The ILLUMINATI WILL BE OVER - Alex Collier 2011

[Eric J (Viking)]

The ILLUMINATI WILL BE OVER Alex collier 2011

In this new interview Alex Collier talks about what he thinks is the last days of illuminati, and how we can work it to help in this process.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfasayRSB0k


viking

[modwiz]

I look forward to listening to it. When I find two hours of down time.

[Elixer]

This interview was conducted on 10-27-2011. Actually the thread title is slightly misleading, since Collier is quite adament that it is not over by a long shot, no time to sit back and open a six-pack and that in fact some sort of intervention is required at this point because it's obvious to him that we're not going to get out of this oppressive system on our own.

Most of us will probably have already heard this interview. It's a good one, though for me, more because of Robert Stanley's input than Alex', I'm sorry to say.
Alex sounds tired, he probably is.

-Alex;)

[jcocks]

Well, considering he's been living in a caravan for a while now, he would be tired.

Anyhow, I've got to say I love the guy, and his latest interview is well worth the listen... Out of all the "contactees" out there, his is the message that most resonates with me. The fact that he has never asked for money for his "message" lends all the more credence to his message...

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Oh, and BTW : Most of this "interview" is actually Alex answering listeners' questions. A lot of good, new info in there anyway...

[DreamsInDigital]

There's a second one on Robert Stanley's page that was done more recently than October. Updating his situation etc. He did sound very tired in this interview, but it changed during the second one. All his supporters etc that contacted him and have been contacting him recently really has made a HUGE difference in turning things around here on Terra for him. He had really lost faith in humanity for a while, but it's turned around for him.

His message has been all along about getting up and doing your part to make things change, self respect, self responsibility, being our own saviors etc. A very positive and important message.

[Hervé]

There's a second one on Robert Stanley's page...

Link? Please...

[Calz]

There's a second one on Robert Stanley's page...

Link? Please...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EfasayRSB0k

[DreamsInDigital]

There's a second one on Robert Stanley's page...

Link? Please...
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2011/12/09/the-unicus-radio-hour



There's a second one on Robert Stanley's page...

Link? Please...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EfasayRSB0k
That's the one that was posted in the original post at the top. I was referring to the second one that was done on December 9th. :)

[Hervé]

Calz, thanks for the the link!

D I D, indeed I was looking for the page and that second one. :) Thanks.

[DreamsInDigital]

yeah, the second one doesn't really reveal a LOT more information that isn't already out there. But, it does give a very positive and uplifting message in that he expresses his absolute gratitude for all the donations, messages, emails etc. And, also that he will be personally responding to every letter and email, just to please give him time. And a little more interaction between Alex and Tolec. Btw, for those keeping "score". The members from The Andromeda Council that Tolec is in contact with are different from the Zenetae (who are also Members of The Andromeda Council) that Alex Collier is in contact with. It's interesting to listen to the two (Alex and Tolec) interacting with eachother.

[Spirithorse]

That should be the one...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O35vvhg3bkU

[Black Panther]

I look forward to listening to it. When I find two hours of down time.

It's well worth listening those two hours. Alex Collier is a very familiar name for me, but never listened
to him. Real fun to listen to those guys on the radio. I understand it ain't easy for him and that's of course
because he is on the right path. I think it's important to support the whistleblowers in one way or the other.

[DreamsInDigital]

@ BP,
You're so right, those of us that are on the right path do have a very difficult time of it.

For anyone that wants to "catch up" on his lectures, interviews or read his book: Defending Sacred Ground ~ The Andromedan Compendium.
Just go here: Alex Collier and The Andromedan Connection (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_andromedacom.htm) It's got some non-Alex Collier articles also but that are centered around The Andromedans. It doesn't have *every* interview ever done, I've found a few on the internet that aren't on the site, and few videos also on youtube that aren't on the site. But it's got a pretty extensive collection.

[Unified Serenity]

It's a very interesting radio program. I'd like to hear more from Alex, and I am glad the floodgates have opened up for him. I hope he can get his books out, and continue to share his throughts.

[DreamsInDigital]

The link in my last post has many videos links also for more of his stuff on youtube. And, also if you just search youtube for "Alex Collier" there are many of his past lectures etc. Available. And, his book etc.

This is partially why I am working on my project for Alex, to get a much more "organised" well oiled machine and help move things along.

[Unified Serenity]

I've listened to a lot of collier and others. I'd like to see some actual proof, but so wouldn't everyone. I like what Collier says, he sounds very genuine, but I don't see the world changing for the better. I see people chasing one positive thinker after another while we move ever closer to destruction and controlled lives. So much feels like manipulation and pacifying to wait for the big "change" and I believe we are the change, but we have to stop playing the game. I'm just frustrated, and know that whether I am here in this body or I leave, I do NOT want to come back to this sort of life and system again. I'm to the point that I just want to be left alone.

[DreamsInDigital]

I think though that is why I like Alex Collier so much, he isn't just all "Fluffy Clouds, Rainbows and Kittens." So I don't think it's absolutely right or fair to lump him in with the rest of those "positive thinkers" IMO. More than anything (and there are many (respected Exopolitical officials) out there that vouch for his validity, credibility etc that is more than enough "evidence" far as I'm concerned) for me, it's about his message. About the importance of us realizing just how powerful as individuals and united even more so as we are. About self respect, self responsibility and self determination. Unlike the other "positive thinkers" (to use your term here) he is not advocating "sit and wait for the aliens to come save us" he is saying "get off your asses and save yourselves." He's telling those who are willing to listen that we have to be our own saviors and be the force behind that change. That message to me right there is enough reason alone to support him.

I have had contact experiences myself, but I have my reasons also for not "going public" with them. But, I wanted to add one more thing. Moraney is very much real.

Here's some advice guys, you really want things to change. Here is what you can do individually to help: The minute we turn our focus away from them (the Cabal, Dark Forces) and they can’t feed off our fear, it will collapse in a heartbeat. Because where focus goes, energy flows.

As long as they keep you looking at it, they are using the energy of your soul, of your spirit, to feed this monstrosity. It’s time to just ignore them.

[Unified Serenity]

I hear what you are saying Dreams, but two, five, ten or twenty people all agreeing with one another is not proof of anything. Proof is verifiable. Please point me into a verifiable proof scenario and I will be very happy to look at it. People saying they have met the same aliens is not proof. If one is an actual contactee who med Lord Commander Bruce of Andromeda with purple hair, and whatever else description meets someone who they don't know who reveals this encounter they had with apparently this being then it's proof to the person who encountered Bruce to begin with that they probably met the same guy, but having various "truthers" or contactees saying it is ot proof, otherwise why do so many people doubt the biblical New Testement accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John of the man names Yeshua? I mean we have a whole story of this guys life, and yet there are millions who strongly disbelieve the "story" / account of Yeshua of Nazareth and they have all kinds of books explaining why they disbelieve it.

This is part of my reasons for posting the essays I have posted. Do not be so quick to believe what others say because it sounds good. I have NOTHING against AC, BD or the others I enjoy listening to. I just do not see proof of anything. I have had my own encounters with lots of entities, and I've had a lot of people not believe me because they have not encounted what I have encountered. Heck, I grew up with a very friendly Ghost named Jonathan, and no matter what true accounts I could share with a someone who did not believe in ghosts, until they experienced it or saw some proof they were NOT going to believe. I am just weary of the next greatest fad for a worldwide religion that is based on another shift in spirituality of ascension which really is nothing more than happened two thousand years ago when we were moved from the pantheon of Gods to a monotheistic God and today we have been moved slowly into "we are gods".

My frustration is not with you or anyone here in general or specific. It is with a psychology of chasing archetypes and wondering how much is distraction and how much is real.

[DreamsInDigital]

I really don't know HOW to answer you, maybe there are not words or something that is in the english language that will fit. Or maybe it's because I don't lump or hold Alex Collier in the same regard that you do (nor does it seem many others do either). So there for I don't fully understand how to answer you. To me He specifically is one of the most unique of all the contactees out there, because he's not part of the whole Love and Light movement and never has been. And, I have a built in "Bull crap" detector, actually we all do..just most don't know it exist or how to use it. I don't ever have to question anything because I just automatically know. One thing, I can tell you is that NO ONE has absolutely all / 100% of the answers or pieces of the puzzle.

There's enough hard evidence out there, documents, prophecies, visions, all kinds of things, all kinds of different levels. Including Scientific evidence. That says what ever is coming is definitely a "Change" and it's not going to be the end of the world. There are many that say "positive" change and many that ( like Alex Collier for example) that are saying something more "middle of the road." Beyond that, and knowing for a fact that the world is not going to end. Even I don't know what the heck is coming, but we sure aren't going to continue in the same way it's been the past almost 6,000 years. There is definitely going to be a huge change.

I know what is true and what is real for me and where I'm going and what I need to do to get there, and how I'm going to do it. I think really you and many others still are in the point of finding your path and figuring it out. But, when you do, like others. It's a whole life changer, a real game changer to say the least. It's very profound and can be shattering to experience when your perspective and awareness goes from that of self to that of the whole universe.

[Unified Serenity]

I really don't know HOW to answer you, maybe there are not words or something that is in the english language that will fit. Or maybe it's because I don't lump or hold Alex Collier in the same regard that you do (nor does it seem many others do either).

I could say the same thing about Jesus Christ and the vast majority as in millions upon millions who believe in him and the promise of salvation and the prophecies as laid out in the books of the bible. Just because a lot of people agree with you does not prove anything, trust me just look at how many still argue for proof offered by millions who claim they have visions, contact with angels, have seen loved ones on the other side in heaven with Jesus in near death experiences, have met Jesus in heaven, and have historical archeological proof to back up the bible. Quite frankly I did not lump Alex into any catagory. I said, I liked him, but there is no proof to what he says. It's a nice idea, it's a nice story, but it is not proven for me just because people agree with him.



So there for I don't fully understand how to answer you. To me He specifically is one of the most unique of all the contactees out there, because he's not part of the whole Love and Light movement and never has been. And, I have a built in "Bull crap" detector, actually we all do..just most don't know it exist or how to use it. I don't ever have to question anything because I just automatically know. One thing, I can tell you is that NO ONE has absolutely all / 100% of the answers or pieces of the puzzle.

I can tell you seem to completely accept his story and ideas, that's great. I have a built in BS detector too, and I wonder if you have ever changed your mind given where you were at one point to where you are today. I know I have grown, and what once fit into my beliefs and thoughts while it was useful, I have set aside because it was not enough. Your statement alludes to the idea that anyone who does not buy into the AC story line doesn't have a very good bs detector which seems condescending. I've been on this road a very long time, and have seen a lot of people proven wrong after all was said and done.


There's enough hard evidence out there, documents, prophecies, visions, all kinds of things, all kinds of different levels. Including Scientific evidence.

See my above paragraph about millions having just as much "hard evidence etc." about why they are Christians. They are satisfied as well and believe their bs detectors are in high functioning order as well.


That says what ever is coming is definitely a "Change" and it's not going to be the end of the world. There are many that say "positive" change and many that ( like Alex Collier for example) that are saying something more "middle of the road." Beyond that, and knowing for a fact that the world is not going to end. Even I don't know what the heck is coming, but we sure aren't going to continue in the same way it's been the past almost 6,000 years. There is definitely going to be a huge change.

Do you realize how many major spiritual changes we have had over the last 6000 years? Let's just go back 2000 years to changing from many polytheistic cultures to mainly monotheistic dominated cultures today. Then, let's go back say just 600 years ago when there was another major change from just having Catholicism running most of the known Christian world to having a Protestant movement that gave independence to some degree in people following Christ. There are currently two very involved threads dealing with the archetypes we have ingrained within ourselves and how we are maneuvered to accept a new change the power controllers behind the scenes use our preconditioned needs and known responses to bring about societal change. Are you really so certain you are not being programmed to accept a New Age that really is just more programming in which you will continue to follow a system that really is not the truth?

I step back carefully and am seeing some very strange and ominous signs that many in our alternative movement are not showing great signs of enlightenment, but are following the personality of guru, teacher, enlightened one programming. We have been given a world now that one would be a fool to not want change. Remember, Order out of Chaos and problem, crisis, solution of the Hegalian dialectic. Things are not so simple as our DNA is changing and that's why we want change. If I have a new building, and I want some people to move into it for whatever reason and they want to stay in this other building I control and want to tear down, but they refuse to leave, I might stop making it comfortable to live there, let rats infest it, let it fall into disrepair, encourage criminal activity and depravity so that given enough time, the people will not only want to move, but they will demand that I provide the change they think they desire, but which I have carefully programmed them to think they want. This is not really that complicated folks. I fully believe we have been set up to want these changes and it's getting so bad many would rather die than continue in this world. Many won't even have children because they do not want to bring them into the world as it is today!



I know what is true and what is real for me and where I'm going and what I need to do to get there, and how I'm going to do it.[

I am glad you have all the answers you need. I used to think I did too, but as a truth seeker, I told myself to never have sacred cows, to always keep my eyes open, and to listen and watch closely, because as I have gotten older and gained experience, I realize how little I truly know, and that I might just not have things all sown up so nicely and neatly, and guess what? I have grown and come to accept more things than I once did, but that just tells me that there is more to know and that there are more questions to ask and more answers to find.


I think really you and many others still are in the point of finding your path and figuring it out. But, when you do, like others. It's a whole life changer, a real game changer to say the least. It's very profound and can be shattering to experience when your perspective and awareness goes from that of self to that of the whole universe.

I don't know if you intend that to sound so condescending so I will assume you did not, but it does sound like, "If you could just view things from my lofty perch and one day you will, then you will understand so much more like me". As for finding my path, I have a very comfortable path that I do not feel is unstable. All is energy and therefore all is one. All is consciousness and therefore we ultimately all know when we leave this dimension so much more than we can know now. We get glimpses of things. I have spent much time in astral, I have a very personal relationship with the Divine and for me I know that I am ultimately one with the Divine and I will never die. You cannot destroy energy, it can only be changed. I had a transformative experience in 1995 on Divine union and knowing. I go there often and I've experienced with other people in this 3d world, in astral, and it is a very sacred knowing. That does not give me the answers to these other questions. I do not expect you to provide these answers either. Together, I do believe we can continue to explore and respect that each one of us has pieces to the puzzle of what is coming. I simply am cautious of the whole alien propaganda and see zero proof of anything to do with what contactees share. Like I said, I like some of their stories which may or may not be true. I have heard many times about dates, events and they do not come to pass. I personally do not believe anyone is going to save our bacon in the least. We will either learn to stand on our own and throw the elite bums out on their asses, end the birthright of kings, and get rid of this whole monetary system of putting worth and ownership on stuff. That takes spiritual evolution and most of us are a long long way from that place. There are always some more equal than others.