View Full Version : How do we know our Purpose in life?
Kiki
2nd January 2012, 19:09
Hello all!
Firstly happy 2012 Avalonians! I don't know if this question has been asked before, if yes sorry I missed the thread! I'm reading and reading and listening as carefully as I can to find out what is going on around me and within me...
I was told that confusion was in the path of all this new information, I'm exhausted with all I hear and learn and wonder if it ever become clearer?
Some know why the're here on planet earth... I have no idea how to find out what my purpose is. I feel as if I'm stuck in a maze.
If anyone can help solve this puzzled mind of mine please feel free, and share !!
Bless you all
Thanks for reading
Kiki
aranuk
2nd January 2012, 19:13
Have you had an astrology chart done and explained?
Stan
Tony
2nd January 2012, 19:13
Hello Kiki!
You are here to realise your true nature. It is that simple...;)
Tony
Jenci
2nd January 2012, 19:26
Hi Kiki,
Like Tony said, you are here to realise your true nature. When you do, there are no more questions as to why you are here.
Check out the spirituality forum - there is plenty of help there with this.
Our true nature is the most simplest of things ........and yet it seems to be hidden very well from us.
Jeanette
FutureHumanDestiny
2nd January 2012, 19:51
no one can tell you who you are.
you are a spiritual person with a particular history, and an individual, purpose and destiny.
the world can not tell you who you are. only you can decide that. perhaps you already have?
kingmonkey
2nd January 2012, 20:24
I used to wrestle with this idea almost daily in my early twenties to the point it would cause me endless suffering, seeking the perfect spiritual path or the perfect career.
I thought id one day "find my purpose" or "know my purpose". I never did though. I still wonder everynow and then but i let go of the needing to know. How many people do you know that actually know what their purpose are.
Sure there are people living a life of purpose or with purpose but did they find it or create it. What im trying to say is do people have some kind of epithany, one day of darkness followed by revelation of ones purpose? I believe this is rare. I believe that a life is an ongoing creation, evolving and twisting and turning.
Victor Frankl in his book Man's search for meaning found that the ones who survived and sometimes thrived in the Holocaust prision camps were the ones who found or rather chose to find meaning in each moment. A moment of gratitude or the smallest act of compassion were literally lifesavers. His main point was that life was a conscious choice; one gave meaning to the moment rather than the external events dictating the individual. This is freedom.
What i think i am trying to get at is that the search for a purpose can actually get in the way of finding purpose if you get me. You can find purpose in any situation.
Another great book more related to this issue is called What should i do do with my life by Po Bronson. Its not a generic average self help book and definitely does not offer any answers, more so solace in understanding that this is a fundamental question that many people ask. The author interviewed 100s of people who had struggled to find the right career. He becomes close friends with many of the people and tells their individual stories. He finds that many people spend a long time and make many mistakes and compromises before they are finally settled. Very few people had a clear epiphany that told them what to do. More common were vague unclear ideas and intuitions that were often impeded with self doubts, financial doubts and family objections. Its a great read and helped my young twenty self realise that there are no straight lines in nature and its perfectly okay to change course in ones life.
http://www.pobronson.com/WSIDWML_Debbie_Brient.htm
Lastly i think in the absence of knowing ones purpose, its a case of continually re-aligning our interests and activities towards ones that bring us satisfaction or joy. Im sure this is the only sure fire way of living a meaingful way.
As joseph cambell wrote "follow your bliss".
(note to self "follow your bliss")
another bob
2nd January 2012, 20:55
I'm exhausted with all I hear and learn and wonder if it ever become clearer?
Some know why the're here on planet earth... I have no idea how to find out what my purpose is. I feel as if I'm stuck in a maze.
If anyone can help solve this puzzled mind of mine please feel free, and share !!
Bless you all
Thanks for reading
Kiki
Blessings to you too, Friend!
Here's an experiment you might try:
Explore how it would feel to
let go of the need to figure it all out,
to let go of the need to know, to have some answer
that permanently satisfies the discursive mind,
to let go of the concept of purpose,
of "why",
to let go of the exhaustive search for
the one looking out through your own eyes.
Instead, just love for no reason . . . everything!
"Be just what you is, and not what you is not --
folks that does that is the happiest lot!"
:yo:
Deega
2nd January 2012, 21:00
Hello all!
Firstly happy 2012 Avalonians! I don't know if this question has been asked before, if yes sorry I missed the thread! I'm reading and reading and listening as carefully as I can to find out what is going on around me and within me...
I was told that confusion was in the path of all this new information, I'm exhausted with all I hear and learn and wonder if it ever become clearer?
Some know why the're here on planet earth... I have no idea how to find out what my purpose is. I feel as if I'm stuck in a maze.
If anyone can help solve this puzzled mind of mine please feel free, and share !!
Bless you all
Thanks for reading
Kiki
Thanks Kiki for this challenging Tread,
If you follow the logic of New Age Religion, spirit beings (guides) have worked with your spirit to decide what should be your next challenge in this life. And then, you feel that you池e part of this life in your early youth. Then, you live your life as your purpose.
If this reasoning is valid, you should be able to search by means of regression what it was that you, with your spirit guides, have prepared for your awakening in this life.
And the author Anton Park would add that we, in the spirit world, are part of a celestial family (not our immediate family) that have a purpose also. And each member of the family progress in a life time to a new level of consciousness, and reach the purpose of that celestial body. And when all the members do reach the level they should attain, the celestial family migrate to another light level. If this is true also, then, it would sound interesting. I'm not sure if it helps in your search somehow...?
The best to you.
Deega
toad
2nd January 2012, 21:47
I think therefore I am, I question therefore I know, I know therefore I question. My purpose in life is to live, create, and enjoy myself, when possible help others to do the same.
confident824
2nd January 2012, 22:43
"Your only purpose in life is to be "You", to the best of your ability."
The hard part is finding out who "You", really are. Especially, in a society that says being "You", is not good enough.
NewFounderHome
3rd January 2012, 01:36
Hello all!
Firstly happy 2012 Avalonians! I don't know if this question has been asked before, if yes sorry I missed the thread! I'm reading and reading and listening as carefully as I can to find out what is going on around me and within me...
I was told that confusion was in the path of all this new information, I'm exhausted with all I hear and learn and wonder if it ever become clearer?
Some know why the're here on planet earth... I have no idea how to find out what my purpose is. I feel as if I'm stuck in a maze.
If anyone can help solve this puzzled mind of mine please feel free, and share !!
Bless you all
Thanks for reading
Kiki
Hello Kiki,
I appreciate very much your question and your interrogation. I'm exactly in the same situation. I知 trying to find out why I知 here and what I should be doing. I知 getting the following answers, read this and read that or do this and do that but with no proof or validation. There are many that offer solutions but it doesn稚 give me my answer.
I知 under the felling then I should prove and confirm it to myself and only then I will know.
I might be off track, but to follow the well intentioned comments from a book or a guru seems to be the same paths of the many past centuries.
I知 just hoping then we will all find our answers.
WhiteFeather
3rd January 2012, 01:50
You will know it, when it starts to feel right from inside. Experiment with everything, till you find what resonates with you, and then keep experimenting again.
jorr lundstrom
3rd January 2012, 02:00
Well........................................LOL
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/Gaiaochblklint.jpg
andrewgreen
3rd January 2012, 02:40
Great answer!
、=[Post Update]=、
'I think therefore I am, I question therefore I know, I know therefore I question. My purpose in life is to live, create, and enjoy myself, when possible help others to do the same.''
Great answer in reference to Toad.
kingmonkey
3rd January 2012, 02:40
Hello all!
Firstly happy 2012 Avalonians! I don't know if this question has been asked before, if yes sorry I missed the thread! I'm reading and reading and listening as carefully as I can to find out what is going on around me and within me...
I was told that confusion was in the path of all this new information, I'm exhausted with all I hear and learn and wonder if it ever become clearer?
Some know why the're here on planet earth... I have no idea how to find out what my purpose is. I feel as if I'm stuck in a maze.
If anyone can help solve this puzzled mind of mine please feel free, and share !!
Bless you all
Thanks for reading
Kiki
Hello Kiki,
I appreciate very much your question and your interrogation. I'm exactly in the same situation. I知 trying to find out why I知 here and what I should be doing. I知 getting the following answers, read this and read that or do this and do that but with no proof or validation. There are many that offer solutions but it doesn稚 give me my answer.
I知 under the felling then I should prove and confirm it to myself and only then I will know.
I might be off track, but to follow the well intentioned comments from a book or a guru seems to be the same paths of the many past centuries.
I知 just hoping then we will all find our answers.
I guess the point is that you cannot seek the path from anything external. The books i recommended ironically all state the fact that finding ones purpose is an individual pursuit. Yes i too was in the same boat and still am to some extent. Most of us here i would assume would identify as being seekers. But its my feeling that it can be a trap to stay in the seeking mode. Real like is here and now.
Nothing external can ever tell you what to do. Books, literature, philospophy , art can only ever be in resonance with what is inside.
Of course any words i write here will only merely sound like hollow empty constructs.
Every human on this planet has to struggle with this question at some point.
another bob
3rd January 2012, 03:01
Every human on this planet has to struggle with this question at some point.
http://www.pbase.com/1heart/image/73485128
:yo:
Alekahn
3rd January 2012, 03:31
I feel it safe to say that everyone here has either asked this potent question or is in process of asking it...or both. Perhaps it may be useful to reframe your question, exploring what your core intentions are, the deepest desires of your heart, what is essential to you. To what do you most aspire? Much good 'advice' thus far from Avalonians. I like what pie'n'eal said..."it is that simple", it is also that complex. I would also second aranuks suggestion about utilizing the tool of astrology if, and only if, you feel so inclined. Recognizing that astrology is one tool among many, there is a branch of astrology that uses the moon's nodes to explore karmic aspects of our being...what we have brought into this current incarnation and the direction towards which we are moving (the path of our soul).
There are an abundance of 'tools' to aid us and some will definitely resonate more than others as you continue to ask (and ask and ask again) and refine your question...or...let go of it altogether and take a break from the asking as has been mentioned. There are, in the end, no 'solutions', you are the puzzle master and a mysterious process unfolding in a dynamic time in evolution...and are co-creating at this very moment, the answers to your heartfelt question. I fully understand your exhaustion, confusion, feeling as if you are in a maze...you are in most excellent company here. Whenever possible, spend some time in and amongst the kingdoms of nature...and listen. Feel, deeply feel, what it would be like to know your true self and your purpose/mission. Remember to be gentle with yourself. Blessings
"Ask without hidden motive
and be surrounded by your answer.
Be enveloped by what you desire
that your gladness be full,
and give thanks"
KiwiElf
3rd January 2012, 03:33
Follow your excitement... that which excites you the most - with integrity - and BE the best "you" that you can be :)
aranuk
3rd January 2012, 03:36
I can give you this advice, that what you are doing is just fine at the moment. Perfect in fact. Nothing to worry about Kiki. If you feel like **** that is good. If you feel awkward that is good , in fact however you feel it is good.
Stan
Jeremy
3rd January 2012, 04:48
I liked this explanation. It's been translated from spanish to english though so the grammar is a little weird.
What is my mission?
THIS QUESTION IS NOW ON EVERYONE'S LIPS, FROM CHILDREN TO SENIORS LOOKING FOR THEIR MISSION.
IT IS A DILEMMA THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON HUMANITY SINCE ITS BEGINNINGS.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF MY LIFE? WHAT ROLE DOES THIS ALL? HOW IMPORTANT DO I HAVE IN THIS UNIVERSE, THOUGH I AM SO SMALL?
EVERYONE HAS A PURPOSE ... EACH SEED, BIRD, ANIMAL, EVERY HUMAN, EVERY CELL AND STAR HAVE A PURPOSE FOR WHICH THEY EXIST. THE VERY EXISTENCE IS A PURPOSE: THE MOVEMENT, HOWEVER ABSURD IT MAY SEEM, THE PURPOSE THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER IS THE CONSTANT MOVEMENT, YOU SHOULD NEVER STOP, YOU NEED OUR VERY NATURE, OUR DREAMS DRIVE US IN THE MOMENTS WHEN WE GET STUCK. WHEN LIFE HAS BROUGHT SOMEONE TO A MONOTONOUS OFFICE LIFE, WHICH KNOWS THAT IT IS THEIR REALITY, THEIR DREAMS ARE THOSE WHO SHOW THEIR PURPOSE.
OUR SKILLS, WHAT THEY ARE GOOD, OUR HOBBIES, OUR IDEAS, EVEN CRAZY THEY ARE, THESE ISSUES ARE THE ONES STUCK IN OUR GENETICS AND PERSONALITY, WHICH LEAD US TO OUR INDIVIDUAL PURPOSE. WE MUST HEED WHAT WE KNOW AND HAVE AS SKILLS, THEY ARE THE WAY TO OUR REALIZATION.
THE MISSION IS NOT A JOB TO DO, MANY TIMES WE BELIEVE THAT OUR MISSION CAN BE HARD, OR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AGREED ... BUT ACTUALLY, IT IS OUR OWN FULFILLMENT AS HUMAN BEINGS. IN THE PROCESS OF CARRYING OUT OUR MISSION, LIFE TEACHES US THE TOOLS WITH WHICH TO ACHIEVE IT.
WHAT ARE THESE TOOLS?
WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF TOOLS TO ACHIEVE THE FULFILLMENT OF OUR MISSION: THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE . BOTH WILL HELP.
THE POSITIVES ARE THE ONES I MENTIONED BEFORE, OUR SKILLS, OUR HOBBIES, WHAT WE LIKE OR WHAT WE ARE GOOD. THIS BRINGS US TO THE MISSION, BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT ALL THAT COME TO MAKE THE WORLD, IS RELATED TO WHAT MAKES US HAPPY. SOCIETY OFTEN PUNISH OR CRITICIZE THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEIR SKILLS, AS CAPITALIST OR COMMUNIST SOCIETY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT THE EFFORT WHICH THE HUMAN NATURE IS SUBJECT, THE IDEA WAS ALWAYS THAT WE HAD TO WORK WITH SWEAT OF THE BROW TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING ... BUT WE ALL KNEW WELL THAT'S JUST PART OF LEARNING, AND THAT OUR PURPOSE IS NOT ACHIEVED WITH SWEAT, BUT WITH JOY.
THE NEGATIVES ARE OUR KARMAS, THE THINGS WE FACE THAT WE DISLIKE. HAVING TO WORK AT SITES WHICH DO NOT MEET THE PURPOSE, TO BE IN ENVIRONMENTS WITH PEOPLE WE DESPISE OR DEVALUE, TO HELP WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE REASON, SUFFER A LIFE OF CONSTANT LOSSES OR SEPARATIONS ... ALL THESE SHORT-TERM NEGATIVE ASPECTS ARE POSITIVE LONG-TERM ... IS WHAT WE CALL: PREPARATION. BEING UGLY SITUATIONS, ENGAGE IN WORK WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING, THIS ENABLES US TO FACE THE ADVERSITIES THAT THEY UNDERSTAND OUR MISSION. WE MUST BE ATTENTIVE TO IT, FOR US TO DO MUCH GOOD CONSCIOUS ... THINK, WHAT I GET OUT OF THIS SITUATION? WHAT DID I LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE? WHAT GIVES ME THIS JOB OR RELATIONSHIP?
EVERYTHING IS A CONSTANT LEARNING AND A PREPARATION FOR THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE MISSION ... BUT THE CRAZIEST OF THIS MEET ... IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU'RE AWARE THAT I DID.
OF COURSE, WHEN ONE IS AWARE OF ITS PURPOSES, WE ARE ALREADY IN A EVOLUTIONARY LEVEL MORE FLEXIBLE, MORE SUBTLE. KNOWING THE INDIVIDUAL MISSION IS IMPORTANT TO OUR PERFORMANCE AS INDIVIDUALS.
IS IT GOOD TO KNOW MY MISSION?
SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF KNOWING WHAT THE MISSION.
THE POSITIVE, AS I SAID, YOU POSITIONED IN A FLEXIBLE LEVEL OF EVOLUTION, IN WHICH YOU REALIZE THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS YOU READY FOR THIS ROLE YOU CAME TO DO. YOU ARE ATTENTIVE AND WILLING TO THESE SITUATIONS.
THE NEXT NEGATIVE IS THAT WHEN ONE RECOGNIZES ITS MISSION, ITS REALIZATION IS PENDING ... AND OFTEN IT BRINGS PROBLEMS. WANT TO HAPPEN AS, FORWARD-TIME, THE ACTIONS ... COMES THE ANGUISH AND DESPAIR, BECAUSE THINGS DO NOT GO AS THEY EXPECTED, AND THE FRUSTRATION INVADES THE BODY. SEE THE CONTEXT AND CRAZY TO SEE THE NEAR IMPOSSIBILITY OF THEIR MISSION, AND ALMOST ENDS UP NOT COMPLY.
SO ... HOW TO ACCOMPLISH MY MISSION?
IN FACT, THE MISSION IS ACCOMPLISHED EASILY: LIVING .
DESPREOCレPENSE ITS MISSION.
LONG AGO, BEFORE BIRTH, ALL, EACH ONE OF YOU, MET WITH A GROUP OF SOULS, BEINGS, GUIDES AND TEACHERS WHO DISCUSSED THEIR MISSION, THEY ARE THERE TO HELP IN CARRYING OUT THE SAME ... HOW? THROUGH "DEJA VU" OF SIGNS, WORDS, MOVIES, BOOKS, POSTERS EVEN ... WHAT IS MY POINT? MANY PEOPLE MEET THEIR MISSION AND DIE WITHOUT KNOWING THAT HE HAS DONE IT ... HOWEVER, HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO.
IT'S A HOTBED OF NEW AGE IDEALS THAT WERE SEIZED, BUT NOT BEING IN THE COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS, DID NOT .
OUR MAIN TOOL TODAY UNLIKE YESTERDAY, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A MISSION THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO COMPLY . WHICH DID NOT KNOW BEFORE, BUT HOWEVER, WERE MET BY THE UNCONSCIOUS AND SUBCONSCIOUS. NO MATTER WHAT OUR MISSION, THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO WATCH FOR THE SIGNS THAT LEAD US TO FULFILLMENT .
THINK ABOUT THIS ... WELL THERE ARE MANY WHO ARE CONNECTED OR THAT ARE ALREADY CONNECTED, AND THAT BETWEEN 5 YEARS AND 20 YEARS AND KNOW THEIR MISSION, BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW IS STARTING TO MATERIALIZE YOUR 45 OR 60 YEARS OLD ... WELL ... WHILE FRUSTRATED WITH LIFE ITSELF AND ENTER INTO ANGER OR SADNESS. FOR THIS REASON, MY ADVICE IS:
WE DO NOT LIVE TO FULFILL OUR MISSION ... OUR MISSION IS TO LIVE. ENJOY EVERY MOMENT OF LIFE, BEING AWARE THAT THEIR LIVES ARE AN IMPORTANT LINK TO BE MOVED. DO NOT STOP TO LOOK AND SEARCH FOR THE PURPOSE OF YOUR LIFE, JUST LIVE, STAY TUNED, AND FIND PURPOSE.
CONTINUE TO INSIST:
"... WE DO NOT LIVE BY OUR MISSION, OUR MISSION IS TO LIVE ...
... DO NOT LOOK FOR THE PURPOSE OF YOUR LIFE, FIND IT IN THE LIVING ... "
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