Off Worlder Mentorship, thoughts?

[DreamsInDigital]

Here is something we need to start thinking about and talking about. The eventuality of us as a race being mentored by Off Worlders. I'll pose some questions that were put out to a group of people before, and I would like everyone to answer them thoroughly as possible. Open mentorship is our destiny. It’s going to happen anyway, but we cannot wait for the rest of the world to turn itself around.

1.) What would it be like for you to be mentored by several benevolent extraterrestrial races? What would that be like?

2.) What would we need to do to establish, not only that communication, but at the same time have us feel safe, with checks and balances, so that they could walk their talk and we have to walk our talk?

3.) If you were to meet a Benevolent Off Worlder, maybe be approached by one or see one walking around. How would you react?

4.) What would be some of the first questions you would ask them?

5.) How can they help you personally? (and, I mean without consideration of financial or material objects/contributions)

Ok, I'm going to leave it at this for now.

[pyriel]

Think you need to also say this is from alex collier's Awake and Aware lecture or at least some of the "questions" are.

[DreamsInDigital]

Well yeah, some of them are. But, that's beside the point and isn't really relevant to the purpose of why I am asking these questions. I decided to take the opportunity and pose them to everyone here. Please, answer them.

[Herbert]

I’ve never written anything this long before and I apologize to those who prefer short and concise as well as to those who are obsessed with “Disclosure”.

My feeling is that most people have been brainwashed into believing that because e.t.s are from the 4th dimension, and therefore have more advanced technology, they are in a position to give advice to the average human. This illusion is exacerbated by the veil of ignorance we chose to experience here in physical bodies in order to expand our feeling continuum. To feel is to create and the broader your feeling experiences the better creator you become. Remember that technology is a crutch and ultimately a trap.

What we fail to take into account is the fact that all souls arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions and gradually moved down through each dimensional experience to where they are now. In other words, we have more experience than most e.t.s because we are experiencing the highest compression (testing) possible in 3rd dimension. Although that pressure is overall accelerating, as most of us can readily attest to, ( life is becoming harder and we are tiring) it waxes and wanes literally with the moon which is exerting compression while we are vigorously expanding our feeling consciousness. We are advancing beyond the need for technology by connecting our ego to the heart centre rather than the mind. This can be said in many ways. But basically we are the first graduating class and those e.t.s who are not jealous of us are actually in awe and respect for what we have made of ourselves.

Expanding consciousness is not of the mind. It is of the heart. We are the masters and very few of us are irresponsible creators. There is an illusion being propagated by an off-world group that we are irresponsible. But many are seeing through that illusion and we do not need e.t. races to explain that to us. It is not that many years ago when it was unheard of to look inward for truth. Now it is second nature. We feel the truth immediately because it resonates with whom we are which goes beyond linear, intellectual analysis. The heart is much wiser than the mind.

In answer to your basic question I would greet them as I would any stranger – with warmth and humour. And if they were from Sirius I would already know them, taking up where we left off. Do they have something to teach us? As a group of explorers who has been everywhere and done everything – including blowing up our own planet – probably not.

George Kavassilas interviews on youtube are a good primer on my perspective if anyone hasn’t already seen them. Yes he has a contrary view to the human experience of tediously slow progression and having to fight every step of the way, but when something happens in this Universe that has never happened before, surely it goes beyond human experience as we have known it . . .

Thank you for the questions Dreamsindigital. It does help to explore ones own feelings and Avalon along with this question provide a great vehicle for that.

[mojo]

Hi DreamsInDigital, It's neat your offering an alternative to Dr. Greers ambassador training program. I wanted to attend his annual Mt Shasta one but couldn't afford the cost @$1000. I think there is something to be learned by gathering information from a number of sources. Like ESTI, and CSETI, and contactees.That sounds like what your trying to do here. I hope some good insight is garnered as a result...Thanks

[Anchor]

> 1.) What would it be like for you to be mentored by several benevolent extraterrestrial races? What would that be like?

I already have been to some extent, via those channeled works that passed my inner discernment. It has been very helpful to me.

> 2.) What would we need to do to establish, not only that communication, but at the same time have us feel safe, with checks and balances, so that they could walk their talk and we have to walk our talk?

Its all getting done anyway. We can remain positive. Tell people what we know if and when its appropriate to do that.

ET will not "disclose" until people wont come after them with shotguns, commit suicide, panic, go nuts etc. This can only happen when the majority of people on Earth accept the fact of ET and the establishment programming of ET are here to invade and take over has been largely undone.

> 3.) If you were to meet a Benevolent Off Worlder, maybe be approached by one or see one walking around. How would you react?

Hugs and open arms I should think.

> 4.) What would be some of the first questions you would ask them?

Where do we start? How can I help ?

> 5.) How can they help you personally? (and, I mean without consideration of financial or material objects/contributions)

By helping everyone. We are all in this together. I dont need help personally - we all need help.

[Unified Serenity]

I’ve never written anything this long before and I apologize to those who prefer short and concise as well as to those who are obsessed with “Disclosure”.

My feeling is that most people have been brainwashed into believing that because e.t.s are from the 4th dimension, and therefore have more advanced technology, they are in a position to give advice to the average human. This illusion is exacerbated by the veil of ignorance we chose to experience here in physical bodies in order to expand our feeling continuum. To feel is to create and the broader your feeling experiences the better creator you become. Remember that technology is a crutch and ultimately a trap.

What we fail to take into account is the fact that all souls arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions and gradually moved down through each dimensional experience to where they are now. In other words, we have more experience than most e.t.s because we are experiencing the highest compression (testing) possible in 3rd dimension. Although that pressure is overall accelerating, as most of us can readily attest to, ( life is becoming harder and we are tiring) it waxes and wanes literally with the moon which is exerting compression while we are vigorously expanding our feeling consciousness. We are advancing beyond the need for technology by connecting our ego to the heart centre rather than the mind. This can be said in many ways. But basically we are the first graduating class and those e.t.s who are not jealous of us are actually in awe and respect for what we have made of ourselves.

Expanding consciousness is not of the mind. It is of the heart. We are the masters and very few of us are irresponsible creators. There is an illusion being propagated by an off-world group that we are irresponsible. But many are seeing through that illusion and we do not need e.t. races to explain that to us. It is not that many years ago when it was unheard of to look inward for truth. Now it is second nature. We feel the truth immediately because it resonates with whom we are which goes beyond linear, intellectual analysis. The heart is much wiser than the mind.

In answer to your basic question I would greet them as I would any stranger – with warmth and humour. And if they were from Sirius I would already know them, taking up where we left off. Do they have something to teach us? As a group of explorers who has been everywhere and done everything – including blowing up our own planet – probably not.

George Kavassilas interviews on youtube are a good primer on my perspective if anyone hasn’t already seen them. Yes he has a contrary view to the human experience of tediously slow progression and having to fight every step of the way, but when something happens in this Universe that has never happened before, surely it goes beyond human experience as we have known it . . .

Thank you for the questions Dreamsindigital. It does help to explore ones own feelings and Avalon along with this question provide a great vehicle for that.

I really appreciate what you have shared here Herbert, as it does speak to my heart. I am not all that impressed with the whole alien's are coming here to help us idea. Some of us are very wise and some are not so wise. It's a spiritual evolution which I see happening, and we run all levels of the spectrum. So, thanks for your insights.

[DreamsInDigital]

Hi DreamsInDigital, It's neat your offering an alternative to Dr. Greers ambassador training program. I wanted to attend his annual Mt Shasta one but couldn't afford the cost @$1000. I think there is something to be learned by gathering information from a number of sources. Like ESTI, and CSETI, and contactees.That sounds like what your trying to do here. I hope some good insight is garnered as a result...Thanks
Definitely part of the idea of the project is to develop Ambassadors and Diplomats for when the contact occurs to make it more easier and ultimately safer for everyone involved. There are certainly many layers to the project, :) And, it's a little slow going right now but after the holidays it will be picking up. And, it will be wonderful to have you and the others that are interested and supporting to be a part of it. More than anything, I just want to help others. If even you prefer to PM to me, it would be interesting to see your answers to the questions.

It's important these questions get asked, because this is where we are heading. Whether some are ready for it or not. OR are even open to it or not. The Off Worlders want to know what they are getting into and how to approach us just as much as we are wondering the same of them.

[spiritguide]

Definitely part of the idea of the project is to develop Ambassadors and Diplomats for when the contact occurs to make it more easier and ultimately safer for everyone involved. There are certainly many layers to the project, :) And, it's a little slow going right now but after the holidays it will be picking up. And, it will be wonderful to have you and the others that are interested and supporting to be a part of it. More than anything, I just want to help others. If even you prefer to PM to me, it would be interesting to see your answers to the questions.

It's important these questions get asked, because this is where we are heading. Whether some are ready for it or not. OR are even open to it or not. The Off Worlders want to know what they are getting into and how to approach us just as much as we are wondering the same of them.

What makes you think we need ambassadors? We have them now and they can't even communicate with each other from an earthly peaceful point of view. Our ascention into the light does not need ambassadors it needs LOVE.

:peace:

[DreamsInDigital]

Because I think it's important and so do a lot of other people to provide these Off Worlders with some terrans that are better prepared than the average Joe to make first more wide spread contact. And, also better educate terrans here on this planet. It's very important this is done.

Please people, no more "off topic" or Non-Question answering post in this thread. This is something that needs to be taken very seriously and with a certain level of respect.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

man where do you start with that one....lol...

I wanna know EVERYTHING! - So I guess a universe university would be the go with other races teaching/lecturing much like what we see on PC or Veritas or C2C ... I reckon that's why we listen to so many of these radio shows, they are getting us prepared for the way we will be educated when we hit cosmic consciousness !

But then again there may be the "matrix" instant download version which would be pretty special....

Exchange of people to experience other off world culture - much like the student exchange programs in the 80s we had at school!

So many possibilities! :)

[etm567]

What we fail to take into account is the fact that all souls arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions and gradually moved down through each dimensional experience to where they are now. In other words, we have more experience than most e.t.s because we are experiencing the highest compression (testing) possible in 3rd dimension. Although that pressure is overall accelerating, as most of us can readily attest to, ( life is becoming harder and we are tiring) it waxes and wanes literally with the moon which is exerting compression while we are vigorously expanding our feeling consciousness. We are advancing beyond the need for technology by connecting our ego to the heart centre rather than the mind. This can be said in many ways. But basically we are the first graduating class and those e.t.s who are not jealous of us are actually in awe and respect for what we have made of ourselves.

Why do you say this?
...the fact that all souls arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions and gradually moved down through each dimensional experience to where they are now.

Why do you say we all arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions? That is not what I'm familiar with. Curious minds want to know!

[wolf_rt]

1.) What would it be like for you to be mentored by several benevolent extraterrestrial races? What would that be like?
If they want to share information, they're free to do so... It would be interesting, but not necessarily beneficial... I'm no more likley to hand my power to an alien than i am to a human or a 'god'

2.) What would we need to do to establish, not only that communication, but at the same time have us feel safe, with checks and balances, so that they could walk their talk and we have to walk our talk?
By not imposing a teacher/student relationship... by relating as individual beings who are all on there own individual journey.

3.) If you were to meet a Benevolent Off Worlder, maybe be approached by one or see one walking around. How would you react?
Wave and approach to say hello.

4.) What would be some of the first questions you would ask them?
Why are you here? what do you want?

5.) How can they help you personally? (and, I mean without consideration of financial or material objects/contributions)
By giving us FE tech, so we can stop destroying the planet, and hence give me a place to continue my journey.

[Chucky]

1.) I would be honored to have a friend that is wise as they have evolved far further than myself. I would be a promising student and listen attentively as I could. I would seek an understanding of all the beings here to mentor us. Most importantly I would be learning to teach my own people. I feel it would be a most enlightenening experience and a definate honor to help man kind here to progress away from destructive ways to a more full filling future with friends I could trust to be just that. Friends not masters.

2.) We would need a consensus amongst us people. To agree that fighting is not accepted. We would need to allow that some people will be fearful and we must put in place help from us for those so they can slowly at their speed come around to these beings , being here in person. The visitors will need to be assured safe areas where we can come to them and they can come to us at local agreed areas. This would prevent unexpected meetings with people who are not ready yet. A general protocal set up would be needed for us both.

3.) Right now I am not sure. The problem is deception is a problem here. I would have to wing it but with enough proof that they mean no harm and have clear intentions to assist not dominate then I would approach them cautiously but with interest and hope to make a new friend.

4.) First question would be to ask or state their intentions. Maybe test it and ask to meet again later. If they accept this and move along then I would say they respect my free. This will show they understand time is needed for trust to form and won't be taken as an insult but constructive approach for us.. If they respect this then I will respect them. If they agree then it may provide enough time to absorb the new feelings and hopefully lay the ground work to meet on neutral ground and begin dialogue. I for one would need to know where they come from. What they basically believe about us and their intentions as in goal or objective for them being here standing in front of me. I would like a back ground on their peoples living along with why they are here specifically. Then i would ask them what help they would like from us and what help would they assist us with. It all Starts from trust.

5.) I would ask for the truth here. What can they assist me with would be purely about myself on a spiritual level and how we can really begin to grow along side eachother as a species and as friends. This is riches I seek personally and the beginning of a new world or universal group of friends woould no doubt give huge possibilities to expand and help each other into our futures. I would like to learn how to heal properly, Truth so I can teach it, Gain knowledge to grow our capabilities to be an active participant with our friends out there. Then the most important part of course and this is the first part. Spiritual recognition of myself. I want to know who I am and have been. I want to begin to carry through my lives again. This we all need but we need to know what the word resposibility really means. I am all for it and ready to take that responsibility and given a chance I would ask the visitors for a history lesson and start from there.

Final feelings: I honestly right now don't know how I would react but my heart says right now in this very moment there is too much interference from negative ones. I will stand by my people here before taking off with the off worlders. Any and I mean Any race that comes we need to be vigilant and use our instincts. Our free will must be respected. First sign of ultimatums or god like dominance must be met with refusal from us. They must leave. If they are truly here to help then they should know already it will take time and honesty from both oursides to truly begin this mentoring. Don't give away your rights and they should be the first to stipulate this. If they do then I hope I meet these guys, then I would shake there hands in honor to have met. The rest is exciting and I hope one day I can stand with many races side by side and always know I am there to assist them when in need and also have their assistance. We will and must always call home a place where we are safe and free. Thanks.


Here is something we need to start thinking about and talking about. The eventuality of us as a race being mentored by Off Worlders. I'll pose some questions that were put out to a group of people before, and I would like everyone to answer them thoroughly as possible. Open mentorship is our destiny. It’s going to happen anyway, but we cannot wait for the rest of the world to turn itself around.

1.) What would it be like for you to be mentored by several benevolent extraterrestrial races? What would that be like?

2.) What would we need to do to establish, not only that communication, but at the same time have us feel safe, with checks and balances, so that they could walk their talk and we have to walk our talk?

3.) If you were to meet a Benevolent Off Worlder, maybe be approached by one or see one walking around. How would you react?

4.) What would be some of the first questions you would ask them?

5.) How can they help you personally? (and, I mean without consideration of financial or material objects/contributions)

Ok, I'm going to leave it at this for now.

[jcocks]

I like the idea of developing ambassadors, and would love to do that course... But for $1000??? That high barrier to entry cuts out a lot of very good potential candidates. Besides, my gut tells me that the people who end up fulfilling this role will have an innate gift for it - you don't need to do a course to do it. I'm very wary of people who ask large amounts of money for this stuff.

[jcocks]

Why do you say we all arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions? That is not what I'm familiar with. Curious minds want to know!

It's a stepping-down process from Source (the highest dimension). This human embodiment is not our "natural" form, and it takes time to "acclimatize" to the conditions. It's a bit like surfacing from a deep-sea dive. You have to do it gradually, or you get "the benz"...Also, think about how hard you find it here at times. Now imagine how much more difficult it would be if all you knew before this was bliss and oneness.

[Chucky]

I'd say just as a guess when or if this actually occurs I would imagine money is going to be not around. it is a belief system and from their point of view if you are ready and able to stand tall as you! then you will no doubt not need money on the day just a heart and strong sense to seek the way of doing it. It starts with trust yourself and believe in that. No doubt you see you can so don't let the money be a problem. Think about how you would be an embassador and work from there from the heart and common sense. :) I believe we are all more than what we think we are personaly.


I like the idea of developing ambassadors, and would love to do that course... But for $1000??? That high barrier to entry cuts out a lot of very good potential candidates. Besides, my gut tells me that the people who end up fulfilling this role will have an innate gift for it - you don't need to do a course to do it. I'm very wary of people who ask large amounts of money for this stuff.

[Chucky]

Good point. I'd say if we woke up right now the regessives would no doubt run like the clappers. We would be so powerful in our ways then they would panick and never come back. I believe that is the reason they want us dead or atleast controlled. Would be funny though one minute they have control and then the next look them in the eye with our rebirth of who we are so to speak. Would be funny like the them having us by the throat and then us being in amnesia are really their boss and we woke up. What the hell do you think you are doing with your hands around my neck dude. You are so in trouble.!!!!!! :sleep::eek::shocked::hand::tsk::boxing::victory:




Why do you say we all arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions? That is not what I'm familiar with. Curious minds want to know!

It's a stepping-down process from Source (the highest dimension). This human embodiment is not our "natural" form, and it takes time to "acclimatize" to the conditions. It's a bit like surfacing from a deep-sea dive. You have to do it gradually, or you get "the benz"...Also, think about how hard you find it here at times. Now imagine how much more difficult it would be if all you knew before this was bliss and oneness.

[DreamsInDigital]

I like the idea of developing ambassadors, and would love to do that course... But for $1000??? That high barrier to entry cuts out a lot of very good potential candidates. Besides, my gut tells me that the people who end up fulfilling this role will have an innate gift for it - you don't need to do a course to do it. I'm very wary of people who ask large amounts of money for this stuff.
I wanted to address this specifically. The poster that mentioned the $1,000 fee was for a specific trip to Mount Shasta, CA. Associated with George Green. For something not in anyway associated with the project I am developing, or even this series of questions. In the project that I am developing, everything would be absolutely free. It is not in the best interest of either the Off Worlders or Terrans to make a business out of this or make it preventative for those that aren't in the higher echelons of the financial pyramid. So, just so everyone is clear with it. There would be no charges for anything.

And, something else that I think needs to be cleared up. The concept of Open Mentorship at least as it applies here. Would put us Terrans on EQUAL ground and standing with the Off Worlders, they want to be treated as equals and would do so with us in return. Aside from that. Mentorship, the idea of that is to either help someone find the tools and develop what they need to grow as a human being and integrate into the universe around us. Or give them the tools and guide them in what ever way is needed for growth and adjustment into a future that involves interaction on a regular basis with Off Worlders.

The time frame I'm looking at, just for an idea is the next 1-2 yrs btw. With all good intentions though, to start next year.

And, just for the record. We are all BORN with Telepathic and other Psi-abilities. It is only through environmental influences that some don't fully develop them. Or turn them off. Others are nurtured and able to develop them from birth.

[wolf_rt]

DreamsInDigital, the word 'mentorship' does not allow for a meeting of equals.

[markpierre]

1.) What would it be like for you to be mentored by several benevolent extraterrestrial races? What would that be like?

Not that odd. I've had a fair bit of mentoring. I felt honored and confronted. I'm not sure how much I retained, but it was all relevant at the time. There is no real fundamental difference other than that we tend to believe we're good enough and so we behave stupidly or go mute or acquiesce to anything. The most difficult thing I had to accept is that they consider us to be their peers, at least the ones I've heard from. And until we get that straight in our heads and learn to behave as their peers, we'll just continue on in our old cattle patterns. I'm not talking about just anyone. I'm talking about anyone available enough for them to communicate with. Some of us are their own, we just don't remember. We'll be reminded. Some of us do remember.
If I were going to pick an ambassador, I'd choose someone fairly lucid. I haven't encountered a whole lot of ET fanatics who are particularly lucid, but there must be a few. But look at the people they've chosen. No particular credentials, no particular prior interest.
Honesty seems to be a factor. That's not a common human trait.

2.) What would we need to do to establish, not only that communication, but at the same time have us feel safe, with checks and balances, so that they could walk their talk and we have to walk our talk?

'We' don't have to do anything. Just get over the idea that there's anything weird or fantastic going on. We're just joining in on what's been going on all along. All the checks and balances that we practice on each other are part of the thinking structures that we've been addicted to that have disallowed contact in the past.

3.) If you were to meet a Benevolent Off Worlder, maybe be approached by one or see one walking around. How would you react?

I can't say. No one can say with honesty. I would hope with love and gratitude. Maybe after a change of underwear.

4.) What would be some of the first questions you would ask them?

Do I look alright? How's my breath?
These guys aren't God. They don't have the answers that are going to make the difference for us. The difference has already been made in our intentions and our great joy will be in acting it out, and they can be useful in enjoying that with us. Maybe we can get on to some joint projects that will define the structures of the future. But if they find themselves here just to give us advice, I think they would rather be home playing with their kids.

5.) How can they help you personally? (and, I mean without consideration of financial or material objects/contributions)

By not patronizing me. I've had a gut full of authorities telling me things I know or should remember, and things that I know better than to agree with. There is one single authority. And I'm not too worried about that. I've never experienced that from an 'other dimensional' personality. I've experienced them being humored by my discomfort. That was embarrassing. But an interesting and useful thing for me was that my own petty little personal agenda fell right into perspective, which means it pretty much meant nothing. That was a HUGE help. Now that my petty little personal agenda has pretty much disintegrated before my eyes, I feel pretty ready to get on with whatever's next. Maybe they can help me out with that. I have a few ideas, I'd like some more information and so far there's no one to ask.
Maybe they'd be open to hire out as babysitters. The kids that are coming in don't have much time for old ways of thinking.

Hey, these hypothetical questions are fun but it is a serious issue. Real communication is through open hearts and crowns and disciplined minds. We're already in communication, and they know who's who. If we get our conditioned brains and intellect involved too much, it will make it very difficult for them and infinitely difficult for us. We should be very careful who we choose of our own to guide us.

The first criteria is trust, and I'd be more concerned about making sure I was trustworthy.

[mojo]

I agree with the cost issue, the program I was referring was Dr. Steven Greer's cseti program and how this thread is a nice alternative to that, by sharing the info for free...:)

[DreamsInDigital]

@ Markpierre
I am being serious with these questions and my intent on developing a project that I am currently working on. It seems it's just been a few of the people that have replied to the original post that aren't taking this seriously. Thankyou for your response. :) The end result is the idea to make contact safe and easier for everyone involved.

DreamsInDigital, the word 'mentorship' does not allow for a meeting of equals.
When each part of the equation is contributing to the other, then the mentorship effort is very much a meeting of equals.

@ Mojo,
Yes, I just wanted to clarify it for some that might have been not fully paying attention to the separation between what is going on here, and what you were talking about. In regards to the other person's project.

[wolf_rt]

Perhaps you should look for a better word then... 'Mentorship' does not indicate an exchange between equals, but a student/teacher relationship.

Believe me, i take this very seriously indeed... Obviously our ideas on the subject do not mesh, but that does not make either of our opinions invalid.

Presumably you posted this to have input from other perspectives? Don't get upset then if everybody doesn't agree with your perspective.

Sorry if this comes across as combative... i can see it does... It's not my intention to derail your thread, just wanted to state my opinion.



I agree, and I wasn't emplying you were one of them. I thought it would be very obvious the ones I was ;) I am not sure how our ideas don't mesh so much though? Maybe I missed something.


I guess i am just feeling a bit touchy on this subject at the moment... sorry to get defensive :-)


From Wiki:

Mentorship refers to a personal developmental relationship in which a more experienced or more knowledgeable person helps a less experienced or less knowledgeable person.

The person in receipt of mentorship may be referred to as a protégé (male), a protégée (female), an apprentice or, in recent years, a mentee.

"Mentoring" is a process that always involves communication and is relationship based, but its precise definition is elusive. One definition of the many that have been proposed, is

Mentoring is a process for the informal transmission of knowledge, social capital, and the psychosocial support perceived by the recipient as relevant to work, career, or professional development; mentoring entails informal communication, usually face-to-face and during a sustained period of time, between a person who is perceived to have greater relevant knowledge, wisdom, or experience (the mentor) and a person who is perceived to have less (the protégé)".[1]

[JRS]

1-In person? The best!
2-I will not feel this is safe until the Fools in the Cabal stand down or are removed permanently.
3-Big Hug and maybe a whisker rub (raising vibrations).
4-What took you so long?! Do you understand the density and the control mechanisms in place on Earth and this system? Are you really ready to expose yourselves to this?
5-I could use some help to raise my vibratory level which is extremely low today because my daughte'rs puppy was run over and killed near my house today. Are you really sure you understand the density and negativity here?
More important to me is that you help victims such as Duncan O'Finian to find peace.

[DreamsInDigital]

Perhaps you should choose a better word then... 'Mentorship' does not indicate an exchange between equals, but a student/teacher relationship.
:) I think this is a matter of perspective.

Believe me, i take this very seriously indeed... Obviously our ideas on the subject do not mesh, but that does not make either of our opinions invalid.
I agree, and I wasn't emplying you were one of them. I thought it would be very obvious the ones I was ;) I am not sure how our ideas don't mesh so much though? Maybe I missed something.

Presumably you posted this to have input from other perspectives? Don't get upset then if everybody doesn't agree with your perspective.
Ofcourse, But I don't think I was getting upset. Just replying to a post :) I am how ever bothered slightly by the lack of seriousness and respect this subject is given specially as we approach 2012. I would like to think by now we all would have been more mature about this.

[markpierre]

@ Markpierre
I am being serious with these questions and my intent on developing a project that I am currently working on. It seems it's just been a few of the people that have replied to the original post that aren't taking this seriously. Thankyou for your response. :) The end result is the idea to make contact safe and easier for everyone involved.

DreamsInDigital, the word 'mentorship' does not allow for a meeting of equals.
When each part of the equation is contributing to the other, then the mentorship effort is very much a meeting of equals.

@ Mojo,
Yes, I just wanted to clarify it for some that might have been not fully paying attention to the separation between what is going on here, and what you were talking about. In regards to the other person's project.


My apologies DreamsInDigital,

But I did answer the questions posed seriously, as they were posed. I'm not questioning your seriousness either, but I can guarantee that it's not going to occur the way that you're imagining it.
That's not meant to discourage you or disrupt your thread. Maybe take all of the responses you get as serious and allow the box to expand a little.
You may need the 'off worlders' to help you organize it. I'm sure they'd have appropriate suggestions.

I sincerely wish you well with your project.

Cheers

[DreamsInDigital]

I am planning on working on this with them. And having their input all along the way. There are many layers to the project. This is only one small tiny piece. But, it's important first to get the perspective of the Terrans.

[WhiteFeather]

The only mentoring or assistance from the Benevolent's I would ask is that they assist/help us to rid the ongoing suppression of free energy advancements and suppression of ADVANCED MEDICAL CURES. THIS would be a GREAT Kick START for us Terrans. And After this is achieved, we can then move forward as a race in the right direction I'm sure. And it would also be nice if the benevolent's could assist us in rounding up all the bad seeds, the many corrupted politicians, lobbyists etc. and discard these P/O/Shyte on their very own individual and isolated suppressed planet where they all belong together as a collective pile of Horse Manure.

[SaiphStar]

The kids are exhausted and my beautiful wife is asleep this Christmas evening so what better way to spend it than reading up on all the latest threads. This was a fun one to answer.

1.) What would it be like for you to be mentored by several benevolent extraterrestrial races? What would that be like?

It's the ultimate gift. Having that awareness and awakening of not just who and what we are at the soul level but also to be accepted worthy of this information is quite extraordinary. For the teachers it may be somewhat frustrating. To have benevolent extraterrestrial races with thousands, perhaps billions of years of evolution beyond ours isn't even comparable to mankind teaching a monkey algebra. I can imagine my most common thought projection / communication would be 'please be patient with me'.

2.) What would we need to do to establish, not only that communication, but at the same time have us feel safe, with checks and balances, so that they could walk their talk and we have to walk our talk?

If benevolent extraterrestrial races have thousands of years of evolution beyond ours, I would say the only thing we have to fear is ourselves. We have shown over many centuries that as a species we're incapable of living in peace, tolerating beliefs that are different to our own and providing a world where we can naturally evolve. We're no better as a species than where we were thousands of years ago, we just have more efficient means to destroy each other. We first need to show benevolent extraterrestrial races that we're ready to evolve, we're ready to reach a new spiritual level of intellect. Before we can feel safe that we're ready to have this mentoring we must drop all our prejudices between each other. At the point we are today we'd use their mentoring to forge an advantage on this planet. We would not use it for the good of mankind. So to ensure we have all the checks and balances in place, we must at first learn to live in peace on this planet. All races, all cultures void of religion and control must come together, hold hands and be ready to accept leadership and guidance from enlightened and evolved species. Is it possible? No, not without some outside influence. We're not going to get there on our own.

3.) If you were to meet a Benevolent Off Worlder, maybe be approached by one or see one walking around. How would you react?

I would feel humbled to be approached and in communication with a benevolent being or group of beings. I'd like to think my reaction would be to ask them to help us. Don't let us do this on our own. We were all children once and needed guidance into adulthood. Humans are living in adolescence and we need our wiser brothers and sisters from the stars to show us the way. If we're left to do it on our own, the bullies will continue to rule the playground. My second reaction would be to ask them what I can do to support our transition. The late Ronald Reagan almost hit the mark when he mentioned how quickly our worldwide differences would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. I'd like to think the same would apply if we were facing an opportunity to be mentored by an alien race. How quickly our differences would become meaningless. Yes, there will be turmoil and we'd be in for some tough times as those that won't be able to accept this guidance will continue to bicker and cause havoc but it's a small price to pay for the good of our species.

4.) What would be some of the first questions you would ask them?

I'd want to understand their history and how it relates to our past timeline. My immediate questions / reactions would be related to my answer in question 3. I'd also ask 'Why are they here?'. There would have to be a good reason. It has to be close to the bottom of the intergalactic tourism chart after all :)

5.) How can they help you personally? (and, I mean without consideration of financial or material objects/contributions)

They'd open our eyes to everything; Our true history! Who were our creators! What is our purpose! What is beyond this reality / life! Who our brothers and sisters in the universe are! It has to be spiritual growth and understanding.

I only read the first message to this thread as I didn't want to have my responses influenced so I am now looking forward to reading answers from everybody else.

Warmest wishes to everyone,
SaiphStar

[Anchor]

Perhaps you should look for a better word then... 'Mentorship' does not indicate an exchange between equals, but a student/teacher relationship.

I'd like to pick up on this point. I think that "Benevolent" ET would be honored and humbled to "mentor" incarnated humans. There is no doubt in my mind that we are not seen as "less than" them, in fact somewhat the opposite.

Regardless, in any student teacher dynamic there is always learning by both parties.

That common ground happens because as we teach we learn, and as we learn we teach. We are equal. Its an honour to teach and an honour to learn.

The ET I have read of, (the nice ones) are in awe of the power and fortitude of our souls - in awe that we can take incarnation is such a heavily distorted "reality" and learn such hard lessons and basically undertake one of the harder crash courses in experience available in creation!

Its not big headed of us to face up to this and what we are. Once you start to get past the veil of confusion and get the glimpses of memory/awareness of who and what you really are back, it gets a bit clearer.

Perhaps the wanderers among us have it a bit easier - but I think that counts for a huge proportion of this forum's membership anyway. Then when you have started to wake up - you will be the one honoured to do some mentoring of those that still need some assistance and have the good fortune to realise that they need some help and ask for it.

(This is, of course, only my opinion.)

[Billy]

My feeling is that most people have been brainwashed into believing that because e.t.s are from the 4th dimension, and therefore have more advanced technology, they are in a position to give advice to the average human. This illusion is exacerbated by the veil of ignorance we chose to experience here in physical bodies in order to expand our feeling continuum. To feel is to create and the broader your feeling experiences the better creator you become. Remember that technology is a crutch and ultimately a trap.

What we fail to take into account is the fact that all souls arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions and gradually moved down through each dimensional experience to where they are now. In other words, we have more experience than most e.t.s because we are experiencing the highest compression (testing) possible in 3rd dimension. Although that pressure is overall accelerating, as most of us can readily attest to, ( life is becoming harder and we are tiring) it waxes and wanes literally with the moon which is exerting compression while we are vigorously expanding our feeling consciousness. We are advancing beyond the need for technology by connecting our ego to the heart centre rather than the mind. This can be said in many ways. But basically we are the first graduating class and those e.t.s who are not jealous of us are actually in awe and respect for what we have made of ourselves.

Expanding consciousness is not of the mind. It is of the heart. We are the masters and very few of us are irresponsible creators. There is an illusion being propagated by an off-world group that we are irresponsible. But many are seeing through that illusion and we do not need e.t. races to explain that to us. It is not that many years ago when it was unheard of to look inward for truth. Now it is second nature. We feel the truth immediately because it resonates with whom we are which goes beyond linear, intellectual analysis. The heart is much wiser than the mind.

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Well said Herbert. This resonates to what my personal experience and research has concluded. When we do eventually connect with our universal family it will be just like a reunion of family members. The only difference being is that our universal family would have the memory of previous incarnations with many of us humans on other off world planets. where so far in the human experience of the density of this dimension the majority of us still do not have the gift of remembering our previous incarnations on this earth or other planets.

When the time comes for us all to have full memory I believe humanity will be amazed and surprised at how much " WE " will be sharing our experiences with many off word planets and other universal civilizations, maybe even mentoring those civilizations on how to achieve a higher level of vibrational light through our experiences in this density of positive and negative polarities with the gift of free will and choices. As i believe this has never before been achieved on any other planet and we are the forerunners in this new and wonderful timeline we are now entering.

This is my own personal perception.

Peace

[kcbc2010]

I get the impression that we would have a lot to learn from each other. They will be wondering how we could have stayed in the dark for such a long time and I know I will be curious about them.

I just don't think we can know how we are going to act in the future. I can my assumptions based on my general character, but ultimately, I don't live in a vacuum. My opinions and attitudes are shaped by others, regardless if I want them to be or not.

[Lifebringer]

I would like to sit and meet with them for a "truth convention" to reveal all the hidden of this material world. The origins of the "word" we are to live by and the uplifting message that this too is destined for us and there is much good and happiness coming for us to look forward to in the near future.

I would like to be able to be accepted for my color by other beings, even if not accepted here. I would like to learn more of their worlds they come from and help them to clean the oceans, forest lands and agricultural areas for healthy foods to be grown again.
I would like to one day ride in their vehicles and see the grand and wonderful earth from above and the universes beyond. I would want to be of some helpful capacity that makes a difference for the good of life here and in other worlds. I had once wanted to be a surgeon to correct injury. I never had that opportunity, because I lost a parent and couldn't afford for me to go. Now if the lessons of knowledge are made available to all who want to help in those departments, i would welcome any and all provided, to be of better service to all.

I would ask if perhaps in friendship, I could learn their ancient and universal language, to communicate, as mine was lost during the "slave trade/trail of tears" of my ancestors.
I would welcome them with as much love as they offered us and equally as much respect.

[minkton]

Here is something we need to start thinking about and talking about. The eventuality of us as a race being mentored by Off Worlders. I'll pose some questions that were put out to a group of people before, and I would like everyone to answer them thoroughly as possible. Open mentorship is our destiny. It’s going to happen anyway, but we cannot wait for the rest of the world to turn itself around.

1.) What would it be like for you to be mentored by several benevolent extraterrestrial races? What would that be like?

Challenging. A privelege.

2.) What would we need to do to establish, not only that communication, but at the same time have us feel safe, with checks and balances, so that they could walk their talk and we have to walk our talk?

That our ways that we value are respected.

3.) If you were to meet a Benevolent Off Worlder, maybe be approached by one or see one walking around. How would you react?

Excitement.
4.) What would be some of the first questions you would ask them?

What are you hoping to achieve here?
5.) How can they help you personally? (and, I mean without consideration of financial or material objects/contributions)

That would depend on who they are and what they would be mentoring 'about'.
Ok, I'm going to leave it at this for now.

Interesting questions.

[spiritguide]

@ DreamsInDigital, Have you researched the Wingmaker material? Their web sight has an educational program and massive information on this subject matter. If you truly are objectively trying to put a program together you will accept any information inputted to you. I suggest you read the dialogs. Questions are paths to further understanding. Also Bill and Kerry have an interview with the founder of the wingmaker material buried in their archives for further reference. I hope your journey turns out well.

:peace:

[lelmaleh]

This is my first post here, I would be very excited to meet them but I do think that it would be a meeting of equals. However due to us living in such a difficult dimension we would likely benefit from having our higher abilities reawakened hopefully with their help. I've noticed that when I'm surrounded by people that live closely with spirit then I also feel closer. I imagine that this would happen when surrounded by beings from a lighter dimension. But I feel that we have a lot to offer from all that we have experienced so I do feel it would be a mutual exchange. To me it sounds inspiring and exhilarating and it would be of mutual benefit. I don't think arrogance or dominance is a factor because by definition, to me, they would be of lower understanding if that is their attitude.

[DreamsInDigital]

welcome to Avalon, I think also we can on our own awaken our higher senses. They in a sense are like muscles, the more you use them the stronger they get. What book helped me and I highly recommend it for everyone interested. "Heaven and Earth: Making The Psychic Connection." by James Van Praagh. It really helped me a lot. I hope you enjoy your stay here, and thanks for your reply to my thread.

Definitely working to develop our higher senses, is very important. Specially anything attributed to telepathic or empathic senses. As, most of the races are known to uses Telepathy as their form of communication. We are all born with these abilities, it's just up to us to develop them and use them.

[Kristo]

Herbert, I'm so glad you posted this. I broached this concept in one of my first posts in another thread and was 'skewered' by other PA members.

In my world, this is a common 'given' where we were birthed into an all-loving dimension (12D for example) and as we grew curious and sought knowledge 'evolved' to the 11th Dimension, etc. etc. It never made sense that Source would throw newbie, unevolved innocent souls to the harshest, densist environment and say 'Good Luck!'....

If our Earth grades were numbered as such (Kindergarten called '12th Grade' then we graduate to a more difficult level '11th Grade', finally graduating at 1st grade, then aware humans would be able to wrap their minds around the concept. It only makes sense from a fundamental standpoint....




I’ve never written anything this long before and I apologize to those who prefer short and concise as well as to those who are obsessed with “Disclosure”.

My feeling is that most people have been brainwashed into believing that because e.t.s are from the 4th dimension, and therefore have more advanced technology, they are in a position to give advice to the average human. This illusion is exacerbated by the veil of ignorance we chose to experience here in physical bodies in order to expand our feeling continuum. To feel is to create and the broader your feeling experiences the better creator you become. Remember that technology is a crutch and ultimately a trap.

What we fail to take into account is the fact that all souls arrived in this universe at the highest dimensions and gradually moved down through each dimensional experience to where they are now. In other words, we have more experience than most e.t.s because we are experiencing the highest compression (testing) possible in 3rd dimension. Although that pressure is overall accelerating, as most of us can readily attest to, ( life is becoming harder and we are tiring) it waxes and wanes literally with the moon which is exerting compression while we are vigorously expanding our feeling consciousness. We are advancing beyond the need for technology by connecting our ego to the heart centre rather than the mind. This can be said in many ways. But basically we are the first graduating class and those e.t.s who are not jealous of us are actually in awe and respect for what we have made of ourselves.

Expanding consciousness is not of the mind. It is of the heart. We are the masters and very few of us are irresponsible creators. There is an illusion being propagated by an off-world group that we are irresponsible. But many are seeing through that illusion and we do not need e.t. races to explain that to us. It is not that many years ago when it was unheard of to look inward for truth. Now it is second nature. We feel the truth immediately because it resonates with whom we are which goes beyond linear, intellectual analysis. The heart is much wiser than the mind.

In answer to your basic question I would greet them as I would any stranger – with warmth and humour. And if they were from Sirius I would already know them, taking up where we left off. Do they have something to teach us? As a group of explorers who has been everywhere and done everything – including blowing up our own planet – probably not.

George Kavassilas interviews on youtube are a good primer on my perspective if anyone hasn’t already seen them. Yes he has a contrary view to the human experience of tediously slow progression and having to fight every step of the way, but when something happens in this Universe that has never happened before, surely it goes beyond human experience as we have known it . . .

Thank you for the questions Dreamsindigital. It does help to explore ones own feelings and Avalon along with this question provide a great vehicle for that.


That all being said, my own Guides have said to be wary of those still incarnating into a body at this point.... that they are still learning and evolving as we are and do not have all the answers that we seek.

When entities evolve past the point of incarnating into a body, they are evolved to a point where they hold knowledge we do not currently have access to due to the 'veil' of 3D

Due to this concept of us 'Evolving' to the 3D our Guides, ETs in 'higher dimensions' see it as irony we are asking THEM for advice since we have already been-there-done-that and we are their Gurus... We are simply swimming in such a heavy dimension we are behind the veil of forgetfullness and cannot remember all of our Spritual Gifts and Truths. We are their gurus for being brave enough to be here... now....

[BestLion]

1.) What would it be like for you to be mentored by several benevolent extraterrestrial races? What would that be like?
I think their are many races of Ets...from fairies to elves to Annunaki. So I suppose this is a big question in itself..depends whom one encounters.


2.) What would we need to do to establish, not only that communication, but at the same time have us feel safe, with checks and balances, so that they could walk their talk and we have to walk our talk?
I think most communication with Ets or other beings is done via other dimensions. This is what history and lore tell us. Read Graham Hancocks book the Supernatural about this stuff.


3.) If you were to meet a Benevolent Off Worlder, maybe be approached by one or see one walking around. How would you react?
I think it is more likely to encounter one of these being in an altered state of conscience then in real 3rd dimensional reality. But lets say I did see one..and knew it was an alien..Well the human nature has in its DNA, fear reactions, and phobias..so I think all humans at first would have a bit of a fear reaction..


4.) What would be some of the first questions you would ask them?
I think the age old question..Who are we, and where did we come from! Are all human races made the same? I would want to know about the history of my people. Those would be my 1st questions.


5.) How can they help you personally? (and, I mean without consideration of financial or material objects/contributions)
I think the key for me is not the material. We often think the material because this is the age we live in now on earth. I would look for more spiritual wisdom, and how I can use my brain to the fullest capacity.