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Arrowwind
29th August 2012, 14:57
Ron Paul - Sarah Palin ticket!!!! wooo hooo!!!
Ron Paul and Sara Palin? That is hysterical!
Maia Gabrial
29th August 2012, 17:20
Even though the political system is defective; and I don't like either candidate choices, I'm going to write Ron Paul's name in.
Cidersomerset
29th August 2012, 18:39
Ron Paul delegates fight to be heard at RNC
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Published on 28 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica
The Republican National Convention started on Tuesday in Tampa, Florida. At the convention Mitt Romney's wife and New Jersey's Governor are
expected to deliver speeches, but there is a group that feels that the GOP is blatantly trying to silence them - Ron Paul's delegates that is.
RT correspondent Kristine Frazao is on the ground and brings the latest.
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Well Romney as expected nominated and the status quo is back to normal, but Ron Paul can be proud of his efforts to expose these
crooks who run the world and more people than ever know elections are fixed by the corporate sponcers and interrest groups...
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Published on 29 Aug 2012 by RussiaToday
The Republicans in the U.S. have officially nominated Mitt Romney to challenge President Obama in the race for the White House.
Recent opinion polls show Romney and Obama locked in a tight race, with Republicans accusing the President of causing
unemployment and high taxes. Political blogger Richard Spencer says it doesn't matter who takes office, as neither will solve
the country's economic woes...
blake
3rd September 2012, 18:25
Some Buzz about maybe a third party race IF there is vocal and concrete support from the masses...
Update on that Ron Paul Third Party Conference Call: Had to get a larger room with a new number
Submitted by laurenorourke on Sun, 09/02/2012 - 20:47
in Politics, General + Law(s)
Update from Israel Anderson quoting Doug Wead
From Evan Alaska: (background)
7 PM Alaska Time - Sunday Teleconference: People for Ron Paul for President
UPDATE: I had to get a larger conference room -- the limit for the original number was 96 people but over 300 have signed up- now I can accomodate up to 1,000 people.
THE NUMBER HAS CHANGED as of mid-day today.
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The call is at 7:00 PM ALASKA TIME Today - Sunday - That is 8 PM Pacific (California) time, and 11 PM Eastern, for those who might be confused.
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I spoke with Dr. Paul yesterday about continuing the fight by running on a third party ticket. I want to share what he said to me and let you know what needs to be done to make this happen. It can happen, but it's going to take some work. If you are willing to support this effort, please share this event and call in:
NOTE the Free Conference Call number and access code has been changed to a new one as of today:
Conference dial-in number: (559) 726-1200
Participant access code: 811476
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UPDATE: September 2, 2012, 5:45 pm PST
We will also have at least one live stream over the internet now. Kerry Corn has a show called Face the Facts and will be calling in and broadcasting it live. http://tobtr.com/s/3591837
We may also have Matt Larson of youtube fame and another one of our Ron Paul Delegates also streaming it live. I'll update this as more information becomes available.
From the Last Frontier,
Evan Cutler
Alaskans for Ron Paul 2012 (http://www.alaskans4ronpaul2012.org/)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Alaskans4RonPaul
Girdwood, AK 99587
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Related: Ron Paul 3rd Party Teleconference!
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blake
3rd September 2012, 19:32
This one appears to be asking for help by calling his office number or signing a petition..... stating you want him to run.....
Evan, who held the conference call had spoken to Ron Paul. He stated that Ron Paul had no idea the amount of people that supported him.
Evan said that Ron Paul needs to hear from people this week! asking him to run as an Independent!
He gave out the phone numbers for Ron Paul here is his Congressional website.
Washington D.C. - (202) 225-2831
Texas office -( 979)285-0231
Victoria Texas office -( 361)576-1231
Here is the website to sign the petition for him to run as a third party at Ron Paul 2012.
Evan asked for everyone to go to that site and sign the petition for Ron Paul to run!
He empathized that this information needs to get out to the public and everyone that is for Ron Paul.
blake
3rd September 2012, 19:43
Ron Paul Guest on Tonight Show with Leno Tuesday, 9/4/12
Ron Paul has been announced as a guest on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno for Tuesday, September 4th, 2012. While denied a speaking slot at the GOP 2012 Convention, Ron Paul is probably getting more mainstream exposure than ever before.
Leno has a history of showing respect to Ron Paul. In 2007, he famously included Ron Paul as a guest on very short notice when FOX News refused to include him in their debate on the evening before the New Hampshire primary.
cacklingmuse
3rd September 2012, 22:02
I think he's going to announce that he will be running on the Libertarian ticket...
Ron Mauer Sr
3rd September 2012, 22:45
An announcement that Ron Paul running for president with Jesse Ventura for VP would be a beautiful sight for me to behold.
gooty64
3rd September 2012, 22:47
An announcement that Ron Paul running for president with Jesse Ventura for VP would be a beautiful sight for me to behold.
That would be cool and they would win in my opinion.:first:
Arrowwind
4th September 2012, 04:28
I thought the Libertarians already had a candidate?
either way Im voting for him. even as a stand alone
Mulder
4th September 2012, 06:39
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OMG - we can SEE the results manipulated so Ron Paul Loses?
Mulder
4th September 2012, 06:40
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OMG - we can SEE the results manipulated so Ron Paul Loses?
bennycog
4th September 2012, 10:36
great vid Mulder..
it is almost hard to believe that those people wiping off votes can get away with it.. one thing to add votes but to wipe a whole town or county out by showing they did not vote at all is just being cheeky right in your face...
they must be sooo damn cocky
applecrusher1992
5th September 2012, 03:30
I am still writing in for Ron Paul even if my state law says I can't. I have a write to vote for who I want regardless of whether they have a party affiliation or not.
humanalien
5th September 2012, 10:31
Ron Paul - Jay Leno 9/4/12
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blake
5th September 2012, 13:05
Hello humanalien,
Thanks for posting this. Such a disappointment not more was said, but then again
eight minutes doesn't give much time to say too much.
I hope the American People will actively and overtly rebel now against this system
that is being so controlling and manipulating as to wash away whatever the People may want.
From what has so opening transpired with the Republican party, I don't think it is important
as to whom one might vote for President. I think it is more important, to the point of basic survival of this country,
to understand and shine a light on the overt,in- your- face shenanigans of the Republican and Democratic parties
while understanding what the system is doing to All Americans.
The system IS laughing at all Americans, let me count the many ways. In Maine, you may have just turned in
the results of the vote count from your district, and then the "officials" change that count right in front of your
nose to the candidate of their choice; and when you speak up saying those aren't the numbers we turned in,
the "official" answers "well those are the numbers that we have". Or how about right in public at the National
Republican Convention, when the nays out voiced the yeahs, and yet the "officials" recognize the yeahs because
that is what they wanted. It didn’t matter what the People truly voted for. You all know the dirtiness involved.
I don't have to repeat any of it to anyone, and yet look how far the Americans have allowed themselves
to be raped on every level; the only difference is that now the system feels confident that they can now rape you
in broad daylight, in public, and on camera because the system knows that Americans will remain the victim only
sending empty words of disapproval that are as fleeting as a short, gentle wind.
The bottom line is Americans have taught the system, that the system no longer has to be
covert about their shenanigans, or mafia like techniques. They are now confident that they
can do all their dirtiness out in the open, while telling Americans that they are not really witnessing a crime.
They will rewrite what is happening right in front of all America, because they know Americans will
do nothing but gossip as they watch the coming of their own deaths, molestation, or incarceration,
When Americans gave no more than lip service to the TSA doing, “in the name”, of what a well trained and
Non- intrusive canine can do, well that clearly told the system that Americans, like those Jewish people being taken away
in trains so docilely to their slaughter, are just as docile and easily controlled. What is right and good doesn’t matter.
So the People will gossip about the terribleness of it all, as people will do, and the system understands that People
will say a lot of things. But in the end, the people will do as they are told. Americans produce a lot of hot air. And this is evident
because the system has shown repeatedly that they can do whatever they want to you, your grandmother, and your daughters; and they do.
The American People has shown that they will blindly accept being controlled and manipulated in every way including
the way their president is elected. Humans haven’t changed in two thousand years.
Perhaps Doctor Paul believes he can be more effective out of office than in. I think Dr Paul is an amazing human. Unfortunately,
I think Doctor Paul will not see liberty return to America, even if he lives for another twenty years.
Perhaps I have been in this liberty fighting game too long. Dr Paul has passed the torch of liberty to the incoming generation.
Will the older generation do its part in supporting the incoming generation fight for liberty? Well, all we have to do is look at history for that answer.
Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
blake
5th September 2012, 22:29
For those who may have an interest:
AZ RON PAUL UPDATE (National Convention Report)
The folllowing personal report is from the Ron Paul Arizona campaign coordinator. He hits on some of the skuldugerous hilights of the Tampa Hijack.
"If you do not take part in your governance, others gladly will do it for you." Matthew Papke
Convention Report
Hello Patriots!
Special thanks for all those who helped donate to our delegates and get them to Tampa! We could not have done it without your help!
The road has been long, wearisome and daunting. Yet here we remain. No, Ron Paul is not currently the Republican Nominee. No, the liberty Delegates were not able to stave off the lances that are rules 12 and 15. Those un-American rules were added to rules for the 2016 Republican Convention. While they did not prevail in these floor-fights your Delegates fought with valor. No, the RNC nor the MSM broadcast Ron Paul in his hard-fought victories in Free states like: Iowa, Minnesota and Nevada.
In fact if you were a casual observer you might think that the MSM and talking heads were right the whole time. “Ron Paul was a fringe candidate” But if you are like me, and have worked to educate yourself about the good Doctor, the process and the system. Then join me in this toast.
“Lucky are we, the true depths of depravity have been seen. The wailing gripping of power is clenching tightly. Soon the tyrant will tire. And in their exhaustion we will find pockets of weakness, miscalculation and our liberty.”
Ron Paul Won
Ron Paul did not endorse Mitt Romney. He did not bow to the bullies, nor did his Delegates. In fact he was even accosted by his foes as he left Florida for Texas. Ron Paul's private plane and family were searched for explosives by TSA agents at a small airport in Clearwater Florida.
Believe it or not Ron Paul WON, this not so subtle parting gift from the establishment and TSA is pure and simple revenge; the act of a child or impatient Sultan. His Delegates did not depart unscathed either. Jackie Gloor a Delegate from Texas was found with ammunition in her carry on. She says it was planted on her. Truth always prevails and those who would seek to stifle it and use lies for gain will always undo themselves. We are winning!
Outside the Castle Walls
Now we know what the fortress looks like; we have laid siege at its gate and will starve the inequity of power and shelter. The RNC used scare tactics. Private security wore white ROMNEY hats and offered thuggery for those supporting Ron Paul. The RNC banned any evidence of dissent. Not even Ron Paul Mouse Pads escaped the moratorium on Freedom. The RNC yet again changed the rules and broke the rules to suit their agenda.
But now we know...
Rules Change Vote
Against what I perceive as being the badly voted down vote on the RNC rules changes, the RNC Chair approved them, while ignoring the dissenting cries from the elected body. Meanwhile the minority report lay sheathed with Morton Blackwell, the Virginia National Committee Man. Morton was blocked from entering the Convention hall for over 2 hours. His failure to present the minority report at the Rules Committee meeting disabled any chance for floor discussion before the floor vote occurred.
Not only was Morton detained but Delegates from Virginia were on the same bus and were also unable to attend the Convention. The Delegates aboard the bus tweeted their suffering @TPCarney “rules committee member Morton Blackwell is still on the bus.” Virginia and Morton were set to begin the floor fight to block the rules changes and had broad support among many factions of the RNC, including the Tea Party, Conservative Christians and Ron Paulers.
Despite this criminal detour the vote went on. A motion to vote was recognized and Speaker Boehner declared the rule changes had passed. However the words “the Aye’s have it" appeared on the teleprompter immediately after the No’s clearly had it, in my opinion. But speaker Boehner did not miss a beat as he read what was on the screen before him. Here is a great synopsis of the Rules vote with video of the teleprompted results
Broadway
Rachel Maddow once did a piece stating that Herman Cain’s presidential bid was purely for show. I am here to tell you that the 2012 RNC was purely for show. The first page in the official Welcome to Tampa RNC brochure is a letter from Mitt Romney. The pages that followed were glowing endorsements to the glory of Tampa and the coming coronation of Mitt Romney.
The convention center was huge and modern; walking into it seemed an honor as we had work to do and had so been entrusted by all of our constituents to represent their cries for freedom. But upon walking into the great hall I was greeted with the Mitt Romney & Paul Ryan gift shop. The halls of the convention center were lined with images of Mitt Romney resting one leg on a bale of hay or taking a black and white bite out of an apple. The whole thing was a sham.
Against all Odds
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But still we were undeterred, the lack of our signs and banners did not matter. The night before we met with Delegates from around the country to develop our tactics. The Sun Dome Rally served as a rally point for us to get it together. Within 24 hours of arriving on the ground we had the six states needed to get Ron Paul’s name placed on the ballot. The rules called for a plurality of five states so we got six.
Late into the nights we game planned the minority report , we assigned designated leaders set to challenge the credentials report in an effort to seat our Maine brothers and sisters as well as Arizona’s B Delegates. We were as ready as anyone could be! But as you know, the RNC broke the rules. They ignored points of order, and shouts for division. They seemingly detained our General, Morton Blackwell.
From that moment on we would have to carry on our efforts from our knees. The RNC ripped our legs from under us, but we did not care. Each and every opportunity we had to scream for Ron Paul we did, while being respecting to those who supported others. Each minute we had to talk about the NDAA, SOPA, or the economy we did. Thousands of us percolated through the attendees for the 2012 RNC changing minds and winning hearts. Ron Paul T- shirts were seen everywhere, Bold Texans wore Ron Paul stickers on their iconic hats. And even though the RNC would not allow signs for Ron Paul to be displayed inside they marked the roads outside, driven in to the soft earth by Paul Reveres from every state.
The RNC banned anyone from saying the words “Ron Paul” from the stage. So each time Mitt Romney’s Delegates were counted and Ron Paul’s were left out the Convention thundered “Ron Paul!.” The establishment stabbed us in the back with a knife and twisted it slowly but we did not fall. Instead we rallied and banded together even more. A Press Release was set up. For (2) days (1) elected delegate from each state met several times a day in 3-6 hour long sessions that spanned into the late nights. I and other Arizona patriots attended these meetings and voted for the content of the Press Conference We came together and through parliamentary procedure made our grievances known to the world. The Ron Paul R3VOLUTION is alive and well my friends.
Arizona Liberty Delegation Statement
The Republican Liberty Delegation from Arizona is united in its desire to operate under the rules of Republican Party law. We desire to elect leadership that understands the importance of the Rule of Law, the Constitution and represents the interests of their constituents before the special interests of lobbyists.
The 2012 Republican National Convention (RNC) was the perfect example of how to operate outside the rule of law. The Convention leadership ignored their own rules and changed them to suit their needs. Arizona delegates witnessed teleprompted vote results read by the RNC Chair for the Party-changing vote on the rules for the 2016 Republican National Convention. Time and time again hundreds of delegates including Arizona delegates were not recognized when calling the chair for: points of order, points of clarification or division.
Arizona Liberty Republicans were deprived of their National Committee Woman and of a fair state convention. At best, the Arizona Republican Party has failed to understand and adhere to its own rules. At worst, they have consciously flaunted them at their own peril. Calls for unity have been sounded by the RNC since early September 2011. Unfortunately, the RNC continues to trample the rights of those the RNC platform promises to protect.
In order to unseat the current President the Arizona Republican Party will need each and every volunteer and vote. The actions it has coordinated thus far fail to unite individuals who yearn to live as free men and women within the United States of America.
Ron Paul R3PUBLICANS
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We are not going anywhere, we are here to stay and we will not stand for corruption and treason. Lawsuits are in the works already, the grass roots of the Republican Party are rising. This is not about Paul, ending the war on drugs and raw milk or health insurance mandates, this is about rending the crooks from the Party and stopping the centralization of power from occurring. This is about Americans standing up for America.
Though the vipers have been discovered they will not flee so easy. Ready yourselves for each and every district and precinct will soon become hotly contested. We have taken the high road yet they are still occupying the highlands. The march has begun; the various clans and factions are uniting.
We did win in Tampa, we have exposed the liars and thieves, or more so they have exposed themselves. They ask us to vote for their shrub to forget of all the trespasses and join the team. But I for one will not support a plant who has been empowered through lies, treason and disregard for humanity. Be it Ron Paul, Gary Johnson or Snoopy I vote for in November it will be a man or woman who has me and my fellow humans’ best interests at heart.
Come November
The RNC just like the Bush administration’s Patriot Act vote is using the fear of an Obama victory as a tactic to get people to vote for Mitt Romney. I am not afraid I will vote my conscience as the Constitution allows me to do.
That said the Ron Paul Arizona Updates will be ending. We will be sending updates under the Last Chance For Liberty name periodically. Thank you so much for your support and all you do.
Remember we are the R3VOLUTION
P.S.
There are many people who want to see Ron run 3rd Party. If you would like to petition Ron Paul to do so please visit http://www.ronpaul2012.net/ . The Petition has been live for a day or so and already has 14,000 signatures. I have heard from some very trusted people who say Ron Paul will do it if he has the support. I have also been told by very trusted people that he will in no way run 3rd party.
If you want more information on this please let me know, I can connect you with the people who are actively working on this project NATIONWIDE I think the worst case would be that a 3rd Party gets more support, something that is sorely needed in this Left vs. Right Blue Vs. Red country.
Last chance for Liberty? If he does jump on board I'll keep the emails coming :) But if Ron Paul has shown me one thing, it is that we are all capable of leading ourselves. Long live the R3VOLUTION!!!
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giovonni
15th November 2012, 21:00
will share this here...
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In His Final Speech Ron Paul Warns Of “Continuous March Toward Fascism” ...
In shocking address, Congressman blasts “Our Constitution has failed.”
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In an over 45 minute long marathon address on the House floor yesterday, Congressman Ron Paul said farewell after a 36 year long career in politics, including 23 years in office. And he did so with a stark warning to lovers of liberty everywhere...
Read more - http://www.infowars.com/in-his-final-speech-ron-paul-warns-of-continuous-march-toward-fascism/
Watch Ron Paul’s entire riveting speech below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaP_QTV4aWQ&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaP_QTV4aWQ&feature=player_embedded#!
Published on Nov 14, 2012 by johnperna2
WhiteFeather
15th November 2012, 21:56
Ron Paul will be surely missed.....Thanks Gio. If i may also commend you on all your valued posts on the Up at the Ranch Thread. Much Asquali my friend.
;) W.f.
Tane Mahuta
15th November 2012, 23:01
Was never given a chance...
Ron Paul you will be missed...at a time when the
World needs you...
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Cidersomerset
16th November 2012, 06:27
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Published on 15 Nov 2012 by RTAmerica
After serving over 20 years in the US House of Representatives and running for president several times, Congressman Ron Paul delivered his farewell speech on the House floor. On Wednesday, Ron Paul's message of smaller government and liberty resonated through the House chambers. So how will his departure change America? Brian Doherty, senior editor for Reason.com, give us his take.
Cidersomerset
16th November 2012, 12:10
INFOWARS.........................
Ron Paul Warns About Perils of War as Middle East Tilts Toward Ultimate Conflagration
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
November 15, 2012
Israel’s “Operation Pillar of Defense” against the Palestinians in Gaza is likely to produce renewed tensions in the Middle East and ultimately draw the United States further into deepening hostilities against Syria and eventually Iran.
During his farewell speech last night, Rep. Ron Paul said “our foreign policy is destined to keep us involved in many wars that we have no business being in” and these seemingly endless conflicts are waged without congressional approval and “with no complaints from the American people” who have endured more than a decade of perpetual war. “Because it’s the government that initiates force, most people accept it as being legitimate,” Paul said.
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Paul opposed what he called the “Obsession with Iran Bill” in August and has spoken out against policies that will eventually result in the violent overthrow of Syria. Paul stood virtually alone against additional punitive sanctions on Iran, with the exception of Ohio Democrat Rep. Dennis Kucinich, who is also leaving Congress at the end of the year.
Boldly yet futilely, in June Paul introduced a bill to prevent the administration from further involvement in the Syrian quagmire. “This week I’m introducing legislation to prohibit the administration, absent a declaration of war by Congress, from supporting directly or indirectly any military or paramilitary operations in Syria. I hope my colleagues will join me in this effort.”
Few responded, let alone signed on.
“The military action that we are watching in the Middle East right now is just a preview of coming attractions,” writes Michael Snyder today. “Tensions in the region are rising with each passing day, and all sides have been anticipating future conflicts and preparing for war for decades.”
“Right now, Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Syria and Iran are all preparing for war,” he warns.
As Snyder points out, most Americans are not worried about distant events that may lead to a larger and far more portentous world war because they are uniformly ignorant when it comes to history, politics, and even geography. Public education has done an admirable job of dumbing down the average American to the point where it is relatively easy for the global elite to manufacture consent for war. In fact, most mass murder campaigns organized by government are not on the radar screen of the average American because they are not covered by the corporate media.
Engineered consensus also allows a psychopathic global elite to avoid the most rudimentary criticism from a blindsided public.
“When government officials wield power over others to bail out the special interests, even with disastrous results to the average citizen, they feel no guilt for the harm they do. Those who take us into undeclared wars with many casualties resulting, never lose sleep over the death and destruction their bad decisions caused. They are convinced that what they do is morally justified, and the fact that many suffer just can’t be helped,” Paul explained in his farewell speech.
Ron Paul’s departure from the House of Representatives will provide him with an opportunity to organize and lead a newly invigorated liberty movement opposed to war and the rule of an authoritarian elite.
There is little time for the endeavor, however. In the hours, days and at most weeks ahead, the Middle East may find itself irreversibly engaged in destructive and genocidal chaos. It is not certain at present if the conflict shaping up between Israel and Hamas will draw in Hezbollah and possibly Egypt, now ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood.
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-warns-about-perils-of-war-as-middle-east-tilts-toward-ultimate-conflagration/
Cidersomerset
16th November 2012, 12:43
This is the full speach and its 'excelent' ...........He basically says America is governed by Corporate crooks !! and a lot more !!
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Published on 14 Nov 2012 by Eduardo89rp
To achieve liberty and peace, two powerful human emotions have to be overcome.
Number one is "envy" which leads to hate and class warfare. Number two is "intolerance" which leads to bigoted and judgmental policies. These emotions must be replaced with a much better understanding of love, compassion, tolerance and free market economics. Freedom, when understood, brings people together. When tried, freedom is popular.
The problem we have faced over the years has been that economic interventionists are swayed by envy, whereas social interventionists are swayed by intolerance of habits and lifestyles. The misunderstanding that tolerance is an endorsement of certain activities, motivates many to legislate moral standards which should only be set by individuals making their own choices. Both sides use force to deal with these misplaced emotions. Both are authoritarians. Neither endorses voluntarism. Both views ought to be rejected.
I have come to one firm conviction after these many years of trying to figure out "the plain truth of things." The best chance for achieving peace and prosperity, for the maximum number of people world-wide, is to pursue the cause of LIBERTY.
If you find this to be a worthwhile message, spread it throughout the land.
Cidersomerset
16th November 2012, 14:06
Ron Paul doing a very good Q & A with callers 15th nov 2012......".The Republicans & Democrats are the same thing !
Both exploit the American people" !!
This is really good , especially for Americans ,,,,,
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TargeT
16th November 2012, 16:04
Interesting timing, I have theories about Ron Paul that are seemingly unpopular here (Controlled oposition) & his leaving government at this time are an interesting twist, I don't quite see his son as "succsesor" their mentalities are a bit different and Ro. Paul is a true "people's representative" as a congressman where Ra. Paul is a State rep as a senator....
if he is as I think he is then leaving office right now could be a bad sign, if he's not it's still a bad sign, though in a different way.
Cidersomerset
16th November 2012, 16:29
Targe listen to the vids no agenda here that I can see , just retiring. The Q & A on Mox news shows he is really a independent
caught up in the dirty politics of Washington. But knowing how to play with a straight bat as we say over here.
Theres a clip from 1983 about hostages that could be about todays murky world of the CIA etc....
His son Rand maybe a different kettle of fish !!
TargeT
16th November 2012, 16:59
I've never seen Ro. Paul have anything but a supportable stance, ever. (perfect controlled oposition) he has always been the fall back politician that never quite makes a difference, but always gives hope.
on topics that matter (say 9/11, government drug running etc..) he has toed the status quo stance & not challanged truth, firmly keeping the focus on politics level & preventing deeper analysis (my take).
ljwheat
16th November 2012, 17:11
This is only my opinion? Have we all lost our collective minds. We toss around all these idea’s about the bankster’s and the corrupt representatives in DC.
We all know pretty much Its one party (good old boy’s) with two political names.
The public swearing in of these officials, and the behind closed doors swearing in -- they are one club. Regardless of the Vatican accounts in Rome are true or not, its still one club that protects itself.
Like WWF smack down on TV. These guy’s take turns playing good guy bad guy -- there pay check come’s from one source and all of them swore to up hold the clan.
When are we going to wake up from this allusion of a free and democratic or republic -- good cop / bad cop smoke and mirror’s job there controlling us with.
IMO there all in the same pot and we are not.
Cidersomerset
16th November 2012, 20:39
This is only my opinion? Have we all lost our collective minds. We toss around all these idea’s about the bankster’s and the corrupt representatives in DC.
We all know pretty much Its one party (good old boy’s) with two political names.
The public swearing in of these officials, and the behind closed doors swearing in -- they are one club. Regardless of the Vatican accounts in Rome are true or not, its still one club that protects itself.
Like WWF smack down on TV. These guy’s take turns playing good guy bad guy -- there pay check come’s from one source and all of them swore to up hold the clan.
When are we going to wake up from this allusion of a free and democratic or republic -- good cop / bad cop smoke and mirror’s job there controlling us with.
IMO there all in the same pot and we are not.
Thats what he more or less said when answering questions in the Q & A session.....I know what you are saying and he won't come out like we would like
him to and say the government are run by crooks behind the scenes , but he was insinuating it imo !!
jackovesk
7th December 2012, 13:15
Dec 5th, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=2lllc45628s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=2lllc45628s
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ExomatrixTV
9th December 2012, 17:25
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‘Ron Paul: The Film’ by Infowars Backs Up Retiring Congressman’s Points
December 8, 2012
Ron Paul’s farewell speech in November 2012 made the rounds throughout the internet, but due to skepticism of the former congressmen’s (R-Texas) words, Infowars pieced together news clips and backup documentation to show that Paul speaks the truth. Hence the birth of Ron Paul: The Film.
[...] In 2012, more young people became aware of the damage “big government” continues to do to our economy and civil liberties as thousands showed up to his rallies, Paul points out.
Paul begins wrapping up his speech with the five greatest dangers that the American people face to impede a goal of a free society. What are they?
1. The continuous attack on our civil liberties which threatens the rule of law and our ability to resist the onrush of tyranny.
2. Violent anti-Americanism that has engulfed the world. Because the phenomenon of “blow-back” is not understood or denied, our foreign policy is destined to keep us involved in many wars that we have no business being in. National bankruptcy and a greater threat to our national security will result.
4. A financial political crisis as a consequence of excessive debt, unfunded liabilities, spending, bailouts, and gross discrepancy in wealth distribution going from the middle class to the rich. The danger of central economic planning, by the Federal Reserve must be understood.
5. World government taking over local and US sovereignty by getting involved in the issues of war, welfare, trade, banking, a world currency, taxes, property ownership, and private ownership of guns.
~IntelHub: http://goo.gl/kqau0
Not just Infowars.com, but many a political researcher and pundit took notice that Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress was a historic and very important speech spelling out that our country is becoming a corrupt empire and that we're becoming a tyranny of tyrannies.
The New York Times, LA Times, Fox News and many others all took notice of his farewell address, something that doesn't normally happen with a Congressman, as he laid out the fork in the road America has come to: liberty or tyranny.
I asked one of my great reporters and video editors, Jon Bowne, to just back everything Congressman Paul said up, but when we talk about something, we like to show news articles or video clips because so many are skeptical and in denial about the ravaged state of our liberties.
Originally we intended the piece to be just something for the Infowars Nightly News, but it quickly snowballed into a three week project as we did more and more research backing up everything he said.
So, now this is essentially Ron Paul's Farewell 2.0. It's a film because his farewell address was about his life and about where this country is going and the choice we have. So it really is Ron Paul: The Film.
We struggled with the name for it: "Ron Paul's Farewell Address Documented," "Ron Paul's Farewell Address Animated," "Ron Paul's Farewell Address Illustrated and Documented," call it what you will.
Here is "Ron Paul: The Film" because he condensed down his thirty plus years of fighting tyranny into this incredibly important and profound warning that if we don't turn things around, we are in deep, deep trouble and are going to repeat history.
~source: http://infowars.com/ron-paul-the-film/
http://RonPaul2012.whynotnews.eu
Arrowwind
9th December 2012, 19:29
Thank you for this thread. We just finished watching the video. I have deep regret that he didn't make it in the election but I do believe his undying effort over the years has awakened the people and his words will move forward and more are to awaken yet.
there is a revolution coming.. it remains to be seen if we revolve into freedom or futher repression.
This film really needs to be passed around to go viral.
Mozart
19th January 2013, 19:03
Sooooo, this is the next illusion to eff us all?
"Boner" in the subject line was done on purpose...
http://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/the-inauguration-of-john-boehner-and-ron-paul-as-interim-president-vice-president-of-the-republic-of-usa/
Things could well come to a full stop for some when they hear that Obama is stepping down, that there will be a paper ballot election within 120 days to elect new governmental officials, that mass arrests took place, that ETs are assisting to reorganize our government and financial infrastructure, a new US currency will come into play, that the evil lizards that plagued our planet are gone forever, that we will no longer be taxed to death, that we will soon be meeting our Galactic families from the Star Nations…
Kool Aid, anyone?
~Mozart
kaon
19th January 2013, 19:28
Awwwww. Come on now. We all know that Ron Paul wouldn't play second fiddle to Boner :doh:
Lifebringer
19th January 2013, 22:35
Why not, they had such a great time with lying Ryan andMittwitt, they are gonna tryand Palinize em again. I hope all the tin foil hats are off, and they turn up the heat on those DC chickens. If they would just ge these greedy 20th century pirates out of WS and DC, this country would be way better off.
Throw the greedy sob's out, put em in "stocks before 42nd street, like the hookers they are.
Mozart
19th January 2013, 22:48
Ok, my friend thinks that there's something up with this inauguration event with the amount of TV-time that's scheduled for it.
I checked the Direct TV guide online and it shows the TV air time to be from 0700hrs to 1200hrs, so that's 5 hours of TV time set aside for this event.
I think that this is a normal amount of time for a presidential inauguration, but she thinks that it's far above the norm -- do any of you recall previous inaugurations' allotted TV time?
The current time spans of the various MSM stations (CBS, ABC, NBC) range from 5 hours to 6 hours -- that seems normal, right?
I'm googling for any history of previous presidential inaugurations' air time ... what bloody site would have that?
FWIW, my intuitive friend tuned into this coming event and she feels that there's something very positive that's connected to the scheduled inauguration.
I'm checking it out ... just in case the big Disclosure process happens then. Ya never know, ya know...
Snookie
20th January 2013, 04:39
Ok, my friend thinks that there's something up with this inauguration event with the amount of TV-time that's scheduled for it.
I checked the Direct TV guide online and it shows the TV air time to be from 0700hrs to 1200hrs, so that's 5 hours of TV time set aside for this event.
I think that this is a normal amount of time for a presidential inauguration, but she thinks that it's far above the norm -- do any of you recall previous inaugurations' allotted TV time?
The current time spans of the various MSM stations (CBS, ABC, NBC) range from 5 hours to 6 hours -- that seems normal, right?
I'm googling for any history of previous presidential inaugurations' air time ... what bloody site would have that?
FWIW, my intuitive friend tuned into this coming event and she feels that there's something very positive that's connected to the scheduled inauguration.
I'm checking it out ... just in case the big Disclosure process happens then. Ya never know, ya know...
Could it be another FF event where they would then have an excuse to declare marital law?
Carmody
20th January 2013, 09:23
There may be a potential 'issue' (they may be worrying...) and having a larger window allows them to "dip'n sway', a bit. To mess the with the timing, to slow things down, just enough....
Maunagarjana
20th January 2013, 09:34
Ok, my friend thinks that there's something up with this inauguration event with the amount of TV-time that's scheduled for it.
I checked the Direct TV guide online and it shows the TV air time to be from 0700hrs to 1200hrs, so that's 5 hours of TV time set aside for this event.
I think that this is a normal amount of time for a presidential inauguration, but she thinks that it's far above the norm -- do any of you recall previous inaugurations' allotted TV time?
The current time spans of the various MSM stations (CBS, ABC, NBC) range from 5 hours to 6 hours -- that seems normal, right?
I'm googling for any history of previous presidential inaugurations' air time ... what bloody site would have that?
FWIW, my intuitive friend tuned into this coming event and she feels that there's something very positive that's connected to the scheduled inauguration.
I'm checking it out ... just in case the big Disclosure process happens then. Ya never know, ya know...
Disclosure would be cool....I look forward to that almost as much as Lady Gaga's performance. :rolleyes:
Cidersomerset
1st February 2013, 18:04
Why has this massive story of global importance been removed from the Daily Mail Website?
Friday, 01 February 2013 10:55
Posted by David Icke
It exposes an alleged Problem-Reaction-Solution chemical attack in Syria that
would be blamed on President Assad to justify military action against him and his
regime.Visitors to this website know that this is happening all the time and 9/11
was the most famous example, but here was a British national newspaper
publishing the story.Now it has gone. Do you think you could explain why Daily
Mail? If there was a denial as there would have to be why is that not simply printed
with the original story?
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb2013/123.png
This image of the article was captured by Dr Manjir Samanta-Laughton who read
the story and thought that it may well disappear given the content. She was right.
This was the original Daily Mail link for the article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html
Syria is not a war caused by 'rebels' within the country just as the Libya 'revolution'
was not. They are part of a systematic fake 'Arab Spring' takeover of the whole of
Africa and the Middle and Near East by forces working through the United States,
Israel and NATO (all the same thing if you go high enough or deep enough). I have
been exposing this plan in my books for years and what is now happening in Mali
and planned for country after country in Africa orchestrated through the US
AFRICOM network is all part of this. Watch out South Africa because they want you,
too. They want everything because they are insane.
They manufacture a different excuse for each new country although with Libya and
Syria it was exactly the same. 'Rebels' funded and armed by the US and NATO (via
Qatar) start attacking government targets and when the government returns fire
the forces behind the 'rebels' scream through their compliant and ignorant
media 'Gadhafi/Assad is killing his own people'. They then use this 'humanitarian'
excuse to send the boys in to slaughter the innocent and steal oil reserves and
other assets.
They did this in Libya and they have been desperate to do this in Syria but it has
not been as easy as they thought and so they planned to covertly arrange a
chemical attack so they could say 'we have to send in NATO to stop Assad killing
his own people with chemical weapons'.
No wonder the Daily Mail article has been removed so quickly. When their game is
exposed they lose their cover stories.
Here is the story on the Infowars website.
Read more ...
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/79175-why-has-this-massive-story-of-global-importance-been-removed-from-the-daily-mail-website
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QI07z76OYjg
Published on 30 Jan 2013
Today Syrian television confirmed that Israeli aicraft bombed Syrian territory. This
happened while Syrian rebels have continued to fight to overthrow President Bashar al-
Assad. In the past, al-Assad agreed to a UN supervised cease-fire but the rebels
refused. As a result the number of victims of the civil war exceeded sixty thousands
people, according to the UN. RT's Liz Wahl has more on the bloodshed in Syria.
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Niger approves construction of US spy drone base
Z385U_Bc69w
Published on 29 Jan 2013
Despite an investigation by the United Nations for America's drone strikes abroad, the
United States has announced plans to establish a drone base in Niger. According to
reports, the expansion of the drone program in the region is to monitor al-Qaeda
activity in the area, but how will this move affect US foreign policy objectives? Stephen
Miles, coalition coordinator with Win without War, gives us his take on the newly
announced strategy.
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Ron Paul exposes Obama's 'undeclared war' in Mali
T_FQaDOZB8E
Published on 30 Jan 2013
Three weeks ago, French forces intervened in the African country of Mali where Islamist
militants were attempting to cease control of key cities in the country. Now the French
are claiming victory over the rebels and the US is providing intel and aiding in refueling
missions. Former Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has never shied away from
criticizing America's interventions abroad and is calling this move another "undeclared
war" by the US. RT's Liz Wahl brings us more.
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Paa
1st February 2013, 18:35
-I've removed this post-
sheme
1st February 2013, 18:40
playing devils advocate here! This may be all the Tyrant has left "chemicals" Disinformation is rampant- all this really tells us is that someone somewhere is considering this wickedness, and the Daily Mail has no air tight proof of it's accusation!
Cidersomerset
1st February 2013, 19:13
playing devils advocate here! This may be all the Tyrant has left "chemicals" Disinformation is rampant- all this really tells us is that someone somewhere is considering this wickedness, and the Daily Mail has no air tight proof of it's accusation!
Thats it we do not really Know, but what we do know Saddam had no weapons of
Mass destruction, or chemical weapons ready to use other
than the ones he had already used to kill Kurds given to him by the
west.Remember the 'super gun' scandel in the Uk about supplying Saddam
with a massive cannon capable of hitting Tehran. Bin Laden did 9/11,The Taliban
was not a threat to the west but did reduce the Afghan poppycrop to zero, theres
so much disinfo put out by intelligence agencies we have no way of knowing the
real truth.....What we do know is they all spin the truth and tell lies and
perform 'False Flag' operations, so anything could be brewing and we can do little
to effect it as governments do not listen to their people.
Millions of anti war demostrators marched in London against the second Gulf war
and Tony ' messiah' Blair ingnored the lot and Alister Campbell help spin a load of lies !!...Steve
Cidersomerset
1st February 2013, 22:55
The story was also removed from reddit after heading for the frontpage in r/worldnews: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/co...ial_documents/
Edit: perhaps I didn't read the OP properly, this is another story. My bad.
Thanks PAA interesting link...
Tangri
1st February 2013, 23:40
US did try same thing at Iraq before the invasion/war, they employed nuclear wast in Turkey to export the Iraq's land to show the world they had mass destruction weapon but something went wrong and US soldiers got statics with Turkish soldier because of the weapon carrying in other sovereign country. Their weapon confiscated and their cargo was checked , then The big problem occurred. Turkey get agitated to have unpleasant nuclear risk in their land, and they became oppose that Northern attack to Iraq. US had to attacked only from south border and they could not use that Nuclear proof because of the disclose.
DeDukshyn
2nd February 2013, 00:41
US did try same thing at Iraq before the invasion/war, they employed nuclear wast in Turkey to export the Iraq's land to show the world they had mass destruction weapon but something went wrong and US soldiers got statics with Turkish soldier because of the weapon carrying in other sovereign country. Their weapon confiscated and their cargo was checked , then The big problem occurred. Turkey get agitated to have unpleasant nuclear risk in their land, and they became oppose that Northern attack to Iraq. US had to attacked only from south border and they could not use that Nuclear prove because of the disclose.
Beat me to it ... this is true ;) Not only that, private US military company who I won't name out of fear of reprisal (Halliburton I believe ;)) was also selling chemicals to Iraq, which could only really be used for making chemical weapons. And Saddam had previously used chemical weapons on his own people -- something that was brought up a billion times during the Iraq war. The US sold him the stuff.
It's the same story everywhere -- their tactic is old. It even applies to "terrorists" (aka Al Qeada). Supply the "brown" people you hate with illegal weapons, then when they use them, use that as reason to condemn and garner support for "attack" to help save the "innocent civilians"
So old a tactic it's laughable ..
norman
2nd February 2013, 00:47
......air tight proof ........
It may very well be that they DID have air tight proof.
There's nothing like "air tight proof" to make your sphincter twitch.
ExomatrixTV
23rd February 2013, 18:59
V-xSHQcp8n8
~sub: http://youtube.com/RonPaulRevolt2012 & http://youtube.com/RandPaul2016Revolt
Joseph McAree
23rd February 2013, 22:11
Hi John , great video thanks ,
I have never seen this video before, so I take it, the establishment could not shoot him as they did with JFK, so they silence him using their powers of controlling, the not so free press to suppress his popularity, what a disgrace.
I am so sorry the people of America, as you did not get the right man into office, I am sorry for the world for the opportunity that was missed, to have a man of peace and liberty in control of a super power!
Many thanks kindest regards
Joe
Rex
23rd February 2013, 22:52
Thank you for posting. I think we all knew he was marginalized, but this shows the tip of how disgusting it really was. And here we are today, worse than ever...
felixq78
23rd February 2013, 23:09
They didn't just cheat Ron Paul, they cheated the American people and the whole world but that's OK,.. THEY WILL PAY !
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At least the man is alive, if they hadn't blocked him by fooling the moronic masses and he'd become president they probably would have assassinated him.
Mulder
24th February 2013, 19:47
This isn't the first time TPTB have closed ranks to protect their power - don't forget what happened to Ross Perot in the 1990s.
ExomatrixTV
26th February 2013, 01:36
6J0pCpi2SS8
http://campaignforliberty.org ~sub: http://youtube.com/RonPaulRevolt2012
On today's program, Alex welcomes former Congressman Ron Paul to break down the use of force by federal agents to enforce unjust and unconstitutional laws and the victimization of Americans for simply engaging in commercial transactions. http://ronpaul.com
~Unslave Humanity Tactical Media: http://whynotnews.eu/?p=2143
gittarpikk
26th February 2013, 03:30
Maybe I'm wrong, but did Alex not cut Ron off quite quickly after he didn't go along with the impeach line of questions.... c'mon...that was Ron Paul... did he >have< to be cut off for time purposes... and in the middle of his sentence no less? I've seen Alex give MUCH less interesting/important people another hour just because they were involved in a somewhat interesting round of conversation.
your thoughts please...
ExomatrixTV
26th February 2013, 04:00
Maybe I'm wrong, but did Alex not cut Ron off quite quickly after he didn't go along with the impeach line of questions.... c'mon...that was Ron Paul... did he >have< to be cut off for time purposes... and in the middle of his sentence no less? I've seen Alex give MUCH less interesting/important people another hour just because they were involved in a somewhat interesting round of conversation.
your thoughts please...
~commercials are fixed time-slots, and Ron Paul may have other appointments, so your insinuations does not serve you
Positive Vibe Merchant
26th February 2013, 04:21
fair point, btu still, Alex is one of the worst for cutting off his guests to steer the conversation where he wants it to go.
Mulder
26th February 2013, 08:27
Ron and Rand Paul had big plans for the 2012 elections and nothing came of it. I think the same thing will keep repeating. IMO this old saying is appropriate: "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice,..."
GoodETxSG
26th February 2013, 13:31
- Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957)
“Treaties DO NOT confer powers NOT authorized by Constitution…”
- "16 Am Jur. 2nd, Sec 177 late 256:
No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."
robinr1
26th February 2013, 14:36
mulder
how can u possibly blame ron paul for the fools out there not voting for him?
also how in any way did he fool or shame u.....hes an elderly man fighting for our freedoms and rights like no politician maybe ever , and hes still
doing it til this day......at age 76.
Mulder
26th February 2013, 18:58
Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/rand-paul-to-campaign-for-romney-while-dad-wont-endorse/
The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.
Mulder
26th February 2013, 19:04
- Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957)
“Treaties DO NOT confer powers NOT authorized by Constitution…”
- "16 Am Jur. 2nd, Sec 177 late 256:
No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."
Unfortunately, the Satanic Courts can rule anyway the like, or are told to and there's no holding any Judge to account as they have immunity from prosecution - e.g. Jesse Ventura's TSA lawsuit. The Judge took several months to rule she has no "Jurisdiction" over a constitutional matter (and she never told Jesse who does have Jurisdiction?)
humanalien
26th February 2013, 19:43
Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/rand-paul-to-campaign-for-romney-while-dad-wont-endorse/
The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.
I was going to post something along those lines earlier but i didn't
want people to think that i was a ron paul hater, which i'm not.
I just feel that he is a tiger with no teeth. He wants to help but
just can't get the job done. I have mixed feelings about Rand Paul.
I don't know where he stands yet.
Fred Steeves
26th February 2013, 19:47
I like Ron Paul, and much like Alex Jones, he's great entry level material into figuring out the trap we are in.
Positive Vibe Merchant
27th February 2013, 00:28
I like Ron Paul, and much like Alex Jones, he's great entry level material into figuring out the trap we are in.
The good thing about Ron Paul though as well, is that he is part of the system, and reaches a totally different audience with the language he uses and the position he holds. I believe he is an important piece in the puzzle and requires encouragement to continue.
PVM
robinr1
27th February 2013, 01:19
well he has already retired and whether he has acheived much is very subjective i am aware..........if the only politician who will speak against the evills of endless war......... and has been trying to end the fed for 30 years doesnt acheive
much i would say horray for him for having the courage to speak the 100 percent truth.......and boooo to the people for not supporting him.....
hard to accomplish much when u are just one person trying to change the entire crooked system.imo its amazing they didnt kill him for the truths he told for so long
Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/rand-paul-to-campaign-for-romney-while-dad-wont-endorse/
The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.
robinr1
27th February 2013, 01:28
also i must rspond to the dysfunctional family quote...becuase it is so incorrect and imo absurd.........yes rand did endorse romney......after ron had withdrawn from the race and stop campaigning.
rand is trying to play the game..something ron would never do......an outsider...like ron was can never change the system from within. not saying rand paul will be able to.......but that imo is his goal. president 2016.
well he has already retired and whether he has acheived much is very subjective i am aware..........if the only politician who will speak against the evills of endless war......... and has been trying to end the fed for 30 years doesnt acheive
much i would say horray for him for having the courage to speak the 100 percent truth.......and boooo to the people for not supporting him.....
hard to accomplish much when u are just one person trying to change the entire crooked system.imo its amazing they didnt kill him for the truths he told for so long
Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/rand-paul-to-campaign-for-romney-while-dad-wont-endorse/
The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.
kaon
27th February 2013, 01:35
Because even his son Rand, endorsed Romey instead of his own father - what a dysfunctional family!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/rand-paul-to-campaign-for-romney-while-dad-wont-endorse/
The fact is becoming clear to me that we have to "save" ourselves, that our "saviors" extolled in the media like Obama, or Pope Benedict are only human (at best) or, (at worst) are deceiving us. So we have to save ourselves (or not). IMO Ron Paul will retire soon and will not achieve very much for anyone.
I have to disagree with you on Ron Paul's future achievements. I believe that he is going to wake up a lot of people in the next few years. He will now have more control with his own agenda without being saddled down in congress.
Retire soon? I don't think so. Perhaps you define "soon" differently then I do, but I see Ron Paul going strong for a few more years (at least 3). He seems to be physically in good shape and his mind is extremely sharp. I look for a lot of good to come from him.
ExomatrixTV
27th February 2013, 02:50
V-xSHQcp8n8
Maia Gabrial
27th February 2013, 18:38
I think I understand what Ron Paul really meant about impeaching Obama. He was saying good luck trying....
A few days ago, I was reading a store receipt and the part that suddenly stood out in my mind was "....the US and DC". I've read this on many other things as well. The implications of this never dawned on me until now.
What I've discovered is that District of Columbia is NOT part of the United States. They are a city/state that answers to no one. Just knowing this makes all the corruption that they've gotten away with make more sense. They break laws with impunity. When anyone tries to convict them, look who they'll stand before: more of the corrupted politicians....No justice will ever be served that way, I can tell you!
Why is it that we answer to THEM? It's not supposed to be like that. We send our delegates to represent us, but as we've seen time and time again, they become just like the rest of them. They fall victim to the corruption there. It's a miracle that people like Ron Paul have managed to retain their honor and integrity in that place. I'm willing to guess that the numbers of honest guys fall way below the criminal ones.
I think Ron Paul knew the truth way before many of us did. I think he was trying to say that there's no way we can change what's going on in DC from inside DC. It would be virtually impossible. If he said that presidents for the last 50 years SHOULD HAVE been impeached, he was hinting "good luck trying to get this one, too....."
The best way to solve this is to get outside of that "10 square mile box" that's DC. We all NEED to know the truth about what's going on there, and even WHAT is there; so we can find a way to rectify it. As we're all starting to see that the Truth refuses to stay hidden now. These corrupted people are being exposed as they're committing their crimes. To them, I say: "Rack 'em, sweethearts. It's just more evidence to convict you with! And you WILL be convicted!"
Maybe Ron Paul will be the first leader of America after all is said and done....
AutumnW
27th February 2013, 19:00
Ron Paul is great in theory. In practice, if he were to win the presidency and put his deflationary practices into play, he would end up being the most hated president in history, by everyone, including his followers. Gutting entitlements and the military during the depression he would usher in....not pretty. Not saying he doesn't have some good ideas, particularly his anti war stance. Govt is employer of last resort, particularly in hard times. Paul would lead the U.S. right over a cliff, before he had a chance to straighten things out.
What is Paul's stance on mega corporations. Does he give them a free pass?
risveglio
27th February 2013, 22:02
Ron Paul is great in theory. In practice, if he were to win the presidency and put his deflationary practices into play, he would end up being the most hated president in history, by everyone, including his followers. Gutting entitlements and the military during the depression he would usher in....not pretty. Not saying he doesn't have some good ideas, particularly his anti war stance. Govt is employer of last resort, particularly in hard times. Paul would lead the U.S. right over a cliff, before he had a chance to straighten things out.
What is Paul's stance on mega corporations. Does he give them a free pass?
I don't think you understand Ron Paul. As for his stance on mega corporations, they could not exist without mega government.
humanalien
27th February 2013, 22:40
I think I understand what Ron Paul really meant about impeaching Obama. He was saying good luck trying....
A few days ago, I was reading a store receipt and the part that suddenly stood out in my mind was "....the US and DC". I've read this on many other things as well. The implications of this never dawned on me until now.
What I've discovered is that District of Columbia is NOT part of the United States. They are a city/state that answers to no one. Just knowing this makes all the corruption that they've gotten away with make more sense. They break laws with impunity. When anyone tries to convict them, look who they'll stand before: more of the corrupted politicians....No justice will ever be served that way, I can tell you!
Why is it that we answer to THEM? It's not supposed to be like that. We send our delegates to represent us, but as we've seen time and time again, they become just like the rest of them. They fall victim to the corruption there. It's a miracle that people like Ron Paul have managed to retain their honor and integrity in that place. I'm willing to guess that the numbers of honest guys fall way below the criminal ones.
I think Ron Paul knew the truth way before many of us did. I think he was trying to say that there's no way we can change what's going on in DC from inside DC. It would be virtually impossible. If he said that presidents for the last 50 years SHOULD HAVE been impeached, he was hinting "good luck trying to get this one, too....."
The best way to solve this is to get outside of that "10 square mile box" that's DC. We all NEED to know the truth about what's going on there, and even WHAT is there; so we can find a way to rectify it. As we're all starting to see that the Truth refuses to stay hidden now. These corrupted people are being exposed as they're committing their crimes. To them, I say: "Rack 'em, sweethearts. It's just more evidence to convict you with! And you WILL be convicted!"
Maybe Ron Paul will be the first leader of America after all is said and done....
I've known this for a long time but it must have been the way
that you worded your post, that made me think of something.
District of Columbia is NOT part of the United States
If that is true, how is it that they can pass laws for a country
that they are not a part of?
They are a city/state that answers to no one
Following the example of our government, when another
country sneaks into america and kills many of our citizens,
doesn't the government declare a war on that country?
With our government(a foreign land), poisoning us, killing
us, dictating to us of what we can and can't do, don't we
having the right to make war with them? After all, we are
a country with no government other than at the state level.
AutumnW
27th February 2013, 23:09
Ron Paul is great in theory. In practice, if he were to win the presidency and put his deflationary practices into play, he would end up being the most hated president in history, by everyone, including his followers. Gutting entitlements and the military during the depression he would usher in....not pretty. Not saying he doesn't have some good ideas, particularly his anti war stance. Govt is employer of last resort, particularly in hard times. Paul would lead the U.S. right over a cliff, before he had a chance to straighten things out.
What is Paul's stance on mega corporations. Does he give them a free pass?
I don't think you understand Ron Paul. As for his stance on mega corporations, they could not exist without mega government.
Does Ron Paul ever address anti-combines and anti-trust legislation that has been trashed by both Dems and Repugs? True, many large corporations dependent on military funds would suffer. I'd really like to know where he stands philosophically on corporate power. If he has the typical right wing libertarian attitude of, "they made their money, fair and square, and govt shouldn't intervene," he's as irresponsible as other politicians, on that score. The corporations haven't made their money fair and square. They are part of an oligarchy that formed out of a judicial vacuum that formed when laws were simply ignored.
Understand, I think he has integrity and a lot of the right ideas. I am saying that people would end up hating him if he implemented them all, because it would hurt them...a lot.
Maia Gabrial
28th February 2013, 22:01
Humanalien,
The biggest deception that's been played on Americans is that the US govt is really a corporation.Pretenders. Liars. They have to keep up appearance or they'll be exposed. Of course they have to do something about what you mentioned. Or there'll be outrage. And that corporation doesn't want to be exposed. At least, not yet.
They have to pretend to be a govt until they can do what they've planned all along: to choke us with complete enslavement, laughing at our confusion. Aren't we seeing a completely out of control govt now? So many angry Americans are saying what they're doing is unConstitutional. And they arrogantly don't care....
I think all of our problems may stem from the fact that it's because they're a city/state AND a corporation. Doesn't it bother you that all this has been going on in front of our noses and never even knew it? Until now.... We've been lied to, humanalien. And it shouldn't sit well with any American....
humanalien
1st March 2013, 01:29
I hear ya Maia and it doesn't only bother me,
it's pissing me off.
I can't stand seeing my country(corporation)
going down the tubes and what hurts even
more is the fact that so many people either
don't know whats happening, they won't
admit that it's happening or they just don't
care.
How can we fix that? All the information that
they need to form an opinion on this is on
you tube for all to see but people would rather
watch their favorite movie star or something.
The only way to wake these people up is to have
your own cable channel and start broadcasting
what we need the people to know. Anyone got
a lot of money, to do that? lol
Cidersomerset
18th April 2013, 19:21
Ron Paul speaks at opening of Institute for Peace and Prosperity
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Published on 18 Apr 2013
Although Ron Paul retired from politics, he hasn't left the conversation: the former
Texas congressman has launched his new think tank -- an institute that will carry on his
ideals to the younger generations.
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Ron Paul launches Institute for Peace and Prosperity
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Published on 17 Apr 2013
For the first time since leaving office, Ron Paul returned to the spotlight this week. The
recently retired congressman launched a new foreign-policy educational effort from
Washington on Wednesday called the Institute for Peace and Prosperity. Some fellow
lawmakers past and present - including Walter Jones, Dennis Kucinich, John Duncan,
and Thomas Massie are on the Institute's board, and they are aiming to change more
than policy as RT's Meghan Lopez explains.
karamba
19th April 2013, 09:23
:hug::hug::hug: Peace! thank you for sharing!
Cidersomerset
15th June 2013, 13:07
Ron Paul: NSA Whistleblower Snowden in a 'Hero'
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Published on 10 Jun 2013
Former GOP Presidential candidate Ron Paul says the Obama administration's program
to collect data from Americans' phone calls is 'crazy' and that the president's claim that
the administration isn't listening to your phone calls is untrue.
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Ron Paul On CNN Destroys The NSA Over The Verizon Spying Scandal
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Ron Paul Blasts NSA Defenders On Piers Morgan: 'You're Justifying Dictatorship
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Published on 10 Jun 2013
"To all of you who defend this nonsense, what should the penalty be for those who
destroy the constitution?" - Ron Paul
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Cidersomerset
15th June 2013, 13:48
Ron Paul on Fox taking no 'crap'. !!
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Published on 11 Jun 2013
Towards the end of an outspoken 24 hours of media appearances, former Rep. Ron
Paul (R-TX) appeared via phone on Fox Business Network with Melissa Francis and
made a bold prediction about NSA leaker Edward Snowden's future. "I'm worried
about somebody in our government who might kill him, with a cruise missile or a
drone missile."
"We live in a bad time where American citizens don't even have rights and that they
can be killed," Paul continued. "But the gentleman is trying to tell the truth about
what's going on, he is not defecting, there's no signs of that happening. It's a
shame we're in an age where people who tell the truth about what the government
is doing gets into trouble."
Paul said he "absolutely" feels confident that Snowden has no intention of selling
more U.S. secrets to a foreign government as some have feared. "I don't think for a
minute that he is a traitor," Paul said. "Everybody is worried about him and what
they're going to do and how they will convict him of treason and how they're going
to kill him, but what about the people who destroy our Constitution? What kind of
penalty are those individuals who take the Second or the Fourth amendment and
destroy it? What do we think about people who assassinate American citizens
without trials and assume that's the law of the land? That's where our problem is."
When presented with the recent polling figures that show 56% of Americans
support the NSA's surveillance practices, Paul suggested those sentiments can be
attributed to "propaganda" along the lines of "if you're not for NSA spying on
people, then you're un-American, you're unpatriotic, you hate America."
Carmody
15th June 2013, 17:16
When presented with the recent polling figures that show 56% of Americans
support the NSA's surveillance practices, Paul suggested those sentiments can be
attributed to "propaganda" along the lines of "if you're not for NSA spying on
people, then you're un-American, you're unpatriotic, you hate America."
Is that like, corporate inspired 'polling'? who's polling was that? what lie was that, which was inserted into the story?
Be careful what you read.
You see, that, as a gentle-like, carefully crafted line like that...inserted into the story, is the thin red line that keeps people under control.
Cidersomerset
15th June 2013, 17:56
Is that like, corporate inspired 'polling'? who's polling was that? what lie was that, which was inserted into the story?
Be careful what you read.
You see, that, as a gentle-like, carefully crafted line like that...inserted into the story, is the thin red line that keeps people under control.
Your right I don't take much notice of statistics on most subjects or polls....
A guide at best, fraudulent spin doctoring lies at worst.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120226005511/westwing/images/thumb/f/f0/121.jpg/300px-121.jpg
ExomatrixTV
10th July 2013, 09:49
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Snookie
10th July 2013, 18:02
It would be great if his 30 minute pieces could be picked up by David Icke's The People's Voice channel.
ExomatrixTV
11th July 2013, 00:20
It would be great if his 30 minute pieces could be picked up by David Icke's The People's Voice channel.
agree 100% :)
Cidersomerset
18th November 2013, 16:42
I like Ron Paul and have heard some of his speeches of the last few years.
I noticed this vid while looking at something else and thought lets have a quick look
and was amazed how the interview mirrored todays financial and government state
of affairs. From insider dealing, political and military dominance, trilateral
committee, Bilderbergers, To the fact it was common knowledge that the banks
were laundering drug money with government compliance, and much more.
Definitely a fine man and would probably been a good president . Though
the 'Banksters' and elites would never have let that happen.
Ron Paul: The Power Elite -- Must See Classic Interview From 1988
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EYES WIDE OPEN
5th December 2013, 11:57
Greenspan Baffled Over Bitcoin 'Bubble': "To Be Worth Something, It Must Be Backed By Something"
"In order for currencies to be 'exchangeable' they have to be backed by something," is the remarkably ironic initial comment from none other than debaser-of-the-entirely-fiat-dollar Alan Greenspan when asked about the "bubble in bitcoin," by Bloomberg TV's Trish Regan. Unable to "identify the intrinsic" backing of Bitcoin (or see bubbles in equity, credit, real estate, or greater fools) Greenspan is, apparently, capable of identifying Bitcoin "as a bubble," because "there is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted." The farcical double-speak continues as the Maestro does a great job of making Bitcoin (which Ron Paul earlier noted could be the "destroyer of the dollar") look even better than the readily-printed fiat we meddle with every day.
Greenspan explains...
"when we were on the gold standard, [currencies] had intrinisc value which made people willing to exchange their goods and services with no question."
"Alternatively, when we went into "currencies", it was the "backing" of the issuer of the currencies... whose "great credit-standing meant his checks could circulate as money.""
So either its backed by real physical metal with intrinsic value - or the promise of someone...(increasingly politicians of course) with good credit (or a big army)?
"I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from. There is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted."
Like fiat currencies (just ask the Venezuelans)...
"Individuals with very high net worth and great reputations could create their own currency... because people would be willing to exchange their checks with each other at par."
So coming soon the BuffettCoin or MuskCoin (oh wait reputation), or the GatesCoin?
But, Greenspan sums it all up...
"I haven't been able to identfy the intrinsic value of Bitcoin - maybe someone else can...
but if you ask me if this is a bubble in bitcoin... yeah it's a bubble.
Which ironically (perfectly circular) is exactly what Bernanke said about gold...
BERNANKE SAYS `NOBODY REALLY UNDERSTANDS GOLD PRICES'
So - after that - go buy his book!?
And some more color from Ron Paul on Bitcoin as "destroyer of the US Dollar":
Via Mike Krieger's Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
While we believe it is the Federal Reserve that is systematically destroying the US dollar, Bitcoin could merely be the preferred conduit through which fed up citizens decide to express their displeasure with the incredibly corrupt corporatist-facist state being shoved down our throats by a handful of insane and greedy oligarchs. Interesting comments nonetheless. From CNN Money:
Imagine a world in which you can buy anything in secret. No banks. No fees. No worries inflation will make today’s money worth less tomorrow.
The digital currency Bitcoin promises all these things. And while it’s far from achieving any of them — its value is unstable and it’s rarely used — some have high hopes.
“There will be alternatives to the dollar, and this might be one of them,” said former U.S. congressman Ron Paul. If people start using bitcoins en masse, “it’ll go down in history as the destroyer of the dollar,” Paul added.
It’s unlikely that Bitcoin would replace the dollar or other government-controlled currencies. But it could serve as a kind of universal alternative currency that is accepted everywhere around the globe. Concerned about the dollar’s inflation? Just move your cash to bitcoins and use them to pay your bills instead. Tired of hefty credit card fees? Bitcoin allows transactions that bypass banks.
“That’s the holy grail for people who believe in freer markets and currency,” said Adam Gurri, a libertarian economics writer in New York.
There are no middlemen charging fees to move money between users. You can transfer bitcoins — even infinitesimally small fractions of one — directly to others’ digital wallets.
But don’t expect governments and banks to let Bitcoin take over so easily. Financial institutions will lose business if people stop using their payment systems, and central banks like the U.S. Federal Reserve would lose their ability to help slow and speed up economic activity. Paul expects banks to lobby and authorities to crack down.
“Governments absolutely demand a monopoly on money and credit. They’re not going to give it up easily,” Paul warned. “They will come down hard.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-04/greenspan-baffled-over-bitcoin-bubble-be-worth-something-it-must-be-backed-something
Lifebringer
5th December 2013, 12:21
Bit coin people have a right to spend their earning any ways they see fit. If the WS investment firms and banks are rigged, where they can borrow on our dime, then guess what?
No dimes, just bitcoin movement and life goes on. Even city circulation between population for merchandise by American Businesses and Mom and Pop entrepeneur start up, auto repairs and such. The possibilities are endless.
ponda
5th December 2013, 12:32
Interestingly there has been no real apparent effort to try to shutdown Bit Coin by the powers who think they are.Wonder why this is ??
Flash
5th December 2013, 13:27
This is funny, we have been told that there would be an international unique currency, done by PTB, that our money would be entirely electronic and controllable by PTB, and here we are with bitcoins.
Although actually they are more managed by mafias of all kinds and have been stolen in mass last week, they are at least not controlled by a central government. I am not sure of that at all.
I do have the impression that we are driven head first into the electronic new currency that is in fact one single international currency as well, and we are enjoying it because it is not controlled by the banks???!!! We are in for a surprise I think.
Anyhow, we also learned that is was easy to steal.
If Bernanke - sorry Greenspan, ask once again on what it is based, we could answer we took example on the US dollar, based on hot air.
Hervé
5th December 2013, 14:02
This is funny, we have been told that there would be an international unique currency, done by PTB, that our money would be entirely electronic and controllable by PTB, and here we are with bitcoins.
Although actually they are more managed by mafias of all kinds and have been stolen in mass last week, they are at least not controlled by a central government. I am not sure of that at all.
I do have the impression that we are driven head first into the electronic new currency that is in fact one single international currency as well, and we are enjoying it because it is not controlled by the banks???!!! We are in for a surprise I think.
Anyhow, we also learned that is was easy to steal.
If Bernanke - sorry Greenspan, ask once again on what it is based, we could answer we took example on the US dollar, based on hot air.
Amen!!!
Controlled opposition anyone?
... :
From: http://henrymakow.com/confessions_of_a_dupe_me.html :
[...]
YOUNG MAN IN SEARCH OF IDENTITY
I was 18 in 1968 and "looking for my identity." I was looking for it because they had taken away God and religion. They had taken away gender (masculinity) and family. Naively, I sought my identity in "community." First, I investigated Israel but sensed something wrong with Zionism. Then I devoted myself to Canadian nationalism, majoring in Canadian literature. Little did I suspect I was joining a phony opposition.
In the wake of the 1988 election over North American free trade, I attended a conference of Left-leaning nationalist groups in Ottawa. We had lost. The purpose was to decide on the strategy going forward.
Three things struck me as odd.
1) Fellow organizers here in Winnipeg, who were actually Communists who infiltrated the labor movement, didn't want me to go. I was puzzled that sincere activists wouldn't want to include all the talent (or even money) they could find.
2) I was struck by the demeanor of the leftist professors and activists at the Conference. They didn't seem angry or disappointed by our loss. Quite the opposite. There was a palpable sense of smug satisfaction. They liked their "performance" and were content to return to misleading naive students. These pious people make over $100K "championing the poor" and "fighting the establishment."
Finally,
3) During the meeting I suggested some militant actions to continue the fight against free trade. The chair of the meeting, Maude Barlow, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maude_Barlow) who is still the chair of the "Council of Canadians" verbally sidelined me by promising to discuss the matter personally later. She never sought me out.
http://www.henrymakow.com/barlow.jpg
Maude Barlow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maude_Barlow)
When I approached her, she said she was busy. l had been "finessed" by a pro.
CONCLUSIONS
Clearly the liberal and socialist "left" is part of the phony opposition. They don't represent the people. They are Masons and part of the Masonic two-step leading to banker world government. The "establishment" is complicit in the enslavement of society.
Similarly in the US and Europe, all political parties are run by Masons and ruled by the Rothschild cartel. I doubt if any individual or group gains visibility unless they are puppets.
Our political and cultural life can be compared to the movie "The Truman Show." We are the Jim Carrey character. Everything is orchestrated and "under control."
Certainly Ron Paul (http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2007/11/ron-pauls-presidential-bid/)fits the category of phony opposition. He is a Mason. His wife is a Mason, Eastern Star. His daughters are Masons, Rainbow girls.
The John Birch Society does great research but apparently they were started by the Rockefellers who gave the founder a sweet deal for his grape juice company.
The purpose of the phony opposition is to co-opt the opposition and discourage any genuine grass roots political movement from starting. Their mission also is to fight trivial battles and distract us from the stealth establishment of world government. Remember the year the Republicans spent trying to impeach Bill Clinton over Monica Lewinski? Government ground to a halt.
Do we have any real leaders? You can recognize them if they are marginalized and anathema to the mass media. Our real leaders are the people they slander, bankrupt and imprison or kill.
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My source on Canadian Nationalism: "Rockefeller, Rothschild and Mel Hurtig: An Examination of the Committee for an Independent Canada"
a 1972 article by "The Canadian League of Rights."
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Maude Barlow's UN Agenda (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/maude-barlow-named-1st-un-water-adviser-1.766537)
http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/paulreagan.jpeg
(Ron Paul in the checkered pants, in the 1980's.)
First Comment from Dan:
They've reduced nationalist consciousness to the level of sports. Franklin Roosevelt liked to refer to himself as 'the quarterback'.
What a joke - to learn that Ron Paul's wife and daughters are Eastern Star. I remember an internet radio host asked him point blank, "have you ever been a member of a secret society?" That was 2007. Ron gave a little laugh and said, "I was a member of a fraternity in college, but that was just more like playing pranks on each other and horsing around". That's not exactly an honest answer, but it sounds like one.
Now I see that the talk show host was in on it, because the way he asked the question left room to dodge giving an answer. I really don't think Ron or any politicians goes on cold interviews. Their handlers will require a list of the questions so they can prepare answers. A media entertainer is in the position of weakness because they want to get hot or controversial names on their show.
Later I saw a video of Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr's TV show back in 1988 when he was that year's Libertarian candidate. Aside from being two decades younger, he displayed a completely different personality. He was aggressive and hostile. Too much contrast with the Ron Paul RELOVELUTION of the recent past. He definitely playing a character, just like an actor. [1]
Ron was a pied piper who made people think he was a nationalist Constitutionalist when he's really a disciple of Ayn Rand. Rand was Rothschild propagandist. Next time you see a bumper sticker that says "WHO IS JOHN GALT?" you'll know it was Philip Rothschild. Rand was groomed by him before she was sent to America to preach the Rothschild evangel, with The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged.
I was always the skeptical devil's advocate about so many conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds, But when it was revealed that Ron Paul named his son after Ayn Rand, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.
[1] Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. - 1988 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCxDrfs4GtM)
indigopete
14th December 2013, 10:48
This is funny, we have been told that there would be an international unique currency, done by PTB, that our money would be entirely electronic and controllable by PTB, and here we are with bitcoins.
Although actually they are more managed by mafias of all kinds and have been stolen in mass last week, they are at least not controlled by a central government. I am not sure of that at all.
There isn't any problem with electronic money "per-se".
The reason people associate electronic money with TPTB attempts to centralise everything is because at the moment, most of the so called "M3" layer in the money supply (that's the 'levered' part that's subject to fractional reserve lending) is electronic. But it's not the fact that it's electronic that makes us vulnerable, it's the fact that it's centralised first and levered second. That allows us to buy into a scam which can then be crashed on us all at any moment and have everyone turned into debt slaves.
Cryptocurrencies, on the other hand, are unlevered - if you as a holder have direct access to the so called "blockchain". The huge difference that cryptocurrencies have is that a massive authority like the Federal reserve has just the same access as a public joe. So it's a huge leveller.
Maybe you need to try it out and see how it works before drawing your conclusions, but there are also precedents to look at. TPTB weren't able to shutdown music and file sharing when they closed down Napster. Similarly they will not be able to shutdown a cryptocurrency - even if they regulate the exchanges. Cryptocurrency servers are like a virus - you shutdown a thousand of them, another thousand pop up somewhere else. Even is TPTB bought up all the Bitcoins in existence, they would just become worthless and another cryptocurrency would appear (there are already over 50 of them).
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