our nature

[trenairio]

theists can be as close-minded as well, but if an atheist is truly a freethinker he/she has to speculate in a philosophical sense, the "if" and "why" questions of human beingness, and consider any possibilities of a soul and 'alternative' topics, or is it better to put these questions of our primordial existence aside, and die never really understanding the implications of NDE's and related phenomena, so then why does the american public remain unaware of inherent human nature, should we persist in our nihilism and indulgences while never considering the so-called 'implications' of our 'implied' inner being?

noting that an indulgence is by definition"the gratification of a desire", while mainstream consumerist society is based on that human drive for gratification, and as is said that ... "desire is the cause for suffering"

[Mark]

To understand our inner nature one has to go within to find it. In American consumer culture everything is done to keep people from doing exactly that. Rather, they are accosted and abused with banality, with sensual desires and gratification, with food and drinks that keep one inebriated and chemically altered, in states that barely allow for cogent thinking on any topic let alone the deeper thought and concentration required to get down past the inner voice to see what lies beneath it.

All of this is of course, conscious in design. For those who choose the atheistic persuasion yes, it is "better to put these questions of our primordial existence aside, and die never eally udnerstanding the implications of NDE's and related phenomena". Until then, they misappropriate scientific literature and champion the tree rather than the forest, declaiming about "chemical relationships' and the lack of "objective proof", deriding and ignoring all indications that quantum entanglement is also real and the observer and the observed affect one another as the double-slit experiment proved.

More illusions. More conscious ignorance. More egocentric and bombastic combativeness. More distraction from that which is most important for each and every one of us, which is the point of your post, to discover, once and for all, the nature of our natures.

[Jenci]

noting that an indulgence is by definition"the gratification of a desire", while mainstream consumerist society is based on that human drive for gratification, and as is said that ... "desire is the cause for suffering"

People are programmed and conditioned not to question our inherent human nature but the programming which drives us toward gratification, could actually be what eventually wakes us up.


We are being driven to want more, more, more and we get more, more, more and the more we get, the more we ask - is this it?

Jeanette

[WyoSeeker]

In American consumer culture everything is done to keep people from doing exactly that. Rather, they are accosted and abused with banality, with sensual desires and gratification, with food and drinks that keep one inebriated and chemically altered, in states that barely allow for cogent thinking on any topic let alone the deeper thought and concentration required to get down past the inner voice to see what lies beneath it.

All true, and to such a degree it boggles the mind. In my early awakening I was angry at my fellow Americans for their self-gratifying consumer driven complacency and patriotic support of evil leaders. When I fully understood the scope of this society's control mechanisms over Americans in particular that anger changed more to sorrow and pity for those still asleep and deep admiration for those who have overcome all that was arrayed against them to see through the fog.

The number in that latter group are getting bigger all the time and that's very encouraging.