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BlueGem
30th December 2011, 23:58
Over the last few months, I have become very interested in my own personal development. That lead me here about two weeks ago. Firstly I'd like to thank Bill and the staff here for the wonderful work they do. I'm sure it's been a long road.
So for months I have slowly begun to peel away the many layers that enshroud the elusive truth. At times this has been both confusing and exhilarating. I decided to become more pro-active and sort of "test the waters" regarding the opinions of some friends on certain topics usually discussed here. Hoping that at least some of them would share or understand, I realized i was quite naiive in my approach.
I was laughed at for merely trying to persuade my friends to even think about questioning authority, or the Why's and How's of how authority works. So I decided to push it a little further (out of quiet frustration) and they just couldn't see it. I told them politics was BS, and they called me crazy. They couldn't fathom a system of well thought-out moves by TPTB to keep us all hoodwinked, unfortunately a testament to the power of mass-control.
Lots of people understand that say, the government made lots of mistakes with money and are ruining peoples future. But beyond that was a no-go. It's not like I'm trying to rally up a riot here, just trying to raise awareness. Thinking to all the books, and interviews of contactees and whistleblowers, my plight is dwarfed. But any advice would be great!
Love.
Unified Serenity
31st December 2011, 00:21
Matthew chapter 13 says:
54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?
55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.
The moral of the story is that it's far easier to open your friends eyes having them listen to someone other than you who are nothing to be respected in their eyes. Hurts? Well, sadly unless you are a well established expert on a subject few of those who know you and all your lil foibles and mistakes are going to listen to you when you confront a strongly held belief of theirs. Hell, they don't even want to listen to someone who does know.... keep trudging along.
gaiagirl
31st December 2011, 00:46
One of the most difficult undertakings in one's life (my opinion) is coming to realize that others need to come to this stuff on their own. Remain compassionate for each of their own processes.
Also, as you continue to "peel the layers", you will find yourself drawn to like-minded others and those others drawn to you . . . take advantage of these wonderful opportunities that will arise to make some new friends. (This doesn't mean that you have to leave the old ones behind.)
You may find with the rapid clip that time is moving along now combined with the rising energies of the planet and galaxy may bring these folks around to the inner onion faster than you might expect. Just don't have any expectations. Also, if you could somehow destroy their television sets, get them to meditate on a regular basis, and eat mostly natural, organic, and unprocessed foods they would probably come around sooner rather than later. ;)
Again, let go of expectations and also enjoy your own process.
Earth Angel
31st December 2011, 01:27
I know how you feel BlueGem and I love the reply from gaiagirl (especially the destroy their tv bit) .....anyway I found the same thing, upon learning new things (and this site certainly takes you on a hell of a ride to new and incredible ideas)...trying to introduce these idea's to friends is very challenging......they either literally don't hear you, don't seem to see anything you post on Facebook (yes I know facebook has to go along with the TV) ......or they get very confrontational and don't seem to be able to have a pleasant conversation about these idea's ....... even the stuff that I would consider 'good news' they don't like ........so after a few years of learning and opening my mind to endless possibilities, I am slowly learning not to try to talk to them about anything.......my husband however is a little braver but still hasn't made any headway with people. Often after a night spent with friends he says "I want my four hours back" as nothing of any real importance was discussed for fear of things getting ugly...... the thing is people are waking up so you will meet people who perhaps are open to your new way of thinking...... hang in there and come here as often as you can.
eaglespirit
31st December 2011, 01:47
Hi BlueGem...Wishing You Well and Thank You for sharing!
The best I can do is "live" as though we have transmuted and transformed and transcended already...
that simply means living each moment through unconditional love laced with wisdom...
the wisdom to know when to hold 'em and/or when to show 'em as in Your higher hand of cards.
As has been posted in replies...we are now in extreme acceleration...much like an upside down hour glass full with grain at the bottom...the higher energy is getting so intense now that the grains are being pushed with unseen cosmic force through the funneled center to the 'higher'...
and I feel that most will find their own way...they WILL squeeze through...because it IS what IS inevitable, now, imho!
Live it with love and follow your promptings...and smile alot...it's infectious!!! : )
Rocky_Shorz
31st December 2011, 01:55
remember, when you turn on the light in a room your friends are in, they are in the light... ;)
It isn't as hard as most people think...
jorr lundstrom
31st December 2011, 02:34
You sure have planted some seeds, but you cant make them grow.
They will sprout in due time, under right circumstanses.
You know, wots been said, has been heard, and wots been
heard cant be made unheard. LOL Welcome on deck. LOL
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CivilDawn
31st December 2011, 03:12
I can totally empathize with you on this one. I'm use to getting ripped on by my friends about all sorts of stuff; they think I'm falling off the earth. I've resorting to keeping certain things to myself unless I know they are verifiable by multiple credible sources. Otherwise its easy for those with preconceived notions and beliefs to pass off any kind of issues that we deem important, especially when our claims aren't presented strong enough. How do you talk about TPTB or an energetic global shift or astral planes to people who keep their minds confined to certain areas of thought.....
One commonality I have with them, however, is that we all can distinguish the mindless, consumer- and instant gratification-based nonsense that our crystal clear televisions are drilling into us. So from my experience, my best advice is to appeal to certain commonalities and maybe not approach things so seriously (not to negate the importance of the issue). Also, feel free to talk about things that fascinate you without necessarily taking up a viewpoint: "This is what I've heard though it may or may not be true.... Seems interesting enough for me to explore.." It's not easy to raise help awaken the unwilling but nevertheless we have work to do. Cheers :)
BlueGem
31st December 2011, 11:59
Thanks everyone for the great advice, it's given me a lot to ponder over. I know we have to be patient, but as Earth Angel said about her husband, it's so frustrating sometimes to just not be able to talk about things with the people that are important to you. Meh
thanks again guys and gals!
createnjoy
31st December 2011, 13:08
"Be the change you wish to see in the world."
I have found that sharing information in a "sharing" way vs persuasive seems to work best for me. Typically, when someone hearing this information is ready, they will become engaged and the conversation progresses. To borrow a concept from NLP, in order to effectively communicate, we need to do some map matching. This means that there needs to be enough similar information (map) in our hearer in order to take in the information we are sharing. Look for the points in common and gradually build upon that if possible. Remember...you may be the one planting the first seed. No harvest will immediately occur but may later begin to bloom. We just do what we can do at the time. With best wishes for love and courage! M
Simonm
31st December 2011, 16:46
I've stopped bothering. If they ask, I tell them. There are a couple that are waking, but I try not to push. My immediate family are good, but other friends I'm leaving to their own waking time.
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