Are the Reptilians and Greys real?

[truth4me]

I can only speak for me and IMHO they are real. Have I seen on face to face in the 3-D world in which we live ? no I have not. Have I seen them in the astral ream? yes,more then a few times. When I first started " waking up" then they made their apperence. The first appearence was 2008 as I layed down and started relaxing with my eyes close out of the darkness a grey"alien" face appeared. It scared the hell out of me. I jumped up,it was no dream, I was shaking,pretty intense to say the least. After that one --the next time both a grey and reptilian appeared together. I can pretty much go into the astral ream or at least what I call the astral ream with ease. I've seen them and even have told them to "get lost" because I fear them no more. Then they would just fade.


Like I said I believe they are real and I also believe in the work of David Icke. I also respect peoples right to believe in what they choose.

[Referee]

Yes

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[Occam's Razor]

I'm wondering if "real" is simply in the eye of the preceiver and the thoughts manifest them and their behavior...Not sure...I'm bouncing back n forth on this thought..I feel like I have a lot more power than they want me to know...

[ulli]

I'm wondering if "real" is simply in the eye of the preceiver and the thoughts manifest them and their behavior...Not sure...I'm bouncing back n forth on this thought..I feel like I have a lot more power than they want me to know...

It starts with one. But a larger group that reaches consensus can manifest a larger reality than a single individual.
Hence there is so much mind manipulation going on in the media.
If you want something badly and you get a newsletter out and all your neighbors devote time and effort to the plan then it won't take long at all to manifest that reality.
Now imagine what the Western PTB could achieve if they had all of the Middle East drop their religion and exchange it for consumerism.

[Unified Serenity]

With cgi so much is faked. When you look at the still image it looks like an office chair with something on top. When you watch the video it changes and appears to move some. Again, I am reticent to trust a lot of these videos because we saw people running with dinosaurs in Jurassic park and there are quite a few people who could pull this stunt off, and yes put it out there in a news story for the world to see. SEE IT"S REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, are we being played for their psy op game, blue beam fears and alien dreams? I'm not quick to trust this stuff. Recently, I was investigating some reptilian stuff, and most of the stuff on youtube is just a compression issue. Watch the vids in HD and it all disappears. Am I saying there are no reptillians? No, I'm not, but every glitch and what appears to be morphing is just compression issues, but for those who want to believe, nothing I say will matter. This alien chasing is becoming our new religion and I see it more and more clearly every day. I could even say congratulations to those who have taken a hold of this new religion for you may become the new apostles talked about in 2000 years. I wonder who is the New Paul / Faul.

[Turcurulin]

The Reptilian is not in the window, but in the very forefront of the shot... standing behind the podium!

[Unified Serenity]

If you want something badly and you get a newsletter out and all your neighbors devote time and effort to the plan then it won't take long at all to manifest that reality.
Now imagine what the Western PTB could achieve if they had all of the Middle East drop their religion and exchange it for consumerism.

Yes, as visions of sugarplum fairies danced in their heads.

[aranuk]

I thought it was a reflection of a cameraman's white shirt.

Stan

[BestLion]

I don't know about the greys, but many people have claimed to have seen them in an altered state of conscience. I do think the reptilians are real, just too much overwhelming evidence in folklore, history writings about them.

[truth4me]

This is another "grey" story that is real. One night I went into the astral realm and entered a dark room while there. This grey appeared and pulled a bright gold box like object out of nowhere and it seemed to hum. For what ever reason I was scared of the object. Another astral realm travel I came upon some soldiers in a desert. They were gathered around their camp and they appeared to be American soldiers. It was daytime and I was roughly 25 feet or so away. They pulled the same type object that the grey did out of their tent and pointed it at me. I just remember coming back to my body and quick.

Did this really happen? To me it did was as real as I'm typing on this computer. Was it really the astral realm or an "altered state of conscience"? Whatever it is I can go there and those events above did happen.......

[Bright Garlick]

Great question. It is really all a matter if language and perception.
I have been criticized considerably for saying that Reptilians do not exist. So I am not going into a long explanation of why I hold this opinion - suffice to say I have spent time on craft, had contact with 27 races (10 fully conscious) and asked the question of 2 Creator Races.

Our language and the assumptions that come from it are the real problem. There is nothing that has anything to do with the biological reptile of Earth or has reptile like scales. That is all of our own creation. But the most significant issue is the projection of archetypes by those who are delusioned and by those who are having real experiences but cannot function properly in the presence of ET's. And of course the reptilian has a long history in our modern cultural mythology. From an ancestral POV - it is usually a totemic ancestral being, which modern humans have misinterpreted as a living entity.

Few people like to hear what I have to say on the subject but I think I have some experience with the subject. My friend who was once employed by a certain government to track visiting ET's, had access to the complete catalogue of visiting races. There were no reptilians or reptile like entities.

As to the greys - that is a term that covers many different races. Some greys exist and others are archetypes. The Teal'hia is a Creator Race I have regular contact with - they have been called greys but that label does not fit them well. The term grey is confining, ignorant and disrespectful. One day we will laugh at how that name was used.

Before finding an answer to this question, people would benefit from clearly defining what they mean by these terms. It has unfortunately on a wider scale corrupted the whole of Alienology and created it's own false mythology.

Best wishes,

Bright.

[Tony]

Great question. It is really all a matter if language and perception.
I have been criticized considerably for saying that Reptilians do not exist. So I am not going into a long explanation of why I hold this opinion - suffice to say I have spent time on craft, had contact with 27 races (10 fully conscious) and asked the question of 2 Creator Races.

Our language and teh assumptions that come from it are the real problem. There is nothing that has anything to do with teh biological reptile of Earth or has reptile like scales. That is all of our own creation. But teh most significant issue is teh projection of archetypes by those who are delusioned and by those who are having real experiences but cannot function properly in teh presence of ET's. And of course teh reptilian has a long history in our modern cultural mythology. From an ancestral POV - it is usually a totemic ancestral being, which modern humans have misinterpreted as a living entity.

Few people like to hear what I have to say on the subject but I think I have some experience with the subject. My friend who was once employed by a certain government to track visiting ET's, had access to the complete catalogue of visiting races. There were no reptilians or reptile like entities.

As to the greys - that is a term that covers many different races. Some greys exist and others are archetypes. The tEal'hia is a Creator Race I have regular contact with - they have been called greys but that label does not fit them well. The term grey is confining, ignorant and disrespectful. One day we will laugh at how that name was used.

Before finding an answer to this question, people would benefit from clearly defining what they mean by these terms. It has unfortunately on a wider scale corrupted the whole of Alienology and created it's own false mythology.

Best wishes,

Bright.


Hello bright,
I agree, metaphor taken as reality. We have a small reptilian brain (primitive brain) which governs flight, fight or freeze-
it's useful for getting out of the way of danger.

As for aliens, we are all drifting aliens. Which mean we are not human, we only embody this form for a short while.


Tony

[Bongo]

The term grey is confining, ignorant and disrespectful.


Well what ever race it was that caused so many problems in my life, I hope they see the term "grey" as disrespectful since they are in fact scum.

[KiwiElf]

I don't know about the greys, but many people have claimed to have seen them in an altered state of conscience. I do think the reptilians are real, just too much overwhelming evidence in folklore, history writings about them.

Agreed,.. and like UFOs, can that many witnesses, whistleblowers and abductees be wrong? They can't all be "mistaken" ;)

[Aquarius Rising]

Thank-you, Bright.

I like the information provided in your post. It makes sense to me. I have been 'visited,' and have had contact with beings that I struggle to define for as far back as I can remember. It began when I was two years old. These experiences are beyond my own realm of comprehension, and I cannot...will not...ever be able to devise a name , or a purpose for what has happened to me during both day and night.

It was particularly difficult during my 'teen' years. My family experienced strange phenomenon throughout my life as well growing up, but not to the same extent. They feared that I was 'possessed' by some evil entity, relating the occurrences to a demonic-like force. It was shameful at the time, and in hindsight it is laughable. As a toddler these beings were able to communicate with me in a way I could understand. My parents thought it was cute, they believed I had a magnificent set of imaginary friends until they too saw them and became terrified. Many of my memories of those experiences (from age two to nearly four) have faded away. I only remember them as a triangle of three 'willowy' floaters who moved in sync. I remember their energy...how the one at front and center 'felt' feminine...like a mother. She spoke through her eyes, and often asked me to demonstrate how to play with toys, observing me and my interaction with toddler toys.

It is as if, over the years, my ability to understand them has deteriorated. They try to tell me things...show me things. Sometimes the messages come through. But, for me, they are not 'Greys,' nor angels or demons. They sometimes seem vulnerable, small, and frightened. Their large eyes like pools of mercury reflecting my own doubts and frustrations. I have seen them during the daylight, and I have watched them fade into walls. Sometimes they are invisible. I have reached the conclusion that they are what they wish for me to see them as under changing and specific circumstances. The truth is, I can only say that they 'are.' I am also certain that my own understanding of them, who they are, where they come from, and their attraction to me will remain the same at the very last moment of my life. Simply: they are.