Warning to U.S. and Europe

[GlassSteagallfan]

Rogozin Warns U.S. and Europe

December 28, 2011 • 10:53PM

This article is the script to a video which can be watched here:
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20958

Last month, Dmitry Rogozin, then Russian ambassador to NATO, who just recently was promoted to deputy Prime Minister by President Medvedev, delivered an incredibly clear warning to the United States and other western nations, that the current strategy behind British out fits like NATO, is to pit the nations of Europe, the United States and Russia against one another, nations who, if allied, could instead overwhelm and end the reign of the British imperial system which plagues the planet today. Those remarks were published earlier this week, simultaneous with Rogozin accepting even greater responsibilities in an evolving Russian government.

During remarks to officers of Russia’s Aerospace Forces, Rogozin ripped into NATO’s outdated strategy saying, “No matter what Russia may be—imperial, communist or democratic- they see us with the same eyes as they did in the previous centuries.” and that, “NATO continues to live by the principles set down by NATO Secretary [British] General Lord Ismay”: ‘America in, Germany under and Russia outside.’”

But Rogozin’s remarks regarding recent missile deployment agreements between the United States and several smaller European countries, including Romania, were by far the most clear. Rogozin warned, “They do not understand that NATO, the European allies of America, are nothing but a shield and a lamb to slaughter. . . We have scrutinized the agreement the Americans have signed with the Romanians. . . The Romanians may think they are important interception missile operators, but even the base commander, a Romanian serviceman, has the right to enter only the lobby." and that the Europeans have become "hostages and targets of a retaliation attack."

These remarks from Rogozin, and the deadly serious war avoidance measures taken by the Russians shortly after Lyndon LaRouche first issued the warning in late October that Libya, Iran and Syria are being used as proxies for a confrontation between Russia and China on the one side, and a British run United States on the other, ought to be seen, at this hour, as one of our last chances to free the United States from being brought into a world war in which we would be the cannon fodder for a bankrupt British imperial system whose intention is level those nations, particularly Russia and China, whom they deem as their ‘adversaries.’

Serious patriots recognize that world war today, given the thermonuclear capabilities of the major powers of the planet, guarantees the destruction of the majority of the planet’s population and therefore serves only the interests of those forces whose stated intention it is to reduce the world’s population, and not the interests of any nation today, regardless of their political disagreements.

In October, Rogozin, in an effort to establish a long term war avoidance strategy as then Russian envoy to NATO, proposed a joint, high level Planetary Defense system between the United States and Russia which not only included ground missile defense systems, but also suggested that the two nations collaborate in the arena of planetary defense, monitoring and protecting the planet from asteroids, comets and other threats from space which are equally if not more dangerous to the planet than the respective nations’ thermonuclear capabilities.

Therefore, it is important, in this context to recognize a subtle but significant shift that has occurred among some of the American public in response to the unconstitutional coup Obama is running which is dragging the United States into world war three. Two indicators stand out most prominently. The first is the lead that anti-war Presidential candidate Ron Paul is taking in the GOP primaries. With the Iowa primary right around the corner, Paul, who has waged a fairly serious campaign, targeting Obama by name for defying the US constitution and consolidating a virtual dictatorship, is coming out on top in many of the preliminary polls for the GOP presidential nominee. Were Paul to be nominated, LaRouche recently remarked, this would throw a huge wrench into the plans of the British war hawks.

A second serious indication of a shift in the American public is their response to the international mobilization LaRouche PAC began two weeks ago which has drawn an unprecedented reaction from the American people during what is supposed to be a holiday season. In fact, the response to our moblization throughout the holidays has largely been a grateful one from the American people, particularly because given the slate of GOP candidates, what we are doing in the United States is recognized as the most effective opposition to Obama. Demonstrating that where there is leadership the United States has a much greater potential as a nation than under the British steered puppet Barack Obama. Therefore, our mobilization continues with more at stake than ever been before, which the words of the Russian deputy Prime Minister make very clear: either we must all hang together or we shall most assuredly all hang separately.

Source: http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20977

[Lancelot]

Well I've heard it all now'...

'The british outfit NATO'
'The British imperial system which plagues the planet today'
'The British war hawks'

ahh...So its been the British bullying the US into doing naughty things all these years then. Poor Old Uncle Sam -he was only doing what his master told him...

This report is warmongering at its finest. Shame on them.

We (the good people of the world) will not be divided

Peace to all

[Jenci]

Well if we consider that the PTB operate to a large extent out of the City of London, maybe they have a point - and British and British imperial system is not referring to what we would call the British government.
Jeanette

[Adam Greenland]

I gave up on LaRouche's predictions after he claimed in no uncertain terms that Hillary would be president.

[Lancelot]

Well if we consider that the PTB operate to a large extent out of the City of London, maybe they have a point - and British and British imperial system is not referring to what we would call the British government.
Jeanette

I don't agree that the US is run by the city of London. The PTB's are different in both countries and are viscous rivals but work together.
The British imperial system is a system of weights and measures and should certainly not be blamed for plaguing the planet. :confused:

[jcocks]

Well if we consider that the PTB operate to a large extent out of the City of London, maybe they have a point - and British and British imperial system is not referring to what we would call the British government.
Jeanette

I don't agree that the US is run by the city of London. The PTB's are different in both countries and are viscous rivals but work together.
The British imperial system is a system of weights and measures and should certainly not be blamed for plaguing the planet. :confused:

I think you'll find that the same people behind the City Of London, are also behind wall st etc... They span the globe, they're no longer limited to their own respective countries. They're even so bigheaded as to think they can control space. I wish to hell that we could get some real help to topple those bastards. Yes we can fight them ourselves, and yes we must show the initiative to do so before we can be helped, but to think we can TOPPLE them ourselves is perhaps a little too much.

Who really *knows* just how far their power extends? How powerful their allies are? It is time we had (and were made aware of) so powerful allies, who are willing and able to help us topple these megalomaniacs before things get too much worse. It doesn't have to, I truly believe that. But it's unfair to expect us to do it all ourselves when they've (purportedly) got so much help on their end (and no, I'm not saying they should do it for us.)

[DreamsInDigital]

Well if we consider that the PTB operate to a large extent out of the City of London, maybe they have a point - and British and British imperial system is not referring to what we would call the British government.
Jeanette
Exactly, and people wonder why the largest concentration of genuine non-man made Crop Circles are in England. Hmmm...the central hub of the Global Elite is London, you're so right.

[Jenci]

Well if we consider that the PTB operate to a large extent out of the City of London, maybe they have a point - and British and British imperial system is not referring to what we would call the British government.
Jeanette

I don't agree that the US is run by the city of London. The PTB's are different in both countries and are viscous rivals but work together.
The British imperial system is a system of weights and measures and should certainly not be blamed for plaguing the planet. :confused:

Hi Lancelot,

I think he is referring to the fact that there is a system where people who believe that they have a divine sovereign right to rule over us exists, despite the fact we publicly see it very differently.

There's a lot of research in the alternative media which points to the very top of the pyramid having its base in London and that the PTB are not different in the US and the UK - it's the same people controlling both sides.

David Icke talks a little about this in this video. The first 15 minutes or so is about the City of London - the rest of the video is about Tavistock, MK Ultra mind control, Joseph Mengele, satanic rituals and reptilians in an interview with Arizona Wilder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0EzmI-pj9E


Jeanette

[Ixopoborn]

Well I've heard it all now'...

'The british outfit NATO'
'The British imperial system which plagues the planet today'
'The British war hawks'

ahh...So its been the British bullying the US into doing naughty things all these years then. Poor Old Uncle Sam -he was only doing what his master told him...

This report is warmongering at its finest. Shame on them.

We (the good people of the world) will not be divided

Peace to all

Firstly, it is my belief that Larouche is a very good source of intelligence information. His record is very good indeed.

I encourage all not to get too strung out by Larouche's frequent references to British imperialistic control. For Imperialistic, read Rothschild et al.

Just as it is incorrect to conclude America is in charge of itself, so it is wrong to conclude that because world control orders emanate from the City of London, that it is the Brits doing it! It is not.

London is merely a convenient operations centre for the "controllers" who largely don't hold allegiances to any nation state, imperialistic or not.

[Lancelot]

dreamsindigital,
I and many others in this community have always wondered why the largest concentration of genuine Crop Circles are in England and indeed what their purpose is. Perhaps you can share your knowledge of the link between 'global elites' and crop circles?
Are they also responsible for the ley lines, dolmens, standing stones, avebury and stonehenge monuments??

The fact is nobody apart from themselves knows who these 'global elite' are or where they are based or even what their intentions and affiliations are so it does seem pointless quoting points as 'facts' without any evidence.

[DreamsInDigital]

You know this whole "No body knows anything" attitude is ridiculous. There really are quite A LOT of us that know what is going on or at least a good portion of it, and to assume anything less is a very disrespectful arrogant and uninformed assumption and you know what they say about assuming things.

And, seriously it's rather short sighted and ignorant to think only the Global Elite know who The Global Elite are. Hell, I'm not even ASSOCIATED with The Global Elite, and I know who the majority of them are..and so do the Off Worlders/Aliens. And a huge portion of the world, just look at the stuff Benjamin Fulford writes.

For someone to understand the nature of those crop circles, the real non-man made ones. Requires understanding among other things Sacred Geometry, and communication methods of Off Worlder races and their purpose, etc.

The short answer which is all I'm giving here is. The Majority of them were/are a message to the Cabal and Regressive Type Aliens from The Benevolent Forces. There are many more layers to it, but that's all I'm saying.

There is so much more going on here...on this planet and out there in our solar system than most are consciously aware of. That doesn't mean the rest of us aren't though.

[Kindred]

I gave up on LaRouche's predictions after he claimed in no uncertain terms that Hillary would be president.

If you look into some aspects of the American power structure, it has been noted that the Secretary of State (H. Clinton) has more power than the president... I suspect this was the 'plan'. Have a puppet as 'Commander in Chief', but have the 'real power' Appear as only a 'Secretary'. Disinformation at Every Level.

In Unity and Peace

[BlueGem]

people are generally a lot more informed than they let on. sometimes, because of the everyday distractions of life, we simply don't have time to get passed small talk. plus there seems to be more layers to everything than one can imagine, so for the moment all I'm doing is research. It seems strange to contribute to something when I don't know the full story.

[Siberia9]

It seems to me that there are some that are not sure about a few things. Like the fact that there are three city states that the secret cabal operates out of. Also just to firm up whats going on, there are about thirteen Family Bloodlines that own ALL of the largest corporations. All of the Western leaders and Royals are related to these people. They are using the Vatican Bank inside one of the City States, by using an organization called Legatus to funnel billions of Dollars (and other currencys and metals) a year tax free into. This is very real and is what the Deputy Prime Minister is fully aware of when he is speaking. This video speaks of the city states here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVSz3IynjAA

[BlueGem]

it's not difficult to see how badly we are being screwed over, even on the level of having our basic rights taken from us slowly but surely. Each level of authority is being controlled by a higher one, and admittedly I learn a lot more every time I come here. I know lots of people who aren't even aware of how this recession started in the first place, or people who can't understand politics/economics. That's fine, some people are just not interested and i understand that in order for society to function, these people need to be in place (as cold as that sounds).

I have been laughed at for trying to help people understand because they simply can't grasp the situation, or are at least very misguided and obviously programmed into feeling fear. So there I am, trying to slowly infiltrate awareness into people I know, but some people are just not ready. Some of the same people are taking advantage of the benefits system in the UK, and so are effectively turning to their government for help, even though it was that government that got them into the situation they're in. They honestly don't see a problem with that. It's a bit depressing at times. BUT, when the time comes hopefully they will begin to understand.

[norman]

BUMP . . . and then some




Rogozin Warns U.S. and Europe

December 28, 2011 • 10:53PM

This article is the script to a video which can be watched here:
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20958

Last month, Dmitry Rogozin, then Russian ambassador to NATO, who just recently was promoted to deputy Prime Minister by President Medvedev, delivered an incredibly clear warning to the United States and other western nations, that the current strategy behind British out fits like NATO, is to pit the nations of Europe, the United States and Russia against one another, nations who, if allied, could instead overwhelm and end the reign of the British imperial system which plagues the planet today. Those remarks were published earlier this week, simultaneous with Rogozin accepting even greater responsibilities in an evolving Russian government.

During remarks to officers of Russia’s Aerospace Forces, Rogozin ripped into NATO’s outdated strategy saying, “No matter what Russia may be—imperial, communist or democratic- they see us with the same eyes as they did in the previous centuries.” and that, “NATO continues to live by the principles set down by NATO Secretary [British] General Lord Ismay”: ‘America in, Germany under and Russia outside.’”

But Rogozin’s remarks regarding recent missile deployment agreements between the United States and several smaller European countries, including Romania, were by far the most clear. Rogozin warned, “They do not understand that NATO, the European allies of America, are nothing but a shield and a lamb to slaughter. . . We have scrutinized the agreement the Americans have signed with the Romanians. . . The Romanians may think they are important interception missile operators, but even the base commander, a Romanian serviceman, has the right to enter only the lobby." and that the Europeans have become "hostages and targets of a retaliation attack."

These remarks from Rogozin, and the deadly serious war avoidance measures taken by the Russians shortly after Lyndon LaRouche first issued the warning in late October that Libya, Iran and Syria are being used as proxies for a confrontation between Russia and China on the one side, and a British run United States on the other, ought to be seen, at this hour, as one of our last chances to free the United States from being brought into a world war in which we would be the cannon fodder for a bankrupt British imperial system whose intention is level those nations, particularly Russia and China, whom they deem as their ‘adversaries.’

Serious patriots recognize that world war today, given the thermonuclear capabilities of the major powers of the planet, guarantees the destruction of the majority of the planet’s population and therefore serves only the interests of those forces whose stated intention it is to reduce the world’s population, and not the interests of any nation today, regardless of their political disagreements.

In October, Rogozin, in an effort to establish a long term war avoidance strategy as then Russian envoy to NATO, proposed a joint, high level Planetary Defense system between the United States and Russia which not only included ground missile defense systems, but also suggested that the two nations collaborate in the arena of planetary defense, monitoring and protecting the planet from asteroids, comets and other threats from space which are equally if not more dangerous to the planet than the respective nations’ thermonuclear capabilities.

Therefore, it is important, in this context to recognize a subtle but significant shift that has occurred among some of the American public in response to the unconstitutional coup Obama is running which is dragging the United States into world war three. Two indicators stand out most prominently. The first is the lead that anti-war Presidential candidate Ron Paul is taking in the GOP primaries. With the Iowa primary right around the corner, Paul, who has waged a fairly serious campaign, targeting Obama by name for defying the US constitution and consolidating a virtual dictatorship, is coming out on top in many of the preliminary polls for the GOP presidential nominee. Were Paul to be nominated, LaRouche recently remarked, this would throw a huge wrench into the plans of the British war hawks.

A second serious indication of a shift in the American public is their response to the international mobilization LaRouche PAC began two weeks ago which has drawn an unprecedented reaction from the American people during what is supposed to be a holiday season. In fact, the response to our moblization throughout the holidays has largely been a grateful one from the American people, particularly because given the slate of GOP candidates, what we are doing in the United States is recognized as the most effective opposition to Obama. Demonstrating that where there is leadership the United States has a much greater potential as a nation than under the British steered puppet Barack Obama. Therefore, our mobilization continues with more at stake than ever been before, which the words of the Russian deputy Prime Minister make very clear: either we must all hang together or we shall most assuredly all hang separately.

Source: http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20977



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[norman]

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[norman]

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[norman]

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[shaberon]

If you look into some aspects of the American power structure, it has been noted that the Secretary of State (H. Clinton) has more power than the president... I suspect this was the 'plan'. Have a puppet as 'Commander in Chief', but have the 'real power' Appear as only a 'Secretary'. Disinformation at Every Level.


To be more specific, an American Secretary is an appointed position.

Secretary of State is the equivalent of a Foreign Minister, which in most other countries is an elected and accountable position.

Ours is not. HRC has plainly said that the Council on Foreign Relations tells the State Department what to think -- and this has been true since its inception.

The CFR, in turn, is a near-clone of whatever comes out of Britain's Chatham House.

The strategy is not new: U. S. in, Russia out, Germany down.

As to what this means right now, as for the E. U. having served as an American footstool for 75 years, I'm not sure. Obviously, it is the same Fascist gang sitting there (Rheinmetal's future looked fine when all others were bleak), and the same idea is on auto-play and the Russians have never been fooled. Well, maybe New Russia in its first few years under promises of "no NATO expansion" and letting in the western creditors, etc., they might have been a little mistaken that was good or in their favor. Behind that thin veneer, they quickly find the same menace coming again.

The only thing I can really promise you is that NATO can collapse overnight, because countries can withdraw their membership. I've not noticed any serious discussion on this and we are now years into the Ukraine conflict. It's the easiest thing you could control. Nothing happens. If one does not relent from this behavior, it is hard to sympathize about the consequences, which presumably would not affect the Reich very much, but would step on the little people first.