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DreamsInDigital
3rd January 2012, 16:54
I just wanted to share this link. www.2012hoax.org. It's one of the most extensively researched and heavily supported with Real Facts sites out there. If you really want the truth to this matter. And, affirmation that the world just isn't going to end check out the site. Indisputable hard facts and evidence. This is the most extensive site that covers everything from Planet X, The Galactic Plane, The Mayan Calender etc to how to talk to your kids and assure them the world is not going to end this year.

I'm not saying things aren't going to change, and that we aren't going to have/experience an Upliftment that some refer to as Ascension. Or that we aren't shifting into 4D/5D here over the next year or so. I just think it's important to point out the reality and truth of all those other claims that are being made in trying to scare people into this fear mindset. Because that's the thing that I care about most. The Absolute Truth. Plus I think this site is very valuable in giving parents the tools and techniques to talk to their kids. And us Adults on how to slap some reality into our friends and family members. If we stop focusing on this Doomsday/Apocalypse then it will take the energy away from it, and as we all know, where Focus Goes, Energy Follows. Thought Directs Matter. So lets take our focus and thoughts away from "end of the world" fallacies and focus on what we're going to do with the rest of our very long lives to come. And, our beautiful futures that lay before us.


Don't be Scammed!

There are some things you need to know about the rumors of the "end of the world" or "Doomsday" in 2012.

The "2012 doomsday" is a hoax, a fraud, and an absolute con job. It is a cruel and disgusting lie being promoted by scam artists after money; First they scare people to death that something terrible is going to happen, then publish books and videos on "how to survive the apocalypse". Get the scam?! You're not going to fall for something like that… right?

The problem is that some people will fall for the scam. Some people will believe it. Some people will waste their money buying fake information on "how to survive". Some people will buy worthless survival kits, and some will even buy spaces in shelters that are not going to be built - ever!.

Some people will die because of these rumours, and we are trying our best to stop them


If you think we are being overly dramatic, then consider this example. In September, 2008, a young woman in India became distraught and depressed after watching well made but over-hyped reports about the Large Hadron Collider. She believed these shows when they said that the LHC would cause a 'miniature big bang' or a create a black hole, and destroy the world. She drank insecticide. She was 16.

Quote From Anthropologist/Archaeologist and Research Journalist. Joseph Robert Jochmans.

Fact is, the deeper one looks for confirmation of the 2012 doomsday date, the more it vanishes into a cloud of suppositions, inaccuracies, half-truths and hearsay.

From JRJ's article:

Today’s growing acceptance that the year 2012 will see the end of the world is fueled by the general uncertainty about the direction that modern global events are taking, as well as a dramatic upsurge in religious beliefs in an impending apocalypse. A recent national poll found that 59 percent of all Americans are firmly convinced that the final days for humanity will occur during their lifetimes. Such a mindset is fertile ground for the 2012 doomsday phenomenon that is now constantly bombarding us from everywhere—in group symposiums, lectures, workshops, magazine and newspaper articles, best-selling books, television specials, documentaries, movies, in the media news and across the Internet.

What are we to make of all this? Here are a few sobering facts about 2012 by which we can get a better idea about its many implications for the future:

FACT ONE — The much publicized apocalyptic date of December 21, 2012— claimed by many researchers and authors to be the last day for the world designated in the ancient Mayan calendar system—appears absolutely nowhere in all of ancient classical Mayan literature.

Not many people are aware that this date was never recorded among all the glyph inscriptions found in every Mayan temple built throughout Guatemala and the Yucatan between five hundred and four thousand years ago.

In addition, none of the dozens of erected commemorative stelae or standing stones—which have numerous calendar dates carved into them preserving historical events at most key Mayan sites—include any future time references to 2012 as pinpointing the end of the world.

What is more, conspicuously absent from the four Mayan inscribed codices that managed to escape being burned by sixteenth century Spanish missionaries—known as the Dresden Codex, the Madrid Codex, the Paris Codex and the Grolier Codex—are there any written passages predicting what will happen in 2012.

And in the two traditional Mayan sacred texts—the Popul Vuh or Book of Creation for the Quiche Mayas, and the Oracles of Chilam Balaam of Chumayel and Tizimin—do we find any mention whatsoever of December 21, 2012 specifically marking the end of the present age.

One claim made is that there exists a single very obscure inscription found on Monument 6 at the minor Mayan site of Turtuguero in the Mexican state of Tabasco that supposedly predicts events to take place in 2012. The major difficulties with this text is that its minIscule size makes it nearly impossible to decipher, and that it was also heavily damaged.

A strict interpretation reads: “Thirteen Pik finished ( ) Four Ahaw, third of Kankin ( ) will occur ( ) the descent ( ) the Nine Support ( ) God ( ) to the ( ).”

The time-cycle term “Pik” has been interpreted to be the same as a Baktun—see FACT TWO below. But the truth is, more than likely Pik instead is a syncope for an even longer cycle of time called a Pictun, equal to twenty Baktuns or equivalent to 7,885 years. Thirteen of these means the prophesied time-length extends into the future over 100,000 years, far beyond 2012.

“Four Ahaw third of Kankin” derives from a Short Count calendar, also found in the Oracles of Chilam Balaam, that refers to a past cycle of 256 years of daily predictions that were completed in the eighteenth century. Modern attempts have been made to somehow apply the Oracles to the end-times of 2012. But an examination of their post-Conquest origins demonstrates that the Oracles’ predictions were written specifically for the Mayan people suffering under Spanish rule, and not for any later generations.

What we are left with in the rest of the Turtuguero text as to an actual prophesied event is nothing more than a series of unrevealing and disjointed word fragments.

Just how, exactly, this discovery is supposed to relate to 2012 is anyone’s guess. Besides, if as it is now being claimed that 2012 is to be the traumatic harbinger of earth-shattering events, then why would it have been prophesied by the Mayas with only a single barely readable inscription?

What we do know for certain is that the Mayan calendar and all its historical variations did indeed once exist, and that it was utilized extensively by ancient Mesoamerican priests and chroniclers during the heyday of their many cultural expressions—including those of the Olmecs, Mayas, Teotihuacanos, Itzas, Toltecs, Mixtecs, Zapotecs and Aztecs.

This calendar and its many forms was primarily cyclic in nature, composed of several repeating rounds, each one of specific numbers of days, that were continuously beginning and ending as the different cycles intermeshed with one another on a daily basis.

Taken as a cohesive whole, the calendar’s central theme was one of continuity, whether it pertained to the annual cycle of religious celebrations, the planting and harvesting of crops, the births and deaths of passing generations, or the ongoing succession of local rulers and city state governments.

To make the claim that this calendar is going to suddenly and dramatically end all at once violates the basic tenets of the Mayan concepts of life and time.

Instead, the present-day promotion of the 2012 doomsday date constitutes an unrealistic projection of our modern fatalistic interpretation of history onto an ancient mindset that once had a far better attitude about themselves and the continuous fulfillment of their own destinies. We are the ones who are anticipating some form of self-appointed apocalyptic termination, not the Mayas.

Continues here......
http://www.2012hoax.org/joseph-robert-jochmans

Earth Angel
3rd January 2012, 16:57
the fact that we even have a forum called 2012 and beyond says plenty about the fear associated with this year

Rocky_Shorz
3rd January 2012, 17:09
fiction and excitement sells...

Mayans say nothing to be worried about, but they didn't make the Calendar and just like us made up hypothesis on what it means...

We haven't heard from the creators of the Calendar of what it means, the Tablets of info translated through guesses...

the darkness will end on December 21, 2012 because that is the last day of Bankers ownership of the world, 100 years since America sold their souls and dragged the rest of the world in to join us...

imagine no Bankers ruling us, starving Children and throwing hard working people out of their homes...

That is enlightenment...

That is true freedom...

That is scary...

Bankers are terrified, it might as well be a Comet slamming into their world, because it will change everything...

Bring it on...

BestLion
3rd January 2012, 17:13
I read all the debunk stuff also. But a few things i find fascinating, mainly the solar system lining up in accord with the cosmos.
Is it the end of the world? i don't know, but it does seem about once every 15,000-55,000 years a catastrophic event happens to the world. From my study of ancient civilizations i am convinced we are the 4th civilization..that from around 180,000 yrs ago man just 'showed up' and then we had various catastrophes..of Thule 35,000 BC and Atlantis 10,100 BC..
Earth is a living entity... and current man has taken but not given back to earth...in due time earth will 'cleanses herself of this. She seems to do this every so many 1,000 years.
One thing I DON'T buy into is this nonsenses of getting to a higher spiritual plane! Thats rubbish! man has been devolving spiritually for 6,000 years. This will not happen, so don't count on it..man is greedy, material, and has been polluting destroying, setting off nucs, contaminating waters, destroying nature,only taking from the earth and gives back to the earth contamination! Mother nature may well soon come for her payment!
Song-In the year 2525- One thing I like about the song..man has taken and put nothing back in!
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DNA
14th January 2012, 09:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j-rxe9Ayb8c

peace
22nd March 2012, 14:11
what about leap year? that ever taken into consideration? (seasons and astronomical events do not repeat in a whole number of days, a calendar that had the same number of days in each year would, over time, drift with respect to the event it was supposed to track).