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Midnight Rambler
24th December 2011, 18:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJjNthJxQ0Y
This fireball was seen in certain parts of the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France and Germany. According to Nasa it is a meteorite.

The video was made in Bad Kissingen, Germany.

http://www.omroepbrabant.nl/Graphics/Image.aspx?object=News&type=large&image=Volgens_NASA_zou_het_een_meteoriet_zijn_die_ door_de_dampkring_ging_(ANP)_994964.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GG4wLRECsI&feature=youtu.be
Source photo (http://www.omroepbrabant.nl/?news/1670661003/Meerdere+Brabanders+zien+meteoriet+over+vliegen.as px)

Midnight Rambler
24th December 2011, 22:18
Some more witnesses to the flying object seen tonight.

This one is very spectacular!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4JRiHP1YVU&feature=youtube_gdata_player


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFvHL5-KYOw

And here another eyewitness in Germany (https://yfrog.com/7251452653z)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djiJiOWw9G0&feature=youtu.be

German news source (http://www.derwesten.de/panorama/komet-meteor-weltraumschrott-spekulationen-ueber-lichtphaenomen-am-himmel-id6191666.html)

Midnight Rambler
24th December 2011, 22:26
http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-297655-galleryV9-pgch.jpg

Strange AND beautiful picture of tonight's meteor or whatever it was.

Source (http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/bild-805731-297655.html)
http://cdn.radionetherlands.nl/data/files/imagecache/must_carry/images/lead/meteorietweb_0.jpg
Source (http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/meteor-lights-dutch-skies)

Midnight Rambler
24th December 2011, 22:54
This video is inconsistent with the previous pictures and photographs. This one was taken in Amsterdam.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF0e9r6AHzw


When i was filming with my jvc camera i see some spectacilair Strange bright light near Amsterdam Holland the Netherlands.

Midnight Rambler
25th December 2011, 08:43
"Piece of missile in atmosphere'
Groningen - Some of the rocket of the recent mission to the ISS entered the atmosphere Saturday evening and presumably evaporated. According to astronomer Theo Jurriëns of the University of Groningen (RuG).

People from all over Europe reported a large fireball in the sky. The fireball was seen for at least one minute.

According to some reports the fireball is a meteorite. But according to Jurriëns this is simply not possible. ''A meteor would be out of sight much quicker''.

Soyuz rocket
He calls it more likely that it is a piece of the Soyuz rocket that Andre Kuipers (Dutch Cosmonaut) used to travel to the ISS (International Space Station).
It might have been the last stage of the launch of the rocket. This could have entered the atmosphere around midnight.

To our knowledge there is no debris damage. The National Police reports to have had twenty calls about the "fireball". The ESA (European Space Agency) was not available for comment Saturday.

Source (http://www.nu.nl/wetenschap/2701623/stuk-van-raket-kuipers-in-dampkring.html)

So.. the ESA is not available for comment and Nasa is very quick to claim the fireball is a meteorite, which for the trained eye seems to be not correct. If this is a piece of space debris and the agencies should have nothing to hide, why is it that the ESA says "no comment". Ugh... Never a Straight Answer. :confused:

Midnight Rambler
25th December 2011, 13:11
Christmas Eve lights in sky probably meteor (http://www.thelocal.de/national/20111225-39731.html)


Christmas Eve was topped off for many in Germany by the sight of what was probably a meteor, but looked like a mysterious star – or even Santa and his sleigh.Callers to the Antenne Thüringen radio station described three glowing dots with a long tail which spread into several parts across the sky.

“It was great, very impressive,” said one caller. Another woman told the radio station, “We saw the light spectacle on the way home from church. Our daughter thought it looked like Santa’s sleigh with reindeer.”

Some said it looked like a red glowing star with a smoking tail, while others spoke of an intense white glowing tail.

Andreas Schütz, spokesman for the German Aerospace Centre (DLR) said the unidentified flying object was unlikely to have been Santa, or aliens or an accident – but was most likely to have been a meteorite, or even a piece of space junk falling to earth.

“It must have been a very large piece to create such intensity and duration of light,” he said.

The phenomenon was seen at around 5.30 p.m.across Germany, from the Netherlands border to the south of the country.


Source (http://www.thelocal.de/national/20111225-39731.html)

Nothing to see here folks, move along. Yeah right! Just a handful of main stream media outlets are reporting this thing. Nobody knows what it really was and where it crashed. :censored:

Midnight Rambler
25th December 2011, 13:26
Apparently it probably was a piece of a Soyuz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn6JGUh5Guw&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn6JGUh5Guw&feature=youtu.be


Source (http://reentrynews.aero.org/2011078b.html)


Object Description:

Type: Soyuz-FG
Int'l Designation: 2011 078B
Launched: 21 DEC 2011 @ 13:16 UTC
Site: Baikonur Cosmodrome LC1
Mission: ISS Crew TMA-03M
Reentry Prediction:

Predicted Reentry Time: 24 DEC 2011 @ 17:41 UTC ± 90 minutes
Prediction Epoch: 24 DEC 2011 @ 11:46:04.398 UTC
Observed Reentry Time: 24 DEC 2011 @ 16:26 UTC
Prediction Ground Track:

http://reentrynews.aero.org/2011078b.jpg

Legend
Yellow Icon - location of object at predicted reentry time
Orange Line - area of visibility at the predicted reentry time for a ground observer
Blue Line - ground track uncertainty prior to predicted reentry time (ticks at 5-minute intervals)
Yellow Line - ground track uncertainty after predicted reentry time (ticks at 5-minute intervals)
White Line - day/night divider at predicted reentry time (Sun location shown by White Icon)
Pink Icon - vicinity of eyewitness sighting
Note: Possible reentry locations lie anywhere along the blue and yellow ground track.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OhaHEeWqYU0/StV6mPI1AbI/AAAAAAAAF9w/As5EtwJtuik/s1600/m1czwhea832t.jpg

Vitalux
25th December 2011, 15:17
What ever it was, one thing you can be sure of......that last thing we can expect from the television based media is truth.


Those that watch the skies are discovering that it is a busy place up there for alien traffic.
More and more folks that I chat with around my community talk of witnessing alien spacecraft activity during night skies.