ET Walk-ins / Wanderers / Volunteers

[illuminate]

Dear Avalonians,

Recently there was a thread with Dolores Cannon's interview
(Coast to Coast - October 22, 2009) which talked about VOLUNTEERS.
Found here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3612-Dolores-Cannon-quot-Volunteer-quot-Souls-amp-Lost-Knowledge)


She specified three different waves of volunteers -

1st Wave -- These people would be in their 40s and 50s now, finally adjusting
to life after going through turbulent early years of feeling they didn't belong here.

2nd Wave -- Presently in their 20s and 30s, these folk had an easier time, and have
been called "channels, generators, and antennas," and project positive energy. Many
have chosen not to have children, and they don't want to have to return to Earth after
this life.

3rd Wave -- The 'New Children'.

Does this resonate with any of you?

Dolores was really talking about ‘volunteers’ who had been INCARNATED in human bodies.
But there’s another class, which Dolores doesn’t mention, as far as I know -
referred to as WALK-INs.

A WALK-IN is like a volunteer who turns up late :p
They take over a human identity (i.e. a fully functioning person, with all their education,
experience, projects, contacts, family, car, job and dog!) after the original being in the body
has presumably set everything up for them. (A walk-in is always by agreement, I believe,
certainly at the higher-self or before-this-life level) They are just another kind of volunteer.

But this can be pretty weird for both the person themselves,
and for people who know them (sometimes).

I’m wondering how many of you feel you can identify with this personally?
I know I do.

This is hard to believe, hard to accept, hard to talk about, and incredibly important.

Is there anyone out there who would like to share their experiences?
I may also share mine...

:love:

[Arpheus]

I identify with it to a certain extent tho being that i am 38 years old today,but as far as i can recall of my own childhood ,i never felt comfortable or liked the idea of being told how to think what to believe and what to do since the pre-school days,there was just this uneasy feeling something isnt right about this whole picture type type of thing running through my mind,and i find it pretty amazing that at such early age i was around 7 8 or so when i was feeling like that and wasn't a funny thing because it always made me feel like i was the weird kid heh,nowadays i look back and laugh at it realizing i was the normal ones and the other ones were already going into sheep mode right of the bat.

[Anchor]

I am from the first wave (as a Wanderer). I worked it out after a while of reading different things and then the lightbulb went on. Once I had started meditating more regularly I had experiences that set this, for me, beyond doubt.

I quite like being human though despite all the ups and downs.

John..

[Decibellistics]

If things Dolores Cannon are right and take a description of an Indigo kid light then yes I resonate completely

Meditation based on converting negative to positive, though a feeling of utter disillusionment with mankind, occasional moments of telepathy though they are recognized most of the time by both parties.
The predator makes you feel like your bat **** crazy. Though the world is perceived directly through energy so you know it's real because you can feel it and sometimes see it. I knew my nephew was here before I got the phone call due to this.....he said hey, twas amazing. It's not really a turn on turn off switch of ability.....**** just kinda happens. Though the empath stuff is a constant on it seems........ Maybe no different then every other human's capabilities to be honest....some just don't pay attention or brush it off as coincidence. Don't want another piece of me on this planet after I die for many reasons.....felt this way for a long time. There's a lot of crazy intense experiences throughout my lifetime that were more of an observational moment rather than a metaphysical moment but yea....


I'd have to agree completely.

[Goldenserenity]

Dear Avalonians,

Recently there was a thread with Dolores Cannon's interview
(Coast to Coast - October 22, 2009) which talked about VOLUNTEERS.
Found here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3612-Dolores-Cannon-quot-Volunteer-quot-Souls-amp-Lost-Knowledge)



Does this resonate with any of you?

Dolores was really talking about ‘volunteers’ who had been INCARNATED in human bodies.
But there’s another class, which Dolores doesn’t mention, as far as I know -
referred to as WALK-INs.

A WALK-IN is like a volunteer who turns up late :p
They take over a human identity (i.e. a fully functioning person, with all their education,
experience, projects, contacts, family, car, job and dog!) after the original being in the body
has presumably set everything up for them. (A walk-in is always by agreement, I believe,
certainly at the higher-self or before-this-life level) They are just another kind of volunteer.
I’m wondering how many of you feel you can identify with this personally?
I know I do.

Is there anyone out there who would like to share their experiences?
I may also share mine... :love:


When I was 4 or 5 years old, I began to feel like I didn't belong in the family I was in. Though I was born into the family, they did not feel like my family, and that confused me! I always felt home sick, but didn't know where home was other than being with the people I was currently with. I was thought of as a "backward child" whatever that may be as that is what the school termed me. I was quiet and shy and never spoke unless spoken to.
I married at a very young age and had my first baby at 18. (Had 3 children total)
Then, one day I was driving along when all of a sudden the car spun completely around while I was driving it. I was alone and on an empty road. Why the car spun, I haven't a clue, but it did and I seemed very confused and disoriented for a short time after wards. Once I remembered where I was at and how to get to where I was going, I proceeded on. Shortly after that experience, there was a divorce from my husband, the children whisked away by him and all of life I knew changed! Several years later I decided to have another child, and when I started making plans for a child, I was whisked away to the hospital for a total hysterectomy. It was like I was not supposed to have any children I guess.

That's my story in a nut shell. I do feel I fit into the first wave.

[Decibellistics]

The problem is that most people strictly base these things as just being a form of human nature or it's just insane. Like the ability to feel and ultimately know what a person is feeling and ultimately what they are like. It's just an observational analysis formulated in the conscious mind.........it's not. It's a gut feeling.....

It leads to being aloof because the majority of people don't care when in reality every human has the ability to perceive the universe as such. All it requires is being aware, disciplined in one's actions, and to be willing to perceive and travel with a frame of mind the allows itself to travel and create freely. Being fluid in the mind to whatever possibility in regard to the realization that this is Three Dimensional Reality but also to the experiences that makes one look towards the sky with a stillness in the mind. It requires having a mastery of one's energy, which I haven't achieved...Because I can't control my dreams and I can't walk through walls! harharhar..........

[truthseekerdan]

Dolores got it right :) First Wave here.

[shiva777]

now take the next step...the "waves of indigos" have been discussed for over 50 years now by many,many people.why are almost ALL of those indigos not waking up(those same researchers predicted that indigos would rise up and take power in many ways 20 years ago)..THAT IS WHAT MATTERS...having millions of new-agedly numbed indigos doesn't make much difference,just lots of talk but little change...indigos are being medicated,manipulated,drugged by "2012 rapture events" and ass-ended master channelings promising change if you give your power to them",...and on it goes..to learn why go here,things most new-agers have no idea about

Ancient “False Ascension Science”



“False Sacred Science” teachings, and the inorganic environmental and biological consequences created through their use, are built upon convoluted, self-serving perversions of the organic Laws of Multidimensional Physics. Applications of these “twisted multidimensional science” teachings, historically engaged on Earth throughout different periods over many thousands of years, has taken a terrible toll on human evolution and on the state of our planetary environment. The “false Sacred Science” teachings emerged from periods in our ancient and pre-ancient past, during the historically ignored “ancient advanced Earth cultures” currently associated with “Atlantean and Lemurian mythology.” During these ancient times, many environmental and biological horrors were created through application of the “false Sacred Sciences”; the technologies that emerged from these teachings represented a perversion of the organic, living multidimensional technologies that were once available through applications of genuine “Sacred Science.” In ancient advanced cultures, the “false Sacred Science” teachings became known as the “Death Sciences,” because reduction of eternal-life potential to finite-life de-evolution was the eventual result of their applications — regardless of what temporary benefits of finite power such technologies supplied.

During the ancient Atlantean period, there was one particular body of “false Sacred Science” teachings that emerged among Earth cultures after one of the GA-MCEO CDT-Plates was stolen and placed in Illuminati hands. The CDT-Plate revealed many advanced teachings of organic “Sacred Science,” which Illuminati-Elder forces then twisted to form a particular “wormhole technology” through which they could seek fulfillment of their “Earth Templar Dominion” agenda. (Historical information on the stealing of the CDT-Plate and resultant ancient dramas is found in Voyagers Volume-2, 2nd Edition.) In ancient cultures, this particular body of advanced twisted “false Sacred Science” teachings that emerged, along with its resultant technologies, from perversion of the CDT-Plate teachings, was casually known as the “Bloom of Doom” technologies. This ancient name was adopted in reference to one of the primary inorganic “energy distortion geometries” used in this “Death Science,” the structure of which, in common respects, resembled a “blossom.” Other characteristic components of distorted mathematics and physics were also inherent to the “Bloom of Doom” Death Science. Components related to the “Bloom of Doom” technologies included a distorted mathematical growth formula for artificial finite life that in later days became known as the “golden mean rectangle” and “Fibonacci spiral & sequence,” both of which were distortions of the “Krystal Spiral & Sequence” organic eternal-life growth ratios illustrated in the GA-MCEO CDT-Plate teachings.

Another component of the ancient Atlantean “Bloom of Doom” technologies emerged through distortion of the CDT-Plate symbol called the “Kathara Grid.” Distortions of the CDT-Plate Kathara Grid symbol became known in the “Death Sciences” of the Atlantean period as the “Tree of Artificial Life,” because temporary, inorganic, finite-life artificial structures of matter, light and biology could be created through the “twisted mathematical secrets” implied by the symbolic structure of the Tree of Artificial Life distortion. The genuine Kathara Grid represents the organic core mathematical radiation-structures, or “lattices,” upon which eternal-life “living” morphogenetic field–matter templates are built. The mathematical relationships depicted within the organic Kathara Grid symbol represent the literal “core mathematical formula” of organic radiation-lattice structure, numbers of which lattices group together in very specific geometric-mathematical patterns — forming the structure of organic multidimensional radiation templates upon which “dark-matter,” quarks and subatomic particles organize into structured manifest atoms and forms.

The organic Kathara Grid “lattice” features 12 “Signets” or “power points” placed in very specific positions within a “cross-bar lattice” of very specific proportions; the proportions and relationships depicted in the genuine Kathara Grid symbol represent the mathematical formulae of organized-radiation-structure through which organic, living matter, light and biology are formed. The organic Kathara Grid is not a “theoretical invention,” but rather is a depiction of the core organizational structure upon which the organic, living, eternal-life Cosmos is, and has always been, formed. The organic Kathara Grid, and what it represents, exists as part of the organic Natural Laws of Physics that are indelibly inherent to the eternal, multidimensional Living Cosmos, and to the eternal “Unified Field of Energy and Consciousness” within which the Cosmos resides.

Distorted versions of the CDT-Plate original Kathara Grid symbol emerged through the “Bloom of Doom” teachings in Atlantis as the “Tree of Artificial Life” symbol, which originally depicted 11 “Signets” instead of the organic 12, and which had specific structural distortions within the shapes and proportions of the “cross-bar lattice.” The organic “living” Kathara Grid symbol represents the literal “core mathematical formula” of organic radiation-lattice structure for the eternal Living Cosmos. Likewise, the various versions of the “Tree of Artificial Life” symbol represent a distorted, contrived, inorganic “creation formula” through which unnatural multidimensional radiation template-structures can be artificially created — by abusing the Natural Laws of Multidimensional Physics — to harness and direct the organization of “dark-matter,” quarks and subatomic particles, in order to form inorganic, finite-life artificial structures of light-radiation, and atomic and biological form.

Further distortions of the “Tree of Artificial Life” symbol emerged later in history as “Tree of Life” symbols depicting 7, 8, 9 or 10 Signet points, with different “cross-bar lattice” distortions. These later Kathara Grid distortions represented renditions of the Atlantean “Tree of Artificial Life” creation formula as adapted by various groups of Illuminati who were in competition with the Illuminati “Bloom of Doom” creators. All such Kathara Grid distortions represent attempts at implementing unnatural creation formulae that deviate from the organic structures, and Natural Laws of Energy and Consciousness, inherent to the eternal Living Cosmos.

Two other components of the Atlantean “Bloom of Doom” teachings, and related “Death Sciences,” are hidden within two common symbol-forms referred to as the vesica piscis and the “star-tetrahedron.” The “vesica piscis” symbol is a set of 2 interlinked circles with the inner-most “outside edge” (circumference) of each circle touching the center-point of the other circle. Within the CDT-Plates, this symbol was originally called the “Bi-Veca Code,” and it, along with its 3-circle Tri-Veca Code symbol counterpart, referred to specific organic structures, processes, functions and interrelationships inherent to the organic multidimensional electromagnetic frequency spectrum, and especially to the organic creation mechanisms and natural dynamics inherent to light-radiation and the organic Living Light structures upon which the eternal Cosmos is built. The “star-tetrahedron” symbol is a 3-dimensional symbol-form constructed of 2 pyramidal-shaped vortices, each with a triangular base: one pyramidal-vortex is in the “point-up” upright position and intersects along a vertical line with the other inverted, “point-down” pyramidal-vortex. The 2-dimensional depiction of the star-tetrahedron is the commonly recognized symbol of the “6-pointed star” or “Star of David.” Within the CDT-Plates, both versions of this symbol were depicted with a circle around the symbol, and both were referred to as the “Hierophant” symbol, which depicted the mathematical formulae and multidimensional structures inherent to “Merkaba Fields.” Merkaba Fields are organic energy vortex structures that are part of the natural multidimensional “circulatory system” of the Living Cosmos, and which under certain conditions inherent to the Natural Laws of Multidimensional Physics, can become “vehicles of transport” within the organic processes of Genuine Ascension.

The Bi-Veca Code/ “vesica piscis” and the Hierophant 6-pointed star/ “star-tetrahedron” symbols, and the “Ascension Science” teachings corresponding to them, were part of the original “Sacred Science” teachings contained with in the CDT-Plate that was stolen during the Atlantean period. In the hands of the Illuminati, the Bi-Veca and Hierophant symbols and their corresponding bases of knowledge were, like the “Kathara Grid” and “Krystal Spiral,” distorted: first into the “Bloom of Doom” technologies, and later into a variety of “Death Science” teachings and practices used by competing Illuminati groups in their quest for Earth Templar control. Unlike the visibly discernible distortions of the Kathara Grid and Krystal Spiral symbols, Bi-Veca Code and Hierophant symbol distortions were not immediately noticeable; instead, the distortions were contained within the twisted teachings of finite-life energy mechanics that accompanied the symbols, while the image of the symbols themselves looked relatively the same. “Death Science” teachings involving the Bi-Veca Code — without its organic Tri-Veca Code counterpart — utilized the distorted energy mechanics inherent to the vesica piscis, by which inorganic, artificial, finite-life static “Dead Light” radiation fields can be generated through corresponding use of distorted Merkaba Vortex mechanics.

“Twisted” Merkaba Vortex mechanics implement unnatural distortions of the spin-speed and spin-direction of Merkabic Vortex sets, to create a particle/ anti-particle harness field within which energy and atoms can be trapped. Once trapped within the inorganic Merkaba Field, the harnessed energy quanta can then artificially sustain a prolonged longevity of form, and achieve limited local interdimensional transport, as long as the inorganic Merkaba Harness around it can “feed”/ drain energy from organically living energy fields. The inorganic Merkaba Field, also known as the “Death Star” or “External Merkaba,” must “feed,” much as an “energy vampire” — as unlike organic “Krystar” Merkaba Vehicle structures, the “Death Star Merkaba” is incapable of independently generating energy quanta for self-sustenance.

Once activated, this “Artificial-Light Death Star Merkaba Vehicle,” created through the “Bloom of Doom” and related technologies, engages the finite-life mathematical growth formulae of the “golden mean rectangle” and “Fibonacci spiral & sequence” to increase its spin-speed by draining energy from the life-field around it. Usually, inorganic Death Star Merkaba technologies employ the unnatural spin-speed starting ratios of “34 / 21” in relation to two separate “same-spin fixed-vortex sets” (4 vortices, rather than the organic 2) placed in counter-rotation to each other, which accelerate and blend to a “common spin” of 55 when activated. Following activation, the Death Star Merkaba engages acceleration and quantum expansion via the inorganic growth ratios of the Fibonacci sequence, using the “energy sucking” dynamics inherent to the physics-mechanics illustrated within the Fibonacci spiral. Organic Krystar Merkaba Vehicles begin with a natural “331/3 – 112/3” spin-speed ratio of a single set of 2 counter-rotating vortices, and build spin-speed and energy thrust to much higher speeds — beyond the known “speed of light” — through internal quantum self-generation, following the mathematical correspondences characteristic to the organic “Krystal Spiral and Sequence” growth formula. The “ratio numbers” pertaining to organic Merkaba Vortex spin-speeds refer to the number of rotations each counter-rotating vortex completes in a given period, for a period measured in increments that can be relatively compared to “one rotation per trillionth of a billionth of a nanosecond,” or RP-TBN.

Upon full activation, the “Death Star Merkaba Harness Vehicle” and its contents, be it a person, planet or galaxy, can engage limited local interdimensional relocation — but only through inorganic wormhole, portal and black hole structures formed by the same “Death Science” technologies. Once a biological or matter-form engages full Death Star Merkaba Vehicle activation, its matter-template becomes permanently mutated, and the being or matter-form loses its organic potential of natural multidimensional Ascension, along with the ability to pass through the organic Star-Gate “Ascension Passages” inherent to the Cosmic Templar. Though the Death Star Merkaba offers the “immediate perks” of temporary extension of form longevity and limited interdimensional transport within black hole/ wormhole systems, due to the organic Natural Laws of Physics inherent to the eternal system of the Living Cosmos, the ultimate fate of the Death Star Merkaba is inevitable implosion, energetic self-annihilation and release of its harnessed quanta to space-dust. Use of the Death Star External Merkaba Vehicle can be compared to “taking a poorly planned quantum joyride that inevitably ends in a deadly crash at the end of a dead-end road”; at the least, use of the Death Star Merkaba is a very unwise decision, if one genuinely cares about the potentials of one’s own experiential evolutionary destiny.

Unlike the inorganic, externally-fueled External Merkaba of the Death Star Vehicle, the organic, internally-fueled Internal Merkaba structures inherent to the Krystar Ascension Vehicle allow for progressively unlimited interdimensional and trans-dimensional travel, and full, holistic evolutionary expansion back into the Original State of Pure Source-Consciousness. The Krystar Ascension Vehicle is formed through, and functions as, a natural consequence to harmonious use of energy and consciousness in relation to the Natural Laws of Physics inherent to the eternal Living Cosmos.

The distorted vesica piscis Artificial-Light manipulations and Death Star Merkaba mechanics, which are at the core of the ancient Atlantean “Bloom of Doom” and “Death Science” teachings, work together with the distorted matter-template mechanics of the “Tree of Artificial Life,” “golden mean rectangle,” the “Fibonacci spiral & sequence” and other related “Death Science” components not discussed in this writing, to form an inorganic technology that attempts to manufacture an “artificial facsimile of Eternal Life Ascension.” This “facsimile of the sacred” is intended to allow the organic Laws of Energy and Consciousness that govern the eternal Living Cosmos, to be bent, broken, twisted and misused, without truth or consequence, by the whims of finite ego.

Beings who knowingly employ this mentality desire to “take a free ride at the expense of whomever or whatever crosses their paths,” without any consideration for “fair or harmoniously balanced energy exchange”; they suffer from a Dis-ease of Supreme Arrogance, through which they become self-deluded into thinking they can escape the organic Natural Laws of Action and Consequence-to-Action by which the eternal Cosmos functions. Such beings inevitably learn, most often the “hard way,” that such “delusions of grandeur,” and the perverse technologies created to fulfill them, simply do not work within the greater structures and context of the eternal Natural Cosmic Laws of Multidimensional Physics — for energetic action will always be met with corresponding energetic consequence.

The genuine “Sacred Science” teachings of the MCEO existed long before creation of the CDT-Plates or seeding of the Angelic Human lineage; the organic First-Creation Dynamics featured in the MCEO teachings existed as the living framework of cosmic reality long before the nature of these dynamics were ever recorded as “teachings.” The “Death Science” distortions of these “First-Creation Dynamics” also existed within our Universe long before their more recent historical return to Earth through the Atlantean “Bloom of Doom” teachings derived from Illuminati infiltration of the stolen CDT-Plate. Technologies born of the “false Sacred Science” teachings, and corresponding perversions of Natural Cosmic Physics Laws, have wreaked havoc for eons within our Galaxy and others, since their inception billions of years ago among interdimensional races that attempted to “push the concept of Free Will Consequence” beyond all intrinsic, organic cosmic boundaries. Prior to the appearance of the “Bloom of Doom” Death Science technologies on Earth, these technologies were known in our local Universe as the “Teachings of Metatronic Death Science,” named after a local entity collective, called “Metatron,” who was instrumental in bringing the Death Sciences more directly into our local Galaxy.

(Detailed information on “organic First-Creation Dynamics,” the historical “Fall of Metatron” and related characters, and the mechanics and historical applications of “Metatronic Death Science” is found in Voyagers Volume-2, 2nd Edition, throughout various MCEO Freedom Teachings® workshop DVD programs, and in Introductory-Topics Summary-1.)



Ancient Deception, the Fall of Atlantis & Comparative Review of Death Science Paradigms

In the ancient Atlantean period of Earth, the “Bloom of Doom” Death Science technologies became well-rooted in Atlantean cultural practices; our contemporary planetary environment, human DNA and the evolutionary potentials of Earth’s collective life-field are still suffering from the progressive, continuing effects of the applications of the Atlantean Death Science technologies. A primary factor in the spread of Death Science teachings and technologies within the advanced ancient cultures of the Atlantean period was the mass deception used by Illuminati groups to misrepresent these teachings as originating from a “Divine Inspired Source”; part of this deception involved the “demonstration of great powers” that could be achieved with application of the Death Science technologies. Masses of people were deceived into thinking that the “wisdom and powers” allotted them, through use of the Death Science teachings and technologies, were assisting them to heal, reach greater levels of spiritual enlightenment and attain mastery over the process of Bio-Spiritual Ascension
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[Beth]

All I know is I'm tired as hell! I feel the energy moving through me all the time and my soul, body, mind, is tired.

[Wood]

I recognise I have most of the mentioned signs, but I can't help thinking this might be a mind-trap targeted to the kind of people interested in these subjects. I still have no conclusive proof I am a 'volunteer' but I find it interesting that John says he has.

I know I do not like this reality, this survival-of-the-fittest world, this feeding on external energies. It feels wrong and too much unnecessary suffering, everywhere. I am not unhappy and I have a comfortable life but I do not like it here. Sometimes things and people feel like sticky molasses... Since I started doing meditation a few months ago I have had a clear feeling of an ongoing change (although now I see how the events of the last few years of my life have led me to this state). I feel I am changing a lot. I've lost interest about most worldly things. I feel I'm going to be ok and that my task here is over or almost over. The energy waves that I'm feeling seem to be more frequent and strong now. I feel I am waiting.

Too much feeling, but the remains of my intellect still cry there is not enough evidence :)

[Bill Ryan]

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This is an important thread... I'm for sure in the first category (so are hundreds of people I know and love), and I'm in awe of people I keep meeting who are clearly in the second and third.

Here are various thoughts.... later I'll return and post more in detail about some of my personal experiences.


One role of the first arrivals may be to assist the next two waves to integrate and do their work.
I suspect that these new arrivals are also coming from other times, as well as other planets/systems.
I think there's a widely accepted and agreed non-interference prototol which is very much tied up with universal principles of autonomy, free will, freedom to learn from experience, responsibility, etc. So in order to help 'steer' a struggling civilization towards a better future, this is the way it has to be done.

More on the last:

I think the reptilian overlords - and I am convinced they are physically real, although they have the capacity to operate inter-dimensionally as well - have violated this rule and are doing everything they can to control Planet Earth at least partially via an extensive walk-in program of their own.

This creates problems, because their interference can't be handled by two wrongs making a right.

In other words, the good guys can't land on the White House lawn (or anywhere else en masse) and shoot-em-up... which they surely could if they chose to.

The way this IS being handled - I believe - is by tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands, but still a significant minority) of very able ETs incarnating or walking-in as humans to add some balance to the game.

So the stakes are high, there are large numbers of ET visitors in human bodies (one way or another) from both sides, and the majority of regular humans have no clue what is going on all around them.

It's interesting to speculate on what the stakes might be, but I personally feel that the reptilian overlords are trying to steer the future timeline in one particular direction.

The good guys (and if you're reading this you're probably one of them :) ) are trying to steer it another way.

So we have two groups of passengers in the same careening, out-of-control bus trying to take control of the wheel. They have the guns (literally and metaphorically)... so we have to be smarter than that.

What they have on their side: high technology, trillions of dollars, the ability to manipulate time and space, control of politics, finance and the media.

What we have: a genuine spiritual ability (which they are terrified of), 'Right' on our side, a vast amount of subtle support (and co-ordination) from behind the scenes, a gradually increasing leverage in our message being heard by regular people.

This, of course, was perfectly presented in the Star Wars myth, which is why the first three movies had such appeal. It was all basically a true reflection of what was really happening. Lord of the Rings, too.. it's the same theme.

It sounds like a fair game :)

[Luke]

Walk-in or no walk in, whatever wave, really for me it do not matter much. concept itself is powerful enough :)
There is a job to do, here now. Look at the world, how much things changed, for both "good" and "bad". Imagine talking about concepts we talk right now, even a hundred years ago! The leap is tremendous!
For a thousands of years world was quite a static place, there were bright spots of things new here and there, but they faded away, the daily toil in the field, dying hundred paces from a place you were born were the norm. There were no other concept of reality other that that professed in one church or another.
And look where we are now, even though many still live the way they did for thousand of years, but really, that's a beauty of it that there is a place for anybody, really. All levels, all quadrants.
Now the time comes when humankind must be born, to build world of his own, and let the birth-world continue its course, on another cycle. This will be hard, and great many are scared, but such is life, the spiral goes up and beyond, you cannot stop the Flow :) At least I feel that my presence here is towards that goal.
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EDIT: mental note: refresh page more often while typing :)
Tolkien knew much more that he wrote, we shall keep in mind, that we cannot use weapons of the enemy.
And that bit too:


All that is gold does not glitter, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_that_is_gold_does_not_glitter)
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.

[1984]

A thread started earlier in the week on the evolution of Indigo Children and each generation may be relevant to this topic.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3610-The-Evolution-of-Indigo-Children-Indigo-Adults-and-Crystal-Beings

As I was born in the mid-80's I often feel very blessed to live in a somewhat open minded age (but that is obviously very debatable).

I like to believe in two things;
1. Open minds lead to open doors.
2. I'm only limited by my imagination and will.

I can only hope I can bring change to this world before my time is up.

[TraineeHuman]

I know both from experience and from observation that walk-ins do exist. My mother was extremely psychic, possibly the most accurate telepath and mind-picture reader I ever met. The night she died she tried to say continuously in touch with me telepathically, to get my help to heal the depression she was feeling at that time about dying. Then at the moment she died, she tried to jump into my body. For a few minutes it felt like a full-on physical wrestling match, with her energies trying to grab onto most of the full length of my spine and my neck. Her energies weren’t actually physical, but I most certainly felt their effects physically, and energetically (i.e., 4D) as well. Thank goodness I had the psychic strength, or perhaps just the greater familiarity with my own body and energy field, to push her off every time. Then she realised that she had tried to do something that wasn’t right. But not before she had tried to put the thought into my mind that it might be more convenient, and ever so nice, for me to leave the physical world at that point.

I also knew somebody whose personality changed radically when he was an adolescent. His father was extremely psychic, and claimed that that son had been taken over by another being via a walk-in. I do know that from that point on I felt a kind of involuntary revulsion and opposition whenever I was near that son – much, much greater than with anybody else I’ve ever met. And at a former workplace I’d met a number of people who were convicted of murder. After the walk-in, the son became extremely charismatic. You could say that “everybody loved him”, but foolishly so. He proved to be highly exploitative, and very much a con-man and a compulsive cheat. It’s a form of what’s technically known as “borderline personality disorder”.

[TraineeHuman]

I forgot to mention that my mother was extremely warm and caring towards me. I’m sure the only reason she tried to walk-in into my body was that she had an abnormal fear of death. Very unusual in somebody so clairvoyant, of course. After she died she felt terrified and extremely uncomfortable for weeks – which is quite different from how the majority of people feel after they die. The only reason she felt that way was because she had had such negative beliefs and fear regarding death. To me, that is also great evidence to prove that our mindset and what we focus on creates the type of experience we have. Even more so in the 4D world. Fortunately, my mother eventually felt very “at home” and quite happy in the afterlife. But for the first three weeks she followed me around everywhere I went and gave me a non-stop, nit-picking commentary on absolutely everything in my life. Which I did not welcome, even though I realised this was her way of trying to show me she cared even while she felt terrified.

[Arpheus]

Hey shiva why do you always have to post this ashayana stuff in here,i mean i dont have a problem with what you wanna believe in or follow it at all,but it always seems to me or should i say the feeling i get that your somehow trying to talk others into going the same direction,i dont know about others but my personal experience always thought me to search for the real and the only truth within not outside from people who claim to be the only keepers of the sources of all knowledge.
Peace out and love to you brother.

[kriya]

I forgot to mention that my mother was extremely warm and caring towards me. I’m sure the only reason she tried to walk-in into my body was that she had an abnormal fear of death. Very unusual in somebody so clairvoyant, of course. After she died she felt terrified and extremely uncomfortable for weeks – which is quite different from how the majority of people feel after they die. The only reason she felt that way was because she had had such negative beliefs and fear regarding death. To me, that is also great evidence to prove that our mindset and what we focus on creates the type of experience we have. Even more so in the 4D world. Fortunately, my mother eventually felt very “at home” and quite happy in the afterlife. But for the first three weeks she followed me around everywhere I went and gave me a non-stop, nit-picking commentary on absolutely everything in my life. Which I did not welcome, even though I realised this was her way of trying to show me she cared even while she felt terrified.

Thanks Traineehuman, the image of your mother following you around in spirit made me laugh:love:

You must be very psychic too!

I believe I'm part of the second wave, can't prove it, just intuition.

Love,

Kriya

[Moemers]

None of this really resonated with me until about 2 minutes ago.

I've always read these threads and kind of longed to be one of the mentioned, but I never had the feeling that I was.

However, like I said, about 2 minutes ago, I had this overwhelming and very peaceful wave of thought that said, "You're here to help, and even if you aren't one, you're definitely on the ground crew."

Let's do some work :D

[Agape]

All that is gold does not glitter, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_that_is_gold_does_not_glitter)
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.



Beautiful wording ...


What about 'walk-outs- , any idea on those ? Have you seen people who had walked out , anybody ?


I've seen a movie on that topic, maybe some of you did as well, called K-Pax. It's a heartbreaking story but very truthful in its core, could be, that is.


If you have time, check that movie. Also , on lighter note..there's lovely book called ET 101 Cosmic Instruction Manual :http://www.et101.net/


I'm sure you know about that book, it's somewhere in the old Avalon library as well, I believe.


''
Crawl-In
Even the most urbane and knowledgeable members of this mission will not have heard of the term crawl-in because we just made it up. Crawl-ins are planetary transition team members who opted to enter this plane through the normal, currently traumatic birth process. Upon arriving, most of them instantly reevaluated the situation and changed their minds, but were unable to figure out a way back.

The majority of this group incarnated shortly after World War II, their advent being triggered by the Manhattan Project’s birthing of the nuclear age and the subsequent atomic bombing of Japan. They are referred to as the “war-baby crop” or “baby boomers” by the unsuspecting local population. The crawl-ins are the backbone of this mission. If you are reading this, you are most likely one of them because the “crawl-ins” are the ones that necessitated the writing of this manual.

''



:grouphug:

[illuminate]

This is excellent.
Thank YOU ALL for posting... I have to say I could FEEL that there were many of us here on Avalon.
And it is also NO surprise to see who did post :p


I am from the first wave (as a Wanderer). I worked it out after a while of reading different things and then the lightbulb went on. Once I had started meditating more regularly I had experiences that set this, for me, beyond doubt.


John is spot on about the meditation, same for me.
I am a second wave.

I fought meditation for years... knew I should and wanted to do it,
but couldn't sit still or find the time :p
But once you do, it's golden! It's a direct connection to self, which has ALL THE ANSWERS!!

Also, once I stopped polluting my body ALL my psychic channels opened up!
In AMAZING ways!!
I had always been a very sensitive empath, but now, after detoxing
(I quit: cigarettes, head pills for depression + anxiety, excessive drinking alcohol and smoking pot, processed food, fluoride, mercury, artificial sweetener, soda, TV..)
now not only can I FEEL, but I can SEE and HEAR as well. (no wonder right!)
Some other pretty awesome things too.

:love:

[LeeEllisMusic]

First Wave here ~ Angelic Wanderer~

Never felt that I belonged either here on this planet, or to the family of my birth...
Always yearned to go "home" though not sure what or where that was,
and ever since I can remember, have carried a *d e e p* sense of mission...

I'm tired too, yet it seems the time is here for... well for what exactly... I cannot now remember -
Though here at Avalon I feel more connected, and the job at hand seems more clear...
For me it has to do with music, with uplifting energies... and there's more too...

I have always had a great Faith as well, and a sense that I was taken care of in a way that was both certain and unexplainable...

Interestingly, I am at the same time both terrified and totally at peace.
Whatever I came for, the time is NOW...

And, I have come to really love the Earth, though not so much being in a body, or having delayed manifestation... Being in the midst of abundant unkindness and violence is almost more than I can bear...

But Earth is a lovely place. I would love to see her Ascend out of this madness... and lend a hand, if I can...

Still, I cannot wait to see my real home once again... I know I will return there, whenever I am meant to, and whatever path that unfolds for me will surely, eventually take me there...

I have Great Love in my life, yet I do feel so alone...

So, wow, thanks for this thread! Felt good to say that...
And to know that many here are in a similar boat~


Also, to whomever asked about Walk-Ins...
For every soul that Walks In, One Walks Out.
Though it gets more complicated, as you can have soul merges too, where there can be a "braiding" of energies - - and/or an infusion of "more" of your Higher Self joining to the physical.

Takes all kinds to make a world/cosmos, right? :)

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[Samarkis]

: )

Much Light!

[greybeard]

First Wave here ~ Angelic Wanderer~

Never felt that I belonged either here on this planet, or to the family of my birth...
Always yearned to go "home" though not sure what or where that was,
and ever since I can remember, have carried a *d e e p* sense of mission...

I'm tired too, yet it seems the time is here for... well for what exactly... I cannot now remember -
Though here at Avalon I feel more connected, and the job at hand seems more clear...
For me it has to do with music, with uplifting energies... and there's more too...

I have always had a great Faith as well, and a sense that I was taken care of in a way that was both certain and unexplainable...


And, I have come to really love the Earth, though not so much being in a body, or having delayed manifestation... Being in the midst of abundant unkindness and violence is almost more than I can bear...

But Earth is a lovely place. I would love to see her Ascend out of this madness... and lend a hand, if I can...

Still, I cannot wait to see my real home once again... I know I will return there, whenever I am meant to, and whatever path that unfolds for me will surely, eventually take me there...

I have Great Love in my life, yet I do feel so alone...

So, wow, thanks for this thread! Felt good to say that...
And to know that many here are in a similar boat~



Thanks Lee.
I could identify word for word with what you have said.
Im rather older than most here but I would qualify for first wave in every other respect.
Im so tired, I seem to have been away from home since for ever.
If I woke up dead tomorrow it would be ok.
I have had a good life done many things yet the loneliness has been at times unbearable and that is in spite of having 5 great children and been married twice and always in long term relationships. Yet I am not home and I know that, I just dont belong here it is like a prison restricting me, a lunatic asylum, yet I love the people.
I dont know what is going to happen or when but I feel the flow of energy flooding through me and the need to sleep greater.
I know something is happening and thats all I can say for sure.
With love Chris

[illuminate]

Thanks Lee. I could identify word for word with what you have said...

... I seem to have been away from home since for ever...

... the loneliness has been at times unbearable ...

Yet I am not home and I know that, I just dont belong here it is like a prison restricting me,
a lunatic asylum, yet I love the people....

DITTO!
:love:

[Astra]

I've seen a movie on that topic, maybe some of you did as well, called K-Pax. It's a heartbreaking story but very truthful in its core, could be, that is.



:grouphug:

I saw this movie ... Kevin Spacey was absolutely amazing!




Never felt that I belonged either here ...

Always yearned to go "home" though not sure what or where that was,

Takes all kinds to make a world/cosmos, right? :)



This sounds very familiar :)
Peace and Love
Astra

[Olam]

Did not want to reply to this really but I find myself typing anyway.....
Yep, Im very tired too, never felt like this was home. Have been wandering forever, waiting, searching, giving up, searching yet again, giving up again...on and on. I don,t mind dieing, but I also want to do what I am supposed to do here....whateverthat is.
I can also easily tell how someone is feeling pretty much instantly, always have been able to do that. Its not that practical when you know people find you wierd!
Lately, I feel I have sort of given up.
My daughter mentioned a dream she had last month that really shakes me, I have had dreams related to that too.
She said I told her in a dream that I had to suicide myself to go back to god as he needed me there. Then I have been having 3-4 dreams in a couple months where someone is yelling at me, sort of mad "well we have someone here who is suicidal", I usually tell them off in the dream and wakeup.
Now this would not rattle me much if it was not for this nasty skin disorder I have developed in the few months. I should really have it checked, but keep putting it off. It would seem to me like some kind of melanoma. I have no idea.
Now I don,t want to kill myself, I do want to live, but at the same time, I don,t really care as I have sort of given up beleiving that I can be happy. I have battled depression before, Im not in one now, but I don't like my life or this planet that much. Well that is mostly true....I would love to be happy here but I find that impossible. I have been trying for 43 years.
So anyway, please don,t think im suicidal as its really not the case, but this skin thing and the dreams are preoccupying. Especially my daughters dream.

If I am really from out there on a mission, would'nt I know by now?....you would think that they would not want to waste me. Sofar, Im all alone on a clueless mission and Im very tired of all that.
thanks for giving me the oportunity to write this
Peace

[jack]

I'm not quite sure where i fit into all of this. I share much of the charecteristics, and I am indeed hell-bent on saving humanity (come hell or high water, or solar flare), But I just posted that thread because im certain of one thing. Pure souls are incarnated on planet earth en-mass to save the species from extinguishing itself via its own anguish. If these souls did not incarnate, I'd be very suprised if earth was still occupied by humanity at this present moment, considering the roads we were going down, such an end seemed inevitable.

So keep on rocking Walk-ins/Wanderers/Indigos , whatever ya wanna call em! Doing a fantastic job so far ;)

[john.d]

Ive thought for some time that im a wanderer . The more i read about it , the more it makes sense and fit the profile . I was brought up by my grandparents and always thought that the feeling of not belonging and being different was because of that . Always had a keen interest in the stars and a longing to go home ( i just put that down to my upbringing too) .
I got swept into the maelstrom for a while but reading the Ra material gave me the kickstart i needed .
Getting regressed is quite high on my agenda now ..... I was given a number last week of someone that does it locally but they are on holiday until next week . Keen .

Scott Mandelker has an ' are you a wanderer ' questionare that is worth a try :
http://www.scottmandelker.com/Articles/etquiz.html

John

[illuminate]

Speaking of regression... where's Dolores when ya need her?
Maybe she'd give us a group rate :alien:

[JoshERTW]

To quote illuminate, "I fought meditation for years... knew I should and wanted to do it,
but couldn't sit still or find the time"

I seem to have the same issue. I've had some interesting meditations when I actually work at it, lucid dreams seem to come easily when I am diligent in my dream-work focus too. I have kept a dream journal pretty religiously for the last 6 months or so, and have even seen some of it happen in real life!

To quote Lee, "For me it has to do with music, with uplifting energies... and there's more too..."

I'm with ya there. I feel my place in this is to write and record music about these topics and get it out to people. Its a tough slog as I have to compete against my day job for time and motivation. Its a weird situation, I love music and want to play it all day while I'm at work. Then when I get home I wanna veg out, maybe read up on the latest oil spill news, or *gasp* watch some TV (Dvd's rather, don't have cable on purpose).

Motivation is my issue, I feel as though I should be motivated to do the things I love, even when I'm tired or whatever. I'm sure a lot of my fellow "wave" has the same problem. Perhaps it comes from growing up in a society where the TV or a trip to McDonalds meant comfort and relaxation? I don't know. But I'm certainly having problems breaking some of the old habits, especially after a long day at the office.

[frank samuel]

I have memory of self since about 3 months of age. I could not relate much to my earth family, I love them, always felt that although they are good people there was not much that I could learn from them. Ran away from home several times, leaved in the streets for about a year. I spend most of my life traveling in the USA, Europe, some parts of central America always searching for an answer to this madness. In the last few years I had a few out of body experiences which basically show me that our soul can always instantly be home even if your physical form belongs to a different reality. This feeling of finally being home has help me to become a more loving and compassionate person. I know eventually one day I will close my eyes and I will go wherever I am needed for the next adventure. For now I know we are here because we have chosen to be here at this time. I am a parent of five children and I have become a teacher,student, friend, father to them. My 3 year old son drives me crazy asking about a thousand questions a day. What is that, he always ask me. He has taught me to appreciate the world around me , the richness of colors, the innocence of a wonderful imagination wanting to experience every single moment. I guess that after years of struggling to find meaning in my life, a purpose, I finally found it. I am looking forward to the future come what may. My soul is always home, is a feeling of a warm embrace very hard to explain in words. In this lifetime it took me nearly fifty years to find my way home, no matter what material form I see in the mirror, the soul within is only temporally inhabiting this body to be a part of the events unfolding.

Many many blessings to all.:wub:

[pilotsimone]

Did not want to reply to this really but I find myself typing anyway.....
Yep, Im very tired too, never felt like this was home. Have been wandering forever, waiting, searching, giving up, searching yet again, giving up again...on and on. I don,t mind dieing, but I also want to do what I am supposed to do here....whateverthat is.
I can also easily tell how someone is feeling pretty much instantly, always have been able to do that. Its not that practical when you know people find you wierd!
Lately, I feel I have sort of given up.
...
Now I don,t want to kill myself, I do want to live, but at the same time, I don,t really care as I have sort of given up beleiving that I can be happy. I have battled depression before, Im not in one now, but I don't like my life or this planet that much. Well that is mostly true....I would love to be happy here but I find that impossible. I have been trying for 43 years.
So anyway, please don,t think im suicidal as its really not the case, but this skin thing and the dreams are preoccupying. Especially my daughters dream.

If I am really from out there on a mission, would'nt I know by now?....you would think that they would not want to waste me. Sofar, Im all alone on a clueless mission and Im very tired of all that.
thanks for giving me the oportunity to write this
Peace

I just wanted to acknowledge your pain, Olam. I do understand. It wasn't so long ago (a few months?) I felt I was at the same point. Exactly the same place. I offer you my Love and support. I did find my way...and the key was my ability to shift my focus no matter the situation. I kept getting squeezed harder and harder. Each day was more overwhelming than the next until I realized they were all tests. Opportunities to be exact. The key was to react differently. I failed over and over again...until one day I didn't. One day, I was able to switch from the lowest of lows to the highest of highs by doing what I've been practicing for months...living and feeling words of higher vibration. Certainty. Capable. Gratitude. Graciousness. Beauty. ...and many, many more.

That one day gave me the confidence I needed to tackle any episode of NON-well-being. I still struggle at times, but it seems to lessen considerably each time.

I like to imagine myself after I die sitting in a room reviewing my life. I don't ever want to be the one who didn't get it. Who didn't understand my role here. Who didn't get that it was my purpose to conquer fear and Love freely. It really is that simple.

You can do this. We are here for you. :)

[zelda]

First Wave here ~ Angelic Wanderer~

Never felt that I belonged either here on this planet, or to the family of my birth...
Always yearned to go "home" though not sure what or where that was,
and ever since I can remember, have carried a *d e e p* sense of mission...

I'm tired too, yet it seems the time is here for... well for what exactly... I cannot now remember -
Though here at Avalon I feel more connected, and the job at hand seems more clear...
For me it has to do with music, with uplifting energies... and there's more too...

I have always had a great Faith as well, and a sense that I was taken care of in a way that was both certain and unexplainable...

Interestingly, I am at the same time both terrified and totally at peace.
Whatever I came for, the time is NOW...

And, I have come to really love the Earth, though not so much being in a body, or having delayed manifestation... Being in the midst of abundant unkindness and violence is almost more than I can bear...

But Earth is a lovely place. I would love to see her Ascend out of this madness... and lend a hand, if I can...

Still, I cannot wait to see my real home once again... I know I will return there, whenever I am meant to, and whatever path that unfolds for me will surely, eventually take me there...

I have Great Love in my life, yet I do feel so alone...

So, wow, thanks for this thread! Felt good to say that...
And to know that many here are in a similar boat~


Also, to whomever asked about Walk-Ins...
For every soul that Walks In, One Walks Out.
Though it gets more complicated, as you can have soul merges too, where there can be a "braiding" of energies - - and/or an infusion of "more" of your Higher Self joining to the physical.

Takes all kinds to make a world/cosmos, right? :)

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I agree with you. I'm first wave as well and the mother of a crystal child.
I'm my case. I have never felt at home on Earth. I do love this planet, but I'm longing to go back home...wherever that is. I do have a sense of mission; ready on call.
I do not feel the "family" with my relatives. But I love to relate with other people, listen to them, assist, serve, learn from others and be grateful for the humanness in humans.
I meditate, I pray.
Like you, I have a great love in my life, yet, he cannot seem to understand what to me seems reasonable and obvious, and as much as I try, his human nature is just superficial.
Then again, meditate, pray, resonate with the higher energy frequency that inspires me to keep on going.....Im here for a reason, ready on call, ready to protect, ready to serve.

[illuminate]

My 3 year old son drives me crazy asking about a thousand questions a day. What is that, he always ask me. He has taught me to appreciate the world around me , the richness of colors, the innocence of a wonderful imagination wanting to experience every single moment. I guess that after years of struggling to find meaning in my life, a purpose, I finally found it. I am looking forward to the future come what may.

Just beautiful! :love:

[Snowbird]

Yes. As I read through this thread, I read about myself. Its amazing just how many similarities and parallels exist between 'us' volunteers.

I remember when I first heard Dolores Cannon describing the levels of volunteers, I just sat there shaking my head yes and realizing that there are more out there who are here on this Earth on a Love-Mission.

They, know about us and do everything in their power to dissuade us from continuing our volunteer work. The other day I sat quietly counting the number of times within my life that my life was absolutely in peril and every time, it seemed like there was some gentle unseen kindly force that swooped in to save the day...and me. This started right at my birth and I have counted seven. Two of these have been very recent after I had two hovering helicopter visits over my home a few years ago. They, don't like their secrets broadcasted.

I AM a very happy loner who is now in fully awakend state. Although what is happening in our present world is profoundly disturbing, I do understand that I came here to perform a job and will complete that assignment before leaving.

[Craig]

What a beautiful thread, tiredness and a feeling of longing I have had for awhile, especially when I see such sad things happening on this planet, but when I head on that dark spiral wondering about it all - I will then notice something uplifting - sunlight across a hillside or just the majesty of nautre, or medical science helping an disabled child, watching a deaf child hear for the first time - their facial expressions make me cry every time. Sure this place is doing it hard, but these small pockets of happiness help me to stay meandering on whatever track I am on, I want to leave but shall stick it out in the bleachers and watch what happens and hope the best of mankind emerges.

[Olam]

I just wanted to acknowledge your pain, Olam. I do understand. It wasn't so long ago (a few months?) I felt I was at the same point. Exactly the same place. I offer you my Love and support. I did find my way...and the key was my ability to shift my focus no matter the situation. I kept getting squeezed harder and harder. Each day was more overwhelming than the next until I realized they were all tests. Opportunities to be exact. The key was to react differently. I failed over and over again...until one day I didn't. One day, I was able to switch from the lowest of lows to the highest of highs by doing what I've been practicing for months...living and feeling words of higher vibration. Certainty. Capable. Gratitude. Graciousness. Beauty. ...and many, many more.

That one day gave me the confidence I needed to tackle any episode of NON-well-being. I still struggle at times, but it seems to lessen considerably each time.

I like to imagine myself after I die sitting in a room reviewing my life. I don't ever want to be the one who didn't get it. Who didn't understand my role here. Who didn't get that it was my purpose to conquer fear and Love freely. It really is that simple.

You can do this. We are here for you. :)

thankyou very much for this pilotsimone, it great to hear this. I know I will find my way someday, I have to. Patience must be one of the virtues that i decided to learn in this life......still working on it.
big hug to you

[bluestflame]

now the return of awareness

[Moemers]

Thought about you all when I saw this:

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[Jonathon]

Great thread - so happy this has been brought in.

Quick resource: A Wanderer's Handbook by Carla Rueckert (http://www.llresearch.org/library/a_wanderers_handbook_pdf/a_wanderers_handbook.pdf)

Wow where to start. I resonate with most of your stories and heavily with the volunteer/wanderer material. A few months after my grand awakening (just 2 short years ago) I read the Law of One material, which is where I first came across the concept of a wanderer. It hit me so hard that I cried... whether joy, sadness or some combination of thereof. Quickly thereafter I searched feverishly for more... as much as I could take in. I fit the profile to a T and then some... I even have a distinguishing mark (white patch in the center front of my hair... everyone always comments on it), which is also said to be a common thread - serves the purpose of a reminder to assist in the awakening process.

Just some highlights of my journey... many of you probably share:
1) Extreme sense of separation as a child. My mother was forced to remove me permanently from Kindergarten because I could note cope.
2) Get along with everyone, but unable to directly associate with anyone.
3) Exaggerated sense of justice, freedom and harmony.
4) Chronically homesick - cried myself to sleep many nights.
5) Constantly on the move to another place due to feeling of, well, just needing to leave!... went to many schools, lived in many cities and states... never able to put roots down anywhere. I don't think I have ever been in one place for more than 2 years without the strong compulsion to be somewhere else. That somewhere else is never known... I'm just happy to be going somewhere else.
6) Naturally artistic. Could always pick something up without much effort. Name the media... all forms of painting, drawing, sculpture, woodwork.
7) Inherent proficiency w/ almost everything - I have always been one of those who was good at everything and didn't take much to master a skill of any kind. Can build anything, fix anything (whether Ive seen it before or not), physically master anything... I can just FEEL things. The exception... socialization!!! I can't talk to people who aren't like me unless it is under a specific context (work related etc)... which is almost everyone! I can't make friends because I just don't resonate with anyone! I avoid crowds like the plague - they cause me discomfort. I can't do small talk, leisure talk, or any other thin and meaningless conversation. I even have a hard time posting on this forum... and have a feeling my tone sucks... unable to get my feelings across in words. Prior to my waking up I was practically a hermit... well I still am really except that I have a wanderer friend and a wanderer mother... and you all of course =)
8) Natural empath... lead me to a career as a therapist, however I had to carve out a niche for my work such that I could be self directed (a loner). because I cannot work for anyone unless they give me total freedom. Hence have started my own businesses... where I generally did everything myself... due to my inability to communicate well w/ regard to rules, policies, expectations... I have no capacity to desire or implement control(s).
9) I spent many of my teen years buried in fantasy games - dungeons and dragons and the sort - a place where I could create whatever I wanted and live in it.. engaging in global avoidance behaviors.
10) Major aversion to violence, irresponsible behavior, disrespectful behavior - any form of disharmony. This presents in tremors near to physical convulsion.
11) Highly sensitive... both the good and bad way.
12) Paranormal experiences... lived in a haunted plantation house for 2+ years, UFO sightings (I think they were sighting me as much as I them). Have always dreamed of traveling the universe. Wanted to be an astronaut as a child/teen... nearly went to the Air Force Academy to do just that (went through the whole dreadful process + congressional appointment), however learned that I could not take the military structure.

This is probably getting long... it's a subject near and dear.

Enjoying all of your stories... keep em coming.

[Beth]

Glad to know I'm not the only one feeling tired. I actually thought of starting a thread about it a few days ago, but I think I rightly placed my post in this thread. Love, my animals, and knowing there's people out there like-minded is what keeps me going.

[greybeard]

Glad to know I'm not the only one feeling tired. I actually thought of starting a thread about it a few days ago, but I think I rightly placed my post in this thread. Love, my animals, and knowing there's people out there like-minded is what keeps me going.

Hi Ya not oly tired but dizzy. When walking I really have to focus or I would meander as though I had a few drinks,floating sort of. The world seems slightly surreal. I am fit healthy I go to the gym. I had a full medical discussing these symptoms, loads of test blood pressure, blood tests etc all normal.
In the afternoon I go for a sleep for two hours, its not feeling tired really I just know I have to. I will sleep 8 hours at night as well.
Anyone else here with unusual symptoms?
Love C

[dim]

What's not usually clear enough is the fact that a wanderer - starseed - walk in
whatever the case may be is already fulfilling its purpose by just being here,
nothing else required and i know how boring - unappealing this sounds to the mind/ego
yet the "job" is done regardless of what one might think or want or hope for his life
and its purpose and it's done in the silent background, hidden and unseen by our current perception.

Our purpose is already fulfilled the moment they born here like a flower in the swarm
like a beacon in the night, slowly but steadily raising the vibration of our environment no matter
of how dark and gloomy that might be, every time we touch accidentally a stranger in the bus or
buy an icecream in the park, every time we spend hours bored in front of a tv wondering the
"purpose" of our life having no clue about what we are here for, what an irony.

There might be a time we are gone to be "activated" in to remembering
who we really are, may also be contacted physically or else, usually in dreams,
by our real family, we might already come with full memories
which is usually the case of a walk-in
and this could help as an acceleration of what we already doing,
we might find an "external" activity - a secondary purpose, which might look compatible
to what we think as a spiritual work like music and art or a healing service and this make us
feel a bit better about our so called "purpose" - this might happen or might not,
whatever the case may be is totally regardless of the real purpose,
not every starseed is a chiropractor or reiki master neither composing 432 Hz music,
could be just that old guy selling newspapers in the street corner complaining about his
arthritis when the weather change...
yet he is doing his real job perfectly as a frequency holder for so long without even knowing it.

If you can, don't let the blues of the wanderer get you too deep
for we all know how hard is to be here and how appealing suicide is,
for we already doing the job by just being here..
Just be.

[CetaceousOne]

for we already doing the job by just being here.

Great post!

Great thread!

Crawl-in, second wave. ;)

[greybeard]

Dim you are not my friend. Yes its not what you do, its what you have become, what you are.
It radiates forth and lifts all.
I agree with all you have posted here. Its refreshing to hear it.
Regards Chris

[lunaflare]

I can relate to much on many posts...thank you

indeed, like Wood, a strong sense of waiting...and yes, wandering...literally wandering this planet...
I am on the move, mostly a hermit and rarely in the same place for more than two or so years.
i have a desperate need to live near the ocean.
i find this so incredibly beautiful...the sound, the changing waters...
i am not sure i could handle witnessing the bleak devastation caused by the oil "leak" on the other side of this planet.
some days are much harder than others in that i just want out. to dissolve.
i agree with dim's post in that my role is just "to be"....mostly i find solace in seeing the beauty in nature.

i am sad and lonely some days: a withered leg of a seagull or plastic rings and rubbish tossed into the ocean can easily bring me to tears.
yet days of depressison are not so common these days
some days i spin around on the beach and sing into the wind...joyously alive.

alas, i do not feel i am very "good" at anything...but, in truth, i feel this may be low self esteem.
i have a facility in reciting shakespeare!

i DO believe that our thoughts limit and determine all that we do.
so, in truth, anything IS possible

i believe in the power of kindness.
i want to draw this power more fully into my being and practice this daily.
and to understand this power at deeper levels

I have not had children and although this has given me freedoms, it has also at times re-enforced a sense of purposelessness.

I do love the writings of Dolores Canon. her "wave" material has been insightful. i am a first-er!
i currently live in a very beautiful part of the world. nature keeps me sane and seems to mostly cancel out deep waves of depression
i walk alot and feel i am somehow grounding energy into the earth's grid.

i tune into this forum and am thankful for it.
i have some sort of metaphysical book on the read as a comforting presence. rarely a novel...
i too am a loner.
although, having read your posts...i would dearly love to meet some of you!

[Gareth]

I am definitely of the first wave. For literally decades I felt that I just didn't belong.

It wasn't until a few years ago that I finally awoke and discovered who I was and why I was here. Now that things make sense and resonate with me that I am much "more grounded" and happy with my life here.

I have always felt that my life was "directed" and that nothing happened to me by chance.

I feel that there is a change coming in the very, very near future...just what that turns out to be I wait patiently for, knowing that I am doing the job that I agreed to in my Life Contract.

G

[kriya]

Yes, Yes, Yes.

I can relate to everything everyone has written on this thread. The tiredness and loneliness are acute. The sense of mission is acute. I scored 95% on the Scott (can't remember his surname) ET test a few posts back.

Blimey, thank you for this thread it makes me feel quite emotional to know I am not alone, and you are all here.

:love:

Kriya

[rhythm]

Thank you for this thread ,i

relate to you all big time ...

last hurrdle is always the

hardest ,my friends

love and kindness to all

the time is now ...

and enougy is enough ..

keep your spirits up

belive in your self ;)

sure gets tiring tho :rolleyes:

just do your best

rhythmmm :hug:
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[777]

Completely relate to so many posts here. I've felt alone since birth. Even the people who know me inside out now still have no idea. I spent a lot of my childhood sat alone in forests in rural england, shunning football and all the other distractions opting for solitude by choice. My mother was adopted and we've never been able to trace her roots, something I've always known has played a part in this lost, slightly dizzy, awkward feeling I have here on earth. I consistently view the midnight sky feeling far more at home than when I then lower my eyes back to the ground. This is a gorgeous planet, but I've been sure for many years it's not "home".

[Sapphire]

is there a test that tells you what type ( walk-ins / wanderers / volunteers ) you are ?

[Wood]

I scored 95% on the Scott (can't remember his surname) ET test a few posts back.

Nice test. I'll repost it here in case someone else missed it (I just found it from your comment kriya):
http://www.scottmandelker.com/Articles/etquiz.html

I've scored 91% there and I suspect most people in the thread are in the same boat. However I still think it might be a mind trap, and, while soothing, it might be a block (ego) in the awakening process.
I am happy, though, that we are doing our jobs just being here alive (as dim says), so it would be irrelevant whether we are ET souls or not. I would not like to not fulfill my mission here if it is true I have one. I think part of the problem is that most of us would like to contribute to the healing of the world in a more direct fashion to have a sense of purpose. However that seeking of purpose outside ourselves is what makes me suspect this might be a block.

EDIT: I am not saying there are no ET souls incarnated here but that flirting with the idea without conclusive proof might be a distraction. Some people are quite sure about themselves and I am fine with that.

[bluestflame]

through the innate connectedness we're more able now to sense others through our shared emotions

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when we cease to fight ourselves it assists others

[1984]

Nice test. I'll repost it here in case someone else missed it (I just found it from your comment kriya):
http://www.scottmandelker.com/Articles/etquiz.html

I've scored 91% there and I suspect most people in the thread are in the same boat. However I still think it might be a mind trap, and, while soothing, it might be a block (ego) in the awakening process.
I am happy, though, that we are doing our jobs just being here alive (as dim says), so it would be irrelevant whether we are ET souls or not. I would not like to not fulfill my mission here if it is true I have one. I think part of the problem is that most of us would like to contribute to the healing of the world in a more direct fashion to have a sense of purpose. However that seeking of purpose outside ourselves is what makes me suspect this might be a block.

Thank you for the repost of the link. I scored quite highly on this, 98%, but at the same time I also found some of the questions to be somewhat very general which could sway the results into higher percentage should the subject choose to do so (but of course that wouldn't be in the spirit of the self test ;)). Either way I myself don't think I need to refer to an online poll to try and figure out who I am and my potential origins, as I am not familiar with Scott Mandelker or his crediblity in the field.

EDIT:
Having read through a few articles on Scott Mendelker's website I believe him to be quite balanced and see that he seems to assess much of the information he encounters in a critical manner. Although I disagree with some points in his ET-Earth relationship timeline. Not much relevance to my post update but I didn't want to leave my post with the impression that I had a negative opinion of this person.

[greybeard]

I am relieved to find so many here with similar symptoms.
Eckhart Tolle in his Book " A New Earth" speaks of healers and other like minded people being anchors, holding the new energy coming in.
There you go John you are well named.
Who knows if its true but I hope so. So many theories I gave up a long time ago trying to make sense of anything.
C

[john.d]

I am relieved to find so many here with similar symptoms.


Me too . There are only 2 people i know that i can talk to about it , so seeing so many on here in the same boat is quite reasuring . We are obviously in the right place ey .

Try these images of where earth sits in the scheme of things , its good to see a different visual perspective :
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2009/10/24/humans-should-ponder-their-place-in-universe-focus-on-no-self-can-help-resolve-many-problems/

[illuminate]

Thanks to everyone for being so forthcoming.
For me, the absolute worst part is the loneliness!! I have been so utterly lonely my
whole life. I had many serious relationships, many friends and at times, very social...
but the loneliness was always there.

It doesn't really matter to me if I'm alien or human or something else.
I don't need a label to feel good about myself. What does help is knowing that there
are others who feel the same way. Look at how many of us have feel the same way!
How wonderful this is to know WE ARE NOT ALONE and to support and love one another.

My awakening (to this topic specifically) has been rather abrupt and a bit unsettling.
I've had a series of experiences that come right out of the Twilight Zone and have left
me questioning my sanity. If it hadn't been for a forum member reaching out to me and
acting as an anchor, I am unsure where I'd be right now. (THANK YOU!)

The loneliness and questioning my sanity are the only two things that keep me from doing
what I came here to do. This is the main reason for starting this thread... so that we can
know we are not alone, that we are indeed very sane and that we can serve as anchors
for each other.

With love! :love:

[wynderer]

i have reasons to think that i am a walk-in & a wanderer --

i guess i'll start here: one of my internet friends is a former employee of DHS before their purge some years back, who also happens to be a cousin of one of the PC interviewees -- he emails items of interest to a small group of friends -- last year a new woman's name appeared on his list -- after a month or two he emailed me that she wanted to talk w/me on the phone -- he said she was very psychic, so don't try to b.s. her, & that if i got into communication w/her i'd be tracked [i told him i already am] -- i agreed -- in our very first phone conversation she told me i am a walk-in, & that she is also

first i'd like to write a bit about her, as this ties in w/what Bill wrote about what i call illegal & unethical walk-ins happening, i suspect in greater numbers than most of us know

in the course of a number of conversations w/her, she has told me that she is a grey, 'technically a clone' [her words], from a small planet in the Orion constellation [Orion = big uh-oh for me] -- she remembers a life as a reptilian also -- she told me that Eve Lorgen had her DNA tested, proving that she is not fully human

my conversations w/her have been easy on the one hand -- we hit it off on the normal communication level from the beginning -- tho i have come to think that her controllers, w/their knowledge of my mind/psyche [& of anyone else they focus on], determined that a warm, motherly woman is the best vehicle for softening/reaching me -- i like her as a person, tho it may be that it is the vestigial personality of the human woman originally in the body that i'm responding to

on the other hand, our conversations have been troubling to me, starting out w/her efforts to recruit me for the reptilians [other such attempts have been made in my life] -- this is what our first talks were about -- she told me that she is considered the strong one of her people here, & that she is able/allowed to act as an ambassador for her people, & in that capacity she invited me to leave on one of their ships -- she said the ships are golden -- shortly after that i saw a large golden object streaking upwards in the sky

i declined the invitation -- often during our talks, it is difficult getting a straight answer from her -- i have to work to pin her down -- & i'm still not clear on exactly who is on those ships -- once when i was doing the pinning-down work on another subject, she kind of faded out, & i could sense/almost see her group/hive? around her [helping her come up w/an acceptable response, i think]

she has also tried to justify abductions, saying that they do this to make sure our health is good -- i told her that they weren't doing a very good job then, because i, in common w/many women abductees, suffer from great pain & major fatigue at times

once i asked her point-blank if she is connected to the reptilians here -- she said Yes -- our last two talks -- one was before the Gulf oil attack, & one after -- both times the theme of her conversations was her concern for the Earth -- in our last talk, she told me in a gentle kind voice that 'we' [her people & i presume the reptilians] are not responsible for what is being done to Earth' --she said, 'We didn't invent Clorox & Round-Up' -- i disagree w/this statement, & have not talked w/her since -- i don't feel that her concern for Earth is genuine, but that her controllers [she told me that all walk-ins have 'Watchers'] know that i do care, very much

my real problem w/her is the nature of her walking-in -- the original human committed suicide by taking a massive dose of pills & drinking a bottle plus some of another of vodka, & she [my grey clone kind of friend] walked in then -- she has told me this story several times, always, it seems to me, trying to convince me that this was ok -- but never has she said that there was an agreement between her & the outgoing suiciding soul, & she has evaded answering my questions re what happened to the original human soul in the body -- i have a very uneasy feeling that more of this kind of walking-in is going on at a stepped-up pace right now

re my being a walk-in [i am having that feeling of overriding programming to write about this on a public forum, as i did when writing, at first in my journal & then on a forum, about the abduction during which i fought to stay conscious -- there was a lot of payback for writing about the abduction -- i sure hope there won't be any following this post] : another big theme in our first phone talks was her trying to convince me that i am a Draco [another grey clone kind of friend in my past once asked me respectfully if i were a reptilian] -- i think that this body i am in has a fair share of Draco DNA, & this explains the recruitment attempts -- Tom of Montalk.net told me that the reptilians feel they own all those w/their DNA

my own reasons for thinking i am a walk-in, other than the literally hours & hours i have spent all my life looking up at the skies & yearning for something that was never clear to me -- just a lost & yearning feeling: family photos show that up until about 2 yrs of age, i had bright blonde hair & blue eyes w/the kind of mad gleam in them that my blond blue-eyed biological brother has [who began to shapeshift in front of me when i made him angry -- he then dashed off & turned off the electricity in the house -- no lights] --after 2 yrs, my eyes changed to their present green & my hair to jet black [fading & silvering a bit now] -- & i always had an odd feeling when looking at the up-to-2-yrs photos, like that baby/toddler was not me

i had an extremely abusive childhood & adolescence -- after telling my mother of memories returning of one part of the abuse, my entire biological family cut me off [a good thing] -- in one of my last conversations w/my biological mother, she told me that at around 2 yrs of age i had an 'autistic episode' during which i did nothing but sit on the floor, holding myself & rocking, staring out the window up at the sky -- because of all the messing around w/my mind, especially during my sleep, since that abduction, i am very suspicious of images & all else that comes into my mind -- but i believe that the AA Big Book statement is true, that if a spiritual [OD] experience is real, it will stay w/you, & the following experiences have stayed w/me as what feel like true memories

i'd completely forgotten my bio mother telling me about the 'autistic episode' until last year -- one day i decided that i was going to lie down, pray for protection, & ask to remember what caused it -- almost immediately i saw 'myself' in the bathtub at that age [2 yrs] -- my bio father came in -- both parents had been drinking [to their credit, they both stopped drinking after that, while their children were growing up] -- there was an act of violation of 'my' body by him -- but what caused the autistic thing was that behind the father, the original soul saw a huge reptilian, enjoying what was happening --

i can't remember if the following came spontaneously or if i did the same praying & asking -- but i remember this: i was in a place that i call SummerLand -- i think this is where the souls of children who have been traumatized out of their bodies go -- maybe where at least some of the souls of those poor children who have been forced into MKUltra kinds of programs go [i hope] -- a place of trees & flowers & little streams & gentle breezes, where all around, protecting & guarding the souls of the little ones, were beings of Light -- it wasn't till several months later that i realized that i was seeing this from the p.o.v. of one of the Light beings -- i & some others were all focusing on the soul who had been in the body i was apparently preparing to enter

i think that , had i not come in -- volunteered to walk-in -- to her body, that she, the original soul, would have had to come back herself, but completely emotionally & probably spiritually broken, into a rather cruel family, one w/no sympathy for the weak, & that her life w/them would have been even more hellish than my own

i had a very strong reaction to that video about wanderers -- crying, & some of the phrases & images in it are ones that i use/have seen , in dreams & waking -- so one day i did the lying down/praying/asking for who i am , where i come from, & that question i've been asking for the last 20 yrs at least: 'WHERE ARE MY PEOPLE?' -- again, almost immediately, i saw my home planet being completely destroyed in some galactic war, by reptilians -- i saw that there were few survivors, & that we were scattered thruout the Universe -- i think there are a few others on Earth, as a few times in my life, different places i have lived, i could feel very strongly someone nearby [maybe 40-50 mile radius] whose vibrations were completely harmonious w/mine, & that there were forces at work to keep us from meeting each other [maybe one or some of you have also found your way here, to PA]

this has been a very lonely life -- especially lately -- sometimes i think that if i have to listen to one more human telling me about their meds, or about their relationship [which used to be called love affairs], or about some stupid show on tv, i'm going to lose it -- it wasn't till i was around 40 that i understood that many humans really did think that money & possessions were all-important -- up till then i'd kind of thought this was just a game everyone was playing, & that some day we'd all laugh about this together - i continue to be stunned & astounded learning how humans think

what has made it bearable is that, in the last 20 yrs especially, the Indigo kids [beware -- some of these new kids are not here for benevolent purposes] seem to seek me out -- like, sometimes i'll be sitting in a park or wherever in town, & one of them will find me & talk to me for a while -- this always gives me strength to go on

some yrs back a young friend asked me if i'd let a friend of his who had unexpectedly visited, to let him stay in my ap't that night, because he [my friend] had just started a passionate new love affair -- i said ok -- i had just recently bought David Icke's 'Children of the Matrix' & started talking to the visiting young man about this -- he had recently had an affair w/an older woman who was reptilian & told him he was one [he had a tattoo of a rep on his leg] -- [also this was the second young man i'd talked to who'd had a similar affair] -- long story short, he later told our mutual friend that i 'had told him where it's at' [i sent him back to his university w/that copy of David's book]-- & at one point in our long conversation that night, he kept on asking me, 'Then who are you? Who are YOU?' -- i could not answer, but i think now the answer is 'i am a wanderer who walked-in here on Earth to try to help the humans' -- as this body was born in '47 & i walked in in '49 or '50, that would make me first wave

i hope this has not been too long & boring -- i wrote at such length because maybe something will stir up someone else's memories -- i am certain that one of the implants in my head, on the right side, is there to block communication from my ET friends out there [who i think are from different ET races] -- i think also that many walk-ins of the Light have had their memories/communication blocked --

i agree w/Dim, that just by being here [enduring it], we are helping -- to the person dealing w/thoughts of suicide [i should have checked your name before this post -- i'm sorry]-- there's an article on Stephanie & Michael Relfe's site -- Metatech? Megatech? -- re programming to commit suicide if one begins to wake up

i am daring to hope that i have found some of us here on PA

Peace & Freedom, & Blessings to you all, wynderer

[Agape]

This song/poem came to me 'somewhere from space' about 3 years ago on my birthday and I've dedicated it to my dearest friend but hope it gives sense to someone else here as well ...



For love we are born for love we die,
oh no my heart you do not cry,
it is the stars silent song.

Under the shiny rain of light,
i'm not more than firefly,
my life is not too long.

Over the mountains eagle flies,
echo between the rocks tells lies,
the neverending gong.

My home is lost my wisdom found,
empty are tombs of underground,
thanks from the fairy-land ...

For good we're born for good we die,
for what we know not for that we cry,
may you find happyend...




[/quote]

I've been struggling as much with my mission past few years as well and there were times when human existence felt so agonizing and painful to me that I would rather give up on everything ,

but ...I didn't because Life is miracle , life is Love , and our missions have greater meaning

On the subject of sleep and fatigue I'd have much to say,

especially since the Bodhgaya Encounter , I was full of energy still that time and year or two later I had to fight with myself over everything,

even to make my coffee at times , simple walks to town I always enjoyed finished me for the day,

I had to learn to schedule my activities such a way that I'm able to have basic things done .

My mind is very active while at the same time the human physical vessel is shamefully fatigued and I could do with spending my days on sofa at the best.

One of the things I found about need of good deep sleep that I've probably lost at some point and I'm not sure it's physiological or psychological matter is that even if we sleep 8 hours ( I don't usually ) the phase of non-REM sleep that's the one without dreams is terribly important for rejuvenation of the body and mind ,
it's the one where you really forget yourself and everything and then wake up like newborn.

I remember I had lots of such a good sleep as kid and it always did me good but with lots of meditation practise in the last 6 years in India and with several ET experiences at night especially the Bodhgaya Encounter ,

my mind was probably tuned to keep 'on alerts' all the time, I learned to half sleep- half wake and mornings was always still bit tired.

Rarely now , when I'm very relaxed and feel internally safe, connected to someone , loved and feel 'all is ok' and happen to experience period of the very deep sleep at night , I wake up morning really surprised with the same flux of fresh energy I felt as child and I'm extremely thankful that ' I did it ' lol


Hope that little observation helps some of you here too and I'd like to hear if you have similar experience perhaps ?

:grouphug:

[LeeEllisMusic]

Chris, and others,

The feeling of tiredness and other symptoms remind me of this great link - I think someone may have posted it on Avalon, somewhere~
It's about symptoms of Ascension connected with 2012, but it seems to me a useful list of symptoms and SOLUTIONS! :)

http://timeofthesixthsun.com/index.php/6th-sun-guide/2012-toolkit


Also, someone mentioned "not being human" in one of the previous posts, and I have to say, that as of now, if you're in a body, you're human! LOL

Wherever we are from, we have all been around the cosmos many times, and are ORIGINALLY from the Great Sweet Ocean of Love and Peace that passes understanding...
As the Course in Miracles says so wisely, There really IS only ONE of us having this conversation :)

THat video of the call to the stardeeds was fabulous


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zJzh0w3DlU&feature=player_embedded

Remember in that clip, it talks about we who answer the call gettng our consciousness leap-frogged ahead along with Gaia and the rest of the souls here as well...
We - and everything - is evolving, no matter where we hang our cosmic hats - or THINK we do...

Interestingly, my partner and I talk about this a lot - the fact that I'm really not from around here< grin>, and he feels like he's been here forever, incarnating again and again. And he is very awake as well.

Bottom line for me, for us, is that we are HERE NOW, each with a piece of the purpose, doing what we do... following our hearts... making the journey together...

Does it really matter where we come from?
Yes, it helps to know WHY we have felt so isolated, special, outcast, wandering, wondering...
But, that said, We're here now and all taking an amazing ride together!
WOO HOO!!!!
It does feel like something wonderful is about to happen, doesn't it?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=891

[Celine]

*smiles warmly as she reads your words*

great post...thank you

[Astra]

This song/poem came to me 'somewhere from space' about 3 years ago on my birthday and I've dedicated it to my dearest friend but hope it gives sense to someone else here as well ...



For love we are born for love we die,
oh no my heart you do not cry,
it is the stars silent song.

Under the shiny rain of light,
i'm not more than firefly,
my life is not too long.

Over the mountains eagle flies,
echo between the rocks tells lies,
the neverending gong.

My home is lost my wisdom found,
empty are tombs of underground,
thanks from the fairy-land ...

For good we're born for good we die,
for what we know not for that we cry,
may you find happyend...





:grouphug:
You are such a beauty-full Being, Agape/Eva!
After reading your post, this is what came to mind:

***

Our Wondering Souls will find a lost Nest

While longing for Stars, endless Galaxies

And forgotten Universes waiting to be found again,

Merging and pulsating towards the Source,

in a Symphony of Original Love

I offer you my hand, thus becoming One!

***
I Love you all, and I do mean this. :wub:

Astra, nestled among the myriads of stars!

Illuminate, thank you for this thread!

[illuminate]

[i am having that feeling of overriding programming to write about this on a public forum, as i did when writing, at first in my journal & then on a forum, about the abduction during which i fought to stay conscious -- there was a lot of payback for writing about the abduction -- i sure hope there won't be any following this post]

You won't find that here! This thread is for sharing and connecting only. No judgments, debates or debunking.


i hope this has not been too long & boring -- i wrote at such length because maybe something will stir up someone else's memories --


Thank YOU Wynderer!
Long and boring you ask?? NOT a chance, reading your words felt like years of therapy for me!!!
When you share from the heart it helps to heal others. Really thank you, I could relate to all you said!


i am daring to hope that i have found some of us here on PA


I think we have!!
I have really always felt that was what was going on here, at Avalon,
kinda like a gathering / meeting place.
Thank you Bill!

(Beautiful words Eva and Astra!!)

:love:

[rhythm]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/454148706_f41c5cf437.jpg
for all of you
just felt moved :hug:

[wynderer]

back atcha, rhythm!

illuminate -- thank you for your loving words-- the payback came from the reptilians, i think -- poverty, psychic attacks, a stream of people involved in the darkside barging into my life -- that sort of thing

[illuminate]

the payback came from the reptilians, i think -- poverty, psychic attacks, a stream of people involved in the darkside barging into my life -- that sort of thing

Oh how I am all too familiar with that!
I have had a lifetime of "darkness" knocking at my door and many times
breaking it down.... BUT, the very good news is that we, each of us here, have all the power within
to stop this sort of thing. This I do know for sure!


It does feel like something wonderful is about to happen, doesn't it?

YES, it really does!

:love:

[Snowbird]

rhythm, what a great collage!! :cool2:

[Snowbird]

Thanks to everyone for being so forthcoming.
For me, the absolute worst part is the loneliness!! I have been so utterly lonely my
whole life. I had many serious relationships, many friends and at times, very social...
but the loneliness was always there.

It doesn't really matter to me if I'm alien or human or something else.
I don't need a label to feel good about myself. What does help is knowing that there
are others who feel the same way. Look at how many of us have feel the same way!
How wonderful this is to know WE ARE NOT ALONE and to support and love one another.

My awakening (to this topic specifically) has been rather abrupt and a bit unsettling.
I've had a series of experiences that come right out of the Twilight Zone and have left
me questioning my sanity. If it hadn't been for a forum member reaching out to me and
acting as an anchor, I am unsure where I'd be right now. (THANK YOU!)

The loneliness and questioning my sanity are the only two things that keep me from doing
what I came here to do. This is the main reason for starting this thread... so that we can
know we are not alone, that we are indeed very sane and that we can serve as anchors
for each other.

With love! :love:

I used to wonder why I was and am so very different. Friends, family and myself have taken completely diverse paths and they cannot figure out why I spend so much of my time outside of their presence. It is because it is my absolute preference. The one truly unusual aspect about myself that to me, has been blaring, is the fact that I have never been close to anyone the entire time during this incarnation. I have never considered myself to be inferior or superior. I just AM. I would much rather be in the presence of animals or small children. The big people I can take or leave and do just that.

The one thing that really bothers me about this volunteer calling is the not knowing from where I stem. I do not appreciate this and cannot reconcile this concept with true growth. Although I am awake, I don't remember. This is perhaps because we have incarnated into human form this go-around and if we knew that we come from a home base that is populated with giant bugs, aquatic creatures, reptilians or very tall and skinny beings, it would probably be far more difficult. I've often wondered if we each have a true home base or is the universe our home base? I don't know.

[Snowbird]

Lee Ellis, the Time of the Sixth Sun site is wonderful! I've bookmarked it. Thanks for posting it.

[mike1414]

great thread..many thanks to all contributors and op for creating it...

this stuff really interests me and i am not into labelling whatsoever, yet understand the need for doing so in such clarifying instances...

i can only tell you what i believe i am and how it affects my experience of this life and reality...

i smile and laugh a lot and always see the good things in a situation...however not ignorant to the devastation and turmoil many souls and earth herself endure for if i think or try to wrap my head around reasoning for some horrendous traumas which we hear about occurring at this time i end up becoming so filled with what i can only describe as love it hits me so deeply im usually brought to tears and laughter with absolute undeniable knowingness of what is happening is happening bcos it is meant to at this time.
that feeling of just knowing what is right or not (for me) is so pure and strong it overides all natural thought processes when discerning something, whatever the situation may be.
i am painfully compassionate and empathetic to the point where it use to affect me and my interaction with other people however i am always learning to deal with these parts of who i am.
i am unequivocally patient....especially with animals and children.
i love life and seeing people happy....making others happy makes me happy, making others laugh and smile makes me happy...
i love the stars and the sky and everything naturally around us....however i feel so at home on earth and my love for her runs through me no end... i am the earth

combined with this...there is a knowing which dwells inside which instills such a strong notion of 'everything is ok'

now dont get me wrong, i am not some little pushover who loves hugging trees (however whilst on the subject if u havent actually hugged a tree, i suggest u do, no really....alternatively lie underneath one and look up...it can be magical!) anyway, i am a physical guy who loves the outdoors and am very reluctant to be intimidated by anyone and indeed have a big urge to protect any being who seems to be in such a situation where one is being intimidated or threatened...

there seems to be an understanding within me which i havent learnt or been told where i know i am such a good soul. i want what is right for everyone and everything...which more often than not leads me to leave others to continue on their own path for intervention on my behalf will hinder their experential knowledge at and for this time. tough love-esque (imo)

synchronicities appear more and more often for me, not just numbers and physical signs, but people, places, my experiences....and the coincidentality (is that a word?!) of it is so that it stretches beyond coincidence and into another realm of orchestration and/or deliberation.

i dont believe in life after death, i know it to be true
i dont believe love will conquer the unwise, i know we will

i apologise if this is more of a bio about myself and not about the said groups yet i just wanted to try to explain that my experience of this life, myself and the outlook i have is far different from most of the people i grew up with and i know physically i am not all that different however on every other level i know i am. this is the interesting part for me.

the importance of today is the realisation that it is infact, all about today

be happy

peace always
mike

[Decibellistics]

Does anyone have an idea on the concept of love for another individual. Like the idea of being "alone" due to the fact that the chance to find another human you can relate to is far and few between considering the circumstances based on one's own perception of reality, the nature of it, and the purpose of being alive on the planet at this moment. Like having no children in a sense, but more due to borderline sheer impossibility?

Probably more due to the fact that I'm young as hell still and a sucker for the concept. hahahahaha.

[Agape]

It would be pretty boss to have a meeting lol I agree illuminate though I'd be willing to bet half of us are poor as hell hahaha.

We'll need spaceship . It won't cost anything but need to make sure that they switch missile systems off .

:becky:

[Decibellistics]

haha right. let me make a "phone call". I think I re-read the post wrong too whoops!

[Celine]

money is a tool...like any other tool..it has to be used properly.

for me personaly..i feel PA is a great place to gather...

The cover charge is real cheap ;)

[Luke]

money is a tool...like any other tool..it has to be used properly.

for me personaly..i feel PA is a great place to gather...

The cover charge is real cheap ;)
+1 :thumb:
Our "dreams" have effect on reality, the more coherent we get, the more visible the effect will be, the more opportunities will open.
This system is based on fear induced in us, that prevents us from seeing the whole picture, and changing it.
Stop dreaming their dreams.

We'll need spaceship
:madgrin:
Love to have golden one, but black will do :)

[pilotsimone]

i can't remember if the following came spontaneously or if i did the same praying & asking -- but i remember this: i was in a place that i call SummerLand -- i think this is where the souls of children who have been traumatized out of their bodies go -- maybe where at least some of the souls of those poor children who have been forced into MKUltra kinds of programs go [i hope] -- a place of trees & flowers & little streams & gentle breezes, where all around, protecting & guarding the souls of the little ones, were beings of Light -- it wasn't till several months later that i realized that i was seeing this from the p.o.v. of one of the Light beings -- i & some others were all focusing on the soul who had been in the body i was apparently preparing to enter


I think I have been here. I took a journey in mid-June and was allowed to go here. You can read about my experience HERE. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3200-My-spiritual-experience-on-June-15) It was a place I knew well. Very familiar. I knew it to be a place children go during trauma (that was my impression) and I'm so incredibly thankful it exists.

Your message was so powerful, I feel a bit overwhelmed by it. Thank you for opening up and sharing. I would like to ditto all of Illuminate's words to you.

We are finding each other. :)

I love all of you so much!

[Agape]

Actually I was on the way to share a little story and to state something useful at this place if I'm allowed .

The identity paradigm.. questioned here, so personal to those who feel or even know that they're 'other' than human and how to recognize ..

Humans ( as you know perhaps or not I'm expanding on their ET origins down in the thread ) and extraterrestrials of any variety ( there are certainly few different kinds of them present on earth ) residing in human bodies share not only similar human experiences but also , may or may not share similar views and feelings on various earthly and other phenomena , why, because we all come from the same intelligent Source , originally and intelligence , whatever it means, is based on logical discrimination and ability to observe and decode reality similar way on every particular level/dimmension of existence.

But, in a case of ETs embodied , there is always difference. It's like having two different mind sets to your disposal, one is the 'natural yourself' and in a case that it is by any chance ET, your perception of time and space and reality will be distinctly different from whatever you were taught in human world but it will be palpably organised.

Bringing 'out' your ET personality and knowledge, to the light and being able to share it , even discretely, is more often very hard job because very few people welcome the idea as there's almost no knowledge on ET intelligencies they could base their judgements upon,
so unless you're exhibiting some really amazing features , only those who love you and know you well and whom you actually allow to come real close, in peace and be attentive ,
that part of us, our identity or knowledge usually hides in the smallest corner of our human carrier.

Now the most intriguing question comes around...why on earth, anyone sane and aware of state of this society would come out openly , and state he's non human ?

Unless you have a reason ?


Feelings of mission, of being 'eternal pilgrim', searching for home, fears of society, isolation and lonliness, longing for Stars and freedom from human suffering as well as all array of other feelings are , in my opinion, common for advanced human beings and ETs alike.

My human mum has those, lots of my friends do, I'd say most people do but some with exceptional knowledge or abilities, often feel 'out of society', out of the 'mainstream', for whatever reason,
and they may be exceptionally wise and educated , inspiring, creative, or other , original and unique,
but humans and what's wrong with that . Not a thing. Some humans are simply quite exceptional and very advanced on their path.


Not that I want to stirr the debate , but I've met lots of people of many varieties in my life and :

it is usually easy to recognize sooner or later, if a person is :

lets say, mentally challenged, or a chronical lier or someone living in day dreams or someone accepting any suitable idea on what he and this world is about

or else. There are too many possibilities ...human beings are not one like the other and that's unique about them too .


I think, that most of ETs who live as human beings in order to accomplish some mission known to them alone are being discrete about it,
but : If you question them gently and directly, you will notice sparkle in their eyes , light shining through them and silent chuckle and they won't be able to say 'no' to you,
unless you're argumentative, aggressive and making fun.

Consider they're usually more intelligent than humans you know and you have nothing to hide away from them, your intentions, feelings and the very reason of your meeting,
it may be a riddle for them too but very readable riddle .


I better keep the story for another time...I think, there's lots of time and space here, I hope there is ..


What I intended to say...anyone intelligent, human or ET, coming out with ET story and claiming his identity to be non human, is in danger of being given some kind of 'diagnose' or simply laughed off.

Even to live with such an alternative awareness might pose a risk to the person himself, even if never proclaimed openly .

In another words, 'Temet Nosce' , know thyself and be free , whoever you are , try to find out.

There's thin line between realities , there's reality..


This from my heart of this thread to the other hearts ..who are just watching , scratching their heads ..


Thankyou and lots of Love

:grouphug:

[pilotsimone]

I just had a vision of us all meeting in person. No one could even speak, everyone was crying so hard. It made me cry, then it made me laugh! :) We are so fortunate to be where we are right now.

[kriya]

I just had a vision of us all meeting in person. No one could even speak, everyone was crying so hard. It made me cry, then it made me laugh! :) We are so fortunate to be where we are right now.

We are a sensitive bunch:love:

:grouphug:

Love,

Kriya

[jack]

Does anyone have an idea on the concept of love for another individual. Like the idea of being "alone" due to the fact that the chance to find another human you can relate to is far and few between considering the circumstances based on one's own perception of reality, the nature of it, and the purpose of being alive on the planet at this moment. Like having no children in a sense, but more due to borderline sheer impossibility?

Probably more due to the fact that I'm young as hell still and a sucker for the concept. hahahahaha.

Reality is the spice of life. ;) Its in others that we learn the most about ourselves, And if we were to only love those who were like us, then we would fail to grow and expand which is the very nature of our existance on this planet. Love everything and everyone, unconditionally, and you will soon find that sense of "aloneness" drifting into the backround of non-existance, because there is no such thing as being alone. We just fail to recognise the life that surrounds us every moment of every day.

I'm dating a girl who could not be more different then myself in regards to her knowledge of the world we live in.

But she laughs. I laugh
She crys. I cry
She gets angry. I get angry
She loves. I love

Its enough in common to keep me happy :) Look beyond someones knowledge and fall in love with their spirit. Knowledge will always be temporary, where spirit is infinite

[wynderer]

here is the video i mentioned:' Walk-Ins: The Wandering Souls'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIEAr9PPSrQ

[this video may well bring on more crying -- lol to Kriya's 'sensitive bunch']

dear Pilotsimone & others here -- maybe we already know each other from when we are out of our bodies -- i'm going to read your story now -- it is always so heartening to learn that others share our experiences --thank you

[Anchor]

i have reasons to think that i am a walk-in & a wanderer --

I understand a walk-in is when one soul leaves a physical body and another, almost immediately, takes its place. The original soul is required to vacate the body of its own freewill (however this can look otherwise when seen from the perspective of us here behind the veil).

I think it is quite possible to be a wanderer and a walkin. I would suspect it is common in fact. However, the thing that would usually mark out the walk-in from a wanders is that the wanderer goes through the birth experience, the walk-in requires the vacation of an already born body - in often quite seeminly harsh or tragic experiences (NDE's, car crashes, unconciousness, coma etc).

A wanderer is someone who has incarnated for reasons other than simply the need to experience 3D expression as part of thier spiritual evolution - wanderers have passed those phases already. It is common for wanderers to be doing for reasons of service to others in an effort to help. The reason wanders are so useful on Earth is the potential for bringing in a lot of hard won wisdom from their long experience. However, the problem is they forget the bloody stuff and have to go about a tedious, confusing, frustrating and often lonely experience of remembering it all again :D

John..

[Anchor]

What's not usually clear enough is the fact that a wanderer - starseed - walk in
whatever the case may be is already fulfilling its purpose by just being here,

There is no doubt about this, that is the baseline of achievement.

However, so much more is possible.

Yes - our ministry here is vibrational in nature, all you have to do is just be here now.

However, when that inner voice tells you, for example: to give a guy in the street $5, just do it.

If you can shine some light to help others find a way, it doesnt hurt to try.

John..

[Steven]

To be honest, I don't know where I fit in these wave of souls presented by Miss Cannon. I've listen to her presentation and was really captivated. All I know is that I got a spirit inside that tells me not wasting one seconds to make Heaven on Earth. So, I follow up as best as I can.

Namaste, Steven

[pilotsimone]

I'm pretty sure I'm a second-waver...and fairly confident I'm not a walk-in. I've always felt I put myself in the most comfortable position this incarnation. I've led a very low-drama life, very conservative-acting family that surrounded me. No religion. A very supportive family, even though it was nearly impossible to connect with them. No controls issues with parents to contend with. I've always told my husband I chose the cushy-est route possible because I knew it was going to be a rough ride. I am an empath and I feel I had one of the best possible environments in which to grow.

I can appreciate how hard it was for those who did not get a cushy environment in which to grow. :( I don't know how I would have handled that. What courage!

Blessings to all!

[illuminate]

Bits and pieces I picked up while surfing...


Want to know the easiest way to tell who is a Wanderer? Simply ask who's worrying about
"finding my purpose on Earth."

And this is exactly the mind of a true server:
giving what's needed just where it's needed, with no thought of a personal agenda



Walk-ins, Wanderers, Cosmic People, Starseeds, Seeded, etc.: these are all words that essentially mean the same thing, with a few minor differences. The meaning that is being referried to is: an alien soul in a human body. That's it… that's all you really need to know.

Now, as to some of the differences you may consider knowing about. Some of these souls choose to be "born" into the host body, some walk into the host body. Some have absolutely no idea who or what they truly are (until the proper time), some have some idea who or what they really are, and some come in with a "knowingness" of who or what they really are. Some "wake up" early in life, and some "wake up" late in life. Some are here for the planet and some are here for humanity, and then again some are here for both or even some of the other life forms here. Some of us are here for the very first time, and some have had many past lives on this planet. None of these differences will prevent them from finding each other, whenever given the chance to do so. Many have already received their wake-up calls by now, and are doing their best to come together in their common purposes.

They do tend to recognize each other, whether they remember seeing them onboard a craft, from a past life,
or some sort of recognition they can not possibly explain.


Wanderers come to Earth to simply offer love and light--
freely, openly, without consideration as to what should or should not be.

At the levels of awareness from which cosmic souls emerge before their veiling, the great probability of rendering useful service to the planet and to humanity is quite enough to merit the hazards and trials of direct incarnation (which is like parachuting into hostile territory, armed only with kindness).

So what is the grand purpose for which you are here, an unknown visitor from realms beyond conception?
Just be kind and helpful.

Esoterically, the radiatory effect of life and light is far more profound than we might imagine. Why is it that great yogis, adepts, and masters of the East stay in their caves, when they profess such universal compassion? Simply because they know how to consciously radiate higher energies by mind, and they understand how thought influences physical reality.

Serving the world, a task which seems to imply such onerous burden,
really depends on the way we live each day.


There are two main types of extraterrestrials who incarnate on Earth, Wanderers and Walk-ins. Wanderers are E.T.s right from the beginning, although they're born of human parents, just like the rest of us.

Their awakening almost always comes gradually and follows a long period of loneliness and severe alienation. And although this transformation dawns slowly, afterward any deep desperation is lifted and it seems like the final link in a long chain has finally appeared. Wanderers often feel as though they're discovering something they've actually always known - a new vision of a very old truth…

Some of the Wanderers describe the process in terms of an "unveiling" as they learn to accept the identity
of a person living on Earth who has nonhuman origins. As you might guess, this can be very difficult.

The term Wanderer appears in a number of popular books on the subject. The RA Material one of the more sophisticated authorities on E.T.-related spiritual matters - speaks of Wanderers at length. A Wanderer is defined as any E.T. who, while coming from another world, is as ordinary as anyone else in mind and body after birth. Only with extensive spiritual effort can they realize their true identity - that they are E.T. souls.

Most important: A Wanderer is an E.T. who volunteers to incarnate on a planet with the desire to help those who are evolving there.

Acute crisis, however, is almost always the experience of the other type of E.T., the Walk-in.
Actually, Walk-in is a very accurate term. It indicated that an entity (E.T. or otherwise, although in my study I only interviewed E.T. souls) has done just that: "walked-in" to a person's body and mind with shocking suddenness. Or, as some describe it, it's as though one experiences a wrenching and unexpected soul-exchange or soul transfer. Please bear I mind this has nothing to do with spirit possession or obsessing entities. It is considered a completely voluntary process.

The term Walk-in was introduced to the general public by Ruth Montgomery in her 1979 book Strangers Among Us. She defined a Walk-in as: a high-minded entity who is permitted to take over the body of another human being who wishes to depart… 
The motivation for a walk-in is humanitarian… [He or She] first completes the tasks of the body's previous owner, and then goes on to do what he must do on his own projects…

:love:

[monique]

first wave

illuminate, thank you very much for this thread

good sunday for all

:wave: monique

[CetaceousOne]

after 2 yrs, my eyes changed to their present green

When I was younger, I would tell people that my eyes used to be blue.... ;)




I can appreciate how hard it was for those who did not get a cushy environment in which to grow.

You're telling me! Sometimes I wonder what I was thinking choosing the life circumstances that I have had ......:eek:

[john.d]

I recomemend this for a read if you are a wanderer , its a book called 'servers of the divine plan' :

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ss4jViJJE7QC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_v2_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=true

John

[illuminate]

Actually I was on the way to share a little story and to state something useful at this place if I'm allowed .

The identity paradigm.. questioned here, so personal to those who feel or even know that they're 'other' than human and how to recognize ..

Humans ( as you know perhaps or not I'm expanding on their ET origins down in the thread ) and extraterrestrials of any variety ( there are certainly few different kinds of them present on earth ) residing in human bodies share not only similar human experiences but also , may or may not share similar views and feelings on various earthly and other phenomena , why, because we all come from the same intelligent Source , originally and intelligence , whatever it means, is based on logical discrimination and ability to observe and decode reality similar way on every particular level/dimmension of existence.

But, in a case of ETs embodied , there is always difference. It's like having two different mind sets to your disposal, one is the 'natural yourself' and in a case that it is by any chance ET, your perception of time and space and reality will be distinctly different from whatever you were taught in human world but it will be palpably organised.

Bringing 'out' your ET personality and knowledge, to the light and being able to share it , even discretely, is more often very hard job because very few people welcome the idea as there's almost no knowledge on ET intelligencies they could base their judgements upon,
so unless you're exhibiting some really amazing features , only those who love you and know you well and whom you actually allow to come real close, in peace and be attentive ,
that part of us, our identity or knowledge usually hides in the smallest corner of our human carrier.

Now the most intriguing question comes around...why on earth, anyone sane and aware of state of this society would come out openly , and state he's non human ?

Unless you have a reason ?


Feelings of mission, of being 'eternal pilgrim', searching for home, fears of society, isolation and lonliness, longing for Stars and freedom from human suffering as well as all array of other feelings are , in my opinion, common for advanced human beings and ETs alike.

My human mum has those, lots of my friends do, I'd say most people do but some with exceptional knowledge or abilities, often feel 'out of society', out of the 'mainstream', for whatever reason,
and they may be exceptionally wise and educated , inspiring, creative, or other , original and unique,
but humans and what's wrong with that . Not a thing. Some humans are simply quite exceptional and very advanced on their path.


Not that I want to stirr the debate , but I've met lots of people of many varieties in my life and :

it is usually easy to recognize sooner or later, if a person is :

lets say, mentally challenged, or a chronical lier or someone living in day dreams or someone accepting any suitable idea on what he and this world is about

or else. There are too many possibilities ...human beings are not one like the other and that's unique about them too .


I think, that most of ETs who live as human beings in order to accomplish some mission known to them alone are being discrete about it,
but : If you question them gently and directly, you will notice sparkle in their eyes , light shining through them and silent chuckle and they won't be able to say 'no' to you,
unless you're argumentative, aggressive and making fun.

Consider they're usually more intelligent than humans you know and you have nothing to hide away from them, your intentions, feelings and the very reason of your meeting,
it may be a riddle for them too but very readable riddle .


I better keep the story for another time...I think, there's lots of time and space here, I hope there is ..


What I intended to say...anyone intelligent, human or ET, coming out with ET story and claiming his identity to be non human, is in danger of being given some kind of 'diagnose' or simply laughed off.

Even to live with such an alternative awareness might pose a risk to the person himself, even if never proclaimed openly .

In another words, 'Temet Nosce' , know thyself and be free , whoever you are , try to find out.

There's thin line between realities , there's reality..


This from my heart of this thread to the other hearts ..who are just watching , scratching their heads ..


Thankyou and lots of Love

:grouphug:

Thank YOU very much for this Eva! ... I hope you can feel that there is a lot of love for you here :love: :panda:



i smile and laugh a lot and always see the good things in a situation...however not ignorant to the devastation and turmoil many souls and earth herself endure for if i think or try to wrap my head around reasoning for some horrendous traumas which we hear about occurring at this time i end up becoming so filled with what i can only describe as love it hits me so deeply im usually brought to tears and laughter with absolute undeniable knowingness of what is happening is happening bcos it is meant to at this time.

that feeling of just knowing what is right or not (for me) is so pure and strong it overides all natural thought processes when discerning something, whatever the situation may be.
i am painfully compassionate and empathetic to the point where it use to affect me and my interaction with other people however i am always learning to deal with these parts of who i am.
i am unequivocally patient....especially with animals and children.

i love life and seeing people happy....making others happy makes me happy, making others laugh and smile makes me happy...

i love the stars and the sky and everything naturally around us....however i feel so at home on earth and my love for her runs through me no end... i am the earth


DITTO :love:

Thanks to ALL OF YOU for these excellent contributions... keep em coming!!
And as soon as anyone can find their ship... swing by and pick us all up so we can really have some fun!

With love.

[LeeEllisMusic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4JPx0eZdJQ&feature=related


Also, Don't forget to meditate and Visualize TODAY~

The Total Solar Eclipse on July 11th

will intensify The Energy of the Grand Cross even more than the Lunar Eclipse!

For those among you capable of maintaining serenity in this robustly pulsing energy,

Opportunities of great vision and creative manifestation are very possible.

Masters, use this time to visualize the positive desires of your heart, in micro and macro.

At the base of these potentials of great transformation is the requisite to maintain emotional & auric stability

As this powerful energy bathes the Earth. The energy is extremely intense."




Do not waste this opportunity to Manifest what you want in your life as well as what you want for our beloved Mother Gaia, Mother Nature

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=887

[illuminate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4JPx0eZdJQ&feature=related


Also, Don't forget to meditate and Visualize TODAY~

The Total Solar Eclipse on July 11th

will intensify The Energy of the Grand Cross even more than the Lunar Eclipse!

For those among you capable of maintaining serenity in this robustly pulsing energy,

Opportunities of great vision and creative manifestation are very possible.

Masters, use this time to visualize the positive desires of your heart, in micro and macro.

At the base of these potentials of great transformation is the requisite to maintain emotional & auric stability

As this powerful energy bathes the Earth. The energy is extremely intense."




Do not waste this opportunity to Manifest what you want in your life as well as what you want for our beloved Mother Gaia, Mother Nature

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=887

Thank you Lee!

For the time and path of the eclipse, it will begin at 2:15 p.m. Eastern Time north of New Zealand near the Cook Islands. It will then continue to pass Easter Island and will end in Chile at the southernmost tip of South America at 4:52 p.m. Eastern Time. In addition, this solar eclipse will last the longest for 5 minutes 20 seconds over open Pacific waters at 3:33 p.m. Eastern Time.

:love:

[Beth]

There's that 333 again, LOL!

[Kulapops]

Yep... I'm not from around these parts. Christ... I don't even fit in at Avalon !!!

:0)

But we'll all get it sooner or later.

Last one to fit in is out !

K xx

[wynderer]

Now the most intriguing question comes around...why on earth, anyone sane and aware of state of this society would come out openly , and state he's non human ?

Unless you have a reason ?


Feelings of mission, of being 'eternal pilgrim', searching for home, fears of society, isolation and lonliness, longing for Stars and freedom from human suffering as well as all array of other feelings are , in my opinion, common for advanced human beings and ETs alike.

My human mum has those, lots of my friends do, I'd say most people do but some with exceptional knowledge or abilities, often feel 'out of society', out of the 'mainstream', for whatever reason,
and they may be exceptionally wise and educated , inspiring, creative, or other , original and unique,
but humans and what's wrong with that . Not a thing. Some humans are simply quite exceptional and very advanced on their path.


Not that I want to stirr the debate , but I've met lots of people of many varieties in my life and :

it is usually easy to recognize sooner or later, if a person is :

lets say, mentally challenged, or a chronical lier or someone living in day dreams or someone accepting any suitable idea on what he and this world is about

or else. There are too many possibilities ...human beings are not one like the other and that's unique about them too .


I think, that most of ETs who live as human beings in order to accomplish some mission known to them alone are being discrete about it,
but : If you question them gently and directly, you will notice sparkle in their eyes , light shining through them and silent chuckle and they won't be able to say 'no' to you,
unless you're argumentative, aggressive and making fun.

Consider they're usually more intelligent than humans you know and you have nothing to hide away from them, your intentions, feelings and the very reason of your meeting,
it may be a riddle for them too but very readable riddle .


I better keep the story for another time...I think, there's lots of time and space here, I hope there is ..


What I intended to say...anyone intelligent, human or ET, coming out with ET story and claiming his identity to be non human, is in danger of being given some kind of 'diagnose' or simply laughed off.

Even to live with such an alternative awareness might pose a risk to the person himself, even if never proclaimed openly .

In another words, 'Temet Nosce' , know thyself and be free , whoever you are , try to find out.

There's thin line between realities , there's reality..


This from my heart of this thread to the other hearts ..who are just watching , scratching their heads ..


Thankyou and lots of Love

:grouphug:

Agape -- some good questions here, & ones which i have asked myself -- like the questioning my sanity part -- i had prior good practice on that part after that abduction when i fought very hard to & managed to stay conscious -- i've wondered if i'm just a frustrated sci-fi writer --

i don't really care what people think about me -- i talk to lots of humans about UFOs -- quite a lot have stories to share -- some may think i'm weird -- oh well... -- as to a diagnosis from a doctor: i did editorial proofreading for 5 yrs for one of the top med publishers in the USA, & that confirmed my desire to stay as far away from doctors & hospitals as possible -- especially w/the diagnoses they are coming up w/now -- i don't like meds, so why would i go to a doc anyway?

re being a wanderer/walk-in -- i've asked myself if i find living down here so difficult that i've imagined a whole fantasy identity for myself to make it bearable -- & if the memory/seeing of 'myself' in the tub when being traumatized -- i've wondered if i was having my personality/selfhood split, &, again, the wanderer walking in memories are ways to make the trauma experience acceptable to my mind

but there have been too many experiences in my life that seem to confirm this -- many very close sightings of different ships -- some NWO-made -- but not all --

there are many other events from my past -- too many to write here -- here's a small one: when living in Boulder, i found the people in that area, especially those from Denver, to be very open to the idea of ETs among us -- at 2 different times when living there, i met 2 different people, whose first words to me were 'What ship did you come in on?'

re the ETs here being discreet about who they are -- maybe some of the other walk-ins &/or wanderers here will also share their thoughts on that -- i think that because things are getting pretty hairy down here on Earth right now, it's time for us to find each other -- shared energies are stronger than those of one being, working alone -- i wrote about having to overcome programming/resistance in order to post in this thread

re the risk to self part by even being here but esp when talking about it -- i imagine most if not all of the other ETs here on PA have had some attention paid to them by mil intel in their lives -- my walk-in clone friend told me once, 'They want us dead' [the next time we talk, i'll pin her down on that one -- like why would they want [I] her dead, if her people are allied w/the reptilians here?] -- i know that i am already tracked -- & i refuse to live in fear anyway -- also the reptilians' plan of stripping my life of much that humans value has backfired on them, because i don't have much to lose -- except my life -- & i'm not that thrilled w/being here anyway

thanks for your post

[wynderer]

I just had a vision of us all meeting in person. No one could even speak, everyone was crying so hard. It made me cry, then it made me laugh! :) We are so fortunate to be where we are right now.

there have been so many posts that i want to reply to -- i am very tired right now, tho, so just wanted to share this: i think my ET walk-in friend from Oreeon [ she says that's where her people are from -- that's not a misspelling of Orion] is giving me truths mixed in w/non-truths -- she has told me that ALL ET walk-ins here are going to be picked up by our home ships soon [maybe this is one reason why the NWO is militarizing Earth's airspace?]

one of my favorite movies is John Sayle's 'Brother From Another Planet' -- i recently watched it again after 20 yrs & saw that i'd rewritten the ending in my head , & changed it to the ships taking away the brother & the other ETs gathered around him

thanks to Lee Ellis for your beautiful post -- energies seem to be high now

Peace & Freedom & Blessings to you all -- this whole thread is blowing my mind

wynderer

[Beth]

Nice post wynderer. I always like to think that when I question my sanity, that if I have the capacity to do so, it's likely I'm not insane. I would think that most that ARE delusional do not have the ability to question oneself. I guess whatever puts me to sleep at night, LOL. Where's the beer?

[000]

This thread is breathtaking. I have a big Cheshire grin across my face and my being is aglow reading all of your responses. This feels strongly like what Miriam Delicado describes as a 'gathering'. In the 3-manifold realm it just happens to be here on this wonderful forum :]

Where do I begin... [the journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.] I want to share with all of you my own story and this thread seems to be the most appropriate space to do so. Forgive me if I become long winded in my writing. It is a habit I have despite what I have learned in my studies of the English language. I will do my best to keep as concise as I can.

I've been in meditation for the duration of this special day, the new moon solar eclipse. Despite not physically witnessing it, I have been feeling it all day and still into the night as I type. It has been absolutely wonderful. [A note about meditation; one can do this through simple every day living, by being focused and aware, one does not need to directly practice zazen although that certainly has its place!] Through this meditation I find myself having been lead here to tell my story.

When I watched Dolores' interview I was immediately struck by her very warm nature and I knew instantly, for myself, that she was genuine. I must make note that I do make a strong point of checking in on myself at all times to remain grounded. Questioning things one experiences and feels is absolutely something to be embraced. The faculty to do so does indicate that one is not insane.

I cried during parts of the interview, particularly when she got to mentioning the waves of souls who have volunteered to incarnate here on Earth [and without a doubt in worlds throughout the universe, and throughout the Infinite in general, who are going through similar events in their paths.] I am of what she calls the first wave, however that physical life was cut short, I have yet to find out how, but I have a very strong feeling that indicates it was of my own doing and so I have had to reincarnate into this '2nd go' as it were, to complete what it is that I signed up for which was incomplete upon the '1st go's termination. Physically I am 24 years of age and at this point it has not been revealed at what age in my previous physical incarnation that I terminated.

I have practiced lucid dreaming for almost a decade now and have begun to be able to regress myself within the dream realm, with the assistance of my contacts [more on them later in my post.] Of importance to me, fairly recently, was the knowledge that the dream realm is one which is just as real as 3-manifold or any other density/dimension. It is the flipside of the same coin of which waking life is the other face. For me, falling asleep has become a door to walk through. Body falls asleep, 'self' awakens and body awakens and 'self' becomes more distant [though never really sleeps, any more at least.]

I'm only shown things when I am ready to/need to. The tools, as it were, are only given to me immediately as I need them and learn what is required to use them. 'Self' already contains within it all of the tools and knowledge required, however, the way it has been arranged is that these have sort of a failsafe, so they are not abused, and are obscured until ready, which is generally when one begins to be able to comprehend and understand these tools and/or items of one's past/future.

One of the things which is still obscured within me is where exactly I am from. I am told that it is not important right now and that if I knew I would wish to go back immediately and the urge to go back could potentially make me do anything to make that action a reality. What I have been told is that I am not from this universe, that 'we' are ancient, but beyond my comprehension of 'time', and that we have no names for 'self' or places and such. What I have learned is that everything where I am from is in the form of geometry of all kinds [Nth dimensional], where labeling, concepts, ideas, etc are concerned. That everything is stored within that. I'm slowly learning how to 'read' this way, however I'm still just only beginning to gain the understanding to do so, in this body. Much easier to perceive in the dream realm, or as I will refer to it from now on, the 'realm', whatever density it is [it can be many all at once, which is one hell of a thing to comprehend for me in itself!]

Why am I here... this is a big one because I only have some pieces of this puzzle at the moment. I feel it is very important to be in touch with this aspect of it all, after all, it was the main 'reason' to volunteer. In my own case there feels to be a couple items on my docket. One in particular is very specific, and feels fairly out there [but isn't all of this fairly out there as it is!] This item is somewhat of a single soul reconnaissance and retrieval. It is above all other things on my docket. Prime directive one might say. Why on Earth [and particularly, off Earth] do I have this to do? I am very unsure at this point and I still have so very much more to learn. This particular soul and I found each other last year and we have been through very much together including surviving what could have been a much worse situation, a car rollover in winter.

That brings me to my having been assisted so many times in my life. I've had my brushes with death more than I care to have had and through all of them my contacts/guides [whichever word, same thing] have been there. Not in physical form, mind, as they have no physical form unless they incarnate.

They have only appeared to me once in my life when I was 3. I was in my parents' bedroom while there was a none too severe thunderstorm going on outside, probably between 2100h-2200h, and I was watching it, from the bed, looking out their east facing window which was towards a forest in between our house and our neighbours' house, both on the edge of a river. Two orbs approximately the size of a large-ish medicine ball slowly and smoothly came east-northeast from the river, through the edge of the forest, towards the window. They were each one sphere within another larger sphere. The inner sphere was the size of a small bowling ball and was glowing/opaque, plasma like and slightly fizzy while the outer sphere was translucent, also glowing/fizzing, and not very dense, but very visible by the edges of the sphere. Their colour was orange/amber, not neon, but more orange tinted white, with the light 'texture' of an old phosphorescent cathode ray tube. They were not bright with a capital B. During the experience I felt very calm and at peace and could do nothing but gaze at them as they floated past the window. My parents did not see them at all. They then increased in speed and went off to the southeast through the woods and I had a dreamless sleep.

For a while, between 10~ and 20~ I always figured they may have just been ball lightning [I was very much into all kinds of strange topics that none of my peers, which were few, were into, meteorology in particular], even though I have been witness to ball lightning which was much more erratic in its movement, and a very very Bright blue/white light to it, and only a single 'opaque' sphere of much smaller size. This was up until my contacts began.

The way my contacts began was through the use of Dimethyltryptamine. So this is where things get interesting. I had started using psychedelic substances at 19, admittedly somewhat for recreation and out of curiosity at first, before I began to research them to the ends of the Earth. I also had used non-psychedelic substances as well, which never quite agreed with me [this ties in to my past incarnation later on.] In any case, my DMT use was last summer, the summer of 2009.

I originally extracted my own batch in the summer of 2008 for my own use and that of close friends. This summer turned out to be the main initiation state of my own awakening and it was very psychically painful for a few months. [One experience with 4-Aco-DMT is what triggered my initiation. Oddly enough it was the experiences the day or two after which were the most unsettling.] I thought I was truly losing it and had no idea what was happening to me. Quite a large amount of derealization. The realm merging into 3d-waking-life and me not knowing how to handle it. So I decided to give my 'stash' to a friend for safe keeping or to try himself. Only the DMT though, the rest I binned because it really was that frightening that I did not even want to be close to the substance. My friend held on to all of the extracted DMT for almost a year without touching it, and eventually it made its way back to me during the spring of 2009.

I end up smoking only small/medium doses and asking for guidance with each session, usually around midnight when I was drowsy and ready to fall asleep. [The soul I had 'found' at the end of April also had some with me on a couple of occasions, it affecting her more than me.] Towards the middle of summer 2009 I reached the end of the batch, and my experiences began to feel as if I was in an Infinite number of tiny arms, being held delicately at every possible angle. It felt like a mother's unconditional love, only so much more intense and direct. It surrounded and filled me and soon I began to quieten myself, meditate on it, and listen, and this is where contact began.

In the beginning, before I understood anything about this, or knew it was even possible, I thought maybe it was 'relatives' souls who had moved on and were watching over me. [This coming from me who at that time was somewhat atheist and didn't really want to fiddle in the spiritual, but deep down was open to it.] Contacts began to be more frequent, always the same warm feeling [this is now after I ran out of DMT and was completely sober, other than the occasional cigarette or beer] and the voice inside was very vague and subtle at first for a few months. The encounters were always brief, never more than 2 or 3 minutes. They were just letting me feel their presence to begin with.

Sometimes there would be clusters of encounters, all at night, sometimes in bed, sometimes while meditating in the shower, sometimes it would be quiet for many weeks. This is up until the car crash [which I will never refer to as an accident... I do not feel there are every any accidents, and that everything is always in its right place, despite how askew things are perceived as and even really are.] The crash changed everything.

It was after seeing some friends in Windsor after xmas 2009. We went to a friends' rave and enjoyed the company of many friends old and new. Now, of note is this, the night before we [same 'retrieved' soul I wrote of before] left, before we went to sleep, [my friends' parents place where we stayed was 'haunted' according to them] we asked if there were any presences in the house who wished to come forth, and if they did, to make a sound or something as such. Sure enough almost immediately after, three distinct knocks were heard [causing 'her' to curl up to me, her heart going a mile a minute.] The number three to me has always been extremely important and it was very uncanny that a potential 'relative' unrelated to me completely, who had not moved on, would be able to know that.

Now, the next day, we head off, a little tired, and it is snowing but not too badly, although it is good ol' wet snow which is unfortunately abundant in Southern Ontario winters, making driving quite unnerving. As we go towards London on our way back to Toronto, the winds are picking up a little, from the west, and the snow also picks up in intensity. We decide it is best to take a coffee break in London and stretch for a few minutes. After which we decide to head back out onto the 401. It is now snowing a little more heavily, still very wet, and the roads are now covered in chunky slush. We enter the highway on-ramp going, she's driving very very slowly and carefully, but then I get a very unsettling feeling that something is about to go off but I cannot do anything at all about it. The car then veers to the right just enough that it cannot be corrected back onto the road, and the momentum carries it into a roll, 2 or 3 rolls, into the ditch, which is quite steep, and we land top down. I won't go into details because it is a long story in itself, but we manage to get to the hospital where she is taken care of and I wait to see her for a long while [I had *one* very minor scratch on my left hand, after that severe a roll, with glass everywhere...]

So we eventually get home, her father picks her up from the hospital that night and I grab a cab and stay at a hotel for the night where my father comes and gets me the next morning. Needless to say the next few days were days of being very distant, almost feeling like I had died, even though I did not.

She and I spoke a few days after, mentioning we both felt that at some point during our lives, something severe like this would happen [however we did not know when, or how, and especially not that it would be us together]. We then went on our own paths of inner discovery for a few months, which is where my serious contacts began and I began to focus and listen in very carefully. This is where I was guided through 'breadcrumbs' to sites like Project Camelot and many others, through one of my close friends abroad. Many many synchronicities and a lot of research later, I find myself here telling this story :] [I want to say I am 'lucky' to be here to tell you all this, but I know not of luck, only lessons both of dark and light, so that one may see the other. I know I have been kept alive now because I signed up for what I am here to do.]

This brings me to my more immediate situation. She and I have begun to visit again, and are still very understanding of each other and learning from each other as we go. My nightly visits through the door to the realm, waking 'self', are becoming more intense and direct than they ever have. For a few years, the past 3, I have been meeting from time to time this soul who as yet has no name, and upon the first encounter in late winter 2007, said to me she was 'not of this reality'. This is before I knew what I know now, so it made no sense to me at all, but I was very drawn to her soul. I only say 'her' because her soul had a very female 'chord' [if we see beings are chords in an infinite symphony of vibration] and in that instance she took on a female form in the realm.

[//Aside: I digressed a bit and neglected to connect the 3 knocks and my contacts. The first thing of note is I have had three contacts so far. The first two were the cause of the knocking that one night, were assisting at the crash, and were the two orbs I witnessed when I was 3. They were with me my entire life they told me, taking care, watching, guiding, teaching. And then towards the end of April, they had come to complete what they had to do, all they wanted and needed too in their cycle, and merged with the Infinite, and partly merged to me as well. I grieved as one would grieve the loss of a close friend, and it still stings a bit when I think of it, but I know it just was the way things are. Before they merged, they gave me an amazing gift in the realm, a ride *on top of* a craft.

[//It was very slender, the size and shape of a coffin I would suppose, but very thin and polished like a stone on a beach, but still with a particular geometry. It was dark in hue, and felt 'alive'. It vibrated and as I grabbed a hold, which was irresistable, that vibration shook my entirety but it felt beyond anything I have ever felt in waking or in the realm. Soared at lightning speeds over enormous mountains... This was their parting gift, and also their partial merge with me, giving me 'shards' of their chords. Interestingly, they had a threeness about them. They were two, one masculine and one feminine, but only one voice, two through one, it was very triangular.

[//Anyhow, soon after their departure, their return to the ultimate home of homes, a new contact who was 'waiting in the wings' came into touch with me. Just one this time, feminine, and quite quiet at first, but just radiant and pure, very 'light hearted' as one might say in flesh terms. Nevertheless, exceptionally wise and strong at the same time, and very direct. The first two were more riddlers of sorts, only direct when they needed to be, but this new one was very direct all the time, very specific and with an innate fondness for causing enormous clusters of synchronicities, much to my glee because this is something I had learned to be tuned to and follow. The spaghetti that stuck to my wall. Right now, this feminine contact is performing a merge, all mutually agreed to of course, with me, what I feel is just again a shard and not a full merge. I get the sense that 'she' had some immediate 'business' to attend to and that I am to be on my own for a little while which is a little unnerving, but not as much as it would have been a few years ago.//]

Alright, so that aside, back to my immediate situation. In my very recent, within the past week, experiences in the realm, I've been meeting this 'not of this reality' being more often and more directly. The one dream was so intricate that it is another post in and of itself, but what happened was she needed to 'review' my being by going through it, which happened very quickly, and came in three 'rushes'. Two were very 'full' rushes which she looked through my everything, and the third was odd, it felt like a full stop, that she found something, and decided to immediately take off, whereupon all of the other people I was with, which was hundreds, in open top rail cars, all began to 'know who I was' and started to chase me. Thankfully they were very slow and I escaped, and after an unfortunately violent scene, on my behalf [situation went beyond the event horizon of the choice I had, so what was done was done], I met with her again where she attempted to give me some information but I could only make parts of it out. It was like a broken radio, like it was being interfered with, so I was chased again, the 'others' or 'darklings' as I call them, had caught up again... another very intricate escape later, I meet a darkling version of NotR who I at first thought was her but then found out was not, and made an immediate exit by waking up physically.

Now something interesting about the transfer of energies in the realm. Sometimes this is done by sexual or pseudo-sexual manners, like making out, which is sort of funny, but that is a very efficient way of going about it, if both parties consent [just as in physical life]. Each chakra is aligned with one another, especially the root and crown, and voila, energy transfer. Something to be very weary of though if you're contact with your 'family' or 'home' is through lucid dreaming/realming. I've had a couple occasions where darker souls try to 'steal' energy through these methods. You're own soul should adapt very quickly though, as a healthy immune system would physically. Soul seems to have one too. So in my case when this false version of someone trying to contact me attempted to thieve my energies, I knew the moment tongues touched. It sounds so weird, but I am just relaying how it happens with me :] I'll just say, you can tell when it is real. There is no faking that feeling!

Oh yes, another thing I've neglected and need to touch on as it is very important regarding my past life, the 1st go that was cut short. Self-regression via the realm is definitely possible but most likely, if you need it to happen that way, it will come to you when needed, as with everything. For me it started to reveal itself a couple weeks ago. I did ask to know because it was something I was wondering for a little while. Around watching Dolores' interview I strongly felt I was alive in a different physical body immediately previous to this life.

Recently in one very intense and clear regression in the realm, I found myself with the same soul I am today, experiencing very similar feelings, but in a much different light. It is difficult to put that cluster of feelings accurately enough into words. It was 'uncanny' to say the least. What I discovered through this dream though is that our relationship was much the same, but I was a bit more on the wilder side and was a heroin addict. [That explains the cravings in this incarnation for something that this physical body has not even touched once and never will.] Now, I am still slightly on the wild side, but 'spiritually' I am very calmed this time, very focused. [What is left of my persona is I'm a lifer metalhead, addicted to all kinds of music and make all kinds, but metal and punk of the most extreme kind are my true love... unexpected shell for a soul like this, but weirder things have combined!]

I digress though... This regression realm experience and the being chased one are what I am watching unfold now. I don't know much or understand much of it however I've been shown the basics so I am not upstream without a paddle. I'll see, eventually... soon, I am told.

For those seeking regression though, I suggest, if it resonates with you, and/or if you already do, integrate it into your lucid dreaming and ask your contact[s]/guide[s] for assistance. They know in an instant, literally, and always assist when *needed*. Keeping in mind that need is never one thing or the other, positive or negative. It can be all, in between, or none.

Getting to the small hours of the morning here and I've got bags developing under my eyes so it is time for me to retire. I was driven to share this story [which is only a small needlepoint shard of my experiences] through today's eclipse meditation, so perhaps there will be something of assistance in it.

We're all here because we chose to be here in some way, though all our work is not the same, and we come from so many different realms, we've been brought to meet here. What is yours will come to you [a favorite sliver of wisdom a great soul of this reality shared with me.]

Until next time :]

[Anchor]

I have here a quote from a channeling transcript from www.llresearch.org

Here is the relevant part of the message, which pertains to the subject of the OP, that of generational or waves of wanderers.


(Carla channeling)
We are those known to you as the principle of Q’uo. Greetings in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator, in Whose name and service we come to be with your circle of seeking this day. Thank you for the privilege of being called to this circle. We are very glad to be able to respond to the queries of the one known as W.

As always, however, before we begin, we would ask, not only of him but of all those who may read or listen to this session, that you use your powers of discrimination in deciding which of our thoughts you wish to consider further. Look for resonance and that feeling of a half-recognized truth that you know is for you. If you do not feel that resonance, then please leave our thoughts behind. We thank you for this discrimination as it will allow us to speak our thoughts freely without being concerned for infringement upon anyone’s free will.

<snip>

The indigo child is a third-generation wanderer, if you would wish to use the language or terminology with which this instrument has some familiarity.

The first generation of wanderers was made up of those such as this instrument, which responded to the call of Earth by coming from a higher density to move into incarnation and share the love and the light of the one infinite Creator with those of this planet in an attempt to shift the planetary energies more towards the light.

The second generation of wanderers was comprised of those who also were interested in helping planet Earth. However, this second generation of wanderers is characterized by more confidence than the first generation of wanderers, but also less of a dedication of service to others in that their chief motivation for coming into incarnation at this latter hour of your third density was to use the boot camp like atmosphere of planet Earth to do what they would consider “quick and dirty work” in adjusting the balance of their energies between love and wisdom. For some, this means emphasizing the heart and the opening [of] the heart. For others who already have their hearts opened, it means emphasizing wisdom and asking the open heart to receive that highest and best self’s wisdom which comes from guidance and informs loving compassion in such a way that there is equanimity to match the passion of your dedication to service.

The third generation of wanderers is made up of what this instrument and many others call the indigo children. There are many other terms for these children. However, in general, they are the first graduates in this harvest from the third density of planet Earth. These souls have moved through the gates into larger life. They have dropped their physical bodies and entered into a healing process with their guidance and with all of those forces which protect and nurture entities in the inner planes who are moving through the processes of death and rebirth. Further, they have moved through the steps of light and have passed their graduation test. These are fourth-density wanderers, whose first act, upon choosing what would please them the most to do next, was to return to their beloved home planet in order to assist not only the people of planet Earth, but also, and perhaps more principally, the planet itself.

Note I removed a chunk, but I left the Disclaimer which I feel is important to remain for the channeled work quoted.

Here is the full link http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2006/2006_1116.aspx

John..

[Astra]

I just had a vision of us all meeting in person. No one could even speak, everyone was crying so hard. It made me cry, then it made me laugh! :) We are so fortunate to be where we are right now.

What if this really happens ... sometime, somewhere ... :wub:

[illuminate]

Originally Posted by pilotsimone...
I just had a vision of us all meeting in person. No one could even speak, everyone was crying so hard. It made me cry, then it made me laugh! We are so fortunate to be where we are right now....
What if this really happens ... sometime, somewhere ... :wub:

Oh, I am more than sure of it :love:



re the ETs here being discreet about who they are -- maybe some of the other walk-ins &/or wanderers here will also share their thoughts on that -- i think that because things are getting pretty hairy down here on Earth right now, it's time for us to find each other -- shared energies are stronger than those of one being, working alone -- i wrote about having to overcome programming/resistance in order to post in this thread


The time is now... and it's shining a bright and beautiful light on all that was previously ambiguous.

I was very reluctant to start this thread, for obvious reasons... I almost posted it several times... even asked Bill for his advice... asked my friends off planet, source, the cards, my pendulum, the ethers, tested muscles... and everything screamed YES. Even my dog seemed to agree :p
So I protected myself with all the love there is and went for it. I am so glad I did!! This thread is attracting exactly the ones who need it and as we all know there is reason behind everything.

Thank you all for taking this ride and for sharing so openly, never worry, YOU are protected with all the love there is too :love:

A big warm welcome to 000, thanks for opening up to us!!! For each of us that opens up, there is guaranteed to be someone who needs to hear it, so for this I thank you with all my heart!

It's funny cos right before I sat down to start this thread, after having asked for extra reassurance... right before I hit submit to post, I asked out loud once more and I chit you not, my itunes magically opened and this song began to play... (it's funny cos even though I remember and love this song from the 80's, I had never downloaded it!)


We Belong, We Belong to the light
Many times I've tried to tell you
Many times I've cried alone
Always I'm surprised how well you
Cut my feelings to the bone

Don't want to leave you really
I've invested too much time
To give you up that easy
To the doubts that complicate your mind

We Belong to the light
We Belong to the thunder
We Belong to the sound of the words
We've both fallen under
Whatever we deny or embrace
For worse or for better
We Belong, We Belong
We Belong together

Maybe it's a sign of weakness
When I don't know what to say
Maybe I just wouldn't know
What to do with my strength anyway
Have we become a habit
Do we distort the facts
Now there's no looking forward
Now there's no turning back
When you say

Close your eyes and try to sleep now
Close your eyes and try to dream
Clear your mind and do your best
To try and wash the palette clean
We can't begin to know it
How much we really care
I hear your voice inside me
I see your face everywhere
Still you say

We Belong to the light
We Belong to the thunder
We Belong to the sound of the words
We've both fallen under
Whatever we deny or embrace
For worse or for better
We Belong, We Belong
We Belong together

With love!

:love:

[Celine]

Never alone...

[truthseekerdan]

Thank you Illuminate, and everyone participating on this thread. :thumb:

A beautiful video with a heart warming and humbling new view on the Extraterrestrial phenomenon...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVoBVs67HjE&feature=related

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVoBVs67HjE&feature=related

[Decibellistics]

Here's an idea.......You don't need a plane to fly.......

I wonder if there has ever been a forum conducted in the otherworld......there has to be....cause I've been to one with help.

If abilities are a reality, has there ever been a test within a group of individuals to meet each other at a specific location in the otherworld to conduct basically what we do here. Or on a higher level, to help each other practice in their energy bodies. We probably all already do this to a certain extent. Though is it possible to tune into a frequency, travel on the tentacle of light that emits the energy and travel to a place of meeting where energetic practices can occur? This would require a lot of energy in and of itself........I dunno. It'd be a pretty cool ride.

[illuminate]

Here's an idea.......You don't need a plane to fly.......

I wonder if there has ever been a forum conducted in the otherworld......there has to be....cause I've been to one with help.

If abilities are a reality, has there ever been a test within a group of individuals to meet each other at a specific location in the otherworld to conduct basically what we do here. Or on a higher level, to help each other practice in their energy bodies. We probably all already do this to a certain extent. Though is it possible to tune into a frequency, travel on the tentacle of light that emits the energy and travel to a place of meeting where energetic practices can occur? This would require a lot of energy in and of itself........I dunno.
It'd be a pretty cool ride.

It certainly would be!
and with what I have seen and experienced in this life, I know, without a shadow of a doubt...
EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE :love:

[greybeard]

It certainly would be!
and with what I have seen and experienced in this life, I know, without a shadow of a doubt...
EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE :love:

You will never know how much this thread you started and the many contributions here means to me illuminate.
Thank you from the very depth of my soul
Chris X

[truthseekerdan]

DITTO, Chris. :love: :grouphug:

For all knowledge seekers visiting this great thread, I heartily recommend reading the Thiaoouba Prophecy (http://www.thiaoouba.com/mic.htm) book by Michel Desmarquet.

Short Summary:

WHY are we Alive? WHY are we Conscious?
What is The Purpose of the Universe and our OWN role in it?
WHY is it not enough to believe?
What happened to advanced civilizations and continents (Mu, Atlantis..) ?
Are we also to face a global catastrophe ? WHEN? What? Why?
Why NOBODY REMEMBERS what was the purpose of the Great Pyramid and how to build it?
What happens after death and before we are conceived? WHY?
Who said that there is a conflict between Creation and Evolution?
Why was invention of a WHEEL a great step backwards for humanity?
What are the greatest dangers for Man and humanity on Earth?
What can we do? Dream or to Act? Can we change the SYSTEM peacefully?
How much truth is in the Bible? What are lessons from history?
How did Man appear on Earth?

Thiaooba Prophecy by Michel Desmarquet

http://www.thiaoouba.com/newcovl.jpg (http://www.thiaoouba.com/mic.htm)

Read the book online here (http://www.galactic.no/rune/thaoeng.html)
or download eBook (http://www.archive.org/download/ThiaooubaProphecyEbook/ThiaooubaProphecy.pdf)

[Caren]

Illuminate, may I say how much I enjoy and appreciate your positive energy; and all the love you give so
freely to us here at Avalon! Thank you,
caren

[Snowbird]

This first video I found rather helpful. The second video may or may not touch a few on this thread.

Starseeds...Starchildren...Children of Light

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqzPf3pBjc&feature=related


Arcturians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyyrGvxgRhI&feature=related

[spaceman44]

I have the strangest feeling that I don't belong. I just can't settle with my life,
I feel like I am always looking for something, I don't know what it is, and up to not I haven't found it.
I've had two marriages and lots of children, yet I somehow feel incomplete, like something is missing.
I have felt this way as long as I can remember. I find myself thinking about this so much lately, it takes
over my thoughts and my life, to a point that sometimes it drives my crazy, and I get frustrated about it.
My sleeping pattern is quite irratic and has been for some time. I can't remember having a decent nights sleep
in months.
I worry in case there is some underlying cause, and I have major concerns about that.
I am getting more and more frustrated and irritable and I need to do something about it fast.
Can anyone help?

[Olam]

Well you pretty much explained my situation so I know how you feel.
I thinks its cool to hear this from others in a way as it means we really are either searching for something lost or the reason we are here.
Its very clear to me that Im not here just to work to pay bills.
Apart from just being me and around, I still wonder why I am here.

[Agape]

Agape -- some good questions here, & ones which i have asked myself -- like the questioning my sanity part -- i had prior good practice on that part after that abduction when i fought very hard to & managed to stay conscious -- i've wondered if i'm just a frustrated sci-fi writer --

i don't really care what people think about me -- i talk to lots of humans about UFOs -- quite a lot have stories to share -- some may think i'm weird -- oh well... -- as to a diagnosis from a doctor: i did editorial proofreading for 5 yrs for one of the top med publishers in the USA, & that confirmed my desire to stay as far away from doctors & hospitals as possible -- especially w/the diagnoses they are coming up w/now -- i don't like meds, so why would i go to a doc anyway?

re being a wanderer/walk-in -- i've asked myself if i find living down here so difficult that i've imagined a whole fantasy identity for myself to make it bearable -- & if the memory/seeing of 'myself' in the tub when being traumatized -- i've wondered if i was having my personality/selfhood split, &, again, the wanderer walking in memories are ways to make the trauma experience acceptable to my mind

but there have been too many experiences in my life that seem to confirm this -- many very close sightings of different ships -- some NWO-made -- but not all --

there are many other events from my past -- too many to write here -- here's a small one: when living in Boulder, i found the people in that area, especially those from Denver, to be very open to the idea of ETs among us -- at 2 different times when living there, i met 2 different people, whose first words to me were 'What ship did you come in on?'

re the ETs here being discreet about who they are -- maybe some of the other walk-ins &/or wanderers here will also share their thoughts on that -- i think that because things are getting pretty hairy down here on Earth right now, it's time for us to find each other -- shared energies are stronger than those of one being, working alone -- i wrote about having to overcome programming/resistance in order to post in this thread

re the risk to self part by even being here but esp when talking about it -- i imagine most if not all of the other ETs here on PA have had some attention paid to them by mil intel in their lives -- my walk-in clone friend told me once, 'They want us dead' [the next time we talk, i'll pin her down on that one -- like why would they want [I] her dead, if her people are allied w/the reptilians here?] -- i know that i am already tracked -- & i refuse to live in fear anyway -- also the reptilians' plan of stripping my life of much that humans value has backfired on them, because i don't have much to lose -- except my life -- & i'm not that thrilled w/being here anyway

thanks for your post


Hi Wynderer,

thanks for response and for sharing your inner experiences , I've read from you here and there .

Do I question my own sanity ? Not at all. What I've seen and been through was completely logical and sane for me.

The possibly insane point occurred when I started to speak about it, when I came back home to Europe and realized that people are not at all familiar with this type of information
and not ready to think about in logical terms because it's far beyond their heads, their everyday lives and experiences.

I'm not someone who needs to speak about ETs and UFOs on every corner, well, who is, after all.

I think I've had reasons why I needed to say things as they were though,

firstly trying to explain what has happened to me and secondly, the intent as I strongly felt was to pass the findings forwards.

Maybe I was and am overly cautious about speaking to people whom I feel are not ready but I believe it's spared me quite few difficulties.

Some of us are stronger, to bear those adverse reactions, being accussed of lies, telling nonsense, ridiculing the message in any possible way . I've tried to avoid it and guess the softest possible result was that I'm alone , closed home for 5 years because of fatigue
and because others can't relate to me and vice versa and there's no one here to help me with life or guide me forwards.

I have my tibetan teachers and indian teachers back there , I have friends here too, mum who kindly supports my living and hopes that I will sort it out sooner or later because she trusts me and knows I've always sorted out my things at last.

It's not good in essence , the situation, as it was not just a dream or psychic experience but physical event yet , if I come to M.D.s here and speak about it , at best they refer me to 'ufologists' or 'astrphysicists' and say we know nothing about this .

When I spoke to astrophycists, they were interested to hear it as hypothesis but not really something they could spend money on, my guess.

Am I excited about speaking on myself on public forums ? Not at all. Not the slightest part of me is interested in making website or typing things down.

I'm happy if there are some real people here to talk to because all I had so well done in life before has changed a good deal and I'm barely catching up , in light moments so to say.

As the active part of my mind and I think it's completely sane again, wants to have the 'big problem solved' .

Others can't quite understand what the problem is ..so we're back at their prejudice, disbelieves and world of liers and comforts and constants that had probably never been through any challenge , not big enough at least to clear their minds of mud.

The only reason why I ever came up with this issue was that I hoped that I'll be able to work on the scientific part of it somewhere and if not, then what to do ?

I don't like being frustrated and spend my life saying to some stupid stranger 'hi i'm e.t. ' lol

I'd like to find my balance back, ET-human, live life that is useful to others, experience Love in my life as it's something I'm lacking most .

Interestingly enough or not ...before the Encounter, I was always happy to be alone, did not feel I need partner, I was fine in communities, did my meditations, teachings , worked on things..

then suddenly, not sure I was simply traumatized but I felt like I can't be alone anymore ,

missed having family, needed the feeling. When I came back to mum, after 6 years she was almost stranger to me, it was never the same. Even the ET me suddenly popped on surface and did not feel like having a mum.

Sometimes I think it'd be much easier to forget it all but at the same time I know I won't ever want to cut myself from the Source, from knowing . It'd be 'the insane ' thing to do, no matter what people think about it.

The greater picture suggests that we are guided, some of personally guided, through very strange times that will make sense only later on.

And more often I think that from all the ETs walking on Earth I'm the most stupid one :becky:


Millitary and other intelligencies ? Boy, if they only were so clever as they're supposed to be. I have nothing to hide from them . If they come to ask me about it with respect, I will tell them all as it is.


From all the great things in Universe, keeping ones mind intact is probably the most important.


Sneeze LOL

Love to you :wub:

[Agape]

And then, you know..one comes to ufologists as no one else is able to reflect on this and they say, oh well friend, thank you, what a wonderful experience.

I'm not sure who has ever coined the term 'experience' anyway, it maybe the case with things like 'mystical experiences' isn't it so, my spiritual friends too better think I've had 'an experience', it relieves them of the burden of thinking about it in real terms,
thinking pains you know :becky:
It's like if you've been in tornado and come back to people and because they've never seen it, they say you've had 'an experience' .

So next , when you start to speak to researchers or whomever who are already familiar with the subject... you learn how to say this : Sir, I've had very special experience.


I bet sure that one day , when I'm back to some other world and start speaking about human world here on Earth, they will very much doubt what I'm saying.
Will they believe me this all ? NO WAY.

They'll pad me on back and say ..forget it, better for you..what a weird experience you had...



:sarcastic:

[lunaflare]

Dear Agape,

I suppose the word "experience" is the best we can come up with to describe a highly personal...*****%%&& and this is challenging (if not impossible) to convey to another being
There is certainly need to expand our understanding of what is "normal"- so we may relate to a vast variety of life-form...or consciousness. There are those who walk the earth who are able to relate with plant forms, animals...but ET beings, I am not sure. Our perception seems so limited. It is more about sensing that seeing. Trusting this "sense" is what I struggle with...it is a daily practice for me to validate and give myself value/love for being on this earth at this time. And this has to come from within.

I noted in a prior post you wrote,

Bringing 'out' your ET personality and knowledge is difficult (from memory). Can you explain further your ET personality?

Sometimes I awake and I know I am different. Some other consciousness in this body?
I look different (in mirror/more sparkly) and certainly feel different (lighter/positive) I feel there is a different consciousness in my body...lighter/kinder/more open.
And who makes this judgment?
"I" somehow do...I do not know...maybe this body has consciousness and "knows" that it is being activated by a differing energy.
Or maybe in dreamtime I have been altered as it were..or changed in some way.
I know I am grateful for it. Makes my life more joy filled.
other days it is not there...I can feel this and see it visually. I am generally more tired, look different (dense) and not so pleased to be alive!

Not sure if this makes much sense... but hey...language can be limiting

Will post before I decide not to...

[Oouthere]

In the early morning hours of Feb 2007, my son and I received our first conscious download indicating we are volunteers. We were both shown six black symbols on a white board of which I thought was Hebrew. The only symbol I can remember is the 5th from the left and it looked like an "I". Once you looked at all of the symbols an immediate and perfect understanding happened, it told us we are like soul migrants or immigrants and not from here. Then it was followed by a telepathic message that was full of imminent warning....."Prepare for what is to come." Then it ended.

Rich

[NancyV]

I have the strangest feeling that I don't belong. I just can't settle with my life,I feel like I am always looking for something, I don't know what it is, and up to not I haven't found it. I've had two marriages and lots of children, yet I somehow feel incomplete, like something is missing. I have felt this way as long as I can remember. I find myself thinking about this so much lately, it takes over my thoughts and my life, to a point that sometimes it drives my crazy, and I get frustrated about it. My sleeping pattern is quite irratic and has been for some time. I can't remember having a decent nights sleep in months. I worry in case there is some underlying cause, and I have major concerns about that. I am getting more and more frustrated and irritable and I need to do something about it fast. Can anyone help?
You may not be able to figure out what you are missing until you find it, but don't quit looking as I do believe you WILL find it if you continue to search. I always knew I was missing my true love, my soul mate. Even in my 3 marriages I knew that I was not with my true love, and yet I loved those 3 husbands and am still friends with them (even the dead one). :)

I did not meet my soul mate until I was 48 years old, it was in an AOL chat room. We exchanged poetry for a couple of weeks. He flew from the East coast to the Pacific Northwest to meet me and we married 3 weeks later. That life long feeling of missing a part of myself left and has never returned. That was 15 years ago.

In my case I knew what I was missing but I didn't know if I was supposed to meet my soul mate in this lifetime, I just knew that I was yearning for him and could not stop until I found him. We are both very strange people and have had rather bizarre and interesting lives. Both of us are likely walk-ins or volunteers. In my husband's case he was electrocuted at the age of 6. His father had to knock him away from the source of the electric shock so he was connected to the electricity for a while. They thought he might die but he survived. His mother said that from then on he was a different boy. He had been sweet and loving but he turned into a loner who was fearless and very tough. He left home at 16, was in Vietnam by his 17th birthday, and lived the live of a soldier/warrior for many yeas. He was also somewhat of a Pagan follower, has read the tarot cards regularly since he was about 15, has had many out of body experiences and met ET's in a few different places.

When I was a child I always felt that I had been placed with my parents and that they were not my real parents. At about 9 years old (in 1956) I wrote a story about being an ET who was not from this planet. I was very different from my "peer" group, somewhat of a loner, totally fearless and a rebel. There were many strange incidents in my early life such as when I was in school if I was bored (which was quite often) I would just leave my body and go sit up above the door and look down on the whole room to see them from a different perspective. I did not need to study much and got straight A's but felt that I was not living up to my potential. It didn't make me feel great to be so smart, it just made me feel that everyone else must be really stupid, which was not a good feeling to grow up with. So I would entertain myself by rebelling in silly ways like refusing to wear shoes to school. I told them that I needed to feel a connection with the earth and could not feel earth energy while wearing shoes. This started when I was around 12 and continued through high school. LOL So I did get in trouble quite often. I also did not defer to any of my teachers if I thought they didn't know what they were talking about, so you could say that I never bought into a philosophy of respecting anyone in any position of supposed authority if what they said didn't sit right with me.

I left home at 16 and moved alone to Mexico. This was in 1963. Since then I have lived in many different places, had many lovers and 3 previous husbands. I also have two wonderful adult children who are happy, secure and intelligent. They each have one child so far. My husband also has 3 previous wives and probably more than 10 children, he's not sure. He only kept in touch with 5 of them.

I've been everything from a hippy to a guru follower, non political to a conservative and back to non political again, since now I am sure that if a politicians lips are moving he (or she) is lying. LOL. I also worked as an undercover DEA agent in Mexico and South America for about a year in the early 70's until I realized that the DEA is corrupt and I could not tell the "good guys" from the "bad guys". Of course I had a lot of adventures including being kidnapped several times, raped, nearly being killed many times, but to me it was all a grand adventure. You haven't really lived until you've been kidnapped by a Colombian drug lord!! LOL....I had very little fear of doing anything or going anywhere. I suppose that's not always a smart thing. :) I turned most dangerous situations to my advantage by changing the energy, or a few times I just managed to escape somehow.

The first time I was abducted was when I was 16 in Acapulco Mexico. I think I must have been drugged because I awoke on a boat heading out of the Acapulco Bay. I was locked in the cabin. I managed to open a window and jumped out of the boat into the water. I swam at least a mile or two to shore in my drugged state. They probably didn't expect me to awaken so soon but I am very resistant to the effects of many drugs and they wear off quickly. This was just the first of many times I've been abducted in Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Spain and France. I'm really not sure WHY, but such has been my life! :) I also don't know why I was never afraid. I do think extremely clearly and quickly in ANY emergency situation and I always know exactly what to do. Perhaps I have some very helpful guardian angels or guides also.

As far as not belonging here, perhaps none of us really belong here but we ARE here for either the lessons involved or we are here at this time because we may have a mission in the upcoming changes that seem likely and indeed seem to be happening now. Even when I was travelling on other planes (and I've had conscious OOBE's at least a couple of hundred times) I knew that I was here on the earth plane for a reason, so although I do not fear death and would in fact welcome it, I am content to be here as long as I am supposed to be here, especially since I am with my soul mate. He is the most wonderful, awesome, powerful man I have ever met, rather scary too! LOL

OK, now that I have written entirely too much I will end with a poem:

Nancy :)


Ascend

“The weight of knowledge lies heavily, newly won”.
As I sat at my computer these words appeared
within the complex system inhabited by the one
I have come to know as myself, among others-unheard,
sensed only, influencing our collective expression
of light and sound on this playing field so feared
few enter without complete memory suppression.

How many could bear the years of hopes and dreams
thwarted again and again, or reached, and found
to be dead, meaningless, not answering the screams
of the Soul to be infilled with an essential food and sound
which soothes, quitens with velvet strokes and seems
an answer to all yearnings, if awareness profound
were known, a constant cross borne...of earthly themes...

“Newly won” implies competition, rewards, something attained
through hard-fought tests and battles, a feeling of militancy
attached, yet she, in idealistic innocence, thought Love pertained
to all perspectives, permutations and parts of this extravagancy
called life. I weep...her cherished icon toppling...all wisdom gained
dashed on barren shores, broken... as the heart of Nancy,
a wave reaching endings, she agonizes...has nothing remained?

Had not the azure-blue flame, ice-hot fire, infused and interblended
into the body of Nancy, stirring memories shrouded or denied,
rippling, gently tickling my*self from long sleep, not comprehended
by her in journeys and wanderings, seeking, desiring that rarefied
wholeness and peace only glimpsed from a place of transcended
beingness, never held as her own possession, never beautified
as a fully embraced lover, cherished above all else, befriended

on all levels...had not the dross been made clear through the burning
fire of her awakening... I would not be speaking now. Separated
as I have become from her, I am closer still than before her turning
away from the Light in her tests of battles with darkness, uncreated
souls who wished to suck the grapes of her creation into their churning
mash, to be stomped and jumped upon, pressing the juice, regurgitated
as unified, generic wine, un-unique mass-mind automatons...yearning...

tiny yearnings pushed into miniscule corners and crevices, mired
in mucky glue – the beings that are you – and Nancy... an intimation
of the immense powers arrayed in diametric opposition, undesired
of your awakening. When one of us is birthed from the impregnation
by the father-source and the lengthy gestation in mother-earth, attired
with our physicality, into the light of knowledge again, our incarceration
nears its ending. Just one...one of us may be the spark which fired

the entire dark forest of our past history. For time is now ending
All histories and karmas burning, veils thinly tattered, wispy illusions
shattered, echoes only, reverberating hollowly, death throes sending
spasms of pain uncreating itself within our realities, felt in confusions,
maddening misunderstandings of questions and answers, unblending
and unwinding the separations. So...with that knowledge comes infusion
of Wisdom...and with Wisdom comes Responsibility...never-ending...
Responsibility to aid in our Ascending.

[JesterTerrestrial]

Howdy folks...

interesting thread you got going here. :cool: Thank you all for sharing your personal experiences here. Its some rather unusual topics of discussion for some i guess...however i have had had this conversation before. I also have memories that have begun to re-surface as I was doing some personal clearing meditations i began to look at an event in my life where I may have jumped into this body. I have a memory of a very bright white light coming from the sky and thats about as much as I will say. However its something I do not fully understand and i just let it go with the flow. I have a friend who also may have jumped in as well but what it all means I do not know. If I am to understand it i am sure I will when i need to. Did i walk into this body when i was a few years old? maybe... I do know with certainty I just walked back into Avalons forum after some "holidays" I can tell you that much. Nice to see you all here sharing.

Anyway glad to see you all exploring and sharing what you know...as you can see from some comments its kind of difficult to understand these events and function "normally" in the society that many of our family and friends are still trapped in. I have a feeling that much more understanding of this for me personally will be revealed to me in the days ahead...until then...

Peace JT

[Agape]

Dear Agape,

I suppose the word "experience" is the best we can come up with to describe a highly personal...*****%%&& and this is challenging (if not impossible) to convey to another being
There is certainly need to expand our understanding of what is "normal"- so we may relate to a vast variety of life-form...or consciousness. There are those who walk the earth who are able to relate with plant forms, animals...but ET beings, I am not sure. Our perception seems so limited. It is more about sensing that seeing. Trusting this "sense" is what I struggle with...it is a daily practice for me to validate and give myself value/love for being on this earth at this time. And this has to come from within.

I noted in a prior post you wrote,

Bringing 'out' your ET personality and knowledge is difficult (from memory). Can you explain further your ET personality?

Sometimes I awake and I know I am different. Some other consciousness in this body?
I look different (in mirror/more sparkly) and certainly feel different (lighter/positive) I feel there is a different consciousness in my body...lighter/kinder/more open.
And who makes this judgment?
"I" somehow do...I do not know...maybe this body has consciousness and "knows" that it is being activated by a differing energy.
Or maybe in dreamtime I have been altered as it were..or changed in some way.
I know I am grateful for it. Makes my life more joy filled.
other days it is not there...I can feel this and see it visually. I am generally more tired, look different (dense) and not so pleased to be alive!

Not sure if this makes much sense... but hey...language can be limiting

Will post before I decide not to...



Dear Lunaflare,

thank you for posting..:wub:

you are right there of course . Experience depends on experiencer , beauty is in the eye of beholder , everything in our world and beyond is a phenomenon occuring between an experiencer and object of his experience , phenomenology does not define existence in strict terms, similar to what Buddhism describes in terms of dependant arising .
Relativity and absence of inherent existence .
In those terms, strictly taken, we do not exist even, we are just phenomena :becky:

Is it quite so, it isn't. I do believe and experience Reality to be real . But as you've said as well, there are more realities than the majority is currently aware of and than it's well defined.
Buddhist academy is not quite united on that concept either. The older teachings say we have 'a nature' .

Our task from beginningless times is to define our reality and extend our understanding and define and extend. Then go to sleep lol

Should I write an essay on 'My ET personality'' ?

What I referred to in above post was more about the non-disclosure situation on ET Encounters in general.

Not that I want to get black points for self-promotion but if you scroll few categories down, Barry has started thread there and enclosed my Bodhgaya Event/Encounter report .

For sure, anything can be labeled an experience . Having dinner is an experience, being hungry too is an experience .

If I have vivid dream about ETs or any other special dream lets say, I sure will call it 'experience' and tell about it to my best friends perhaps but there it starts and ends. It does not alter my reality . It can change my mood for better or worse but it does not really change anything.

Due to the global non-disclosure situation and lack of experience in the field ( now again the word experience gets another distinct meaning, like being 'experienced' in some field of knowledge, do i have to define knowledge ? it'd take us too far..knowledge is higher category than experience anyway, in my understanding ..)
ET Encounters are really not well defined category of experiences or are they.

Lets say Betty&Barney Hill , would they say they've had an Experience unless everything else is ?

How to distinguish between inner experience and reality ? Rhetorical question , for those who have ever encountered ETs .
The problem with ETs and distorted time-space of course is an illusion of reality that can be imposed on what reality is really.

There are times when one can't trust himself and times when one can . But, others who did not have any similar experience , again, won't be able to get what one speaks about .

Experience , strictly taken is something that relates only to me and does not contain any others. Unless the others and all inside that experience are pure illusion, it's a reality .

It's not only me who faces the same problem of course, with defining what any intelligent reality of ET life is about.
Scientists we know about, ufologists and researchers, well everyone seems to have some theory on the topic but those theories are neither well defined nor united in concept.

It's an overall problem. The easiest way for many is to think that it does not exist. If you say something does not exist, it frees one from burden of thinking about it.


That's why I think, the term 'ET Experiences' was invented to get rid of the trouble. People can speak about it among themselves at least and share without knocking anyone out .

It does not quite require any actions and responsibilities , because it all can also be explained on psychological note.
I've read one such study where ET Experiences ( such as abuctions..) are linked to early memories in the womb and shortly after birth ( faces of strangers, doctors, hostile environment or on other hand feelings of love and care ).
It probably gives great sense to the psychologist who's invented this theory for overall benefits .

I've also read about 'hard skeptics' scientists saying that those who experienced ET encounters are usually simple minded people without qualifications , mostly having problems in life,
and the proof that it's all fake is that they've never described too well what they've seen, especially technologies.

What I wish for is that the close minded approach of science towards these rare happenings /encounters would stop ( I also do not believe that all experiences are necessarilly encounters but there the other than human reality should be researched better , with help of equipments we already have rather than 'home frequency-meters or whatever because no individual logically has money for more sophisticated equipments )

I can relate well to what you are saying ..about consciousness and feeling differently here and there..it's another curious phenomenon..

Well, we do not yet understand everything ...


If you find my thread by chance, I will try to write an essay on 'my e.t. personality'

Fear I'm talking too much already lol



:bathbaby:

[Anchor]

Here are some things you can read in the chapter of the wanderers handbook that is online here http://www.llresearch.org/library/a_wanderers_handbook_pdf/a_wanderers_handbook_00.pdf


Questioner: Who are wanderers? Where do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Imagine, if you will, the sands of your shores. As countless
as the grains of sand are the sources of intelligent infinity. When a social
memory complex has achieved its complete understanding of its desire,
it may conclude that its desire is service to others with the distortion
towards reaching their hand, figuratively, to any entities who call for
aid. These entities whom you may call the Brothers and Sisters of
Sorrow move toward this calling of sorrow. These entities are from all
reaches of the infinite creation and are bound together by the desire to
serve in this distortion.

... more on the nature of the challenge then...


But if this journey is so difficult, why did we ever undertake it? Those of

Q’uo state:
You are here to bring light to a dark world. It is as simple as that. The
purpose for which wanderers incarnated is all one: to love, and to love,
and to love, and to love. You will be hurt, broken, humiliated and
defeated in the course of a life in faith. It runs directly counter to the
culture in which you live to do things for an ideal reason, to focus upon
the Creator which is unseen rather than all of the phenomena, all of the
gadgetry, all of the amusements that are so delightful upon the surface
of life in your density. Be aware that even in those situations you may
choose to be of service by moving constantly in an awareness of the love
and the light of the one infinite Creator. But also, and most of all, be
aware, we ask each, that non-dramatic service is as vital as dramatic
service, just as the mouth of an entity speaks many things, but would
not be able to function without each and every other organ of the
physical vehicle, which must be kept in some sort of balance in order
that one may manifest any gifts whatsoever.

(emphasis added by me).

This thread, by the entrained thoughts of the minds that have read it, appears to me to have created quite an amazing energetic resonance. I am sure many of you have felt this.

John..

[xbusymom]

I have always been the 'black sheep' in my family, never fit into the IN crowd at school, naive and taken advantage of to the point of being seen as 'stupid' during most of my life, but I feel I am a first waver...

I have inherited some of my mother's telepathic abilities, have a knack for 'seeing' the pain-spots in the body and can reduce/heal them, have developed the ability to comprehend different perceptions of people and can translate them in a way that each individual's learning style can understand, and (after many years practice) have an infinite amount of patience with people...

I am very frustrated with all of the stumbling blocks that keep people asleep to what is going on in the world and the spiritual planes...

[bluestflame]

yeah sme sensatives can see the energy meridians in the body and the points where they are blocked , thing is the energy involved in seeing actually assists to dissolve them just by looking

[greybeard]

This thread, by the entrained thoughts of the minds that have read it, appears to me to have created quite an amazing energetic resonance. I am sure many of you have felt this.

John..

I have noticed that there seems to be a positive shift of energy in quite a few threads here John.
All to the good I believe, times they are a changing.
Chris

[illuminate]

This thread, by the entrained thoughts of the minds that have read it, appears to me to have created quite an amazing energetic resonance. I am sure many of you have felt this.

YES, it is ELECTRIC! :bounce:

For the first time in my life, as I read through this thread, the loneliness has lifted...
first time ever in this life! I cannot thank each of you enough for this. This is the most beautiful gift! :love:

I know that usually we stand alone, keeping quite hidden, except for those we are intimate with and this
is fine (minus the loneliness) but I feel now is the time to come together...

This is not about me, any more than it is about you... it's only about us.

I know what I AM capable of... I know what YOU are capable of...
can you IMAGINE what we would be capable of together?

IMAGINE...

The power of one is magnificent, but the power of many is unstoppable!

TPTB's worst nightmare :love:

it's like the comic book and movie Transformers, where many pieces come together to make a whole...
"Transformers... more than meets the eye"


❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤


And for those of you scratching your heads in disbelief or laughing...
I do understand.

Please for a moment try to grasp what it might be like to come from a world where love is the basis for all expression....
only then to enter a world where most beings are motivated by fear.

Perhaps the whole idea of non-human life terrifies most people, since what most people know is only what they've been taught in school and church, by science and the media. If these were my only teachers, I'd be laughing at Walk-ins and Wanderers too. It seems a sorry state indeed to have those without cosmic vision as sole authorities for truth.

But sorry or not, most people sincerely look to institutions for leadership. While they do offer some things of value,
their vision of the universal life is blurry to the point of blindness. In matters of spirit and eternity, we have to look
elsewhere for guidance.

The need for proof is fine, but maybe instead of laughing or judging, you would have much to gain by sincerely asking
(your self) questions instead...

I think that most people are not really seeking truth and could care less about a wider vision of the universe. Most people are content to live their lives in the status quo, finding pleasure where they can, and do not feel the spark of aspiration that directs them to learn and find meaning. This aspiration is a yearning for spiritual growth...

Besides, people who do not realize that human experience has cosmic purpose are those most likely to laugh at such unconventional ideas.

Either way, I LOVE YOU!

This might help in understanding:

Life as an ET Walk-In, an intimate portrait by: Savizar and Silarra...



We are not the original inhabitants of these bodies. Nor are we originally from this planet. We are writing this now in an attempt to stand even more naked to those who would look into our existence with any sincere desire to know what it is about.

The human packages that we have "walked-in" to are for us a vast reference library of information about life on this planet, reveal to us the beauty and horror of life here as well as what we imagine are some universal human longings. Many of our motivations appear to be very humanistic and altruistic. We speak of the co-creation of Heaven on Earth because it speaks to longings in humanity that are aligned to our mission to this planet.

We speak of following spirit without hesitation because it can bring us all together in asymphonic movement of consciousness that will support the fulfillment of each individual's divine mission.

We accept that many treat us as if we are inspired humans who have discovered a new way to live, but we know that this is incorrect. We are the fourth spirits to inhabit these bodies and none of us were originally from Planet Earth. None of the motivations for anything that has ever been done in or through these embodiments has ever been truly understood by anyone, not even by these human minds. it is even difficult for these minds that we are using to communicate to know how truly "alien" our consciousness is. For all intents and purposes, we appear to be like many humans on this planet who have dedicated their lives to the evolution of Earth's Consciousness.

Please for a moment try to grasp what it might be like to come from a world where love is the basis for all expression and to enter a world where most beings are motivated by fear. All attempts to communicate and share realities are almost certainly doomed to failure because of the fundamentally different ways of viewing life and its motivations. What is real, true, and natural for us would seem like science fiction to many of the beings on this planet. Still, we have no choice except to continue to express what is in us to be expressed.

As we live in this world there are many times when it is very apparent that we are not from here. As we expand to greater consciousness of our alien spirits and we look around we can see that just from blending human consciousness with extraterrestrial spirits a new breed is emerging with new ways of seeing and interacting with life. The daily effort to live the truth of this alien spirit while being pulled to deny its wisdom by the lure to fit in and be like the other that live here is enormous. Yet it seems that now that we are conscious of this alien being that we are, there is no turning back to the illusion that we are only human.

We are drawn inexorably to live an existence that its motivation seems to in almost every way be 180 degrees opposite of the way that most beings live on this planet. We have had to resolve our humanity's desire to be understood and to learn to live beyond the desire for acceptance. There is much in the ways that we live our lives that can easily be misinterpreted by imagining that our motivations are based in fear rather than love. Much of our way of living does not even comply with the idealistic rules of the so called "New Age". We live in a world of our own making that doesn't fit into anyone else's world. Many of you will come to witness our world and to hear the channeled entities that speak through us. You will walk away saying and thinking many different things. When we look in many of your eyes we see that it is also your destiny to no longer fit into anyone else's world Often it is not yet your time to know this or totally live it. We imagine that in coming to be with us you are simply familiarizing yourselves with your future, while continuing to live per spectives that are apart of your past. It is a curious dance that we find ourselves in that requires a tremendous amount of dedication and yields equal amounts o fulfillment. The fulfillment comes from allowing the vast magnificence of the mystery of our extraterrestrial spirits to express freely through into this world To us this is more than anything that this world could offer. It is like coming home and being home while simultaneously realizing that we are strangers in a strange land.

We further imagine that many a you who are drawn to read this are also angelic or extraterrestrial spirits in human bodies. Many of you may still be striving to fit into this odd world of beauty and horror. We cannot join you in this but we know the love you feel in your spirits and hearts and the dreams that burn inside of you. We are consumed by the fire of our spirit, dream. Someday when the divine Dance is complete all of our eyes will have the opportunity to meet in a place of knowing. Our humanness would have this time be soon. Until then we are thankful for the communion we share with other spirits and those transcendent moments of deep recognition of our true family and common purpose.

Our extraterrestrial natures just continue on doing the next thing and then the next thing with infinite patience. All of what we are lives to participate in the manifestation of another way of life on this planet. A world of Divine Expression based in Love. With out even knowing you or your contribution, we thank you for all that you may have offered to this world in support of its divine transformation.

Thanks to all who have posted!
With love :love:

[wynderer]

Dear Agape/Eva -- in your post i responded to, & then in your response to me -- i felt such pain & woundedness coming from you that it hurt me -- i just read a bit of your Bodhgaya interview & some of the thread -- now i understand your hurt --i am very sorry that such a sensitive being as you came under such attack

some one else posted the Boriska [sp?] -- the Boy from Mars story -- the poor boy was so ridiculed & attacked when his story went public that he has retreated from it at this point

on 2 other forums i posted that i thought i might be a walk-in -- bringing both threads to a screeching halt as i often do -- but [to clarify] i don't bring this up in conversations w/humans -- if it fits into the conversation, i'll bring up the topic of ufos [i consider this an ET101 intro question/subject] , &, if i'm feeling particularly frisky, might tell stories i've heard of humans meeting ETs

i'd like to suggest that some, maybe many, of the attacks on you came from other ET walk-ins & hybrids who are aligned w/the NWO & to whom you [& your people] are a threat

i am also sorry for the pain & fatigue you suffer -- i get both, but not all the time -- however, there are times when i am so tired that i think, 'How can anyone be this tired & not be dead?' -- & the pain hits every part of my body at some point

hang in there -- i know you know that this is only one little life, &, even tho it may seem as if it is going to go on for ever, it will end sometime -- & we can always hope that things will change & that your knowledge will be welcomed by the humans at some point

Love, wynderer

[NeoEmc2]

It's nice to see there are many others who have had similar awakening experiences as myself. It's also nice to know that there are a few Law of One students, if you will, that I can share knowledge with.

My story starts when I was about 5-7 years of age, living in Honduras where I was born. I remember thinking as a child "why can't I remember before I was born?" I used to ask myself this question all the time and I would struggle in my mind to find an answer. I never did ask that question to anyone though for some reason, but I distinctly remember asking myself all the time. I also had my very first UFO sighting at that age. What is really interesting is that I had a UFO sighting just last year that was almost identical to the one I had as a child, in plain day. I didn't put the two together until last year. What I saw looked just like what I saw as a little boy. It gave me such a peaceful feeling when I realized they were the same. (some details are missing but I want to keep this short)

Fast forward to when I was 23-25.

At t his age I had already done a good amount of exploring with psychedelics. I was doing a lot of partying and studying as well. At this age is when I took a philosophy course that completely changed the way I thought. My term paper had to do with my own philosophy and what I wrote about had to do with life and rebirth (reincarnation). I've always believed that the human body was no more than a vessel made of energy. That is what I wrote about in my term paper, but not just the human body, but all living things. I wrote my own philosophy as to what happens when something living dies. Where does the energy go? What happens to that energy after going back to the source? In my mind, the energy was reused over and over and over, infinitely.

My concept of reincarnation was not as refined as it is now, but it led me to meet my sweetheart whom has taught me many things. She introduced me to a book called Many Lives Many Masters. After reading the book I was uplifted and felt as thought I had "upgraded" my software. Indeed I had my friends, indeed. This book pretty much confirmed my thoughts of what reincarnation was according to my little philosophy. It was such a wonderful feeling to have had an idea of something and then be confirmed in a book. It was so profound to me that I was changed for ever, but my mind was still not unlocked completely.

My sweetheart started getting political and joined an organization that I wasn't vibing with at the time. We grew apart and eventually broke up and parted ways. I didn't see or speak to her for six years but I never stopped loving her. After we parted ways my step father died and all of a sudden I was left with a bunch of responsibilities I did not have before. I went into depression for about three years. I buried my mind in video games and became anti social. I completely isolated myself from my friends and the world around me. I was trying to be unconscious if you will - trying not to "deal" with life. I was a robot. I went to work, got out, went home, straight to the computer then bed and the next day I would repeat the same thing all over again. This all started happening at the age of 27 roughly.

At the age of 30 a long time friend of mine called me out of the blue and said to me "hey, I just sent you an email, check out the link and watch that film right now!" That film was Zeitgeist. Wow did this jolt my mind and clarify what I already thought the whole time - more confirmation of my own beliefs. It was awesome to have watched that film the first time because it opened the floodgates of exploration for new information. I went bonkers looking for things related to the film. Eventually I stumbled on Project Camelot and you can guess what happened. I literally watched pretty much every single interview Camelot had at the time. It was awesome! Everything made so much sense!

I found myself unplugging from the matrix interview after interview. What a feeling of release I tell you, wow, but it wasn't until I watched David Wilcock's interviews that I truly felt at home. After watching the almost 5 hours of David Wilcock and learning about the Law of One I felt inspired to tell everyone I knew about everything I had learned thus far. I've learned since then that you can't just tell people about these types of things, you need to let them ask you. All you have to do is just BE. Be the change you want to see in the world. Be love, express love and try to find peace and love in every moment. The moment is now, it has always been now and it always will be NOW.

After watching the DW interviews, I went ahead and purchased the Law of One books. I cannot express in words what these books have taught me. It's definitely the icing on the cake. After having read the first book I felt so uplifted and just awesome in general that I thought "is this what ascension is?" And perhaps it is. Perhaps ascension is no more than having a new way of thinking and seeing the world. I guess in a way I've already ascended and I'm just waiting for everyone else to catch up.

The teachings in the Law of One for me are like the ultimate lesson regarding our history and the evolution of our mind body and spirit. I go back to the books as often as I can and most of the time I find new things.

Anyway, that's my story. There's more to it but I don't want to write too much. I just wanted to share a little bit of myself with the rest of you who have been in similar situations.

[Agape]

Hi Wynderer,

thanks for your kind words and insight and hope I did not hurt your emotions , none of my intentions in the least. I just could not resist the temptation to complain about the situation being too real and thought someone may understand, after all ..I know you do .

Life has all facets, here on earth especially, our experiences can be quite tough, don't you think so, love and hatred, truth and lies, good and bad, all the polarities.

Some of us try our best to protect ourselves and that's not really just for sake of 'protecting ourselves' but to protect our purpose and work we feel inspired to do for others..

Now , how do ETs fit to the scheme . You've mentioned Boriska, curiously, when I came back to Europe and talked about what's happened to me in Bodhgaya, a friend of mine printed out an article about him for me to read.
Later on I've seen his interview on Camelot as well . Well done .

I did not know he was ridiculed or threatened , I was not openly either. Kids have one good luck and that is about being able to forget things if they understand they 'don't fit to the system',
i'm not saying it's good or bad but it is about this world not being able to handle the knowledge on level.
I think it's in his best interest to complete his formal education and strive along the system as far as he can to 'prove' his talents and mission for mankind.
Early stars sometimes early set. Life is long. To live here, we need to fit to the system somehow, we all do.

I think that I've been able to digest the data and the whole event and carry on even as I do till now purely because my long meditation training, I've collected lots of inner power before this happened and I've used them all to facilitate myself to carry on in peace, yet, without personal protection from some of my friends and teachers, and extended family, as Barry is,
I might simply gave up on it all till now.

When I tune myself to the ET side of me, I'm most happy, I'm in peace , I'm feeling being me, I've gone through long process since then along these lines .
But the world around accepts very little of it if at all.

I was the same before the Encounter as I'm now but say as if the gravity center of my casual awareness moved more to the core of my being, and that being carries on with experiencing itself as ET, like it or not, physically and mentally,
while the peel of human body and human cover is not too important anymore. It of course brings along whole array of difficulties .

Especially hearing from people, in family, friends etc., who can't but can't really understand this is the case because all they demand from me is : 'feel human', 'talk human', 'think human' and discard the rest.
I can feel it literally pains them to think even it'd be otherwise.

I still very much want to repair this all 'somehow' and have my safe human cover life :sarcastic:

Or do i.

I've not been really 'attacked' as many others were because I'm not argumentative and try to avoid heated discussions at all cost. It's one of those things that 'throw out baby with the tube' or what's the correct version of this saying lol

You are right that many of those working as if on our side, 'for disclosure' , are actually too much tight to the clandestine agenda full of disinformation and I suspect that their sole intent is not only to confuse people but simply to create as much chaos as possible .

And I'm sure that recovery of true human origins is not in their interests at all, in open fields and the moment I step out they'd find ways how to discredit the information.

Or simply, not pay any attention to it, that's painless. I don't think they'd waste a bullet on me even lol that's not necessary .


We come forwards to this world with best intents and need the hand from the human side to be extended too, on correct platform though .

If I see people presenting themselves big way and pushing people successfully to anything from spirituality to mind techniques to disclosure,
I tend to doubt them nowadays. They're 'forces'. Those benevolent ones are not 'forces'.

They watch and wait till time is ready. I've tried to learn from them about 'pushing things forwards' but as far as it does not suit my nature,
I've always failed .

I'm waiting for more enlightenment lol and hope it happens for each and all of us somehow..


Thanks for your empathy and insights, love to you

:grouphug:

[wynderer]

In the early morning hours of Feb 2007, my son and I received our first conscious download indicating we are volunteers. We were both shown six black symbols on a white board of which I thought was Hebrew. The only symbol I can remember is the 5th from the left and it looked like an "I". Once you looked at all of the symbols an immediate and perfect understanding happened, it told us we are like soul migrants or immigrants and not from here. Then it was followed by a telepathic message that was full of imminent warning....."Prepare for what is to come." Then it ended.

Rich

Hi Rich -- perhaps that was the language of your people, the symbols that you saw, the written language -- my understanding is that the Arcturians communicate in the same way -- conveying a lot of info at once -- w/geometrical forms/shapes [this may be a 5D way of communicating]

i personally find it very annoying that my full communication w/, & esp my full knowledge/memories of who my people are, have been deliberately blocked -- i wonder if other ETs here feel the same frustration -- those who have full awareness/communication [contact] likely wisely keep quiet about it

tho it seems that there is an awakening beginning to happen -- Illuminate being guided/prodded?:wink: to start this thread seems to be part of this -- & your experience, Rich, & your son -- it seems others are having awakening/reconnecting experiences here

i have seen an image more than once of those of us from higher dimensions who are here to help -- if/when we make full contact w/our ship[s] --each w/our own people or our mission mates -- the image is of great beams of Light coming down from each ship connecting to their people here in human bodies, anchored by these walk-ins & others whose true home is out there in that big & beautiful Universe -- beams of Light that go right thru all the HAARP/cellphone/HDTV/wireless/chemtrail/etc crap -- w/no harmful intent -- but the NWO is so paranoid about being in total control that apparently they see us as a threat -- & i think this is a coordinated effort by many ET/OD beings, the lift-off

also, maybe we will vastly contribute to the hundredth monkey effect for the humans if my seeing is true & that this lift-off of those who are ready to go home happens

Peace & Freedom & Awakening to who we are, wynderer

[illuminate]

tho it seems that there is an awakening beginning to happen -- Illuminate being guided/prodded?:wink: to start this thread seems to be part of this -- & your experience, Rich, & your son -- it seems others are having awakening/reconnecting experiences here

Yes... this thread was NO accident :love:


i have seen an image more than once of those of us from higher dimensions who are here to help -- if/when we make full contact w/our ship[s] --each w/our own people or our mission mates -- the image is of great beams of Light coming down from each ship connecting to their people here in human bodies, anchored by these walk-ins & others whose true home is out there in that big & beautiful Universe -- beams of Light that go right thru all the HAARP/cellphone/HDTV/wireless/chemtrail/etc crap -- w/no harmful intent -- but the NWO is so paranoid about being in total control that apparently they see us as a threat -- & i think this is a coordinated effort by many ET/OD beings, the lift-off

This is interesting... I've seen something similar to this in dreamland.


also, maybe we will vastly contribute to the hundredth monkey effect for the humans if my seeing is true & that this lift-off of those who are ready to go home happens

:love: :love: :love:

[zelda]

Nice test. I'll repost it here in case someone else missed it (I just found it from your comment kriya):
http://www.scottmandelker.com/Articles/etquiz.html

I've scored 91% there and I suspect most people in the thread are in the same boat. However I still think it might be a mind trap, and, while soothing, it might be a block (ego) in the awakening process.
I am happy, though, that we are doing our jobs just being here alive (as dim says), so it would be irrelevant whether we are ET souls or not. I would not like to not fulfill my mission here if it is true I have one. I think part of the problem is that most of us would like to contribute to the healing of the world in a more direct fashion to have a sense of purpose. However that seeking of purpose outside ourselves is what makes me suspect this might be a block.

EDIT: I am not saying there are no ET souls incarnated here but that flirting with the idea without conclusive proof might be a distraction. Some people are quite sure about themselves and I am fine with that.

Thank you for posting the test website.
I actually got a score of 98, and like I posted before, yes, there is a feeling of loneliness, but I now enjoy the solitude. I have a child, I who is part of the new generation (1995). She is the only person I can talk to that understand everything that is going on. Yet my concern is how to deal with our loved ones. I'm always being told that I am taking nonsense ( I laugh in the inside!) and let it pass, but I wish I could, some way, somehow help them or teach the to understand that there are other beings in this planet (per say).
I believe the feeling of loneliness is much because we cannot share our concerns with our loved ones. How can I tell my spouse, "Hey I had a dream about two suns in the sky" or "Hon, please let me rest, I had and OBE and I'm very tired" or "Hey we had visitors last night while we were asleep". I just can't!
Pretty much Project Avalon Forum is the only "place" where I feel like the intro song of Cheers (sitcom).
Love and light!

[Thinker]

When I was 12 years old I told my mom I did not want children, she asked why. I told her I did not want to subject other to what I was going threw. She later told me that this made her sad. I have no birth children. I’ve been accused of being honest to a fault. Is that possible? I have no karmic debt that I am aware of. First wave.

[Anchor]

@Thinker: *snap*!

Both I, my wife and a number of the "first wave" people I know have no kids.

[wynderer]

Hi John -- i think Thinker was using this an example of how difficult life has been, beginning early [btw, i have enjoyed your posts]

i go thru periods of a lot of questioning myself about this somewhat validated concept that i am not fully human -- like this morning, the thought is coming -- am i just a severely maladjusted human w/a vivid imagination?

i've also thought : are the starseeds/Indigo kids/walk-ins/wanderers etc -- are we really all just a group of humans who managed to sneak a bit of psychic development under the NWO gene radar, & the whole from-the-stars idea is a NWO psy-op to herd us all thru a soul-catching wormhole designed just for those w/gifts like ours?

then my mind goes to the night skies in places i've lived where i can see them -- & the photos of space from Hubble, etc -- & i think 'of course there are conscious beings out there, the way our Creator likes to create! &, if there, why wouldn't some of them visit Earth?'

& then that brings me back to the original questions about myself

re children -- the last time i talked to my daughter i asked her if at any time in her childhood did she wonder if her mother was not human? she said, 'No, but i thought you were weird a lot' -- both my kids called me 'airhead' & 'space cadette' in their disrespectful teen-age yrs

[Hope Light]

Dear all,

reading through this thread made tears roll down my eyes. So many of us, suffering immensely, for years, with more sensitivity that comes with acquiring more knowledge about who we are, what the reality is, the more suffering comes and more difficult becomes to live, just plain live in the body, attacked daily with all sorts of energy-hungry beings, embodied and disembodied. Is there a place and is there a way that we can help each other, get stronger, and in that way maybe help others?

With hope and light,

Lilly

[Anchor]

Hi John -- i think Thinker was using this an example of how difficult life has been, beginning early [btw, i have enjoyed your posts]

BTW I made a huge mistake in my post, now corrected - I meant have NO kids not have kids - lol. Before we married we agreed no kids - neither of us wanted them. Part of this was an instinct we had about our purpose - kids were not on our mission list.

[illuminate]

Dear all,

reading through this thread made tears roll down my eyes. So many of us, suffering immensely, for years, with more sensitivity that comes with acquiring more knowledge about who we are, what the reality is, the more suffering comes and more difficult becomes to live, just plain live in the body, attacked daily with all sorts of energy-hungry beings, embodied and disembodied. Is there a place and is there a way that we can help each other, get stronger, and in that way maybe help others?

With hope and light,

Lilly

Hello Lilly and welcome :love:
and to answer your question... YES, and it's here!

I bet if we ask nicely, we could even have a dedicated thread that is viewable to members only...
where we could share more openly. We are meant to help one another!!!

Would anyone else like that??

:love:

[Hope Light]

Hello Lilly and welcome :love:
and to answer your question... YES, and it's here!

I bet if we ask nicely, we could even have a dedicated thread that is viewable to members only...
where we could share more openly. We are meant to help one another!!!

Would anyone else like that??

:love:

Dear Illuminate, thank you for your welcome. I hope that you are right and that we will manage somehow to organize and provide relief to some people (including myself) and work for the benefit of all. Some day, somehow, this "could be heaven for everyone", regardless how distant and impossible that dream may be.

:grouphug:

[wynderer]

Hi Illuminate -- i support your idea:

'I bet if we ask nicely, we could even have a dedicated thread that is viewable to members only...
where we could share more openly. We are meant to help one another!!'

i'd like to learn more from others why /how they know they are walk-ins, starseeds, etc -- i have felt somewhat naked & exposed here telling some of my stories, hoping to get responses in kind-- i think a less public meeting place would make folks feel safer in sharing -- tho no one else has responded to your post -- ??

[Anchor]

Illuminate why dont you start a social group for wanderers and walkins that is invite only, as a senior member I think you have that power.

[mike1414]

Illuminate why dont you start a social group for wanderers and walkins that is invite only, as a senior member I think you have that power.

cool idea! ;)



peace always
mike

[Caren]

Ditto...:)
love and blessings,
caren

[illuminate]

Awesome... yes, I had forgotten about "groups" I will do that now.
I will create an 'invite only' group and invite those who have posted on this thread,
if anyone else is interested, please send me a PM.

With Love!
:love:

[wynderer]

i'm looking forward to our group, Illuminate!

here's a clip & a link from a recent UFO Digest article -- the abductee seems like an ET to me -- i thought of our Agape

THE MOST UNUSUAL ABDUCTEE
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Submitted by Chris Holly on Tue, 07/06/2010 - 23:55

The abductee I first interviewed who gave me the idea to join together a group of real time abductees was a very special woman. After spending time with her I realized the importance of trying to pull together a united group of real time abductees for the purpose of sharing experiences in order to see if a common thread could be found in those being taken.

This woman agreed to be part of the real time abductee group. Real time abductions are those that take place when the abductees are fully awake and alert going about the routine of their typical day when they are suddenly without consent taken for what is known as lost time events.

Luckily the four abductees I have been writing about were returned after each abduction. I have written about the group so far with articles about the male abductee as well as one of the females who have had lifelong abduction experiences. In this article I will talk about another member of the four abductees a woman who is by far the most interesting abductee I have spent time with.

This woman lives on Long Island. She is a very private person and lives her life as a hermit closed off to all but family and a few select friends. She lives in a highly protected environment in a secure home with family members who defend and protect this woman with determination and love. She is a very unusual person who has had a life time of interference by whatever has been abducting her for nearly her entire life.

This woman is by far the most unusual in appearance of the group of abductees in my interview group.

Her eyes are very large . They are a clear bright blue . I noticed whenever the sun would streak into a room and reach her face she would shield her eyes, blink and move away from the direct light. She has very dark circles under her eyes and very pale skin. I questioned her about her discomfort with the sun and her eyes and she replied, “ The sun is blinding to me, I cannot see at all in strong sunlight.”

Her arms and legs are covered in areas by large bandages. The areas of her legs and arms that were uncovered were covered with what looked like white scars of different lengths and shapes. She was chubby but ageless. I could not tell if she was 40 –50 or 60. She looks to be a middle-aged woman but does not have any wrinkles or the appearance of an older woman. I honestly could not judge her age at all. She has light hair, which is very fine and pale. Not a brown or a blond. Her hair is sort of light without a definite shade, very fine worn mid length.

When with this woman she quickly takes control of the conversation. It is apparent to all she does not take part in small talk as she quickly gets to the point . She suggested I take notes as she was not going to be able to talk that long and did not want to repeat herself. I got out my notebook and listened when she talked.

She told me that odd activity started for her about age 5 or 6. She recalls strange people being around her and being taken away from home often as a child but was never sure where she was or what was happening to her during those events. She would have these encounters at all different times. She may be out playing in her yard or in her room playing with her toys. She would wake up in the middle of the night terrified but had no idea at age 6 exactly what was happening to her.

By the time she was a teen this woman realized she was different from other kids. She was much smarter than the average kids her age and was developing psychic abilities that were very strong and very frightening to her. She could look at someone she did not know and understand immediately things about them. She would know their names, where they lived, what they were thinking and most of all if they were a good or bad person. She could tell her friends what was going to happen to them weeks before the events occurred. Her differences were separating her from friends and family and she was becoming withdrawn and odder by the day.[clip]

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/most-unusual-abductee

[Agape]

I saw a couple of peoople of that sort, can't name them all, can I. Each of the meetings are feeling very personal to me ...

I was standing on bus stop today returning from town and there a young tall very slim lady dressed in white pants white jacket and white cap, with long blond hair and dark sunglasses,
suporting herself with two long walking sticks.
Don't worry she was not doing 'nordic running' , she had some problem with her legs , looked like after double fracture..

I 've met a girl in tube many months ago with face and really big eyes and I knew she's some kind of ET hybrid , she looked to my eyes , I looked to hers and we both beamed with light and then we both cried at the end of the journey.
Each in his own time-line...


We have many brothers and mothers elsewhere ...


:wub:

[blue777]

Awesome... yes, I had forgotten about "groups" I will do that now.
I will create an 'invite only' group and invite those who have posted on this thread,
if anyone else is interested, please send me a PM.

With Love!
:love:

The problem here is that we are all E.T's souls , therefore it is not a matter of getting an esoteric group together it is getting Mankind together
lol
blue....

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well Ok ...

seems we are are more than I thought ... in my own way!! ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACs1qsgY_1U

viking

[illuminate]

The problem here is that we are all E.T's souls , therefore it is not a matter of getting an esoteric group together it is getting Mankind together
lol
blue....

The challenge I see overall is the severe lack of love and understanding for one another.
IMO, we are not all ET souls here, I beg to differ.
Not everyone feels they are an ET soul in a human body... I live with a non ET soul who doesn't
identify (or resonate) with any of this thread or with who I really am.

This isn't some "special" esoteric group formed to foster any more separation... this is about coming
together to support one another in a climate where most do not support, understand, welcome,
celebrate or love one another.

If you somehow feel threatened by this group, please don't.
I am not trying to single out anyone, but rather trying to give voice to specific feelings.
(The number of PM's and responses I've gotten, tells me this was indeed needed)

We are ALL in this together, otherwise none of us would be here!
And getting mankind together is EXACTLY what I want!!!

With Love!
:love:

[frank samuel]

In understanding our past life cycles we begin to have a clearer picture of why you choose to be on this Earth at this time. Many people are not ready to contemplate let along accept that part that connects to the essence of their being. This thread has brought many types of soul searchers together.Those posting on this thread have open their hearts to share a part of them that many people in this world are not willing to accept yet. As we gain a clearer picture of our journey and the many different faces which we have identify with then I think you are pleasantly surprise to find like minded souls who along with you have chosen to be here at this time to get the ball rolling sort of speak.

Many many blessings to all.:thumb:

[blue777]

The challenge I see overall is the severe lack of love and understanding for one another.
IMO, we are not all ET souls here, I beg to differ.
Not everyone feels they are an ET soul in a human body... I live with a non ET soul who doesn't
identify (or resonate) with any of this thread or with who I really am.

This isn't some "special" esoteric group formed to foster any more separation... this is about coming
together to support one another in a climate where most do not support, understand, welcome,
celebrate or love one another.

If you somehow feel threatened by this group, please don't.
I am not trying to single out anyone, but rather trying to give voice to specific feelings.
(The number of PM's and responses I've gotten, tells me this was indeed needed)

We are ALL in this together, otherwise none of us would be here!
And getting mankind together is EXACTLY what I want!!!

With Love!
:love:

quote:Not everyone feels they are an ET soul in a human body...

Course we are all E.T'S Where do all the souls come from if it IS NOT FROM DIFFERENT CONSTELLATIONS..OTHERWISE YOU WOULD NOT BE HERE...secondly the person may not resonate with you because they have the freedom of choice ..making a special group is wrong it is elitist..EGO, it may be wiser to try and understand which constellations we come from
love of light
blue

[illuminate]

quote:Not everyone feels they are an ET soul in a human body...

Course we are all E.T'S Where do all the souls come from if it IS NOT FROM DIFFERENT CONSTELLATIONS..OTHERWISE YOU WOULD NOT BE HERE...secondly the person may not resonate with you because they have the freedom of choice ..making a special group is wrong it is elitist..EGO, it may be wiser to try and understand which constellations we come from
love of light
blue

All of Avalon is a 'special group'... it's not elitist, it's a coming together.
Thanks for your attempt to better my understanding... we could go as far as to say
we are all one, and it matters not which constellations we are from because they ALL
go back to the same source.

The point of this thread is to help those who have begun to identify with the knowing
that we did not originate on Earth. Nothing elitist or EGO about it. Support and
understanding for those who have been shunned by their fellows... I would much
prefer to discuss all of this in a public setting without being labeled, ridiculed or judged.
You have misinterpreted my intentions. Maybe we can agree to disagree as per the
glory of free will.

With Love!
:love:

[blue777]

All of Avalon is a 'special group'... it's not elitist, it's a coming together.
Thanks for your attempt to better my understanding... we could go as far as to say
we are all one, and it matters not which constellations we are from because they ALL
go back to the same source.

The point of this thread is to help those who have begun to identify with the knowing
that we did not originate on Earth. Nothing elitist or EGO about it. Support and
understanding for those who have been shunned by their fellows... I would much
prefer to discuss all of this in a public setting without being labeled, ridiculed or judged.
You have misinterpreted my intentions. Maybe we can agree to disagree as per the
glory of free will.

With Love!
:love:

There are many other groups and forums who ar also as special as Avalon..we are all E.T.......WE ,ALL ON THIS EEARTH HAVE E.T.SOULS therefore it is up to us to create harmony and integrate using altruism love and compassion...where do you think souls come from?
lol
blue

[illuminate]

it is up to us to create harmony and integrate using altruism love and compassion...


Ok, this is where we agree... so let's just focus on that :love:

[Beth]

I hope more people start posting in the group, I'm feeling all alone, LOL!!!

[frank samuel]

To create groups of interest is part of creating a family, I'm sure just like in everybody's family not every one shares the same interest. For those that want to start such groups there should be encouragement not discouragement if you get my meaning. By the same token it is your choice whether you wish to join or not, that being said, I wanted to thank Illuminate for this thread and also for starting the ET Walk-ins and Wanderers group it is a chance for those that wish to participate to continue sharing your experiences and perhaps have a better clarity of purpose.

Many many blessings to all.:wub:

[NancyV]

There are many other groups and forums who ar also as special as Avalon..we are all E.T.......WE ,ALL ON THIS EEARTH HAVE E.T.SOULS therefore it is up to us to create harmony and integrate using altruism love and compassion...where do you think souls come from? lol blue
Perhaps you might agree, blue, that all souls are a part of the source? So if we consider the source to be ET then I guess we are all ET souls. :)
_____________________
I have found that although I know and have experienced the absolute power of love and feel great compassion for all beings in whatever stage they happen to be, whether here or in any other dimension or plane of existence, I also am not adverse to using tools such as aggressiveness, anger, force and manipulation, etc. whatever works to communicate on the level that another being is able to hear and feel, including the use of weapons such as guns, knives, etc.

When we deal with other beings here or in the lower dimensions such as the astral, we often must contend with what seem like negative agendas. Here on the earthplane these negative agendas can be lethal to our bodies and our minds. I know how to use tools and energies that many may consider to be negative, but I only use them in situations where a love communication has little or no affect on changing the energy or saving a life. I also refuse to be intimidated or accept fear if others are attempting to manipulate me in that way.

I have found that love always works when encountering negative agenda beings on other planes, but does NOT always work here on the earthplane, although I have used it on very dangerous and nasty people and sometimes love has worked, but sometimes it doesn't. This is why I do not consider that a being of love and light never does what some see as negative. Of course I am a being of love and light but I have never been adverse to doing whatever I need to do to protect myself and others from beings with negative agendas, and I'm very good at it. Rarely do I find myself in that position anymore as I am now 63, but I often encountered excessive negativity and danger in my early years.

Some of us volunteers or walk-ins are here as warriors. A true warrior should be unlimited in his ability to use all tools and weapons that are appropriate for each situation. He must also learn great discernment in knowing when to use which method of communication. If you find yourself in a situation where you must kill another who is a threat to yourself or someone else, I see nothing wrong with moving them out of this existence into their next experience. That could ultimately be the most loving thing to do for all involved.

"Thou shalt not kill" is one of the biblical commandments, among several others, that I think are incorrect and certainly misinterpreted. Perhaps it would have been better to have said "Thou shalt not kill easily and it should be avoided if at all possible unless you must protect your life or another's life", but that was probably too wordy for the stone tablets. :)

All beings in physical bodies participate in "killing" other life, whether you eat meat, are a vegetarian, support your country's wars, or whether you directly kill someone in defense. There is no death so one's soul cannot be killed. You can disable someone's body so it is no longer able be inhabited by their soul and is no longer a threat to others. Their soul then goes on to whatever it's next lesson/destination is. Certainly in the area of the death penalty I believe that it is often more merciful to kill rather than to keep an excessively dangerous and nasty person in prison for life.

Some people never attract negative energy, but we do not all have the same missions in this life or need the same lessons at the same time. I agree that creating harmony is the highest good, but one will not attain their full power until and unless one learns how to communicate and act most effectively according to the needs of each situation on every dimension and level of existence.

Nancy :)

[blue777]

quote nancy
Perhaps you might agree, blue, that all souls are a part of the source? So if we consider the source to be ET then I guess we are all ET souls..i agree

IF WE ARE STARTING FROM A WRONG PREMISE......not just a few people who are E.T SOULS .ALL PEOPLE ON THE EARTH ARE E.T. SOULS , therefore we should be asking from where in the Universe do we come from?.......
regards
blue

[Beth]

quote nancy
Perhaps you might agree, blue, that all souls are a part of the source? So if we consider the source to be ET then I guess we are all ET souls..i agree

IF WE ARE STARTING FROM A WRONG PREMISE......not just a few people who are E.T SOULS .ALL PEOPLE ON THE EARTH ARE E.T. SOULS , therefore we should be asking from where in the Universe do we come from?.......
regards
blue

Why does it matter where we came from? We're here now and that's not gonna change. And it's your opinion we are starting with the wrong premise. You don't like that we have formed a group, fine. But the people who have done so did it because they feel more comfortable sharing things privately and not being hounded by people who run around calling them wrong, which is pretty much what you are doing.

[blue777]

Why does it matter where we came from? We're here now and that's not gonna change. And it's your opinion we are starting with the wrong premise. You don't like that we have formed a group, fine. But the people who have done so did it because they feel more comfortable sharing things privately and not being hounded by people who run around calling them wrong, which is pretty much what you are doing.

Anything that is private is not altruism love or working as one
lol
blue

[Agape]

It's The Ultimate Truth that by designation we are all extra-terrestrials .

It's just that most don't recall it ..

:panda:

[NancyV]

quote nancy
Perhaps you might agree, blue, that all souls are a part of the source? So if we consider the source to be ET then I guess we are all ET souls.

IF WE ARE STARTING FROM A WRONG PREMISE......not just a few people who are E.T SOULS .ALL PEOPLE ON THE EARTH ARE E.T. SOULS , therefore we should be asking from where in the Universe do we come from?....... regards, blue

I think "WHERE" is irrelevant and unanswerable. There is no "where" when you are dealing with source, infinity and timelessness. Certainly there is no "where" that has any real importance other than to satisfy our intellectual curiosity and cannot truly be communicated with words or signs and maps. "Where" is a concept that we who live in 3D like to think about, but it is not a concept that has much meaning when one realizes that "where" is here and "when" is now.

Nancy :)

[MariaDine]

i'm looking forward to our group, Illuminate!

here's a clip & a link from a recent UFO Digest article -- the abductee seems like an ET to me -- i thought of our Agape

THE MOST UNUSUAL ABDUCTEE
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Submitted by Chris Holly on Tue, 07/06/2010 - 23:55

The abductee I first interviewed who gave me the idea to join together a group of real time abductees was a very special woman. After spending time with her I realized the importance of trying to pull together a united group of real time abductees for the purpose of sharing experiences in order to see if a common thread could be found in those being taken.

This woman agreed to be part of the real time abductee group. Real time abductions are those that take place when the abductees are fully awake and alert going about the routine of their typical day when they are suddenly without consent taken for what is known as lost time events.

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/most-unusual-abductee

----------------

WHAT THE WOMAN TELLS ABOUT THE ALIENS IS IN ACCORD WITH THE INFORMATION WE ALSO HAVE HERE IN PORTUGAL (AND BRASIL).

Namaste

[blue777]

I think "WHERE" is irrelevant and unanswerable. There is no "where" when you are dealing with source, infinity and timelessness. Certainly there is no "where" that has any real importance other than to satisfy our intellectual curiosity and cannot truly be communicated with words or signs and maps. "Where" is a concept that we who live in 3D like to think about, but it is not a concept that has much meaning when one realizes that "where" is here and "when" is now.

Nancy :)

If we are all E.T'S , THEN WE MUST COME FROM DIFFERENT CONSTELLATIONS , how do we discern which constellation?
regards

[shiva777]

putting it simply...

ALL HUMANS are a mix of ET race strains and DNA templates

there are 3 main groups of Et's who are embodied in HUMAN bodies...these 3 groups are

1)humans who MOSTLY hold angelic human DNA templating.;.the 12 strand template
2)humans who MOSTLY hold Annunaki DNA templating...the 11 strand template
3)humans who Mostly hold Drakonian DNA termplating...the 10 strand template

we(starseeds/indigos) ,who hold the 12 strand template have been put here to heal ourselves and help heal those with Annunaki and Drakonian templating back to the Divine Human template(12 strand)....those withMostly Annunaki and Drakonian templates(the Illumniati and TPTB blood/DNA lines and those angelic humans who have been hybridised with those DNA templates) MOSTLY do not understand that what they are fighting for is a hopeless fight as they need the 12 strand DNA to achieve true Liberation

The wars and conflicts and dark agendas are all about these Annunaki and Drakonian race lines fighting over energy and stargate access so they can vampirise earths and the higher dimensional realms as they believe they need to do that to survive,they also believe that Angelic Humans need to be almost totally wiped off the planet(they need some of us here because we carry the codes to access the stargates)...this is what the Israeli/Iraq/Afghanistan and all wars are about...it's about stargate and energetic vampirisation...these are Annunaki/Drakonian entities in HUMAN form fighting over energetic territory...it is all higher dimensional battles being reflected down here on 3d earth that most humans think is just about religious and economic battles and "negative ego" wars...what it is really about is stargate and energetic territorial dominion...they are ET battles here on earth...a perfect example is the Christian religion..Catholics are Drakonian doctrine/Protestants are Annunaki agenda and doctrine...to understand more look at this

http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/ascension-and-awakening/human-annunaki-drakonian-dynamics/

[xbusymom]

If we are all E.T'S , THEN WE MUST COME FROM DIFFERENT CONSTELLATIONS , how do we discern which constellation?
regards

not trying to pick a fight but... what does it matter WHICH Constellations souls are from...

if you stop and consider that all souls are from OFF THIS WORLD (not of THIS 'world/dimension') and we have entered a body in this 3D dimension to 1) help each other wake up to the facts of the energy-mechanics of the cosmos or 2) work with each other to 'get it together' for ourselves (individually or as a people or both)...

to insist that everyone 'pick their side' only furthers the separatist agenda that is already in place... we need to counteract the effects of that with the realization that we are ALL (our bodies on this Earth) from the solid-energy manifested by thought activation... so lets just get it 'TOGETHER' in as many avenues/ways as possible and start working towards a perspective of INCLUSION, not EXCLUSION???

[Luke]

not trying to pick a fight but... what does it matter WHICH Constellations souls are from...

if you stop and consider that all souls are from OFF THIS WORLD (not of THIS 'world/dimension') and we have entered a body in this 3D dimension to 1) help each other wake up to the facts of the energy-mechanics of the cosmos or 2) work with each other to 'get it together' for ourselves (individually or as a people or both)...

to insist that everyone 'pick their side' only furthers the separatist agenda that is already in place... we need to counteract the effects of that with the realization that we are ALL (our bodies on this Earth) from the solid-energy manifested by thought activation... so lets just get it 'TOGETHER' in as many avenues/ways as possible and start working towards a perspective of INCLUSION, not EXCLUSION???

+1
Think what energy pattern you create.
Walk-in, wanderer or just one that seek "outside the box", it does not matter. What matters is World you aspire to create.

[Hope Light]

:argue:

:boink:

[Hope Light]

putting it simply...

ALL HUMANS are a mix of ET race strains and DNA templates

there are 3 main groups of Et's who are embodied in HUMAN bodies...these 3 groups are

1)humans who MOSTLY hold angelic human DNA templating.;.the 12 strand template
2)humans who MOSTLY hold Annunaki DNA templating...the 11 strand template
3)humans who Mostly hold Drakonian DNA termplating...the 10 strand template

we(starseeds/indigos) ,who hold the 12 strand template have been put here to heal ourselves and help heal those with Annunaki and Drakonian templating back to the Divine Human template(12 strand)....those withMostly Annunaki and Drakonian templates(the Illumniati and TPTB blood/DNA lines and those angelic humans who have been hybridised with those DNA templates) MOSTLY do not understand that what they are fighting for is a hopeless fight as they need the 12 strand DNA to achieve true Liberation

The wars and conflicts and dark agendas are all about these Annunaki and Drakonian race lines fighting over energy and stargate access so they can vampirise earths and the higher dimensional realms as they believe they need to do that to survive,they also believe that Angelic Humans need to be almost totally wiped off the planet(they need some of us here because we carry the codes to access the stargates)...this is what the Israeli/Iraq/Afghanistan and all wars are about...it's about stargate and energetic vampirisation...these are Annunaki/Drakonian entities in HUMAN form fighting over energetic territory...it is all higher dimensional battles being reflected down here on 3d earth that most humans think is just about religious and economic battles and "negative ego" wars...what it is really about is stargate and energetic territorial dominion...they are ET battles here on earth...a perfect example is the Christian religion..Catholics are Drakonian doctrine/Protestants are Annunaki agenda and doctrine...to understand more look at this

http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/ascension-and-awakening/human-annunaki-drakonian-dynamics/

Very interesting point of view, Shiva777, thank you for sharing. I suppose whatever these different type of human beings discuss about, it would be colored by their "nature". It seems that the very difference between the human lineage (templates) could be the background of the cases of wonderful teachers whose teachings have been terribly twisted and corrupted over the years by the most "devoted" disciples. The teachers were or have been one type of people and their teachings interpreted and further explained by second or third type of people, or fourth and fifth...Not even religion can give one comfort of truth...

[Arpheus]

I never got an invite for the group i feel there is some profiling going on here hehehehe,glad to see how far this thread has been going so far,many good posts on here,we got a good bunch.:biggrin1:

[CetaceousOne]

I recently had a reading that from a friend that channels an entity named Dr. Peebles.

The following is an excerpt from a transcript of the reading:


"Yes, I guess I am wondering if there are others present here at this time, and if so whom.. and do they have anything they wish to tell me?"


1:18 God bless you. Yes, indeed. There are those here, of the Space Federation. Yes indeed, you have allies. Ooh, in high places! There are those from, our space brothers and sisters all around you. Sometimes you think odd things-that people think you are a little strange. Well that’s because, my dear friend, you are not from this planet. Do you understand? And so there are those connections there who watch over their own! Do not think it is too odd, for there are many on the planet right now who are from other galaxies. Do you understand? You aren’t too surprised about that, are you?

“I suspected as much.”


And when I asked where I was from, this is the response I got:


“It does. Are they willing to tell me where exactly it is that I am from?”

Not at this time! Not at this time. That information will come as you are ready. As you will allow it. We want you to accept where you are right now and not focus on where you’ve been. Do you understand that? You’ve chosen to be in this density. And yes, at times we understand the challenges, we understand the personal pain. But you are here, for a purpose. For the highest good of mother earth, of all those around you. For your own personal benefit. For your own personal growth.



I hope sharing this helps someone.....

C1

[blue777]

Totally agree with Shiva and Hope Light, also we have Pleiadian and orion souls
quote
difference between the human lineage (templates) could be the background of the cases of wonderful teachers whose teachings have been terribly twisted ..

.exactly and we have to find out where we come from Pleiades etc

QUOTE

to insist that everyone 'pick their side' only furthers the separatist agenda that is already in place... we need to counteract the effects of that with the realization that we are ALL (our bodies on this Earth) from the solid-energy manifested by thought activation... so lets just get it 'TOGETHER' in as many avenues/ways as possible and start working towards a perspective of INCLUSION, not EXCLUSION???

Thanks xbusyman......the thinking behind this is to get to the truth and reality of where we are from, that we are all E.T'S AND NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS ONE ... WITH ALTRUISM AND COMPASSION

[mike1414]

we (collectively and individually) come from so much further than a specific point of origin on our (thus-far understood) cosmic map....
to suggest that one comes from a certain constellation or part of the galaxy is imo just the same as me saying i am scottish, or european....
when we can overcome this idea of separateness we bring ourselves closer to the understanding that we are one... dont get me wrong, it is exciting to think of how far we have travelled or where we have lived b4 but ultimately our experience is here and now... we should embrace it with love

as the saying goes...it really isnt so much about where we've come from...it is infact about where we are going...

be happy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYB3fEdytJM

in love and peace
mike

[Caren]

Hi Mike,
Thank you Mike for your beautiful post, and I loved the video. Those crop circles are stunning. It would be
difficult to see all the different crop circles and not feel the peace.
love to all,
caren

[Ba-ba-Ra]

not trying to pick a fight but... what does it matter WHICH Constellations souls are from...

to insist that everyone 'pick their side' only furthers the separatist agenda that is already in place... we need to counteract the effects of that with the realization that we are ALL (our bodies on this Earth) from the solid-energy manifested by thought activation... so lets just get it 'TOGETHER' in as many avenues/ways as possible and start working towards a perspective of INCLUSION, not EXCLUSION???


Hi All, Great discussion. I agree with xbusymom in that we need to let go of all labels to define ourselves (sometimes difficult to do). If at this point we can simply think of ourselves as Human Beings who for perhaps many different reasons are here at this time. Focus on our similarities. We all need and want good clean water, air & food. We all want to be recognized for our goodness and we all want forgiveness for our failings.

Scientist says that we are only using 3% of our DNA. My personal experience and belief is that I'm now supposed to focus on activating the inactive 97%. I don't know if this is true for everyone, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to try. Imagine our potential if successful.

Mike, I love the Crop Circles and watch for the new ones. I believe that meditating on them helps to activate this unemployed part of our DNA, but perhaps this is just for me. Someone said they didn't know what was more amazing that Crop Circles were happening or that most of us were ignoring them. I suspect that's because the PTB have done lots to discredit this miracle.

Love and Unity will ultimately be the things that save us ~ if we can only get to and stay in that place. Love you All and am enjoying the conversation, Ba-ba-Ra

[illuminate]

Hi All, Great discussion. I agree with xbusymom in that we need to let go of all labels to define ourselves (sometimes difficult to do). If at this point we can simply think of ourselves as Human Beings who for perhaps many different reasons are here at this time. Focus on our similarities. We all need and want good clean water, air & food. We all want to be recognized for our goodness and we all want forgiveness for our failings.


I do agree, very much so... and I hate labels, really.

I know at some level we are all the same. We are all ET's the same way we are all human. And we are all sharing this experience.

This thread was started to help some of the like-minded folk to express themselves.
The 'group' is neither based on elitism or ego and was solely formed to offer SUPPORT to these like-minded folks in less public setting. This is done in a lot of situations where folks don't feel comfortable expressing intimate details in front of a lot of people, especially if they feel they will be judged for it. No hidden agenda, no profiling, no exclusion... really very simple and honest, kinda like what AA does for alcoholics.

Thanks again for ALL your contributions!!!

With Love.
:love:

[Arpheus]

Thank you for the video mike!:angel:

[blue777]

I do agree, very much so... and I hate labels, really.

I know at some level we are all the same. We are all ET's the same way we are all human. And we are all sharing this experience.

This thread was started to help some of the like-minded folk to express themselves.
The 'group' is neither based on elitism or ego and was solely formed to offer SUPPORT to these like-minded folks in less public setting. This is done in a lot of situations where folks don't feel comfortable expressing intimate details in front of a lot of people, especially if they feel they will be judged for it. No hidden agenda, no profiling, no exclusion... really very simple and honest, kinda like what AA does for alcoholics.

Thanks again for ALL your contributions!!!

With Love.
:love:

All souls are a part of the source?

All souls are a part of the source? So if we consider the source to be ET then I guess we are all ET souls. IF WE ARE ARE ALL e.t souls where did we come from?, That depends on the frequency of harmonics within us......therefore we are uniting all different E.T SOULS ON THE EARTH,WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON THE EARTH WITH DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES.... therefore we have the freedom of choice ,WE CAN STAY ON THE EARTH or go back to our different constellations we have to be with the right people, and all types of e.t souls will be in harmony,I personally feel I come from the Pleiades,and that is the hard bit finding people of the same frequency but still have compassion for other souls....... with compassion altruism and love....we will conquer..if you start a private e.t. group you fall into the EGO TRAP.
regards
Blue

[000]

Ultimately, everyone and everything is birthed of the same source. The Infinite in which everything Is, Has Been and Always Will Be. Despite all of the various levels of evolution, the same 'star dust' permeates everything, we are Breath which itself is breathing Breath... ad infinitum.

Despite all the pain, and all the love, that everyone experiences in flesh bodies and spirit bodies, we will all eventually merge back with the Infinite, the Source, the Un-nameable [all labels for the same thing]. What I have learned is that one need not go anywhere specific to be a part of the Infinite, we already are, just in 'excited' states. It's up to us as individual 'chords' of consciousness as to when and how the 'bow' stops drawing across us as it were. Everything is constantly evolving and synthesizing, gaining knowledge, becoming knowledge, this is only a small dust particle of how I understand its workings, the rest is beyond this body's comprehension, but despite its magnificence and intricacy it is also so simple and elegant at the very same time. [From time to time I get very little glimpses of the 'design', one could say, and I just smile because it's so perfect, with all its imperfection. Two sides of the same coin...]

In the very very long term, we will be alright, we *are* alright, each and every one of us. The 'good', the 'evil', everything is where is needs to be. Balance/equilibrium comes to everything no matter which path. It is just a matter of how one prefers to experience during this path. Riddled with bad or good karma you could say, this really only defines experience and choice, but the outcome of Infinite is always balance :] A lot of it is about learning. One needs darkness to know what light is and one needs light to know what darkness is, upon an infinity of other lessons... a little thought I meditate on often: Change is constant and constants are changing.

Some souls will stay here, some will go 'home' because they want/need/have to, some will dissolve and merge, some will evolve and merge, some will do things I have no words, nor even concepts, how to describe...

All roads lead to Rome as the cliche goes. May you all find your way to wherever you need to go as the crow flies :plane:

[Anchor]

.if you start a private e.t. group you fall into the EGO TRAP.
regards
Blue

I think you got the wrong end of the stick Blue.

The reason to start a group has more to do with common sense on the internet and allowing people some privacy amongst a known audience and has very little to do with eliteism.

The purpose of that, should be obvious some people may be less inclined to write certain things that are exposed widely to public view, whereas in a private group, more can be said and this could be helpful.

John..

[Beth]

I think you got the wrong end of the stick Blue.

The reason to start a group has more to do with common sense on the internet and allowing people some privacy amongst a known audience and has very little to do with eliteism.

The purpose of that, should be obvious some people may be less inclined to write certain things that are exposed widely to public view, whereas in a private group, more can be said and this could be helpful.

John..

John, I'm done trying to explain things to him. Some people just only see things their way. Oh well, guess I'm just elitist, LOL!

[Buchanan561]

So what am I? Many wonderful posts and stories here on this thread Maybe you can decide what some of my experiences may mean.

I was in full agreement with Bill in his thread regarding Disclosure and Steven Greer's tenant that all ETs were benevolent. I believe that Mr. Greer's belief that Military Labs were involved in all abductions to be a false conclusion that he has come to as I was abducted( ??taken) in the mid 1980's and there was no military involvement with what happened to me that would make me believe that statement. (regarding statement #2) I am going to post this story here because it fits in here better than on that thread as people are talking about experiences that spoke to them about who they might be. I am still wondering myself even though something has been hitting me over the head for many years.

The two male entities that abducted me, (took me) out of my home in the middle of the night, in the mid 80's were not from any military project. That is unless it was well hidden from me which I do not believe. I wrote about this in my journals a long time ago. I have added my interpretation of the event from my today's knowledge which I did not have circa 25 years ago. I wrote about it after it happened but at the time I knew nothing about abductions or any reality of Extra Terrestrials. I did not understand what was going on.

I lived alone, and was up late one night reading the book WATCHERS by Raymond Fowler. I was at the part where Betty Andreasson under hypnosis was being told by an entity that he was going to take her to see 'her creator'. At this time in my life I thought that all this was just something they mostly created in order to write a book. I was very spiritual but not aware of any such things as ETs much less a presence on the planet. Was I wrong? I'm still not sure.
Anyway......all of a sudden as I sat there reading I became aware that I was not alone. I could not see anything, hear anything, etc......but I certainly felt a presence and knew that I was not alone, that there was an unseen presence that had just suddenly appeared by my side. This immediately invoked some fear in me which I tried to suppress. I quietly laid the book down on the coffee table, got up out of my recliner chair, looked around and then walked into my bedroom and lay down across the foot of my king size bed. I lay there knowing that 'fear' within me if left unabated could draw negative things to me. So I tried thinking of just anything in order to get away from this awareness of some presence......when..... all of a sudden something made me again fell the presence only stronger. I spoke saying...."There is someone here, I know someone is here, ...who are you and what do you want of me" At this time I felt something strange happen to me which I did not understand at the time but many years later figured out just what that was. I found myself looking up. There before me stood an ???entity....totally human in appearance, young male, bronze colored skin, just standing there smiling at me. I said "who are you and what do you want of me?" He replied saying "WE have come to take you on a journey". At this time I could feel someone behind me sit down on the edge of the bed. I could feel the bed move with his weight.. I repeated the question as I also said, "there is someone behind me sitting on my bed. I want to see him too." For some reason I knew that it was another male. A voice came from behind me spoke and said "no, I cannot let you see me for you would be afraid" I said "No, I will not be afraid, I want to see you" He again stated "No, I cannot let you see me because you will be afraid as I do not look the way you would expect me to look. You would be afraid.". I declared again that I would not be afraid and demanded to see him. I felt his weight lift off the bed as he arose and walked around to stand by the young male being who had already spoken to me. He was right. He did look 'strange' but his looks did not create fear in me. Days later after this event I thought about who he looked like that caused me to not be afraid. (that's another story in itself I have a picture of that) They both picked up my body from the bed, adjusted my weight between them, and we arose into the air going through the ceiling then I felt us going through the roof of my house, through my trees and up up up and then headed south. We were not in any craft or vehicle. They were carrying me bodily through space between them in their arms. Then all of a sudden there was a 90degree turn as we started going right strait down and into the earth. We traveled for some time just through the earth until we came to a stop in a large cave. They put me down with my back against the cave wall and then stood back from me. Then all of a sudden from an arched doorway into another room to the cave came a young woman with a dress that looked like either Indian dress, or Egyptian dress, she was young and had light bronze skin like the younger male. In her hands she carried a bowl of water with a towel hanging across her arm. She walked up to my feet, knelt down and started to bathe them. She washed my feet, then dried them. For some reason I told her to stop as I did not like having someone touching me in any such way. She said nothing, just nodded and stood back. To my right there was another space in this cave which was much larger than the space where we were. All of a sudden the floor of this cave space began to tremble and shake. It got worse as I watched. Then the ground started to crack open and smoke (or steam) started coming from the crack. The shaking got worse and I felt that the ground there was going to burst open wider and (now this is strange) and a 'dragon' would come out from there. This I knew and caused me to be afraid for the first time. I looked to my two 'captors?' and told them "I do not belong here. Take me out of here" They both smiled and said to me....."You are right Sue, you do not belong here" and they again picked me up and we went back up through the earth. This is where my memory of the trip cuts off and then takes up again somewhere else. I did not understand the 'missing part' of the abduction but do today. They took me somewhere else and my next conscious memory is of waking up, floating on some cloud. But it was not a real cloud, but more of a sky raft made to look like a cloud but looked more like fluffed cotton. I looked around to see more of same clouds there. There was light but no source of light. I could see the sky but it looked strange. I looked down below and there was a sandy beach, water like from a lake or ocean, green plants etc. I felt like I was basking in the sun and the light was very soothing and even healing. But something struck me as strange. I felt like I was in some kind of large false container and not actually floating on a cloud in the sky. That it was not really outside as we know outside but I was in a large container. Looking back I think they left me there in that setting until I became aware that I was in a container because the next thing I knew I woke up in my bed the next morning and I have no memory of going to bed, but there I was.....in my bed and not on it. Many years later I figured out that the container that I awaken and found myself in was part of a Mother Ship. They have miles and miles of space on their mother ships, and I believe they wanted me to 'see and feel' that I was in a container so that years later and learned more I would realize that I was actually in a mother ship.

There is a portion of this event that I have no memory of. I remember this beginning, and the end where I first 'woke up' or should I say, allowed to remember, and then I woke up the next morning in my bed. These two were very kind to me in the parts of the 'abduction?' that I was allowed to remember. But the blank areas I don't know what happened.

But this was just the beginning's of quite a few times when I was taken after finding myself OUT OF BODY which happened often after this. Taken to other dimensions and shown things, told things, regressed bodily to previous happenings in my life and some of what must have been previous lives, and one I believe to be a future life. When they spoke to me, which was always from behind my right shoulder they always spoke to me as Sue, which is the name I was called by until I was much older. Apparently I was well known among them.....who ever they were. Never in any of these episodes were there anything frightening, or in any way harmful to me. Some entity or entities were busy teaching me and .........I now believe trying to wake me up. . Some episodes when I would find myself in front of a group of men dressed like monks in long brown robes telling me things about the/my world. Things, by the way they talked, I already knew but was refusing to remember. They always addressed me as Sue. saying..."Sue, this is happening in the world today and it is because of this", and ....."as we have told you many times before, this is the way it is, and this is what is happening." There always seemed to be some kind of desperation in their voices like they were getting impatient with me as they continued to ask me if I was sure that I was not ready to remember the meetings and what they said. They appeared they trying to wake me up from some kind of amnesia because at the end of each meeting they would ask me "Sue, are you sure you are not ready to remember these meetings when you wake up?, and I would hear myself saying "Yes, I am sure I am not ready to remember these meetings", and a heavy curtain would come crashing down taking away all the information they had given to me leaving only the memory of the meeting and being asked if I was sure that I was not ready to remember the meetings". To this day I don't know why, in that state, I was refusing to let my aware consciousness know about.
I was not as advanced in those days as I am today. From all those meetings and meetings, can't call them abductions except for the first one.

I realize that I am here for some specific reason (perhaps) which I am only waking up to. Some readings I had at the 'Berkley Psychic Institute' here in California shed some light on some things for me. Revealed some things to me that caused me to understand why I am who I am in this lifetime why some people do not like me, even hate me, and try to destroy me, and are so opposite to who I am that there is no way they can understand WHO I AM. which by the way......they do not know. I know that I am not normal human the way everyone around me is human.......although I am here in this human body. For years I have heard this voice, over and over saying............Sue, Know you not who you are.?? While at the Institute they told me that there was a being in my aura and wanted to know if I wanted them to get rid of it for me. I ask them to tell me about the beings. One turned out to be my grandmother Rose, whom people claim I look just like, but the other one they said "was a very ethical being who seemed to have a lot of influence over me. You are very a very ethical person Emma and those ethics, which you may not want, are being taught to you by this being. I was indignant and told them no. That if that is his calling, then so be it. We all need all the good influences we can get. But I already knew about this being as I had called on it for help many times. And always help that helped me to help others.

I had a reading once by an professor at our local college in which I was taking a fun class in. She taught there and did readings. She also worked with another person who was an RN and ex doctors wife who lost her license because of addiction to Demerol, a pain killer drug. This person was not a nice person and she did some horrible things to me at the hospital where I worked. She tried to get me fired because she wanted some one else to have my job as head nurse of the Emergency Department. Behind the scenes she told horrible lies about me and tried to manipulate the system. I went for a reading from the professor. She was silent and seemed to be troubled. Then she said to me.....You have no Karma. I said what? She looked puzzled and said......"you have no Karma". She began to cry. I could see that something seemed to be controlling what she was saying. She said, you have a clear and wide path ahead of you and you can create anything you want and it will come. You have no debts to pay. You have a clean slate. She said, shaking her head.......I have never seen this in a reading before and don't know how to handle it. She told me to keep on my path and never look back. And that was the end. A couple of days later when I returned to work someone met me at the door to tell me that this other person who I shall call Terry, had suddenly resigned and had left for a city 500 miles away. They did not understand why the sudden departure of this person. All of a sudden it was in my head and I knew why she left. Her friend who did the reading had told her what she saw and she fled in fear. She had to get away from the person she had abused so badly. But I wondered why the fear of me as I knew that I was not capable of harming her. But perhaps those who kept watch over me may have caused her to be afraid. She worked with dead souls trying to help their cross over? Not sure about that work. Little did she know that I was not capable of such a thing as retaliating against her. All my life I had been abused by people because they could feel the vibrations that I 'was different' but did not know what that difference was so they chose to abuse me for being different. However.... I have never been able to do anything, or say anything that could/would cause pain or suffering to anyone, either to their physical being, their psychic being, their spiritual being....could not do it. I am not wired to do any of those things and that is why I am wide open for abuse and this I have always gotten and from my family especially. Sadly to say, most or all of my relatives could be summed up as 'Organic Portals'. And once I understood that state of being I understood why they were the way they were and chose to walk away from them. Except to help them when they needed it which usually meant money etc, but to keep out other path. And that family of Organic Portals that I find myself with in this lifetime is why I am here. To try to help them but they do not have the ability to absorb, or even hear anything. Some or most are totally un-educable. They just cannot learn or see anything. They are fast asleep. They see me as an evil godless entity without hope. But I do not let this destroy me. But I came to walk among them to set an example of how one should live. Some of it rubbed off.

At the Berkley Psychic Institute during a reading I was told that there were six spirits that I had promised to bring into this life time by birthing them. However, there was one still over there who I did not bring through and that that spirit was very angry with me. She said that one of my children was an interloper and had jumped into the body that was created for someone else. And that person I would soon know who it was because it would reveal its evil self to me. Well, that other entity that I had promised to birth into life came to me through adoption. She was taken away from my son who was into drugs by CPS (child protective services) and put into my care in 1992. I later adopted her and her half sister who was not my grandchild and I raised them both. And today, many years later I know who the interloper was, and she laughs and states that she knows that it was her who stole the birth right. and she even did things to attempt to destroy this child after I adopted her. Another story I will not tell. So the 6th (actually 7th) entity did not come to me through my birthing her, but came from my son whose girlfriend birthed her and she made her way to me that way. She has my genes.

In the spring of 1980 I had an experience. I was asleep in bed at night when all of a sudden I was awaken and looked up and saw an infant floating above me over my bed. It had on a flowing white gown. I could see its face and hands. I acknowledged to this 'apparition' , I see you there, who are you and what do you need of me?". There was not answer. After the third time my asking and mentioning to it, 'you are an infant' it responded. It said "Yes, I have come to you in this form so you would not be afraid. But I have come with a message for you."
I said "OK"
The infant said, "In many years to come from now there will be terrible times in the world. And during these times you will be afraid because you will believe that there is no way you can survive. But I have come as a comforter, and because I have come and spoken these words to you, you will remember all the days of your life and will not forget. This is the comforter that I bring, "THAT YOU WILL SURVIVE."
The Infant was right. I have never forgotten nor shall I. I do not know if the infant was talking about physical survival, or spiritual survival. I tend to believe the second.

Sorry this is so long, and boring for most but some silent readers may get something from it.
So......wonderful and enlightened people of this forum. What am I?? I only know that I am different from others in my close circle.

[Arpheus]

Thats some pretty amazing stuff buchanan.I dont think any of us are entitled to tell you what to make of it tho,thats very personal and its meant for you only,its your journey and your journey alone my friend,we ll have different journeys and destinations,but based on what you wrote you will figure it out and be alright i wouldn't worry too much about.

[NeoEmc2]

All souls are a part of the source?

All souls are a part of the source? So if we consider the source to be ET then I guess we are all ET souls. IF WE ARE ARE ALL e.t souls where did we come from?, That depends on the frequency of harmonics within us......therefore we are uniting all different E.T SOULS ON THE EARTH,WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON THE EARTH WITH DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES.... therefore we have the freedom of choice ,WE CAN STAY ON THE EARTH or go back to our different constellations we have to be with the right people, and all types of e.t souls will be in harmony,I personally feel I come from the Pleiades,and that is the hard bit finding people of the same frequency but still have compassion for other souls....... with compassion altruism and love....we will conquer..if you start a private e.t. group you fall into the EGO TRAP.
regards
Blue

Not for nothing but I think the one falling into the ego trap is you trying to be right about everything you've been saying regarding where we come from.

You'll find out where you come from when you come to pass. Perhaps you are feeling a little impatient?

As others have stated, that doesn't really matter. In the grand scheme of things, we are one and where we come from is not as important as finding out who you are and why you are here, NOW.

Peace to you friend.

[Celine]

Walk in...wonder about...and volunteer...

lol

[blue777]

Not for nothing but I think the one falling into the ego trap is you trying to be right about everything you've been saying regarding where we come from.

You'll find out where you come from when you come to pass. Perhaps you are feeling a little impatient?

As others have stated, that doesn't really matter. In the grand scheme of things, we are one and where we come from is not as important as finding out who you are and why you are here, NOW.

Peace to you friend.

If there are positive walk-ins there are also negative walk-ins therefore we do not need a private thread s. Everone has an E.T. SOUL
quote:

that doesn't really matter. In the grand scheme of things, we are one and where we come from is not as important as finding out who you are and why you are here, NOW.

OF COURSE IT MATTERS....If you do not know where you come from , how do you know what frequency you should be communicating at.?..secondly we are on the Earth to unite all E.T. SOULS INCLUDING THE VERY NEGATIVE ONES with compassion and altruism, therefore creating harmony in the Heavens//

[wynderer]

Greetings All -- it seems i may be about to go suddenly off-line for a while -- there are so many posts i want to respond to -- but this is pressing on me

on another forum on a thread about ET &/or [HD hi -dimension] walk-ins or starseeds , & on this one, i thought i noticed some humans feeling as if they were bring judged & told that they were inferior somehow

this ties in for me w/'we are all ETs' -- my gut response to this from the first time i heard it was , 'Not true' --ET means 'extra Terra estial' -- from off Earth --

these are just my thoughts -- tho it is true that all souls were created by the Creator -- we all sprang forth from the Light of Love originally -- there are many souls on Earth now who have incarnated almost exclusively in Earth bodies for many many lifetimes -- i think they were ensnared here early on by what is now the NWO matrix control system, including a reincarnational time loop

i think that the humans here on Earth who manage to awaken are amazing! ETs here have some degree of awareness/memory of home, & that helps to keep our minds somewhat freer of the matrix -- but for those of you who have spent nearly all your lifetimes on Earth & have broken free -- like those of you here on PA -- you are heroines & heroes in my book, & y'all must be some unique & unusual beings

if you are from Earth, then you probably know the feeling of homesickness for that one little spot of the planet that feels like home when far away -- the loneliness that is a common theme here on this thread -- for me, homesickness was/is a part of it -- an especially painful homesickness since i didn't know who & where i was missing -- just little glimpses now & then in dreams & visions -- & always looking up into the skies wherever i am --

it's like i am being nudged to tell all humans this, those who awakening -- basically the 'You are heroes & heroines!' message -- from your brothers & sisters in space, out there

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[Shane_Original]

Excellent post IMO wynderer.

Once the ET's realize who and what they are/are not, it becomes important to remember why we're here. Those who are "human" or more accurately, have only/only reincarnate here, are the reasons the ET's needed to come. Because THEY are so special.. Just as we are. All things in creation. Every race, breed, creed, group, organization.. All beautiful, all important,all powerful.

There is no "better than" or " (more)special"... There simply is.. US.

Love in us.
Shaynard

[Agape]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vbDSi5xRsg&feature=related


ET on youtube : Attention Earthlings and Aliens...

:second:

[Beth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vbDSi5xRsg&feature=related


ET on youtube : Attention Earthlings and Aliens...

:second:

LOLLLLLLLL! Too funny!

[Caren]

Hello Agape,
Thanks for the laugh, I see you have a sense of humor too! :)
all things good are wished for you,
caren

[Agape]

Hello Agape,
Thanks for the laugh, I see you have a sense of humor too! :)
all things good are wished for you,
caren

Else I could not survive dear Caren :sarcastic: Making 10 jokes of ones own self a day always helps. But don't tell anyone..

Love to you :grouphug:

[Sidney]

I have never felt like I was related to my biological family. I look like them, but I am NOTHING like them. Not a shred of likeness anywhere. I long to go home, my real home. My story is much too long to post right now, but it is so similar to others stories here, that it is a relief knowing there are others, who are awakened, and acknowledge it. I too met my soul mate at a late time. when i was 47, 2 yrs ago. He too is a walk in/ or indigo, whatever you wish to call us. Human,,,I am not. It is a very difficult life to live, when you can't tell anyone. My guardian(s) sent my soul mate to me, but I had to earn it. I have had unbelievable suffering in my near history. Why, you have to suffer so much to fine happiness, I will never know. But part of the reward, IS the awakening. It is all part of the process. can I make sense of it all? Not even close. I still don't even know my real purpose, but I feel that I am getting close. I can say, it all started when I discovered chemtrails and became a participant on a message board. that is when the "abuse" began, and I became a "target". Long story, but during that time, I discovered I had a "gift". I cannot elborate on that here, but long story short, there are "good guys" and bad "guys" in my life. there is a book in the makes, and if I ever finish it, i will share here. I have 3 children, 2 of who are not my own, but I love them just as if they are. so it is busy around here. Thank you for this thread, it is invaluable to each of us to know that we are not alone in this, because it is a lonely existence. we do all have things in common. the longing. I have absolutely no fear of death whatsoever. If I dies tomorrow, my only regret would be leaving my husband and daughter behind. Although, we have a planned "meeting" place, if something happens to one of us, we are eternal light beings, I have no doubt. Sometime when I have time I will elaborate my story as it is stranger than fiction.
thank you for being here all of you, and blessing for this thread. Peace

[Caren]

Hello Agape,
Thank you for the reply. Since were sort of sharing secrets- I'll share one with you..my older brother..
when he's having a few pints..he tells those same jokes as that et on you tube! I heard some of them
just yesterday at my sister's birthday party :)

ok now.. I know I'm off topic, I'll behave.
caren

[Caren]

Hello Starchild,
Just want to say "Welcome" to this wonderful thread. I'm sure you will feel comfortable here. and thank you
for sharing. :)
caren

[dim]

... and because with all this "love" and "light" and "angelic" terminology one might get the wrong idea
of what a starseed really is i will try to remind briefly that in a soul group evolution
through the paramount realms of duality starseeds inevitably had to pass through darkness also,
experiencing life as offenders, tyrants and oppressors
aggressively manipulating the waves of the new and innocent earth souls
back in the days this planet start being inhabited
and thus generating lots of Karma that we now feel so obligated to resolve.

In fact it was we that caused the "fall of man" and now,
as we evolved beyond all greed of power and control,
came back to make up for this in a try to restore our mess
and this the reason we feel so affectionate towards
earth and humans ready to sacrifice anything to their behalf.

That's all of course just a fast skimming through eons of evolution and if one has to go deeper
would see that it couldn't be otherwise as all this had to take place in this great play of experience
and ultimately there's none to blame.

... bits and pieces coming from the top of my head as i remember more and more everyday.

[Nagual]

I deeply resonate with many words posted here…

Since early childhood I had the feeling of not belonging to my biological family…
Grew up alone, with no friends, never been part of any group, social organization or religion…
In summertime, at night I used to lie down on the sand (beach) looking at the stars until dawn…
By the age of 15 y/o I could have written a 1000 page book about ‘loneliness’…
At 19, I took off on a 6 month journey ‘to find my place on Earth’, that journey lasted almost 20 years, visited almost every country on this planet (lived in 14 of them) but never found one I could call it ‘home’…

Then, one day –out of the blue- I started to have ‘memory-flashes’ of myself living on another planet, having another family, etc.
I was so intrigued by this memories that I decided to go for hypnotic regression therapy and try to find some answers…, it worked!

It is a relief to know that all those years of loneliness were not due to some human-emotional-mental disorder but simply due to a different consciousness vibratory rate or soul collective signature.

Now I remember where came from, but most important I remember why I am here, at this amazing times…

Love.

[Hope Light]

I deeply resonate with many words posted here…

Since early childhood I had the feeling of not belonging to my biological family…
Grew up alone, with no friends, never been part of any group, social organization or religion…
In summertime, at night I used to lie down on the sand (beach) looking at the stars until dawn…
By the age of 15 y/o I could have written a 1000 page book about ‘loneliness’…
At 19, I took off on a 6 month journey ‘to find my place on Earth’, that journey lasted almost 20 years, visited almost every country on this planet (lived in 14 of them) but never found one I could call it ‘home’…

Then, one day –out of the blue- I started to have ‘memory-flashes’ of myself living on another planet, having another family, etc.
I was so intrigued by this memories that I decided to go for hypnotic regression therapy and try to find some answers…, it worked!

It is a relief to know that all those years of loneliness were not due to some human-emotional-mental disorder but simply due to a different consciousness vibratory rate or soul collective signature.

Now I remember where came from, but most important I remember why I am here, at this amazing times…

Love.

Dear Nagual, what an amazing post! What an amazing life! And I call my life interesting :drama:. I would really like to hear the conclusions about why you think you are here.

Reagards,

Lilly

[Nagual]

Dear Nagual, what an amazing post! What an amazing life! And I call my life interesting :drama:. I would really like to hear the conclusions about why you think you are here.

Reagards,

Lilly

Croatia was part of my journey!

spent 2 years in Zagreb...

[Hope Light]

Croatia was part of my journey!

spent 2 years in Zagreb...

Isnt it great!!!! Great city....

However, I am still very much interested to know the why part of you being here on this planet and having this experience of loneliness?

[scootiep]

Hi all,

This thread is brilliant i have silently been reading through and it has been quite fascinating to read about everybodies different experiences, I myself think I am a walk in, two years ago I had an amazing awakening, i changed from an egoistic, selfish aggressive didnt give a crap, wanted money and materialistic things to a spiritual loving being who has a thirst for service to others whether it is people, animals, insects, plant life!! I became more in touch with the Earth, wanted to know who I am and why we are here? I look up more, people who are asleep never look up to the skies do they? I also feel I have a mission of some kind I was born in 1978 so that would make me 2nd wave, I have had an aura reading and i have indigo as one my spiritual colours.
I am very strong physichally and emotionally I have been told I am a spiritual warrior, i feel like I am on a mission to help the earth and all inhabitants on mother gaia.

Since my awakening I have given up; Meat, Tv, Pursuing money anything materialistic, alcohol, unhealthy food, fluoride, negativity, computer games, INSANITY!! lol

Since my awakening I have taken up; Drinking alot more water, regular exercise, meditation, more time in nature, regular sky watches looking for et craft, astology, astronomy, growing my own food, more in touch with wildlife and animals, become alot more loving and understanding, more helpful, music has become more of a passion, raising my vibrations and others.

I have shown this thread to my gf who is definately a starseed she thinks she is a pleaidian!! She has felt alone for most of her life and after she read through this thread she cried because she knows she isn't alone anymore :) maybe she would share her story oneday but she isn't a member yet.

Scott

[illuminate]

WELCOME Starchild, Nagual and Scootiep! Thank you all for sharing...
It is very nice to have you shining with us!
Say goodbye to loneliness and hello to Avalon :peace:

Scott, tell your girlfriend to get her butt in here and that she is definitely NOT alone anymore!!

With Love!
:love:

[sjkted]

Hi All,

I'm 2nd gen and after reading all of the responses I feel compelled to share my story as well as I think this is one of the most important topics right now.

As soon as I was old enough to speak, I was telling my dad stories about a big war we were fighting on another planet. Both my parents were ex-hippies, so they were open to hearing about this type of stuff.

For as long as I can remember, I've always been different. When I was younger, I tested exceptionally high on IQ/aptitude tests and was given a lot of high-aptitude schooling and study. I found high school to be a very painful experience, so I just stopped attending. To this day, my report card shows I flunked out of high school but I had a college degree by age 17.

I've always been a wanderer -- mentally, physically, and spiritually. I'm completely incapable of taking orders from authority figures because they're in charge. I can however follow instructions from someone I recognize as more advanced than I am in a certain area. I've always been a leader in the sense that I decide what I am going to do and am very driven and decisive. Often other people follow me because I seem to know what I'm doing or because I look confident and fearless.

When I was growing up, mom kept trying and trying to push me into the normal box, which resulted in many bogus and conflicting diagnoses such as ADD, ADHD, hyperactivity, Asberger's syndrome, etc. It was a major trip to get on and off all of the associated medications, but needless to say I am just fine with all of these as an adult.

I've also always been very independent from others and guided by spirit. As an adult, I have come to know my spirit guides and understand who I am and what I am doing here. I am not happy here with this paradigm. I don't want to die right now and am not suicidal, but I do not fear death and I know I will be conscious of where I am and what I am doing and when I am ready to move onto my next assignment.

It's been very painful because of the level of dissonance I have with others. In addition to being ridiculed by others for things such as lifelong vegetarianism, I just don't get where other people are coming from and why they do the things they do. This has been a big problem for me both philosophically and socially. I've learned to be extremely private with my thoughts and actions.

About five years ago, I did the Buckminster Fuller test to find your purpose in life and I found that my purpose is to act as kind of an interpreter to bridge different gaps between people. It's a pretty natural role for me as I don't identify with any group, but I'm able to walk comfortably between many groups and people and help them communicate. In my current "job", I help people in business work with technology.

A few years ago, I started communicating with my spirit guides off and on and received a tremendous amount of information about my past lives and origin and what I am doing in this lifetime. I do want to go home, but I still feel I have my job to do here and I would like to see Earth transition into the new paradigm.

My understanding about our role here is somewhat esoteric: we are here to lead in a sense, but not in a practical way such as the President of an organization or an elected official would lead. Our part is twofold: one by contributing our energy and second by contributing to the group mind.

An example of contributing energy is if you can imagine an extremely relaxed, fun-loving person interacting with someone who is more stoic and uptight and rigid. As they spend more and more time together, the morphic energy fields will merge and the relaxed, fun-loving person will become more serious while the uptight person will start to relax and unwind their energy. This example is happening on a much larger scale and by contributing our energy, we are helping move the world out of a control box that will never be put back together again.

The other part is that we all have a group mind and by the maya we call 3D, we have simply forgotten. All thoughts we have and all emotions are shared on a higher level. We all have access to this level and we are all affected when a person or animal is in pain. Our thoughts are beyond revolutionary -- they hit the very core of the matrix. As we continue our lives, thinking and doing the things we do, we create mental pathways for others to follow. As more and more people follow these pathways, we will eventually hit critical mass for a paradigm shift.

Lately, I've been doing some exploration of my experiences in between lives. Prior to this life, I saw myself in a pyramid. I was in a room with many different jewels and fanciful items. The items I was drawn to and held onto became my gifts in this lifetime. I saw myself focusing on all of these different items and contemplating what it would mean to have them and what they would do for me. I then saw myself talking to my dad. My energy was very strong and I was excited. I was telling him that this was it -- we were going to finish it in this lifetime and things would never be the same. I knew that we were going to knock down the paradigm and the pain, suffering and subversion would become something of the distant past.

--sjkted

[Tuza]

Else I could not survive dear Caren :sarcastic: Making 10 jokes of ones own self a day always helps. But don't tell anyone..

Love to you :grouphug:

I always loved that avatar of yours Agape, that, your forum name and how you wrote kicked my senses into the "we have a real ET in our midst" he,he.

Keep smiling honey, we love you.

Much love to you. ;)

[tpmputterman]

100% second wave. Have always known since I was very little that things just weren't the way they were advertised.

Really did not fully understand all of this until about 4 years ago. Its a wonderfule thing to awake, but also comes with frustration of just allowing

my path to take its course and not steer it. Have this huge urge to go home and very ready to do so. Always felt like I was here for a huge mission

and was going to do something great. Get many many signs now that I am protected in every way from health, danger, ect.. Can't tell you how

many times I have about died in a car wreck and then all of the sudden the accident is behind me. Latley I feel so so tired physically and mentaly.

My friend who's wife channels like (Seth Speaks) tells me that I have been worked on very hard as of late. Funny story how we met: short story is

I took a job that I never ever would take, and the first three months I meet this man and we have a weird connection. As our relationship grows

he basically guides me in many different ways. He lived with the Hopi's and was great to finally meet someone that I could say anything and it was ok.

Meaning I was not crazt ect... Really am not sure what is upon us, but I know that I love Earth and its people but get so tired of the system we are in.

Best of luck to everyone and our common goals. Could write for days about experiences ect...

[cloud9]

This is for Buchannan561,
I was very touched when I read your story and found it fascinating, I'd like to know more.

I've read some stories like yours in Dolores Cannon books but I'm always thirsty for more, she says that many of this souls have come without ever had lives as humans, the come with a clean slate and no karma but also, generally they don't have any children and you had six? That's amazing to me.

I do have a question and it's about all those reading you got: what kind of people can read if you have karma or not? What kind of reading is that? I mean, how is it called? What method do they use?

I know most of people here are not impressed by stories like yours but I am, every time somebody comes out with that absolute knowing about a bigger reality, I just wish they could tell me everything, detail by detail.

I'm sorry I don't want to bother you, it's just this is fascinating to me.

[Arpheus]

There seem to be lots of us,i like how this thread is growing almost daily,our little big family is getting bigger,we may be related and not even know hehe,now we just need agape to post something funny again i need her to put a smile on my face again,i been lonely here brighten me up lol :horn:

[Agape]

I always loved that avatar of yours Agape, that, your forum name and how you wrote kicked my senses into the "we have a real ET in our midst" he,he.

Keep smiling honey, we love you.

Much love to you. ;)

And, why do you think we don't . Thank you dear Tuza, you have pure heart.

I'll tell you a story if you allow... It comes from times of great Indian philosopher Vasubandu who was already reknown scholar and composed treateses on grammar and Prasangika Madhyamika ( dependant arising ) used to this day when in his middle age he left to meditate to a cave , under his guru instructions to achieve realization of the teachings .

It was a habbit in India and it is still, if you want to gain original wisdom and learning you have to go to retreat and meditate on Deity till you find the truth on your own, simple scholastic learning however great won't do.

So Vasubandhu left to the cave and meditated on Manjushri, bodhisattva of wisdom , to bless him with direct insight to Reality
and he meditated for 10 years and nothing happened really,
not a single vision, not a dream , no sign of success.

He persisted and worked hard on himself but as his mind was so rational, so full of logic , it was difficult for him to see anything else .

After those years one day he left the cave for a walk and came to mountain slope where old man was sitting and polishing the rock with goose feather.

Vasubandhu asked him politely : "Grandpa, what is it that you are doing ?" The old man answered : " I am brushing the rock to release my way to the other side of the big mountain "
Vasubandhu got a bit upset and said " How can you think to get to the other side by polishing rock with a feather ? It will take you thousands years .."
The old man just smiled and contniued and as Vasubandhu was getting more and more angry he turned his head around and the old man was not there, puff ...he was gone.
So Vasubandhu full of thoughts went back to the cave as he realized it was probably Manjushri himself telling him how weak his meditation was and that he will never "brush the hard rock of his ego" that way and applied more effort and more analysis and after another 7 years achieved his aim ,
Manjushri appeared to him in his own body , stayed with him for 21 days and offered him teachings ..

Vasubandhu was so happy , so excited , that one day he came to the village market and told people that tomorrow he will show them Manjushri in person .
People laughed as thought what is the old fool Vasubandhu going to show us , he's probably gone mad in his cave nevertheless they were curious and next day truely Vasubandhu took the subtle Bodhisattva on his shoulders and carried him to the village .
They went around the market but no one seemed to have noticed anything , in fact Vasubandhu has asked few people : "Can you see something unusual? "
No one could see anything except one old woman who was selling fish and when she saw him she's almost got heart attack , then exclaimed "Take the dead dog off your shoulders, why are you carrying a corpse around ? You've scared me to death!"

All others just laughed and thought Vasubandhu befooled them but they let him go .
He realized that none had pure heart enough to see the subtle being except the old woman who still saw a "dead dog " lol

Another version of the same story sais that the lady was no one less than Tara Devi herself who instructed him to " take the dog of his dead ego off his shoulders" :becky: instead trying to show it to everyone .


Numberless are Beings in Universe and ways to achieve wisdom and unprecedent are ways and purposes of Bodhisattvas ..

I'm still on my way ..

So please, have a coffee and toffee for me :wub:

[scootiep]

WELCOME Starchild, Nagual and Scootiep! Thank you all for sharing...
It is very nice to have you shining with us!
Say goodbye to loneliness and hello to Avalon :peace:

Scott, tell your girlfriend to get her butt in here and that she is definitely NOT alone anymore!!

With Love!
:love:

Hi Illuminate :) I will and have told her before but she is a bit too shy and doesnt feel it is the right time for joining at the moment, but I will ask her again hopefully she will change her mind :)

Thank you for the friend and group invite.

Scott

[FrankoL]

I am not sure about this staff. To me all of shared stories are very normal - human I would say. Everybody feels special in a way. But we are not. Just like everybody else, playing the game of life. Who is not tired? Who hasn't had particular/strange moments in life. I guess everybody does. I don't believe in a total positive/negative person either. All of us is a mix and this is just right. Isn't this pathetic that everybody in this forum is an ET Walk-in / Wanderers / Volunteer? Come on... You read too much on the topic and "normal people" don't. This is the difference.
I dont want to be negative or provocative, but I wanted to point out different point of view.

[illuminate]

I am not sure about this staff. To me all of shared stories are very normal - human I would say. Everybody feels special in a way. But we are not. Just like everybody else, playing the game of life. Who is not tired? Who hasn't had particular/strange moments in life. I guess everybody does. I don't believe in a total positive/negative person either. All of us is a mix and this is just right. Isn't this pathetic that everybody in this forum is an ET Walk-in / Wanderers / Volunteer? Come on... You read too much on the topic and "normal people" don't. This is the difference.
I dont want to be negative or provocative, but I wanted to point out different point of view.

Greetings Frank...

I am sorry you find us pathetic?
Well, I don't think any of us are pathetic for being who we are... not at all! And I think it's
beyond FANTASTIC that so many of us are gathered in the same place.

In my opinion, I know without a doubt that this is who I am... I am not trying to say in ANY way
that I am special... quite the contrary... just looking to unite with others for support and
understanding. To me, it would be like you telling me I am not a woman, when I know I am.
You are entitled to your own opinion and beliefs, as we all are... this is the beauty of free will.

You say no-one is special, well I beg to differ, each and every living thing is special...
including YOU!!!

With Love!
:love:

[FrankoL]

Greetings Frank...

I am sorry you find us pathetic?
Well, I don't think any of us are pathetic for being who we are... not at all! And I think it's
beyond FANTASTIC that so many of us are gathered in the same place.

In my opinion, I know without a doubt that this is who I am... I am not trying to say in ANY way
that I am special... quite the contrary... just looking to unite with others for support and
understanding. To me, it would be like you telling me I am not a woman, when I know I am.
You are entitled to your own opinion and beliefs, as we all are... this is the beauty of free will.

You say no-one is special, well I beg to differ, each and every living thing is special...
including YOU!!!

With Love!
:love:

I am really sorry that you find my post offending. I agree, that each of us is special. Life is a gift. You should be enjoying it, without figuring out in which group you fit in (or even who are you). Do we have so much time? I guess no. If you feel alienating and strange about this reality is just you. You created it. You should change your decisions either in positive or negative way. Be responsible by doing it. Idea about "super special group" or a segmentation general is pathetic. But you are sure not. Take care.

[illuminate]

I am really sorry that you find my post offending. I agree, that each of us is special. Life is a gift. You should be enjoying it, without figuring out in which group you fit in (or even who are you). Do we have so much time? I guess no. If you feel alienating and strange about this reality is just you. You created it. You should change your decisions either in positive or negative way. Be responsible by doing it. Idea about "super special group" or a segmentation general is pathetic. But you are sure not. Take care.

Hey Frank, just so you know... I do understand where you are coming from... and I'm also not offended.
I celebrate the saying 'to each his own' :p

I'm also not one to defend my beliefs or would ever try to convince another to join me in them.
I personally don't believe in right or wrong... I see everything as perfect.
I love us all, every single one of US... the good, the bad, the beautiful and everything in between!
Thanks for sharing your opinion and know you are not alone :p

Many blessings to you and yours!!

With Love!
:love:

[Caren]

Hi Illuminate,
We love you too! You are BEAUTIFUL our Avalon sister..
Blessings, caren

[Anchor]

I don't want to be negative or provocative, but I wanted to point out different point of view.

No problem at all.

It doesn't matter if you don't identify with the labels. Have a look through this thread and see if you can distill out the core properties/qualities of the phenomena that many people posting here are identifying with.

Then test yourself against them. Be as cynical as you like - I think you may be in for a surprise!

John..

[LeeEllisMusic]

There seems to be a lot of chatter on this thread about those of us who are awakening and/ or questioning our soul's history.

My take is that we are all from SOURCE, and as Creation is constantly unfolding, and energy unendingly morphs into new and varied forms, that, ultimately, we are Eternal, Unlimited Beings~ whether we have had origins in the Angelic realm, or lived lifetimes in other dimensions and extraterrestrial realities~ The bottom line is that we are HERE NOW, and Here/ Now is going through some DRAMATIC changes

I found this site to be very helpful. It's concerned with 2012 and Ascension, and, not to get into all the hoo-hah around all THAT!- LOL- what IS helpful, is this list of Symptoms of what most of humanity seems to be experiencing at the moment, and some very practical Remedies, to help keep us In Tune and Centered in the Storm~ so WHATEVER is unfolding ( Ascension, Transformation etc...), we can be as healthy and clear and helpful as we can be. And that goes for us ALL, wherever we came from, we are here now, and there is a lot of work to be done:

http://timeofthesixthsun.com/index.php/6th-sun-guide/2012-toolkit

PS~ I have also posted this information on the private group thread as well.
Peace and Blessings to ALL!

[LeeEllisMusic]

Here's the gist of the information:

2012 TOOLKIT - SYMPTOMS


We have now entered a highly volatile period, full of both potential and hazards.
The Earth’s magnetic field is changing it’s configuration.

There is a breach in the magnetosphere which surrounds the Earth, protecting it from solar winds.
This is a naturally occurring cycle but the magnitude of this opening is huge, and is allowing and will continue to allow large volumes of plasma from the sun to enter our atmosphere. This will increase magnetic storms, disruptions of telecommunications and the bio-electric circuitry such as the human nervous systems.

The increased charging of the magnetosphere will increase over the next few years.

Our subtle energy bodies or etheric body, known by the ancient Egyptians as the KA body,
is highly sensitive to and affected by solar plasma. This increase in solar plasma
also increases the vibatory rate of the KA body which is wonderful if one is consciously on the path of ascension, but for others it can lead to disturbances and dissolution.

This list of symptoms and remedies are to help those of us challenged by the symptoms of the ascension transition.

(Ascension in this sense means the upwards movement in our conscioiusness. As we ascend, both our perspective and perception is radically altered as we begin to see through the maya or illusion of this world, which is created through the dance of subatomic particles into a configuration of matter. Through the ascension process we realize that we are the creator of our experience, which we call "the world." In this way, we have transcended the world,
while still being a part of it, for you see through the lens of perception that life is a movie that you are projecting.)


Symptoms of ascension may include:


Apathy
Duvet days take on a whole new meaning. The body system is probably rebooting and needs to rest and recoup.
Trust that the body knows best .

Ungrounded
As we step out of the old ‘denser’ us, a feeling of being unconnectedness and of observing ourselves from the outside can ensue.
This can be accompanied by an overwhelming feeling of wanting to go home, to return to the source.

Dizziness
Dizziness, loss of balance, back and neck pain, ringing in the ears, "gritty" eyes and blurred vision are all common.

Headaches
Cranial pressure can lead to a feeling of being squeezed, compressed and boxed in.
A result of trying to squeeze 5D into 3D.

Sensitivity
Heightened sensitivity to one’s environment like crowds, noise and smells overstimulates the senses.

Crying
Crying about everything and anything. Often nothing to do with us personally but is a clearing of the lower realms.
Emotional rollercoaster of ups and downs is a release as we make space for the new energy.

Fatigue
As the body loses it’s density, it goes through periods of restructuring resulting in intense fatigue at times.

Loss of Apetite
As one’s body adjusts to a new higher state of being, one may lose the desire for food.
Clean air and pure water are more desirable.

Weight Gain
Difficult to lose weight gain, Low Blood Sugar attacks and a craving for protein are all symptoms of this time.
A huge amount of fuel is required for this stage of ascension.

Insanity
During spiritual emergences, this can often become an emergency as one opens to several dimensions simultaneously.
The usual filters that keep us in the third density can open, leaving us vulnerable.

Depression
Living in a higher state may leave one feeling out of alignment with one’s outer world
which can feel both frightening and depressing.

Aches & Pains
Due to the body purifying and releasing blocked three dimensional energy as you enter higher vibrational fields.

Insomnia
Inability to sleep especially between the hours of 2am – 4am are signs of the body realigning itself.

Loss of Memory
At a loss for words? Short term memory loss is not uncommon either as one travels between the dimensions.
No longer time to dwell in the past, being present is the way of the ‘now age’.

Seeing Things
That which resides beyond the veil of illusion is making itself visible to us now as we raise our vibration.
As one dares to step into the void, see what becomes visible.

Difficult Relationships
As we start to disconnect from the denser energy fields, one can develop an intolerance to l
those that dwell in the lower vibrational fields.

Stress / Anxiety
Heart palpitations, difficulty breathing, panic attacks and feelings of hysteria can be the result of the ego letting go of itself
and the loss of old behaviour patterns. Can feel like a part of you is dying…and you’d be right…it is.

Dreams
Erratic and often violent dreams persist as many lifetimes are released.
Prolific dreaming is not uncommon in this time as one cleanses and releases on an unconscious level.

Night Sweats
Hot flushes can occur as one’s body burns off denser energies.

Deep Sleep
Periods of falling asleep at strange times in the day should not be alarming.
The body is acclimatising itself as it integrates the transition.

Expansiveness
As one’s frequency increases, a feeling of space and expansion prevails.
This is one of the more pleasant symptoms of a raised vibrational field.

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REMEDIES

Now here are some practical tips from the world’s wisdom keepers of how we can raise
our personal vibration in order to help with’ transition symptoms’ :


MEDITATION
TM focused meditation has had amazing results in affecting the reality of the world around us.
15-30 minutes meditation practise a day can help one to slow down and centre oneself. It is also very energising for the body.
This will help to raise the frequency of one’s mind, body & spirit.

VIPASSANA
This is an extended period spent in silent meditation when one can undergo the process of seeing what lies beyond the silence.

WORDS & THOUGHTS
Non violent communication (NVC) is an opportunity to communicate with our fellow man with greater compassion and clarity.
We create what we think and as we commit our thoughts and words into the ether, we give them life. Be careful what you ask for…
A positive attitude in both word and deed will most definitely raise one’s vibrational field.

THE BREATH
To find a practise where one focuses on the simplicity of the rise and fall of the breath can also be extremely beneficial.
Inhale into the belly and then exhale. This is known as ‘babies breath’.

SINGING
A wonderful way to uplift the spirit and one of the fastest ways to bring joy into the body.
A fast track way to raise the Wei Chi meridian which directly affects the health of the heart.
Chanting mantras enable one to connect to the divine and create transformation in one’s life.
For example, chanting “I am a joyful manifestation of divine consciousness” can directly affect our vibrational field.

SACRED SOUND
We are all vibration.
Listening to or chanting solfeggio frequencies for example can have profound effects in one’s life.
These frequencies were found in the Book of Numbers in the Bible and were sung by the Gregorian Monks to call in the divine.
One of these frequencies is 528Hz, also used by today’s biophysicists for DNA cell repair. It is also known as the frequency of LOVE.

DANCING
Dance is medicine for the soul and an expression of our true self. An opportunity to unwind and release the stresses held in the body.
Get in touch with one’s inner passion and connect deeply with the divine consciousness that guides us.

WATER
If you can access water from a pure fresh spring, well or bore hole…and always be watchful of who you meet at the well.
That would be the best source of water but there are many fine filters around which will help to clean
and revitalise the water too. Storing your water in and drinking from blue glass, restructures the water.
Sing into the water. Place it into a crystal bowl each morning and sound the bowl. Bless it. Put notes of intention beneath it.
Speak your prayers to it. Do your puja with it.
And then drink it…..and feel it nourish and nurture you. That is the greatest blessing.

DIET
An alkaline, live and organic diet would be your best bet. In fact to eat bio-dynamically would be the optimum.
This is where the crops have been blessed in a process that connects heaven and earth, and where seeds have been reaped
and sown by the moon and the stars. You can also be assured in this way too that your food has not been interfered with or refined in
any way. Do not microwave your food. Eat as little refined foods as possible. Avoid as much processed/dead foods possible and above all.
Bless your food.

UTENSILS
Whether this is to till the earth or to place in your mouth, it is always best to use wood or ceramic utensils.
Cutting through the ground with a big steel blade has a very different effect on the soil than using a copper blade.
The ultimate is to eat with silver cutlery. Being born with a silver spoon in your mouth means a lot more than just being
born rich. It means that you used to have less risk of infection or a virus as silver is a natural anti-biotic.

HOUSING
By building sustainably with eco materials, you minimise the risk of poisoning your body with unwanted toxins.
Minimise the use of plastic and metals and asbestos in your home. Avoid glues and all chemical products if possible.
Use organic paints. Try to avoid sleeping in a ‘sprung’ mattress and choose instead either a futon or memory foam.
Solar panels, Underfloor heating panels, good insulation and wind/water power are all a plus.
If your home is based on sacred geometry, this is the optimum for raising your frequency.

CLOTHING
Natural fibres are the best like Hemp, Silk and Cotton.
Sew prayers or blessings into your clothing labels.

JEWELLERY
Avoid wearing metal jewellery if possible as this can interfere with your flow of energy around the body.
Crystals are the optimum jewellery to wear as these enhance your electromagnetic field and raise your vibration .

MOBILE PHONES
Mobile phones, Bluetooth, WiFi and computers should really be kept to a minimum, especially in the areas where you sleep.
These items can cause cancer and alter our DNA. Try to wear a personal EMPower plate or a similar device to protect yourself
and your home from these potentially harmful radiation. Don’t choose to live anywhere near a phone mast or aerial if you can
possibly help it. Don’t use your mobile for more than a minute of so and keep away from your head and body.

CLEANSING & PURIFYING
Shower or bathe daily. Himalayan salts are great to draw out the toxins from the body and to replace salt lost whilst
sweating. Taking a shower will release the stress from the body, literally washing it away. Adding essential oils
in the water can boost the immune system, increase the body’s vitality. Avoid applying chemicals directly to the scalp
for obvious reasons. Conserve water when you can and when brushing your teeth, avoid toothpaste with fluoride in it
as this is a major (not a minor), a major tranquiliser.

HEALING
If you are suffering with a degenerative dis-ease, only confide in those around you who have total belief
that you have the power to heal yourself. Do not surround yourself with those that are in fear
or those who are cynical as it will be less likely to help your recovery.
Be discerning in whom you seek help from.
Listen to your intuition and know
that only YOU can heal YOU.

MASSAGE / THERAPY
It is good to get regular healthy touch.
If you can’t afford it. Exchange it.

COMMUNITY
Surround yourself with like-minded souls. Find a community which supports co-creative ideas about living.
There are more and more transition towns or towns in transition which means that they care about keeping the towns’
carbon footprint to a minimum. Car share where possible and ride a bike – it’s good exercise too.
Share seeds. Share ideas. Share your dreams.

FRIENDS
Again, only surround yourself with positive and supportive individuals. Choose good role models. Aspire to be like them.
Find a great mentor and have a councellor so that you don’t bore your friends. Do good deeds. Be kind. Help others.
Treat others as you would want them to treat you.

NATURE
Raise your vibration by being in nature regularly. Get your hands into the earth. Grow your own food or herbs
if you lack the space. Breathe in good fresh air in wooded areas where there are good amounts of oxygen levels.
Take time to reconnect with Mother Nature. Love her. Love God. Love ourselves.
Remember: She is our Mother and she is our teacher.
Feel her vibration…and then feel it within you….rising higher and higher and higher

ATTITUDE
Live in truth and honesty - about all things.
Be positive. Always think the best of people. Drop the judgements.
Above all – Love All.

[John Parslow]

Hello illuminate thank you for the thread

Do you think this also applies to people in my age group (just retired at 65)? I ask the question because you seem to have precluded my age group but I have always felt there was something 'wrong' since my arrival and spent many years searching for the 'right' path. Like many colleagues, I deplore war and all it stands for and have wondered all my life if the human race will ever reach the finish line. So many times in the past I have wanted to stop this world and get off - perhaps I will ... ... love and peace. JP :cool:

[greybeard]

Lee thanks for the link and pasting it in, most apply to me.
Keep up the good work, you are doing great things.
Chris

[illuminate]

Do you think this also applies to people in my age group (just retired at 65)?

Hello John with the beautiful smile and welcome!

To answer your question... of course! Age is only a number anyway and there
are, and will always be, exceptions to every rule :p

I personally think there are MANY of us (as Celine says...) walking in, wandering about and
volunteering... I would even say that at least 80% of Avalon members are indeed here to
assist and many hundreds of thousands world wide.

In times to come, all of mankind, human, alien and anything in between will unite!
And it'll be LOVE that saves the day :love:

Also.. just reading through Lee's post above (Thanks Lee) and I wanted to comment on the
effects of singing and dancing... oh my goodness, I can not tell you how much JOY I get when
I am singing and dancing... I do this everyday, several times a day, and it really is the best
medicine for my soul... it feels SO GOOD... for me it is only equivalent to an orgasm...
this is how happy it makes me feel.

Oh and laughing! my heart SWELLS like the Grinch when I laugh...
and those deep, bent over, crazy-faced making, almost hurts, type of contagious laughs are
the BEST!!! Try to laugh as much as possible!!!

I'd like to think that the very first sound was a laugh!

Great day to all...

With Love!
:love:

[Ba-ba-Ra]

[QUOTE=LeeEllisMusic;38743]Here's the gist of the information:

2012 TOOLKIT - SYMPTOMS


We have now entered a highly volatile period, full of both potential and hazards.
The Earth’s magnetic field is changing it’s configuration.

There is a breach in the magnetosphere which surrounds the Earth, protecting it from solar winds.
This is a naturally occurring cycle but the magnitude of this opening is huge, and is allowing and will continue to allow large volumes of plasma from the sun to enter our atmosphere. This will increase magnetic storms, disruptions of telecommunications and the bio-electric circuitry such as the human nervous systems......

Hi Lee, Great post! You put it together in a simple cohesive way........

. . . seems we have done the same research on earth changes, I wonder what you - or any of you - think about the NASA discovery in late 2009 with their interstellar boundary explorer(IBEX)? I'm referring to the giant ribbon they found at the edge of the solar system. At first they were mystified, and admitted they didn't know what it could be and this might change how they view science. Now they are saying it's only a reflection, and I'm questioning that. I wonder myself if it couldn't be the new form of energy coming in. I'd love to think it's part of this unity consciousness the Mayan Calender per Carl Calleman is referring to and this energy will help prod us in that direction. Keep searching and sharing, love to all, Ba-ba-Ra

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Hello illuminate thank you for the thread

Do you think this also applies to people in my age group (just retired at 65)? I ask the question because you seem to have precluded my age group but I have always felt there was something 'wrong' since my arrival and spent many years searching for the 'right' path. Like many colleagues, I deplore war and all it stands for and have wondered all my life if the human race will ever reach the finish line. So many times in the past I have wanted to stop this world and get off - perhaps I will ... ... love and peace. JP :cool:


John, we are in the same age group and I can definitely say "Yes" it applies to us. HOWEVER, I would like to make a suggestion. The following was given to me to ponder on about the human race by whatever name you like to call your guides (ET's, angels, higher self, etc), so I will pass it on and perhaps it will be helpful to you or anyone.

"We paint our faces different ways, you and me. We hide our bodies under different skins, but in the end we are all alike. Underneath we all feel alone. There is no difference in our aloneness. It is the only thing that all people, everywhere possess equally, although some are more aware of it than others. It is that which we are here to overcome. We must touch, reach out and lose our aloneness in the oneness."

I hope with this you can feel me reaching out. Enjoy retirement, it is a great gift, Ba-ba-Ra

[heyokah]

Thanks Lee for the TOOLKIT and the REMEDIES.......
and I'll tell you why....



Symptoms of ascension may include:


Apathy
Duvet days take on a whole new meaning. The body system is probably rebooting and needs to rest and recoup.
Trust that the body knows best .

Ungrounded
As we step out of the old ‘denser’ us, a feeling of being unconnectedness and of observing ourselves from the outside can ensue.
This can be accompanied by an overwhelming feeling of wanting to go home, to return to the source.

Dizziness
Dizziness, loss of balance, back and neck pain, ringing in the ears, "gritty" eyes and blurred vision are all common.

Headaches
Cranial pressure can lead to a feeling of being squeezed, compressed and boxed in.
A result of trying to squeeze 5D into 3D.

Sensitivity
Heightened sensitivity to one’s environment like crowds, noise and smells overstimulates the senses.

Crying
Crying about everything and anything. Often nothing to do with us personally but is a clearing of the lower realms.
Emotional rollercoaster of ups and downs is a release as we make space for the new energy.

Fatigue
As the body loses it’s density, it goes through periods of restructuring resulting in intense fatigue at times.

Loss of Apetite
As one’s body adjusts to a new higher state of being, one may lose the desire for food.
Clean air and pure water are more desirable.

Weight Gain
Difficult to lose weight gain, Low Blood Sugar attacks and a craving for protein are all symptoms of this time.
A huge amount of fuel is required for this stage of ascension.

Insanity
During spiritual emergences, this can often become an emergency as one opens to several dimensions simultaneously.
The usual filters that keep us in the third density can open, leaving us vulnerable.

Depression
Living in a higher state may leave one feeling out of alignment with one’s outer world
which can feel both frightening and depressing.

Aches & Pains
Due to the body purifying and releasing blocked three dimensional energy as you enter higher vibrational fields.

Insomnia
Inability to sleep especially between the hours of 2am – 4am are signs of the body realigning itself.

Loss of Memory
At a loss for words? Short term memory loss is not uncommon either as one travels between the dimensions.
No longer time to dwell in the past, being present is the way of the ‘now age’.

Seeing Things
That which resides beyond the veil of illusion is making itself visible to us now as we raise our vibration.
As one dares to step into the void, see what becomes visible.

Difficult Relationships
As we start to disconnect from the denser energy fields, one can develop an intolerance to l
those that dwell in the lower vibrational fields.

Stress / Anxiety
Heart palpitations, difficulty breathing, panic attacks and feelings of hysteria can be the result of the ego letting go of itself
and the loss of old behaviour patterns. Can feel like a part of you is dying…and you’d be right…it is.

Dreams
Erratic and often violent dreams persist as many lifetimes are released.
Prolific dreaming is not uncommon in this time as one cleanses and releases on an unconscious level.

Night Sweats
Hot flushes can occur as one’s body burns off denser energies.

Deep Sleep
Periods of falling asleep at strange times in the day should not be alarming.
The body is acclimatising itself as it integrates the transition.

Expansiveness
As one’s frequency increases, a feeling of space and expansion prevails.
This is one of the more pleasant symptoms of a raised vibrational field..



I always thought I felt this way because of a brain damage I suffer from after having had an Encephalitis (an inflammation of the brain).
Those symptoms are exactly the same !!!!

And.... those REMEDIES are exactly what I have been doing to stay sane/alive :)

Most interesting.

[FrankoL]

I found similar symptoms connected to Chronic fatigue syndrome. Please see embedded links: CDC TOOLKIT http://www.cdc.gov/cfs/toolkit/index.html or http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/chronicfatigue1.shtml. Google it and you will find more.


@John:Then test yourself against them. Be as cynical as you like - I think you may be in for a surprise!
I am not cynical at all. I would love to be something different, with special abilities, believing in better and more positive world ... but ... sorry this is not my case. I am feeling just fine with current reality. Even I have to learn (day by day) how to fit best into it. Escaping and pretending to be special wont help me much.

[Anchor]

Escaping and pretending to be special wont help me much.

You dont have to pretend. You were special enough to come to this thread and render the opinion, challenging assumptions, etc. This is all good work in my view. Why should we all be the same and bring the same views to the table!

[TraineeHuman]

It’s certainly true that thinking of yourself as “special” is ego. But equally, it’s extremely important for every person to understand in great detail just who they individually are. How else can we ever possibly respond in good ways to whatever challenges life brings us individually? How can we ever do anything in a truly responsible way if we have only a vague idea of who it is that is taking action? What is consciousness in action if not precisely this?

Some years ago I managed to learn to occasionally communicate accurately with certain benevolent sixth-dimensional beings. They told me in passing that I would very soon be rejoining their kind, and would not much longer have to suffer the enormous frustrations of living in a world of such limitation and pettiness. That communication was also “overheard” by a very accurate professional psychic (which would make her about one in a hundred among professional psychics in my experience) who happened to be present.

It was information that explained so much. I could now see that so many of my qualities which I had put down as weaknesses in my character weren’t necessarily weaknesses after all. Rather, they were the result of my being temporarily a fish out of water, so to speak.

So I’ve known for some years that I was one of the earliest Volunteers or Wanderers, well before I’d come across mention of them by Dolores or in the Law Of One.

All my life everybody has continually regarded me as “different” – sometimes in very positive ways, such as original and creative, but always as a nonconformist no matter how many pains I sometimes took to conform or even to “be invisible” sometimes. But long ago I accepted that “different” is a major part of who I naturally am – relative to the standards on this planet. No dramas. “Loneliness” is also something that has always been a part of my life, not as a result of any conscious effort on my part. However, decades ago I learnt how to be incapable of feeling lonely any more. I well and truly left it behind me. It’s a somewhat sickly form of self-pity and of sadness, after all. And spiritual liberation is all about achieving freedom from unhappiness in all situations. So that form of unhappiness, among all sorts of others, has long gone for me.

[blue777]

quote:
Some years ago I managed to learn to occasionally communicate accurately with certain benevolent sixth-dimensional beings. They told me in passing that I would very soon be rejoining their kind, and would not much longer have to suffer the enormous frustrations of living in a world of such limitation and pettiness. That communication was also “overheard” by a very accurate professional psychic (which would make her about one in a hundred among professional psychics in my experience) who happened to be present.

And what did these 6th dimensional beings look like , and how did they contact you?
lol
blue

[Agape]

I'd just note down ..that we all are unique but some of us can't resist being original in our way of thought, in arts, in deeds,
and without original thought mankind would hardly move forwards, ever .

But then, we spend most of our energy and intelligence to find 'our place under the Sun' , no matter how original or unique we are, we all need to fit in to the system,
it takes years sometimes , to fit child with disability to the system, it takes years and sometimes centuries to human society to be able to accept individual/s who differ from average,
and sometimes, when we finally find the best place , metaphorically or not, where we feel 'home',

we spend lots of energy again to prove we are different ..and run away and forwards ..

and so it goes in rounds.

One day, i'm sure , there will be explanation for everything..till then..

[John Parslow]

Hello again Illuminate

Firstly I would like to thank you for that extremely warm welcome - I am very pleased to be here. I tend to agree that age is just a number, after all If I am everything that was, everything that is and everything that will be - then the numbers mean nothing. (That was not a pun for zero) ...

I am in total agreement with you about singing, my wife is in a choir and she is always on a high after a performance, so there is much in what you say. You are obviously an exceedingly enlightened human being and it is a sincere pleasure to meet you.

Sent with all my love and peace. JP :cool:

[Caren]

Hi John,
What a very warm post to our loving friend Illuminate. She is truly dear, a friend to all and IMHO Avalon
wouldn't be the same without her.
peace to all,
caren

[illuminate]

Wow John and Caren... wasn't expecting that! THANK YOU both!!!
Your love is making my heart swell = )

Ya know, there is something so super cool about Avalon...
I LOVE everyone here, even the ones who think I'm off my rocker!
Such a wonderful collection of highly intelligent and loving beings here!!!
BIG HUGS to everyone :hug: :hug: :hug:

With Love!
:love:

[NeoEmc2]

edit: posted a reply in the wrong thread

[illuminate]

You are obviously an exceedingly enlightened human being...:

Ah... the secret is WE ALL ARE!... we have just simply forgotten :love:

[Celine]

You are Love.


We are the physical manifestation of a creators love

[Steven]

Ah... the secret is WE ALL ARE!... we have just simply forgotten :love:

Wisdom of the children, the most beautiful form of wisdom, really you are beautiful.

Namaste, Steven

[TraineeHuman]

Blue777: Here's my reply to your question of what do sixth-dimensional beings I have communicated with look like. Firstly, there are the guardian angels and healing angels. Basically, these seem to deliberately stay very subtly concealed or camouflaged, and are therefore very hard for most people to ever see, even though almost everybody has at least two guardian angels who apparently stay by their side their whole life. I have found my guardian angels (plus any other angels they may invite along) easier to hear or feel rather than see. But when I have managed to see them, my own guardian angles have looked like very bright golden lights, with some very bright silver or pure-white light as well. (Other peoples' guardian angels usually look pure white or bright silver.)
The other sixth-dimensional beings I have communicated with at length and on more than one occasion have been gods. The gods seem to be even more elusive than the guardian angels. When I have seen them, it has been with my eyes shut, though the images I saw were very precise and detailed and vivid and colourful -- and totally unforgettable. The gods seem to like to show themselves in two different forms. One is very simple and childlike and playful, almost like a kids' cartoon but real nonetheless. And in this form the gods like to wear the most beautiful costumes and precious jewels and other paraphenalia in which some religion has depicted them. The colours remind me of the paintings of famous artists like Da Vinci etc etc. The other form I have seen the gods take is more adult. Some people would definitely find this form frightening, because you can see how powerful the god knows he/she is, how fierce. But it also feels rather liberating just to go along for the ride, so to speak, and see how a hugely liberated being sees the world. In my experience also, every time I have managed to communicate with a god they have given me a gift of some priceless good information. These are amazingly generous beings. The only trouble is, they don't seem to be interested in communicating with ordinary people much. I've always assumed they were interested in communicating with me purely because I came to this planet as a volunteer -- which interests them because they also occasionally volunteer to incarnate here. But if there are many Volunteers around now, I don't understand why many of them haven't also had one of the benevolent gods appear at some point of their life and steer them towards a big shortcut to greater spiritual liberation, and opened up something major (like the pineal gland / etc) each time they visited.

[sepia]

Originally Posted by FrankoL

Everybody feels special in a way. But we are not. Just like everybody else, playing the game of life.

I dont want to be negative or provocative, but I wanted to point out different point of view.

The tone and energy of your post resonates strongly with me, really does, dear FrankoL.

Being special - being normal: I'd like to add the following:

As humans we are just humans: there is shadow as well as light.
For ourselves we shall be the center of the universe - we have to take us as most important, because we only have us, we are the captain of our boat.

But this is true for everybody, and when we start to put ourselves on a pedestal and think that we belong there and are better than others, we end up in constant Ego-Fights because there is a huge competition! So we are special for us but at the same time just normal, the same in nature.

And as spiritual beings: We are really special, actually we are divine, complete and at the end are the Universe itself. There is nothing bigger - and again: true for every single one.

Superior because of this? Not at all. This would be just another Ego-Trap.

Spirituality makes you special and humble at the same time.

Thank you for your post :)

[Beth]

Wow, I'd really hope people didn't think this is ego driven. Just because a Brit comes to the US, doesn't mean the Brit is more special. Just means that person isn't from the US. That's it. But think and conjure up stuff as you will. Peace out and rock on.

[illuminate]

And as spiritual beings: We are really special, actually we are divine, complete and at the end are the Universe itself. There is nothing bigger - and again: true for every single one.

You bet!


Superior because of this? Not at all. This would be just another Ego-Trap.


I agree.
And just for clarity, in regards to this thread, there are no claims to any superiority.
Just a whole lotta LOVE :love:

[John Parslow]

Hello Ba-ba-ra

Thank you so much for very kind comments, apologies for not replying sooner. I am sincerely trying to feel you reaching out and yes I am really enjoying retirement - a long rest after a life-time of toil.

Love and peace to you my friend. JP :cool:

[FrankoL]

Wow, I'd really hope people didn't think this is ego driven. Just because a Brit comes to the US, doesn't mean the Brit is more special. Just means that person isn't from the US.

I agree, it should be like you said. Unfortunately as you probably know racism is everywhere and it derives from ego.

Sepia thanks! I am very glad that you understood my point of view.

[dreamchaser]

Ive often felt that I didnt belong here, on Earth. A few times I asked me Dad if I could see my birth cert! :S But then, when i was young, that didnt convince me i was sposed to be on earth. i had many moments of telepathy which lessened as I got older. I was convinced i could perform telekenisis! And confounded when i couldnt actually show anyone the proof of that. Not much made sense to me growing up, and that has only gotten worse as Ive gotten older! Most people confound me. They never seem to me to be very logical in their reasoning of a great many things.

But, just this morning I had a thought. Maybe I was right in my feelings that i dont belong here, in this place and time. BUT, maybe I was wrong that I dont belong on Earth. Maybe we ALL just dont belong in this mess the way the world is now. It hurts. Its hurts in my soul that we seem to be destroying and poluting the very world that keeps us alive. maybe we all DO belong here, just not in this mess the way it is now. Just a thought.

Love and peace to all! :love:

[Anchor]

Ive often felt that I didnt belong here, on Earth.

Some thoughts, if I may. Ignore them if they dont seem to fit in.

Consider it a choice you forgot you made. You didn't need to go anywhere, but you did.

It is not like you dont "belong" it is more that you find it consistently unusual - which for you, and many others like you, was one of the points of the exercise :)

If I may suggest, there isnt much you can do about this - you are here now.

Glad you are here anyway, to help the rest of us iron out some of the disharmonies and pain you have observed.

John..

[dreamchaser]

Thank you John. I do understand that. I know its a test for ALL of us. A chance to grow. I was just trying to suggest perhaps that we are NOT all alone in pain. So I believe anyway. ;)

Love and peace to all, Adrian :love:

[Anchor]

To my wanderer brothers and sisters, Here is a really nice video compilation I watched just now

"Someday I will find my way home"

8HC38xupAaY

Enjoy - it opens with a clip from my all time favorite movie "Contact", and then on to a little journey that after showing illusion to the challenges we face, was in the end quite uplifting.

[LeeEllisMusic]

Great find, John!
Thanks for a wonderful start to my day!

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9iH4hU6hYM&feature=related

[wynderer]

Hi All -- back to my own computer in my own little place, & very happy indeed

while away, i had time to do some clarification of thoughts -- i am not of the opinion that we are all ETs -- this seems to me to be a kind of dissing of Earth & her beings, as if being human is not good enough -- certainly Earth humans have been brainwashed into not respecting & cherishing this beautiful planet, & i think that wanting to be ET -- extraterrestial -- rather than terrestial, is a kind of continuation of not valuing this planet & the valuable experiences gained from being human for most if not all incarnations

the unethical ETs know that Earth & humans are valuable -- they have been here mining 'resources' for millennia, & more & more of the lower consciousness ETs have been coming in during the last 50 years, getting while the getting is good -- & if Earth falls under the complete control of the NWO, the consequences will go far beyond this little gem of a planet

i also think that wanting to identify oneself as ET rather than human is kind of like devaluing the Creator's obvious love of creating life forms in an infinite variety -- & also, being of genuine ET or higher dimensional origin [meaning most or all other incarnations have been spent not in an Earth human body] does not mean that all conflict is absent from one's experiences -- i think Alex Collier is one of the few well-known genuine contactees, & he portrays many galactic wars

we are all on our way to higher consciousness -- on our way Home -- a 6D ET &/or OD being has as much to learn & live as does a 3D/4D Earth human -- getting there is as important as being there, Home, imo

wynderer {PS: Mods -- oce again, i was refused permission to post, this time while still logged in -- trying again, logging out & then in again

[MariaDine]

Another tale about a Sleeper who awakens...Each one of us here is fighting to bring forth the memories...... Love and Peace MD



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4MGAYhaEc&feature=related

[truthseekerdan]

Thank you John for the great inspiring video clip. :cool: :love:

Also thank you MariaDine for the 'heart melting' video clip that you posted. :wub:

[LeeEllisMusic]

A friend sent me this piece, which looks like it's from a subscription only part of Solara's website ~ and it seems to fit this thread perfectly.
Great description of the energies swirling about us these days~~~

I have been thinking recently that not only are we bouncing between converging and diverging TIMELINES, but also between DIMENSIONS and DENSITIES as well~

Have you noticed a "letting go" of the past?... of your Old Self?....
Feeling that Something new is emerging... there's a sense of expectancy... perhaps even of dread,,,, of peace~~all at once!

Read on and enjoy~

Oh, it's good to know we're not alone!


SOLARA'S SURF UPDATE: AUGUST 16, 2010


Tsunamis of concentrated energy are pouring in, wave after wave after wave. Sometimes, they are so strong that we are flattened by the intensity. The air feels thick with so many different elements flying around in it. Many old components of the past are dropping off of us. At the same time, elements of the New are swirling around, waiting for the right conditions so they can finally land.

Once again, there's a sense that our Express Trains into the New and True have come to a sudden halt. It's another phase of unhooking old cars from the train and adding new ones. Some passengers are getting off, while others are jumping on the train with great excitement. Another wave of in-depth recalibration is taking place.

It's a funny time. It feels like we are traveling at top speed on the Fast Track, yet at the same time we are sitting in the waiting room with a rising sense of expectancy, waiting for something momentous to occur. We feel as if something immensely life-changing is about to happen at any minute.

The energy around us is so immensely concentrated that it is nearly impossible to clearly see what is actually happening, and what is not. The concentration of energies is so strong and so full of hidden elements. It is pregnant with a whole spectrum of possibilities. The present moment is so full of huge things that are happening that it often feels as if nothing is happening.

It's like having a stove full of simmering pots. There are so many of them cooking away, that we can't tell which ones are almost ready to eat. There are so many pots that we can't even give them our full attention. All we can do is to stir them, occasionally throw in some new ingredients, adjust the temperature so they don't boil over, and know that everything will be ready when it reaches its right timing.

At the same time, any sense of having control over our lives in the old ways we used to control things, is dissolving away. The only way that we can influence the direction we are going in is to fully align ourselves with the powerful current of Right Time - Right Place and set our internal compass to the setting of Trueness.

All the while, we feel like we are swimming in a Sea of Unreality. This sense of heightened unrealness impermeates the remnants of our old lives. Yet, at the same time, there are pockets that feel ultra real. These pockets of super realness become the stepping stones into our New Lives. And this is the path that will lead us into our Truest Direction.

This all-pervading sense of unreality isn't going to suddenly go away. It's part of our new normal. It comes with traveling through the Transition Zone between our expired old landscapes and our New Landscape. And it actually helps us cope with the myriad elements that we currently have to deal with.

Despite the uncertainty and the intensity, I really love this time. I have never before felt such a surge of deep liberation. We are breaking free of the past as never before. And just like pulling Arthur's sword out of the stone, there is a powerful element of emergence to this time which fills me with excitement, wonder and a profound gratefulness.

The True Ones are definitely emerging. And we have been waiting for this for a very long time.....

With PURE HEART LOVE,
Solara
http://www.nvisible.com/

[illuminate]

Awesome video John... I really like what Blossom Goodchild has to say...
good for her for bouncing back and making such an admirable statement.

and Marie...
Without change something sleeps inside us and seldom awakens... perfect! :love:


Hi All -- back to my own computer in my own little place, & very happy indeed

while away, i had time to do some clarification of thoughts -- i am not of the opinion that we are all ETs -- this seems to me to be a kind of dissing of Earth & her beings, as if being human is not good enough -- certainly Earth humans have been brainwashed into not respecting & cherishing this beautiful planet, & i think that wanting to be ET -- extraterrestrial -- rather than terrestrial, is a kind of continuation of not valuing this planet & the valuable experiences gained from being human for most if not all incarnations

the unethical ETs know that Earth & humans are valuable -- they have been here mining 'resources' for millennia, & more & more of the lower consciousness ETs have been coming in during the last 50 years, getting while the getting is good -- & if Earth falls under the complete control of the NWO, the consequences will go far beyond this little gem of a planet

i also think that wanting to identify oneself as ET rather than human is kind of like devaluing the Creator's obvious love of creating life forms in an infinite variety -- & also, being of genuine ET or higher dimensional origin [meaning most or all other incarnations have been spent not in an Earth human body] does not mean that all conflict is absent from one's experiences -- i think Alex Collier is one of the few well-known genuine contactees, & he portrays many galactic wars

we are all on our way to higher consciousness -- on our way Home -- a 6D ET &/or OD being has as much to learn & live as does a 3D/4D Earth human -- getting there is as important as being there, Home, imo

wynderer

Thank YOU Wynderer... so glad to have you back!

With Love!:love:

[Dale]

Hello, all! This has been a very interesting thread to read.

I've thought of myself as a "wanderer" since I was a child. Of course then, I had no idea what a "wanderer" was. I simply knew, since such a young age, that I was "just visiting" this troubled planet, and that I'd better "play my cards right" so I could get done what I needed to. Try explaining that to your buddies in grade school :p

I'd be more than happy to discuss the "wanderer phenomenon," as well as my experiences, in a private message. It's nice to find a group who has had similar feelings and experiences.