The Truth about Global Warming and our Earths gases

[Vitalux]

Folks let me first state that what I am about to tell you, you probably have never heard before, and probably wont believe.

Our Planet does not get it's oxygen from the biological processes from our planet.
The trees our not responsible for our planets oxygen supply.
The oceans are not responsible for our planets oxygen supply.

Everything that you have been taught has been false.

Our planet gets it's relative supply and concentrations of atmosphere from our Sun.

This planet (along with all other planets) is orbiting in the Suns atmosphere.

Similar to standing by a campfire, we are breathing the fumes that are kicked out by our solar stars nuclear processes.

That is why, for the past two or so billion years, our planets gases have been fairly constant and always move back to the same equilibrium after major global disasters.

Think about it.

-The only thing that creates oxygen atoms is a solar star.

So much disinformation and brainwashing has been taught to our masses that our understanding of science is still extremely primitive. The fact that our planets gasses come directly from space (rather than biologically produced) has kept us in the dark in terms of understanding how prevalent life is about all above us in space and our solar system.


Everything that you have been told about global warming is just a hoax.

[wolf_rt]

I know everything i have been told about global warming is a hoax...

But are you suggesting that the planet doesn't go through cyclical changes? ie. Ice ages?

[G.A]

This would suggest that there is a constant flow of oxygen being pumped into the "vacuum" of space around the sun. Do you think there would be measurable amounts of oxygen in space (in our solar system)outside of earths atmosphere and on other planets?

[DreamsInDigital]

Heck, we even get our gravitational field from the Sun. Through the radiation waves.

I think we've gone through ice ages Wolf, but not in the way that the general masses have been taught. The history taught to the general masses is a very scaled down cliff notes version of our true history with a lot of important facts etc removed.

[wolf_rt]

This would suggest that there is a constant flow of oxygen being pumped into the "vacuum" of space around the sun. Do you think there would be measurable amounts of oxygen in space (in our solar system)outside of earths atmosphere and on other planets?

It would also suggest there is breathable atmosphere on mars and the moon?

[andrewgreen]

Im sure the science weve been told is wrong like most other things that the education research establishments teach. Lets hope we can move into a new era of truth.

[Vitalux]

This would suggest that there is a constant flow of oxygen being pumped into the "vacuum" of space around the sun. Do you think there would be measurable amounts of oxygen in space (in our solar system)outside of earths atmosphere and on other planets?

It would also suggest there is breathable atmosphere on mars and the moon?


yes that is quite correct.
Relative atmospheric pressure would be related to the gravitational pull of each planet.

Venus would have the same atmosphere as our planet.

here are a few common sense things to consider that you don't need to have a background in chemistry and physics to understand.

1. We were told that the trees give us our breathable oxygen ( and along with the plant life)

Now lets consider that in order for any life form to remove carbon from the atmosphere they have to store it in the leaves and body of the plant.
When the leaves fall off the plant, or when the plant dies, all the carbon is re-released.

75% of our planet is Ocean which means only 25% is land.
How much of the 25% is capable of growing trees.

consider the area of land under ice.
consider the area of land that is desert.
consider the area of land which has permafrost.

The amount of land on the planet capable of giving us forest all year round is less than 7% of the earth surface.

Does it make sense that with only 7% of vegetation it can provide a constant supply and level of planet gases?

Next ....Most of the living things on this planet produce carbon rather than oxygen.

The oceans do aid in production of gases but the oceans produce water vapor which is directly responsible for global warming.
Global warming is a direct result of the interaction of our Suns activity and the degree of water vapor of our solar sun.


To make sense of it all, just consider that like an airplane flies up around the earth in the earths atmosphere, our planet revolves around the sun in the suns atmosphere.

Why this is not taught in mainstream science I have no clue.
It was taught to me by a physics teacher years ago in college during a lecture about astronomy.
I was taking environmental science and hit was that professors position that the science we were being taught was nonsense.

Actually it was the influence of this professor that made me start to question the whole educational system.
He also was the first advocate that I had encountered that said NASA hoaxed the whole moon landing.

It's amazing how many people are still sucked in on that was and still wont drop their gullibility on that one.

[Vitalux]

This would suggest that there is a constant flow of oxygen being pumped into the "vacuum" of space around the sun. Do you think there would be measurable amounts of oxygen in space (in our solar system)outside of earths atmosphere and on other planets?

Yes it would be measurable.
However bear in mind that the density would be small relative to our atmosphere.
But the question is, those in a position to have the equipment capable of measuring it, would not make that information public.

For example:

I live in Oshawa Ontario Canada.
I live right between to very large Nuclear Power plants. : Pickering Nuclear Generating station and Darlington Nuclear Station.

We have a major college and University right here in Oshawa.
What do you think the odds of ....that students studying at the University or College have access to a geiger counter?

Back in the 1970's there was on at the college and a group of students (they had a school technology club) took it out and discovered abnormally high radiation levels around the lake near the power plant.
result: device taken away and the students told to shut up and dissolved the school technology club.

The educational system does not enlighten, they only keep us dim witted.

[wolf_rt]

is the supply of gasses constant though?

what do you make of this thread?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?37317-The-Air-that-We-Breathe

[G.A]

I like the perspective that we are in the suns atmosphere. I had never heard it said like that before but it would make sense that such a large and hot object like our sun would have an expansive atmosphere.

However, it is my understanding that marine plants are responsible for 70-80% of the oxygen produced in our atmosphere. Your statement which reads "The oceans do aid in production of gases but the oceans produce water vapor which is directly responsible for global warming.
Global warming is a direct result of the interaction of our Suns activity and the degree of water vapor of our solar sun." is unclear to me. Mind elaborating?

[Arrowwind]

So is all this your hypothesis or do you have some scientific papers to offer? Any references at all?
My understanding it that planton and algae make most of the oxygen.
Oxygen is quite explosive so how can oxygen be close to the sun?

[G.A]

So is all this your hypothesis or do you have some scientific papers to offer? Any references at all?
My understanding it that planton and algae make most of the oxygen.
Oxygen is quite explosive so how can oxygen be close to the sun?

I learned that oxygen, along with other elements, was created by a dying star. I am curious to see OPs response to this as well.

[13th Warrior]

Interesting theory but, you'll have to provide me a more in depth explanation backed by scientific data before I'd consider accepting this possibility...

Correct me if I'm wrong; this theory is based upon the fact that the sun's energy is created via nuclear reaction?

[Vitalux]

So is all this your hypothesis or do you have some scientific papers to offer? Any references at all?
My understanding it that planton and algae make most of the oxygen.
Oxygen is quite explosive so how can oxygen be close to the sun?

Oxygen atoms ....are only created by stars.

The oxygen that is abundant all around you,.....O2.....is being produced at a constant and steady rate by our sun.


No plants...no other processes here on this planet creates the oxygen atom.

Think.....where did the oxygen atoms come from?

[Vitalux]

So is all this your hypothesis or do you have some scientific papers to offer? Any references at all?
My understanding it that planton and algae make most of the oxygen.
Oxygen is quite explosive so how can oxygen be close to the sun?


Think about it for a moment. When you exhale gas from your lungs it still contains oxygen, do you have to worry about your breath catching fire in an open flame?

The theory that I proposes is not my hypothesis. There is information out there, you just have to research it and you will find it.
The information is just not part of mainstream education.
They teach instead that plants make oxygen to young naive minds who seldom if ever THINK.

Someone believing that plants make oxygen would equate to believing that Santa Clause really exists and makes presents at the North Pole.

[ThePythonicCow]

Oxygen atoms ....are only created by stars.

The oxygen that is abundant all around you,.....O2.....is being produced at a constant and steady rate by our sun.


No plants...no other processes here on this planet creates the oxygen atom.

Think.....where did the oxygen atoms come from?

Please don't confuse oxygen atoms with free oxygen in the particular form of an atmospheric gas.

Yes, stars create oxygen atoms (according to our current "standard" science.)

Yes, plants liberate oxygen from it's bound forms, such as in carbon dioxide, and release free oxygen, which we animals depend on.

[Vitalux]

So is all this your hypothesis or do you have some scientific papers to offer? Any references at all?
My understanding it that planton and algae make most of the oxygen.
Oxygen is quite explosive so how can oxygen be close to the sun?

I learned that oxygen, along with other elements, was created by a dying star. I am curious to see OPs response to this as well.

A star is a fusion reactor. Depending on the size of the star, It processes involves the steady creation by a nuclear forces of elements such as: oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, calcium and phosphorus.

If you notice those are the first five major elements that make up the human body, hydrogen being the sixth.

Even if I was to offer you papers on it, would you really change your belief ...you see....you have already been brainwashed into believing a false science.
In an analogy......you can see how easy it was once for the church to educate common folk that the world was flat.
Now you can understand that even when someone tried to tell them, the world was not flat....few, if any would believe it.


Arrogance keeps humans thinking that we have been told the truth about science.
Wake up, we have been lied to about most of what we think we know.

[Vitalux]

Global warming is a direct result of the interaction of our Suns activity and the degree of water vapor of our solar sun.[/I]" is unclear to me. Mind elaborating?

Do some research and you will find clear evidence to support this statement. Environmental scientist clearly understand this.
Once again, Bad science has brainwashed people into believing carbon causes global warming, which is total nonsense.
However, the hardest thing to do is to try and unbrainwash someone once they have been conditioned to believe false science.

Come on man look at how many fools believe NASA landed men on the moon in 1969.
The whole educational and media supports the moon landing so everyone goes along to get along. Regardless of faked videos, a flag blowing in the wind on the moon, and millions of other facts of science which screams hoax, people ignore and dismiss these things and believe their media masters of reality.

[Lifebringer]

It's happening now as planets that didn't have an atmospheric electromagnetic field, they are now starting to show signs of it. Perhaps those other planets that are larger will "genesis into one" as the sun expands and releases more gases frozen on them. Perhaps during the transition where time stops, and no one ages, a million or billion of years go by as the planets also transition for oxygenated atmosphere?

Just wondering and eager to know, since they've been saying the population is too large for this planet, perhaps God will give US a bigger one, provided we can get along with NOT only our human bretheren, but also our Stellar family.

[wolf_rt]

In an analogy......you can see how easy it was once for the church to educate common folk that the world was flat.
Now you can understand that even when someone tried to tell them, the world was not flat....few, if any would believe it..

That is until somebody proved it...

[Dorjezigzag]

So is all this your hypothesis or do you have some scientific papers to offer? Any references at all?
My understanding it that planton and algae make most of the oxygen.
Oxygen is quite explosive so how can oxygen be close to the sun?



Think about it for a moment. When you exhale gas from your lungs it still contains oxygen, do you have to worry about your breath catching fire in an open flame?

The theory that I proposes is not my hypothesis. There is information out there, you just have to research it and you will find it.
The information is just not part of mainstream education.
They teach instead that plants make oxygen to young naive minds who seldom if ever THINK.

Someone believing that plants make oxygen would equate to believing that Santa Clause really exists and makes presents at the North Pole.
Oxygen is waste product of plant respiration in light as Carbon dioxide and water are combined to make sugars and other carbohydrates like starch and cellulose (wood)
The normal formula you find in textbooks is 6 CO2 + 6 H20 ---> C6H1206 + 6O2 that is 6 molecules of carbon dioxide + 6 of water + sunlight go to 1 molecule of glucose and 6 molecules of oxygen. The glucose is then used to make things like starch and cellulose

By the way Santa Clause does exist! If not who ate the mince pies and brandy I left on Christmas Eve?

[Vitalux]

In an analogy......you can see how easy it was once for the church to educate common folk that the world was flat.
Now you can understand that even when someone tried to tell them, the world was not flat....few, if any would believe it..

That is until somebody proved it...


If only it was that easy.....most people that try and stand up and tell others the truth are either killed, ridiculed and shunned.
Most humans share one major flaw, they will fiercely defend their ignorance to maintain their inner peace.

[wolf_rt]

if it wasn't that easy. then surely everybody would still believe the earth is flat?

[Vitalux]

[QUOTE=gary-arsenault;394271][QUOTE=Arrowwind;394135]
Oxygen is quite explosive so how can oxygen be close to the sun?

Think about it this way, if oxygen is being created in the sun, what is it going to react with that would make it explode?

I think understand your thinking....but you have to sit and ask yourself. It is already a known theory that our oxygen is produced by our sun.
I did not just sit down and dream up this theory. I studied astronomy, chemistry, physics, and read quite a few books and knowledge was past to me from others that were more knowledgeable.
I simply had more time to consider and adopt this belief.

[Vitalux]

if it wasn't that easy. then surely everybody would still believe the earth is flat?

Well the problem back a few hundred years ago....was if someone tried to say the earth was not flat.....the church would torture them to death, along with killing all their children as well.
The world, like today, tended to not reward those that used to think outside the box.

[wolf_rt]

Well i don't think anybody here is going to torture you, or kill your children over an opinion...At least i would hope not.



Think about it this way, if oxygen is being created in the sun, what is it going to react with that would make it explode?


I know bugger all about chemistry... but from what you previously posted, i would have thought carbon and phosphorus would be good candidates?

[Vitalux]

Well i don't think anybody here is going to torture you, or kill your children over an opinion...At least i would hope not.



Think about it this way, if oxygen is being created in the sun, what is it going to react with that would make it explode?


I know bugger all about chemistry... but from what you previously posted, i would have thought carbon and phosphorus would be good candidates?

It is good that you are thinking about what I have proposed.

I am going to try and explain something about the sun.
Where does our sun begin and end if you were to measure how big it is in space?

Another way to put it, when you look at a candle, does the flame of the candle represent the candle?
Where does the candle begin and end?
.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Animation_candle_flame.gif

or do you also have to consider that all of the wax of the candle stick is part of the body.

Our sun, similar to the candle stick is a huge ball of gasses that stretch out thinner and thinner.


http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/580x386xlithium-star-580x386.jpg.pagespeed.ic.mkAIswS2Tf.jpg


If you were outside out solar system and were looking in, it would appear as if all the planets are inside the sun.
The gasses that the sun produces are concentrated around the planets and becomes their atmosphere.

Notice how difficult it is to find this information which I am talking about anywhere in google.

It is filtered. It is something they do not want most people to understand.

Understanding this simple process of our star ....would help humans understand that biological life exists everywhere near a star....including in the emptiness of space itself.

[Arrowwind]

Oxygen is an element of the periodic table. It is not made on earth, nor are any of the other elements. They all come from the stars as does every atom in our body... nothing new here..

So plants free up oxygen... think about it.. we often say plants make oxygen.. is is just a way of saying the same thing. Im not a scientist so I am not familiar with framing all this stuff correctly. Oxyen enters into and exits in many many chemical reations all the time, becoming available then bound again until another reaction occurs. Theres tons of it around all over the place in just about everything.

Oxyen is highly flamable. I dont see how it could exist around the sun,, but possibly could come from the sun to be spontaneously combusted.

So are you saying that the sun is perpetually supplying us with new supplies of oxygen?

[13th Warrior]

What is the mechanism that the Sun uses to supply oxygen to the planets?

Are O2 molecules released from the Sun and enter the Earths atmosphere?

Does the radiation emitted by the Sun react with the Earths atmosphere/or other medium that creates the O2?


So are you saying that the sun is perpetually supplying us with new supplies of oxygen?

I have this same question:

[13th Warrior]

Oxygen is an element of the periodic table. It is not made on earth, nor are any of the other elements. They all come from the stars as does every atom in our body... nothing new here..

So plants free up oxygen... think about it.. we often say plants make oxygen.. is is just a way of saying the same thing. Im not a scientist so I am not familiar with framing all this stuff correctly. Oxyen enters into and exits in many many chemical reations all the time, becoming available then bound again until another reaction occurs. Theres tons of it around all over the place in just about everything.

Oxyen is highly flamable. I dont see how it could exist around the sun,, but possibly could come from the sun to be spontaneously combusted.

So are you saying that the sun is perpetually supplying us with new supplies of oxygen?



Well i don't think anybody here is going to torture you, or kill your children over an opinion...At least i would hope not.



Think about it this way, if oxygen is being created in the sun, what is it going to react with that would make it explode?


I know bugger all about chemistry... but from what you previously posted, i would have thought carbon and phosphorus would be good candidates?

It is good that you are thinking about what I have proposed.

I am going to try and explain something about the sun.
Where does our sun begin and end if you were to measure how big it is in space?

Another way to put it, when you look at a candle, does the flame of the candle represent the candle?
Where does the candle begin and end?
.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Animation_candle_flame.gif

or do you also have to consider that all of the wax of the candle stick is part of the body.

Our sun, similar to the candle stick is a huge ball of gasses that stretch out thinner and thinner.


http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/580x386xlithium-star-580x386.jpg.pagespeed.ic.mkAIswS2Tf.jpg


If you were outside out solar system and were looking in, it would appear as if all the planets are inside the sun.
The gasses that the sun produces are concentrated around the planets and becomes their atmosphere.

Notice how difficult it is to find this information which I am talking about anywhere in google.

It is filtered. It is something they do not want most people to understand.

Understanding this simple process of our star ....would help humans understand that biological life exists everywhere near a star....including in the emptiness of space itself.


If this were true; then shouldn't we be able to fly airplanes and helicopters into outer space?

[Vitalux]

Oxyen is highly flamable. I dont see how it could exist around the sun,, but possibly could come from the sun to be spontaneously combusted.

[COLOR=darkorchid]So are you saying that the sun is perpetually supplying us with new supplies of oxygen?

Every element tends to react with one or more elements ( for the simplicity I will exclude gold Au).
Oxygen is not highly flammable, oxygen just simply is reactive with certain other elements such as carbon.
If I stand in a room filled with pure oxygen (O2) and nothing else is contained inside the room ( ie, no other gases) the oxygen gas is not going to react or burst into flame, no matter how much heat energy is added to it.
Oxygen has to chemically react with something else to produce flame or combustion.


Yes I am saying that our sun is perpetually supplying us with supplies of oxygen along with all the other gases we are breathing.
Our planet, like your head, is floating in the suns atmosphere.

The gasses that you are breathing come from the sun.
You just happen to be standing on a ball floating in the suns atmosphere.

[13th Warrior]

Oxygen is an element of the periodic table. It is not made on earth, nor are any of the other elements. They all come from the stars as does every atom in our body... nothing new here..

So plants free up oxygen... think about it.. we often say plants make oxygen.. is is just a way of saying the same thing. Im not a scientist so I am not familiar with framing all this stuff correctly. Oxyen enters into and exits in many many chemical reations all the time, becoming available then bound again until another reaction occurs. Theres tons of it around all over the place in just about everything.

Oxyen is highly flamable. I dont see how it could exist around the sun,, but possibly could come from the sun to be spontaneously combusted.

So are you saying that the sun is perpetually supplying us with new supplies of oxygen?





[COLOR=darkorchid]
Oxyen is highly flamable. I dont see how it could exist around the sun,, but possibly could come from the sun to be spontaneously combusted.

So are you saying that the sun is perpetually supplying us with new supplies of oxygen?

Every element tends to react with one or more elements ( for the simplicity I will exclude gold Au).
Oxygen is not highly flammable, oxygen just simply is reactive with certain other elements such as carbon.
If I stand in a room filled with pure oxygen (O2) and nothing else is contained inside the room ( ie, no other gases) the oxygen gas is not going to react or burst into flame, no matter how much heat energy is added to it.
Oxygen has to chemically react with something else to produce flame or combustion.


Yes I am saying that our sun is perpetually supplying us with supplies of oxygen along with all the other gases we are breathing.
Our planet, like your head, is floating in the suns atmosphere.

The gasses that you are breathing come from the sun.
You just happen to be standing on a ball floating in the suns atmosphere.


If this were true; wouldn't the O2 content of our atmosphere be increasing...or are we consuming O2 at a faster rate than the Sun can provide?

[Vitalux]

If this were true; then shouldn't we be able to fly airplanes and helicopters into outer space?

No


Think of it this way.
When you go one mile under the ocean you have enormous water pressure to deal with.
You can not fly a helicopter or airplane under water.
Nor can you fly a helicopter 5 miles high above earth or a plane 20 miles high above the surface of earth.

Our planet is contains enough mass that it produces a local region of gravity.
Relative to outer space, we have a higher atmospheric pressure.
There is gas molecules in space, however the density of molecules is much lower relative to the surface of our planet.


I am glad that you are asking questions.....hopefully this is starting to make sense.

[13th Warrior]

Oxygen is an element of the periodic table. It is not made on earth, nor are any of the other elements. They all come from the stars as does every atom in our body... nothing new here..

So plants free up oxygen... think about it.. we often say plants make oxygen.. is is just a way of saying the same thing. Im not a scientist so I am not familiar with framing all this stuff correctly. Oxyen enters into and exits in many many chemical reations all the time, becoming available then bound again until another reaction occurs. Theres tons of it around all over the place in just about everything.

Oxyen is highly flamable. I dont see how it could exist around the sun,, but possibly could come from the sun to be spontaneously combusted.

So are you saying that the sun is perpetually supplying us with new supplies of oxygen?





If this were true; then shouldn't we be able to fly airplanes and helicopters into outer space?

No


Think of it this way.
When you go one mile under the ocean you have enormous water pressure to deal with.
You can not fly a helicopter or airplane under water.
Nor can you fly a helicopter 5 miles high above earth or a plane 20 miles high above the surface of earth.

Our planet is contains enough mass that it produces a local region of gravity.
Relative to outer space, we have a higher atmospheric pressure.
There is gas molecules in space, however the density of molecules is much lower relative to the surface of our planet.


I am glad that you are asking questions.....hopefully this is starting to make sense.

So what you are saying is that Outer Space isn't a vacuum; just thinner atmosphere than on the Earth?

[Arrowwind]

So now Im thinking about the ozone layer... they say that ozone up there can have numerous species of ozone like molecules, like 06, 08, 012,etc but they are highly unstable ... dont know if this is true, I heard it somewhere..

so is the sun creating that ozone layer?

[christian]

This is some "there is always a bigger fish" semantics game, I find.

There is something bigger as the sun as well, and without this even bigger fish, we would have no oxygen - go figure...

[13th Warrior]

Oxygen is an element of the periodic table. It is not made on earth, nor are any of the other elements. They all come from the stars as does every atom in our body... nothing new here..

So plants free up oxygen... think about it.. we often say plants make oxygen.. is is just a way of saying the same thing. Im not a scientist so I am not familiar with framing all this stuff correctly. Oxyen enters into and exits in many many chemical reations all the time, becoming available then bound again until another reaction occurs. Theres tons of it around all over the place in just about everything.

Oxyen is highly flamable. I dont see how it could exist around the sun,, but possibly could come from the sun to be spontaneously combusted.

So are you saying that the sun is perpetually supplying us with new supplies of oxygen?


So now Im thinking about the ozone layer... they say that ozone up there can have numerous species of ozone like molecules, like 06, 08, 012,etc but they are highly unstable ... dont know if this is true, I heard it somewhere..

so is the sun creating that ozone layer?

O2 is oxygen O3 is ozone; ozone is unstable because it has an extra electron that it gives up freely. O8, O12 wouldn't be ozone and it would be stable.

The sun does create ozone by it's UV radiation...

[Vitalux]

If this were true; wouldn't the O2 content of our atmosphere be increasing...or are we consuming O2 at a faster rate than the Sun can provide?

I am simplifying the overall process here in this dialog.
But to answer your question directly.

Human activity has no appreciable effect on the oxygen or carbon content of our planet.

Here is an example.
If humans did not exist on the planet, if we could turn off every single human cause of carbon that has ever existed since the beginning of time.
The difference would amount to 0.0025% change in the carbon content of the atmosphere.

Putting it is its simple way. Nothing we do causes global weather changes, our weather, and environment constantly change as a result of conditions which prevail from outer space and the activity of our star as well as what region of space we happen to be drifting though.

In the past 2 million years we have had 20 ice ages.
Each ice age averages about one hundred thousand years ( 100, 000 years) and in-between the ice ages we have a warming period for about ten to fifteen thousand years ( 10, 000 - 15,000 years)
Human activity did not cause ice ages.
In fact, we are more likely to have an ice age than an extended period of global warming.

The masters who control the education and media brainwash humans into feeling guilty about the state of the planet.
They have done a great job of making us feel responsible for their destruction.


So now Im thinking about the ozone layer... they say that ozone up there can have numerous species of ozone like molecules, like 06, 08, 012,etc but they are highly unstable ... dont know if this is true, I heard it somewhere..

so is the sun creating that ozone layer?

Ozone is constantly being created by chemical interaction. I do not understand all the processes involved however I am aware that ozone is created as a result of the electrical activity in our earths atmosphere.
Every minute we have thousands of lighting bolts occurring in our upper atmosphere around the world. Other significant factors aiding in the chemical interaction of molecules would be various forms of solar radiation.

Even all that garbage they told us back in the 80's about people with aerosol cans distorting the ozone was over played and fear mongering.
However that is another story for another day.

[13th Warrior]

If this were true; wouldn't the O2 content of our atmosphere be increasing...or are we consuming O2 at a faster rate than the Sun can provide?

I am simplifying the overall process here in this dialog.
But to answer your question directly.

Human activity has no appreciable effect on the oxygen or carbon content of our planet.

Here is an example.
If humans did not exist on the planet, if we could turn off every single human cause of carbon that has ever existed since the beginning of time.
The difference would amount to 0.0025% change in the carbon content of the atmosphere.

Putting it is its simple way. Nothing we do causes global weather changes, our weather, and environment constantly change as a result of conditions which prevail from outer space and the activity of our star as well as what region of space we happen to be drifting though.

In the past 2 million years we have had 20 ice ages.
Each ice age averages about one hundred thousand years ( 100, 000 years) and in-between the ice ages we have a warming period for about ten to fifteen thousand years ( 10, 000 - 15,000 years)
Human activity did not cause ice ages.
In fact, we are more likely to have an ice age than an extended period of global warming.

The masters who control the education and media brainwash humans into feeling guilty about the state of the planet.
They have done a great job of making us feel responsible for their destruction.


So now Im thinking about the ozone layer... they say that ozone up there can have numerous species of ozone like molecules, like 06, 08, 012,etc but they are highly unstable ... dont know if this is true, I heard it somewhere..

so is the sun creating that ozone layer?

Ozone is constantly being created by chemical interaction. I do not understand all the processes involved however I am aware that ozone is created as a result of the electrical activity in our earths atmosphere.
Every minute we have thousands of lighting bolts occurring in our upper atmosphere around the world.

Even all that garbage they told us back in the 80's about people with aerosol cans distorting the ozone was over played and fear mongering.
However that is another story for another day.

Ozone created by lightning in the lower atmosphere is eventually going to revert back to O2 and will not contribute to the ozone layer.

[Arrowwind]

Can you answer my question about ozone? Is the son making that ozone layer, actually providing the oxygen to form it or not? When the oxygen comes where does it go? Just in the ambient air? ozone layer?

I do not buy the global warming scenario a la Al Gore.
I see it more like as explained in the movie 2012 An Awakening with Parick Geryle and David Icke... but I really dont know where the truth is absolutley. The earth has had many shifts over time, many realignments of its energy field and physical body...

[Arrowwind]

If this were true; wouldn't the O2 content of our atmosphere be increasing...or are we consuming O2 at a faster rate than the Sun can provide?

I am simplifying the overall process here in this dialog.
But to answer your question directly.

Human activity has no appreciable effect on the oxygen or carbon content of our planet.

Here is an example.
If humans did not exist on the planet, if we could turn off every single human cause of carbon that has ever existed since the beginning of time.
The difference would amount to 0.0025% change in the carbon content of the atmosphere.

Putting it is its simple way. Nothing we do causes global weather changes, our weather, and environment constantly change as a result of conditions which prevail from outer space and the activity of our star as well as what region of space we happen to be drifting though.

In the past 2 million years we have had 20 ice ages.
Each ice age averages about one hundred thousand years ( 100, 000 years) and in-between the ice ages we have a warming period for about ten to fifteen thousand years ( 10, 000 - 15,000 years)
Human activity did not cause ice ages.
In fact, we are more likely to have an ice age than an extended period of global warming.

The masters who control the education and media brainwash humans into feeling guilty about the state of the planet.
They have done a great job of making us feel responsible for their destruction.


So now Im thinking about the ozone layer... they say that ozone up there can have numerous species of ozone like molecules, like 06, 08, 012,etc but they are highly unstable ... dont know if this is true, I heard it somewhere..

so is the sun creating that ozone layer?

Ozone is constantly being created by chemical interaction. I do not understand all the processes involved however I am aware that ozone is created as a result of the electrical activity in our earths atmosphere.
Every minute we have thousands of lighting bolts occurring in our upper atmosphere around the world.

Even all that garbage they told us back in the 80's about people with aerosol cans distorting the ozone was over played and fear mongering.
However that is another story for another day.

Ozone created by lightning in the lower atmosphere is eventually going to revert back to O2 and will not contribute to the ozone layer.

Well I have to press for details from Gary as he says we are being lied to... so perhaps we are being lied to about the ozone layer too? It was my understanding the the ozone layer can fluctuate in size with the cosmic rays coming off of the sun so would that not indicatie that something else might be going on?

[13th Warrior]

If this were true; wouldn't the O2 content of our atmosphere be increasing...or are we consuming O2 at a faster rate than the Sun can provide?

I am simplifying the overall process here in this dialog.
But to answer your question directly.

Human activity has no appreciable effect on the oxygen or carbon content of our planet.

Here is an example.
If humans did not exist on the planet, if we could turn off every single human cause of carbon that has ever existed since the beginning of time.
The difference would amount to 0.0025% change in the carbon content of the atmosphere.

Putting it is its simple way. Nothing we do causes global weather changes, our weather, and environment constantly change as a result of conditions which prevail from outer space and the activity of our star as well as what region of space we happen to be drifting though.

In the past 2 million years we have had 20 ice ages.
Each ice age averages about one hundred thousand years ( 100, 000 years) and in-between the ice ages we have a warming period for about ten to fifteen thousand years ( 10, 000 - 15,000 years)
Human activity did not cause ice ages.
In fact, we are more likely to have an ice age than an extended period of global warming.

The masters who control the education and media brainwash humans into feeling guilty about the state of the planet.
They have done a great job of making us feel responsible for their destruction.


So now Im thinking about the ozone layer... they say that ozone up there can have numerous species of ozone like molecules, like 06, 08, 012,etc but they are highly unstable ... dont know if this is true, I heard it somewhere..

so is the sun creating that ozone layer?

Ozone is constantly being created by chemical interaction. I do not understand all the processes involved however I am aware that ozone is created as a result of the electrical activity in our earths atmosphere.
Every minute we have thousands of lighting bolts occurring in our upper atmosphere around the world.

Even all that garbage they told us back in the 80's about people with aerosol cans distorting the ozone was over played and fear mongering.
However that is another story for another day.

Ozone created by lightning in the lower atmosphere is eventually going to revert back to O2 and will not contribute to the ozone layer.

Well I have to press for details from Gary as he says we are being lied to... so perhaps we are being lied to about the ozone layer too? It was my understanding the the ozone layer can fluctuate in size with the cosmic rays coming off of the sun so would that not indicatie that something else might be going on?

I don't know but, i am careful about replacing one lie with another...

[Vitalux]

Ozone created by lightning in the lower atmosphere is eventually going to revert back to O2 and will not contribute to the ozone layer.

Perhaps you are correct.
It has been many years since I have studied and understood the chemical interactions of Ozone in our planets atmosphere.
I am no longer failure enough with my understanding to make in depth statements.
However, I am of the understanding that simple human cultural activity has no significance into its processes.

[13th Warrior]

Ozone created by lightning in the lower atmosphere is eventually going to revert back to O2 and will not contribute to the ozone layer.

Perhaps you are correct.
It has been many years since I have studied and understood the chemical interactions of Ozone in our planets atmosphere.
I am no longer failure enough with my understanding to make in depth statements.
However, I am of the understanding that simple human cultural activity has no significance into its processes.

Fair enough! Let's leave the ozone alone for a while...

Politics has made an issue of CO2 gas...

But, what about the particulate matter ejected into the atmosphere and the affects that might posses?

[Vitalux]

Well I have to press for details from Gary as he says we are being lied to... so perhaps we are being lied to about the ozone layer too? It was my understanding the the ozone layer can fluctuate in size with the cosmic rays coming off of the sun so would that not indicatie that something else might be going on?

It is difficult to understand what the truth is.

Consider the analogy of a child having gone to school and being taught by a teacher whom is a pathological liar.

http://humanopensante.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/sinceridad.jpg?w=439&h=339

For many years our naive minds are taught false things while being sparely mixed with some statements of facts.
When finally the child, now grown, realized that he was lied to, how does he divide the truth from the fiction?


This is what has happened to us.

[Arrowwind]

[I don't know but, i am careful about replacing one lie with another...

asking a question is not replacing one lie with another. Lets see what Gary says. What is says is kinda wild but we are all here spending time listening to him... he's kinda slow spitting out a story... like pullin teeth. Since ozone is the largest free standing supply of oxyen held in reserve for easy access I want to know.

[Vitalux]

Fair enough! Let's leave the ozone alone for a while...

Politics has made an issue of CO2 gas...

But, what about the particulate matter ejected into the atmosphere and the affects that might posses?

Millions of tons of cosmic dust falls on our planet every year from space.
Cosmic space contains a lot of dust.
Our planet was formed from that particulate matter precipitating down from outer space.
That process has never stopped.
Our planet is actually gaining mass every second.

It is safe to make this general statement that in about another 4 billion years ( if this planet still exists) it will probably be twice it's volume or twice it's mass because of the accumulation of particulate matter precipitating down from outer space.

That is one of the simple arguments why it would have been absurd that the men who claimed to have walked on the moon only said there was 1/4 inch of dust on the surface.

Mother earth has all the energy to blow around particulate matter, from her winds, volcanoes, forest fires and other past events where the world has gone into cosmic upheaval.

Always bear in mind, when we are taught about history, we are not taught about the long ago history.
There is more than enough evidence to suggest that our planet has a cyclic history of flipping over upside down and having most of the life wiped out.
It happen quite often geologically.
We just are not made easily aware about it.

Check out any of the writing of immanuel velikovsky
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4999668/Worlds_in_Collision_-_Immanuel_Velikovsky

[13th Warrior]

Fair enough! Let's leave the ozone alone for a while...

Politics has made an issue of CO2 gas...

But, what about the particulate matter ejected into the atmosphere and the affects that might posses?

Millions of tons of cosmic dust falls on our planet every year from space.
Cosmic space contains a lot of dust.
Our planet was formed from that particulate matter precipitating down from outer space.
That process has never stopped.
Our planet is actually gaining mass every second.

It is safe to make this general statement that in about another 4 billion years ( if this planet still exists) it will probably be twice it's volume or twice it's mass because of the accumulation of particulate matter precipitating down from outer space.

That is one of the simple arguments why it would have been absurd that the men who claimed to have walked on the moon only said there was 1/4 inch of dust on the surface.

Mother earth has all the energy to blow around particulate matter, from her winds, volcanoes, forest fires and other past events where the world has gone into cosmic upheaval.

Always bear in mind, when we are taught about history, we are not taught about the long ago history.
There is more than enough evidence to suggest that our planet has a cyclic history of flipping over upside down and having most of the life wiped out.
It happen quite often geologically.
We just are not made easily aware about it.

Check out any of the writing of immanuel velikovsky
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4999668/Worlds_in_Collision_-_Immanuel_Velikovsky

I have been well aware of the magnet pole reversal for many years now; long before i became involved in the "alternative" community; the same goes for global warming.

It's been the alternative sources that have promoted a doomsday scenario concerning magnetic pole reversal:

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1112432346/2012-magnetic-pole-reversal-happens-all-the-geologic-time/

Has sulfur dioxide been raining down from the cosmos on us?

[Vitalux]

double post :focus:

[Vitalux]

[I don't know but, i am careful about replacing one lie with another...

asking a question is not replacing one lie with another. Lets see what Gary says. What is says is kinda wild but we are all here spending time listening to him... he's kinda slow spitting out a story... like pullin teeth. Since ozone is the largest free standing supply of oxyen held in reserve for easy access I want to know.




From my understanding. At the surface of our planet our atmosphere contains O2.
O3 is very reactive and tends to not be very good to breath.
O3 is contained in the stratosphere.
From trying to recall years ago I was taught that it is abundant in that region due to the prevanent natural factors that exists for allowing ozone (tri-oxygen) to from from 02 (di-oxygen) .

If you were to jump in a space ship and fly a couple of hundred thousand miles into space and take an air sample, your sample would more or less and more than likely contain:
http://scentofpine.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/earth_atmos_comp.jpg

by volume.



Has sulfur dioxide been raining down from the cosmos on us?

All I can tell you, is our planet is simply like a piece of driftwood floating in an ocean of debris. We are star dust. That is my best guess from what I understand.


Here is another thought as well.

A couple of years ago I sat in on a think tank with a few other friends that had a background in cosmology.

One of the serious theories that we tossed around was the likeliness that the Earths magnetic field is artificially produced. In that an extra terrestrial civilization terraformed this planet by making a device to produce a force field around the planet to block solar radiation and wind.

Remember the theory of the spinning molten iron core causing our earths magnetosphere is just a theory, or best guess. Bear in mind, that all theories of how the universe works does not involve input from advanced beings.

[norman]

All this put's a different spin on what they might be really experimenting with up there in the ISS.

[Vitalux]

All this put's a different spin on what they might be really experimenting with up there in the ISS.

Norman....to put another spin on it.

When Pandora's box was slammed shut, it was not hope that was left in the box, it was Truth.

[meat suit]

interesting theory,
this would mean that each of our solar systems planets has collected its atmosphere from the same source, ie. the suns atmosphere.
I cant remember the details, but arent our neighbour planets supposed to have wildly differrent atmospheres in composition to our own?

[learninglight]

Hi gary-arsenault

Wow!!! I just love what you putting out here thankyou so much

I have always, as far back as i can remember, questioned how the person 'educating' me knows that what they are 'educating', is in fact, truth; because the information they are passing on is information handed to them in the firsrt place, so the possibilities of the information changing by being handed down like this are very high
You could say this could apply to your information also, but there is good logic to what you are saying and i'm looking forward to hearing more

Respect to you for starting this thread

much love

[Vitalux]

interesting theory,
this would mean that each of our solar systems planets has collected its atmosphere from the same source, ie. the suns atmosphere.
I cant remember the details, but arent our neighbour planets supposed to have wildly differrent atmospheres in composition to our own?

Think of the process similar to fractional distillation. The further away from the source of heat, you will get a variation in the type of gas being obtained.
Every planet including Mercury has an atmosphere containing gasses. If they did not then there would be a serious problem with physics.


To answer more, my statements are definitely going to come off half cocked and crazy.
For I am up against a rival called NASA would is the KING OF Disinformation.
Consider for a moment that NASA job is not to inform, but to misinform.
Here we have an agency that is controlled by the military (regardless of popular belief) and there is no other higher agency that obtains our space science.

If you think about that for a while you will figure it out.
ANything NASA says, we automatically take as the gospel truth.
Including the MAN on the MOOn.


NASA has always maintained that there is no life in our solar system.
NASA has stated that there is no life on Mars

Cripes even someone with half a brain understands that if Mars once had oceans of water on the surface, there is water underground.
That means below the ground life must exists.

I have no doubt what so ever that Venus is an earth class planet.
NASA just told us that bullcrap about it being too hot, and inhospitable for life.

Life is all around us on the other planets. If you take some time to research you will find the evidence too.

Check out such Books as the Ring Makers of Saturn.

[Vitalux]

Hi gary-arsenault

Wow!!! I just love what you putting out here thankyou so much

I have always, as far back as i can remember, questioned how the person 'educating' me knows that what they are 'educating', is in fact, truth; because the information they are passing on is information handed to them in the firsrt place, so the possibilities of the information changing by being handed down like this are very high
You could say this could apply to your information also, but there is good logic to what you are saying and i'm looking forward to hearing more

Respect to you for starting this thread

much love


Thank you

Question everything....believe nothing until at least you are convinced it makes logical sense.

[Arrowwind]

[I don't know but, i am careful about replacing one lie with another...

asking a question is not replacing one lie with another. Lets see what Gary says. What is says is kinda wild but we are all here spending time listening to him... he's kinda slow spitting out a story... like pullin teeth. Since ozone is the largest free standing supply of oxyen held in reserve for easy access I want to know.




From my understanding. At the surface of our planet our atmosphere contains O2.
O3 is very reactive and tends to not be very good to breath.
O3 is contained in the stratosphere.
From trying to recall years ago I was taught that it is abundant in that region due to the prevanent natural factors that exists for allowing ozone (tri-oxygen) to from from 02 (di-oxygen) .

If you were to jump in a space ship and fly a couple of hundred thousand miles into space and take an air sample, your sample would more or less and more than likely contain:
http://scentofpine.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/earth_atmos_comp.jpg

by volume.



Has sulfur dioxide been raining down from the cosmos on us?

All I can tell you, is our planet is simply like a piece of driftwood floating in an ocean of debris. We are star dust. That is my best guess from what I understand.


Here is another thought as well.

A couple of years ago I sat in on a think tank with a few other friends that had a background in cosmology.

One of the serious theories that we tossed around was the likeliness that the Earths magnetic field is artificially produced. In that an extra terrestrial civilization terraformed this planet by making a device to produce a force field around the planet to block solar radiation and wind.

Remember the theory of the spinning molten iron core causing our earths magnetosphere is just a theory, or best guess. Bear in mind, that all theories of how the universe works does not involve input from advanced beings.

What? Oxygen in the atmosphere at a couple of hundred thousand miles from the earth?? Why do astronauts have to take oxygen tanks then?

Ozone is not dangerous to breath.. this is one of the lies out there.. and the truth is still in the box. This is kind of my speciality but it deserves another thread. I know people who have cured their lung cancer from breathing ozone... among other amazing incidents with ozone. They don't want you to know because ozone can cure lots of different types of cancer and fully detox the body. I have associations that work in high ozone concentration environments and they know the truth.

[joedjemal]

I'm sorry to say that the premise of this thread is misinformed. Yes, all elements heavier than hydrogen are formed in stars during the process of fusion but to assume that oxygen in the form that we breathe (O²) is somehow exhaled by the sun is inaccurate to say the least. The fusion processes in our sun are nowhere near producing oxygen yet, I'm not even sure if our sun is massive enough to get to that point I'd have to look it up. O² is a highly reactive substance. It's usually locked up in the lowest energy state it can achieve. It takes the process of photosynthesis to release it into a form we can breathe. It's preposterous to assume that we could exist without the rest of life on Earth.

You can't dismiss the entirety of science unless you have something that is more logically consistent. The universe follows rules, science is simply the process of working out what those rules are. If you intend to challenge what has been discovered your model has to fit the observed facts better than the existing one does. You can't dismiss thousands of years of observation and tested models simply by feeling it is so. Yes it's incomplete. It's not supposed to be complete, it's simply a model of what we understand to date.

I read physics at university although I didn't complete my degree because of health problems but i also live in a highly magical world. I see no conflict between science and the reality of that magic, we simply don't have all the answers yet.

1+1 will always equal 2 and never 2.5 or 3 simply because that is the way things are.

[olddragon]

My opinion - What A Load Of Crap!!!!!

[learninglight]

My opinion - What A Load Of Crap!!!!!

Hi olddragon

You obviously took the time to read through this thread to come to the conclusion its 'a load of crap' I for one would love to hear why you say this and i'm sure others would too

much love

[13th Warrior]

Think of the process similar to fractional distillation. The further away from the source of heat, you will get a variation in the type of gas being obtained.

Generally the closer you get to the source, the higher the concentration of matter gets...

Why is the O2 concentration greater at sea level than on top of K2 if in fact the Earths O2 is coming from the Sun?

I could sign on to the belief that the Earth is getting some O2 from the Sun but, not enough to support life here as we know it. My above example should be conclusive enough evidence that the Earth is producing far more O2 it's self then it's receiving from the Sun...

[Flash]

I am sorry Garry to say this, but please read a bit of science, it will make you great good

I cannot believe that a thread that started with something so, well, so obviously wrong (just get plants in your bedroom and measure the oxygen level at the end of the day for Gosh sake) goes on for 4 pages when there is so many excellent threads around.

This is not even worth discussing imho

[crested-duck]

I prefer to keep an open mind,and do understand both sides of this argument. The sentence that is ringing in my head is: people violently protect their ignorance, to hold on to their false reality. This thread has shown to me who is open minded as well as closed minded .

[Vitalux]

I'm sorry to say that the premise of this thread is misinformed. Yes, all elements heavier than hydrogen are formed in stars during the process of fusion but to assume that oxygen in the form that we breathe (O²) is somehow exhaled by the sun is inaccurate to say the least. The fusion processes in our sun are nowhere near producing oxygen yet, I'm not even sure if our sun is massive enough to get to that point I'd have to look it up. O² is a highly reactive substance. It's usually locked up in the lowest energy state it can achieve. It takes the process of photosynthesis to release it into a form we can breathe. It's preposterous to assume that we could exist without the rest of life on Earth.

You can't dismiss the entirety of science unless you have something that is more logically consistent. The universe follows rules, science is simply the process of working out what those rules are. If you intend to challenge what has been discovered your model has to fit the observed facts better than the existing one does. You can't dismiss thousands of years of observation and tested models simply by feeling it is so. Yes it's incomplete. It's not supposed to be complete, it's simply a model of what we understand to date.

I read physics at university although I didn't complete my degree because of health problems but i also live in a highly magical world. I see no conflict between science and the reality of that magic, we simply don't have all the answers yet.

1+1 will always equal 2 and never 2.5 or 3 simply because that is the way things are.

I was taught the same thing in school and for most of my life followed this logic. So I can see where you are coming from.
The difference is that I was introduced and taught something that was not discussed in University.

15 years ago, if I would have saw someone in a forum making statements such as I made in this forum, I would have dismissed them as a nut.

Remember and bear in mind, any logic that you suggest .....you perhaps are just parroting what you have been told by your school science.

From information that I have acquired, there is an atmosphere on the moon accordingly by John Lear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOeTycHrUvA

[Vitalux]

I am sorry Garry to say this, but please read a bit of science, it will make you great good

I cannot believe that a thread that started with something so, well, so obviously wrong (just get plants in your bedroom and measure the oxygen level at the end of the day for Gosh sake) goes on for 4 pages when there is so many excellent threads around.

This is not even worth discussing imho

I use to think like you too.
Bear in mind that the guy you are having a conversation has an educational background in the sciences.

Back in 1984 I spent 3 years in college taking mechanical engineering technology. After that I went onto University in Fredericton and continued courses there to work towards my bachelor of Science. From there I started a double major in chemical engineering with an interest in Environmental science.
During those years as part of my electives I studied astronomy and cosmology as well.

All I am trying to demonstrate is that I am not coming off just half cocked and making up wild statements.

I have little doubt that the atmosphere we breath originates from the gases from our sun.
Yes there is interaction with biological factors such as oceans, plants and microorganisms, but the main source comes to us directly from space.

Our weather is controlled mainly by our SUn
and we breath because of our Sun.

If you could in theory ........tow our planet .....out of our solar system .....far....far....away from the sun.

We would lose our atmosphere.
Just like how when you walk away from a campfire, you no long have its smoke, and heat.

[RedeZra]

Why this is not taught in mainstream science I have no clue.

I was taking environmental science and hit was that professors position that the science we were being taught was nonsense.

He also was the first advocate that I had encountered that said NASA hoaxed the whole moon landing.


again Gary you bring juicy stuff and when i copy paste this little tidbit from NASA which has made it to the Wiki about Oxygen


"Elemental O2 only began to accumulate in the atmosphere after the evolutionary appearance of these organisms, roughly 2.5 billion years ago."

then you will know it's just another a lie



it's painstaking obvious that the establishment is into massive lies but why ?


why bother sell us lies like breath is dependent on plants producing oxygen ?

why why why


i want an answer

[RedeZra]

it's painstaking obvious that the establishment is into massive lies but why ?


why bother sell us lies like breath is dependent on plants producing oxygen ?

why why why


i want an answer

ok red you asked for it

but the answer will retract you into a shell of educated prejudice

shoot i just want the truth


the truth friend is that they are selling you a view of the world and yourself which will hopefully trick you into Hell

yeah really ?

think red who could be behind such massive web of intricate lies if not the father of lies


but why would people tolerate lies fed to the public

bribes association blackmail cohercion departmentalisation assassination


it's a tuff world red but you got the Bible for your world view

i can't believe this Big scheme scam is just about luring souls to Hell ? i'm afraid so red

[13th Warrior]

it's painstaking obvious that the establishment is into massive lies but why ?


why bother sell us lies like breath is dependent on plants producing oxygen ?

why why why


i want an answer

ok red you asked for it

but the answer will retract you into a shell of educated prejudice

shoot i just want the truth


the truth friend is that they are selling you a view of the world and yourself which will hopefully trick you into Hell

yeah really ?

think red who could be behind such massive web of intricate lies if not the father of lies


but why would people tolerate lies fed to the public

bribes association blackmail cohercion departmentalisation assassination


it's a tuff world red but you got the Bible for your world view

i can't believe this Big scheme scam is just about luring souls to Hell ? i'm afraid so red

v0jM-49Y7FY

[RedeZra]

did he just come out and insult me for dialectic typing ? yes red forgive him

i guess he doesn't know dialectics

[13th Warrior]

12451


did he just come out and insult me for dialectic typing ? yes red forgive him

i guess he doesn't know dialectics

I'm sorry; was that insulting?

[RedeZra]

12451


did he just come out and insult me for dialectic typing ? yes red forgive him

i guess he doesn't know dialectics

I'm sorry; was that insulting?

no that was funny ; )


yes my God was crushed and crucified

but where do you think He went after that ?

and guess what my God is on His way back again


not as a meek Lamb of God this time but as a fierce Lion of God

look up and meet your Maker

[13th Warrior]

12451


did he just come out and insult me for dialectic typing ? yes red forgive him

i guess he doesn't know dialectics

I'm sorry; was that insulting?

no that was funny ; )


yes my God was crushed and crucified

but where do you think He went after that ?

and guess what my God is on His way back again


not as a meek Lamb of God this time but as a fierce Lion of God

look up and meet your Maker

Great! I am encouraged that you found it funny.

Peace!

zwo3UDOWBOY

Z-4WJRwPaUo

[Hughe]

http://stars.astro.illinois.edu/sow/star_intro.html

Hydrogen fusion: carbon cycle

Higher mass stars (with masses greater than about 1.5 times that of the Sun) fuse hydrogen into helium via the "carbon cycle," which works only under high-temperature conditions, but is then more efficient than the proton-proton chain. It begins when a normal carbon atom (C-12, with 6 protons and 6 neutrons) picks up a proton to make radioactive nitrogen-13, one of whose protons ejects a positron (positive electron) to make stable carbon-13 (with the additional ejection of a neutrino). Carbon- 13 plus a proton makes normal nitrogen-14, while an additional proton collision makes oxygen-15, which (like N-13) decays into nitrogen-15. The N-15 collects another proton, and then falls apart into the original carbon-12 and a helium nucleus. Each event produces some energy either itself or through the collisions of positrons and electrons.


Protons are invincible?

[Kimberley]

*****************

Interesting observation... And FYI Andrew D. Basiago was jumped to Mars and he says that he could breath there fine with out any aids.

http://www.projectmars.net/


Andrew D. Basiago is a lawyer in private practice in Washington State, a writer, and a 21st century visionary.

He holds five academic degrees, including a BA in History from UCLA and a Master of Philosophy from the University of Cambridge.

Andy is an emerging figure in the Truth Movement, who is leading a campaign to lobby the United States government to disclose such controversial truths as the fact that Mars harbors life and that the United States has achieved “quantum access” to past and future events.

He has been identified as the first of two major planetary whistle blowers predicted by ALTA, the Web Bot project that analyzes the content of the World Wide Web to discern future trends.

Andy’s writings place him at the forefront of contemporary Mars research. His paper The Discovery of Life on Mars, published in 2008, was the first work to prove that Mars is an inhabited planet. After publishing his landmark paper, Andy founded the Mars Anomaly Research Society.

Andy is also one of America’s time travel pioneers. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, he was a child participant in the secret US time-space program, Project Pegasus.

He was the first American child to teleport and took part in probes to past and future events utilizing different forms of time travel then being researched and developed by DARPA.