an Global Elite Network, created specifically for carrying out Global Elite sponsored false flag attacks. This whole war on terrorism is fake, and just for continuing to raise fear levels and control the masses.

jackovesk
8th January 2012, 15:47
I don't buy it, I'm sorry Jack, but your anti Jewish rhetoric kind of borders on racism. As such, I kind of just tune you out on this stuff.
I have seen far too much data that puts this plainly at the feet of the neo-cons. And your little blurb of a picuture kind of echoes a gleefull sentiment at laying this at the feet of some Zionist conspiracy.
I have seen you correct Darla for using the word ascension because you broke it down as having the word zion in it, and we can't have any association with this can we.
It's one thing to lay conspiracies at the feet of specific perpetraters, it's quite another to try and lay them at the feet of an entire culture.

What the hell are you talking about DNA,

Is this a personal attack on me because I don't like the word 'Ascension', what has that got anything to do with racism...

I was merely breaking up the word Ascension into syllables learnt through Rik Clay's research..!

For anyone else here is what DNA is on about...


There is that word again...

Ascension...

If you break-down that word in syllables...

Asc/en/Sion - R.I.P Rik Clay


Zion (Hebrew: ציון‎) (also transliterated Sion, Tzion or Tsion) is a place name often used as a synonym for Jerusalem.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Zion

Be careful using that word Darla...

The Message resonates but can't you find another word besides Ascension..?

So I don't like the word Ascension, IMHO it has too many different meanings...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38223-Love-is-the-Key-to-Ascension-Into-Higher-Realms-Greg-Giles-January-7-2012&p=397925#post397925

Rik Clays research has more to do with the Priory of Sion and Dan Browns book the The Da Vinci Code which he believes has many wholes in it just like the word Ascension...

Now take that Ridiculous Racist Accusation back...

:focus:

Seikou-Kishi
8th January 2012, 17:41
I know people are saying Jacko's post verges on racism, but I know from extended contact with him that he is most certainly not racist. It could be said he is blunt, but that is a matter of enthusiasm, not of racism.

Jenci
8th January 2012, 18:49
I have seen far too much data that puts this plainly at the feet of the neo-cons. And your little blurb of a picuture kind of echoes a gleefull sentiment at laying this at the feet of some Zionist conspiracy.


Perhaps if you are seeing those responsible for 911 at the neo-cons, then you haven't quite reached the end of the rabbit hole.

Talking about zionists is not racist. One of the things the PTB have done is convince people that if you mention 'zionists' you are talking about 'jews'.
It is the same type of word association conditioning that they have used to link 'conspiracy' with 'theory' (as in not fact)

This is not a race issue but it is a very difficult conditioned response to break. All the time this 'racist' response is here, the PTB at the top of the pyramid remain hidden.

I would even go so far as to suggest that all racist issues have been manufactured by the PTB to keep the people fighting amongst themselves and oblivious to what is going on at the top of the pyramid.

Jack is not being racist. He's like many of us who have realised that we need to start talking about these issues if we are going to bring down this pyramid of power.

David Icke speaks about this subject well. He is certainly not the only one who is talking about a Zionist conspiracy. This video may help to explain what is the power over and above the neo-cons.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=weLnzbYxoUQ

Jeanette

PathWalker
8th January 2012, 20:44
The whole drama is US internal.
And there are many attempts to derail it to external sources as to revert to xenophobia and relieve the perpetrators.
Do not be fooled, or misguided by hate and propaganda.
It is easy to see how the USA citizens gave out their civil liberty, as an outcome. I find this very much NWO foot print.

Seikou-Kishi
9th January 2012, 00:27
Perhaps if you are seeing those responsible for 911 at the neo-cons, then you haven't quite reached the end of the rabbit hole.

Talking about zionists is not racist. One of the things the PTB have done is convince people that if you mention 'zionists' you are talking about 'jews'.
It is the same type of word association conditioning that they have used to link 'conspiracy' with 'theory' (as in not fact)

This is not a race issue but it is a very difficult conditioned response to break. All the time this 'racist' response is here, the PTB at the top of the pyramid remain hidden.

I would even go so far as to suggest that all racist issues have been manufactured by the PTB to keep the people fighting amongst themselves and oblivious to what is going on at the top of the pyramid.

Jack is not being racist. He's like many of us who have realised that we need to start talking about these issues if we are going to bring down this pyramid of power.

David Icke speaks about this subject well. He is certainly not the only one who is talking about a Zionist conspiracy. This video may help to explain what is the power over and above the neo-cons.

[trimming video out of quote]

Jeanette

A refreshingly sober, non-sensationalist and perspicacious précis; you have my thanks.

DNA
9th January 2012, 03:10
I don't buy it, I'm sorry Jack, but your anti Jewish rhetoric kind of borders on racism. As such, I kind of just tune you out on this stuff.
I have seen far too much data that puts this plainly at the feet of the neo-cons. And your little blurb of a picuture kind of echoes a gleefull sentiment at laying this at the feet of some Zionist conspiracy.
I have seen you correct Darla for using the word ascension because you broke it down as having the word zion in it, and we can't have any association with this can we.
It's one thing to lay conspiracies at the feet of specific perpetraters, it's quite another to try and lay them at the feet of an entire culture.

What the hell are you talking about DNA,

Is this a personal attack on me because I don't like the word 'Ascension', what has that got anything to do with racism...

I was merely breaking up the word Ascension into syllables learnt through Rik Clay's research..!

For anyone else here is what DNA is on about...


There is that word again...

Ascension...

If you break-down that word in syllables...

Asc/en/Sion - R.I.P Rik Clay


Zion (Hebrew: ציון‎) (also transliterated Sion, Tzion or Tsion) is a place name often used as a synonym for Jerusalem.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Zion

Be careful using that word Darla...

The Message resonates but can't you find another word besides Ascension..?

So I don't like the word Ascension, IMHO it has too many different meanings...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38223-Love-is-the-Key-to-Ascension-Into-Higher-Realms-Greg-Giles-January-7-2012&p=397925#post397925

Rik Clays research has more to do with the Priory of Sion and Dan Browns book the The Da Vinci Code which he believes has many wholes in it just like the word Ascension...

Now take that Ridiculous Racist Accusation back...

:focus:

Well I'm glad to hear your not racist. But why lay a trout line of hooks in which to bring out the worst in folks? For the record I think I'm an average guy with average sentimentalities. But when I read what you have posted, it begots a conversation that is just not tactfull.
Am I wrong in thinking there is a lack of tact in presenting information in a manner consistant with dictators who in the not so distant past began their arguments for genocide in the same manner?
My thinking here is simple enough. Call out individuals, players or governments, not whole nationalities of folks or their religious beliefs.

DNA
9th January 2012, 03:28
The whole drama is US internal.
And there are many attempts to derail it to external sources as to revert to xenophobia and relieve the perpetrators.
Do not be fooled, or misguided by hate and propaganda.
It is easy to see how the USA citizens gave out their civil liberty, as an outcome. I find this very much NWO foot print.

I agree with Pathwalker 100%.




Perhaps if you are seeing those responsible for 911 at the neo-cons, then you haven't quite reached the end of the rabbit hole.

Talking about zionists is not racist. One of the things the PTB have done is convince people that if you mention 'zionists' you are talking about 'jews'.
It is the same type of word association conditioning that they have used to link 'conspiracy' with 'theory' (as in not fact)

This is not a race issue but it is a very difficult conditioned response to break. All the time this 'racist' response is here, the PTB at the top of the pyramid remain hidden.

I would even go so far as to suggest that all racist issues have been manufactured by the PTB to keep the people fighting amongst themselves and oblivious to what is going on at the top of the pyramid.

Jack is not being racist. He's like many of us who have realised that we need to start talking about these issues if we are going to bring down this pyramid of power.

David Icke speaks about this subject well. He is certainly not the only one who is talking about a Zionist conspiracy. This video may help to explain what is the power over and above the neo-cons.



I hear what you are saying Jenci, but I've been so far down the rabbit hole I think you could classify me as subterranean. :painkiller:
But instead of any Israeli conspiracy, what I see is a predominantly "Nazi" esque regime in place in the form of the neo-cons.

I think Alex Jones did a pretty good job of making these connections in his Bohemmian Grove Documentary. And what happened with project paperclip in bringing the Nazi intelligence officers and scientists to the United States so that Russia wouldn't get them after world war II is common knowledge.

I for one don't look at the neo-cons as republicans per se, it seems many folks have successfully in my opinion laid the majority of the evil that has gone in the government for the last thirty years or so at their feet(the neo-cons).
Cathy O'Brien a long time victim of the MKULTRA CIA mind control experiments has first hand testimonial in withnessing evil perpetuated by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfield and George Bush senior.

Her testimonials are a must in my opinion to try and get the whole picture. Cathy O'Brien first hand testimonial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g4zB1j_AkBg)
Benjamin Fullford lays most of the evil done in the world at the feet of the neo-cons in his various interviews.

Conner O'Ryan a whistle blower sentry for Area 51 claims Dick Cheney used to come and visit the place and bring visitors to see the dead greys kept there.
In an interview with Dr. Richard Boylan, Colonial Steve Wilson stated that there were 33 levels of top secret. And Colonial Steve Wilson who is the highest level whistle blower I have ever heard of stated that Dick Cheney is at the top of the chain of command as far as the secret government is concerned.
Q33- Maji = Millitary agency for joint intelligence.
Q32- MJ-12 = 36 Members as of 1994.
Q31- Aerospace Technology and Dollars.
Q30- 1010 security squadron. This is given to the Wackenhut Corporations 4 highest officers.
I have a thread on this here. S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Volume-One-Wendelle-Stevens-and-Bob-Dean)
Also, and I don't mean to ramble, but it is pretty conclusive that 9-11 was an inside job, and we all know who was in office at the time it occured. Cheney telling Norad to stand down so they wouldn't shoot the hijacked planes out of the sky. Building seven getting pulled. Martin P Bush being in charge of security for the 9/11 complex, and yes, this is George Bush's brother.

Unified Serenity
9th January 2012, 04:03
I find the left / right argument circular and of little benefit. Those who want to stand and righteously point the finger of blame soley at the neo-cons do not grasp that the paths are equally approved of by the top of the pyramid. If you choose the left side you are correct in their eyes and have chosen well and likewise if you choose the right hand path you are correct and have chosen well. Why? Because they use both. They just don't let those on the left or right know how compartmentalized they are and how important their activities are to carrying out the purposes of the NWO elite. Pay them both off, support both agendas because in doing so you steer them where you ultimately want them to be, your happy ignorant prisoners.

So, stand around pompously pointing fingers and feeling right and see how much changes. The game is still going, the cliff is still ahead 500 paces and we grow nearer the edge daily. Only by ceasing to fall for their tricks, by seeing how we are manipulated, by seeing the con will we ever stop our ascension up and over that cliff.

If not, well it won't really matter because in the end each prisoner will be right in their own mind and believe they are part of the great new society that has evolved and ascended to the 5th dimension when in fact they are nothing more than deluded prisoner servants of their new gods. I for one will not be a part of that game. It's all become very plain to me.

modwiz
9th January 2012, 04:37
I don't buy it, I'm sorry Jack, but your anti Jewish rhetoric kind of borders on racism. As such, I kind of just tune you out on this stuff.
I have seen far too much data that puts this plainly at the feet of the neo-cons. And your little blurb of a picuture kind of echoes a gleefull sentiment at laying this at the feet of some Zionist conspiracy.
I have seen you correct Darla for using the word ascension because you broke it down as having the word zion in it, and we can't have any association with this can we.
It's one thing to lay conspiracies at the feet of specific perpetraters, it's quite another to try and lay them at the feet of an entire culture.

Zionism as a culture? Only if we can talk of nasty things grown in petri dishes. Zionism is a malignant tumor that has attached itself to Judaism. They will be much healthier once they rid themselves of this life threatening growth. The whole world, the vast sea of Gentiles, sees Zionism and its agenda. Only a misguided group of Christians and kool-aid drinking Jews do not see Zionism for the hostile life form that it is.

DNA
9th January 2012, 04:44
I find the left / right argument circular and of little benefit. Those who want to stand and righteously point the finger of blame soley at the neo-cons do not grasp that the paths are equally approved of by the top of the pyramid. If you choose the left side you are correct in their eyes and have chosen well and likewise if you choose the right hand path you are correct and have chosen well. Why? Because they use both. They just don't let those on the left or right know how compartmentalized they are and how important their activities are to carrying out the purposes of the NWO elite. Pay them both off, support both agendas because in doing so you steer them where you ultimately want them to be, your happy ignorant prisoners.

So, stand around pompously pointing fingers and feeling right and see how much changes. The game is still going, the cliff is still ahead 500 paces and we grow nearer the edge daily. Only by ceasing to fall for their tricks, by seeing how we are manipulated, by seeing the con will we ever stop our ascension up and over that cliff.

If not, well it won't really matter because in the end each prisoner will be right in their own mind and believe they are part of the great new society that has evolved and ascended to the 5th dimension when in fact they are nothing more than deluded prisoner servants of their new gods. I for one will not be a part of that game. It's all become very plain to me.


But we have to have conversations. We have to be able to point at something tangible and build from there.
Removing culpability from those we are able to build a frame work of understanding around just because there are those above them more culpable and yet unknown isn't going to help.
And regardless of the information you have concerning who you think is at the top, I'm sure your assuredness waivers in these matters on a day to day basis in relation to some new piece of data you recieve.
And how do you recieve that data?
You look at those who are tangibely perpetrating events and leave hints as to what is going on above them.

If you are talking about conservatives versus liberals because I used the word Neo-Cons, then you misunderstood me.
I don't think Neo-Cons are true republicans as I stated in my initial post.
For instance, Bill Clinton did about as much harm to the world or more than the actual Bush administration with his repelling of the Glass-Steagall act of 1933.
I see Clinton very much as a Neo-Con.

You have an oppurtunity to share your knowledge US, and instead you chastize those who are still on the path searching.
This could be taken and construed as condescending.
You have an oppurtunity to share your data, and point to who you claim is at the top, instead you infer that those who are still searching are some how impaired for not already knowing.

I will say this though, I do not believe there is some Zionist conspiracy related to the banking system telling the world what to do.
Sure, the banking system is telling the world what to do, but how does this relate in any way what so ever to Zionism?
This is greed pure and simple, and I just do not see how it can be construed as being related to Jewish anscestry/religion/philosophy.

DNA
9th January 2012, 04:53
Only a misguided group of Christians and kool-aid drinking Jews do not see Zionism for the hostile life form that it is.

Well your going to need to create a new group, becuase I'm not a Christian, nor am I Jewish.
I could say that only a group of misguided horse fecal matter dwellers would believe in the Zionist conspiracy though.
Just my take. :)

Again, just because there is a banking power exerting vast influence over the globe, does in no way prove it is intellectually driven by a cabal of Jewish folks.
This banking power has been fuctioning with the same family members since world war II. Are you going to try and tell me that those same banking industrialists who funded gas chambers and concentration camps in Nazi Germany are some how Zionist conspiraters?

modwiz
9th January 2012, 05:00
Only a misguided group of Christians and kool-aid drinking Jews do not see Zionism for the hostile life form that it is.

Well your going to need to create a new group, becuase I'm not a Christian, nor am I Jewish.
I could say that only a group of misguided horse fecal matter dwellers would believe in the Zionist conspiracy though.
Just my take. :)

Again, just because there is a banking power exerting vast influence over the globe, does in no way prove it is intellectually driven by a cabal of Jewish folks.
This banking power has been fuctioning with the same family members since world war II. Are you going to try and tell me that those same banking industrialists who funded gas chambers and concentration camps in Nazi Germany are some how Zionist conspiraters?

Yes, all indications and unhysterical research would seem to indicate that this is the case. At the very least there was knowledge and collusion. Some plausible denialbilty might have been put into 'arrangements' in case history ever went for a second look. Right now in Europe, looking at that history and questioning it is a felony. You don't think that is a red flag screaming "Don't look here?"

BTW. Anybody can drink the kool-aid. The zionists offer all you can drink free. They even have volunteers and paid outlets. Wikipedia is just one.

Let me end this conversation here. It is one that I should not have started. World views are emotional critters and logic or facts are useless against such psychological settings.

Who knows I may have bad facts, but I do my best not to just accept any story.

Jenci
9th January 2012, 10:33
I hear what you are saying Jenci, but I've been so far down the rabbit hole I think you could classify me as subterranean. :painkiller:
But instead of any Israeli conspiracy, what I see is a predominantly "Nazi" esque regime in place in the form of the neo-cons.

I think Alex Jones did a pretty good job of making these connections in his Bohemmian Grove Documentary. And what happened with project paperclip in bringing the Nazi intelligence officers and scientists to the United States so that Russia wouldn't get them after world war II is common knowledge.

I for one don't look at the neo-cons as republicans per se, it seems many folks have successfully in my opinion laid the majority of the evil that has gone in the government for the last thirty years or so at their feet(the neo-cons).
Cathy O'Brien a long time victim of the MKULTRA CIA mind control experiments has first hand testimonial in withnessing evil perpetuated by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfield and George Bush senior.

Her testimonials are a must in my opinion to try and get the whole picture. Cathy O'Brien first hand testimonial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g4zB1j_AkBg)
Benjamin Fullford lays most of the evil done in the world at the feet of the neo-cons in his various interviews.

Conner O'Ryan a whistle blower sentry for Area 51 claims Dick Cheney used to come and visit the place and bring visitors to see the dead greys kept there.
In an interview with Dr. Richard Boylan, Colonial Steve Wilson stated that there were 33 levels of top secret. And Colonial Steve Wilson who is the highest level whistle blower I have ever heard of stated that Dick Cheney is at the top of the chain of command as far as the secret government is concerned.
Q33- Maji = Millitary agency for joint intelligence.
Q32- MJ-12 = 36 Members as of 1994.
Q31- Aerospace Technology and Dollars.
Q30- 1010 security squadron. This is given to the Wackenhut Corporations 4 highest officers.
I have a thread on this here. S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Volume-One-Wendelle-Stevens-and-Bob-Dean)
Also, and I don't mean to ramble, but it is pretty conclusive that 9-11 was an inside job, and we all know who was in office at the time it occured. Cheney telling Norad to stand down so they wouldn't shoot the hijacked planes out of the sky. Building seven getting pulled. Martin P Bush being in charge of security for the 9/11 complex, and yes, this is George Bush's brother.

Hi DNA,

Just to clarify, I don't think this is an Israeli conspiracy either.

I agree about all the testimonies and MK Ultra, Paperclip and the likes of Cheney, Bush & Snr and Rumsfield and their part they have placed in all this. But I am not convinced that they are at the top of the pyramid.

What do you think of the British? ...see Jack's post #5.

I'm inclined to agree with Jack but "British" is not quite it. Those pulling all the strings are beyond the nationalities and I think the the Americans, British and Israelis, all of us really, are just the victims in this.

Jeanette

Jenci
9th January 2012, 10:45
This banking power has been fuctioning with the same family members since world war II. Are you going to try and tell me that those same banking industrialists who funded gas chambers and concentration camps in Nazi Germany are some how Zionist conspiraters?

I would say yes but zionism is the smokescreen that they hide behind. They've used it to condition within us a "race" reaction to keep us all looking and fighting amongst ourselves rather than looking up at them, while they always remain hidden from view.

They do the same with the left and right of politics.

Jeanette

DNA
9th January 2012, 10:50
Hi DNA,

Just to clarify, I don't think this is an Israeli conspiracy either.

I agree about all the testimonies and MK Ultra, Paperclip and the likes of Cheney, Bush & Snr and Rumsfield and their part they have placed in all this. But I am not convinced that they are at the top of the pyramid.

What do you think of the British? ...see Jack's post #5.

I'm inclined to agree with Jack but "British" is not quite it. Those pulling all the strings are beyond the nationalities and I think the the Americans, British and Israelis, all of us really, are just the victims in this.

Jeanette










By British do you mean the royal family?
It is possible. I certainly don't buy the reptilian thing, but I do think there seems to be an ancient aspect to the illuminati if indeed there is this higher level to the pyramid as you think.

I personally think there is a very good chance an ancient lineage of sorts exists. Charles Fort thought there were immisaries in the highest places of Government and Science in place as agents of those he claimed piloted the UFOs that were seen quite often. He stated this in his book "the damned" (http://www.sacred-texts.com/fort/index.htm) and this book is from 1919. He thought it was a complete sham that there was no mention of the UFOs being seen at the time, or the relics of giants he discussed in his book.
And the guy was saying this in 1919.

There is also correlating data to be panned from the likes of Robert Morningsky's Terra Papers (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html#Papers)and Anthony Sanchez's interview with Col X (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?22933-DULCE-INTERVIEW-Anthony-Sanchez-interviews-Colonel-X&highlight=).
The testimonials here all pointing strongly to the Annunaki, but instead of the Annunaki coming from Nibiru, it is stated in both of these testimonials that they(the annunaki) indeed came from Sirius.
And although such knowledge is secondary when coming to terms with the fact that ancient astronaut grand daddy's and grand mama's are responsible for our existance, it is still worth marinating in the correlation stew that is always looking for more information to burn in the slow cooking process of formulating opinions.

So yea, if you mean some kind of Sirian ancestry still thriving in the guise of royalty, sure, but I don't think the highest levels of these folks often see the light of the day, or the flash bulb of a papperazi camera.

Of the stuff I mentioned(hyperlinked), if you are not familiar with any of it, I would highly recomend the interview with Anthony Sanchez. It get's right to the point. It states that the military found a grey base in full operation back in the 1930s while looking at potential locations to secretly work on the A-Bomb. And during this search they stumbled across a hidden underground base of greys.
These greys had mettalic tablets if you will that gave a alternative version of history that mirrored Sitchin's, but is much more complete.

Jenci
9th January 2012, 13:21
By British do you mean the royal family?
It is possible. I certainly don't buy the reptilian thing, but I do think there seems to be an ancient aspect to the illuminati if indeed there is this higher level to the pyramid as you think.

I personally think there is a very good chance an ancient lineage of sorts exists. Charles Fort thought there were immisaries in the highest places of Government and Science in place as agents of those he claimed piloted the UFOs that were seen quite often. He stated this in his book "the damned" (http://www.sacred-texts.com/fort/index.htm) and this book is from 1919. He thought it was a complete sham that there was no mention of the UFOs being seen at the time, or the relics of giants he discussed in his book.
And the guy was saying this in 1919.

There is also correlating data to be panned from the likes of Robert Morningsky's Terra Papers (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html#Papers)and Anthony Sanchez's interview with Col X (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?22933-DULCE-INTERVIEW-Anthony-Sanchez-interviews-Colonel-X&highlight=).
The testimonials here all pointing strongly to the Annunaki, but instead of the Annunaki coming from Nibiru, it is stated in both of these testimonials that they(the annunaki) indeed came from Sirius.
And although such knowledge is secondary when coming to terms with the fact that ancient astronaut grand daddy's and grand mama's are responsible for our existance, it is still worth marinating in the correlation stew that is always looking for more information to burn in the slow cooking process of formulating opinions.

So yea, if you mean some kind of Sirian ancestry still thriving in the guise of royalty, sure, but I don't think the highest levels of these folks often see the light of the day, or the flash bulb of a papperazi camera.

Of the stuff I mentioned(hyperlinked), if you are not familiar with any of it, I would highly recomend the interview with Anthony Sanchez. It get's right to the point. It states that the military found a grey base in full operation back in the 1930s while looking at potential locations to secretly work on the A-Bomb. And during this search they stumbled across a hidden underground base of greys.
These greys had mettalic tablets if you will that gave a alternative version of history that mirrored Sitchin's, but is much more complete.


Hi DNA

I'm not sure about the royal family but one thing I know for sure is that the image they present to us, is not really what they are about.

Thanks for the links.
I was wondering if you have done any research on the Rothschilds?....and their links to the City of London (banking) and the British (democratically elected, lol)
Government?

Jeanette