A Horse

[Chester]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

So when the horse walks away?

Follow your brother with the trough.

If he still don't drink?

Poor it on his head.

And if he refuses to drink what soon will be the last drop before the trough is dry?

Get right in his face and tell him to drink.

And if he still won't

Drop the empty trough onto his head from 33,000 feet with one of those B-1s

ancient texas proverb

[Anchor]

One of the tough things we learn is freewill. Your brother has freewill to walk away from the trough, even if you know its the only water for miles around. The lessons go on in this manner endlessly.

In the end, love triumphs.

Even if you have to die a few times first.

[TelosianEmbrace]

I agree with Anchor. We must learn to honour each other's free will. Over the centuries we have been made to conform to other people's perceptions of what is right and what is wrong. We have been made to do things we don't want to do. During this transition phase it is up to us to live and let live, to honour the choices of those who don't necessarily want to make the change with us.

Perhaps, just perhaps, the horse, with its finer senses, has sniffed that the watering hole has been poisoned. Do not be so quick as to judge what is right or wrong for another according to your thoughts and beliefs. Don't judge a horse until you have trotted a league in his shoes.

Oh, and not everything/everyone that comes out of Texas is the sharpest tool on the shelf.;)

[Chester]

I agree with Anchor. We must learn to honour each other's free will. Over the centuries we have been made to conform to other people's perceptions of what is right and what is wrong. We have been made to do things we don't want to do. During this transition phase it is up to us to live and let live, to honour the choices of those who don't necessarily want to make the change with us.

Perhaps, just perhaps, the horse, with its finer senses, has sniffed that the watering hole has been poisoned. Do not be so quick as to judge what is right or wrong for another according to your thoughts and beliefs. Don't judge a horse until you have trotted a league in his shoes.

Oh, and not everything/everyone that comes out of Texas is the sharpest tool on the shelf.;)

I guess this is right. I guess the satanists that sacrifice animals and humans to their gods are free willed beings who should continue on as I do not recall ever partaking of that practice in this life nor any other.

I never tried heroin either (at least not in this life).

And so I will leave the issue alone from now on. It's their business and their victim's business. And it's my children's problem the world they inherit.

I do not say this cynically.

These are my last words on this forum related to satanic practices on this planet at this time... seems no one else is interested in solution anyway OR it might be an imposition upon someone else's free will. I get it now... reluctantly, but I get it.

justoneman

[Beren]

Don`t worry , justice is coming.
;)

[Chester]

Don`t worry , justice is coming.
;)

when they show (the justice givers), count me on the team... if they don't show they still have to deal with me.


EDIT: Oooops already broke my promise of silence - old habits are hard to break.

[9eagle9]

A horse will drink when it gets thirsty.

Running after a horse with a trough of water won't work because...

A horse can run faster.

You can't carry that trough.

Horses that are thirsty but refuse to drink are annoying because they complain constantly about being thirsty but won't do anything about even if the trough magically levitates and thrusts itself under its nose.

You can't make a horse do anything if it doesn't trust you.

If you want to get a horse's cooperation one must be first in a concept called resistance. If a horse is lying down and won't get up pulling on it won't help. Pushing it will. If you want a horse to move to the right use your left leg. If you want a horse to follow you make sure you don't stand in front of it. A horse that is led still won't follow unless it can see you.

If you want a horse's attention, ignore it.

[Tane Mahuta]

16917

Trade the horse in on a new 4 x 4. modify the vehicle to run on water...problem solved. Dollar not worth anything!!

nuff said

TM

[Mulder]

I think we have to "let go" of our expectations of other people. Let them choose to drink, or not to. Try to be the "butterfly" that returns to their shoulder when they are calm again & not expecting it. There's really no other choice as if they say "NO", there's no way to force them.

[Knowrainknowrainbows!]

http://www.eagala.org/

The above link is an organization called EAGALA - It is essentially equine-assisted psychotherapy. I attended a seminar recently and was amazed to learn why horses are preferred in many cases over other animals. Horses are not predators ... but they are big so they can be intimidating. Additionally they have keen awareness and sharp senses so they can avoid becoming prey.

This therapy does not involve riding by the individual (or groups as even businesses use the experience for team building and insight into personality types, etc.). Instead the horses are utilized as a "partner" for a task. And, in addition to being the patner they are a mirror for the individual ... a filtered mirror that helps people develop insight and understanding about the way they "manage" their relationships and life in general.

During a session there are 2 therapists (specially trained). One therapist watches the horse/horses (interprets behavior) while another interacts and watches the individual(s) after they are given a task to do ... ex., have the horse stand in the back left corner. How an individual goes about "asking"/leading the horse and what response he/she has to the horse as the horse respods to the individual is all part of the exercise and therapy.

I hope the link works... It's a valuable alternative therapeutic model. (Animal-lover bias admitted) ;)

KRKR

[9eagle9]

I completely understand that. As a riding instructor my function is only to interpret the body language between the horse and the rider if the rider's body and energy is not telling me enough by observation, the horse will tell me. Horses are equally good at saying NO as yes.

My mare has a habit of not doing what she is asked today because the rider is unbalanced. People think this is 'nice' of her but she is simply not going to do something that makes her unbalanced. They do learn to check their posture though when she doesn't do as they ask. As soon as they do she moves on then starts rebelling again when they come unbalanced. Her habit of throwing her giant butt in your face (no concept of personal space) frightens people when she is basically asking people to please scratch her butt. You can hear her broadcasting a mile away "Here's my butt! Scratch me!"

One of the misconceptions concerning a horse is that a horse will take advantage of one's fright. In actuality you are transmitting your own fright to them. If one is afraid to ride at a jump, the horse is like "Uhm hello, if YOU"RE afraid I have no vested interest in riding into something that YOU are afraid of." That is state of emotional imbalance as much as the physical imbalance. Then all these unmanageable behaviors start cropping up where the rider feels taken advantage of but its really the horse saying' Hell no I ain't willing to compensate for YOUR fear."

One learns to be comfortable with discomfort, comfortable with fear, and reclaiming their self authority. A horse doesn't mind telling you when you have no self authority.
ery much in the present. You change out a rider who isn't afraid of certain task and the horse falls right into alignment with it.

Horses are HUGELY informative teachers. Observing them in a herd and how they interact with each other is hugely enlightening as well.

Healing horses is way easier than working with humans. They have no vested interest in hanging on to their ****. Humans get something out of playing the victim horses don't, they are well aware of what it means to be a prey animal and avoid being a victim.